June 10, 2025 • 53 mins
Washington, D.C. born/raised/residing recording artist, Gizwop, sits down with DJ Smallz for over 53 minutes, opening up about his past amongst a variety of topics. This interview was filmed on 5/14/25.
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Now, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
Man I don't want like ad libs. Cool.
You need them though. You need ad libs.
You need ad libs on a song. When it comes to your music,
your songs, do you have a strategy?
When it comes to your ad libs, No.
I ain't, I ain't really got no strategy.
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It's just like I just get in andjust flow whatever I have.
I feel that's what I that's whatI.
Do and be that as it may, do youhave a signature ad Lib by any
chance? No, not for real.
Not for real. Not a main ad Lib.
Not an ad Lib you use repetitively.
Probably like. And is there a meaning behind
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that when you implement that? Now when it comes to ad libs and
it comes to collaborating with other recording artists, have
you added your ad libs to another artist verse on the same
song? Nah.
What or my verse? Yes, when you're collaborating
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with an artist and they have their own verse.
Have you ever put your ad libs on their verse before?
Nah Nah Nah my man, Savage be doing my ad libs sometimes when
we do something I let Savage be doing.
Do you like that? Now, how does that work?
Do you ask him to do that? Does he just voluntarily do
that? No, he do.
He won't do it because he'd be like, but he'd be telling me do
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my ad libs, though, because, youknow, brother, I like no, he the
goat for real. So he he just be just doing them
jumps for me. Like like you got to do your own
ad libs, though. I'm going to do them for you.
When it comes to your catalog ofmusic, what's been your biggest
song so far? Like my general, yes, I'm going
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to say for real that war general.
They loving that war general. They loving that money and
murder too. They loving that money and
murder that war general. What about body?
Now, you named a variety of songs here.
Yeah. When it comes to any of these
songs you just mentioned, are there any unknown facts or
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stories in regards to any of these song titles you just
shared that's never been publicly mentioned before?
Could be in regards to creating these songs, recording these
songs or releasing these songs, no.
I'm just rapping. I'm just rapping.
Just curious there. OK, now when it comes to rapping
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and it comes to the stage name of yours, what's the correct way
to pronounce your stage name? Yes, what?
Do people mispronounce this? Sometimes somebody might call me
Jizz or some other little buddy.I just tell them to call me
whop. Can't pronounce the Giz?
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Just call me whop. I don't.
I don't take no offense to it ornot.
You know what I'm saying? They probably didn't understand
it for real. Now Speaking of understanding,
what is the meaning behind the stage name of yours?
Man, no, I ain't going to laugh,man.
I'm just, I was a young guy, right?
But I was going by my real name.You know how that go, man?
Like man, you need a nickname. So my man told me I'm a grumble.
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That man just said, man, we're going to name you Gizmo.
And I just, the savage threw thewhop on this.
So I just changed that from Giz to Giz whop.
You know how that go. And care to share the person
that initially started calling you Gizmo?
My man mook. My man mook.
We was young though. We was kids, man.
You say, man, you gotta stop warming by your, your real name.
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Yeah. Now, what about misspellings?
Do people misspell the stage name of yours?
It's really, it's really hard. It's really if you misspelled
Giz or something must be wrong. I don't know, I I can't misspell
Giz. Now, when it comes to the
spelling of your stage name, it's one phrase it's GIZWOP
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ain't. No doubt.
Why no space between maybe GIZ and WOP?
Why just one word 1 phrase there?
It's all together. Guess what?
Excuse me? Now just zooming out here, what
do you notice people do more when it comes to your stage
name? Mispronounce it or misspell it.
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I don't really be saying nobody misspelled my name.
They just say get they going to type giz WAP because they on the
phone, you know, you know what I'm saying.
And for those in the audience getting to know you here for the
very first time and it comes to social media, specifically
Instagram, care to share your screen name on that platform?
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My Instagram name Giz Wap 1 #1. Is there any meaning behind the
number one on this username of yours?
I'm the one and. When it comes to your bio here,
wanted to see if you could breakdown this phrase.
Long live the men with a red heart emoji.
That's what I'm living for, man.I lost a lot of brothers, man.
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I lost a lot of brothers. So it's like that's what I'm
living for, man. The men.
Long live the men. Now, do you want to shout any
people you lost in regards to this phrase here?
All my brothers, that's gone, man.
Long little job too, man. All right.
Now, someone's name that you brought up a couple times here,
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well, I'll save that question for later.
That's fine. OK, so I want to ask you this
now. We're going to dive a little bit
deeper with your background history here, the story of who
you are. OK, Now for those in the
audience getting to know you here for the very first time,
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care to share where you were born?
I was born in Washington DC, where the Southeast.
And care to share where you wereraised as well?
Does it get any more specific than that?
I was raised up 30 Same. Came from the South but I was
raised up. I'm raised up 30.
Same. And care to share where you
reside these days? 30 same.
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Now when it comes to your upbringing, being raised in that
area, specifically that 37 that you mentioned here, what was
that really like growing up in that area for you, you?
Know how I go man? The trenches.
You have me battle out of fitness.
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Now when it comes to that phrasethere that you just used the
trenches, for those in the audience that have heard this
phrase depicted in music, seen this phrase depicted in music
videos and those type of visuals, television, movies,
video games, things of that nature, but have never had a
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chance to experience any of thatin real life.
What were the trenches really like?
Man, it was fun. For real.
Just fun. It's a lot of fun for real, a
lot of fun. It ain't what people make it out
to be. It's a lot of fun though.
Now, Speaking of fun and growingup in that area, for you, what
was the top point during your upbringing in that environment?
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What was your highest point or most positive moment growing up
there? I ain't gonna lie.
It's a lot of them for real, like blowing up into music for
real. Just coming up from from being
from there just then blowing up into music because we got a lot
of stars from up that junk. So me blowing up, I'm like my it
was cool. Now let's talk about that
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history there. With that for a second, why or
how did you get into music from the very beginning?
Nah, I'm going to say I got intomusic like I was going to the
studio lonely, my man, I I was going to the studio, but I could
laugh and be like you need to get on the track.
I got on the track with A and then they like keep rapping, but
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I weren't really on no rap time for real and what not.
Then I go to the studio with Savage.
Savage threw me on the song, so it just like man, I might as
well just go ahead and take off with it.
Then I did my little single jump.
It did what it's supposed to do.So I'm like, man, why not?
Now, can you share these titles to any of these songs?
Here you're referencing the songwith No Savage and the single.
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Me and me and Savage did a song but we ain't never drop it
enough for real. So once we once we did that it
was like it was cool. Then I did a single that junk
called Active. It was cool that junk went up,
but I had went in for like a little five months.
It wasn't nothing, though. I had one there, but when I came
home, Savage, me and Savage did that critical.
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Then once that critical blew up,I'm like, I got to keep doing
it. Now Speaking of that time there
that you did. Yeah.
That five months, Is there anything else you want to
mention about that whole ordeal or question you weren't asked?
People want to know just about that.
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No, it wasn't. Not my first time over there
though, But it wasn't nothing over there wasn't nothing.
Just adapt to my environment. Care to share the charge you
were sentenced for back then? No, I wasn't just currently
pressed without license. And was that sentence the result
of a plea deal or something you lost in trial?
No, I was a plea deal. Plea deal for a shot.
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Now thinking back on plea deals,what's your opinion on those?
It depends on what plea deal youtake.
I ain't taking no debrief. I ain't taking no debrief.
And when you incriminate anotherguy, you pleaded.
That's that's why I ain't doing nothing like that.
When it comes to plea deals, were you offered several plea
deals? Do you take the first one you
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receive? How does that work?
And this is for those in the audience maybe that are about to
experience that or something of that nature is going to happen
to them and they've got to decide.
Now they're going to come with acouple plea deals.
You just can't dive on the firstone because the first one will
always be outrageous. So you just got to take the one
that that's best for you. Now again, circumstances could
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be different for everybody, especially when it comes to your
case versus other people watching this, but there are
some that reject plea deals all together.
In your case, when you zoom out and think about how everything
played out, do you wish you would have rejected it and took
it to trial, or were you OK withthe end result?
Probably do and a part of me don't.
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So I'm like man, still. It was my first charge anyway.
When I, when I took the plea, I was coming home already though.
So it was we did find my, we hadfound my son when I took the
plea. So I was like, man, I just take
this. Don't get out on people's way.
And do you remember what age this was in your life when all
of this took place it? Was like 19.
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And care to share where you're stationed at during your
incarceration? Not DCJDCJ.
So this was county. No, we ain't got no County D CJ.
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry about that.
You're right. That's correct.
OK. Now when it comes to this
charge, is this something that is expunged?
Is this something that can be expunged in the future for you?
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I don't. Know, I know, people's playing
the Dangerous game. Just curious there now.
OK, last question, just about that experience that you've
endured for five months here now, circumstances could be
different for everybody once again.
But can you give the audience 5 tips when it comes to surviving
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that environment? Be a man.
I only got 1 tip for him. Be a man.
Now, when it comes to your upbringing here, OK, you've
shared your highest point in your life, which was the music
side of things, but on the opposite end of the spectrum,
what was maybe your lowest pointin the 37th for you and growing
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up in that environment, what wasmaybe your worst experience,
your bottom point for you growing up there?
No, I just bro, I'm going to sayI'm going to say just just being
fucked up trying to find a way for real.
That's the lowest point *** justtrying to find a way.
Just doing every and anything but still ain't getting no
progression out of you get what I'm saying?
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And is that in reference to poverty?
Is that in reference to something deeper than that?
Maybe here no. I'm going to say poverty for
real, but shit shit played out as opposed to though.
At your bottom point, when it came to poverty, what was that
like for you? What was your worst moment just
dealing with poverty? How bad did things get for you
at one point in your life? It was, it was bad.
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It was, it wasn't really that bad like like that because it,
you know, won't find a way. But there's like sleeping in
hallways, not because I got, notbecause I, I ain't got to, but
that's just when I'm on like I don't want to ask my mother for
nothing. I ain't ask my family for
nothing. I'm on my own.
I'm a man. So sleeping in hallways, just
trying to find a way for real sleeping in Vegas, just trying
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to find a way. At what age do you think or what
grade were you in perhaps at that time in your life?
No, I was, I was. I was still in probably like 12
grade, like 1818. Just trying to find a way
though. I ain't want to ask my mother
for my family from the home, sleeping in the hallway, vegans
and. How long do you think that
lifestyle was like for you? I'm going to say probably about
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I went through that for like 6 months and then then I just
found a way. And care to share what that way
was for you I. Can't tell you I found a way.
But you are on the other side ofpoverty at this point.
Ain't no secret, ain't no doubt about that.
How does that feel I. Feel amazing.
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Now, when it comes to your upbringing, OK, winding down
some questions just here about that.
How were you able to survive the37?
Was there a key for you perhaps growing up in that environment?
Well, I already ain't got us. I forget what you're saying
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though but like let's say just ban me.
And just asking because there are some who don't make it.
Are you right about that? Just bear me.
So just wondering what maybe your secret was, for lack of a
better phrase. Now there are some people who
say things like, don't know if I'll make it to see the age of
18, maybe 21 for example. Have you ever had these thoughts
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growing up in DC? No, I had them thoughts because
I learned with my best friends when they was 18.
I had them thoughts though. But I'm just like, man, I'm
just, I'm talking, you know how that go.
Now, be that as it may, knowing what you know now,
hypothetically speaking, what would you have said to your
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younger self back then, if anything?
I feel like my younger self was,I was doing cool.
Ain't nothing I can tell them, yeah.
And that's no problem there. There's some people that have
that same answer as you. That's your variety of questions
here when it comes to your upbringing.
Is there anything else you want to mention about it, just on
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that subject matter there? No, no.
OK, now I want to ask you this. Who or what motivates you at
this point? Man ain't going to that man.
That money and where I came frommotivated me.
That's just only way he is up. Now, circumstances could be
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different for everyone, but there may be someone in the
audience who needs some motivational words or
encouragement themselves right now.
Can you give them any? I want to say just get up and go
get it. Like anything, you just chase
your dreams. For real, just chase your
dreams. Very good.
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OK, I want to ask you this and something that you mentioned
here. You mentioned that you had lost.
Was it a best friend or best friends plural?
I lost both of my best friends. OK, before that even took place,
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let's zoom out for a second. What's your definition of a real
friend? Just be there for you.
Like just be there for me. I'm going to say that.
Just be there for me. How do you spot fake friends?
I ain't going really that like Ialready didn't went through that
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like, but I went through that. I already went through that
spotting them. Oh, it's just certain little
things I only know explaining for real.
But you you won't see it. You won't see it.
Now, when it comes to spotting afake friend, as soon as you
notice something off, something different.
A red flag if you will. What is your policy when it
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comes to that? Do you cut someone off
immediately like a 0 tolerance policy?
Or do you give someone the benefit of the doubt to redeem
themselves? Give them a second chance.
No, I just be. I just move around.
Yeah, man, I ain't going. I ain't even going to give them
a chance to redeem themselves. Nothing.
You do it in one time, you do itagain for real.
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For real. I just move around and ain't no
ain't no little laws. I just, yeah, I see you in a
different way. When it comes to your best
friends that you lost, do you want to shout those names here
during this interview? Yeah, lonely hog and lonely.
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And did they pass away at the same time or those were separate
instances? Got it.
When it comes to best friends, do you have any best friends now
or the ones you lost? Our whole like my whole circle,
we all best friends, like we allcall each other.
I ran my best friend, stuff likethat.
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So we all clue. How many people do you think
that is at this point? It's a, it's a couple of us,
it's a couple of. Us just curious.
There all right. I want to ask you this now, just
diving into you here a little bit more personally, OK, when it
comes to you, right Gizwap, whatis the biggest misconception of
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you at this point? What is a wrong or inaccurate
idea people may have about you? What?
Do you mean by that? Is there something people say
about you but it's not true? A lot of things they say I can't
even. I can't even.
They say a lot of things that's not true.
Didn't know if there was like a repetitive thing people say
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about you, like a main thing people say about you that you
wanted to kind of clear up. I don't know.
I don't know. They say a lot of things.
I don't even be feeding into that though.
Now, why not? Because there are some people
who do so, for example, when something unpleasant comes up
about them, maybe comments on social media, things of that
nature, they respond, they clap back, they publicly address
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whatever comes their way. And then there's some people
like yourself here, which you just described, which leave it
alone, don't feed into it. Why that mentality for you when
others clap back or publicly address things of that nature?
I don't know. I just feel like, man, I'm not
going. I can't win against the
Internet, man. They're going to think what they
want. So I just let them people stop.
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Now, have you always had this mentality, or was it something
you grew into over time? I'm.
Going to say it's something I grew into probably when I was
younger. I just probably say something,
but I ain't going to ever say that.
Like when I was young, I won't just ever say nothing on the
Internet Go public on that. I I just pull that person up who
who take anything to the Internet, pull them up
personally. Is there a question you receive
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you dislike getting asked? Something you can't stand to
answer Perhaps. Maybe it's a repetitive
question. Something you receive all the
time could be from followers, fans or supporters asking you
this. No, I won't really be.
I won't really be answering questions for real for real.
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When it comes to questions, havepeople questioned you're hyped
how tall you are. No, I ain't got no question like
that. I got taller.
Care to share what that numeric figure is for those in the
audience wondering? I'm probably about 510-5959.
And with that figure there, are you the tallest male in your
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immediate family? Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Just curious there.
And Speaking of family, care to share how many siblings you have
at this point? I got like, I got like three
siblings all all my sisters. I got sisters.
And same mother and father as you or.
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Nah, same mother, different father.
How many? Same mother and father as just
yourself, unless you're the onlyone here out of the four.
Nah, me and me and my two sisters.
And where do you fit on that ladder amongst all the?
Siblings. I'm the youngest.
You're the youngest. OK, now Speaking of the youngest
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and having that position there, what was that like, being the
youngest on the ladder amongst your siblings?
Not everybody love me, everybodyshowing me that they love me.
And when it comes to that position, there once again being
the youngest on that ladder of siblings, what's the biggest
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lesson you took away from that experience there, if anything?
I was, I know I had to be the I'm the man of the family.
So just step up. I got to step up.
Now Speaking of your family here, does anyone else do music
aside yourself or just you took that career path?
Just me. And what's been the response
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from your immediate family or members outside of your
immediate family to that career path for you?
They're my biggest fans, they'remy biggest fan.
Just curious there and OK, moving forward here, some more
questions for you. We're not done yet.
I want to ask you this. Sorry, I've got different notes
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here. Like I mentioned all over the
place, I do want to ask you thison the music side of things, can
you explain to the audience everything they need to know
about Kill or be killed? Man, that's just the way life is
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going, man. You know when you were in the
streets, man, this kill will be killed, man.
That's why I leave with my mixtape that man.
That's, that's just how it is. You really?
Now you use the phrase mixtape here.
Why go that route for this project?
There are some that go the albumroute or maybe something shorter
like an EP perhaps? Hey.
Man, I'm just giving you a brieflook on how I'm coming.
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Somebody just turned the squeezeup after this.
You know how that go. Now when it comes to mixtapes,
there are some that have a DJ host them.
In this case, no DJ. Why no DJ for you?
I ain't getting around to that yet.
I ain't getting around to that yet.
I probably do something like that too.
Now, when it comes to this titlehere, you've already shared the
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meaning behind it. But was this a title that you
came up with or someone coined for you?
No. That's the title I came up with.
And when it comes to this title,at what point during the
creation process does this titlecome to mind for you?
Was this something before you start recording this body of
work, these songs for this mix tape, Was that maybe during the
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process of recording? Or was that maybe something
after you finish recording thesesongs and looked at it and come
up with this title here? I came up with that title before
the songs. It's just how I'm living.
Like this is the way I came up with that title before them
songs. Now, were there any other titles
you were thinking about using? Titles that got scrapped
perhaps? No, that's the title right
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there. Now, what about the artwork
here? Can you explain the concept
behind this artwork? Not for real, I can't.
It is a cartoonish image. Why that route for this one?
Why not more so like a real lifedepiction like some other people
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use for their covers? Why the cartoonish cover for you
here? I like that junk because I like
I like that the cartoon junk so it can make it more realistic on
how I want to come. Now when it comes to this
project, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to
it that's never been publicly mentioned before?
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Could be in regards to creating this mix tape, recording this
mix tape or releasing it? It's a the mix tape is like I
had the mix tape for real, like for a little minute for real.
I just make keep going to the studio, pulling more songs,
battering the other songs. So that's that's what I've been
doing for real. But that don't that don't like
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that, though. I ain't going that.
Who's been the biggest person inthe music industry that you fell
out with? But it is since been repaired.
Life all over. Nobody in the music industry.
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Just curious there because sometimes that does happen.
Now Speaking of the music industry, you mentioned this
name a couple of times during this interview and I wanted to
hone in on it just a little bit further and see how this how you
2 linked here and that is no savage well.
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That's that's my that's my bloodbrother, like that's my Big
Brother. We grew up, you know, we from
the same hood, you and me grew up together.
So it was just that for real, for real do.
You remember the first time you two met The very first time.
We was young man. We, I, I don't even remember.
And we, we was just young. Just, you know how that go.
He just gravitated to his littlebrother.
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That's my brother though, Yeah. Was it a certain age or a
certain grade you can remember? Maybe.
I can't even remember for real, but I can't even remember.
I ain't going to lie to you, butwe it's plenty of countenance
that we had. It just was just funny.
Like yeah, he just gravitated tome for real because he older,
but we we just gravitated to each other.
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Now for those that have never had a chance to meet him in
person yet, what is he really like?
You meet him, you won't love him, man.
You won't love him. I ain't going to lie to you,
going to love him. And what's the best advice you
received from him or most important thing you learned
being around him so far? Just keep going.
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Like just keep going. Keep dropping that music.
Just keep going, man. Go hide.
Don't quit. That's what he'd be telling me.
Just keep going. Go hide, don't quit.
Now, when it comes to music, especially with you 2 together
and collaborations, things of that nature, how many times have
you 2 LinkedIn the studio for collabs we.
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Just we've been like we make some singles, he make it, he
probably make a couple singles that I'll just be in there
chilling or I make some singles,he'd be in there chilling.
But we always in the studio together.
Then we just make a lot of we got a lot of songs together
that's not released. How many songs unreleased right
now do you have approximately Together I'm.
Going to say about 25 about 2520we got a lot of unreleased jump.
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Has there been any that have been publicly released?
Yet, no, he just released the jump on his tape.
That's right on his tape. Two mob.
Yeah, that two mob. That's the name of the project.
What's the name of the song between you 2?
The collaboration there. Scared out is what is, what's it
called? Scared out?
Scared out? Yeah, scared out.
So that's currently the only oneavailable publicly. 25
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unreleased still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No doubt, Ain't no doubt. Now, will any of those songs see
the light of day in the future? Ain't no secret I got on
featured on my mix tape too. I had to throw my brother on my
mix tape. And for those in the audience
that may have not had a chance to watch the previous segment,
just about that, care to share the name of your mixtape and
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that song title as well? Mixtape name act, Kill OB kill
the song title, shoot at it, be out.
OK, SO2 songs of your of you 2 publicly available, 25 maybe
still unreleased. Is there any plans for a project
together of just you and him of some sort?
No, I mean, I'm definitely aboutto do that.
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We definitely about to do that. We was already talking about
that. We definitely about to do that
though. Just curious there.
And you use the phrase brother here, but just figuratively
speaking, not biologically related.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you, you could say we
related though. My mother know his mother, you
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know what I'm saying? And Speaking of him one more
time, just an additional question here that came to mind.
When it comes to his success in the music industry and how far
he's gotten on that ladder there, does any of that surprise
you, being that you knew him so young back then?
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It don't surprise me because I already knew, like he was the
one. He he the 1, So I already knew
he was going just just just do do that motherfucker.
You haven't. But it's I'm just happy, like
damn, like you really, you haven't really doing that
motherfucker. You let you haven't.
I already knew he'd been the one, though.
He'd been the one. Now, what about vice versa?
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Obviously I don't know if you can speak for him directly here,
but is he surprised with your success in the music industry at
this? Point I won't say he's surprised
he's just happy for me like I'm off like that I'm that I'm
growing up he like he already like once he because you know
he's just happy for me, though I'm very happy for.
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Me and at this point you end up signing a record deal.
Ain't no doubt, ain't no doubt. And care to share who that's
with? Signal records.
How did that happen for you? How did you get that record
deal? No, I've been, Jeff been.
Talking to me, I've been cool with Jeff.
So I had, but I had a little minor issue.
It slowed me down, but once I touched Jeff reached back out to
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me like when I was doing so and Jeff been reaching out, messing
with me, just giving me the little keys.
So I'm like, man, I'm going withJeff.
It was the best fit. Good for me.
Now, how did he discover you? He been.
Discovering me though, like I. Ain't going to lie to you, like
he been discovering me like fromlike my first song for real that
he like and he seen what I was doing.
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He just been texting me. So once he just seen he seen
what I was doing. He was just giving me little
pointers on what to do and how to do it and giving me advice.
And then I wasn't really taking the music serious though when he
was giving me little advice. So he seen what was going on.
But when I just, when I came home and I'm taking it serious,
that's when we locked it in. But he was already cool.
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I could just text him, ask for anything, talk to him about
anything. And do you recall?
The name of that song that. You're referencing your first
song here. I'm going to say active, Active.
Active but that critical. He liked it that critical, but
he liked it active and he and hesang what I had going on.
He's saying potential and do you.
Remember when you actually. Signed on the dotted line, man.
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Yeah, it was like, what was that?
Like March. Yeah, March.
March. March.
March. March of 2025.
Yeah, and I just came home in. March So I was feeling real
good. Feeling real good, man.
Now, how long do you? Sign that after coming home?
Was that like a week after? Was that two weeks after?
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A month after? Like 2-2 weeks after.
Two weeks, like two weeks after three, No 3 weeks, 3, three
weeks, like about 2-3 weeks. Three, yeah, three weeks.
And while you were in the March?In the March.
Didn't mean to cut you off there, I.
Apologize while you were incarcerated, was that something
that was talked about as well? Was that that record deal?
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Hey, as soon as you get out, looks like you're about to get
out, we want to sign you type ofthing.
Or it was literally after you officially come home when those
kind of discussions took place. Yeah, because they don't know
the full. Details.
So it was like when I came home was like I knew I knew they was
going to try to gravitate to me.Nobody's going to try and
gravitate to me. So it was like I just had to go
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home and do what I was supposed to do.
Now everyone's circumstances. Are different right yours
included but personally speakingfor you why did you sign a
record deal at that time in yourlife because there are some
people who wait there's some people that never sign no, I
feel that right I'm. Just saying that was the best
option I feel, as that's the best thing that I could have did
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for real, for real. It helped me.
It helped me. I like, I like what I did like I
feel like that was a good decision.
And aside from? Jeff and Signal Records, were
there other record labels, otherrecord deals that you were
offered aside from them or were they the only one courting you
at that time? It was.
It was. It was.
Ever it was ever labels. How many?
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Other labels like 10, it was 10.It was 10/10 record labels.
Yeah, it was 10 trying to. Sign you.
It was 10 or more. It was.
Like 10 or more. It was 10 or more.
So when you zoom out. What was it about Jeff and
Signal Records that you decide to sign with them versus the
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other people trying to get you to sign?
Man, they, they had my they. Had my best interest at the end
of the day, not saying the otherone was there.
I just, I just feel like I knew Jeff and Jeff and the and the
deal that is that that I went, he had my best interest.
That's all. That's how I feel.
And what about on the financial?Side of things, were the other
offers that you received financially bigger, financially
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better, but you still went with Jeff and Signal Records or were
they also the most financially, the best as well at the time?
I ain't going to really speak onthe.
Financial side though, but but Jeff had Jeff did that.
Jeff did it. Jeff did it.
Jeff did it. Now winding down the.
Questions here about your recorddeal when it came to the other
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record labels trying to get yourattention, trying to get you
give you offers, trying to get you to sign.
How far would any of them go to try to get that done?
The courting process now they was.
They was. They was doing, they was doing
it. They was they was offering them
numbers though. I ain't going to laugh, but I'm
like, man, I'm just, I'm just gowith Jeff Cuff and they always
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about the money at the end of the day.
Were they flying you out? Now I couldn't really.
Travel when I first came home, so it was, it was hard.
It was hard, but if you were able.
To travel. They would have flown you out.
They would exactly cheer me out.They would have.
Definitely flew me out. Would any of them because you
couldn't. Travel.
Would any of them try to come toyou and where you were at?
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No, they definitely did. They definitely.
Did they definitely did OK. How many out of?
The 10. Came to where you were at.
Like 4. 4/4 definitely came to four and just.
Curious there because? That winning dining process is
different for everyone. So just wanted to see how far
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any of those record labels went for you to try to get your
attention there. But circumstances could be
different for everyone here. OK, but.
Anything you want to say when itcomes?
To record deals. Maybe there's someone in the
audience about to get one themselves.
May have gotten one. Haven't signed.
Thinking about it, maybe yes, maybe no.
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Zooming out, what's your? Opinion on.
Record deals. I'm going to say just just.
Do what you do best at heart, nomatter what nobody say because
some of the next man might say no, don't sign for that.
You can. They never seen that though.
But the next man telling you don't sign for that probably
never seen it. So it's like, man, just do what
you feel like that's going to help you.
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Anything else here you want to mention?
About record deals, while we're on that subject there No, no,
no. And Speaking of Jeff.
Do want to ask you a couple questions about him.
Have you had the chance to meet him in person yet?
No. No.
No, not yet, because I can't. Travel yet?
I can't travel. I can't travel, but I'm I can
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travel now though, now that I'm here.
But we definitely want to meet though.
I've been talking to him a lot on the phone.
Got it. He.
Definitely hands on he. Definitely hands on and.
Last question here about Jeff ashe's been hands on with you,
what's the best advice you've received from him or most
important thing you learned being around him on the phone?
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Of course. So far man, just just go.
Up and just go up. Just just do you keep doing what
you're supposed to do, Just doing what you're supposed to do
and go up. Just curious there.
OK, now I want to ask you a couple.
Questions here about DC? OK.
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And. Even though this is 1 giant long
interview, all these are different topics and clips.
So, OK, now circumstances could be different for everyone, but
can you? Give the audience. 5 tips for
anyone visiting Washington DC First tip.
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If you were visiting out of town, visit 37th St.
SE, the top of the hill. That's the first tip and the
second. Tip is go.
Out with the clubs and party man, bring out all your jewelry
and just have fun. Any other tips here?
No, just have fun. Hit the clubs, party, bring out
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all your jewelry, visit 30 Sam. You know we like a landmark in
DC, so just visit 30 Sam with all your jewelry.
Come out in pilot. Now you have.
Some people off camera here to the side of you laughing at
these tips. Why do you say that?
I have no idea why they're. Laughing.
But they are. They're kind of laughing here on
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the side. Amy, Amy, look.
Amy, look at them. I'm right looking at you.
Just curious why they're laughing here.
I don't nobody but y'all laugh. Oh, oh, OK, something totally.
Different. OK, cool.
Funny on the phone, man. Just curious there.
OK, what about this? What's your opinion on the
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phrase DMVDM? VDC, Maryland and Virginia.
Ain't no doubt what's your. Opinion on that phrase?
DMVI ain't. Got no opinion DMV but I'm DC
though I'm big DC I'm a homie time.
Out of the fish though, I'm a homie time.
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Just curious there. And what about this accent of
yours? I ain't got no accent.
MO OK. Just curious there.
Never mind then, I was going to.Say I was going to go somewhere
with that. If you did, when you got accent,
what you think I got? Accent a little bit for real A.
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Little accent. I was going to ask you what
people's reactions to your accent outside of DC was like
being in Atlanta. Just curious with what their
reaction to you and your, you know, your slang, your lingo and
your accent is. Oh yeah, yeah, but that's OK.
What about this? Something with DC here?
What's your opinion on Mumbo sauce?
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I love it. Mumbo sauce on everything.
Can you explain to? The audience?
What that is exactly? Special sauce.
I guess because they ain't got it over here like eggs, little
wings, spat something like mumbosauce.
They ain't got it out of here because that's a special sauce.
Now when? It comes to the.
DC area Who makes it the best 30time?
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And any particular establishment.
There, Yeah. Me got it now.
When it comes to mumbo sauce, McDonald's released, for a
limited time, a mumbo sauce themselves.
Did you? Recall that.
Do you remember that? Did you know that even took
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place? No, I knew.
I knew it took place. I seen.
It on the commercial jump on thelower commercial jump.
Did you get a chance to try it at?
The time, no, I wouldn't even try it.
I only eat McDonald's why would I try McDonald's?
What was that they just trying things now?
Just wanted to see if you're just.
Wanted to see what your opinion was if you had one there and
you'll see. OK.
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Is there a difference? Between a baddie and a beautiful
woman, I don't feel like there'sno.
I don't feel like there's no difference because if she's
beautiful, she a baddie. Now how do you pull one?
How do I pull one? Yes, How do you pull a baddie?
Or a beautiful woman, I'm going to say.
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Just keep looking. At them and then.
They they, they holla at them, spit that venom in her ear.
How big is? Fashion for you at this point, I
ain't going. I ain't really.
Into fashion for you. I ain't into fashion.
I like Under Armour a lot though.
I like Under Armour now before we get into.
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Under Armour here. Why is fashion not big for you?
That can be really a big deal for some.
No, because I ain't really grow up.
On fashion for real, I just liketo be.
I like to get flat, but if I could wear a sweat suit with
Under Armour sweat suit every day, I would man.
But it'd be like man, switch it up, throw some jeans on for the
video. And so that's what I'd be doing.
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I'd do that. Got it.
But when it comes. To Under Armour, what is it
about them and their brand for you that you put on top compared
to other brands? Because there's some that like
others. That's that ninja suit.
Right there, man. I love that, that dry fit, man.
They just it. Go with it.
Go with everything. Yeah, man.
You could throw them on with thedesigners, got to throw them on
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with Valenciaga now. I just used to throw them on
with the Diors, but you got to throw them on with Valenciaga
now. So they cool, they cool.
Now be that as it. May can you break down your
entire outfit during this interview From head to toe?
When I got on yes. When I got like a spider hoodie
on Young Thug, Joe Amiris Diors.Shit ain't nothing.
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Shit ain't about nothing. And what about the watch?
Here little role. Shit ain't about nothing.
Little role shit ain't about nothing.
I ain't bothering nobody. Just curious there.
And when it comes to any of these brands you just mentioned
for transparency, are you sponsored by any of these
designers or brands mentioned inthis portion of questions?
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Now circumstances could be. Different for everyone and
although you humbly say you're not into fashion like that,
still, we'll ask you this in case you have an answer.
But any fashion tips or fashion advice for those in the
audience? Nah.
I ain't got no fashion. I ain't really no fashion type
of guy. Just curious.
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I'm like all. Right.
Well, that was pretty simple. Sometimes that can be a very
deep subject for some recording artists.
OK, just about done here. WAP maybe one more for you.
We just one more. Let me just double check my
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questions here. Yeah, you answered pretty much
everything. Oh, I do want to ask you this.
OK, I know you didn't get a. Chance to do it during the
interview, but I'll still ask you this anyways.
OK, when it comes to your past history of drug use, and this
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could be any substance you've experimented with in the past,
do you have a horror high story?A bad experience while you were
high. Damn Slim, I'm trying to.
Think I have remember I had I had took an edible one time or
so. I was just this when I was in
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school though, I had took an edible.
I was high shit. I'm like man, I just you know,
when you get too high, you just pray that man, please take it
down. Just like please, please,
please. Hi.
Shit. Yeah, but that shit ain't both
dying now. Now.
Was that your first? Time ever trying an edible?
Yeah. That was my first time trying
to. Ever Because you know when you
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ask, you smoke a lot of that weed, smoke a lot of that weed
and this was a cannabis. Edible.
Yeah, cannabis that weed out of.Weed.
Only did weed and drink a littlelemon.
Got it. And when it comes to your first
experience here, sometimes people end up being in the
hospital for that sort of thing.They take too much, they don't
know what they're doing, that sort of thing.
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Did it ever get almost to that point for you where you almost
had to be seen by a professionalover this high?
No, I ain't going to say that now.
It was. Just, you know, they call your
mother in school how they got eyes all low, where they kick
you out. So my mother had to deal with
me, man. But it wasn't really nothing
like that. And what was her reaction?
Having to come get you for this edible First thought she tried
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to slap. The help out of me but it didn't
work so I'm. Still laughing at.
Everything ain't feeling nothingbut listen.
Hey, that's what happened. And do you?
Remember what grade this was? Back then, line grade, line
grade, line grade. Didn't care to share the name of
the school you. Attended.
Back in those days, I attended friendship.
Collegiate. And since.
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This horror high story of yours,Have you quit edibles?
Were you one and done with that moment there?
Yeah, I was 1 and done. I ain't like.
The feather. Never again for you.
Yeah, and. Speaking of your education here.
How far did you get with that? Where I graduated.
Graduated high school. Yeah, I graduated now.
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There are some that go beyond. High school they further their
education. Was there any thoughts on that
for you? I ain't going to laugh once I
graduated. High school, I was done.
It was all the way from that. What was your mentality back?
Then with that, why done for youafter 12th grade?
Because it's time to get some. Paper I ain't.
It's time to get some paper. If anything, I was going to go
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to college and get some paper. That's what I was going to
college for, to get some paper, but I ain't really It was over.
It's. Over chasing some money, man, I
had to go. Chase me a bankroll.
I'm out of school now. My deuce can't do nothing for
me. Got to move out.
Let's go. Ain't saying she put me out, but
that's my mentality. I got to go hit the ground
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running. Now.
Any. Regret with that decision.
Making looking back on how everything's played out in your
life, making that decision to stop your education after 12th
grade, well, I'm going to say myIf I can't do.
That I probably wouldn't be herewith you right now.
So I feel like every decision I made was a good decision.
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Now when it came to your. Schoolmates.
Your classmates? Did any of them end up becoming
well known or famous themselves?Not that.
Not that I went. To school with somebody that
that just got drafted though, I think like 3 people though, they
just got drafted to the NFL likewe was in the same same
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graduation class OK never had classroom with.
Them just in the same slot I hadlike.
Think I had one. Class and one of them.
Though And I know him, though I know him though I know.
Do you want to share who? Forgot.
It I forgot his name, I forgot. It now I know him now I just was
looking at his page, OK. Well, let me ask.
You this moving forward. When kids grow up, sometimes
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they have aspirations of what they want to be or what they
want to do when they get older. Sometimes it works out,
sometimes it does not. Did you have?
Any once. Upon a time, say one more time,
OK? Sometimes when kids are.
Growing up, they say I want to be this.
When I grow up, I want to be that.
Sometimes it works out for them and sometimes it doesn't.
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So for example, some people say,hey, when I grow up I want to be
a fireman. Some people.
End up becoming that. Fireman they wanted to be, but
sometimes they go a whole different route that has nothing
to do with that. So for you, did you have any
aspirate? Did was there something you
wanted to be career wise? You know, as a kid growing up,
you want. To be in the field style,
basketball style, that was the only job.
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That's it. I wanted to be in the field
style, basketball style, but it didn't break out.
Why not? Yeah, the high school roommates
was too. Big try to play football,
basketball and the cardio. So I'm like fuck it, I'm
talking. I'm already talking, so fuck
that shit I'm talking is what itis.
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Now be that as it may. How far did you get with any of
those sports? Did you at least play maybe like
JV? Yeah, JV Lord.
JV shit want none. I ain't play high school JV
though, because 9th grader I wouldn't.
I'm in 9th grade. I'm there like they in 12th
grade. So I'm like my football, like
for me, I ain't got time for allthat.
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No, I'm talking. At this.
Point, do you? Consider yourself a full time
recording artist, yes. Did you ever?
Foresee that. Back then growing up for you,
No. So does that surprise you?
The fact that you wanted to be an athlete and the fact that you
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end up doing music instead. Yeah, it.
Surprised me a lot but. I'm like, I'm just happy how far
I came. But I always knew I'd be
something though, like somethingdid people.
Say this about. You too.
Did people have that hunch or that feeling that you were going
to be someone growing up? Would they ever use phrases like
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you're going to be a star one day, you're going to be a
superstar? I can see it.
Yeah. I don't know in what?
I don't know what exactly, but Ifeel like you can be someone
really famous one day. Would people say these things to
you growing up? Yeah, some people say.
I could be a comedian. That's when I was a kid, though.
That's when I was a kid. Some people say you could be a
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comedian. My mother.
Always told me I'm going to be a.
Star So I just believe everything my mother said on the
comedic. Side of things, were you like a
class clown back then or? Yeah, I was a class clown.
I was a class. Clown.
I was a class clown and why for you?
Where did that stem from? Like being funny back in those
days, being a class clown was, was it something that drove you
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to those jokes and things of that nature?
I don't even know it like hanging around.
My my father, like my baby, my father crack a lot of jokes.
My mother, she funny for real. So just just doing that then
chilling with my friends, they say I'm funny.
I won't even be doing nothing funny, but it'd be funny though.
You get what I'm saying? And do you know what type?
Of funny that was back then. Like, were you sarcastic back
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then? Was it like slapstick stuff?
Like, you know, physical humor or no?
Physical humor or not. Just cracking Lord jokes or
realistic funny or something. You get what I'm saying?
When it comes to. This interview that we just
completed, is there anything else that needs further
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clarification? Is there anything else that you
want to add to what you said during this conversation?
Is there anything perhaps you want to subtract from what you
said, retract from what you said?
No, I'm going to say man, I. Feel like this was a good
interview. I got all my points across.
For real? You mean ain't got too much to
say for real? Any last?
Words before we leave here. Just go scream that tape, man.
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Kill or be killed screaming man.Run it up to the roof.
Let's go.
Now, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
Man I don't want like ad libs. Cool.
You need them though. You need ad libs.
You need ad libs on a song. When it comes to your music,
your songs, do you have a strategy?
When it comes to your ad libs, No.
I ain't, I ain't really got no strategy.
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It's just like I just get in andjust flow whatever I have.
I feel that's what I that's whatI.
Do and be that as it may, do youhave a signature ad Lib by any
chance? No, not for real.
Not for real. Not a main ad Lib.
Not an ad Lib you use repetitively.
Probably like. And is there a meaning behind
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that when you implement that? Now when it comes to ad libs and
it comes to collaborating with other recording artists, have
you added your ad libs to another artist verse on the same
song? Nah.
What or my verse? Yes, when you're collaborating
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with an artist and they have their own verse.
Have you ever put your ad libs on their verse before?
Nah Nah Nah my man, Savage be doing my ad libs sometimes when
we do something I let Savage be doing.
Do you like that? Now, how does that work?
Do you ask him to do that? Does he just voluntarily do
that? No, he do.
He won't do it because he'd be like, but he'd be telling me do
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my ad libs, though, because, youknow, brother, I like no, he the
goat for real. So he he just be just doing them
jumps for me. Like like you got to do your own
ad libs, though. I'm going to do them for you.
When it comes to your catalog ofmusic, what's been your biggest
song so far? Like my general, yes, I'm going
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to say for real that war general.
They loving that war general. They loving that money and
murder too. They loving that money and
murder that war general. What about body?
Now, you named a variety of songs here.
Yeah. When it comes to any of these
songs you just mentioned, are there any unknown facts or
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stories in regards to any of these song titles you just
shared that's never been publicly mentioned before?
Could be in regards to creating these songs, recording these
songs or releasing these songs, no.
I'm just rapping. I'm just rapping.
Just curious there. OK, now when it comes to rapping
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and it comes to the stage name of yours, what's the correct way
to pronounce your stage name? Yes, what?
Do people mispronounce this? Sometimes somebody might call me
Jizz or some other little buddy.I just tell them to call me
whop. Can't pronounce the Giz?
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Just call me whop. I don't.
I don't take no offense to it ornot.
You know what I'm saying? They probably didn't understand
it for real. Now Speaking of understanding,
what is the meaning behind the stage name of yours?
Man, no, I ain't going to laugh,man.
I'm just, I was a young guy, right?
But I was going by my real name.You know how that go, man?
Like man, you need a nickname. So my man told me I'm a grumble.
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That man just said, man, we're going to name you Gizmo.
And I just, the savage threw thewhop on this.
So I just changed that from Giz to Giz whop.
You know how that go. And care to share the person
that initially started calling you Gizmo?
My man mook. My man mook.
We was young though. We was kids, man.
You say, man, you gotta stop warming by your, your real name.
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Yeah. Now, what about misspellings?
Do people misspell the stage name of yours?
It's really, it's really hard. It's really if you misspelled
Giz or something must be wrong. I don't know, I I can't misspell
Giz. Now, when it comes to the
spelling of your stage name, it's one phrase it's GIZWOP
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ain't. No doubt.
Why no space between maybe GIZ and WOP?
Why just one word 1 phrase there?
It's all together. Guess what?
Excuse me? Now just zooming out here, what
do you notice people do more when it comes to your stage
name? Mispronounce it or misspell it.
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I don't really be saying nobody misspelled my name.
They just say get they going to type giz WAP because they on the
phone, you know, you know what I'm saying.
And for those in the audience getting to know you here for the
very first time and it comes to social media, specifically
Instagram, care to share your screen name on that platform?
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My Instagram name Giz Wap 1 #1. Is there any meaning behind the
number one on this username of yours?
I'm the one and. When it comes to your bio here,
wanted to see if you could breakdown this phrase.
Long live the men with a red heart emoji.
That's what I'm living for, man.I lost a lot of brothers, man.
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I lost a lot of brothers. So it's like that's what I'm
living for, man. The men.
Long live the men. Now, do you want to shout any
people you lost in regards to this phrase here?
All my brothers, that's gone, man.
Long little job too, man. All right.
Now, someone's name that you brought up a couple times here,
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well, I'll save that question for later.
That's fine. OK, so I want to ask you this
now. We're going to dive a little bit
deeper with your background history here, the story of who
you are. OK, Now for those in the
audience getting to know you here for the very first time,
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care to share where you were born?
I was born in Washington DC, where the Southeast.
And care to share where you wereraised as well?
Does it get any more specific than that?
I was raised up 30 Same. Came from the South but I was
raised up. I'm raised up 30.
Same. And care to share where you
reside these days? 30 same.
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Now when it comes to your upbringing, being raised in that
area, specifically that 37 that you mentioned here, what was
that really like growing up in that area for you, you?
Know how I go man? The trenches.
You have me battle out of fitness.
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Now when it comes to that phrasethere that you just used the
trenches, for those in the audience that have heard this
phrase depicted in music, seen this phrase depicted in music
videos and those type of visuals, television, movies,
video games, things of that nature, but have never had a
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chance to experience any of thatin real life.
What were the trenches really like?
Man, it was fun. For real.
Just fun. It's a lot of fun for real, a
lot of fun. It ain't what people make it out
to be. It's a lot of fun though.
Now, Speaking of fun and growingup in that area, for you, what
was the top point during your upbringing in that environment?
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What was your highest point or most positive moment growing up
there? I ain't gonna lie.
It's a lot of them for real, like blowing up into music for
real. Just coming up from from being
from there just then blowing up into music because we got a lot
of stars from up that junk. So me blowing up, I'm like my it
was cool. Now let's talk about that
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history there. With that for a second, why or
how did you get into music from the very beginning?
Nah, I'm going to say I got intomusic like I was going to the
studio lonely, my man, I I was going to the studio, but I could
laugh and be like you need to get on the track.
I got on the track with A and then they like keep rapping, but
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I weren't really on no rap time for real and what not.
Then I go to the studio with Savage.
Savage threw me on the song, so it just like man, I might as
well just go ahead and take off with it.
Then I did my little single jump.
It did what it's supposed to do.So I'm like, man, why not?
Now, can you share these titles to any of these songs?
Here you're referencing the songwith No Savage and the single.
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Me and me and Savage did a song but we ain't never drop it
enough for real. So once we once we did that it
was like it was cool. Then I did a single that junk
called Active. It was cool that junk went up,
but I had went in for like a little five months.
It wasn't nothing, though. I had one there, but when I came
home, Savage, me and Savage did that critical.
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Then once that critical blew up,I'm like, I got to keep doing
it. Now Speaking of that time there
that you did. Yeah.
That five months, Is there anything else you want to
mention about that whole ordeal or question you weren't asked?
People want to know just about that.
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No, it wasn't. Not my first time over there
though, But it wasn't nothing over there wasn't nothing.
Just adapt to my environment. Care to share the charge you
were sentenced for back then? No, I wasn't just currently
pressed without license. And was that sentence the result
of a plea deal or something you lost in trial?
No, I was a plea deal. Plea deal for a shot.
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Now thinking back on plea deals,what's your opinion on those?
It depends on what plea deal youtake.
I ain't taking no debrief. I ain't taking no debrief.
And when you incriminate anotherguy, you pleaded.
That's that's why I ain't doing nothing like that.
When it comes to plea deals, were you offered several plea
deals? Do you take the first one you
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receive? How does that work?
And this is for those in the audience maybe that are about to
experience that or something of that nature is going to happen
to them and they've got to decide.
Now they're going to come with acouple plea deals.
You just can't dive on the firstone because the first one will
always be outrageous. So you just got to take the one
that that's best for you. Now again, circumstances could
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be different for everybody, especially when it comes to your
case versus other people watching this, but there are
some that reject plea deals all together.
In your case, when you zoom out and think about how everything
played out, do you wish you would have rejected it and took
it to trial, or were you OK withthe end result?
Probably do and a part of me don't.
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So I'm like man, still. It was my first charge anyway.
When I, when I took the plea, I was coming home already though.
So it was we did find my, we hadfound my son when I took the
plea. So I was like, man, I just take
this. Don't get out on people's way.
And do you remember what age this was in your life when all
of this took place it? Was like 19.
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And care to share where you're stationed at during your
incarceration? Not DCJDCJ.
So this was county. No, we ain't got no County D CJ.
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry about that.
You're right. That's correct.
OK. Now when it comes to this
charge, is this something that is expunged?
Is this something that can be expunged in the future for you?
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I don't. Know, I know, people's playing
the Dangerous game. Just curious there now.
OK, last question, just about that experience that you've
endured for five months here now, circumstances could be
different for everybody once again.
But can you give the audience 5 tips when it comes to surviving
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that environment? Be a man.
I only got 1 tip for him. Be a man.
Now, when it comes to your upbringing here, OK, you've
shared your highest point in your life, which was the music
side of things, but on the opposite end of the spectrum,
what was maybe your lowest pointin the 37th for you and growing
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up in that environment, what wasmaybe your worst experience,
your bottom point for you growing up there?
No, I just bro, I'm going to sayI'm going to say just just being
fucked up trying to find a way for real.
That's the lowest point *** justtrying to find a way.
Just doing every and anything but still ain't getting no
progression out of you get what I'm saying?
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And is that in reference to poverty?
Is that in reference to something deeper than that?
Maybe here no. I'm going to say poverty for
real, but shit shit played out as opposed to though.
At your bottom point, when it came to poverty, what was that
like for you? What was your worst moment just
dealing with poverty? How bad did things get for you
at one point in your life? It was, it was bad.
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It was, it wasn't really that bad like like that because it,
you know, won't find a way. But there's like sleeping in
hallways, not because I got, notbecause I, I ain't got to, but
that's just when I'm on like I don't want to ask my mother for
nothing. I ain't ask my family for
nothing. I'm on my own.
I'm a man. So sleeping in hallways, just
trying to find a way for real sleeping in Vegas, just trying
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to find a way. At what age do you think or what
grade were you in perhaps at that time in your life?
No, I was, I was. I was still in probably like 12
grade, like 1818. Just trying to find a way
though. I ain't want to ask my mother
for my family from the home, sleeping in the hallway, vegans
and. How long do you think that
lifestyle was like for you? I'm going to say probably about
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I went through that for like 6 months and then then I just
found a way. And care to share what that way
was for you I. Can't tell you I found a way.
But you are on the other side ofpoverty at this point.
Ain't no secret, ain't no doubt about that.
How does that feel I. Feel amazing.
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Now, when it comes to your upbringing, OK, winding down
some questions just here about that.
How were you able to survive the37?
Was there a key for you perhaps growing up in that environment?
Well, I already ain't got us. I forget what you're saying
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though but like let's say just ban me.
And just asking because there are some who don't make it.
Are you right about that? Just bear me.
So just wondering what maybe your secret was, for lack of a
better phrase. Now there are some people who
say things like, don't know if I'll make it to see the age of
18, maybe 21 for example. Have you ever had these thoughts
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growing up in DC? No, I had them thoughts because
I learned with my best friends when they was 18.
I had them thoughts though. But I'm just like, man, I'm
just, I'm talking, you know how that go.
Now, be that as it may, knowing what you know now,
hypothetically speaking, what would you have said to your
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younger self back then, if anything?
I feel like my younger self was,I was doing cool.
Ain't nothing I can tell them, yeah.
And that's no problem there. There's some people that have
that same answer as you. That's your variety of questions
here when it comes to your upbringing.
Is there anything else you want to mention about it, just on
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that subject matter there? No, no.
OK, now I want to ask you this. Who or what motivates you at
this point? Man ain't going to that man.
That money and where I came frommotivated me.
That's just only way he is up. Now, circumstances could be
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different for everyone, but there may be someone in the
audience who needs some motivational words or
encouragement themselves right now.
Can you give them any? I want to say just get up and go
get it. Like anything, you just chase
your dreams. For real, just chase your
dreams. Very good.
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OK, I want to ask you this and something that you mentioned
here. You mentioned that you had lost.
Was it a best friend or best friends plural?
I lost both of my best friends. OK, before that even took place,
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let's zoom out for a second. What's your definition of a real
friend? Just be there for you.
Like just be there for me. I'm going to say that.
Just be there for me. How do you spot fake friends?
I ain't going really that like Ialready didn't went through that
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like, but I went through that. I already went through that
spotting them. Oh, it's just certain little
things I only know explaining for real.
But you you won't see it. You won't see it.
Now, when it comes to spotting afake friend, as soon as you
notice something off, something different.
A red flag if you will. What is your policy when it
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comes to that? Do you cut someone off
immediately like a 0 tolerance policy?
Or do you give someone the benefit of the doubt to redeem
themselves? Give them a second chance.
No, I just be. I just move around.
Yeah, man, I ain't going. I ain't even going to give them
a chance to redeem themselves. Nothing.
You do it in one time, you do itagain for real.
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For real. I just move around and ain't no
ain't no little laws. I just, yeah, I see you in a
different way. When it comes to your best
friends that you lost, do you want to shout those names here
during this interview? Yeah, lonely hog and lonely.
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And did they pass away at the same time or those were separate
instances? Got it.
When it comes to best friends, do you have any best friends now
or the ones you lost? Our whole like my whole circle,
we all best friends, like we allcall each other.
I ran my best friend, stuff likethat.
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So we all clue. How many people do you think
that is at this point? It's a, it's a couple of us,
it's a couple of. Us just curious.
There all right. I want to ask you this now, just
diving into you here a little bit more personally, OK, when it
comes to you, right Gizwap, whatis the biggest misconception of
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you at this point? What is a wrong or inaccurate
idea people may have about you? What?
Do you mean by that? Is there something people say
about you but it's not true? A lot of things they say I can't
even. I can't even.
They say a lot of things that's not true.
Didn't know if there was like a repetitive thing people say
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about you, like a main thing people say about you that you
wanted to kind of clear up. I don't know.
I don't know. They say a lot of things.
I don't even be feeding into that though.
Now, why not? Because there are some people
who do so, for example, when something unpleasant comes up
about them, maybe comments on social media, things of that
nature, they respond, they clap back, they publicly address
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whatever comes their way. And then there's some people
like yourself here, which you just described, which leave it
alone, don't feed into it. Why that mentality for you when
others clap back or publicly address things of that nature?
I don't know. I just feel like, man, I'm not
going. I can't win against the
Internet, man. They're going to think what they
want. So I just let them people stop.
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Now, have you always had this mentality, or was it something
you grew into over time? I'm.
Going to say it's something I grew into probably when I was
younger. I just probably say something,
but I ain't going to ever say that.
Like when I was young, I won't just ever say nothing on the
Internet Go public on that. I I just pull that person up who
who take anything to the Internet, pull them up
personally. Is there a question you receive
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you dislike getting asked? Something you can't stand to
answer Perhaps. Maybe it's a repetitive
question. Something you receive all the
time could be from followers, fans or supporters asking you
this. No, I won't really be.
I won't really be answering questions for real for real.
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When it comes to questions, havepeople questioned you're hyped
how tall you are. No, I ain't got no question like
that. I got taller.
Care to share what that numeric figure is for those in the
audience wondering? I'm probably about 510-5959.
And with that figure there, are you the tallest male in your
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immediate family? Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Just curious there.
And Speaking of family, care to share how many siblings you have
at this point? I got like, I got like three
siblings all all my sisters. I got sisters.
And same mother and father as you or.
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Nah, same mother, different father.
How many? Same mother and father as just
yourself, unless you're the onlyone here out of the four.
Nah, me and me and my two sisters.
And where do you fit on that ladder amongst all the?
Siblings. I'm the youngest.
You're the youngest. OK, now Speaking of the youngest
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and having that position there, what was that like, being the
youngest on the ladder amongst your siblings?
Not everybody love me, everybodyshowing me that they love me.
And when it comes to that position, there once again being
the youngest on that ladder of siblings, what's the biggest
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lesson you took away from that experience there, if anything?
I was, I know I had to be the I'm the man of the family.
So just step up. I got to step up.
Now Speaking of your family here, does anyone else do music
aside yourself or just you took that career path?
Just me. And what's been the response
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from your immediate family or members outside of your
immediate family to that career path for you?
They're my biggest fans, they'remy biggest fan.
Just curious there and OK, moving forward here, some more
questions for you. We're not done yet.
I want to ask you this. Sorry, I've got different notes
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here. Like I mentioned all over the
place, I do want to ask you thison the music side of things, can
you explain to the audience everything they need to know
about Kill or be killed? Man, that's just the way life is
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going, man. You know when you were in the
streets, man, this kill will be killed, man.
That's why I leave with my mixtape that man.
That's, that's just how it is. You really?
Now you use the phrase mixtape here.
Why go that route for this project?
There are some that go the albumroute or maybe something shorter
like an EP perhaps? Hey.
Man, I'm just giving you a brieflook on how I'm coming.
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Somebody just turned the squeezeup after this.
You know how that go. Now when it comes to mixtapes,
there are some that have a DJ host them.
In this case, no DJ. Why no DJ for you?
I ain't getting around to that yet.
I ain't getting around to that yet.
I probably do something like that too.
Now, when it comes to this titlehere, you've already shared the
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meaning behind it. But was this a title that you
came up with or someone coined for you?
No. That's the title I came up with.
And when it comes to this title,at what point during the
creation process does this titlecome to mind for you?
Was this something before you start recording this body of
work, these songs for this mix tape, Was that maybe during the
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process of recording? Or was that maybe something
after you finish recording thesesongs and looked at it and come
up with this title here? I came up with that title before
the songs. It's just how I'm living.
Like this is the way I came up with that title before them
songs. Now, were there any other titles
you were thinking about using? Titles that got scrapped
perhaps? No, that's the title right
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there. Now, what about the artwork
here? Can you explain the concept
behind this artwork? Not for real, I can't.
It is a cartoonish image. Why that route for this one?
Why not more so like a real lifedepiction like some other people
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use for their covers? Why the cartoonish cover for you
here? I like that junk because I like
I like that the cartoon junk so it can make it more realistic on
how I want to come. Now when it comes to this
project, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to
it that's never been publicly mentioned before?
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Could be in regards to creating this mix tape, recording this
mix tape or releasing it? It's a the mix tape is like I
had the mix tape for real, like for a little minute for real.
I just make keep going to the studio, pulling more songs,
battering the other songs. So that's that's what I've been
doing for real. But that don't that don't like
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that, though. I ain't going that.
Who's been the biggest person inthe music industry that you fell
out with? But it is since been repaired.
Life all over. Nobody in the music industry.
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Just curious there because sometimes that does happen.
Now Speaking of the music industry, you mentioned this
name a couple of times during this interview and I wanted to
hone in on it just a little bit further and see how this how you
2 linked here and that is no savage well.
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That's that's my that's my bloodbrother, like that's my Big
Brother. We grew up, you know, we from
the same hood, you and me grew up together.
So it was just that for real, for real do.
You remember the first time you two met The very first time.
We was young man. We, I, I don't even remember.
And we, we was just young. Just, you know how that go.
He just gravitated to his littlebrother.
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That's my brother though, Yeah. Was it a certain age or a
certain grade you can remember? Maybe.
I can't even remember for real, but I can't even remember.
I ain't going to lie to you, butwe it's plenty of countenance
that we had. It just was just funny.
Like yeah, he just gravitated tome for real because he older,
but we we just gravitated to each other.
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Now for those that have never had a chance to meet him in
person yet, what is he really like?
You meet him, you won't love him, man.
You won't love him. I ain't going to lie to you,
going to love him. And what's the best advice you
received from him or most important thing you learned
being around him so far? Just keep going.
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Like just keep going. Keep dropping that music.
Just keep going, man. Go hide.
Don't quit. That's what he'd be telling me.
Just keep going. Go hide, don't quit.
Now, when it comes to music, especially with you 2 together
and collaborations, things of that nature, how many times have
you 2 LinkedIn the studio for collabs we.
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Just we've been like we make some singles, he make it, he
probably make a couple singles that I'll just be in there
chilling or I make some singles,he'd be in there chilling.
But we always in the studio together.
Then we just make a lot of we got a lot of songs together
that's not released. How many songs unreleased right
now do you have approximately Together I'm.
Going to say about 25 about 2520we got a lot of unreleased jump.
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Has there been any that have been publicly released?
Yet, no, he just released the jump on his tape.
That's right on his tape. Two mob.
Yeah, that two mob. That's the name of the project.
What's the name of the song between you 2?
The collaboration there. Scared out is what is, what's it
called? Scared out?
Scared out? Yeah, scared out.
So that's currently the only oneavailable publicly. 25
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unreleased still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No doubt, Ain't no doubt. Now, will any of those songs see
the light of day in the future? Ain't no secret I got on
featured on my mix tape too. I had to throw my brother on my
mix tape. And for those in the audience
that may have not had a chance to watch the previous segment,
just about that, care to share the name of your mixtape and
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that song title as well? Mixtape name act, Kill OB kill
the song title, shoot at it, be out.
OK, SO2 songs of your of you 2 publicly available, 25 maybe
still unreleased. Is there any plans for a project
together of just you and him of some sort?
No, I mean, I'm definitely aboutto do that.
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We definitely about to do that. We was already talking about
that. We definitely about to do that
though. Just curious there.
And you use the phrase brother here, but just figuratively
speaking, not biologically related.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you, you could say we
related though. My mother know his mother, you
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know what I'm saying? And Speaking of him one more
time, just an additional question here that came to mind.
When it comes to his success in the music industry and how far
he's gotten on that ladder there, does any of that surprise
you, being that you knew him so young back then?
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It don't surprise me because I already knew, like he was the
one. He he the 1, So I already knew
he was going just just just do do that motherfucker.
You haven't. But it's I'm just happy, like
damn, like you really, you haven't really doing that
motherfucker. You let you haven't.
I already knew he'd been the one, though.
He'd been the one. Now, what about vice versa?
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Obviously I don't know if you can speak for him directly here,
but is he surprised with your success in the music industry at
this? Point I won't say he's surprised
he's just happy for me like I'm off like that I'm that I'm
growing up he like he already like once he because you know
he's just happy for me, though I'm very happy for.
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Me and at this point you end up signing a record deal.
Ain't no doubt, ain't no doubt. And care to share who that's
with? Signal records.
How did that happen for you? How did you get that record
deal? No, I've been, Jeff been.
Talking to me, I've been cool with Jeff.
So I had, but I had a little minor issue.
It slowed me down, but once I touched Jeff reached back out to
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me like when I was doing so and Jeff been reaching out, messing
with me, just giving me the little keys.
So I'm like, man, I'm going withJeff.
It was the best fit. Good for me.
Now, how did he discover you? He been.
Discovering me though, like I. Ain't going to lie to you, like
he been discovering me like fromlike my first song for real that
he like and he seen what I was doing.
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He just been texting me. So once he just seen he seen
what I was doing. He was just giving me little
pointers on what to do and how to do it and giving me advice.
And then I wasn't really taking the music serious though when he
was giving me little advice. So he seen what was going on.
But when I just, when I came home and I'm taking it serious,
that's when we locked it in. But he was already cool.
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I could just text him, ask for anything, talk to him about
anything. And do you recall?
The name of that song that. You're referencing your first
song here. I'm going to say active, Active.
Active but that critical. He liked it that critical, but
he liked it active and he and hesang what I had going on.
He's saying potential and do you.
Remember when you actually. Signed on the dotted line, man.
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Yeah, it was like, what was that?
Like March. Yeah, March.
March. March.
March. March of 2025.
Yeah, and I just came home in. March So I was feeling real
good. Feeling real good, man.
Now, how long do you? Sign that after coming home?
Was that like a week after? Was that two weeks after?
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A month after? Like 2-2 weeks after.
Two weeks, like two weeks after three, No 3 weeks, 3, three
weeks, like about 2-3 weeks. Three, yeah, three weeks.
And while you were in the March?In the March.
Didn't mean to cut you off there, I.
Apologize while you were incarcerated, was that something
that was talked about as well? Was that that record deal?
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Hey, as soon as you get out, looks like you're about to get
out, we want to sign you type ofthing.
Or it was literally after you officially come home when those
kind of discussions took place. Yeah, because they don't know
the full. Details.
So it was like when I came home was like I knew I knew they was
going to try to gravitate to me.Nobody's going to try and
gravitate to me. So it was like I just had to go
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home and do what I was supposed to do.
Now everyone's circumstances. Are different right yours
included but personally speakingfor you why did you sign a
record deal at that time in yourlife because there are some
people who wait there's some people that never sign no, I
feel that right I'm. Just saying that was the best
option I feel, as that's the best thing that I could have did
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for real, for real. It helped me.
It helped me. I like, I like what I did like I
feel like that was a good decision.
And aside from? Jeff and Signal Records, were
there other record labels, otherrecord deals that you were
offered aside from them or were they the only one courting you
at that time? It was.
It was. It was.
Ever it was ever labels. How many?
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Other labels like 10, it was 10.It was 10/10 record labels.
Yeah, it was 10 trying to. Sign you.
It was 10 or more. It was.
Like 10 or more. It was 10 or more.
So when you zoom out. What was it about Jeff and
Signal Records that you decide to sign with them versus the
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other people trying to get you to sign?
Man, they, they had my they. Had my best interest at the end
of the day, not saying the otherone was there.
I just, I just feel like I knew Jeff and Jeff and the and the
deal that is that that I went, he had my best interest.
That's all. That's how I feel.
And what about on the financial?Side of things, were the other
offers that you received financially bigger, financially
(35:03):
better, but you still went with Jeff and Signal Records or were
they also the most financially, the best as well at the time?
I ain't going to really speak onthe.
Financial side though, but but Jeff had Jeff did that.
Jeff did it. Jeff did it.
Jeff did it. Now winding down the.
Questions here about your recorddeal when it came to the other
(35:24):
record labels trying to get yourattention, trying to get you
give you offers, trying to get you to sign.
How far would any of them go to try to get that done?
The courting process now they was.
They was. They was doing, they was doing
it. They was they was offering them
numbers though. I ain't going to laugh, but I'm
like, man, I'm just, I'm just gowith Jeff Cuff and they always
(35:45):
about the money at the end of the day.
Were they flying you out? Now I couldn't really.
Travel when I first came home, so it was, it was hard.
It was hard, but if you were able.
To travel. They would have flown you out.
They would exactly cheer me out.They would have.
Definitely flew me out. Would any of them because you
couldn't. Travel.
Would any of them try to come toyou and where you were at?
(36:06):
No, they definitely did. They definitely.
Did they definitely did OK. How many out of?
The 10. Came to where you were at.
Like 4. 4/4 definitely came to four and just.
Curious there because? That winning dining process is
different for everyone. So just wanted to see how far
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any of those record labels went for you to try to get your
attention there. But circumstances could be
different for everyone here. OK, but.
Anything you want to say when itcomes?
To record deals. Maybe there's someone in the
audience about to get one themselves.
May have gotten one. Haven't signed.
Thinking about it, maybe yes, maybe no.
(36:49):
Zooming out, what's your? Opinion on.
Record deals. I'm going to say just just.
Do what you do best at heart, nomatter what nobody say because
some of the next man might say no, don't sign for that.
You can. They never seen that though.
But the next man telling you don't sign for that probably
never seen it. So it's like, man, just do what
you feel like that's going to help you.
(37:10):
Anything else here you want to mention?
About record deals, while we're on that subject there No, no,
no. And Speaking of Jeff.
Do want to ask you a couple questions about him.
Have you had the chance to meet him in person yet?
No. No.
No, not yet, because I can't. Travel yet?
I can't travel. I can't travel, but I'm I can
(37:31):
travel now though, now that I'm here.
But we definitely want to meet though.
I've been talking to him a lot on the phone.
Got it. He.
Definitely hands on he. Definitely hands on and.
Last question here about Jeff ashe's been hands on with you,
what's the best advice you've received from him or most
important thing you learned being around him on the phone?
(37:53):
Of course. So far man, just just go.
Up and just go up. Just just do you keep doing what
you're supposed to do, Just doing what you're supposed to do
and go up. Just curious there.
OK, now I want to ask you a couple.
Questions here about DC? OK.
(38:19):
And. Even though this is 1 giant long
interview, all these are different topics and clips.
So, OK, now circumstances could be different for everyone, but
can you? Give the audience. 5 tips for
anyone visiting Washington DC First tip.
(38:39):
If you were visiting out of town, visit 37th St.
SE, the top of the hill. That's the first tip and the
second. Tip is go.
Out with the clubs and party man, bring out all your jewelry
and just have fun. Any other tips here?
No, just have fun. Hit the clubs, party, bring out
(39:01):
all your jewelry, visit 30 Sam. You know we like a landmark in
DC, so just visit 30 Sam with all your jewelry.
Come out in pilot. Now you have.
Some people off camera here to the side of you laughing at
these tips. Why do you say that?
I have no idea why they're. Laughing.
But they are. They're kind of laughing here on
(39:22):
the side. Amy, Amy, look.
Amy, look at them. I'm right looking at you.
Just curious why they're laughing here.
I don't nobody but y'all laugh. Oh, oh, OK, something totally.
Different. OK, cool.
Funny on the phone, man. Just curious there.
OK, what about this? What's your opinion on the
(39:43):
phrase DMVDM? VDC, Maryland and Virginia.
Ain't no doubt what's your. Opinion on that phrase?
DMVI ain't. Got no opinion DMV but I'm DC
though I'm big DC I'm a homie time.
Out of the fish though, I'm a homie time.
(40:05):
Just curious there. And what about this accent of
yours? I ain't got no accent.
MO OK. Just curious there.
Never mind then, I was going to.Say I was going to go somewhere
with that. If you did, when you got accent,
what you think I got? Accent a little bit for real A.
(40:25):
Little accent. I was going to ask you what
people's reactions to your accent outside of DC was like
being in Atlanta. Just curious with what their
reaction to you and your, you know, your slang, your lingo and
your accent is. Oh yeah, yeah, but that's OK.
What about this? Something with DC here?
What's your opinion on Mumbo sauce?
(40:48):
I love it. Mumbo sauce on everything.
Can you explain to? The audience?
What that is exactly? Special sauce.
I guess because they ain't got it over here like eggs, little
wings, spat something like mumbosauce.
They ain't got it out of here because that's a special sauce.
Now when? It comes to the.
DC area Who makes it the best 30time?
(41:14):
And any particular establishment.
There, Yeah. Me got it now.
When it comes to mumbo sauce, McDonald's released, for a
limited time, a mumbo sauce themselves.
Did you? Recall that.
Do you remember that? Did you know that even took
(41:35):
place? No, I knew.
I knew it took place. I seen.
It on the commercial jump on thelower commercial jump.
Did you get a chance to try it at?
The time, no, I wouldn't even try it.
I only eat McDonald's why would I try McDonald's?
What was that they just trying things now?
Just wanted to see if you're just.
Wanted to see what your opinion was if you had one there and
you'll see. OK.
(42:02):
Is there a difference? Between a baddie and a beautiful
woman, I don't feel like there'sno.
I don't feel like there's no difference because if she's
beautiful, she a baddie. Now how do you pull one?
How do I pull one? Yes, How do you pull a baddie?
Or a beautiful woman, I'm going to say.
(42:23):
Just keep looking. At them and then.
They they, they holla at them, spit that venom in her ear.
How big is? Fashion for you at this point, I
ain't going. I ain't really.
Into fashion for you. I ain't into fashion.
I like Under Armour a lot though.
I like Under Armour now before we get into.
(42:45):
Under Armour here. Why is fashion not big for you?
That can be really a big deal for some.
No, because I ain't really grow up.
On fashion for real, I just liketo be.
I like to get flat, but if I could wear a sweat suit with
Under Armour sweat suit every day, I would man.
But it'd be like man, switch it up, throw some jeans on for the
video. And so that's what I'd be doing.
(43:05):
I'd do that. Got it.
But when it comes. To Under Armour, what is it
about them and their brand for you that you put on top compared
to other brands? Because there's some that like
others. That's that ninja suit.
Right there, man. I love that, that dry fit, man.
They just it. Go with it.
Go with everything. Yeah, man.
You could throw them on with thedesigners, got to throw them on
(43:26):
with Valenciaga now. I just used to throw them on
with the Diors, but you got to throw them on with Valenciaga
now. So they cool, they cool.
Now be that as it. May can you break down your
entire outfit during this interview From head to toe?
When I got on yes. When I got like a spider hoodie
on Young Thug, Joe Amiris Diors.Shit ain't nothing.
(43:52):
Shit ain't about nothing. And what about the watch?
Here little role. Shit ain't about nothing.
Little role shit ain't about nothing.
I ain't bothering nobody. Just curious there.
And when it comes to any of these brands you just mentioned
for transparency, are you sponsored by any of these
designers or brands mentioned inthis portion of questions?
(44:18):
Now circumstances could be. Different for everyone and
although you humbly say you're not into fashion like that,
still, we'll ask you this in case you have an answer.
But any fashion tips or fashion advice for those in the
audience? Nah.
I ain't got no fashion. I ain't really no fashion type
of guy. Just curious.
(44:39):
I'm like all. Right.
Well, that was pretty simple. Sometimes that can be a very
deep subject for some recording artists.
OK, just about done here. WAP maybe one more for you.
We just one more. Let me just double check my
(45:05):
questions here. Yeah, you answered pretty much
everything. Oh, I do want to ask you this.
OK, I know you didn't get a. Chance to do it during the
interview, but I'll still ask you this anyways.
OK, when it comes to your past history of drug use, and this
(45:31):
could be any substance you've experimented with in the past,
do you have a horror high story?A bad experience while you were
high. Damn Slim, I'm trying to.
Think I have remember I had I had took an edible one time or
so. I was just this when I was in
(45:51):
school though, I had took an edible.
I was high shit. I'm like man, I just you know,
when you get too high, you just pray that man, please take it
down. Just like please, please,
please. Hi.
Shit. Yeah, but that shit ain't both
dying now. Now.
Was that your first? Time ever trying an edible?
Yeah. That was my first time trying
to. Ever Because you know when you
(46:12):
ask, you smoke a lot of that weed, smoke a lot of that weed
and this was a cannabis. Edible.
Yeah, cannabis that weed out of.Weed.
Only did weed and drink a littlelemon.
Got it. And when it comes to your first
experience here, sometimes people end up being in the
hospital for that sort of thing.They take too much, they don't
know what they're doing, that sort of thing.
(46:33):
Did it ever get almost to that point for you where you almost
had to be seen by a professionalover this high?
No, I ain't going to say that now.
It was. Just, you know, they call your
mother in school how they got eyes all low, where they kick
you out. So my mother had to deal with
me, man. But it wasn't really nothing
like that. And what was her reaction?
Having to come get you for this edible First thought she tried
(46:56):
to slap. The help out of me but it didn't
work so I'm. Still laughing at.
Everything ain't feeling nothingbut listen.
Hey, that's what happened. And do you?
Remember what grade this was? Back then, line grade, line
grade, line grade. Didn't care to share the name of
the school you. Attended.
Back in those days, I attended friendship.
Collegiate. And since.
(47:19):
This horror high story of yours,Have you quit edibles?
Were you one and done with that moment there?
Yeah, I was 1 and done. I ain't like.
The feather. Never again for you.
Yeah, and. Speaking of your education here.
How far did you get with that? Where I graduated.
Graduated high school. Yeah, I graduated now.
(47:40):
There are some that go beyond. High school they further their
education. Was there any thoughts on that
for you? I ain't going to laugh once I
graduated. High school, I was done.
It was all the way from that. What was your mentality back?
Then with that, why done for youafter 12th grade?
Because it's time to get some. Paper I ain't.
It's time to get some paper. If anything, I was going to go
(48:00):
to college and get some paper. That's what I was going to
college for, to get some paper, but I ain't really It was over.
It's. Over chasing some money, man, I
had to go. Chase me a bankroll.
I'm out of school now. My deuce can't do nothing for
me. Got to move out.
Let's go. Ain't saying she put me out, but
that's my mentality. I got to go hit the ground
(48:23):
running. Now.
Any. Regret with that decision.
Making looking back on how everything's played out in your
life, making that decision to stop your education after 12th
grade, well, I'm going to say myIf I can't do.
That I probably wouldn't be herewith you right now.
So I feel like every decision I made was a good decision.
(48:43):
Now when it came to your. Schoolmates.
Your classmates? Did any of them end up becoming
well known or famous themselves?Not that.
Not that I went. To school with somebody that
that just got drafted though, I think like 3 people though, they
just got drafted to the NFL likewe was in the same same
(49:05):
graduation class OK never had classroom with.
Them just in the same slot I hadlike.
Think I had one. Class and one of them.
Though And I know him, though I know him though I know.
Do you want to share who? Forgot.
It I forgot his name, I forgot. It now I know him now I just was
looking at his page, OK. Well, let me ask.
You this moving forward. When kids grow up, sometimes
(49:26):
they have aspirations of what they want to be or what they
want to do when they get older. Sometimes it works out,
sometimes it does not. Did you have?
Any once. Upon a time, say one more time,
OK? Sometimes when kids are.
Growing up, they say I want to be this.
When I grow up, I want to be that.
Sometimes it works out for them and sometimes it doesn't.
(49:46):
So for example, some people say,hey, when I grow up I want to be
a fireman. Some people.
End up becoming that. Fireman they wanted to be, but
sometimes they go a whole different route that has nothing
to do with that. So for you, did you have any
aspirate? Did was there something you
wanted to be career wise? You know, as a kid growing up,
you want. To be in the field style,
basketball style, that was the only job.
(50:07):
That's it. I wanted to be in the field
style, basketball style, but it didn't break out.
Why not? Yeah, the high school roommates
was too. Big try to play football,
basketball and the cardio. So I'm like fuck it, I'm
talking. I'm already talking, so fuck
that shit I'm talking is what itis.
(50:27):
Now be that as it may. How far did you get with any of
those sports? Did you at least play maybe like
JV? Yeah, JV Lord.
JV shit want none. I ain't play high school JV
though, because 9th grader I wouldn't.
I'm in 9th grade. I'm there like they in 12th
grade. So I'm like my football, like
for me, I ain't got time for allthat.
(50:48):
No, I'm talking. At this.
Point, do you? Consider yourself a full time
recording artist, yes. Did you ever?
Foresee that. Back then growing up for you,
No. So does that surprise you?
The fact that you wanted to be an athlete and the fact that you
(51:09):
end up doing music instead. Yeah, it.
Surprised me a lot but. I'm like, I'm just happy how far
I came. But I always knew I'd be
something though, like somethingdid people.
Say this about. You too.
Did people have that hunch or that feeling that you were going
to be someone growing up? Would they ever use phrases like
(51:30):
you're going to be a star one day, you're going to be a
superstar? I can see it.
Yeah. I don't know in what?
I don't know what exactly, but Ifeel like you can be someone
really famous one day. Would people say these things to
you growing up? Yeah, some people say.
I could be a comedian. That's when I was a kid, though.
That's when I was a kid. Some people say you could be a
(51:51):
comedian. My mother.
Always told me I'm going to be a.
Star So I just believe everything my mother said on the
comedic. Side of things, were you like a
class clown back then or? Yeah, I was a class clown.
I was a class. Clown.
I was a class clown and why for you?
Where did that stem from? Like being funny back in those
days, being a class clown was, was it something that drove you
(52:14):
to those jokes and things of that nature?
I don't even know it like hanging around.
My my father, like my baby, my father crack a lot of jokes.
My mother, she funny for real. So just just doing that then
chilling with my friends, they say I'm funny.
I won't even be doing nothing funny, but it'd be funny though.
You get what I'm saying? And do you know what type?
Of funny that was back then. Like, were you sarcastic back
(52:37):
then? Was it like slapstick stuff?
Like, you know, physical humor or no?
Physical humor or not. Just cracking Lord jokes or
realistic funny or something. You get what I'm saying?
When it comes to. This interview that we just
completed, is there anything else that needs further
(52:59):
clarification? Is there anything else that you
want to add to what you said during this conversation?
Is there anything perhaps you want to subtract from what you
said, retract from what you said?
No, I'm going to say man, I. Feel like this was a good
interview. I got all my points across.
For real? You mean ain't got too much to
say for real? Any last?
Words before we leave here. Just go scream that tape, man.
(53:22):
Kill or be killed screaming man.Run it up to the roof.
Let's go.
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