April 2, 2025 • 29 mins
Debi Kinney shares how turning 40 can be the start of your best decade yet, as she transformed her career from corporate hospitality to goals coaching at 45 and achieved her best physical health at 49. We explore the powerful mindset shift that comes with embracing your 40s as a fresh start rather than a decline.
• Breaking free from corporate America to pursue more fulfilling work with greater impact
• The importance of proactive health monitoring including hormone levels and vitamin deficiencies
• Why coaches look at health, fitness, lifestyle, and business goals as interconnected areas
• The "BID System" for creating sustainable habits through small, consistent changes
• How women in their 40s can leverage self-knowledge and experience to reinvent themselves
• Practical strategies for overcoming overwhelm when making life changes
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
hi, I'm carlene and this is diva.
Tonight we are focusing on theage like 40, like who you are as
a woman, 40 and the milestoneitself and just how great 40 is.
And we're just talking aboutthis.
I have Debbie Kinney who is inLas Vegas, right, and you change
(00:30):
your career from working incorporate America, as they call
it, with amazing sale records.
I see you have, as they say,quite the resume.
So right, you know.
So you're a goals coach is whatyou say.
Hello, coaching is yourbusiness name.
Thank you so much for makingthe time to join me here on zoom
(00:54):
.
So what made you decide tochange careers in your forties?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my gosh.
Well, thank you for having me.
I'm so excited about this topic.
It's just I tell everyonethat's coming into their forties
.
They're like, oh, I'm turning40 this year.
I'm like it is the best decade,like run into this decade, it's
amazing.
So I switched from corporatehospitality 25 plus years in
meetings, events, sales intogoals, coaching at the age of 45
(01:22):
, because I wanted morefulfillment.
I wanted to feel like what Iwas doing was having an impact
on the people I was working with, and not that events aren't
meaningful or impactful, but Iwas searching for a little bit
deeper With events.
They remember key moments andthings, but I really wanted that
connectivity with individualsand also being in events.
(01:47):
I was working a lot of hoursand I'm raising a son, I have a
wife and I wanted to devote moretime to my family, so something
had to give.
So I said you know what?
It's time to make a switch.
And the pandemic hit and I wasapproached about coaching and I
said you know what, let me tryit.
And about six months in, I kindof did as a side hustle, just
(02:08):
to see about six months in, Iwas like in my office running
the numbers and I was like holdon.
I called my husband.
I said I think I can do thisfull time, but like, please
double check my math, make sureI carried the one and all the
things.
And he was like, yeah, let's dothis.
So I left corporate America andstarted my business and it's
(02:28):
been absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, it sounds like it is.
I've seen.
Like you know, InternationalWomen's Day just passed, like a
few days ago.
You know, social media is howwe've connected thanks to
Facebook, and you know, I see onInstagram that you had this
nice little message from womenwho are celebrating
International Women's Day.
(02:51):
Are those some of your clients?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's clients, that's friends, that's
colleagues, that's businesspartners.
I still, you know, I tried toleave events, but I just can't.
It's in my DNA.
So, as part of my business, Istill produce events.
I do golfing events, I do spaevents, networking events, and
so a lot of those photos werefrom those.
But it was just.
It was just a collection of allthe women in my life who I'm so
(03:15):
, so, very grateful for becausethey inspire me and help me to
become the best version ofmyself every day.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, so, um, you know, what did you study in
school?
How, like how, how did Debbieget to here?
And now you know, like, yes, Imean that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh my gosh, that's so many moons ago.
I was a communication majorwhich is great.
Yeah, it's a broad topic andthen I minored in history of the
Holocaust, so not applicable.
Oh my gosh, I can't say the wordapplicable whatsoever to what I
do today, but I am fascinatedby it.
And then I went on to getspecialty like certificates and
(03:55):
credentials within my field ofwork, both in event planning and
then also now in coaching.
So I've continued my education.
I'm a lifelong learner, but,yeah, communications was the
basis for everything.
Yeah, I know, continued myeducation.
I'm a lifelong learner, but,yeah, communications was the
basis for everything.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I know communication is important.
I mean, it's the heart foreverything, like you know, when
you communicate with clients andcustomers and you definitely in
event planning, that's to awhole all of that.
So when you were in corporateAmerica and you said you were
working long hours, were youworking for a business Like?
(04:28):
What business were you workingin?
I know a lot of it was salesdriven, obviously, but when you
were in that industry, what wasthat like?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So I worked for various types of companies.
I worked for a Six Flags themepark, I worked for a convention
and visitors bureau, I workedfor hotels, caterers,
restaurants, destinationmanagement companies, so
nonprofits.
So I had a really wide array ofexperiences, all under the
umbrella of meeting and eventplanning.
(04:58):
But if you think about meetingsand events, they're typically
nights and weekends and so youknow you're working your.
They say nine to five.
It's never nine to five, it'smore like six to 10.
And then you know, outside ofthose cause, you know clients
have questions and you know partof that expectation in the
service industry is availability, and that was that ended up
(05:21):
being a problem for me.
That was like a boundary issue.
I'd get home after a long dayand be cooking dinner for my
family and my phone would beblowing up, it's like but I've
got a crying baby over here andI've got a crying lion over here
.
What do I do?
And then you work your nine tofive.
And then you have your actualevents that you're producing and
you're setting up and you'reattending the event and you're
(05:42):
breaking down.
And so it was, you know, 60plus hour weeks sometimes, and
it's.
You know, we're we're much,much more aware now about mental
health and burnout and thingslike that.
Back in the day it was justlike that's the job, do it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You have to figure it out.
I know it's crazy.
I think, like you said, covidkind of made us rejig or rethink
everything or make a differentplan, because, yeah, this is
when I started podcasting, moreseriously too, like the idea
came years ago, but I justdidn't make a plan, do a
business plan and all that.
(06:17):
And so hearing you talk aboutthat too, it makes me remember,
like you know, five years agojust had opportunity to change
the way that things were goingfor us, and so it looks like it
was a good change for you.
Definitely Right, 100% was yes,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm literally like I pinched myself.
I'm grateful every day,literally living my best life.
It's, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Because we're talking about, you know, that milestone
birthday or, you know, from theage of 40 to 49, and just being
a woman in the in this life, inthis lifetime at that, where
our bodies are changing andeverything's happening, and I
feel like it's.
It's kind of like you're allcomfortable in your own skin now
(07:03):
.
So what do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh, 100%, absolutely Well and it's interesting
because, as I shared with youbefore, you know, when I read
about your podcast, Iimmediately am just so excited
to talk to you because I think40s is the best decade.
I'm, whatever nine months shyof 50 or seven months shy of 50.
So I'll let you know when I getthere, but as of right now, 40s
(07:31):
wins, so I'm super passionateabout that.
However, in addition, most ofmy clients are in their 40s to
60s and because I coach in thearea of health and fitness, as
well as lifestyle habits andbusiness, when you, when you
look at health and fitness toyour point, our bodies are
changing and we feel like, isthis even our body?
Do we settle?
For me?
When I was 45 and I changedcareers, I also went through a
(07:52):
physical transformation,completely changed the way I ate
, completely changed my workoutsand ended up losing 26 pounds
and 17% body fat.
I got rid of all the chronicpain I had a back injury, got
rid of that.
So I'm in literally the bestshape mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually of mylife at 49.
(08:14):
And I think when we wereyounger, you almost looked at
40s is like, oh, that's so old,like life you know is over and
you just kind of ride thathamster wheel and for me it's
like no, this is a whole newlife, a whole second chance to
like really, as you said, likebe comfortable in my own skin
and own my identity and like putit out there, just encourage
(08:34):
others to do the same.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, and so you said a lot of your clients are in
that age, and I think today Ihad a discussion with another
entrepreneur and I think thereis so much that we don't talk
about as women, about, like youknow, our hormone levels,
perimenopause.
There's so much things that I'mlearning on my own, like having
(08:59):
to, like you said, you have tochange your diet because of all
the health concerns that we aswomen in this category deal with
.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
and so, as someone who's working with people on
their health, what, what are ourstruggles that you've noticed,
you know oh my gosh, so manystruggles internally in terms of
like, relating to ourselves,like how do we do all the things
?
How are we moms and wives andcareer women's, and so you know
just that that identity piece.
Physically, our bodies arechanging, typically especially
(09:31):
in the midsection.
We're we're getting belly fat,we're feeling bloated, our
clothes aren't fitting the waywe want them to.
You know, we maybe don't feelas sexy to our husband or as
sexy to ourselves or our partner, and so there's a lot of
changes that are that arehappening emotionally with our
hormones.
It's, you know, a whole, it's awhole roller coaster.
So there's an even just withmental health, because as your,
(09:55):
as your emotions and yourhormones fluctuate, your mental
health can actually suffer.
So one of the first things thatI do with my clients is I have
them not only, you know, get onthe scale.
I'm a big data nerd, you knowwe work with the scale.
I have them do photos, I havethem do measurements, I have
them do body fat percentage.
Body fat percentage is actuallythe number one indicator of
(10:18):
where your health lies in termsof potential risk for disease.
That adipose fatty tissue is abig indicator.
So we take all of those.
I also with my women.
Adipose fatty tissue is is abig indicator.
So we take all of those.
I also with my women.
I do have them go to a doctorand get a blood test.
I want to check them fordeficiencies.
I want to check them forhormonal levels, because you can
(10:38):
change all the things in yourdiet but if your hormone levels
are off and you need medicationto rebalance those, it doesn't
matter how many sticks of celeryyou eat.
You have to get some outsidehelp.
So I do encourage them.
I work in tandem with themedical system because nutrition
is a big piece of it, but itisn't always all of it.
(10:59):
I worked with a client back inthe fall who was having massive
hormonal fluctuations and I'm sothankful that she agreed when
we started working together togo get her blood tests done
because it was it was dangerouslike she's had to have some,
some procedures done to thatextent and that's not to, you
know, scare.
That was an extreme situationbut it's so good to.
(11:21):
That's part of health andwellness.
Right is getting thoseevaluations annually and making
sure that you're ahead of it.
You You're being proactive withyour health, not reactive.
That's.
That's really my point.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So you talk about hormone levels, so can you get a
test for that?
I think this is like the secondyou're the second person to
talk about hormone and I thinkthere is this thing where that's
not something you necessarilycheck, like check your, your
iron and your vitamin levelsthing you necessarily check,
like check your, your iron andyour vitamin levels.
You know, I notice like hereand in canada you don't get as
much sun in the wintertime soI've had to up my vitamin d and
(11:56):
and so hormones is thatsomething that you can't like?
What are you checking when you,when you help your clients,
what are you asking them interms of blood work?
What do you ask them to?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
check, I ask them to go to their doctor and work with
their doctor.
I don't, I'm a, I'm a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't prescribe you know, yeah, not in that sense,
but I meant, like you said,blood work, like general blood
work is like it's just yourcheckup right, check cholesterol
, those things, but yeah, and,like you said, some doctors will
go deeper.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Deeper they'll check thyroid levels, like I get a
blood test every three monthsand it's checking, like my
vitamin and mineral checking, my, you know, oxygen, um,
oxygenation, and so you can goas deep or as surface as you
want, but the main thing is todo it regularly, to be proactive
, not reactive, and to watch thetrends over time.
(12:46):
So I go every three months andmy vitamin B level I've been
taking massive doses of vitaminB.
It's not moving.
So we had to take a differentcourse of action because it
wasn't alarming in and of itselfin the test, but because it's
not moving over time and I'msupplementing massively, it's
like, okay, what's going on.
So those are the types ofthings that I can work with
(13:08):
clients and the medical systemto to watch those patterns and
to give accountability for andto make a plan for it so that
that health and wellness piecedoes get covered off on.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, you're pinpointing the important things
too, because I think for, likeme, like many black women suffer
with like low iron and I'manemic, and I've been like this
since I was a kid and I think,well, there was at one point
where my iron level was so lowand they had to do other tests,
because it's not like I wasn'ttaking my supplements and eating
(13:43):
.
But once you figure it out,it's like wow, it has to do with
family history too.
Once you figure it out, it'slike wow, it has to do with
family history too.
And knowing that and had Iknown before, I probably would
have done a regular test becauseit was just like wow.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now we're in that situation where you're in dire
straits and you have to make aradical change, right, and so
and if you're deficient insomething like iron, it can
impact other systems in yourbody and so now it's not just
the iron but it's, you know, ahost of other issues caused by
the deficiency.
And so you know, trying to getahead of that and knowing some
(14:18):
people just run at a certainlevel For me.
I've had an autoimmune diseasesince I was in fourth grade and
I'm on medication now and youknow again, I'm 49.
So it's been a long time andI'm on medication now and have
you know again, I'm 49.
So it's been a long time.
But this medication, typicallyit has some obviously side
effects, like it impacts yourbone density, things like that.
I run on a very, very high doseof it.
(14:41):
But my doctor knows me wellenough to know you operate
really well when you're on thishigh dose.
So what might be kind of toohigh for someone else, you
handle it really well.
So we're going to keep youthere.
But that's the importance ofgoing regularly, regularly to
make sure that it's allmonitored and not causing other
side effects.
So yeah, it's just it's knowingwhat your levels are and making
(15:02):
sure you've got that patternestablished so you can just
watch for trends and any changes.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Diva Tonight glamour for your ears.
This is 40, a femaleperspective.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, it's so important, like you said and we
were talking about I think it'svery important, like when you're
considering getting a coach.
I think a lot of people don'tthink it's important to have a
coach and to help you facilitatebecause, like, we have to
manage so much and so you weresaying with your, with what you
(15:33):
do, like we're talking abouthealth, but life coaching, do
life coaching, business andpersonal but you say they all,
they all intermingle with eachother.
So why is it important to youfeel, as a coach yourself, that
you have to look at everythingas a whole, absolutely,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well, for the people that think like, oh, I don't
need a coach, or you know,coaching is a waste of money, or
a coach can't help me, I saylook at the top athletes, the
top business people, topcelebrities they all have
coaches.
They are at the top of theirgame and they still have someone
coaching them.
Because that outsideperspective you know, as our own
(16:14):
little human bodies, we're tooclose to a lot of the issues
that can really take us to thatnext level.
So having that outsideperspective is so helpful.
The reason I coach under theumbrella of goals coaching in
health and fitness and lifestyleand business is because those
four areas are like the fourwheels on four tires on a car,
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so if one goes flat, the otherthree are working a lot harder.
Or if you're doing really wellin one area, the other areas
might be, you know, pulling backa little bit, and so I try to
really help people stay movingforward, keep that momentum
staying integrated.
I don't really believe in theword balance, because I that
implies like 50, 50, right, likework-life balance, like
(17:01):
sometimes you're going to beworking harder because you got a
deadline, or you're trying toland a client and sometimes
you're going to be on vacationwith your family and you're
going to be working harderbecause you got a deadline.
Or you're trying to land aclient and sometimes you're
going to be on vacation withyour family and you're going to
be kicking your heels up on abeach with a pina colada.
It's about integration andfinding that your own sense of
balance for you.
But that's why I chose thosefour areas, because those,
typically, if you're reallykilling it in the gym, you're
probably doing really reallywell at work because you're
(17:21):
feeling good.
You're feeling good, you'reeating well, you're meeting with
clients, so we want to makethose so that they're as
integrated as possible, and sothat's why I coach those areas.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, and so when you say that it's like if one area
in your life is suffering, thenother areas start suffering,
exactly, yes, the opposite isalso true, yeah, and so it lifts
all ships Right.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But it is also true, yeah, and so it lifts all ships
right.
But then if you've got one tire, it also pulls on the other, um
can, can harm your car.
So you gotta, you gotta, findthat integration I.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I feel like you know it's a habit to.
How do you change a habit likefor me?
I'm a night owl and and becauseI'm, the work I do is shift
work, so sometimes I'm opening,sometimes I'm closing, and the.
I got myself in a bad habitwhere I have to now force myself
to try and go to bed earlierevery night because if I don't,
(18:15):
I I will stay up later than Ishould.
Right, and sleep is soimportant with everything, right
, and so, as a coach, how do youhelp your clients change the
habit Like the?
You know the bad habits.
It's hard, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's really hard.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And implementing the good habits is hard too.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
We're easy we all be walking around with like
supermodels like billionairesyou know like no.
So what I do?
I use this system.
I call it the bid system.
It's called breaking it down.
I, literally right before youand I started talking, I just
got off the Zoom with a brandnew client.
She's feeling really stuck inher business, unmotivated to the
point where she doesn't evenwant to get out of her robe and
leave her house unmotivated.
(18:54):
So she's got a goal.
So we talked about her big goal, which is a dollar amount, and
I said, okay, let's break thatdown to get to this dollar
amount a month.
What are the bare minimum stepsthat you can take every single
day to get you to that end goal?
It's doing the least amount ofwork, as you know, making it as
(19:15):
unpainful if that's a word aspossible.
But the secret formula is doingthe work plus consistency, plus
time.
That equals the results.
So we devised a plan for herwe're just going into month one
where she's going to do threethings every single day, just
three things.
And they're not crazy.
(19:35):
It's like five client check-insa day.
It's like being in the officefor a set number of hours a day.
They're not crazy, they're notunrealistic.
But as she starts to buildthose patterns and those habits
and she starts to see theresults.
The momentum will build andthat's how we start to build
even bigger habits and then wecan just layer on top of them.
But to answer your question,it's it's find the smallest step
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that you can take towards yourgoal, implement it, implement it
consistently and then build ontop of that Right right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, my goodness, that is so important because it's
like I think a lot of us canrelate to that client where some
days you just don't want to getout of bed, like you have to,
like you're forcing yourself andtrying to find the motivation,
because I think, more so nowthere's more mental health
concerns than before.
There's things, like you know,various issues that people deal
(20:29):
with that you know it's kind oflike unspoken thing, but I mean
I think we're becoming a societythat talks more about mental
health and I think with a coach,that helps too.
And so routine is very, veryimportant, I think, with mental
health, and COVID taught us that.
But when you're someone who'slike easily distracted you work
(20:52):
with clients like that.
You know what I mean Like yes,and so where do you start off
first?
Because I feel like we're kindof overwhelmed with, so it's
like information overload.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It is, it is, and that's why creating that
structure and that discipline issuper, super important.
So I have another new clientthat I'm working with.
She's about a week and a halfin.
She's got a weight loss goal,she's got some pre-diabetic,
pre-high cholesterol numberscoming back from her doctor.
But we're not going to say likenever eat red meat again and go
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eat kale six times a day.
That's not realistic orsustainable.
So we set her three goals forthe first week and a half, two
weeks, of us working togetherand it's we're going to drink a
set number of ounces of water,we're going to eat dinner at
home four nights a week insteadof zero or one nights a week.
You know like it's starting tojust make these little lifestyle
(21:47):
changes that will then againstart to build the momentum.
You start to see the results.
Me, as a coach, I add thataccountability.
So when we feel that overwhelmof like oh, there's just this
huge goal out there and I don'tknow where to start or what to
do, I'm helping to sort of likespoon feed the steps, layer by
layer by layer.
But you just have to startsomewhere, somewhere small, with
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something that is like oh yeah,I can call five clients a day,
I can drink 64 ounces of water aday Like this.
Isn't rocket science, right?
And then, as you start torealize those small wins, your
confidence builds, you start totrust yourself more and you're
like, ok, I can do more.
your confidence builds, youstart to trust yourself more and
you're like okay, I can do more.
I can eat kale twice a day now,and I can cut down red meat
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once a month, or whatever thatlooks like.
So that's where we start with.
The overwhelm is just makingreally, really small changes.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, since you're talking about clients, so if I
was your client and you know alittle bit about me now, I said
I'm, and you know, working onthe diet thing because eating
more lentils, rice and more redmeat, because that's where I'm
lacking, right.
So I guess what would yourpointers be for for me to that?
Because what I was strugglingwith was keeping my iron at a
(23:00):
certain pace, and now I'veactually my last checkup.
It had improved immensely.
So I have to keep that goingright and not fall off the
beaten path, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so I mean it's.
that's why I say start small isbecause when you get those,
those small wins, then you canbuild on top of them.
If you try to just go like, gofor the gold right out of the
gates, it's really hard tosustain them.
It's like all these things thatyou have to do on top of what
you're already doing.
So if you can pick one or twoor three healthy things that you
(23:32):
can do, like I want to eat morecomplex carbohydrates versus
simple carbohydrates, I want todrink more water.
I want to eat more lean protein, not fatty protein.
I want to incorporate morelegumes into my diet, those
small steps versus saying, likeyou know, I'm never going gonna
have fast food again, or youknow like all or nothing.
So to make it sustainable, it'sjust creating those one, two or
(23:53):
three goals that you keep withday after day and then you build
on top of that.
Does that answer?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
that question.
Yeah, it does.
It does.
I think it's, like you said,small, for which is what I work
towards and definitely have tostart again.
You know what I mean, becausesometimes it's like this week
and then the week where you knowdoing with like pain, back pain
and, like you know, not feelingthe greatest Right, and so the
one part of you know being 40,I'm still doing, like you know
(24:22):
I'm not at that part yet, butlike you know what I mean the
menstrual cycle that we all haveto deal with, like once a month
, you know, and that's the partwhere, at this age in life, it's
more painful.
You know.
So, but, yeah, I think what Iwant to say is if you work, you
work with clients from various,not just in the U S.
(24:43):
Yes, so if someone isinterested in working with you,
what's the best way?
Do people contact you on yourInstagram, on your website?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Website is the best place because it's kind of the
one-stop portal that takes youto all my social media and all
the places, my email, all ofthat, so it's hellocoachinginfo.
Is my website address and fromthere you can connect with me
and there's all sorts of likefree resources and tools and
(25:13):
articles on that site.
But it will also connect you toInstagram, facebook, linkedin
all the all the things.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, that's amazing and you know it's.
It's important that you shareyour story and I think the one
thing I didn't talk about or askyou about family life and how
your son is older and, you know,been married for a while, and
so, at this part of your life,what is the one thing that you
can say to any woman in theirforties, at this stage of their
(25:39):
life, you know, or if they'returning 40, what would your your
message?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think, um, I would touch on what I tell people
every time they tell me like, oh, I'm turning 40.
I'm, like, I'm so scared ofthis.
Like, you know, turning thiscorner it's midlife and I just I
tell them it's the best decadeyet.
Like, it is not old, Life isnot over.
Like, if anything, it's a brandnew chapter to reinvent
yourself and to really go afteryour dreams.
(26:03):
You know yourself better.
You've been in your body for 40years.
Like, you know what you want,who you are, what your values
are.
That's the time to embrace thatand go after it.
Typically in our 40s we're moreestablished, career, wise,
financially, so we have a littlebit of a cushion to be able to
say like, oh, I want to start aside hustle.
Or oh, I really want to trainfor a marathon or a Spartan race
(26:26):
or meet my.
You know the love of my lifeand I would my time to really
connecting with a partner, andso that's.
My message is like, this isjust the beginning of a new
chapter.
It's the.
It's the best decade.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And even if, like you , aren't like financially where
you want to be like, what do yousay to that, to to those women
you know as well?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's not too late.
I mean, I am.
I'm living proof.
I was in corporate america, soit's you know, set payday and
out on my own.
Now I'm making better moneythan I've and I have more
financial and time freedom thanI ever had in corporate america,
and that's one of the reasons Idecided when I started coaching
I didn't coach businesscoaching, but I'm an
award-winning businessstrategist, I love sales and
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marketing, and so so I was likeyou know what?
I've built my business and Iwant to pay it forward.
I want to help other people dothe same.
So, yeah, even if you're notwhere you want to be financially
which I wasn't at 45, I wasliving paycheck to paycheck.
We were traveling once a yearas a family.
We wanted to take a vacation.
Now we travel like 3, four,five, six times a year.
It's not too late.
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You can always build a bigger,brighter, better future.
Bigger, brighter, betterversion of you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, that's so important, I think.
I think it's.
You know, we've been taughtthat yeah, your degree, and then
you're going to find a job and,like you know, the goal is to
work and make that paycheck.
And entrepreneurship is notsomething for everyone, but I
think there's just some of usthat realize that we want to do
(27:57):
more with our time and it's soimportant.
And so, as a coach and someonewho has a very experienced
business background in sales, Ithink that goes to say that
probably helps you to whatyou're doing.
But if someone wants totransition, right, what do you,
what do you say to them?
Because I think it's hard inyour mind to start off and it's
(28:19):
that push, and so I feel likeyou're that person to advocate
for for a few years, many yearsnow.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right, yeah, I mean, I think we're all in sales on
some level, like we're allselling ourselves all the time,
no matter, you know whetherwe're selling.
You know a cup or whatever likewe're, we're always all in sales
.
But from a transitionstandpoint, I say look at what
you want to be doing and look atwhat you're currently doing and
what skillsets are transferable.
(28:49):
So, for example, in eventplanning there was always like
this overarching end goal, thisend vision of what we wanted the
event to look like and feellike and be like.
The same thing goes forcoaching and whether that's a
weight loss goal, a muscle gaingoal, a business goal, we all
have this end vision, this dreamin mind.
So we just reverse, engineerthe steps to get there.
(29:11):
It's the same thing I was doingin event plan.
All the events were totallytransferable.
It's just under a differentumbrella and that's.
I'm not a unicorn in that right, Like that's for anybody out
there.
Look at what you're doing, Lookat what you want to do, Find
the skills that are transferableand go for it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No, that's some great advice, and I want to thank you
for sharing your process andyour journey.
I'm Carlene and this is DivaTonight with Debbie Kinney in
Las Vegas.
Oh my gosh, I haven't been inso long, but I love it.
Yeah, definitely.
So thank you again for sharing,thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Diva Tonight with Carlene will will be back.
Send us a message on instagramat diva underscore tonight.
hi, I'm carlene and this is diva.
Tonight we are focusing on theage like 40, like who you are as
a woman, 40 and the milestoneitself and just how great 40 is.
And we're just talking aboutthis.
I have Debbie Kinney who is inLas Vegas, right, and you change
(00:30):
your career from working incorporate America, as they call
it, with amazing sale records.
I see you have, as they say,quite the resume.
So right, you know.
So you're a goals coach is whatyou say.
Hello, coaching is yourbusiness name.
Thank you so much for makingthe time to join me here on zoom
(00:54):
.
So what made you decide tochange careers in your forties?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my gosh.
Well, thank you for having me.
I'm so excited about this topic.
It's just I tell everyonethat's coming into their forties
.
They're like, oh, I'm turning40 this year.
I'm like it is the best decade,like run into this decade, it's
amazing.
So I switched from corporatehospitality 25 plus years in
meetings, events, sales intogoals, coaching at the age of 45
(01:22):
, because I wanted morefulfillment.
I wanted to feel like what Iwas doing was having an impact
on the people I was working with, and not that events aren't
meaningful or impactful, but Iwas searching for a little bit
deeper With events.
They remember key moments andthings, but I really wanted that
connectivity with individualsand also being in events.
(01:47):
I was working a lot of hoursand I'm raising a son, I have a
wife and I wanted to devote moretime to my family, so something
had to give.
So I said you know what?
It's time to make a switch.
And the pandemic hit and I wasapproached about coaching and I
said you know what, let me tryit.
And about six months in, I kindof did as a side hustle, just
(02:08):
to see about six months in, Iwas like in my office running
the numbers and I was like holdon.
I called my husband.
I said I think I can do thisfull time, but like, please
double check my math, make sureI carried the one and all the
things.
And he was like, yeah, let's dothis.
So I left corporate America andstarted my business and it's
(02:28):
been absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, it sounds like it is.
I've seen.
Like you know, InternationalWomen's Day just passed, like a
few days ago.
You know, social media is howwe've connected thanks to
Facebook, and you know, I see onInstagram that you had this
nice little message from womenwho are celebrating
International Women's Day.
(02:51):
Are those some of your clients?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's clients, that's friends, that's
colleagues, that's businesspartners.
I still, you know, I tried toleave events, but I just can't.
It's in my DNA.
So, as part of my business, Istill produce events.
I do golfing events, I do spaevents, networking events, and
so a lot of those photos werefrom those.
But it was just.
It was just a collection of allthe women in my life who I'm so
(03:15):
, so, very grateful for becausethey inspire me and help me to
become the best version ofmyself every day.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, so, um, you know, what did you study in
school?
How, like how, how did Debbieget to here?
And now you know, like, yes, Imean that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh my gosh, that's so many moons ago.
I was a communication majorwhich is great.
Yeah, it's a broad topic andthen I minored in history of the
Holocaust, so not applicable.
Oh my gosh, I can't say the wordapplicable whatsoever to what I
do today, but I am fascinatedby it.
And then I went on to getspecialty like certificates and
(03:55):
credentials within my field ofwork, both in event planning and
then also now in coaching.
So I've continued my education.
I'm a lifelong learner, but,yeah, communications was the
basis for everything.
Yeah, I know, continued myeducation.
I'm a lifelong learner, but,yeah, communications was the
basis for everything.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I know communication is important.
I mean, it's the heart foreverything, like you know, when
you communicate with clients andcustomers and you definitely in
event planning, that's to awhole all of that.
So when you were in corporateAmerica and you said you were
working long hours, were youworking for a business Like?
(04:28):
What business were you workingin?
I know a lot of it was salesdriven, obviously, but when you
were in that industry, what wasthat like?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So I worked for various types of companies.
I worked for a Six Flags themepark, I worked for a convention
and visitors bureau, I workedfor hotels, caterers,
restaurants, destinationmanagement companies, so
nonprofits.
So I had a really wide array ofexperiences, all under the
umbrella of meeting and eventplanning.
(04:58):
But if you think about meetingsand events, they're typically
nights and weekends and so youknow you're working your.
They say nine to five.
It's never nine to five, it'smore like six to 10.
And then you know, outside ofthose cause, you know clients
have questions and you know partof that expectation in the
service industry is availability, and that was that ended up
(05:21):
being a problem for me.
That was like a boundary issue.
I'd get home after a long dayand be cooking dinner for my
family and my phone would beblowing up, it's like but I've
got a crying baby over here andI've got a crying lion over here
.
What do I do?
And then you work your nine tofive.
And then you have your actualevents that you're producing and
you're setting up and you'reattending the event and you're
(05:42):
breaking down.
And so it was, you know, 60plus hour weeks sometimes, and
it's.
You know, we're we're much,much more aware now about mental
health and burnout and thingslike that.
Back in the day it was justlike that's the job, do it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You have to figure it out.
I know it's crazy.
I think, like you said, covidkind of made us rejig or rethink
everything or make a differentplan, because, yeah, this is
when I started podcasting, moreseriously too, like the idea
came years ago, but I justdidn't make a plan, do a
business plan and all that.
(06:17):
And so hearing you talk aboutthat too, it makes me remember,
like you know, five years agojust had opportunity to change
the way that things were goingfor us, and so it looks like it
was a good change for you.
Definitely Right, 100% was yes,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm literally like I pinched myself.
I'm grateful every day,literally living my best life.
It's, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Because we're talking about, you know, that milestone
birthday or, you know, from theage of 40 to 49, and just being
a woman in the in this life, inthis lifetime at that, where
our bodies are changing andeverything's happening, and I
feel like it's.
It's kind of like you're allcomfortable in your own skin now
(07:03):
.
So what do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh, 100%, absolutely Well and it's interesting
because, as I shared with youbefore, you know, when I read
about your podcast, Iimmediately am just so excited
to talk to you because I think40s is the best decade.
I'm, whatever nine months shyof 50 or seven months shy of 50.
So I'll let you know when I getthere, but as of right now, 40s
(07:31):
wins, so I'm super passionateabout that.
However, in addition, most ofmy clients are in their 40s to
60s and because I coach in thearea of health and fitness, as
well as lifestyle habits andbusiness, when you, when you
look at health and fitness toyour point, our bodies are
changing and we feel like, isthis even our body?
Do we settle?
For me?
When I was 45 and I changedcareers, I also went through a
(07:52):
physical transformation,completely changed the way I ate
, completely changed my workoutsand ended up losing 26 pounds
and 17% body fat.
I got rid of all the chronicpain I had a back injury, got
rid of that.
So I'm in literally the bestshape mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually of mylife at 49.
(08:14):
And I think when we wereyounger, you almost looked at
40s is like, oh, that's so old,like life you know is over and
you just kind of ride thathamster wheel and for me it's
like no, this is a whole newlife, a whole second chance to
like really, as you said, likebe comfortable in my own skin
and own my identity and like putit out there, just encourage
(08:34):
others to do the same.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, and so you said a lot of your clients are in
that age, and I think today Ihad a discussion with another
entrepreneur and I think thereis so much that we don't talk
about as women, about, like youknow, our hormone levels,
perimenopause.
There's so much things that I'mlearning on my own, like having
(08:59):
to, like you said, you have tochange your diet because of all
the health concerns that we aswomen in this category deal with
.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
and so, as someone who's working with people on
their health, what, what are ourstruggles that you've noticed,
you know oh my gosh, so manystruggles internally in terms of
like, relating to ourselves,like how do we do all the things
?
How are we moms and wives andcareer women's, and so you know
just that that identity piece.
Physically, our bodies arechanging, typically especially
(09:31):
in the midsection.
We're we're getting belly fat,we're feeling bloated, our
clothes aren't fitting the waywe want them to.
You know, we maybe don't feelas sexy to our husband or as
sexy to ourselves or our partner, and so there's a lot of
changes that are that arehappening emotionally with our
hormones.
It's, you know, a whole, it's awhole roller coaster.
So there's an even just withmental health, because as your,
(09:55):
as your emotions and yourhormones fluctuate, your mental
health can actually suffer.
So one of the first things thatI do with my clients is I have
them not only, you know, get onthe scale.
I'm a big data nerd, you knowwe work with the scale.
I have them do photos, I havethem do measurements, I have
them do body fat percentage.
Body fat percentage is actuallythe number one indicator of
(10:18):
where your health lies in termsof potential risk for disease.
That adipose fatty tissue is abig indicator.
So we take all of those.
I also with my women.
Adipose fatty tissue is is abig indicator.
So we take all of those.
I also with my women.
I do have them go to a doctorand get a blood test.
I want to check them fordeficiencies.
I want to check them forhormonal levels, because you can
(10:38):
change all the things in yourdiet but if your hormone levels
are off and you need medicationto rebalance those, it doesn't
matter how many sticks of celeryyou eat.
You have to get some outsidehelp.
So I do encourage them.
I work in tandem with themedical system because nutrition
is a big piece of it, but itisn't always all of it.
(10:59):
I worked with a client back inthe fall who was having massive
hormonal fluctuations and I'm sothankful that she agreed when
we started working together togo get her blood tests done
because it was it was dangerouslike she's had to have some,
some procedures done to thatextent and that's not to, you
know, scare.
That was an extreme situationbut it's so good to.
(11:21):
That's part of health andwellness.
Right is getting thoseevaluations annually and making
sure that you're ahead of it.
You You're being proactive withyour health, not reactive.
That's.
That's really my point.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So you talk about hormone levels, so can you get a
test for that?
I think this is like the secondyou're the second person to
talk about hormone and I thinkthere is this thing where that's
not something you necessarilycheck, like check your, your
iron and your vitamin levelsthing you necessarily check,
like check your, your iron andyour vitamin levels.
You know, I notice like hereand in canada you don't get as
much sun in the wintertime soI've had to up my vitamin d and
(11:56):
and so hormones is thatsomething that you can't like?
What are you checking when you,when you help your clients,
what are you asking them interms of blood work?
What do you ask them to?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
check, I ask them to go to their doctor and work with
their doctor.
I don't, I'm a, I'm a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't prescribe you know, yeah, not in that sense,
but I meant, like you said,blood work, like general blood
work is like it's just yourcheckup right, check cholesterol
, those things, but yeah, and,like you said, some doctors will
go deeper.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Deeper they'll check thyroid levels, like I get a
blood test every three monthsand it's checking, like my
vitamin and mineral checking, my, you know, oxygen, um,
oxygenation, and so you can goas deep or as surface as you
want, but the main thing is todo it regularly, to be proactive
, not reactive, and to watch thetrends over time.
(12:46):
So I go every three months andmy vitamin B level I've been
taking massive doses of vitaminB.
It's not moving.
So we had to take a differentcourse of action because it
wasn't alarming in and of itselfin the test, but because it's
not moving over time and I'msupplementing massively, it's
like, okay, what's going on.
So those are the types ofthings that I can work with
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clients and the medical systemto to watch those patterns and
to give accountability for andto make a plan for it so that
that health and wellness piecedoes get covered off on.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, you're pinpointing the important things
too, because I think for, likeme, like many black women suffer
with like low iron and I'manemic, and I've been like this
since I was a kid and I think,well, there was at one point
where my iron level was so lowand they had to do other tests,
because it's not like I wasn'ttaking my supplements and eating
(13:43):
.
But once you figure it out,it's like wow, it has to do with
family history too.
Once you figure it out, it'slike wow, it has to do with
family history too.
And knowing that and had Iknown before, I probably would
have done a regular test becauseit was just like wow.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now we're in that situation where you're in dire
straits and you have to make aradical change, right, and so
and if you're deficient insomething like iron, it can
impact other systems in yourbody and so now it's not just
the iron but it's, you know, ahost of other issues caused by
the deficiency.
And so you know, trying to getahead of that and knowing some
(14:18):
people just run at a certainlevel For me.
I've had an autoimmune diseasesince I was in fourth grade and
I'm on medication now and youknow again, I'm 49.
So it's been a long time andI'm on medication now and have
you know again, I'm 49.
So it's been a long time.
But this medication, typicallyit has some obviously side
effects, like it impacts yourbone density, things like that.
I run on a very, very high doseof it.
(14:41):
But my doctor knows me wellenough to know you operate
really well when you're on thishigh dose.
So what might be kind of toohigh for someone else, you
handle it really well.
So we're going to keep youthere.
But that's the importance ofgoing regularly, regularly to
make sure that it's allmonitored and not causing other
side effects.
So yeah, it's just it's knowingwhat your levels are and making
(15:02):
sure you've got that patternestablished so you can just
watch for trends and any changes.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Diva Tonight glamour for your ears.
This is 40, a femaleperspective.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, it's so important, like you said and we
were talking about I think it'svery important, like when you're
considering getting a coach.
I think a lot of people don'tthink it's important to have a
coach and to help you facilitatebecause, like, we have to
manage so much and so you weresaying with your, with what you
(15:33):
do, like we're talking abouthealth, but life coaching, do
life coaching, business andpersonal but you say they all,
they all intermingle with eachother.
So why is it important to youfeel, as a coach yourself, that
you have to look at everythingas a whole, absolutely,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well, for the people that think like, oh, I don't
need a coach, or you know,coaching is a waste of money, or
a coach can't help me, I saylook at the top athletes, the
top business people, topcelebrities they all have
coaches.
They are at the top of theirgame and they still have someone
coaching them.
Because that outsideperspective you know, as our own
(16:14):
little human bodies, we're tooclose to a lot of the issues
that can really take us to thatnext level.
So having that outsideperspective is so helpful.
The reason I coach under theumbrella of goals coaching in
health and fitness and lifestyleand business is because those
four areas are like the fourwheels on four tires on a car,
(16:37):
so if one goes flat, the otherthree are working a lot harder.
Or if you're doing really wellin one area, the other areas
might be, you know, pulling backa little bit, and so I try to
really help people stay movingforward, keep that momentum
staying integrated.
I don't really believe in theword balance, because I that
implies like 50, 50, right, likework-life balance, like
(17:01):
sometimes you're going to beworking harder because you got a
deadline, or you're trying toland a client and sometimes
you're going to be on vacationwith your family and you're
going to be working harderbecause you got a deadline.
Or you're trying to land aclient and sometimes you're
going to be on vacation withyour family and you're going to
be kicking your heels up on abeach with a pina colada.
It's about integration andfinding that your own sense of
balance for you.
But that's why I chose thosefour areas, because those,
typically, if you're reallykilling it in the gym, you're
probably doing really reallywell at work because you're
(17:21):
feeling good.
You're feeling good, you'reeating well, you're meeting with
clients, so we want to makethose so that they're as
integrated as possible, and sothat's why I coach those areas.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, and so when you say that it's like if one area
in your life is suffering, thenother areas start suffering,
exactly, yes, the opposite isalso true, yeah, and so it lifts
all ships Right.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But it is also true, yeah, and so it lifts all ships
right.
But then if you've got one tire, it also pulls on the other, um
can, can harm your car.
So you gotta, you gotta, findthat integration I.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I feel like you know it's a habit to.
How do you change a habit likefor me?
I'm a night owl and and becauseI'm, the work I do is shift
work, so sometimes I'm opening,sometimes I'm closing, and the.
I got myself in a bad habitwhere I have to now force myself
to try and go to bed earlierevery night because if I don't,
(18:15):
I I will stay up later than Ishould.
Right, and sleep is soimportant with everything, right
, and so, as a coach, how do youhelp your clients change the
habit Like the?
You know the bad habits.
It's hard, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's really hard.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And implementing the good habits is hard too.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
We're easy we all be walking around with like
supermodels like billionairesyou know like no.
So what I do?
I use this system.
I call it the bid system.
It's called breaking it down.
I, literally right before youand I started talking, I just
got off the Zoom with a brandnew client.
She's feeling really stuck inher business, unmotivated to the
point where she doesn't evenwant to get out of her robe and
leave her house unmotivated.
(18:54):
So she's got a goal.
So we talked about her big goal, which is a dollar amount, and
I said, okay, let's break thatdown to get to this dollar
amount a month.
What are the bare minimum stepsthat you can take every single
day to get you to that end goal?
It's doing the least amount ofwork, as you know, making it as
(19:15):
unpainful if that's a word aspossible.
But the secret formula is doingthe work plus consistency, plus
time.
That equals the results.
So we devised a plan for herwe're just going into month one
where she's going to do threethings every single day, just
three things.
And they're not crazy.
(19:35):
It's like five client check-insa day.
It's like being in the officefor a set number of hours a day.
They're not crazy, they're notunrealistic.
But as she starts to buildthose patterns and those habits
and she starts to see theresults.
The momentum will build andthat's how we start to build
even bigger habits and then wecan just layer on top of them.
But to answer your question,it's it's find the smallest step
(19:57):
that you can take towards yourgoal, implement it, implement it
consistently and then build ontop of that Right right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, my goodness, that is so important because it's
like I think a lot of us canrelate to that client where some
days you just don't want to getout of bed, like you have to,
like you're forcing yourself andtrying to find the motivation,
because I think, more so nowthere's more mental health
concerns than before.
There's things, like you know,various issues that people deal
(20:29):
with that you know it's kind oflike unspoken thing, but I mean
I think we're becoming a societythat talks more about mental
health and I think with a coach,that helps too.
And so routine is very, veryimportant, I think, with mental
health, and COVID taught us that.
But when you're someone who'slike easily distracted you work
(20:52):
with clients like that.
You know what I mean Like yes,and so where do you start off
first?
Because I feel like we're kindof overwhelmed with, so it's
like information overload.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It is, it is, and that's why creating that
structure and that discipline issuper, super important.
So I have another new clientthat I'm working with.
She's about a week and a halfin.
She's got a weight loss goal,she's got some pre-diabetic,
pre-high cholesterol numberscoming back from her doctor.
But we're not going to say likenever eat red meat again and go
(21:24):
eat kale six times a day.
That's not realistic orsustainable.
So we set her three goals forthe first week and a half, two
weeks, of us working togetherand it's we're going to drink a
set number of ounces of water,we're going to eat dinner at
home four nights a week insteadof zero or one nights a week.
You know like it's starting tojust make these little lifestyle
(21:47):
changes that will then againstart to build the momentum.
You start to see the results.
Me, as a coach, I add thataccountability.
So when we feel that overwhelmof like oh, there's just this
huge goal out there and I don'tknow where to start or what to
do, I'm helping to sort of likespoon feed the steps, layer by
layer by layer.
But you just have to startsomewhere, somewhere small, with
(22:10):
something that is like oh yeah,I can call five clients a day,
I can drink 64 ounces of water aday Like this.
Isn't rocket science, right?
And then, as you start torealize those small wins, your
confidence builds, you start totrust yourself more and you're
like, ok, I can do more.
your confidence builds, youstart to trust yourself more and
you're like okay, I can do more.
I can eat kale twice a day now,and I can cut down red meat
(22:31):
once a month, or whatever thatlooks like.
So that's where we start with.
The overwhelm is just makingreally, really small changes.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, since you're talking about clients, so if I
was your client and you know alittle bit about me now, I said
I'm, and you know, working onthe diet thing because eating
more lentils, rice and more redmeat, because that's where I'm
lacking, right.
So I guess what would yourpointers be for for me to that?
Because what I was strugglingwith was keeping my iron at a
(23:00):
certain pace, and now I'veactually my last checkup.
It had improved immensely.
So I have to keep that goingright and not fall off the
beaten path, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so I mean it's.
that's why I say start small isbecause when you get those,
those small wins, then you canbuild on top of them.
If you try to just go like, gofor the gold right out of the
gates, it's really hard tosustain them.
It's like all these things thatyou have to do on top of what
you're already doing.
So if you can pick one or twoor three healthy things that you
(23:32):
can do, like I want to eat morecomplex carbohydrates versus
simple carbohydrates, I want todrink more water.
I want to eat more lean protein, not fatty protein.
I want to incorporate morelegumes into my diet, those
small steps versus saying, likeyou know, I'm never going gonna
have fast food again, or youknow like all or nothing.
So to make it sustainable, it'sjust creating those one, two or
(23:53):
three goals that you keep withday after day and then you build
on top of that.
Does that answer?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
that question.
Yeah, it does.
It does.
I think it's, like you said,small, for which is what I work
towards and definitely have tostart again.
You know what I mean, becausesometimes it's like this week
and then the week where you knowdoing with like pain, back pain
and, like you know, not feelingthe greatest Right, and so the
one part of you know being 40,I'm still doing, like you know
(24:22):
I'm not at that part yet, butlike you know what I mean the
menstrual cycle that we all haveto deal with, like once a month
, you know, and that's the partwhere, at this age in life, it's
more painful.
You know.
So, but, yeah, I think what Iwant to say is if you work, you
work with clients from various,not just in the U S.
(24:43):
Yes, so if someone isinterested in working with you,
what's the best way?
Do people contact you on yourInstagram, on your website?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Website is the best place because it's kind of the
one-stop portal that takes youto all my social media and all
the places, my email, all ofthat, so it's hellocoachinginfo.
Is my website address and fromthere you can connect with me
and there's all sorts of likefree resources and tools and
(25:13):
articles on that site.
But it will also connect you toInstagram, facebook, linkedin
all the all the things.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, that's amazing and you know it's.
It's important that you shareyour story and I think the one
thing I didn't talk about or askyou about family life and how
your son is older and, you know,been married for a while, and
so, at this part of your life,what is the one thing that you
can say to any woman in theirforties, at this stage of their
(25:39):
life, you know, or if they'returning 40, what would your your
message?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think, um, I would touch on what I tell people
every time they tell me like, oh, I'm turning 40.
I'm, like, I'm so scared ofthis.
Like, you know, turning thiscorner it's midlife and I just I
tell them it's the best decadeyet.
Like, it is not old, Life isnot over.
Like, if anything, it's a brandnew chapter to reinvent
yourself and to really go afteryour dreams.
(26:03):
You know yourself better.
You've been in your body for 40years.
Like, you know what you want,who you are, what your values
are.
That's the time to embrace thatand go after it.
Typically in our 40s we're moreestablished, career, wise,
financially, so we have a littlebit of a cushion to be able to
say like, oh, I want to start aside hustle.
Or oh, I really want to trainfor a marathon or a Spartan race
(26:26):
or meet my.
You know the love of my lifeand I would my time to really
connecting with a partner, andso that's.
My message is like, this isjust the beginning of a new
chapter.
It's the.
It's the best decade.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And even if, like you , aren't like financially where
you want to be like, what do yousay to that, to to those women
you know as well?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's not too late.
I mean, I am.
I'm living proof.
I was in corporate america, soit's you know, set payday and
out on my own.
Now I'm making better moneythan I've and I have more
financial and time freedom thanI ever had in corporate america,
and that's one of the reasons Idecided when I started coaching
I didn't coach businesscoaching, but I'm an
award-winning businessstrategist, I love sales and
(27:08):
marketing, and so so I was likeyou know what?
I've built my business and Iwant to pay it forward.
I want to help other people dothe same.
So, yeah, even if you're notwhere you want to be financially
which I wasn't at 45, I wasliving paycheck to paycheck.
We were traveling once a yearas a family.
We wanted to take a vacation.
Now we travel like 3, four,five, six times a year.
It's not too late.
(27:29):
You can always build a bigger,brighter, better future.
Bigger, brighter, betterversion of you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, that's so important, I think.
I think it's.
You know, we've been taughtthat yeah, your degree, and then
you're going to find a job and,like you know, the goal is to
work and make that paycheck.
And entrepreneurship is notsomething for everyone, but I
think there's just some of usthat realize that we want to do
(27:57):
more with our time and it's soimportant.
And so, as a coach and someonewho has a very experienced
business background in sales, Ithink that goes to say that
probably helps you to whatyou're doing.
But if someone wants totransition, right, what do you,
what do you say to them?
Because I think it's hard inyour mind to start off and it's
(28:19):
that push, and so I feel likeyou're that person to advocate
for for a few years, many yearsnow.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right, yeah, I mean, I think we're all in sales on
some level, like we're allselling ourselves all the time,
no matter, you know whetherwe're selling.
You know a cup or whatever likewe're, we're always all in sales
.
But from a transitionstandpoint, I say look at what
you want to be doing and look atwhat you're currently doing and
what skillsets are transferable.
(28:49):
So, for example, in eventplanning there was always like
this overarching end goal, thisend vision of what we wanted the
event to look like and feellike and be like.
The same thing goes forcoaching and whether that's a
weight loss goal, a muscle gaingoal, a business goal, we all
have this end vision, this dreamin mind.
So we just reverse, engineerthe steps to get there.
(29:11):
It's the same thing I was doingin event plan.
All the events were totallytransferable.
It's just under a differentumbrella and that's.
I'm not a unicorn in that right, Like that's for anybody out
there.
Look at what you're doing, Lookat what you want to do, Find
the skills that are transferableand go for it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No, that's some great advice, and I want to thank you
for sharing your process andyour journey.
I'm Carlene and this is DivaTonight with Debbie Kinney in
Las Vegas.
Oh my gosh, I haven't been inso long, but I love it.
Yeah, definitely.
So thank you again for sharing,thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Diva Tonight with Carlene will will be back.
Send us a message on instagramat diva underscore tonight.
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