December 14, 2024 • 15 mins
Ever wondered how to juggle a thriving career, family life, and a love for travel, all while maintaining your sanity in your 40s? Join us as we navigate this exhilarating journey, sharing insights on how to pursue your passion for travel without compromising on professional growth or personal responsibilities. From attending work events without a laptop to embracing the freedom that comes with delegation, we explore the art of balancing life's demands. You'll hear firsthand accounts about the joy of traveling with kids and the significance of prioritizing health to keep burnout at bay.
We also dive into the rollercoaster of family, finances, and parenthood, capturing the essence of turning 40 with humor and heart. Discover the lifelong impact of early money management lessons and the cultural backdrop that shapes our aspirations, like the iconic Sex and the City. Parenthood comes with its own set of challenges, and we open up about the triumphs and trials of raising teenagers. Plus, there's a lively discussion on tackling skincare woes during COVID and the rewarding realm of social media marketing. With a teaser for the upcoming season of "Diva Tonight with Carlene," this episode is packed with wisdom, laughter, and a few beauty tips to boot!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
diva tonight.
Glamour for your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This is 40 a female perspective with carlene
humphrey so you were talkingbefore about traveling, right,
how you want to travel more,right yep just want to be true
to me and that's what makes meand side note so like my husband
doesn't love to travel thatmuch.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So, I go without him.
So I'm actually going thisweekend.
I'm going with my one kid, andthat will segue us to parenting,
but I'm taking my 15 year oldto Boston for four days.
For four days, I took my 12year old to New York in
(00:50):
September, and, yeah, I'm justtrying to do that because that's
what I like to do.
The hard thing with real estate, though, is going away, so part
of my plan to travel has beenfiguring out a system that works
in my business that allows meto travel.
So I remember, right beforeCOVID, we went to Orlando.
After Christmas.
(01:11):
And I remember distinctlybecause I was with other family
and I brought my laptop to thepool.
And I remember the other familymember who's also in business.
So I fully appreciated hiscomment.
But he said to me what are youdoing?
Like you're on vacation, why doyou have your laptop?
And I was just like do notunderstand what I do, like I
(01:32):
have to, I have to, I have to,and it took me way too long to
realize.
No, you don't like just figureit out.
So I figured it out I havethree assistants.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh, that's what I was going to ask, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, and that doesn't mean that I work less.
In fact, my husband always sayswhenever cause I'm really good
at like building in systems andhe says, every time you find an
efficiency that frees up time,you fill it.
So I just fill it withdifferent tasks.
So that's been the one growthAlso in my 40s to realize that
(02:06):
like I don't have to do everysingle task.
Delegating is my weakness andI've learned that like just
delegate.
So now my big thing is I justwent away for a week in October
for a Remax event.
So that's where it's work.
But it's also like an amazingway to travel Because again,
it's part of my identity.
(02:27):
So like I'm with my Remaxpeople and it was the elite
group, so it's like top agentsand then you're in California,
together, networking and justtalking.
But I went away for the veryfirst time with no device for a
week.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So that to me is a success.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No device you weren't plugged in, you didn't check
anything.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Oh, you meant for work.
I had my phone of course youmeant for work.
No, no but like I had my phone,but I didn't bring a computer.
I didn't bring work.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that's what I meant.
You didn't bring work.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely wasworking the entire time you were
still.
I have people, so I have thisthing called whatsapp and I have
then.
You can't turn it off, you justpretty, you pretty much like
you cannot not check your emailoh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So remember, rewind, it's my identity, right?
So it's who I am.
It's like I live, breathe, likeI'm always on, but I need to be
able to go away and just yeah,like that, like that so Corinne
is like I am, I'm plugged in,like literally plugged in.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, it's, but it's part of who you are actually.
That's why you're.
Because of that, I haven't beenable.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
because of that, I haven't been able to go on a
cruise in a long time becauseit's really hard.
But now it's all different.
Like now, you can just pay forunlimited wi-Fi on a boat.
So I'm finally going.
Oh my God, yeah, I just can't.
It's not possible.
It's not possible to disconnectAlthough I shouldn't say that
because I was at this eliteevent and I talked to other
agents who actually dodisconnect.
(04:00):
They have two phones and, likethey leave their work phone with
their office disconnect notthere.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's your thing of the past, you know, yeah, yeah,
no, it's not and I don't want tolike.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's the thing is.
I don't want to, yeah.
So yeah, travel is reallyimportant to me and like and and
so that's like.
My thing in the 40s is likethat's what matters to me.
That's what I'm gonna do.
Um, learning how to grow likebe mindful of things that hold
me back.
That's what I'm going to do.
Learning how to grow like bemindful of things that hold me
back.
That's a big 40s thing.
Like delegating better, likenot banking things for the
(04:31):
future.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's been a big thing, and just like feeling
like we haven't gotten into theother topic, like you want to
talk about being a parent, butlet's go back to the where we
are and what's happening.
I'm Carlene and this is DivaTonight.
I haven't recorded an episodein like two years.
That's how long it's been.
It's crazy, you know what?
(04:54):
I got sick.
I remember getting sick andthen it took me a while to
recover.
Like I got like really badcough.
It lasted six weeks and I thinkI just was focusing on work
because it was like I recorded70 episodes nonstop.
It was like back to back toback and yeah, it was hard for
(05:15):
me like to take it Like I don'tknow, I don't think it was
planned for me to go that longabout doing the show, but I
think it's one of those thingswhere a lot was happening in
terms of like work.
What I wanted to do, like thepodcast is great, as as like my
passion, but it's not paying mybills and so I had to put it on
(05:37):
hold.
I think in the interim Iprobably only saw it as a few
months, but it went a lot longer.
Like diva tonight is part ofthe entity like there's two
shows.
So this is my baby and notmagnation has been like my focal
point for the last year, so Iwas doing both at the same time.
(05:57):
It's a little bit much.
So, high achievers, you knowhard, yeah, no, this is yeah,
yeah, you know, but no, I, myfriend, I think this whole 40,
the milestone itself and, likeus as women, you know turning 40
, I think there's something tobe said about it.
Right, like you said a lot ofthings about yourself, like and
(06:21):
saving, and you know, I don'tthink I've never been good at
saving, but I think it isimportant to save, it's
important to have a good creditscore.
There's a lot of things thathold you back when your finances
are not where they should be.
It really, it really doeshinder you your experience in
life and what you're able to getwithout it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you know, and like we're not, like I don't know if
your parents taught you likeabout finances or if they helped
you save Um actually I don'tknow about being taught so much,
but when I was 12, my mommarched me to the bank and
opened a youth account for me.
And I don't know if it wasreally her it must her and or
(07:06):
just my personality that Iremember just like scraping like
quarters and dimes and gettingall excited and then walking by
myself to the bank and Iremember that I put coins in a
envelope and shoved it in themachine and I didn't realize
until I was older that you don'tdo that, like it's for bills,
(07:27):
it's not for coins.
But like I was like, okay, likeI have this and now this is mine
, and since I was 12, I wouldbabysit at 13 years old, which
is so crazy I would never don'ttell my kids but like I wouldn't
even trust my any of them tobabysit.
But and then I would like goand seriously, I put coins in
the machine.
So I think my mom facilitatedthat because it was like
(07:49):
important for her, as soon as Icould, to have a bank account.
And then it was probablyprobably my upbringing, but like
a lot my personality, that Iwas like, okay, let's go, like
let's save, save, save.
So yeah, I think it's a mixtureof both and, yeah, I think I
did have some family.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I didn't even open in a bank account till I
was 16.
And it was my decision.
I'm like no, open the account.
I want my money in a separateaccount because your first job
was babysitting, mine wasdelivering flyers.
I had a paper route at 13.
Boy, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So where was the money going?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, where was the mom mom's account?
Yeah, that's why I was like no,I want my own account.
This is my job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah it'sreally an important lesson.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Like you have to feel the work and then see the
numbers and realize like I justspent the whole night with these
kids snotty kids just to have30 bucks in my account.
Like this, 30 bucks reallymatters to me.
I'm not going to go and spendit on Gucci or what did you call
brisket?
What?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
did you call it Birkin?
It's a Birkin.
Now, after this, you're goingto go and look up what a Birkin
is and you'll be like it's likea red, it comes in.
I think the Birkin is, andyou'll be like it's like a red,
it comes in.
I think the Birkin is known forthe red.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's red and it's, but anyway, so we have, we have
to get right to the meat andpotatoes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you're a mom, oh yeah, oh, you see what the
Birkin is.
I can't even see that.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, see, you see that pricetag there, samantha, finally
Forty says 42 000 so I was wrongwith the price.
I didn't remember I don't know.
It was like on an episode ofsex in the city and, like
samantha I think, she rented it.
(09:37):
She didn't pay the full price,or someone.
Yeah, she was able to rent itand then I think it was like a
big deal when she was finallyable to buy one.
I don't know.
But, yeah, from Sex and the Citywith the whole.
Like I mean, yeah, I never gotinto the show when it was like
trending, but I watched it afterand, like you, you learn a few
(09:59):
things from New York Citylifestyle.
Like, ok, I'll try.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think it doesn't suit me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm the same way.
I think my purse is an Aldopurse.
I've had it for a few years andthen I bought this other one.
I'm like, oh, I'm trying to bemore feminine because I'm a Tom
girl, like I've always been like.
If I could wear jeans and at-shirt every day, I would you
know but don't.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So.
A 40s thing is like own it,like that's who I am, that's who
I am, you know, and like belike yeah but you know, guys,
guys don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
They sometimes find that intimidating, I think, when
you're like, you know, I thinkI'm intimidating yeah see, and
you're, you're in sales, sothere's something to be said
about that too, right, but somekey points.
So you have three, three kidsnow.
Two are like in their teenyears.
You said one's 15, girl 12,.
(10:57):
Girl 10, baby boy, your babyboy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And yeah.
So it's wild, right.
Like you have this baby thinglike a baby, and then you figure
out what to do with this babything and then it turns into
something else and you're like,okay, like let me figure this
part out.
And then by the time you figurethat out, it's something else.
So it's really hard, you know,and you don't want to screw it
up Cause you know, I told youbefore like this is really
(11:27):
important to me should be it'slike everything, and there's a
lot of room to make a lot ofmistakes.
It's you know.
So I think the other thing is,you know, not only is there a
lot of room to make mistakes,but also their growing up is so
different from when we grew upthat what was right for us isn't
(11:49):
necessarily what was right forthem.
So it's just hard to knowwhat's right and what's wrong.
And there's, you know, notextbook and no like OK chapter,
15 years old.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
This is what happens and this is what you there is
the textbook, though, like forwhen you get pregnant and your
mom in there.
It's like that one book that Iguess most people read, but it
doesn't.
There's no handbook with advice, and then there's different
ways.
That's like chapter zero, yeah,but there's different parenting
styles too.
Like you homeschool your kids.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You homeschool your kids too.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
There's different ways.
Chapter zero, yeah, but there'sdifferent parenting styles too.
Like you, home and there'sdifferent kids you homeschool
your kids I have three kids andthey're all different yeah,
there's this one thing, Ibelieve, like there's five of us
and I have four sisters andwe're all different, like two of
them got married at 24.
Never would have thought likethat would happen.
I was surprised.
(12:39):
I was like, oh, wow right, wowRight, and I'm the oldest, I'm
not, I'm not married.
And then my other sister, who'sthree years younger than me,
but we're all different in ourown way and like same household
and different experiences, andyeah, so all are different and I
(13:01):
we've had to teach them overthe years.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know it's not equality, it's equity.
So, like different kids needdifferent things and you have to
parent each one to facilitatetheir best self, and that's not
the same for every kid, so itmust be hard from their
perspective.
But from our perspective it'slike we love each one of them
and we want to do what's bestfor each one of them, and that's
not the same thing for allthree.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I feel like we haven't talked that much about
your husband, but we only havelike two minutes, so how long
have you been married?
Hold the mind.
Oh wait, I know this, this wasour 18th anniversary.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Wow, but we've been together for 30 years, so since
we were 13,.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's like a whole other episode right, we have to
do another one.
See, this is like a theory.
Yeah, we do, I will definitely.
We will definitely do that.
But to sum it up, like I'm notgoing to ask your age now, so
I'm 40, 43.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh you're 43.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Okay, and look at the skin.
Your skin's glow.
What's your skin routine, Karen?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh my gosh, somebody asked me the other day and I
just finished telling you thatI'm not a products person, but
it's a whole other.
I have so many long stories butI won't take up so much time
but I did post on Facebook oneday like oh my God, I've got
these like two horrible cysts.
It was cysts, no zits.
It was during COVID and I waswearing a mask, a lot, and like
I got these two horrible thingsand I posted about it because I
was desperate.
(14:21):
And then this one, lady Shana,she replied like sending you a
private message, and then she'swrote in and fields, which is a
product.
And so like that's what I do.
I like it because it's likenothing, like there's no smells,
because, again, like I'm not aproducts person, I'm not like a
sense person.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm not into that at all, but it's just whatever
every team.
So if anyone wants to work withyou, you're on all socials,
right, like if they just want towork with the mermaid they want
to buy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, instagram, um, I on Instagram, I have my
Corinnerotem and then I haveseparate for real estate at
Friday Harbor.
It's real estate at FridayHarbor.
But, yeah, anybody is able towork with me.
I do rentals, I do sales.
I have a lovely, lovely teamthat works really well together
(15:11):
with me and that was part oflike turning 40 and like really
understanding how to grow isfinding really good people, and
for me, the most important thingis like a really good soul and
people that are like me that way.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Diva Tonight with Carlene will be back.
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Send us a message on Instagramat diva underscore tonight.
diva tonight.
Glamour for your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This is 40 a female perspective with carlene
humphrey so you were talkingbefore about traveling, right,
how you want to travel more,right yep just want to be true
to me and that's what makes meand side note so like my husband
doesn't love to travel thatmuch.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So, I go without him.
So I'm actually going thisweekend.
I'm going with my one kid, andthat will segue us to parenting,
but I'm taking my 15 year oldto Boston for four days.
For four days, I took my 12year old to New York in
(00:50):
September, and, yeah, I'm justtrying to do that because that's
what I like to do.
The hard thing with real estate, though, is going away, so part
of my plan to travel has beenfiguring out a system that works
in my business that allows meto travel.
So I remember, right beforeCOVID, we went to Orlando.
After Christmas.
(01:11):
And I remember distinctlybecause I was with other family
and I brought my laptop to thepool.
And I remember the other familymember who's also in business.
So I fully appreciated hiscomment.
But he said to me what are youdoing?
Like you're on vacation, why doyou have your laptop?
And I was just like do notunderstand what I do, like I
(01:32):
have to, I have to, I have to,and it took me way too long to
realize.
No, you don't like just figureit out.
So I figured it out I havethree assistants.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh, that's what I was going to ask, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, and that doesn't mean that I work less.
In fact, my husband always sayswhenever cause I'm really good
at like building in systems andhe says, every time you find an
efficiency that frees up time,you fill it.
So I just fill it withdifferent tasks.
So that's been the one growthAlso in my 40s to realize that
(02:06):
like I don't have to do everysingle task.
Delegating is my weakness andI've learned that like just
delegate.
So now my big thing is I justwent away for a week in October
for a Remax event.
So that's where it's work.
But it's also like an amazingway to travel Because again,
it's part of my identity.
(02:27):
So like I'm with my Remaxpeople and it was the elite
group, so it's like top agentsand then you're in California,
together, networking and justtalking.
But I went away for the veryfirst time with no device for a
week.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So that to me is a success.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No device you weren't plugged in, you didn't check
anything.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Oh, you meant for work.
I had my phone of course youmeant for work.
No, no but like I had my phone,but I didn't bring a computer.
I didn't bring work.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that's what I meant.
You didn't bring work.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely wasworking the entire time you were
still.
I have people, so I have thisthing called whatsapp and I have
then.
You can't turn it off, you justpretty, you pretty much like
you cannot not check your emailoh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So remember, rewind, it's my identity, right?
So it's who I am.
It's like I live, breathe, likeI'm always on, but I need to be
able to go away and just yeah,like that, like that so Corinne
is like I am, I'm plugged in,like literally plugged in.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, it's, but it's part of who you are actually.
That's why you're.
Because of that, I haven't beenable.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
because of that, I haven't been able to go on a
cruise in a long time becauseit's really hard.
But now it's all different.
Like now, you can just pay forunlimited wi-Fi on a boat.
So I'm finally going.
Oh my God, yeah, I just can't.
It's not possible.
It's not possible to disconnectAlthough I shouldn't say that
because I was at this eliteevent and I talked to other
agents who actually dodisconnect.
(04:00):
They have two phones and, likethey leave their work phone with
their office disconnect notthere.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's your thing of the past, you know, yeah, yeah,
no, it's not and I don't want tolike.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's the thing is.
I don't want to, yeah.
So yeah, travel is reallyimportant to me and like and and
so that's like.
My thing in the 40s is likethat's what matters to me.
That's what I'm gonna do.
Um, learning how to grow likebe mindful of things that hold
me back.
That's what I'm going to do.
Learning how to grow like bemindful of things that hold me
back.
That's a big 40s thing.
Like delegating better, likenot banking things for the
(04:31):
future.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's been a big thing, and just like feeling
like we haven't gotten into theother topic, like you want to
talk about being a parent, butlet's go back to the where we
are and what's happening.
I'm Carlene and this is DivaTonight.
I haven't recorded an episodein like two years.
That's how long it's been.
It's crazy, you know what?
(04:54):
I got sick.
I remember getting sick andthen it took me a while to
recover.
Like I got like really badcough.
It lasted six weeks and I thinkI just was focusing on work
because it was like I recorded70 episodes nonstop.
It was like back to back toback and yeah, it was hard for
(05:15):
me like to take it Like I don'tknow, I don't think it was
planned for me to go that longabout doing the show, but I
think it's one of those thingswhere a lot was happening in
terms of like work.
What I wanted to do, like thepodcast is great, as as like my
passion, but it's not paying mybills and so I had to put it on
(05:37):
hold.
I think in the interim Iprobably only saw it as a few
months, but it went a lot longer.
Like diva tonight is part ofthe entity like there's two
shows.
So this is my baby and notmagnation has been like my focal
point for the last year, so Iwas doing both at the same time.
(05:57):
It's a little bit much.
So, high achievers, you knowhard, yeah, no, this is yeah,
yeah, you know, but no, I, myfriend, I think this whole 40,
the milestone itself and, likeus as women, you know turning 40
, I think there's something tobe said about it.
Right, like you said a lot ofthings about yourself, like and
(06:21):
saving, and you know, I don'tthink I've never been good at
saving, but I think it isimportant to save, it's
important to have a good creditscore.
There's a lot of things thathold you back when your finances
are not where they should be.
It really, it really doeshinder you your experience in
life and what you're able to getwithout it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you know, and like we're not, like I don't know if
your parents taught you likeabout finances or if they helped
you save Um actually I don'tknow about being taught so much,
but when I was 12, my mommarched me to the bank and
opened a youth account for me.
And I don't know if it wasreally her it must her and or
(07:06):
just my personality that Iremember just like scraping like
quarters and dimes and gettingall excited and then walking by
myself to the bank and Iremember that I put coins in a
envelope and shoved it in themachine and I didn't realize
until I was older that you don'tdo that, like it's for bills,
(07:27):
it's not for coins.
But like I was like, okay, likeI have this and now this is mine
, and since I was 12, I wouldbabysit at 13 years old, which
is so crazy I would never don'ttell my kids but like I wouldn't
even trust my any of them tobabysit.
But and then I would like goand seriously, I put coins in
the machine.
So I think my mom facilitatedthat because it was like
(07:49):
important for her, as soon as Icould, to have a bank account.
And then it was probablyprobably my upbringing, but like
a lot my personality, that Iwas like, okay, let's go, like
let's save, save, save.
So yeah, I think it's a mixtureof both and, yeah, I think I
did have some family.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I didn't even open in a bank account till I
was 16.
And it was my decision.
I'm like no, open the account.
I want my money in a separateaccount because your first job
was babysitting, mine wasdelivering flyers.
I had a paper route at 13.
Boy, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So where was the money going?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, where was the mom mom's account?
Yeah, that's why I was like no,I want my own account.
This is my job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah it'sreally an important lesson.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Like you have to feel the work and then see the
numbers and realize like I justspent the whole night with these
kids snotty kids just to have30 bucks in my account.
Like this, 30 bucks reallymatters to me.
I'm not going to go and spendit on Gucci or what did you call
brisket?
What?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
did you call it Birkin?
It's a Birkin.
Now, after this, you're goingto go and look up what a Birkin
is and you'll be like it's likea red, it comes in.
I think the Birkin is, andyou'll be like it's like a red,
it comes in.
I think the Birkin is known forthe red.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's red and it's, but anyway, so we have, we have
to get right to the meat andpotatoes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you're a mom, oh yeah, oh, you see what the
Birkin is.
I can't even see that.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, see, you see that pricetag there, samantha, finally
Forty says 42 000 so I was wrongwith the price.
I didn't remember I don't know.
It was like on an episode ofsex in the city and, like
samantha I think, she rented it.
(09:37):
She didn't pay the full price,or someone.
Yeah, she was able to rent itand then I think it was like a
big deal when she was finallyable to buy one.
I don't know.
But, yeah, from Sex and the Citywith the whole.
Like I mean, yeah, I never gotinto the show when it was like
trending, but I watched it afterand, like you, you learn a few
(09:59):
things from New York Citylifestyle.
Like, ok, I'll try.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think it doesn't suit me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm the same way.
I think my purse is an Aldopurse.
I've had it for a few years andthen I bought this other one.
I'm like, oh, I'm trying to bemore feminine because I'm a Tom
girl, like I've always been like.
If I could wear jeans and at-shirt every day, I would you
know but don't.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So.
A 40s thing is like own it,like that's who I am, that's who
I am, you know, and like belike yeah but you know, guys,
guys don't really.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
They sometimes find that intimidating, I think, when
you're like, you know, I thinkI'm intimidating yeah see, and
you're, you're in sales, sothere's something to be said
about that too, right, but somekey points.
So you have three, three kidsnow.
Two are like in their teenyears.
You said one's 15, girl 12,.
(10:57):
Girl 10, baby boy, your babyboy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And yeah.
So it's wild, right.
Like you have this baby thinglike a baby, and then you figure
out what to do with this babything and then it turns into
something else and you're like,okay, like let me figure this
part out.
And then by the time you figurethat out, it's something else.
So it's really hard, you know,and you don't want to screw it
up Cause you know, I told youbefore like this is really
(11:27):
important to me should be it'slike everything, and there's a
lot of room to make a lot ofmistakes.
It's you know.
So I think the other thing is,you know, not only is there a
lot of room to make mistakes,but also their growing up is so
different from when we grew upthat what was right for us isn't
(11:49):
necessarily what was right forthem.
So it's just hard to knowwhat's right and what's wrong.
And there's, you know, notextbook and no like OK chapter,
15 years old.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
This is what happens and this is what you there is
the textbook, though, like forwhen you get pregnant and your
mom in there.
It's like that one book that Iguess most people read, but it
doesn't.
There's no handbook with advice, and then there's different
ways.
That's like chapter zero, yeah,but there's different parenting
styles too.
Like you homeschool your kids.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You homeschool your kids too.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
There's different ways.
Chapter zero, yeah, but there'sdifferent parenting styles too.
Like you, home and there'sdifferent kids you homeschool
your kids I have three kids andthey're all different yeah,
there's this one thing, Ibelieve, like there's five of us
and I have four sisters andwe're all different, like two of
them got married at 24.
Never would have thought likethat would happen.
I was surprised.
(12:39):
I was like, oh, wow right, wowRight, and I'm the oldest, I'm
not, I'm not married.
And then my other sister, who'sthree years younger than me,
but we're all different in ourown way and like same household
and different experiences, andyeah, so all are different and I
(13:01):
we've had to teach them overthe years.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know it's not equality, it's equity.
So, like different kids needdifferent things and you have to
parent each one to facilitatetheir best self, and that's not
the same for every kid, so itmust be hard from their
perspective.
But from our perspective it'slike we love each one of them
and we want to do what's bestfor each one of them, and that's
not the same thing for allthree.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I feel like we haven't talked that much about
your husband, but we only havelike two minutes, so how long
have you been married?
Hold the mind.
Oh wait, I know this, this wasour 18th anniversary.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Wow, but we've been together for 30 years, so since
we were 13,.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's like a whole other episode right, we have to
do another one.
See, this is like a theory.
Yeah, we do, I will definitely.
We will definitely do that.
But to sum it up, like I'm notgoing to ask your age now, so
I'm 40, 43.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh you're 43.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Okay, and look at the skin.
Your skin's glow.
What's your skin routine, Karen?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh my gosh, somebody asked me the other day and I
just finished telling you thatI'm not a products person, but
it's a whole other.
I have so many long stories butI won't take up so much time
but I did post on Facebook oneday like oh my God, I've got
these like two horrible cysts.
It was cysts, no zits.
It was during COVID and I waswearing a mask, a lot, and like
I got these two horrible thingsand I posted about it because I
was desperate.
(14:21):
And then this one, lady Shana,she replied like sending you a
private message, and then she'swrote in and fields, which is a
product.
And so like that's what I do.
I like it because it's likenothing, like there's no smells,
because, again, like I'm not aproducts person, I'm not like a
sense person.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm not into that at all, but it's just whatever
every team.
So if anyone wants to work withyou, you're on all socials,
right, like if they just want towork with the mermaid they want
to buy.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, instagram, um, I on Instagram, I have my
Corinnerotem and then I haveseparate for real estate at
Friday Harbor.
It's real estate at FridayHarbor.
But, yeah, anybody is able towork with me.
I do rentals, I do sales.
I have a lovely, lovely teamthat works really well together
(15:11):
with me and that was part oflike turning 40 and like really
understanding how to grow isfinding really good people, and
for me, the most important thingis like a really good soul and
people that are like me that way.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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