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November 14, 2025 37 mins

In a new miniseries all about the weird and/or esoteric we pull the thread back to The Law of One, a 1980s series of channeling sessions where researcher Don Elkins and collaborator Jim McCarty recorded Carla Ruckert in trance, speaking as an entity called Ra. From “intelligent infinity” to densities of consciousness and a sweeping claim that all is one, the material wrapped metaphysics in sci‑fi gloss and birthed phrases that still ripple through New Age culture, wellness spaces, and social media.

We unpack how that language works: grand, elastic, and impossible to falsify. Ambiguity becomes power, letting seekers project their needs onto a system that can’t be disproved and seldom has to be precise. That’s a feature, not a bug—and it explains why “love and light” turned into a template anyone can remix into starseeds, vibrations, and cosmic downloads. Along the way, we examine the pattern that keeps repeating: disillusionment with institutions, the rise of alternative spiritual paths, and the backlash that follows. When meaning feels scarce, a generous cosmology feels like relief.<br><br>But we also draw a line. The ancient aliens pipeline often bundled with this rhetoric can erase the achievements of ancient, non‑Western cultures by crediting outsiders for pyramids, astronomy, and engineering. We argue for awe without erasure—honoring human ingenuity while keeping a clear eye on how vague metaphysics enables grift and cultish control. Curiosity, compassion, and skepticism can coexist. If all is one, accountability belongs in the circle too.

Stick around for a tease of what this rabbit hole led us to next, including Sunbow True Brother and other wild side paths. If this exploration challenged or delighted you, tap follow, share it with a friend, and drop a review on Apple Podcasts—your words help more curious minds find the show.

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SPEAKER_03 (00:03):
The future as you measure in time space the
communications which we offerthrough this instrument.
We communicate now.

SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Gentlemen, let's broaden our minds.

SPEAKER_03 (00:25):
Are they in the proper approach pattern for
today?

SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Negative.
Oh the weapon.
Charge the lightning field.

SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
Welcome back to Dispatch Ajax.
I'm Skip.
I am doing no.
No, I'm Jay.
How about that?
You are.
You are.
Yeah.
Oh no.
I I kind of wanted to saysomething about how you're
slowly getting dressed as we dothis, but uh nobody needs to
know any of that.
Does it sound different once Iput on clothes?
Is it sultry?
Oh god, no.
No, it's the opposite of that.

(01:10):
Isn't this another ASMR episode?
Oh god.
We need all of them.
So today is gonna be I thinkthis is gonna be a fun rabbit
hole episode.
Remember our Mandela Effectepisode?
You know, in fact, sir, I doremember our Mandela Effect
episode.
I will never forget it, mostlybecause when we recorded it, it

(01:30):
was so insane and such a rabbithole that our recording was
literally three and a half hoursthat I managed to pair down to
an hour and a half, which eventhen seemed excessive.
This is, I think, a topic onthat level.
I don't think it's going to bethat massive, but but who's to
say?
And people will probablyremember it differently in the
future.
I'm going to start with a quote.

(01:52):
And see if this seems familiarto you in any way, shape, or
form.
Me or the gentle listener?
Yes.
Our galaxy was created by asingle logos, and our sun is a
sub-logos of that logos.
A sublogos individualizes ordifferentiates the natural laws
set up by its logos.

(02:12):
It also refines the cosmic mindinto its specific archetypal
mind, informed by the experienceof earlier sub-logoi.
I had sub-logoi once.
I had to get some cream for it.
You have to take these bigpills.
They're horse pills, man.
Usually, if you just get somecitrus in your diet, it's fine.
My neighbor kept saying just useavramechnon.

(02:33):
But I was like, no.
You know what?
Now you're actually way closerto the topic than uh than we
were before.
We're not the type of people whocynically condemn or judge
systems of belief wholesale.
We don't.
No, no, no, would never do that.
We uh do couldn't, wouldn't,haven't, shouldn't.
I said wholesale.
You know, as long as yourreligion isn't used as a means
of like oppression or abuse orexploitation, yeah, it can be

(02:56):
beneficial to certain swaths ofsociety.
That's fine.

unknown (02:59):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (02:59):
That having been said, there is a phenomenon
post-the Enlightenment of movingaway from or finding
alternatives to the maininstitutions of organized
religion.
Be that movements like deism inthe 18th century, spiritualism
in the 19th and early 20thcenturies, the rise of
Hinduism-inspired cults in thesecond half of the 20th century.
It happens and it is cyclical.

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And in the modern world, thosecycles are much more rapid or
ongoing.
And since the beginning of the20th century, especially, those
ideas have been increasinglyesoteric and inspired by more
and more international schoolsof thought.
But even those that crop uptoday, be it QAnon or Zizzium,
is it Ziziism or is it Zizism?

(03:40):
Zizi Uh Steve Steve Zisu?
Is that what you're trying tosay?
Mm-hmm.
Yep, it's Steve Zanzism.
They aren't really whollyoriginal, and they do all share
similar elements.
One of the inevitable elementsof these cycles is, of course,
backlash by mainstream society.
In example, the Jesus movementof the 70s, the Titanic Panic,
Evangelicalism of the Ots,whatever the hell's going on

(04:02):
right now.
They're all part of the samesystem of rinse and repeat.
Case in point, QAnon is amanifestation of backlash and
also one of these examples.
But in all of those cases, oneof the unifying concepts is that
we somehow, as a species, havegotten off course spiritually,
and we have to get back toconnecting to society at large
and what is seen as God or acreator.

(04:24):
So today I wanted to talk aboutone that I discovered only

recently (04:26):
the curious case of the law of one.
Are you familiar with this atall?
Law of One.
Uh is that a uh SylvesterStallone Judge Tred reference?
That he is, in fact, the law?
He is the law of one.
This is all about Stallonism.
We are all Stallonites.
I am a Stalloneite.

SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
All praise the Stallone.
Stallone laughs at your God.

SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
The glass table and praise.
One of its disciples is VinceMcMahon.
Oh god.
No, that's a pantheon.
We can totally.
I read a really bad storyrecently that just came out
about him and one of the formerwrestlers he had that committed
suicide.
Good.
After they allowed her rape at amilitary base, that's an old

(05:13):
story.
But then he also.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
That really helped the mood.
So the Sorry.
Cut it out.
Cut it out.
Oh boy.
So the Law of One is a system ofbelief that stemmed from
ufologist, pilot, engineer,physicist, bon vivant, Don
Elkins, and his colleague JimMcCarthy, who together

(05:34):
interviewed a woman named CarlaRukert.
Now Rukert claimed to be amedium, and in the nearly in the
early 1980s, they engaged in aseries of sessions where Rukert
acted as a channel.
This comes up a lot.
A channel for an entity known asRa.
Yes, that Ra, the Ra you're allthinking of, from Stargate.
Which they believed was acollective consciousness or an

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advanced extraterrestrialintelligence.
Which off the bat should sort ofbe a red flag, right?
What do you mean?
Flares go up.
They sought to understand andcommunicate insights about the
unity of all life, the evolutionof the soul, the
interconnectedness of allthings, as Douglas Adams would
say.

(06:16):
They recorded all thesesessions, and they delved into
topics such as, well, prettymuch all just metaphysics.
They claimed that they talkabout philosophy, psychology,
and mystical aspects of thehuman experience, but I mean you
could just say metaphysics andwe kind of get it.
The resulting material was thenpublished as a series of books
that have attracted a loyalfollowing, as they put it, of

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those interested in spiritualteachings and esoteric
knowledge.
This work emphasizes the themesof, and here's the most
important part, love, light, andthe importance of personal
growth and understanding thecontext of a larger cosmic
framework.
Now, love and light are the mostimportant words in this entire
thing.
Because these people created,coined the phrase love and light

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as a spiritual top.
So, research of love and light,just Google love and light
research.
These guys created it.
These publications, in reality,were really just a collection of
double speak, misused ormisunderstood terminology and
rhetorical nonsense.
But because of its vagueness andits ambiguity, it's since
allowed wide swaths of people toapply their own sensibilities

(07:20):
and interpretations on top ofit.
We'll come back to that later.
First of all, Doug T.
Elkins, engineer, pilot, andparanormal researcher, and this
comes from I think his personalobituary, was born and raised in
Louis, Louisville, Kentucky.
I think they call it Louisville.
He grew up in a family ofChristian scientists.

SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
Jesus was first and foremost a scientist.
And an alien.
Apparently.
He departed from his youth.
Jesus Christ.
I guess that would just begetting older.
Uh no.
He departed from his youth.
I meant to say like a like arocket into space.
Elkins departed from his faithas a youth, and eventually he

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served in the Korean War, afterwhich he completed his education
at the University of Louisville.
He earned three degrees inengineering.
He completed his last one in1960.
He then took a job at theUniversity of Alaska.
Interesting, we talked aboutthat earlier, and created the
mechanical engineering programat that school.
In 1961, he accepted a positionat his alma mater, back in the

(08:24):
continental US.
He'd become interested in theparanormal in the mid-1950s.
Basically coming off of the UFOCraze, Roswell, and what have
you.
In 1962, he called together agroup to practice meditation in
an attempt to contactextraterrestrials.
Because he was gifted a bookthat depicted UFO contactees in
Detroit who claimed to have apsychic tie to their alien

(08:48):
abductors.
This part is actually, I think,on his website.
The experiment provedsuccessful.
And in 1963, he published aninitial report, telepathy data
collected by extraterrestrialcommunication.
It's required reading in mostschools now.
In 1965, he left.
Soon to be.
Well, yeah, now it's going tobe, I'm sure.
In 1965, he left the universityfor a higher paying job as a

(09:10):
pilot, because, you know, backwhen airlines made money,
apparently.
During this time, though, heformed a group that would stay
together for quite a while.
One of the people that hemanaged to recruit was a woman
named Carla Ruckert.
Following her divorce in 1968,they became close friends and he
began to work with her assometimes described as medium,

(09:30):
sometimes described as channel,and she became one of his top
bitches.
Technical terms.
Yeah, that's medical.
So in 1970, they founded LResearch, Love Light Research,
to provide structure for thisproject.
And so through the 1970s, Elkinsdeveloped a cadre of what he
called channels, or can bedescribed as mediums.

(09:52):
The first of which resulted in abook co-authored with Ruckert
called Secrets of the UFO.
Ooh, I'm intrigued.
I want to know the secrets ofthe UFO.
Tell me the secrets of the UFO.
Why have we not heard of thesebefore?
In 1980, Elkins invited a memberof his original group, James
McCarthy.
I think it's actually McCarthy.

(10:14):
I think it's James McCarthy.
To work with him exclusivelywith Rukirk.
As a result, was one of thecraziest paranormal sessions,
let's say, of all time.
This is right up there withRendelsham in its scope.
Rukert claimed to experience anintensive period of channeling
an extraterrestrial beingcalling himself Ra.

(10:34):
He claimed to have come to Earthcenturies ago and to have
introduced monotheism to Egyptand to have built the pyramids.
Okay, a bunch of flares goingoff now.
Yep.
Okay.
Alright.
This also comes from Elkin'swebsite.
He taught that the basic truthwas that in capital letters, all
are one.
This material was gatheredtogether and published over the

(10:55):
next few years as The Law ofOne.
Cool.
Love Light Research is jargonthey helped coin.
You'll see this in almost allnew age spiritualism today.
So much so, even in fuckingInstagram moms are talking about
love and light.
It's so cliche and so overused,even from 1970 when they coined
it, even the creators of it kindof commented it on it later.

(11:15):
It basically includes focusingthe mind to channel chakras and
focus and we're all love and Godis everything.
We've all heard it before.
Yeah, I call it the way.
That's how I found my spiritualtruth.
This is the way.
It's very clearly replicatable.
It's almost like a Mad Libstemplate for every spiritual
leader that comes after this.

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To the extent where Don Elkinsactually mentions this in one of
the sessions about how genericand absurdly obvious these
things were that she waschanneling.
He actually goes on to questionwhy is this so ambiguous?
At one point, he basically justgoes, Can we not do that because
we're wasting our time here?
Even though he believed it washappening, which is
embarrassing.

(11:56):
If you want, I can send you alink to some of the audio
because these were all recorded.
Basically, here's how it works.
So Ruckert would go into atrance state and channel raw.
And I'm gonna pause right hereso that I want you to understand
how serious this is.
This work, The Law of One, isalso referred to by them as the
Raw materials.

(12:17):
Wait, are we Raw Dogging thisepisode?
The Raw Dog materials.
You know, ODB used to say, Ooh,baby, I like it raw.
That must have been what he wastalking about.
I'm pretty sure he waschanneling Raw.
He was really into the sixthdensity social memory complex
that originated from Venus.
See, that's where we're gettingat here.

(12:37):
This is where it getscomplicated because we don't
want to be complete cynics andwe don't want to be, we don't
want to seem as we're justmaking fun of of certain things.
But no, we're having fun.
We're having fun, that's forsure.
It this comes down to sort oflike the fundamental idea that
this kind of thing it uses suchdouble talk and such generic and
ambiguous language that youcould pretty much just put

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whatever you want on top of itand then think you're doing
something profound.
Which I guess is all of humanhistory, but this is the onset
of the modern version of this.
This is post-Blavatsky andpost-that whole vrill, this is
the modern genesis of this kindof spiritualism.
Just naturally lends itself togrifters and con artists and
cult leaders.

(13:18):
Well, I mean, this thing behindall new religious movements is
that people are searching formeaning, they're searching for
hope, they're searching forenlightenment.
And if they haven't found it, anew path opening up that seems
new and fresh and different andexciting.
It's understandable that anybodywould take that path.
The people who do this, they'renot necessarily, you know, I
mean, well, I'm sure we'll getinto it, but not every QAnon

(13:42):
person is an idiot or a mark.
There's a lot of people just getmisguided.
They're searching for meaningand reason to their life, and
they found answers, or at leastsomeone purporting to have the
answers, you know, that may nothave their best interest or the
interest of society as a wholethere for them.
Right.
That's why I was saying it'scyclical.

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I mean, like whether it'sMormonism or spiritualism or
other offshoots of majorreligions or backlashes to major
religions.
I mean, think about all the thatcult in organ that essentially
started with a yoga instructorwho became a psychotic dictator.
And since the Enlightenment,essentially, and obviously
before it could, but that's athat's kind of a different
topic.
There have been backlashes todiscontent with mainstream

(14:24):
doctrine of institutionalizedreligion.
And so inevitably these kinds ofthings happen.
And along with those offshoots,like what was it?
Um in the in the 70s, you hadthe Hare Krishna's.
I mean, white people joiningHare Krishna groups or certain
hippie communes that professHindu doctrine or whatever.
I mean, it's cyclical, it'salways happened.

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A part of that is also the moremodern we get, the more we move
away from not necessarilygetting secular, but being more
granular with how we understandthe way the universe actually
works scientifically, the morewe look for different
explanation.
And instead of just being like,Oh, moon's too big, I gotta kill
this chick in town because she'sa witch.

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We go, Oh, well now I know howthe moon works.
So I need to kill the chickentown because she's a witch.
But I do know about the moon.
But I know how the moon worksnow.
So they look for more grandiose,but also more at the same time,
both generic and specificexplanations.
Like they pick and choose fromdifferent cultures, but they
still want more so overarchinglyvague answers to these things

(15:30):
that we get stuff like this.
Here's uh one of my favoriteexcerpts of this.
This is kind of how theseconversations went in these
sessions from the questioner.

SPEAKER_02 (15:39):
Understand that the first distortion, intelligent
infant, distortion of what wecall free will.
Can you give me a definition ofthis distortion?

SPEAKER_03 (15:51):
I am wrought in this distortion of the law of want.
It is recognized that thecreator will know itself.

SPEAKER_02 (16:11):
And am I correct in assuming that the creator will
know itself?
Creator and grants for thisknowing the concept of freedom,
total freedom of choice, in thethe ways of knowing.
Am I correct?

SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
I am wrong.
This is quite correct.

SPEAKER_01 (16:37):
I mean, maybe six-dimensional creator entities
might speak this way.
Um who else would Zool?
I think Zool.
At least I got the gist of whatZool was saying, and Zool didn't
have to say I am Zool everytime.
Like it's Simon says.
I will continue.

(16:57):
Questioner.

SPEAKER_02 (16:58):
Just then being the first distortion of the law of
one, which I assume means thelaw of intelligent similar.

SPEAKER_01 (17:05):
I'm assuming that too.
We're all thinking that.
But who would?
I mean, we're all on the samepage here.
Intelligent infinity, that'sobviously that's my license
plate, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (17:15):
No, your license plate's actually much strangely
more confusing if you even don'tknow what it means.

SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
This then being the first distortion of the law of
one, which I assuming is the lawof intelligent infinity, from
all other distortions, whicharen't the total experience of
the creation, spring from this.
Is this correct?

SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
What?
I am wrong.
This is both correct andincorrect in your illusion all
experience springs from the lawof free will or the way of

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confusion in another sense whichwe are learning.
The experiences are thisdistortion.

SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
Fuck off, Ross.

SPEAKER_00 (18:19):
The Raw is that! The Raw in Stargate made way more
sense.

SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Okay, this I like this part too.
Um we're gonna do with this thewhole time, but this is funny.
Although we could.
That could be a whole podcast ofitself.
We could do a live thing aboutthat, that'd be really funny.

SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
We'll have to think about that and ask questions on
it in the next session whilewe'll go on to what you have
given me is the seconddistortion, which is distortion
of love.
Is this correct?

SPEAKER_03 (18:48):
Where did that come from?
I am raw.
This is correct.

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
Cool.
Thanks, great.
Nailed it.
Really helping me in my life.
This is enlightenment.
It's all explained now.
This is enlightenment.
This is the truth in the way.
The love and the light.
This is what raw dogging loveand life is all about.

SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
Raw dogging love and life.
That's the name of the episode.

SPEAKER_01 (19:14):
This influences so many people today.
Very serious people.
What was that woman who likedied in Hawaii?
They'd wrapped her in Christmaslights.
Amy Carlson?
Yeah.
Mother God.
That's this.
It's still going on.
Yep.
It always will be.
Apparently.
Until Raw finally decides tocome through the Stargate.

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Yeah.
Once he pops out, and I waslike, hey, yo, obviously you
guys know what Love and Lightsabout.
You know that whole free willthing.
We talked about it earlier, youknow.
Hey, I'm Raw.
Did you see the Raw thing?
Let me tell you the raw truth.
Until that happens, someone'sgonna be trying to figure things
out, and that's where we getthis stuff.

(19:57):
Even from their own website.
They try to give you theseoverarching synopses of point by
point, and even in those, theycontradict themselves.
If you go and you actuallylisten to the or read the
transcripts from the actualsessions.
The Law of One states that thereis only one, and that one is the
infinite creator, which Ra alsocalls the infinite intelligence

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or intelligent infinity.
Okay.
Since all is one, allmanifestations or appearances of
manyness is an illusion.
According to Ra, it is anillusion carefully engineered in
order to give the creator theopportunity to know itself.
Okay, so this is where you thinkyou get into like, I don't know,
original sin or something,right?
On their website, it says inRa's terms, distortion is

(20:40):
anything that moves away fromundistorted unity.
Defining yourself by sayingyou're not the opposite of
yourself is really helpful.
You're Jake because you're notnot Jake.
Hey, stop you pretending to lie.
You're you're you're Jakebecause you're not anti-Jake.
Stepping back a second, byimposing these at odds logical

(21:03):
distinctions and rhetoricalconundrums, it imposes this
pseudo-esoteric mysticism andineffability to these things.
You can't really ever grasp itbecause you can't explain it.
So it's always mysterious andthus has power.

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And you can't disprove iteither.
No, because it's not sayinganything, it's all just mumbo
jumbo.
Yeah.
So you're just running around incircles.
And anybody who tries to likecome at that, well, they'll just
point to that.
And then if you try to explain,like, well, that doesn't make
sense, or like, well, you'rejust not understanding.
Right, exactly.
It innately doesn't make sense.

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And then the more you look intoit, the less it makes sense.
Okay, so free will, the firstdistortion.
The first distortion is freewill or affinity, or the limit
of viewpoint.
Or the concept of free will is adistortion of the way things
are.
Right, which can be taken somany ways.

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It's a malleability of motive.
Absolutely.
You can use it however you like.
It says here, even in this, withthe first distortion, the
created universe that weexperience is the creator's
exploration of itself throughthe first distortion, which Ra
also calls the law of confusion.
Ra defines free will as therecognition that the creator

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will know itself.
You can take that in a lot ofways.
It's a little different.
The way that they describe freewill.

SPEAKER_03 (23:02):
I am wrong.
This is quite correct.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
That's not exactly what they said in the summation,
though.
I mean, I do find their abilityto interpret the universe in a
new way fascinating, but I willgive it that.
This is a good one.

SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
Is there a manifestation of love that we
could call vibration?

SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
That is science.
I just love how all of thesequestions they have an
underlying thesis behind themthat is coming completely out of
the field.
Yeah.
I know.
Well, we all know that 5G givescancer to cats.
I mean, yes, we do know that.
Uh I am raw.
Yes, that is correct.

(23:48):
And so from there, we can nowbuild our logical arguments.
That's what this is, right?
Yeah.
And then, of course, theresponse, this is one of the
longer responses by Ra.

SPEAKER_03 (23:59):
I am raw.
Again, we reach semanticdifficulties.

SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
You know what?
He's not wrong there.

SPEAKER_03 (24:13):
The vibration or density of love or understanding
is not a term used in the samesense as the second distortion

(24:35):
love.
The distortion love being thegreat activity and final co
create of various creationsusing intelligent infinity the

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vibration love a being of thatdensity in which those who have
learned to do an activity calleda loving without significant

(25:26):
distortion, then seek the waysof light or wisdom.
Thus in a vibratory sense.

(26:17):
Thus vibratory complexesrecapitulate in reverse of the
creation in its unity.
Thus a showing of the rhythm orflow of the great heartbeat if

(26:46):
you will use this analogy.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
Shout out to the movie Rhythm and Flow.
What are we supposed to make ofthe rhythm of the night then?
If there's no light.
How does this religious movementnot do rhythm of the light?
How is it not the law of one inthe Miami sound machine?
Also, do we think that Groot isjust like he's still
contemplating how to tell themabout their original sin?

(27:13):
That's like, I am Groot.
Your idea about vibrational loveis wrong.
And that's a real ancient alienstheory there.
Yeah.
Yeah, you could say this iskooky and woo-woo, and that's
fine.
I am raw.
That is correct.
This is correct.
I'm sure you've gone throughsome of these.
They are quite entertaining.
The woman that's channeling thisis eventually just like, I'm

(27:35):
tired.
Let's do this later.
I love that.
I love that.
Uh no, I know we're likebreaking down the laws of the
universe and what it means to behuman and both an infinite soul
wandering upon the light andlove of the intergalactic unity
that we all are.
But I'm really hungry, so Ithink we're gonna take a break.

SPEAKER_03 (27:57):
This instrument is growing low in vital energy,
green ray energy, and partiallyopen other self to blue ray

(28:21):
interaction.
May we ask if you have anyqueries.
Before we close.

SPEAKER_00 (28:35):
So the next response is the only thing I need to know
is is there anything we can doto make the instrument more
comfortable or help her?

SPEAKER_03 (28:42):
I am wrong.
This instrument is slightlyuncomfortable.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
Wait, what?
Hold on.
Wait, oh what?
That's supposed to be like asalutation?
I don't know what that is.
A-D-O-N-A-I?
I guess that's supposed to be asalutation.
What you say?
A-D-O-N-A-I?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the word?
And it refers exclusively toGod, the singular form of

(29:12):
Adonai, the Hebrew term meaningmy lord or my master.
Originally historically used torefer to human superior, a king,
a husband, or man in position ofauthority.
Okay.
So he was saying raw out anddropped the mic.
Yeah.
I am raw.
This vessel needs at least acouple hundred dollars, uh,

(29:32):
maybe twenty minutes of oralsatisfaction and a light nap.
Do you have any change?
I am raw.
Can you put the game on, please?
I am raw.
My car broke down, and I need toget back home to my kids.

(29:52):
I'm hangry.
Please leave me alone.
Oh, bra.
And I don't mean to be cynical,but the best.
Part about this is like I'mliterally reading this from
their website.
You can look this up.
They give you free links totheir audio, to their
transcripts of these sessions,which number 106, by the way.
That's a that's a lot of truth.

(30:13):
The first round, there is latera movement called Re-Listening,
where they will revisit this anddo an extra 60 plus.
Oh shit.
That's smart.
Yeah, yep.
That's smart.
That's the New Testament.
Yeah.
Take that old shit, flip it,reverse it, make the new shit,
and then spit on it.

(30:34):
Remix that shit.
That's your third one.
Get somebody to cover that shit.
That's four.
And then you have a reboot.
That's five right there.
And then a few years later, youhave a requel.
Yeah.
Do a prequel of that reboot.
Then you have a multiverse whereit's the two interacting.
Oh no.

(30:55):
So I'm on the website right now,right?
And they have all these links inin various languages.
And then there's an ad at thebottom.
And this is not generated bythem.
This is an actual ad put in byyou know one of those firms that
does this.
Put in by Ra himself.
What starseed are you?
Ooh, which one?
Oh man, there's so many tochoose from, though.
And it asks, are you aPalladian?

(31:17):
A gray brackets Zeta reticuli?
A light worker?
Or a Syrian?
No, not a Syrian.
Syrian.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I've always thought ofmyself more as an Arcturian.
Hmm.
You know, with Arcturians, maybeit doesn't matter, you know.
I've always considered myselffrom the 12th planet.
Leboo-Boo.

(31:41):
No, canonically it's now LaBoo-Boo.
Okay.
Sure is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what we needed.
That's the good stuff rightthere.

SPEAKER_02 (31:50):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
People tying this into the Anunnaki, coming up
with different weirdinterpretations of it, you know,
of on their own, because it's sogeneric in its like double speak
and its ambiguity that theycould just kind of throw
whatever jargon or what have youon top of it and make it mean
whatever they want.
And you know what?

(32:12):
And for some people, maybe thathelps.
Sure.
But when you get into theancient alien stuff, as we were
talking, a lot of it is isliterally just white colonial
discreditation of ancientcultures and othering of
non-white, non-Europeansocieties, their ability to
possibly engineer something orbuild something and not be

(32:35):
white.
I would say there is a strongWestern paradigm that is applied
to a lot of these things whenthey don't quite understand.

(32:59):
And some of this comes fromthat.
But I do think what you'resaying is like at the through
line for a lot of people who getinto this line of thinking.
And as you were saying, thereare accounts of things like the
chariots of the gods type stuff,the wheels, the you know, all
sorts of alien, you know, not auh maybe accounts you could say

(33:24):
in ancient history, but youknow, the premise, the
underlying premise of most of ofthis type of line of thinking is
essentially othering aliens.
Wait, we you can't other aliens,man.
This is the uh the the infiniteall of us, what whatever it was,
the the what was it, the theinfinite intelligence?

(33:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, on this density.
I mean, it all depends, youknow, which layer of the jello
you're really functioning on.
I mean, it's part of the75,000-year cycle.
That's a long cycle.
I didn't want to even get intothat because the the lore in
this is long.
It's really long.
There's 106 of these in thefirst.

(34:06):
You can look into that if youwant to.
Do your own search.
I didn't want to get too farinto it, but this is interesting
because it is a fundamental, Ithink, part of the modern new
age spiritual movement.
And if you've ever heard anyonetalk about light beings or
moving toward light, or likebeing a bringer of light, or

(34:26):
being, you know, like a or whitelight, star children, or
anything in that vein.
Anything you heard at BurningMan, these guys coined light
love research.
And this is kind of thefundamental baseline.
You said you were going downthis particular light and love
rabbit hole, and it it led youto some other places, is that

(34:49):
right?
Something that a little teaserfor what will come next.
Oh, indeed it did.
In fact, there were a lot ofthings that falling down this
rabbit hole, I hit my head on,and we will discuss several of
those coming up soon.
Give us little little tastes onthe menu.
Well, this will be literallywhat it is, but I encourage all
of you to look up a guy, afriend, dear friend, friend of

(35:11):
the show.
Uh, let's not go that far.
Sunbow True Brother.
And if you've ever met him at arainbow gathering.
A squatch sighting, maybe.
If you've ever gone squatching,you might have met our good
friend Sunbow True Brother.
It's just a tease.
There's more involved, and wewill get to that soon.

(35:35):
Indeed, we will, gentlelistener.
But until that time, we hopethat you've enjoyed the journey
with us so far.
I am raw.
And if you wouldn't mind liking,share, and subscribing.
We just start on every statementthat way.
I am raw.
Please leave us five lights andloves.
On the podcast app of yourchoice, ideally Apple Podcasts.

(35:58):
It's the best way for gettingheard and seen.
I am Raw.
Don't do check us out onYouTube.
Uh, we are there.
We'll have social mediasometime, you know.
I am Raw.
Uh, but until we do, also if youwe are if you know that any
people that might uh, you know,friends, loved ones, retirees,
veterans, veterinarians, anybodywho might be interested in uh

(36:21):
what we do, what we talk about,hey, uh pass along, you know,
because uh I am raw, and we wejust want to like share what
what we're doing, and you know,one last thing I'd like to say
that I am raw, and we are happythat you have been listening
with us, and we hope you'veenjoyed everything and skip
until next time.
I am raw.
What should they do?
Well, first and foremost, I amraw, and we are all part of the

(36:45):
whole, the infiniteintelligence, the one, the whole
being of creation.
Reject distortions and the ideaof manyness, and please support
your local comic shops andretailers because they are part
of the whole and the one.
And they are raw.
And from Dispatch Ajax, who israw, we would like to say,

(37:06):
Godspeed, fair wizards.
I am raw.

SPEAKER_03 (37:09):
Please go away.
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