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March 13, 2025 51 mins

In this episode, the first of Season 2, Pascal welcomes Johnathan and Melissa, founders of the Raw Signal Group, to discuss the evolving landscape of management and leadership. Known for their impactful writings and expertise, Johnathan and Melissa share their insights on how leaders can navigate the turbulent shifts brought about by remote work, AI advancements, and geopolitical changes. They explore the concept of 'liminal space' in the workplace and the challenges faced by managers in constantly adapting to new norms. The conversation delves into the importance of middle management, the need for organizations to prioritize clarity and communication, and the critical role of one-on-one meetings in managing change effectively. They also highlight the pitfalls of relying solely on top-down directives and the importance of critical self-reflection for leadership development. The episode concludes with practical advice for leaders at all levels and a glimpse into the training and resources offered by the Raw Signal Group.


Raw Signal Group: ↗ https://www.rawsignal.ca

Raw Signal Group’s “The World’s Best Newsletter”: ↗ https://www.rawsignal.ca/worlds-best-newsletter/

Unmanageable - Leadership Lessons from an Impossible Year: ↗ https://www.amazon.com/Unmanageable-Leadership-Lessons-Impossible-Year/dp/0995964327/

How F*cked Up Is Your Management - An Uncomfortable Conversation About Modern Leadership: ↗ https://www.amazon.com/How-cked-Your-Management-uncomfortable/dp/0995964300


00:00 Introduction to Season Two


00:49 Meet Jonathan and Melissa


00:55 Navigating the Liminal Space


01:27 Challenges in Modern Leadership


03:22 The Human Element in Tech


05:49 The Role of Middle Management


08:48 Effective Change Management


10:53 Building Confidence in Leadership


17:37 The Importance of One-on-Ones


20:16 Overcoming Resistance to Change


24:24 Creating a Narrative Hook for Change


25:12 Responding to Overwhelming Change


25:43 The Importance of Structure in Fast-Moving Organizations


26:53 The Impact of Intentional Design in Management


29:24 The Killer Competitor Exercise


30:13 The Challenge of Stopping Activities


32:20 The Importance of Trade-offs in Management


36:07 The Future of Work and Management


44:04 Practical Advice for Leaders in Liminal Spaces


47:17 About Raw Signal Group and Conclusion

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