Hot Boy Turk Breaks Down "Joseph" Album, CeeLo Green, Lil Wayne, Kodak Black, Emani (Full Interview)

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What is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
I think ad libs is very important man.
I'm from the old school so I still like to make sure that my
music feel full. So I do like a three track.
I do like, you know, the lead track, the in and out and the ad

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Lib, you know what I'm saying? And that's it.
Anything else could be mixed andmastered how the engineer do it.
So, you know, keep it simple andmove on.
Now when it comes to your ad libs, just on that for a second
here. Do you have a strategy when you
implement them and how you implement them?
When it comes to the ad libs, I just do what I feel, you know

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what I'm saying? I like to like say words twice
sometimes. I like to animate, you know what
I'm saying. And I just like people to see my
personality when I'm doing my adlibs.
Now be that as it may, do you have a signature ad Lib by any
chance? Yeah, I got a signature ad Lib.

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Wait, hold up. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
dig? And these are all separate ad
libs. Or this is something you do all
together? I just do them, you know,
whenever I feel it. But you're going to get that
weight hold up or they. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're going to get that in the show.
Now, what are the meanings behind these ad libs when you

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implement them? It's just something that came
up, man, you know what I'm saying?
And I noticed repetitiously I was doing it and the fans caught
on to it. And when when the fans repeat
something, I know that's something that they like.
So I always do something for my fans to keep them happy.
Now, when it comes to each of these adverts here, were you the

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first recording artist to ever do any of them?
I believe I was the first to do it the way I did it, but I don't
think I was the first to ever doanything because.
Nothing new under the sun. Were you inspired by anybody in
particular with either of these adverts here?
I wouldn't say I was inspired byanybody, you know, I just do me,
man. I like the trend set.

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I don't follow trends. You know what I'm talking about.
Now when it comes to collaborating with other
recording artists, which you do,have you ever added your ad libs
to another artist verse on the same song?
No, I never added my ad libs on another artist verse.
I don't think they want to have my ad libs.

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I think a artist would prefer tohave have it they way you know,
I'm saying that's something special.
You, you you making it be what you want it to be.
Because some artists have done that in the past, so didn't know
what your experience was with that.
And what about this slight twisthere?
What's your opinion on songs with an artist's ad libs on

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them, but no hook or verse from that?
That artist in particular. It's just their ad libs
sprinkled throughout the track. I think that's lazy, man, You
know what I'm saying? I think that's cheating the
fans, you know, like. These days, man, especially me,
being where I'm at in my age andthings, I want to hear
substance. I don't want to hear a bunch of

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ad libs and a good beat, you feel me?
Like you. Cheating us?
Well, well, let me just give youa concrete example to make sure
we're on the same page here, just to avoid any confusion.
So Kanye West has a song called Can't Tell Me Nothing.
Jeezy ad libs throughout the song, but no hooker from Jeezy
on that song. It's just his ad libs sprinkled

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throughout. What's your opinion on that?
Maybe he wanted to, you know, get that Jeezy vibe, you know,
'cause like I said, the ad libs is a vibe.
So if if if Kanye did it, man, it was unique.
Now he's not the only one to do this, there are several other
examples, but what's your opinion on that?
An artist ad libs sprinkled throughout a song but no hook or

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verse from them on that song. Just to rewind it one more time,
I. Think that's cool if you want to
put somebody ad libs on your song, long as you got clearance
to do that, you know what I'm saying?
I don't think you should go go around taking people ad libs
just to make it seem like you got a verse so you got their
permission to do it, you know what I'm saying?

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You need to make sure it's clear.
Now just stepping back here for a second and just thinking of
this equation and artists ad libs sprinkled throughout a
song. Have you ever been asked for
this request personally and viceversa?
Would you be open to something like that in the future?
Actually, this is something new to me that I'm hearing.

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You know, I'm saying, yeah, I, Iwould be more than happy to do
my ad libs and somebody's song. You know, they want me to get in
there. I I do that.
Especially when it comes to yoursignature ad libs which you
mentioned. And let me just for the audience
give some other examples. Just so Kanye West is not
alienated here. Childish Gambino has a song

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called This is America Young Thug ad libs but no hooker verse
from Thug on that song. Little Yachty has a song called
Who want to smoke Black boy JB ad libs, no hooker verse from
black boy JB on that song. And the Carters, that's when
Jay-Z and Beyoncé are together. They have a song called Apeshit
Migos ad libs on the song but nohooker verse from the Migos on

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it at all. So this is something that others
do. Don't know how prevalent it is
at this point, but just curious on what your state of mind is on
that equation. There, Yeah, I think that's
cool, man. Like I said, this is my first
time really just hearing that. And now I'll get at more
attention. You know, I'm a person that like
to hear something like the substance of a, of a, of a song.

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So I, I wouldn't be paying attention to the ad Lib to the
beat. You know, I'm saying I'm paying
attention to what you're saying.And if you're not saying
nothing, I'm moving on to the next.
Can you explain to the audience everything they need to know

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about Joseph? Man, you know, Joseph is more of
a personal piece for me when I was incarcerated, man, I read
the story of Joseph in the Biblein Genesis chapter 37 through
50. And when I read it, man, I saw
so much similarities in my life.Joseph was lied on, he was

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betrayed, he was hated on, you know, he was sold into slavery,
he was put in prison, you know, But do it all, man.
He kept his faith in God, you know what I'm saying?
He never did stir to the left orto the right.
He kept his eyes on God, you know, And when he went through
his situation, man, and you know, after he came out of it,

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he basically was like the devil meant it for bad and God meant
it for good. He sucked me ahead of you ought
to save your life, you know. So I saw similarities in my
life. You know a lot of people be
saying man, you know why you always smiling and you go
through so much or why you always you know, on a positive
tip when people be seeming like they so negative against you,

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You know what I'm saying? It's because my relationship
with God, you know, I know that the favor on my life comes from
God. I know that when you doing the
right things, you're going to suffer from doing right.
I know that the devil meaning itfor bad and God meaning it for
meaning it for good. You know what I'm saying?
So when you know that man, you just walking on assignment and
you waiting on you know the big way where God going to deliver

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you into what you was went through all that in the
beginning for you feel me. So that's that's what my take on
this, this whole movement of Joseph man and a lot of people,
they they they see they self in the whole display or how I
displayed it to the world. You know, people hit me up and
they cry like man, I'm Joseph too.

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I can relate to that too. You know what I'm saying?
So it's more spiritual than anything.
Now let's sidestep for a second.Just on that topic there, do you
follow religion by any chance at?
This point, yeah, I'm a firm believe in Jesus Christ.
You know, I read the Bible, basic instructions before
leaving earth. That's why I was bought up from

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you know what I'm saying. And you know, my personal
relationship with God. Man, like a lot of people, you
know, follow religion, I follow spirituality.
You know, I don't believe that you have to go to church and
find God. I believe that God is in your
heart. The way you treat people, you
know, I'm saying the way you love people, you know, I'm

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talking about God is love. So if you walking around in love
and you displaying all the fruits of God's you know what
I'm saying characteristics, thenyou God fearing and you know
what I'm saying? I know that God lives in you.
I don't too much get into religion.
You know, I feel like religion just is a set of rules that man
made and you know what I'm saying?

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Used it for their benefit. Now, prior to this line of
thinking that you have now and your outlook and things of that
nature, how were you raised exactly?
Was it more spiritual or was it under a religion and a set of
rules as you describe? Well, coming from a Christian
household, my mother always toldme about Jesus.
You know, my mom always went to church with the next door

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neighbor. I always see my Mama praying,
reading her Bible. And you know, we said had to say
our grace at the table. You know, I'm talking about I
was brought up that way. So it wasn't no religion.
It just was a way of life. You know, I'm saying you had to
have a relationship with God after having a praying Mama and

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seeing your Mama display these attributes, you know what I'm
saying? It's like, how can you not be
from that in your adult life? As you walk through life, know
that this is the only way to overcome things in this world,
you know what I'm saying? So it was easy for me, though I
strayed away as I was getting old and gone through my
experiences in life, you know, fighting drugs, the demons, you

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know what I'm saying? Peer pressure and all these
things. I had to basically go back to
where I came from in order to get myself together.
You know, I'm saying we all, I feel we all, that Once Upon a
time go through the same transition.
Now, you mentioned incarcerationhere, and sometimes when people
are incarcerated, they will explore other religions and

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values from others and things ofthat nature that they're
surrounded by. Did you take a second to explore
other facets and other lines of thinking before you honed in
back into the Bible and things of that nature?
Or you just were honed in on theBible during that time?
My relationship with God, you know, have always been solid.

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But when you have other religions and you hear other
conversations, I'm a man of information, you know what I'm
saying? I love to, you know, learn new
things. So I'm never closing my ear to
knowledge. So when you hear people talking
about different religions in different, you know what I'm
saying walks of life, I'm alwaysopen for that.

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But I'm looking for that common factor that we all supposed to
walk, no matter what your religion may be.
And that's love because God is love.
We all have that one thing in common.
So when you're not doing that and I see you just trying to be
smarter than the next guy, just with the knowledge that you
know, then I feel like you're not a part of what you saying

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you is, you know, I'm saying. So I learned how to, you know,
basically look at the spirit of every individual and could tell
if they relationship is solid ornot.
And was there any sort of, for lack of better phrase, peer
pressure while you were incarcerated to explore other
religions or be a part of other factions and things of that

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nature? In that room, it never was any
kind of peer pressure, no force.I have to be this way.
I have to believe in this. You know what I'm saying?
In prison, man, it's about respect, you know, And you hear
all the things that go on and this, this, that, you know what
I'm saying? That'd be a whole bunch of
bullshit. You know what I'm talking about.

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If you carry yourself in a respectable way, man, you going
to be safe. You going to make it through
them the way how you is the way how it going to be.
You know what I'm saying? And that's how it was for me.
You know, people saw me. One of my sellers was Muslim,
you know what I'm saying? And I was Christian, you know,
Christ believer, you feel me? But when you when you listen to

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what they what they saying, it'skind of similar and everybody
believe a little bit of the sameway.
You know what I'm saying? But it to me, some of the things
that's that I believe it kind oflike override a lot of other,
you know, beliefs to me, that's my opinion, you know what I'm
saying? And everybody's entitled to

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their own opinion. That's the cheapest commodity in
the world. You know what I'm saying?
That's why we all got it. But you know, I believe that you
know the way I my relationship is with God, man like he not
going to mislead me and he haven't misled me yet.
You know what I'm talking about.Now back to the conversation of
this body of work. Do you consider this project an

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album or a mix tape? No, this project is an album, a
masterpiece. You know, it's something that I
expected it to be because beforeit came out, I told people that
it was going to be one of the best.
And the reason why I know that to be true, man, is because I

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was going through so much. And I feel like what comes from
the heart going to always touch the heart.
You know, I'm saying from the beginning all the way to the
end. 17 tracks on there and I had a lot of people who listen
to the album that really meant some in my life that I know when
they heard it, they was going totell me the truth.
So in the whole time of me creating this project, they was

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there creating it with me. You know what I'm saying?
Now, I don't think you need to do this.
I don't think you need to say itlike that.
You need to do it like this, youknow?
And I was open minded to other people's opinion of how this
structure should be, You know what I'm saying?
So when you have a team, like a lot of people try to do things
on their own and say this is howit going to be.
I didn't try that. This is how it going to be.

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This time I tried the whole operation, my whole Y&T team, my
wife leading the pack, you know what I'm saying?
And it all worked out, man. And pardon the brain fog here,
but have you done a mix tape before?
Yeah, all my life since I've been home, not my wife say stop
saying all my life. But since I've been home, man,

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I've been dipping and dabbing, you know, mix tape and EP in it.
You know, I feel like this is though album that since Young
and Thuggin, which was my first solo album.
So I dropped that in 2001 I believe.
So 24 years later it took me to drop another album.
Young and Thuggin was a way of life for me.

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Joseph is a way of life for me. You know what I'm saying?
I feel like when you do a album,it need to be a way of life and
it should be a variety of different experiences in your
life where people can say, damn,I can relate to that.
I can relate to that experience.I can relate to that experience,
to where the whole album is relatable and that's what I gave
to the people. Now, just a little bit more

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insight on the title itself. Was this a title that you came
up with or someone coined for you?
No, Joseph was a title that I came up with when I was in
prison. Like I said, that was one of the
best books of the Bible that I read because my life was Joseph.
You know what I'm saying? And I saw a vision of everything

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that's transpiring right now. I seen it before it happened.
You know, that's why I'd be so calm.
That's why I'd be. So I smile.
I get mad because I'm human at times.
But I know that I had to go through and I have to go through
the things I'm going to to get to where I need to be.
And right now I have rain this course, you know what I'm

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saying? I'm right there to where the
blessings is about to be bestowed.
You know what I'm saying? And a lot of people who meant
bad, you know what I'm saying? They don't have to come back in.
They're going to have to need, they going to need me to no go
to the next level. They going to need me to eat.
They going to need me, you know,and I'm not saying that in a

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cocky, arrogant way. It's just the way how God has
wrote me written it. You know what I'm saying?
Like he chose me for this time, bro.
And just like people when I was speaking and saying I was going
to have the best album, people were like, man, whatever,
whatever. Those same people who like
whatever, whatever is coming back saying you know what, man,
I didn't believe you. I thought that it was going to

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be some bullshit. But I have to say you was right.
So I'm walking in purpose on assignment.
You know what I'm saying is not just any album, it's a God
fearing album that's going to change and impact the world,
bro, You know what I'm saying? And that's just what it is.
You know what I'm saying? And only people who are people

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of fate going to understand whatI'm saying.
And people who are not of fate, they're going to become
believers. And then the demons are going to
continue to be mad and extra mad.
That's what this album is going to do.
Now, just for clarification here, you knew you wanted to
create an album titled Joseph when you were incarcerated.
When I was incarcerated, I knew that I was going to create an

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album titled Joseph, you know, that was one of my favorite
books in the Bible. You know, I didn't know when it
was, but my vision, it was manifesting and I was saying
like signs and symbols for the conscious mind.
So if you got a connection with God, you going to know when it's

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time. You don't know when it's time.
So the times might seem like it's a bad time to people who
are walking in a carnal mind. But when you have that spiritual
relationship, you know, I'm saying, and my walk is a
spiritual connection with God, the time is going to be revealed
because my mind is conscious now, you know, I'm saying I'm

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not no longer on heroin and cocaine.
So I can see now, you know, I'm saying I got my my backbone, my
rib, my wife. You know, I'm saying God say
when you find a wife, you find agood thing and receive favor
from him. So everything that I have from
the relationship that God talk to me and tell me about our
already knew it was going to happen.

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Bro, you know what I'm saying and the world is about to see
tremendous things from this project.
You know what I'm saying and I'mspeaking and I'm saying it
because I'm on assignment for God.
You know what I'm saying? This is God.
So so when it happened, people are going to give God the glory.
You feel me, not me is is biggerthan me.

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I'm just being a vessel, being chosen and being obedient to the
walk. That's it.
And Speaking of heroin and cocaine, there was a time you
were once a user of each of those substances.
How were you able to quit each of them in its totality?
It was a fight, it was a battle,man, When you got that gorilla,

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that monkey man turn into a gorilla on your back, bro.
Every day is like, man, I reallydon't want to do this, but you
don't know how to quit because it's a mental and it's a
physical thing, you know, and the only thing that can get you
off of it is God. You know what I'm saying?
I in my life, bro, I had to get through things with nothing but

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God. When I was in prison, nothing
but God. When I was on drugs, nothing but
God. When my wife was going through
her, you know, breast cancer situation, nothing but God.
Everything that I ever went through being in the industry,
sign the cash money, nothing butGod, you know what I'm saying?
People betraying me. Nothing but God, so you know,

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like like everything just been spiritual man like you know, I
can't explain it, but a person that got a relationship with
God, they on the other side of that camera and they like man.
This is why I have a connection to him, because it's a spiritual
connection. It's not because I'm hot boy
Turk See a lot of people who on the on the on the outside

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looking in as walking in the Colonel mine, they might think
man, you hot boy Turk and you got this.
You got that hot boy Turk is a curse.
You know what I'm saying? But Tab Virgil, the man of God,
AKA Joseph is blessed. You feel me?
So it took me to become Hot boy Turk to save some of the people.

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It took me to become, you know, a part of that industry to save
and do what I'm doing right now.You know what I'm saying?
So I'm just walking the walk, bro, and, and not being a
hypocrite. You know what I'm saying?
Like I say, I'm not perfect, youknow, I, I make mistakes, you
know, and they are revealed and is transparent to the world.

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Some people might say, man, you talk too much, you need to be
quiet. I feel like I'm at an age in my
my life right now where I don't have to be quiet.
If I'm telling the truth, Telling the truth is not hating.
I got this thing. If you tell a lie on me, I'm
going to tell the truth. You feel me?
So it took a lot of things for that to be able to be cool.

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You know what I'm saying? Like for the snitching
situation, at Once Upon a time, snitching was like a it was
looked down upon, you know what I'm saying?
Now people snitch and they become famous and you know, the
kids don't care about that. Snitches used to get stitches.
They used to be a saying. Now snitches get riches.

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You feel me? So when when, when they was able
to start accepting that if you can't accept a person walking in
this truth, I used to think if aperson violates you legally
through music for as if they oweyou money and things, I used to
think that was snitching. So you know what I'm saying

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before I file a lawsuit, before I do this, before I do that, I
try to settle it out of court. You know what I'm saying?
Because I don't want to get the jacket of being a snitch.
But when they started honoring the snitches, it's like if you
violate me, me getting my lawyers on top of the business
is the right thing to do. You know what I'm saying?
So my walk with God have opened my mind to, to, to other ways of

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seeing how this life is set up. You feel me?
And I'm just walking on purpose now, bro, you know what I'm
saying? And nothing could stop me but
me. And pardon the brain fog here,
but as outspoken as you are, andsome people have seen your
outspokenness, like on social media, on your Instagram, for
example, and things of that nature, you posting something on

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your timeline or maybe you goinglive on Instagram and and now
they see some of your clips on YouTube and your YouTube
channel. And before I ask you this next
question, just in case there aresome fraudulent profiles of you
online, care to share your official username, screen name,
handle on IG as well as YouTube as well?

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My Instagram is original hot boyTurk.
That's my official Instagram. My YouTube is original hot boy
Turk. My Instagram is the same as my
YouTube. My Twitter is hot boy Turk, the
number 32, you know what I'm saying?
And my I'm on Tiktok, Original hot boy Turk Snapchat, you know,

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and everything else, man, I'm oneverything that's social and my
Facebook is my government name tab Virginia.
And care to share the Snapchat screen name as well?
Our original hot boy. It's hurt.
Now, as outspoken as you are, has there been any thoughts and
again, part in the brain fog here, you can correct me if I'm
wrong. Has there been any thoughts on
harness harnessing this outspokenness of yours into a

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your own podcast or your own live streaming channel and
things of that nature? I do have my own podcast Telling
the Truth and I hate and when I go live, I feel like that's me
letting the world into my life. You know, my podcast partner, be
high, you know, be high ATL. You know, you can catch us be

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high ATL on YouTube. You know what I'm saying?
We always doing our thing. Shout out to WIC as another
podcast partner, you know what I'm saying?
And I think content who the people who create content and
not consume it or you know what I'm saying, special individuals,
bro, you know what I'm talking about.
And today, in these days of time, if you not creating

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content, you're lost in the South like you, you, you left
behind. You know what I'm saying?
People might not understand who living like a dinosaur, you know
what I'm saying? They might be like, you know,
getting mad at me from being outspoken and talking, but then
5 minutes later they start doingthe same thing.
So it's like somebody going to get on social media, whether you

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do it now or you do it later, everybody wants to be seen at
Once Upon a time. Everybody wants to be heard at
Once Upon a time. You know, I'm saying sometimes
you might just beat people to it.
You know, man, you was talking and, you know, I'm not going to
discuss the contents, but you know, people always would try
to, you know, do the things you do after you do it.

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You know I'm talking about people will find a way to slick
hate you and be envious and jealous and you know what I'm
saying? So when you slip up 1 little
time or you take 1 little break,you'll be like damn man, the
whole time you want to be in my position, you know what I'm
saying? So you got to stay working bro.
You got to stay at it because somebody is trying to take your
spot. And that's what I do every

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single day since I've been home out the penitentiary for 13
years straight. It got me where I'm at now.
My name still rang and 20 years later, bro, like, you know what
I'm saying? Like it's nothing but God, man,
you know, it's not no major label behind me, no major back
in me and my wife and my team and we just, you know, give the
fans, which are my friends always never shaded what they

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want. You know what I'm saying?
Now, what about stress? OK, for those in the audience
that I've seen you deal with incarceration and you mentioned
your wife's breast cancer. And for transparency, she's off
camera to the side of you. During this interview, you
mentioned, you know, the hate that you've received from being
outspoken and things of that nature.

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Do you feel like this point in your life, though?
Do you feel like this is the most stressful you've ever been
in in your shoes? Or do you think this has been
the most, the least stress that you've dealt with?
You know, when it says stress, man, I think stress is brought
on you by your thoughts. You know, if you keep your
thoughts on positivity, you can't stress, you know?

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And my wife, man, she's a firm believer of correcting what you
say out of your mouth, you know,the way you think, you know,
like, if I didn't have her in mylife, I probably would be
stressed out. But I have somebody to remind me
that Leave it alone. Get at the guard, you know what
I'm saying? You always got to have somebody

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that knows you, that know when something is wrong, you know
what I'm saying? So they could come tell you some
positive, encouraging words to get you through, you know what
I'm saying? So you know, and we do that with
each other, you know what I'm saying?
We uplift each other, we motivate each other, and we keep
on working. We Make Love, make money.
And I think that keep the stresslevels down.

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But us human beings going to have stress, you know what I'm
saying? It's how you deal and how you
react to it, you know what I'm saying?
They're going to determine how far go in there, if it's going
to affect your health. And when we study, we study.
That is if you stress, that's what it does.
So don't nobody want to be all stressed out, man.
So, well, you know what I'm saying?

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You, you, you can't do nothing else, you know what I'm saying?
So we try to keep it positive, bro, and we keep it positive.
Now I do want to talk about the relationship of you 2 together a
little bit further in this conversation, but I do have a
relatively quick question in regards to her when it comes to
you and her relationship. Is this an opposites attract

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sort of thing? You guys are two polar opposites
of personalities or are you guysagain for lack of a better
phrase, 2 peas in the same pod? You guys think a lot alike
similar to one another. How?
How is this? Relationship me and her was the
same it'll work you know she's aCapricorn and I'm Aquarius.
We both strong minded individuals, you know, I'm

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saying, and it's like, you know,when, when our mind is made-up
on something, that's just what it is.
We just find a common ground, you know what I'm saying?
And sometimes we have to agree to disagree.
We improvise with each other a lot, you know, and we, we, we
love each other. We loyal to each other, bro.
So when you when it's like that,me and my wife have an argument
every day. When, when I I hear couples

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saying they don't argue, I don'tbelieve that, you know what I'm
saying? Because when you have two
different individuals, you goingto crash, you feel me?
It's how you react and how you sustain in that relationship
that matter. Like, do you really love this
person? If you love this person, you
ain't going to keep on doing thesame thing.
You might you might do somethingsimilar, but you ain't going to

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keep doing the same thing. That's insanity.
Like that ain't going to never change.
But we didn't have, you know, clashes.
We, we, we were fussing before we got here.
We fuss every day, you know whatI'm saying?
But we love each other more every day, you know what I'm
saying? And that's just, I think that's
what keep us together. Bro, you feel me?
Like you can't fake and make it seem like Internet life

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everything is all Peaches and cream as cap.
Now back to the project at hand here.
As far as the artwork for this project, can you explain to
those in the audience the concept behind it?
Unless it's self-explanatory here.
It's self-explanatory. As you can see, Joseph was
betrayed by his brothers. On the album cover, you can see

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his brothers trying to put him in a hole, which in the Bible
story, they tried to put Joseph in a hole, you know, and they
was coming up with a plan to to lie to his daddy about him
saying that wild animals have killed them.
But he was wind up being sold into slavery.
You know what I'm saying? And mine is very symbolic to my

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life. But like, I didn't been, you
know, do a lot of stuff with my my brothers, you know what I'm
saying? A love hate relationship, you
know what I'm saying? Sometimes I feel like it may be
a little jealousy and now you know what I'm saying a little
envious, you know, I have been betrayed, lied on, you know, and

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just left stranded. Feel like you know what I'm
saying it sometimes it's just me, you know what I'm talking
about. So I wanted to talk about this
on my album. Like my album is not a diss
record, but it's a dismiss. Like I'm standing up for myself
now. I'm no longer being behind
anybody. I'm in the front now.
You know what I'm saying? And I think it rubs people the

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wrong way to be that way. As long as I'm saying I'm the
weaker link, I think it make people comfortable.
But when you have grown and you have learned how to, you know
what I'm saying, live in the waywho you is and walk in the truth
of who you really is, it kind ofirritate a lot of people's
spirit, bro, you know what I'm saying?
And you would think that people who you got love for, people who

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you lawyer to would be happy that you have arrived at that
state in your mind. You know what I'm saying?
That that that particular place in your life.
But sometime it be the people that's close to you that hate
you the most for mere larity brings on disrespect.
You know what I'm saying? And that cover just is symbolic
to that, not just to my brothers, but you know what I'm

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saying, to people in the world who, you know, we are all
brothers and sisters under God. You know what I'm talking about.
Now, as far as this artwork in particular, was this something
that you came up with or graphicdesigner here?
I think it was a boat, you know what I'm saying?
Me giving a concept of, you know, where I wanted to go and
what it was because at first they were saying, man, it's too

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preachy or it's too godly. I'm like, that's where I'm at in
my life. It ain't too nothing.
That's what I am. You know what I'm saying?
So I had to get from around the people that were saying that
because they didn't see the vision and God ain't even
allowed it to happen because before I could even get through
it, they try to sabotage the situation.

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You know what I'm saying? But God have a way and he got a
sense of humor, bro, you know what I'm saying?
And when, when he wants something to go forward, man,
it's going to happen no matter what.
And the people who try to sabotage, probably sitting back
like, damn, man, we, I thought we got rid of that.
They probably arguing and fussing with each other because
they were supposed to get rid ofit, but they didn't, you know

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what I'm saying? So it all came together, man,
just from like I say, God gave me the vision in prison and he
say it's time, you know what I'msaying?
And you got to pay attention to the signs and symbols.
You got to pay attention to the things that's happening around
you to know when it's time. The only way you going to see
that you have to be conscious and you have to have that

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relationship with God. And do you want to shout out the
graphic designer to this artwork?
Yeah, shout out to Benji, man, You know what I'm saying?
That's my guy, man. It's crazy, bro.
Like a lot of people that are onmy team are fans, complete
strangers. You know, I tried to work with
people that I was familiar with and it seemed like familiarity

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brings on disrespect. But a stranger, God say, man,
you watch who you entertain, thestranger that you entertain
because it might be an Angel, you know, That's how I know God
is real, bro. Because people who don't know me
are the most loyal to people to me right now.
Most solid, you know what I'm saying?

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And some of them be coming and you'll be like, man, what?
You want something? It'd be too good to be true,
bro. That's how I know it'd be gone.
And I also want to rewind on to something you said here, and
that's something to the effect of you've saved people's lives.
Is this your music saving people's lives?
Is this your story saving people's lives?

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Is this you actually physically saving someone's life?
I think is all of that. You just say, you know, and the
head of it is God, God work through people, you know.
So if I'm being obedient and I'mwalking in assignment, God is
using me as a vessel. You know what I'm saying?

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To to do things that only humanscan do in this world.
You know, sometimes people be sitting back and they be
waiting, saying I'm waiting on my blessing.
I'm waiting on my blessing and wait.
But your blessing can be right in front you.
God working through you, God working through my wife, you
know, God working through different people that I didn't

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encounter throughout the my day.You know what I'm saying?
But if you don't have that relationship and you don't know
how that look, you will neglect that, you know what I'm saying?
You will take it for granted. You feel me?
And when people are reporting back and telling me things, I
just smiled, bro. And me and my wife be like, man,

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that's number God. Because our relationship with
God, we know that's what it is. This album, it wasn't a shock to
us of what it's doing. You know what I'm saying when I
tell you from the beginning to the end, the beginning song with
Cee Lo Green, he take him to church, bro.
He give me that gospel Cee Lo Green and you just don't get no
song from the great Cee Lo Green, bro, you know what I'm

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saying? And the way how he came to me on
this song. I was supposed to do a record
with Cee Lo. I had a video shoot with Ghetto
Mafia, Wicked, him and Cee Lo had a video shoot and Cee Lo had
the scene, the controversy of what was going on with the Hot
Boys reunion. And Cee Lo was like, man, what's

(36:34):
up? And I was surprised that he even
knew who I was. He walked up to me and I was a
fan, you know what I'm saying? I was fanned out, but he was a
fan, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, man, I got the
perfect song for you. So I never did the song for him.
But when I was working on this one song called Best Revenge, I

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say, man, this sound like Cee Loneed to be on here.
He gave me his number. So I reached back out to him.
It was like number God bro. He got on the record and not
only got on the record, he sent me his whole session.
So I got Cee Lo vocals when he was probably messing up on
certain things and he sent me everything because he wanted it

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to be right, bro. You know, I'm saying I know it
wasn't number God. So I'm grateful for Cee Lo
putting his gift on this project, bro.
And I open it up with the great Cee Lo man.
And there's nothing but God all the way through.
So when people is listening to it, people go through or going
through the similarities. Just like when I looked at

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Joseph, I was going through the similarities.
You know what I'm saying? People can relate to it, bro.
And it's changing people's livesbecause it's either giving them
convictions to do the right thing is either inspiring them
to keep on doing the right thing, you know what I'm saying?
But it's making them want to do the right thing.

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And in order to do the right thing in this dirty world, bro,
it can't be nothing but God, youfeel me?
Because as human nature, we wantto do the wrong thing because
it's hard doing right, you feel me?
So when I say changing lives, God is changing lives through
me, through my music, through myministry, you know what I'm

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saying? And I give him all the glory for
it. Ministry.
Just using that word figuratively or you literally
have a ministry. Your testimony, you know, is
your ministry. The thing that you use and do to
bring people close to God is your ministry.
You know what I'm saying? People might think a ministry is

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a church building, you know whatI'm saying?
But your heart what what God lives at.
That's where the church is AT, you know, and doing things now
in these days at times and talking about God is going to
bring more people in because sometimes people be thinking
that they got to go to church. God said come as you are.

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So it ain't no church that you have to go to you know what I'm
saying. But that was what we was taught.
You have to have a renewing in your mind and the way you renew
your mind with repetitions of new information.
You know what I'm saying. So the more you get information,
the more you see God working andother people who not in the
church building. If you know Jesus went outside

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to the sinners. He went set with the sinners.
The sinners wasn't in the church, you know what I'm
saying. So when you know these things it
start to make sense, you know what I'm saying?
And you can change your life forthe better bro.
How many people do you think you've saved their lives?
Man, man, I mean, I couldn't puta number on it, but I know a lot

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of people come up to me and the way how they respond and you
know, I just say millions, bro, you know, now we're all of them
say it. Nah, because some people, you
know, is in silence. Some people suffer in silence.
Some people do good in silence. You know what I'm saying?

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But I know that God is working and they don't have to come to
me and say, man, you did that. You know, you can sense it.
You see, you feel me, anytime you might see somebody on
YouTube who talking bad about you.
Negative just you know making you mad, but you over here now

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and you can't do nothing but accept what's going on, but it's
making you real mad. And then one day you get up and
you see this person and had a change of heart.
God didn't did something you feel me?
You going to send the good? You going to send like, OK,
well, that person do have some type of good in them, you know
what I'm saying? Maybe they is just doing a job.

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Maybe they they think that's theonly way they could do it if I
be negative. But that's not the only way, you
know what I'm saying? And I think this project showing
people that it's other ways other than, you know, pushing
negativity to become, you know, successful.
Now this album was released on July 27th.

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Exactly. Was there any significance
behind that release date? Nah actually man, I don't.
I didn't even know that the Hot Boys released their album on
July 27th some years ago and I found out once my album got
released July 27th that it also was anniversary of the Hot Boys
release. In regards to this project, once

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again, are there any unknown facts four stories in regards to
it that's never been publicly mentioned before?
I'm more of a open book, bro. I feel like it's just a
different format of me telling my story that they see every
day. You know, I'm saying I get more

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people attention because I put abeat behind it, but I'm always
being transparent every day, youknow?
I think with the music and my transparency with the music, it
kind of like made people sit down and listen and you know
what I'm saying? Like I have been podcasting
saying the same things, you feelme?
Some people get mad when they hear the truth just roaring

(42:25):
uncut like that. Well, let me try to do the same
thing with a beat, you feel me? So when you go back to the
podcast, you going to hear me saying the same thing at the
podcast that I'm saying on a beat.
When I'm doing interviews, you don't hear me saying the same
thing that I'm saying on a beat.Everything is the truth, bro,
you feel me? Like I tell no lie.

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I don't have no lie to tell you,feel me?
I live a honest life, you know? I'm 44 years old, bro.
Like I don't have time to play no games and I don't have time
for nobody or no man woman to play games with me, you know?
I'm saying I'm going to be straight up with everybody and I
expect the same thing. It's just respect with me bro,
you feel me? Now you just shared your age on

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camera. There are some recording artists
that will not. Why?
No problem sharing your age here.
Because I embrace who I am. You know, age is nothing but a
number, you feel me? And I'm not in an industry
selling an age. I'm independent.
I'm my own boss. So when I put out anything that

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I'm doing, it's me. You know what I'm talking about.
I'm not trying to fit in, you know, I'm not trying to blend
in. And I think a lot of people, man
be wanting to do the same thing,but they walk in fear.
They'd be scared. You know, I've been in this game
since 14 years old. And that was a lie where they

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were saying that, man, you have to be young.
I used to remember Once Upon a time, I used to shave my
mustache, y'all, because I was told I have to look young.
I need to look young, Stay young.
I'm 44 and I look young right now.
You know what I'm saying? It's some the young dudes and
they saying it's a young man game, but they look older than
me, you feel me? So I think people start

(44:16):
following a trend bro, and get caught up in that trend to where
that trend is not even in no more.
So I'm breaking all of that, youknow, and I'm walking in troop
bro of everything, and God got me.
And just in case there's some misinformation online about you,
care to share your birthday as well?
You shared your sign previously in this conversation.

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But they know my birthday, February the 8th, you know, I'm
81, baby, 44, for real. You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm an open book, bro. Like, you know, I got a book,
The Autotherography of Turkey. If you want to know any more
about my life, you know, I believe in transparency, man.
I believe that we are in today'stime where you really can't hide

(44:58):
anything. So, you know, if I tell you
something about me before somebody else, come tell you a
lie about it. You didn't heard it.
You'd heard it before. So now what they saying, they
don't even have no merit to it because he told us that.
You know what I'm saying? I spoke about everything that
was probably meant to make me look bad.

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I told you. Yeah.
I've been there, done that. I didn't been in prison, you
know, for attempted murder on the police.
I didn't been you know, on heroin and cocaine, you know
what I'm saying? I didn't I didn't been in messed
up contracts and messed up situations, you feel me?
I didn't been in lawsuits, I didn't anything you heard.

(45:41):
I didn't been everything but thelies that they tell bro.
And that's why I always have to speak my truth because if I
don't speak my truth, then they going to believe the lies, you
know what I'm saying? I feel like everybody need to
control their own narrative if they in this business, you feel
me? And being an entrepreneur bro,
is not easy, you know what I'm saying?

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So I got to be the one to make sure that everything is running
smooth in order for me to feed my family.
And Speaking of that book, wherecan those in the audience that
haven't had a chance to know itsexistence or may have seen it
but didn't know where to look for where?
Can they find it from Amazon, Walmart, You know what I'm
saying? lulu.com is global worldwide.

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You can get it directly from me,you know what I'm saying?
Like I say, man, I'm always I got my own app as well, you know
what I'm saying? You can go to the App Store,
Google Play store, type in Hot Boy Turk and get a membership to
get exclusive access. We go live on there.
We got auctions on now. You got my music, you got
exclusive videos content. You know everything that all the

(46:50):
other apps that y'all watching and that y'all are part of.
I was able to get my own app partner with my seat.
You know I'm saying and yeah man, just doing some some
different things. You know, I'm saying just trying
to keep it all together where myfans can, you know, not be
distracted. I feel like having an app, it

(47:11):
eliminates the haters, you know,cuz you have distractions when
you on Instagram, when you on Facebook, you know, you might
want to have the moments with your fans and you talking and
you sharing things with them. And here you got somebody
trolling in the comment, you know, or you got somebody
reporting your page cuz now you didn't got out your character
saying something wrong. Now you paged and got took, you
know, I'm saying so I feel like man, having your own app is a is

(47:33):
a asset that everybody should invest in.
You know, I'm saying and you know, I happen to get mine
before my album came out and crazy part when my album
dropped. So when they go up, somebody did
something. I don't know who it is.
I can't pinpoint who it was and got my whole album to down.

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So I had to go into, you know, hustle mode, you know what I'm
saying, and survival mode. Good thing I had my own app.
I was able to open up my app to the public and send out a
private link. Now my whole album have
basically leaked and I wasn't too pissed off about not getting
those first week spins and streams on Apple from you know

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these 9 million people that thencame to my Instagram out of the
you know all of the controversy and everything.
But I feel like God is working bro.
Like it's time for Joseph and you know it's it's going crazy
man. If y'all haven't heard that
album man from 1 to 17, y'all need to get into it.
And Speaking of the app, is it available on all phones?

(48:39):
Android. Exactly.
Yeah, it's available on all phones.
You know, you just go to your App Store and type in Hot Boy
Turk and there you go. Now, in regards to technology
and things of that nature, I think this next question is
appropriate here, but was there any AI technology used in the
creation of this album at all? No, I didn't use any AIS on this

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album, man. I don't think it would have been
as authentic as it was if I wereto use any AI artificial
intelligence. This album is official, not
artificial. You feel me?
And when I say AI technology, not meaning your voice or things
of that nature, but AI technology could be used some
sort and maybe like the mixing process or the artwork process.

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Everything was hands on, you know what I'm saying?
Everything was, was, was man hands on with it.
Like I say, man, the full structure of it.
I had my team and we gave it to him the way I I knew to give it
to him. You know what I'm saying with
that team, I come from that team.
Cash money was the team that that, that I was a part of, you

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know what I'm saying? When I was a part of cash money.
And I just remember sitting down, you know, with the team
and us, you know, structuring these albums from the title of
them to the to the chorus, to the beat, you know, to the
mixing and the master and, you know, and baby and Slim doing
their thing and taking it to where need to go after that, you

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know, I'm saying it always works.
So I just took what I learned from them and put it into my
project. And that's why you see what you
see everybody saying. It's kind of like reminding them
of that Cash Money sound, but just modern day, you know, and I
think the fans, they, they, they, they, they was longing for
that. And I delivered, bro.

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I delivered that. And let's dive a little bit
deeper with the actual music itself and the tracks here.
There are 17 tracks. Why that amount for this one?
Why not a little shorter, maybe like 15 or maybe a little longer
like 19 or even further than that?
My team, you know, I was trying to put 26 tracks on them.
I'm going to be real, but they were saying that people's

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attention spans are short. But I wasn't thinking of it like
that. I just knew that I had bangers
and I knew they was going to do what they needed to do for the
people. But I listen to the team, you
know what I'm saying? And they was right.
You know, people got short attention spans and, but in my

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defense, a lot of people have been saying from beginning to
end, I let it all the way, right?
I didn't listen to it 5-6 times,you know what I'm saying?
So when I when I hear them say that I'm like, well, I probably
going to put more, but with thatthat more that I didn't put it
leaves run for me to do another project, you know, and seeing
the response after not putting the album out in 24 years, bro,

(51:33):
I have been putting the album out in 24 years and being fully
independent, you know what I'm saying?
Like I learned from the best baby and Slim is man, it is is.
I don't think they could be duplicated, but replicated.
You know what I'm saying? If that's a little bit
different, I feel like I I came and I delivered what cash money

(51:58):
was doing. You know what I'm saying?
When they was doing when we was there, you feel me?
Not saying that Cash Money not doing anything now, but you
know, to that degree of that sound, that sound had left.
It wasn't around anymore due to the fact with Nicki Minaj and
the Drakes and Weezy being Weezy, you change up, you know
what I'm saying? And our fans want that sound

(52:20):
now. That's why we on tour, the
nostalgia of that, you know whatI'm saying?
They missing it. So being able to give them that
old Cash Money on tour and delivered that sound in 2025.
Bro it's going crazy right now. Now, you just mentioned some of
these songs that didn't make it could be used for another
project. Sometimes recording artists will

(52:42):
save some of those extra songs for like a deluxe version to a
body of work of this nature. Has that been a thought?
Perhaps a deluxe? Deluxe most definitely been in
the works, but my manager, for whatever reason that may be
fighting against me doing a deluxe, you know what I'm
saying? But I'm glad you said it in my
manager's presence. You know what I'm saying about

(53:03):
the deluxe. You'll feel me.
So maybe now she'll let me go ahead on and you know, do a
deluxe. You'll feel me.
But now it's all love, bro. Like I believe that, you know,
they going to want more, you know, and I'm going to have to
give them the deluxe for real, because, you know, they they
they wanting it, bro. And it'll go from man, you put

(53:25):
too many into man, we want more.We want an encore, you know what
I'm saying? And that's what this giving bro
is giving that. So I got them.
I got those songs on deck. They're going to make them
respect. And that's all I really want.
I want to respect in this game, because sometimes, bro, people
are trying to keep you in your past.
And if the past narrative was you was one way, you know what

(53:47):
I'm saying? People who don't know you.
And that's all they had. That's what they educated to
seeing and believing. You know what I'm saying?
So my fight that I did, but I had to like basically show and
prove that I'm a different him. You know what I'm saying?
I'm God body, you know what I'm saying?
I didn't experience the lot. I'm open, I'm too open.

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The people is going to feel it you know and that's just what it
is bro and like I don't think the people lying bro.
Like I say I showed you my Instagram high is going crazy.
You know organic, it's organic numbers going crazy since July
27th today the 31st and it's still going up up up up up up

(54:31):
up. So you know what I'm saying any
labels that's out there man? You know y'all probably don't be
looking at me talking about he 44.
He saved his age. Look at the body of work and if
we can partner up, I'm open for that, you know what I'm saying?
But if not, I'm going to show you how we do it.
When you got guard pushing the whole pedal to the metal, you

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know what I'm talking about. Now Speaking of numbers, how did
that narrowing process work going from 26 to 17 year?
Are you able to explain that at all?
Or yeah, what my manager say is 9 times out of 10, she really my
wife. So she'll, she'll just give this
look and it's, it's a get on my nerves type of thing, you know

(55:18):
what I'm saying? To where I give in.
She she the only one can make megive in, you feel me?
So if she really wants something, she going to get it.
So that's what it was. She, she, she, she, she really
wanted it like that and she got it, you know what I'm saying?
But you know, when I come back with this deluxe, because I'm
going to come, she wasn't talking about nothing, you feel

(55:38):
me? And that's just what it going to
be, man. That's how we narrowed it down.
And 17 was the final amount of tracks on this project. 26 was
what you were originally thinking, but how many tracks
did you have to choose from before you even got to?
The hundreds of songs, you know,when you're in the studio, you
just basically recording, you know, you don't even count, you

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just record. I don't count, record what I
feel. If I feel something else, I
might go to the next. I might just do a chorus.
I might just do 2 lines. I might just, you know what I'm
saying. But I write.
I don't freestyle, you know, I, I, I don't like wasting time in
the studio when I go in there, man, I know what I'm going in
there to do, you know, and I'm not in the studio with a bunch

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of people. I really don't even like the
music to be loud because it makemy teeth vibrate or something.
I don't like it, you know, maybeI'm getting older, you know, I'm
saying I don't want to hear all the boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom. You know what I'm saying that
that get to me. But I love music.
I just don't like noise, you know what I'm saying?
Now let's talk about writing here for a second paper or

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phone. Phone.
And why phone for you? Because you can copy and paste
is more easier, you know what I'm saying, versus you getting
paper and you can keep it in your, your notes, you know what
I'm saying, versus losing it. And when you recite these lyrics

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that you've written, do you readthem and record, or do you
memorize them and record? But but you know, if it's a song
that I've been practicing beforeI got to the studio, you know,
I'm, I'm going, it's going to bememory.
But it's, if it's one that I just did, you know, I'm saying,
of course I'm, I'm read it, but I'm going to try to read it to

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where I like the sound like I remembered it by memory.
You know what I'm saying? So if there was a circle chart
of 100%, what percentage do you think it's you reading your
lyrics versus memorizing? I'll say 6040.
And 60 which way, just to be clear. 60 and memorizing it.

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And you mentioned you don't freestyle, have you even tried
it before freestyle? Yeah, when I'm playing around,
you know what I'm saying, But I think freestyle and mad, I can't
give a person a album freestyle,you know, I could give them a
mixtape doing that. Like you know, I got you got to
put your all, you got to pull your heart out.
When I feel like when you're doing an album, you know, I'm

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saying it's personal. You know when you freestyle and
I feel like you just trying to go get a bag, you know, it ain't
that serious. All I got to do is go put some
words together and I get some money right now.
If I don't make a dial off this and I change somebody life.
I did my part. That's the difference from me
doing this project and me doing a mixtape project and I had did

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several mixtape projects, you know, and doing those mixtape
projects, they didn't take all of like this one is taking off.
You know, I'm saying so it is a difference in my thought process
of me knowing that is a difference and then getting the
fruits of knowing that it's the difference.
I was right. And for historical purposes

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here, how did you start out whenit came to music initially?
Was it writing first or freestyling first?
Very, very. When you started off writing,
you know, but that was when I used to write a notebook, spiral
notebooks, composition notebooks, toilet paper, paper
bags, anything that I could write on, you know what I'm
saying? I'm writing.
And when it comes to writing, just winding down the questions

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about that specifically, have you experienced writer's block?
Yes, everybody experienced writer's block, you know what
I'm saying? It be times I probably ain't
writing months, you know what I'm saying.
But when I when I don't be in writer's block, I probably could
make about 1520 sounds, you knowwhat I'm saying, in a week.
You know some people probably dothat in a day, but I don't know.

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But I'm not going to exaggerate.I could probably do it like a
week, you know what I'm saying? When writing excuse me, when
writer's block does take place, how do you cope with that?
I just, you know, let it happen,organic, man.
You can't force it. You feel me or it ain't going to
come out right. Like doing my music, bro.
I have to feel it, you know, because it ain't what you saying

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is how you saying it. If you're not saying it, people
not going to feel it. You feel me?
So I'm coming with that straightfrom the heart, man.
They're about to cut you, you know.
You about to feel it. Like you know.
From the ad libs to the beat to the lyrics to the in and outs.
Everything going to be structured and you don't know.

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Yeah, he yeah, he was serious. Just curious here, what's the
longest you worked on a song? You start it, have writer's
block, you put it down and you end up finishing it at another
point of time. The longest, probably a day and
a half, something like that. Not one of those songs.
You put it down and three years later you find it and like, oh

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OK, not one of those. Just curious there.
Well, in regards to this projectwinding down the questions here
about that the track list, who put this track list order
together? It was a group effort, you know
what I'm saying? I think everybody, you know, the
engineer my wife produces me, you know, falls with the title

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and things. My wife and engineer, the ones
who put it like in format structure, like I think we going
to ride it out like this. We going to slow it down.
We going to speed it up right here.
That was my wife, all my wife, you know what I'm saying?
She wanted to do that. So I guess she was executive
producer. On that part.

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And how long did that take? Just the track list order
itself. Me and my wife actually worked
on a track list at home. We was at home listening to the
radio, you know, and listening to the songs that I had recorded
and we kind of like did a collabnote from the iPhones, you know
what I'm saying? And we just were playing the
music and seeing what sound likewhat and what blend in nice with

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the next. And when we got to the studio,
of course, I had an added more songs.
And you know, she like I said, that's when the argument came
and the disagreement came. And man, my wife disagree.
And bro, she she going to get her way.
She going to wind up getting herway.
I just walked out, man. When I came back in, I'm like,

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that's it. So when she when she when she
strongly arguing me about something, she normally be
right, but I'll be putting her resistance.
You know what I'm saying? But she always be right.
Well then I do want to ask her this question here in particular
if she's open to answering and if not, that's OK.
I know you don't have a mic, butyou can still be heard When it

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came to the track list. Was there any strategy in
regards to the track list order?Yeah, it was.
We definitely wanted to kind of tell a story with it and have it
like in some type of order, likethe beginning, the middle and
the present. So you listen to the Joseph
story where I did and I saw how it played out.

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So I kind of put the songs in place as far as how the story
went to in relation to Turk. And that's how we came in with
the. Order now Diving in on the
actual songs here. Out of these 17, what is your
absolute favorite? Joseph, the self title track and

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the reason being mad from the beginning to the end.
It talks about my testimony, my wife testimony, my kids.
You know I'm saying and that's my world.
You feel me. So I gave my fans my world on
that song to be able to open up about our weaknesses and our

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strengths. You know how we went from
nothing to something. And you know how from me being
in prison, my wife being a breast cancer survivor, to being
13 years cancer free, my kids being 1 to 12 years old, You
know, it just was like things, the transition in our life and

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three verses, bro. And that's one of the heartfelt
songs on the album. And I think a lot of people when
they hear that song and they didn't seen all these things
take place. They didn't got to see me go to
prison. They saw the headlines or the
shootout with the police. They saw me during the time they
saw her holding me down, coming to visit me for eight years, 8

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months, 16 days, you know what I'm saying?
They saw, and they damn near grew up with my twins and watch
my twins grow up with them, you know what I'm saying?
They watched my wife have to go through chemo and radiation and
me being there the whole time. And they watch how people
betrayed us. They watch how, you know, we
kept our head up high, you know what I'm saying?

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And we could have crashed out, we could have got on the same
people energy, but we kept our integrity, our morals, our
principles, and we stayed God fearing and we overcame it
together. You know what I'm saying?
And that's why a lot of people respect us together as a couple
and got the utmost respect for my wife.

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And do you recall who produced this beat?
Young baller, young baller man. He's an artist producer out of I
think, Texas, and he produced inthe beginning, man, it was
nothing but young baller beats, you know?
But like I say, those people whotry to sabotage me erase my
whole studio session files. And I lost all those songs that

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I recorded. And I know something was about
Joseph Dan when the reason why they did it didn't make sense.
And I don't even want to talk about them, you know, But my,
my, my whole project, it was a devil's attack from the time
when I started working on it, bro, you know.

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And they did not want it to comeout from the time when it came
out, somebody did something to make the whole album come back
down. So now it ain't no Apple Music.
But we bout to re release it, you know, and we going to do it
quite as kept. So when we do it, a press
release going to go out. And the fans who didn't, the
fans who got subscriptions at Apple Music, they going to rush

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it and it's going to go #1 you know, and the, all of the charts
and all that, that they say thatyou got to have this big budget.
You have to have this Beyoncé $2,000,000 a song.
You got to have this for the song to do this.
Not today, not today. And I think a lot of people
going to learn that and they going to see that I'm opening up

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a new wave. And God is showing people just
trust him, you know what I'm saying?
Trust him and watch how he show out.
And care to share how many kids you have at this point?
I have three. I have a 25 year old son and 12
year old girl and boy twins. And all with Imani here.

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Nah, my oldest son is with my first baby mother out of New
Orleans and my girl and boy twins is with my wife.
Now, favorite or not, what's your most honest song on this
album? My most honest song have to be
you too. You too, man.

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I feel like that song right there, man, with everything
that's going on, you know, all of the songs are real, but that
song just from from every bar, it's something that went on in
my life and something that's still going on in my life and
it's something that going to continue to go on in everybody

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life every day. So it's one of those classic
songs, not verse that people will be able to relate to
forever. Bro, this song and never get
old. It's one of those you 2 *** you
2 you 2 damn you 2 you too hell Nah you too damn everybody

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hating I thought everybody was cool I thought so speak my mind
and the *** don't like it. 5 minutes later they doing shit
just like me I ain't had the money so this shit was funny.
Now I'm too termed *** on they ass and stunting kept me Louis V
shopping big cock copping brand new Hummer with you baby Mama
bopping house last slopping all white Gotti 6 bedroom no shoes

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on my carpet. Follow me now, *** cuz I'm a hot
boy. I know you thought it was over.
You mad? It's not boy Turn the original
you were deep car and you don't want to go to war to make me
deploy Yeah you too, *** You too.
You too damn. You too.
You too. Hell Nah.
You too. Damn.

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Everybody hating. I thought everybody was cool.
I thought so man. Listen, man, that song kind of
like it's I feel a spirit when I'm singing it.
And then the beat is so Baton Rouge in New Orleans, LA.
It's like, yeah, you bought thatold man in fresh sound, that NBA

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young boy, that New Orleans man.Listen, I bought it back and I
feel like I opened up the doors to that sound that we've been
longing for all over again. This Joseph album is crazy.
If y'all don't got it man stupid.
And I'm talking that shit and I'm backing it up.

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Believe that. And Speaking of that, Beat who
produced that as well? That was that was produced by
Adam on the track, you know whatI'm saying?
He producer with Norden Beat outhere in Atlanta.
You know what I'm talking about and it's crazy the beat sound
Louisiana, though, you know whatI'm saying?
It's like I know what you want. I know what I got to give you

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that motherfucker going dumb. That's also about to drop as a
single on all platforms, but it's on the album.
But it took off as a single likeeverybody all from around the
world making videos and they listening to it, they working
out to it, they driving their cars, you know what I'm saying?
They cutting grass. They one person was they they in

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the gym, they just doing all kind of stuff to the YouTube
because they can feel it. Bro.
Everybody got haters and and you, you don't know who they be.
But then when you find out you'dbe like, damn you 20 Hell no,
you 2, damn everybody hating youfeel me?
I thought everybody was cool andwe all be thinking that
everybody cool till you find outthat damn everybody over there

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hating on you and it fucks you up.
You know what I'm saying? It fucks you up bro.
And the only thing that can makeyou get through it is this
music. This music just get you through
it because you ain't the only one.
Now, I do want to ask you about two specific songs on this track
list. There's a song titled Still On

(01:11:08):
Fire. Exactly.
Is this a continuation of We on Fire?
Now still on fire basically is one of those ones too where I'm
talking because a lot of people were saying that you was the
last hot boy, you were the leasthot boy.
You know what I'm saying? And it pissing me off because
I'm knowing I'm a beast, you feel me?

(01:11:29):
I don't know where they get thatstigma from bro like I can't I
ain't so I had to let them know I'm still you feel me still on
fire. I ain't cool off yet if I ain't
a high board and what do you call that Tell them the truth
now I hate and I ain't never testified gave a statement a

(01:11:49):
lie. *** lie on me because they hate me.
I got receipts homie. I'm just paper chasing.
I made history Ain't no erasing mind you been to keep that
sucker shit away from me grinding on my my own Just
another day for me. Me and the main woman.
That's all I need pocket watching that *** try me.
You gon bleed. *** can't deny megot my own team.

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The only I got is opportunity. Still got love for my blocking
my community. *** still on fire ain't cool all yet.
If I ain't a hot boy, then what do you call that?
So I'm talking to them like I'm looking in this camera like,
yeah, I'm going to remind y'all now what you got to say?
Oh yeah, that boy ain't playing.It's just like, man, give me my

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respect, man, but in a humble way.
You know what I'm saying? In a humble way, you feel me?
Like because you're wrong. You believe in these lies.
Nah, Nah, Nah. Let me, let me remind you and
let me show you. Don't never, ever assume nothing
that you don't know. And I also want to ask you.

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About this by DT Spacely, My bad.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
And I also want to ask you aboutthis.
You have a song called Back Again.
Speaking of the maid woman, you've you've got other songs
with her as well. You have projects with her as
well. But how many songs do you have

(01:13:16):
together? Just you to unreleased.
Unreleased. We got probably about two
albums, you know, we got about two albums and you know, we
going to release them too, bro, because a lot of people always
ask me when you mind they going to drop, when you mind they
going to drop, you know, and a lot of people thinking I'd be
holding her back, but I'm her, I'm her biggest fan.

(01:13:37):
I promise you. I want her to drop, especially
with all these females doing their thing.
But my wife, she more of a wife,God fearing woman, a mother, you
know, maybe she want to do it when my kids get 21 or
something. I don't know, you feel me?
But I think her priorities is that first you know what I'm

(01:13:58):
saying? And with with rap bro, you know
she see what I go through with the rap, you know what I'm
saying? She support me, you know what
I'm saying? She my manager, you feel me?
So she know what come with it bro.
And I don't know if that's why you know, she probably man, I
don't have time for that shit. You know, we let me do what I'm
doing and help you get the money.
And you know what I'm saying? I do my other businesses stuff

(01:14:20):
that I don't have to be that way.
I could just get people, you know what I'm saying, to run the
properties for me. You feel me?
So like that's that's like she administrator in the background,
like, but she making everything happen like like I'm Ness the
face, she like slim and I'm baby.
You feel me? Like I said, put it like that.
Well, because she is here, I do want to ask her and picture the

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same question. You want to share a status
update on that? Yeah.
You know, music is my passion, but I also know that there's
different roles that you have toplay at different times.
And right now my role is not an artist.
My role is to be a manager, to make sure I push turn because he

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has the platform and he is the key to opening the door for me
to walk straight through. So I need to be his support
right now. I understand it.
Sometimes I don't think he understand it because he always
tell me you need to drop, you need to drop.
I feel I believe in divine timing for things, and I will
when I know the time is right. So just for the record, he is

(01:15:30):
not holding you back musically. Absolutely not.
He is down my throat about it. Man, man, you know that I can
sit back if she do her thing Yeah shit I've been trying to
psych her up so I don't have to do it.
Shit working me like a Hebrew down slave with.
Joseph doing as good as he's doing now.

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It's easier for me not to have to work so hard.
I can just come on the stage with you.
You know what I'm? Saying yeah.
And do want to ask you this, what's a studio session like
when you 2 are collaborating? Man, to be honest bro like we
like night and day you know whatI'm saying before we go in the
studio we've been ahead our raps.

(01:16:11):
You feel me like we both right she right I right, you know what
I'm saying? And once we go in now it just we
lay it down like we don't waste no time.
We don't have a bunch of people with us, bro, it'd just be us to
engineer our security. You know what I'm saying?
That's it like we don't need we don't have no vices, you know
what I'm saying? I'm do no drugs.

(01:16:32):
You know, our kids are being there some time with us, you
know, and that's it man. We create.
We probably every time we go on now we going to do at least
about 4-5 songs, you know what I'm saying?
And you know, we go home bro. And, you know, like, that's what
we do, man. Do you want to pitch in here and

(01:16:52):
Fact Check that? That's what we do, but we bum
head sometimes because he'll tryto say you.
Didn't say it like. This and I'm like, how you going
to tell me how to say it? You know, so we have those
little back and forth in the studio.
Because I I know, but but she write her own stuff.
Sometimes I just be telling her just say it like this.
You know what I'm saying. And no, nobody who rap and do

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they thing want to be tell me. Don't you can't tell me how to
say this, but sometimes it's good for people to tell you how
to say things. You know what I'm saying?
They can hear and see different stuff.
Now, there are 10 features on this body of work, as WellCare
to share. Who's your favorite?
I don't have any favorite feature on there, and if I did,
it'll be my wife, you know what I'm saying?

(01:17:34):
I'm grateful to have everybody that's on there.
Lil Wayne, Kodak, Cee Lo Green, Man, my wife, man, AA man,
Beasley Cole, you know what I'm saying?
The main character, you know, man, the list goes on, man.
Black and mild, you know what I'm saying?

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We got my daughter, Young Ralph,you feel me?
Everybody that's on that man, Everybody that I left out.
Bianca Spear, you know what I'm saying?
She's singing on that dirty world, you know?
Yeah man. Shout out to everybody.
Bro. If I left y'all out, y'all know,
you know? Hey, I'm sorry, but you know, I
appreciate everybody. No favourites.

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And when it comes to financiallyspeaking on this project,
especially the features, were they all organic features for
lack of a better phrase with this project like you described
with the Cee Lo or were any of these features paid features?
All of them were organic features.
You know, that, that the Wayne and Kodak Black feature, it came

(01:18:42):
a time when they was at odds with each other and Kodak
reached out to me. That's how me and him, you know,
got acquainted and I told him I had a record.
I believe he was in Jamaica at the time.
And he say send it to me. I sent it to him, man.
I got the record the next day out and this one it was I want

(01:19:05):
to see. They don't want to see you in
and they want to see you in up in a century, you know what I'm
saying? Like Kodak fresh out, hot, you
feel me? So when he did the record, I
ain't even think he was going todo it.
But man, homie, it was a real one, did it?
Knocked it out, boom, wheeze it,man.
I got Kodak on the record, man. Now first I had put the song out

(01:19:26):
with me and Kodak you know what I'm saying?
And bam I told Wayne man look man I got this record bro you
know man Bah Bah Bah send it. Wayne did it.
Bam I got that record back from Wayne while like Wayne hadn't
already did like 4 songs for me already you mad Jack, zip it.
We did the bottom like a hot boyand he put me on a no ceilings

(01:19:47):
thing so you know I'm almost Wayne but welcome out again.
But Wayne got on there, bro. And when he did that, I got him
like, man, this is history righthere to put Wayne and Kodak on a
record together. I was the first one to do that,
you know what I'm saying? So you know, I, I've been had
the record, you know what I'm saying?
And I see a lot of people. At first I was like, man, bro, I

(01:20:09):
can't put this record out. It's, it's old, you know what
I'm saying? But I feel like when people
haven't heard something, it's it's old to me.
It's people that didn't have records 15 years ago and they
didn't went platinum, you know what I'm saying?
It's different days and times ofhow music is, you know what I'm
saying? Consume now.
So I went on and you know, did my thing with it bro.

(01:20:30):
And the fans love it bro, you feel me?
But man, shout out to Weezy. Shout out to Kodak man for
blessing me with that record. Now, zooming out, where do you
stand on that debate, paid features versus organic
features? Because there's people on both
sides here. There's some artists that say,
and they publicly say this, I'llnever pay for a feature.

(01:20:52):
And then they're, you know, so on and so forth.
Where do you stand on that debate zooming out?
It all depends on like how you reach out, you know, if, if it's
a major artist man, and this major artist, you don't know
them, you know, you don't have no type of relationship with

(01:21:13):
them. You shouldn't expect them to do
no free feature for you just because you asked them.
You know, because I didn't have people that reached out to me.
They may be hot, but I don't even know who that is.
You know what I'm saying and I didn't had arguments with my
little brother-in-law, because when I tell him who the people
be, he know him. Man.

(01:21:33):
You should have did that man, But I be feeling like it's
disrespectful for when a person coming here and be like, man,
you know, man, do this. And then when I be like, what's
your budget? You feel me?
They get mad as if, you know, I supposed to do it because I know
him. So I I I could empathize and
feel like you know what I'm saying?
If a person is somebody and you reach out to them, bro, you

(01:21:55):
should pay them if that's what they want.
You know, you shouldn't, you shouldn't feel like because you
got motion, you know what I'm saying?
You can get the record for free from anybody because man, some
people ain't going for that, bro.
But if you have a relationship with somebody, I feel like, you
know, it should be organic. But even in that situation, if a
person say, Nah, man, you know, I, I can't do it.

(01:22:18):
You never know why they telling you they might be in a financial
bind, you know what I'm saying? I think if you get it, be
grateful for it because everybody not doing it, you know
what I'm saying? So that could go any way bro.
Like I see it. I'm just open minded and I
understand all sides of it. Were you one of those artists
even Once Upon a time? That was like, I'm never paying

(01:22:39):
for a feature if it ain't organic.
I never say I'm never paying fora feature, but I don't expect
people to do stuff for me for free.
So you know what I'm saying whenthey when they do it, I'm happy.
That's why I say even with Lil Wayne and Code, I asked now
because the closed mouth don't get fed.
But I'm not going to get mad if they like man, I ain't doing

(01:23:00):
that, you know, and feel like man, you got a man, you know, I
didn't ask plenty of people to do features on this album and,
and you know what I'm saying, they ain't do it.
I can't be mad they ain't do it,but they probably wish they did
it now. Was there a thought on having no
features for this project? Not feature that I wish I could

(01:23:22):
have gotten that I didn't want all the hot boys on Still on
Fire. And the reason why I wanted
that, not because the song wasn't hot by itself.
The fans were requesting since they had to seen us on tour.
Man, you need to put the hot boys on this and do the remix da
da, da, da da. So that's the only feature that

(01:23:45):
I wish I would have got. You know what I'm saying?
I think that should have been going crazy, crazy right now,
but you know what I'm saying? I guess it wasn't in God's plan
for that to happen. Joseph doing what he doing, you
know what I'm saying? Without that feature, you feel
me? And imagine, based on your
previous description here, closed mouths don't get fed,

(01:24:06):
assuming that you did try to make that happen.
Yeah, my mouth, well, my mouth was loud with that one, you feel
me? But like I say, I don't know,
for whatever reason. And it's cool, you know what I'm
saying? I ain't doing no tripping, man.
Like I sent that record to him and I asked and I swallow my
pride and you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you know, and, and I did amillion views on that by myself.

(01:24:30):
I, I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
It didn't happen and it's cool, but look at Joseph now.
So I, I probably was wrong thinking that if I do this, this
going to make my album do what it's doing right now.
But it didn't. It's doing what it's doing
without them being on it, you know what I'm saying?
And I held my own. Two more questions here about

(01:24:53):
this album and then we'll be done with this segment.
What have you learned about yourself through the creation
and release of this album? I learned that if you put your
all into something, man, and youbelieve without a shadow or
doubt, and you just go with whatyou know, man, it ain't no

(01:25:14):
limit, you know what I'm saying?It ain't no limit, bro.
And you know, I accomplished something in a couple of days
that that that people dream of. It's a bunch of people saying,
man, this is it. I didn't expect this of you.

(01:25:35):
It's but it's just show me that so many people were misled and
misinformed, bro. So if I wouldn't be talking and
saying anything, it'll be a bunch of misinformed people out
there. You have to get out there and
inform the people because if they got a perception of you,
sometimes people don't even tellyou.

(01:25:56):
They just walk around and and just you'll feel the energy and
be like, damn, why everybody acting like this?
But I had discernment to see what a threat and the problem
was coming from and I fixed it, bro, you know what I'm saying?
And now it ain't no looking back, Joseph.

(01:26:16):
And last question, can you give the audience 5 reasons to listen
to this album? Because it's one of the best
solo projects that's out right now.
The best solo project out right now.
That's fine. Yeah, that's fine man.

(01:26:47):
Yes indeed. Joseph out right now man.
Go get that if y'all don't got that.
You heard me. Follow me on my Instagram,
original hot boy turn click thatlink in my bio.
You know what I'm saying? And just know man, it is what it
is. You feel me?

(01:27:31):
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