September 23, 2025 • 33 mins
Dallas, TX born/raised recording artist, Montana 700, sits down with DJ Smallz for over 33 minutes, opening up about his past amongst a variety of topics. This interview was filmed on 8/21/25.
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Now, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
She's like putting icing on the cake.
You can eat no dry cake. And when it comes to your own ad
libs, do you have a strategy at all when you implement them in
your music? Like is there a rhyme or reason
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why you put certain ad libs on certain things?
Or is there a policy for you on how you do your ad libs?
I'll just go for how I'm feeling, what I'm doing, OK?
And be that as it may, with thatdescription there, do you have a
signature ad Lib by any chance? A main ad Lib you're known for
at this point. I don't know.
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I couldn't tell. You had to tell me.
Abused. I'm from a fan perspective.
Just curious there. All right, well, now let's break
down the album here and get intosome real detail about that.
All right. Ready.
Yeah. Now, can you explain to the
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audience everything they need toknow about the greatest of all
traps? If you don't understand what I
mean by the greatest of all traps, like I wanted the best to
do this shit. I made it through everything and
all my partners. I'm the one that made it and I'm
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my friend that are in jail. I ain't never 25.
I'm the one that got to say that.
I'm a superstar. My family, I'm the one to change
my Mama life, my sister and brother's life, my partner's
life. It's a different life.
I made it out the streets so I feel like I'm a goat.
Now, before we dive any deeper when it comes to this body of
work, do you consider this an album or a mixtape?
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It's a mixtape, yeah. I ain't never dropped my first
album yet. Now, for those in the audience,
is there a difference between those two phrases, album versus
mixtape? I mean, they both abide at work.
So I wouldn't really say it's a.It's a big difference, but it's
technically, yeah. Now for this project, was there
a thought on making it shorter? Perhaps like an EP.
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Now, I was going to do like 14 songs, but then I ended up doing
16 and I ain't going to do no EPyet.
OK. Just curious there.
Now, we've already described, you know, the synopsis of this
project, but just for a little bit more insight when it comes
to that title, was this a title that you came up with yourself
or someone coined for you? No, my manager came up with it.
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Yeah, my partner came up with it.
And when he came up with this, was this something that was
thought of and brought together before you even started record
creating and recording the music?
Was this maybe while you were creating a recording or was this
after you collect this this music?
This title was already done. We were really putting on the
track list together and I already had a name for it and we
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changed the name like really like a week before the tape,
like 2 weeks probably right before I dropped the checklist.
Do you want to share that previous name at all?
No 'cause I still might use it. OK, got it.
Yeah, I might use it for my album.
And Speaking of titles here, when it comes to your previous
bodies of work, not just this mix tape here, has there been
any thought on maybe continuing on and create making those into
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any sort of series at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess for like Volume 1, yes, Part 2, yes, me and my partner
got a tape together there and I doubt we got 742, so we might do
742. Part 2.
OK, on the lookout. Got it.
Yeah. Now, as far as the artwork on
this project, can you explain the meaning behind it, if at
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all? You see like the greatest art
trash. You see how I'm like, you know,
back with a Rolls Royer like 300,000 in the hood.
I'm a jewelry on, popping bottles, smoking cube cigars
like someone go do like a Bosnian and behind the clothes
track because I made it. And when it comes to this cover
art here, it's grayed out. It's like a black and white
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cover, which is similar to another body of work you did
called 700 Reasons. Now, was there any?
Was there any rhyme or reason? Both of these are grayed out or
black and white. It just be my vibe.
I'll be on like a blackout talk time.
That's why I'm being a damn my favorite color.
I'm a black a lot. So these two projects are not
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tied together. It's not like a continuation of
one versus the. Other not any.
Continuation And do you think you might be doing that same
black and white Gray feel for future projects of yours?
I don't know, depends on how I feel.
I might, yeah. Got it.
And when it comes to this artwork here, was this something
that you came up with or a graphic designer perhaps?
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Yeah. No, I came up with that, yeah.
And also when it comes to the release date of this project.
OK, we were, we were with the bottle at the window, right?
Yes. OK, yeah, me and my aunt.
I can't remember that. Brooke.
Yeah. Now when it comes to this
release date here I saw that it was released on August 1st on
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the DSP Spotify but on title it says July 31st.
What was the official release date for this project?
What's the shit? Oh, you know, you know, it'd be
dropping at like midnight, 11 AM.
So yeah, it was August. It was on August 1st.
OK. Was there any significance
behind that release date choice for you?
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Significant behind. It was just time to drop.
OK. And when it comes to this body
of work, I know you've done other interviews, other media
and things of that nature, but are there any unknown facts or
stories in regards to this mix tape that's never been publicly
mentioned before yet? But the guy wants to say Beat
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ain't been publicly mentioned, but I made a lot of these songs
on the road, in the car. Yeah.
So you don't know. A lot of people say you need
these certain type of studios that you got to do business in
and make good records. I made these songs in the car,
man. Can you describe that setup?
It just pulled me up. Now look, it's like I'm in a
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car. I just got the mic.
My man's got his laptop. We driving.
I'm just chilling, smoking, doing my thing, playing beats
and I'll just get in my mouth. And is it a particular car?
I'm a blank truce. OK, Yeah.
That you did this and just curious, didn't know if you had
a favorite car maybe that you did this sort of thing in and
then what else? Anything else in regards to
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creating, recording, or releasing this project no one
publicly knows about yet? You haven't mentioned it in any
other interviews in regards to this mixtape.
Oh. I couldn't just say anything.
OK. And I got to ask you this
question now because it's 2025. Was there any AI technology used
in the creation of this project?Well, how would we do for some
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AI though? Well, some people are doing some
things vocally, some are using like mixing and mastering tools,
AI versions of that and maybe even the graphic design, the
artwork, there may be some AI usage involved with.
That yeah, no, we didn't do no AI.
Everything done by humans. Real life, in real time.
Now, as far as the length of this body of work, you
mentioned, it was 16 songs. You were thinking about 14, or
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you had fourteen in mind no matter what.
But why 16 at the end of the dayhere?
Because I really was going to hold back some songs for the
album, but I'm like, Nah, I'm going to drop them.
Just give me everything I got right now, but not the other
thing I got. But I'm going to give them these
two two because I fucked with them.
And how many tracks did you end up having to choose from before
you got to the 16? 56 songs that I chose from.
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And what was that process like? Just the narrowing down process
for you. It wasn't really that hard.
Well, it was it was, but some ofthe songs I just kept back and I
it was on a different vibe. So I ain't want to drop them
right now. But did it take you like a day,
a couple days, a week? Maybe it took a few, a few
months. Why did I say a month to come?
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I had to get out of songs together to that I like, 'cause
it was really like 300 songs, but I had to narrow down on
which ones that I wanted to see if I wanted to put on the tape.
Then I had the narrow down of which one's going to go on the
tape. Yeah.
And then what about this track list order?
Who puts that together? I did the track list.
And what was the process behind that for you?
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Just the track list itself, yeah.
I was just in the studio. That's when I played all the
songs. I just played all the songs and
put them in order on which way. I thought that I'd make the fans
stay in tune with it. And for you, was there a
strategy with the track list order?
So for example, there are some artists they have like a roller
coaster feel for their project. It's one song up, another song
down, one song up, another song down.
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For others it might be a storyline.
So it actually weaves throughoutat a story from beginning of the
project to the end of the project.
And then others it might be a a a slow roll and a slow exit
between different vibes. So maybe 2-3 songs have the same
feel and then 2-3 song kind of eases their way in and out of
the track was How would you? Describe this A-23 song and two
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songs like this and two, three, most songs like that.
Then end it off on a different note.
And was this the first time you ever done a track list order
like that? No.
OK. Yeah, I like the key to where
you can keep the same feeling towhere you don't want to turn
this off. Now, out of these 16 songs here,
what is your absolute favorite? I don't got no favorite.
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It's like if you ask a Mama what's her favorite kid.
If she got a favorite, somethingwrong with her.
Now, favorite or not, Yeah. What's your most honest song on
this project? You ever talked a lot?
I don't rap and fabricate every song that I ever made since a
little boy. I can tell you every boy,
everything that I'm talking about.
Each boy, each word. And why keep it so real for you?
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I mean, I ain't I ain't getting it to lie.
I really I like I got this shit to to change the narrative.
Like I want to tell the lie. I wouldn't even do it and.
What about this then? Since all these songs are honest
as you just described, what do you think is the real estate
song to you then? You just asked me the same
question to it. Got it.
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Didn't know if that would changethe trajectory here, but OK.
And what about this? OK, on this body of work there
are 4 features. Do you have a favorite feature
of the four? Now because I don't got no
favorite song. Didn't know if that applied to
the features here, but I do wantto hone in on 2 songs here.
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There is a feature with Wife andLucci called Loyalty is Real and
how soon did you get that that feature there after his release.
It wasn't really long at all, probably about to be home in
like a month. Probably not even.
I don't even remember how long it was.
I know he had hit us when we wasin Atlanta.
We just pulled up on that. One of the most genuine *** I
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don't fuck with in this rap gamesince I didn't start it.
I like make a *** want to push back from even me *** but I
don't show love since the day I met him.
I called me 3 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning and going to
pick up the phone every time. Now, did you have a relationship
with him prior to his? Incarceration.
Yeah, I I listened to his music like we grew up on his music,
but I never met him. So it's like when he came home
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from the Reach out, like, yeah, they showed me a lot of love.
Now was this recorded with you 2together in the same studio?
Yeah, we was in the studio. What was that session like?
I really made two. I made white ones that night
too. It's on the tape.
Yes, I would lie that night. And what was he like in the
studio? YFN Lucci there.
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Go to the next question, OK? I mean, it felt like the same
question in my own way. No problem, no problem.
And then what about Boosie Flow?OK, there's a video with you and
him together, music video. But when you were creating this
song, at what point does he findout this is titled Boosie Flow?
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I don't think I even I ain't think I never even told him to
the Kyle boots flow. It's a part I when I dropped it.
He ain't even heard the song till I pull up on him.
God damn. And then what was his reaction
when he finally. Heard that why I recorded it.
You see, I get a video. That's the that's his real
reaction. When we was doing the video, it
was the first time I heard it right then.
I ain't letting her until we played right then.
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So everything is live there, nothing reenacted.
Yeah, No. Got it.
All right, well, wrapping thingsup here just in regards to this
project, what have you learned about yourself through the
creation and release of this mixtape, if anything?
I don't think nobody can outworkme, but I've been through that.
I ain't taking no days. I have no sleep.
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I'm going to get it done. You want to do something, put
your best foot, put your best foot forward and keep going.
And last question here, in regards to this body of work,
can you give the audience 5 reasons to listen to this
mixtape? Fire reason.
Yes. Hustle, stay down, motivation,
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Lords, unity, respect, power. I can keep going.
And are there any plans here fora deluxe by any chance?
I don't really like deluxe. I did, I did one with my past
project but I don't think I'll do another deluxe.
And why not for you? What's the reasoning there?
Because if we're going to do it,look, we're going to ask some
more, something like we're goingto go back to the singles, yeah.
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And just for those in the audience that might have missed
that previous deluxe you did care to share the title to that
just for reference you? Call the one deluxe.
Yeah, that was like, see, I dropped the EP so that's how I
end up dropping the deluxe to itbecause it really only like Sam
a song I did. It looks like 1214, so I think.
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For those in the audience getting to know you here for the
very first time, care to share where you were born?
I'm in Dallas, TX. And care to share where you were
raised as well? I'm from Dallas, TX, to be
exact, New Dallas. I represent the whole state,
yeah. And does it get any more
specific than that when it comesto Oak Cliff?
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And then what? And then what?
Like sometimes people will say blocks and names and something
even more. Specific I don't want to talk
about no blocks. I really was in New Delhis man.
I mean it was in a movement, Unity, power, respect.
Y'all *** getting money in motion?
It did. And Speaking of that phrase, New
Dallas there, were you the inventor of that phrase?
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Nah, my brother came up with a dough.
Yeah but me and bro like the forefront of pushing it.
And there are others too that hashtag this and. 1015 it's a
lot. It's a lot of I really it's,
it's a lot of there's like there's partners, there's like
generally with each other, but it's a big movement.
Now can anyone just hashtag this?
Can anyone just say new Dallas or is it?
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Like the movement and you support what we got going on
that what I'm saying. But as far as just our partners,
like you'll see who's with us. Got it.
Yeah. Now when it comes to Dallas, for
those that have heard of the city but haven't had a chance to
visit yet, can you give the audience 5 tips?
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First time visiting Dallas, Is there anything you want to let
them in on? Be safe, move smart you fire
tips, move smart being your P&Q.Have fun, make memories, and
enjoy life. Very simple there.
Very simple and straight to the point.
All right. Perfect.
And I actually wanted to ask youabout New Dallas, and you
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answered it without me even asking you.
But that's what I was setting upthere for.
But it's OK What about this? Now, Who or what motivates you
at this point? Yeah.
Everybody. My whole team, my pilot, my mom,
my family, my friends, everything.
My motivator, everything. The grind, the hustle.
It's just me. Now, circumstances could be
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different for everyone, but there may be someone in the
audience who needs some motivational words or
encouragement themselves right now.
Can you give them any? Look, they probably heard me say
this in every interview. Stay down.
Whatever you want to do is goingto make sense.
No matter what somebody told youhow long it's going to take.
It might not seem like it's making sense right now.
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Stay down. We don't even make sense.
Just crying hard work every day.I'm so up, up and I still ain't
stopped working, I swear to God.So a lot of people ain't working
me. If you look at this interview,
you were working me before. Like when I get in our work
mode, I turn it to a different person because like I'm trying
to get it done. And if you ain't on the same
time with me, you're not understanding.
So we might bump heads, so we might not need to work together
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because you, you're not working as hard as me.
How am I working harder than you?
And I'm like, I'm good. I can go to sleep right now.
I'm not tripping on those bills.You calling me, telling me you
need the money, it ain't making sense.
You ain't trying to get the money.
So stay down, man. Whatever you want to do, stay
down with it is going to make sense.
You got to work hard, though. I didn't say it was going to be
easy. I just said stay down with it.
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Now I want to hone in on something you said previous and
when we were talking about your new mix tape here, the greatest
of all traps you mentioned in the cover art, you were sporting
$300,000 it just in jewelry alone.
No, that was on the cash side too.
Oh, that was on the cash side too.
Yeah, that was on. OK.
Excuse me, but you are sporting some pieces of jewelry during
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this interview and wanted to seeif you can break these items
down for the audience. Some people see these watches
and these bracelets. I got like 300 I'm in right now.
It is. 300 right here, yeah. So tell them to buy it however
they wanted to buy. I got like 300 on me right now
and I'm light as hell. Now, can you share any more
details about this set you're currently wearing?
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20 pointers in the face emerge like they're on ground.
Cuban with the piece 20 pointersin I ain't got the hood ring on
emerge in his joint. Petty rose gold, you know?
But I'm still like today. Earrings on too.
Yeah, I forgot about this is a flower shit, Yeah.
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Now, when it comes to these items of jewelry, care to share
the Jewelers behind any of thesepieces?
I got this from King Johnny Houston.
Yeah, King Johnny really did this whole little setup King
Johnny did. I got this from Iceman and
Dennis. Now for you, why use different
Jewelers? There are some that might stick
to 1. Yeah, 'cause it's right.
I I really feel like different Jewelers better for different
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things. Like King Jenny might be the
best for grills to me, certain Jewelers like, but when it kind
of watches, I like to go Ice Champ or really Benny.
I just got to watch from Benny. I just got to watch from one of
my little partners in Houston, too, yeah.
Now, do any of the Jewelers you deal with ever feel some type of
way that you do use other Jewelers and things of that?
Nature, it'll be crazy. It's like all you don't want
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everybody to get the money. It's enough for everybody.
So if you make you mad that I'm spending my money with somebody
else and I'm still coming to spend my money with you, then I
don't even need to be spending my money with you.
Now, of all the items you have during this set, one thing you
don't have is teeth. No grill on your teeth.
What is your opinion on grills, whether it's perm or pull out?
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Obviously you have veneers. Yeah.
I wouldn't wear no grill. I don't want one.
I don't know why. I just.
I never felt like I wanted a grill.
Yeah. Just curious there if.
I was to do something with my teeth, I redo them how to put a
stone in one of them or something.
But I wouldn't do no grill. Got it.
And you've always felt like thatjust never was.
Yeah, I had the teeth when I waslike 21.
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Got it. And care to share who did the
veneers by the way? Dusty, I got like a fist of
female Dennis in Dallas. And OK, winding down the, excuse
me, some of the questions here on jewelry.
There are a few debates when it comes to jewelry.
I want to get your perspective on.
Let's start with watches here. There are some that debate, OK,
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bust down versus plain jet, custom versus factory.
Obviously you have bust down during this interview.
What's your opinion on that thatdebate there?
Shit I got both. I'm always ready about it.
I just bought 2 bus down in in the last 12 days.
It's a anniversary rose gold, olive green face.
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I mean, personally, this like this is a fun watch.
This something you wear when youwant to just chill and relax and
beat box stuff. This something you put in the
closet and collect for this. Like I can wear this every day.
I wouldn't wear this every day. So if for an investment, I'm
going to buy this. I want to just flash.
I'm going to buy this. Yeah.
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And also when it comes to a jewelry, there's also another
debate here now with $300,000 that sounds like you spent.
Oh. Well, I'm like like 350.
I forgot. I forgot I had this on.
Yeah, 350. I was a little light.
Now when it comes to spending 350, this sounds.
Like really like hold on 375. I got my other joint in here.
There's 20 pointers in there, but I I fucked it up, you know,
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having some business it keep going.
I'm still light though. Now, OK, 375 here, The money you
spent sounds like natural diamonds, natural stones.
There is another debate, however, when it comes to
jewelry and lab diamonds. Lab stones.
What's your opinion on that? Can't do it.
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It's like me lying to you when I'm lying for my name.
I'm not even buy it. You're going to go more than I
lab stone my estate auntie goingto buy the real thing.
But it's like a dealer tried to tell me like last week, I
shouldn't buy no pointer earrings.
I should go to help. I'm like, they don't even make
no sense. They don't make sense.
But this diamond game is scary. He showed me a loud diamond,
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showed me a real diamond. You want you can't tell the
difference. A lot of these rappers are lying
to y'all, man. They weren't these fake
diamonds. Y'all thinking they're real.
You got to get them tested. Everything I spent is natural
stones. And what about this when it
comes to this amount of money you spent, right?
And you could say 375, however way you want to divide it, so on
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and so forth. That's how you described it.
But let's just say what's on your neck is the price of a
piece of real estate or a luxuryvehicle.
What's on your wrist, another plot of land and on your other
wrist, another plot. Do you look at your jewelry in
those types of terms? Like I have a car around my
neck. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I got yeah, and you got a call, but it's like you got to have
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the money to be able to do this.You don't spend it all.
Don't spend it all on Drew. I got real estate too.
I just invested like $1,000,000 in the house and we're going to
do another million and refurbishing rehab, set it for
like 3.3 million. So we're like in 1.3 million
profit. So it's a difficult, this is
fun. It's what you do with the
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extras. And Speaking of 375, just in
jewelry right here. You see what the minions came in
there though. Real estate, the business handle
the business first. This is just the issue.
This is fun. What you in front of that
though? No, I was going to ask you this.
OK. Obviously, you're not wearing
the plain Jane Rolly on camera and the Ring on camera.
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So let's just say 300 on you, just on your body right now.
Yeah, Yeah. For someone in the audience that
has no jewelry, yeah. What does that feel like knowing
that you have $300,000 on your body at one time?
I. Feel great, but it's like you
can't, you can't, you can't cherish the jury because if you
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lose it, then how you going to feel?
I don't wake up and still feel the same.
When I walked in this interview,when you just walked and met me
at this door, you didn't see none of the jury.
Wow, because I'm playing it back.
I'm chilling, got my hood on when I walk out and I'm from the
took this back in and chill. I'm still feel the same.
But to be able to purchase something like this and coming
from where I come from, I feel great.
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You look at my wrist. I come from nothing.
I come from robbing me in aggravated cases like I come
from risking my life and trap I was everyday.
I'm sitting here chilling and I ain't even got it all along.
Feel great. I'll tell you stay there.
Anything you want to do is goingto make sense.
It's going to pay out. Now I've got one more topic for
you in regards to this jewelry here.
Yeah, you have double M on this chain is.
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Pendant here, the biggest. What is the meaning behind that?
There are people that see you post that all the time.
They see the logo in your music videos.
Constant posting of the double MCan you explain?
It's the biggest my brother. I did this for me and brother.
My brother Lamarck passed when Iwas 17/20/17 and we really made
me want to take our revenue. You said you just said double M,
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so that mean a lot to me. I mean, I'm in Atlanta right now
with DJ smiles. He he talking about my brother
ain't gone. He's been gone there 10 years.
But I'm putting on about their business.
Now when it comes to double M, you use the phrase brother.
Are you talking figuratively here or biologically?
No, it's my, it's my blood. But it ain't my blood.
But it's my mother, Brother. It might well be brother.
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Yeah. Now for those in the audience
that want a little bit more context, they they constantly
see you saying his name. And yeah, I met bro in
kindergarten. I I'm probably the same.
First time. First time.
Now was it kindergarten? What?
What's the 1st grade did you go to?
You're probably kindergarten, preschool.
They've been my best friend my whole life.
We never had we we we taught each other how to fight for busy
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each other. Caught our first case together,
weigh each other clothes dry outand then shoes.
And this is my best friend. Did everything with this man.
It's a big difference. I ain't talking about no ***
that's playing like I told somebody like we the same thing.
How close to this man did my real brothers It's it's a
different. That's why I called him my
brother like my Mama know this, though, This ain't nothing I'm
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playing about his Mama know this.
Our whole families know how close we would the world know if
you grew up with us. You want to see this man without
seeing me? Now again, for those that have
heard his name and you sang his name and music and the logo and
everything but didn't have a chance to to meet him like you
did, didn't have a bond with himlike you did.
You've already shared some insight into this answer, but
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just want to ask in case you want to add on to what you've
said and if not, we'll move forward.
But what was he really like? You see how these diamonds
you're shining? I hear.
Walk in. Just light the room up.
I swear, you just light the roomup.
Flashy. Funny.
I'm telling you, he just like the room.
I can't even explain. They're my man's.
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Now did he do music at all? No, he didn't want me to rap.
I won't say that's why I pushed anyone.
We didn't rap. All the other problems rapping
party too. We catch the case.
We didn't rap. I I started rapping like a week
before a bro died. He the only person knew I could
rap. I made a little freestyle,
called him on the phone. We on the phone for about an
hour talking about the business.They don't write down bro, what
if I start rapping? Hey now you don't want to rap
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and I want to do no rapping. That's goofy bro.
Look at that. It's goofy.
We weren't going to rap. I made the song.
You're like, Nah, I ain't going to lie to do sound good.
Then bro passed away like a weeklater.
That's why I kept rapping. Now, hypothetically speaking
here, what do you think he wouldthink of the way your life and
career into music, which was something he said was goofy in
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the very beginning, but kind of.Turned a different bowling I'm
telling you like this is my bestfriend so whatever I'm winning
with it. That's why when I made the song
and it sounded good, he's like Nah, bitch, it might yeah, you
might have tried make something else.
Like I would have been right here with the same thing.
You had a big ass chain on like whatever he want fast quote
whatever bitch he wanted like that my man's.
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Now you mentioned this all took place a week before he passed,
Was that the last time you 2 communicated?
Was that hour of conversation. I talked to brother the day he
passed away. Yeah, he just texted me say his
phone broke or something. He was going to hit me.
He damned me. I'll show you the day I got the
damn on Instagram. He damned me like I would say 30
minutes before he passed away. Hey, I'm from the college and he
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saw my partner called me and saymy man's just passed.
I'm thinking he's saying bro with the Jack.
I just caught a case. Caught a case April 5th.
April 5th I catch another aggravated robbery in Dallas.
I go back to Houston, my man's passed.
April 26th I start rapping. Probably April I wouldn't when I
went to jail April 5th I wasn't rapping.
I ain't make a song. By the time April 26th I had
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just started rapping. Bro passed away.
It's the same month I just caught another case.
We just came home from juvenile.I ain't even been home, not even
a year. With all that was going on and
the loss of your best friend, how did you handle that at the
time? How did you cope?
With it made me I had to constantly agree with it every
day. Bro it hit hard.
You think I want to be able to wear all this shit in my man's
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in here. They don't want to go on these
stage and go state to state do all this shit and bro can't see
none of them. Shit hit different.
Now to switch things up a littlebit here, Yeah.
Do you have a favorite memory ofhim you'd like to share with
the? Audience, I wouldn't say a fail.
Every one of them I cherish every day we had together.
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It was so short to me. It was so short to me because
life still going. So now I really see.
And we ain't thinking. We ain't thinking.
My *** going to die. That's the last person we got
was going to die. Look boy, man, come on, y'all
crazy man. We bowed too hard.
We did. We did everything together.
But that's OK. It's been like everything meant
to happen for a reason. And winding down the questions
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about him, What's the best advice you receive from him or
most important thing you learn being around him?
Loyalty, who's the definition oflawyer?
Whatever I had bro here we don'twent on players and robbed
people and I didn't kept all themoney just because we were going
through it. The situation like that was my
brother for real like that was my real brother.
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I know play until my alley. Little *** be slamming a man's
ass, stealing from him, going ona bag though, going on a book
bags and shit, trying to steal ashoe.
All this little hoe shit you ***be doing going to your partner's
spot when he gone and stealing his weed breaking in like y'all
know what's going on. It wasn't none of that man.
It's a different type of little who grew up on a different type
of club. And ultimately here, yeah.
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What do you think his passing taught you?
What did you learn from that? Taught me everything I told you.
Made me. It built me as a man.
It built me as a man. You did say that it.
Changed my life like why my partner died on plays.
I'm I was a robber bro. Like I ain't going to lie to
you. I have fire eradicated at 1514.
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It's what I can't I don't live so many different stages in
life. I went from Robin *** so we went
to trapping Horde and I'm a rap star.
Like I don't live phases in life.
Now I'm trying to go real estateand like this shit.
I got a real story, man. I ain't I ain't posted.
I'm not just here for nothing. I'm not just one of the rappers.
I just realign everything. I'm telling you, I've been
seeing and she's as a kid. Now ask you a variety of
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questions here about Double M Isthere anything else you want to
mention about him? And the biggest I did it for
Bro. It wouldn't be no me without
Bro. And I do want to ask you
something additional here. You mentioned this is something
you you still grieve to this dayabout.
But I do want to ask you this, mentally speaking, has this been
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something you ever sought? Any professional help perhaps?
No. Why not?
What's your opinion on that? Usually I keep going.
I don't really really trust people to be sitting there
talking about tell y'all about how I feel.
Just curious there on what your outlook was on that there?
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I'm not against it though. If you feel like you grieve and
you feel like you need professional help, seek what's
best for you. But I just haven't did nothing
like that. Do you call them fans,
followers, supporters, Maybe even have a name for this group
of people that are really into you?
Fans, supporters, follows, you can be out whatever you want to
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be preferred as as long as you're with the movement.
I'm with you, I'm with you. I love who everybody, everybody
who support me. I appreciate y'all.
I support you the same way. Now ask you a variety of
questions here in regards to a variety of topics, but is there
anything you weren't asked they really want to know while you're
here? I don't know.
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Just stay tuned. You'll see.
I can't tell you what's going onthere.
Never let you live here. Know what you're right here
doing? And what about in the in regards
to this interview here, this conversation, this discussion,
is there anything you want to add to what you've said?
Is there anything you want to subtract, perhaps from what
you've said? Yeah, you think you should want
That was the same question twice.
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You just can't. You think he just tried to twist
it around. That was the same question to
give you twice, and that's the same answer.
OK, Yeah. And any last words here before
you leave? I appreciate you for fucking
with me, Jane, like I fuck with the world.
You didn't letting the world seeanother side of my story.
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I'd like to go to the.
Now, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
She's like putting icing on the cake.
You can eat no dry cake. And when it comes to your own ad
libs, do you have a strategy at all when you implement them in
your music? Like is there a rhyme or reason
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why you put certain ad libs on certain things?
Or is there a policy for you on how you do your ad libs?
I'll just go for how I'm feeling, what I'm doing, OK?
And be that as it may, with thatdescription there, do you have a
signature ad Lib by any chance? A main ad Lib you're known for
at this point. I don't know.
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I couldn't tell. You had to tell me.
Abused. I'm from a fan perspective.
Just curious there. All right, well, now let's break
down the album here and get intosome real detail about that.
All right. Ready.
Yeah. Now, can you explain to the
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audience everything they need toknow about the greatest of all
traps? If you don't understand what I
mean by the greatest of all traps, like I wanted the best to
do this shit. I made it through everything and
all my partners. I'm the one that made it and I'm
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my friend that are in jail. I ain't never 25.
I'm the one that got to say that.
I'm a superstar. My family, I'm the one to change
my Mama life, my sister and brother's life, my partner's
life. It's a different life.
I made it out the streets so I feel like I'm a goat.
Now, before we dive any deeper when it comes to this body of
work, do you consider this an album or a mixtape?
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It's a mixtape, yeah. I ain't never dropped my first
album yet. Now, for those in the audience,
is there a difference between those two phrases, album versus
mixtape? I mean, they both abide at work.
So I wouldn't really say it's a.It's a big difference, but it's
technically, yeah. Now for this project, was there
a thought on making it shorter? Perhaps like an EP.
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Now, I was going to do like 14 songs, but then I ended up doing
16 and I ain't going to do no EPyet.
OK. Just curious there.
Now, we've already described, you know, the synopsis of this
project, but just for a little bit more insight when it comes
to that title, was this a title that you came up with yourself
or someone coined for you? No, my manager came up with it.
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Yeah, my partner came up with it.
And when he came up with this, was this something that was
thought of and brought together before you even started record
creating and recording the music?
Was this maybe while you were creating a recording or was this
after you collect this this music?
This title was already done. We were really putting on the
track list together and I already had a name for it and we
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changed the name like really like a week before the tape,
like 2 weeks probably right before I dropped the checklist.
Do you want to share that previous name at all?
No 'cause I still might use it. OK, got it.
Yeah, I might use it for my album.
And Speaking of titles here, when it comes to your previous
bodies of work, not just this mix tape here, has there been
any thought on maybe continuing on and create making those into
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any sort of series at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess for like Volume 1, yes, Part 2, yes, me and my partner
got a tape together there and I doubt we got 742, so we might do
742. Part 2.
OK, on the lookout. Got it.
Yeah. Now, as far as the artwork on
this project, can you explain the meaning behind it, if at
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all? You see like the greatest art
trash. You see how I'm like, you know,
back with a Rolls Royer like 300,000 in the hood.
I'm a jewelry on, popping bottles, smoking cube cigars
like someone go do like a Bosnian and behind the clothes
track because I made it. And when it comes to this cover
art here, it's grayed out. It's like a black and white
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cover, which is similar to another body of work you did
called 700 Reasons. Now, was there any?
Was there any rhyme or reason? Both of these are grayed out or
black and white. It just be my vibe.
I'll be on like a blackout talk time.
That's why I'm being a damn my favorite color.
I'm a black a lot. So these two projects are not
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tied together. It's not like a continuation of
one versus the. Other not any.
Continuation And do you think you might be doing that same
black and white Gray feel for future projects of yours?
I don't know, depends on how I feel.
I might, yeah. Got it.
And when it comes to this artwork here, was this something
that you came up with or a graphic designer perhaps?
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Yeah. No, I came up with that, yeah.
And also when it comes to the release date of this project.
OK, we were, we were with the bottle at the window, right?
Yes. OK, yeah, me and my aunt.
I can't remember that. Brooke.
Yeah. Now when it comes to this
release date here I saw that it was released on August 1st on
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the DSP Spotify but on title it says July 31st.
What was the official release date for this project?
What's the shit? Oh, you know, you know, it'd be
dropping at like midnight, 11 AM.
So yeah, it was August. It was on August 1st.
OK. Was there any significance
behind that release date choice for you?
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Significant behind. It was just time to drop.
OK. And when it comes to this body
of work, I know you've done other interviews, other media
and things of that nature, but are there any unknown facts or
stories in regards to this mix tape that's never been publicly
mentioned before yet? But the guy wants to say Beat
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ain't been publicly mentioned, but I made a lot of these songs
on the road, in the car. Yeah.
So you don't know. A lot of people say you need
these certain type of studios that you got to do business in
and make good records. I made these songs in the car,
man. Can you describe that setup?
It just pulled me up. Now look, it's like I'm in a
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car. I just got the mic.
My man's got his laptop. We driving.
I'm just chilling, smoking, doing my thing, playing beats
and I'll just get in my mouth. And is it a particular car?
I'm a blank truce. OK, Yeah.
That you did this and just curious, didn't know if you had
a favorite car maybe that you did this sort of thing in and
then what else? Anything else in regards to
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creating, recording, or releasing this project no one
publicly knows about yet? You haven't mentioned it in any
other interviews in regards to this mixtape.
Oh. I couldn't just say anything.
OK. And I got to ask you this
question now because it's 2025. Was there any AI technology used
in the creation of this project?Well, how would we do for some
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AI though? Well, some people are doing some
things vocally, some are using like mixing and mastering tools,
AI versions of that and maybe even the graphic design, the
artwork, there may be some AI usage involved with.
That yeah, no, we didn't do no AI.
Everything done by humans. Real life, in real time.
Now, as far as the length of this body of work, you
mentioned, it was 16 songs. You were thinking about 14, or
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you had fourteen in mind no matter what.
But why 16 at the end of the dayhere?
Because I really was going to hold back some songs for the
album, but I'm like, Nah, I'm going to drop them.
Just give me everything I got right now, but not the other
thing I got. But I'm going to give them these
two two because I fucked with them.
And how many tracks did you end up having to choose from before
you got to the 16? 56 songs that I chose from.
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And what was that process like? Just the narrowing down process
for you. It wasn't really that hard.
Well, it was it was, but some ofthe songs I just kept back and I
it was on a different vibe. So I ain't want to drop them
right now. But did it take you like a day,
a couple days, a week? Maybe it took a few, a few
months. Why did I say a month to come?
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I had to get out of songs together to that I like, 'cause
it was really like 300 songs, but I had to narrow down on
which ones that I wanted to see if I wanted to put on the tape.
Then I had the narrow down of which one's going to go on the
tape. Yeah.
And then what about this track list order?
Who puts that together? I did the track list.
And what was the process behind that for you?
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Just the track list itself, yeah.
I was just in the studio. That's when I played all the
songs. I just played all the songs and
put them in order on which way. I thought that I'd make the fans
stay in tune with it. And for you, was there a
strategy with the track list order?
So for example, there are some artists they have like a roller
coaster feel for their project. It's one song up, another song
down, one song up, another song down.
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For others it might be a storyline.
So it actually weaves throughoutat a story from beginning of the
project to the end of the project.
And then others it might be a a a slow roll and a slow exit
between different vibes. So maybe 2-3 songs have the same
feel and then 2-3 song kind of eases their way in and out of
the track was How would you? Describe this A-23 song and two
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songs like this and two, three, most songs like that.
Then end it off on a different note.
And was this the first time you ever done a track list order
like that? No.
OK. Yeah, I like the key to where
you can keep the same feeling towhere you don't want to turn
this off. Now, out of these 16 songs here,
what is your absolute favorite? I don't got no favorite.
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It's like if you ask a Mama what's her favorite kid.
If she got a favorite, somethingwrong with her.
Now, favorite or not, Yeah. What's your most honest song on
this project? You ever talked a lot?
I don't rap and fabricate every song that I ever made since a
little boy. I can tell you every boy,
everything that I'm talking about.
Each boy, each word. And why keep it so real for you?
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I mean, I ain't I ain't getting it to lie.
I really I like I got this shit to to change the narrative.
Like I want to tell the lie. I wouldn't even do it and.
What about this then? Since all these songs are honest
as you just described, what do you think is the real estate
song to you then? You just asked me the same
question to it. Got it.
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Didn't know if that would changethe trajectory here, but OK.
And what about this? OK, on this body of work there
are 4 features. Do you have a favorite feature
of the four? Now because I don't got no
favorite song. Didn't know if that applied to
the features here, but I do wantto hone in on 2 songs here.
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There is a feature with Wife andLucci called Loyalty is Real and
how soon did you get that that feature there after his release.
It wasn't really long at all, probably about to be home in
like a month. Probably not even.
I don't even remember how long it was.
I know he had hit us when we wasin Atlanta.
We just pulled up on that. One of the most genuine *** I
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don't fuck with in this rap gamesince I didn't start it.
I like make a *** want to push back from even me *** but I
don't show love since the day I met him.
I called me 3 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning and going to
pick up the phone every time. Now, did you have a relationship
with him prior to his? Incarceration.
Yeah, I I listened to his music like we grew up on his music,
but I never met him. So it's like when he came home
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from the Reach out, like, yeah, they showed me a lot of love.
Now was this recorded with you 2together in the same studio?
Yeah, we was in the studio. What was that session like?
I really made two. I made white ones that night
too. It's on the tape.
Yes, I would lie that night. And what was he like in the
studio? YFN Lucci there.
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Go to the next question, OK? I mean, it felt like the same
question in my own way. No problem, no problem.
And then what about Boosie Flow?OK, there's a video with you and
him together, music video. But when you were creating this
song, at what point does he findout this is titled Boosie Flow?
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I don't think I even I ain't think I never even told him to
the Kyle boots flow. It's a part I when I dropped it.
He ain't even heard the song till I pull up on him.
God damn. And then what was his reaction
when he finally. Heard that why I recorded it.
You see, I get a video. That's the that's his real
reaction. When we was doing the video, it
was the first time I heard it right then.
I ain't letting her until we played right then.
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So everything is live there, nothing reenacted.
Yeah, No. Got it.
All right, well, wrapping thingsup here just in regards to this
project, what have you learned about yourself through the
creation and release of this mixtape, if anything?
I don't think nobody can outworkme, but I've been through that.
I ain't taking no days. I have no sleep.
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I'm going to get it done. You want to do something, put
your best foot, put your best foot forward and keep going.
And last question here, in regards to this body of work,
can you give the audience 5 reasons to listen to this
mixtape? Fire reason.
Yes. Hustle, stay down, motivation,
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Lords, unity, respect, power. I can keep going.
And are there any plans here fora deluxe by any chance?
I don't really like deluxe. I did, I did one with my past
project but I don't think I'll do another deluxe.
And why not for you? What's the reasoning there?
Because if we're going to do it,look, we're going to ask some
more, something like we're goingto go back to the singles, yeah.
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And just for those in the audience that might have missed
that previous deluxe you did care to share the title to that
just for reference you? Call the one deluxe.
Yeah, that was like, see, I dropped the EP so that's how I
end up dropping the deluxe to itbecause it really only like Sam
a song I did. It looks like 1214, so I think.
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For those in the audience getting to know you here for the
very first time, care to share where you were born?
I'm in Dallas, TX. And care to share where you were
raised as well? I'm from Dallas, TX, to be
exact, New Dallas. I represent the whole state,
yeah. And does it get any more
specific than that when it comesto Oak Cliff?
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And then what? And then what?
Like sometimes people will say blocks and names and something
even more. Specific I don't want to talk
about no blocks. I really was in New Delhis man.
I mean it was in a movement, Unity, power, respect.
Y'all *** getting money in motion?
It did. And Speaking of that phrase, New
Dallas there, were you the inventor of that phrase?
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Nah, my brother came up with a dough.
Yeah but me and bro like the forefront of pushing it.
And there are others too that hashtag this and. 1015 it's a
lot. It's a lot of I really it's,
it's a lot of there's like there's partners, there's like
generally with each other, but it's a big movement.
Now can anyone just hashtag this?
Can anyone just say new Dallas or is it?
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Like the movement and you support what we got going on
that what I'm saying. But as far as just our partners,
like you'll see who's with us. Got it.
Yeah. Now when it comes to Dallas, for
those that have heard of the city but haven't had a chance to
visit yet, can you give the audience 5 tips?
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First time visiting Dallas, Is there anything you want to let
them in on? Be safe, move smart you fire
tips, move smart being your P&Q.Have fun, make memories, and
enjoy life. Very simple there.
Very simple and straight to the point.
All right. Perfect.
And I actually wanted to ask youabout New Dallas, and you
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answered it without me even asking you.
But that's what I was setting upthere for.
But it's OK What about this? Now, Who or what motivates you
at this point? Yeah.
Everybody. My whole team, my pilot, my mom,
my family, my friends, everything.
My motivator, everything. The grind, the hustle.
It's just me. Now, circumstances could be
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different for everyone, but there may be someone in the
audience who needs some motivational words or
encouragement themselves right now.
Can you give them any? Look, they probably heard me say
this in every interview. Stay down.
Whatever you want to do is goingto make sense.
No matter what somebody told youhow long it's going to take.
It might not seem like it's making sense right now.
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Stay down. We don't even make sense.
Just crying hard work every day.I'm so up, up and I still ain't
stopped working, I swear to God.So a lot of people ain't working
me. If you look at this interview,
you were working me before. Like when I get in our work
mode, I turn it to a different person because like I'm trying
to get it done. And if you ain't on the same
time with me, you're not understanding.
So we might bump heads, so we might not need to work together
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because you, you're not working as hard as me.
How am I working harder than you?
And I'm like, I'm good. I can go to sleep right now.
I'm not tripping on those bills.You calling me, telling me you
need the money, it ain't making sense.
You ain't trying to get the money.
So stay down, man. Whatever you want to do, stay
down with it is going to make sense.
You got to work hard, though. I didn't say it was going to be
easy. I just said stay down with it.
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Now I want to hone in on something you said previous and
when we were talking about your new mix tape here, the greatest
of all traps you mentioned in the cover art, you were sporting
$300,000 it just in jewelry alone.
No, that was on the cash side too.
Oh, that was on the cash side too.
Yeah, that was on. OK.
Excuse me, but you are sporting some pieces of jewelry during
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this interview and wanted to seeif you can break these items
down for the audience. Some people see these watches
and these bracelets. I got like 300 I'm in right now.
It is. 300 right here, yeah. So tell them to buy it however
they wanted to buy. I got like 300 on me right now
and I'm light as hell. Now, can you share any more
details about this set you're currently wearing?
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20 pointers in the face emerge like they're on ground.
Cuban with the piece 20 pointersin I ain't got the hood ring on
emerge in his joint. Petty rose gold, you know?
But I'm still like today. Earrings on too.
Yeah, I forgot about this is a flower shit, Yeah.
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Now, when it comes to these items of jewelry, care to share
the Jewelers behind any of thesepieces?
I got this from King Johnny Houston.
Yeah, King Johnny really did this whole little setup King
Johnny did. I got this from Iceman and
Dennis. Now for you, why use different
Jewelers? There are some that might stick
to 1. Yeah, 'cause it's right.
I I really feel like different Jewelers better for different
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things. Like King Jenny might be the
best for grills to me, certain Jewelers like, but when it kind
of watches, I like to go Ice Champ or really Benny.
I just got to watch from Benny. I just got to watch from one of
my little partners in Houston, too, yeah.
Now, do any of the Jewelers you deal with ever feel some type of
way that you do use other Jewelers and things of that?
Nature, it'll be crazy. It's like all you don't want
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everybody to get the money. It's enough for everybody.
So if you make you mad that I'm spending my money with somebody
else and I'm still coming to spend my money with you, then I
don't even need to be spending my money with you.
Now, of all the items you have during this set, one thing you
don't have is teeth. No grill on your teeth.
What is your opinion on grills, whether it's perm or pull out?
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Obviously you have veneers. Yeah.
I wouldn't wear no grill. I don't want one.
I don't know why. I just.
I never felt like I wanted a grill.
Yeah. Just curious there if.
I was to do something with my teeth, I redo them how to put a
stone in one of them or something.
But I wouldn't do no grill. Got it.
And you've always felt like thatjust never was.
Yeah, I had the teeth when I waslike 21.
(20:00):
Got it. And care to share who did the
veneers by the way? Dusty, I got like a fist of
female Dennis in Dallas. And OK, winding down the, excuse
me, some of the questions here on jewelry.
There are a few debates when it comes to jewelry.
I want to get your perspective on.
Let's start with watches here. There are some that debate, OK,
(20:22):
bust down versus plain jet, custom versus factory.
Obviously you have bust down during this interview.
What's your opinion on that thatdebate there?
Shit I got both. I'm always ready about it.
I just bought 2 bus down in in the last 12 days.
It's a anniversary rose gold, olive green face.
(20:43):
I mean, personally, this like this is a fun watch.
This something you wear when youwant to just chill and relax and
beat box stuff. This something you put in the
closet and collect for this. Like I can wear this every day.
I wouldn't wear this every day. So if for an investment, I'm
going to buy this. I want to just flash.
I'm going to buy this. Yeah.
(21:05):
And also when it comes to a jewelry, there's also another
debate here now with $300,000 that sounds like you spent.
Oh. Well, I'm like like 350.
I forgot. I forgot I had this on.
Yeah, 350. I was a little light.
Now when it comes to spending 350, this sounds.
Like really like hold on 375. I got my other joint in here.
There's 20 pointers in there, but I I fucked it up, you know,
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having some business it keep going.
I'm still light though. Now, OK, 375 here, The money you
spent sounds like natural diamonds, natural stones.
There is another debate, however, when it comes to
jewelry and lab diamonds. Lab stones.
What's your opinion on that? Can't do it.
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It's like me lying to you when I'm lying for my name.
I'm not even buy it. You're going to go more than I
lab stone my estate auntie goingto buy the real thing.
But it's like a dealer tried to tell me like last week, I
shouldn't buy no pointer earrings.
I should go to help. I'm like, they don't even make
no sense. They don't make sense.
But this diamond game is scary. He showed me a loud diamond,
(22:10):
showed me a real diamond. You want you can't tell the
difference. A lot of these rappers are lying
to y'all, man. They weren't these fake
diamonds. Y'all thinking they're real.
You got to get them tested. Everything I spent is natural
stones. And what about this when it
comes to this amount of money you spent, right?
And you could say 375, however way you want to divide it, so on
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and so forth. That's how you described it.
But let's just say what's on your neck is the price of a
piece of real estate or a luxuryvehicle.
What's on your wrist, another plot of land and on your other
wrist, another plot. Do you look at your jewelry in
those types of terms? Like I have a car around my
neck. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I got yeah, and you got a call, but it's like you got to have
(22:55):
the money to be able to do this.You don't spend it all.
Don't spend it all on Drew. I got real estate too.
I just invested like $1,000,000 in the house and we're going to
do another million and refurbishing rehab, set it for
like 3.3 million. So we're like in 1.3 million
profit. So it's a difficult, this is
fun. It's what you do with the
(23:15):
extras. And Speaking of 375, just in
jewelry right here. You see what the minions came in
there though. Real estate, the business handle
the business first. This is just the issue.
This is fun. What you in front of that
though? No, I was going to ask you this.
OK. Obviously, you're not wearing
the plain Jane Rolly on camera and the Ring on camera.
(23:38):
So let's just say 300 on you, just on your body right now.
Yeah, Yeah. For someone in the audience that
has no jewelry, yeah. What does that feel like knowing
that you have $300,000 on your body at one time?
I. Feel great, but it's like you
can't, you can't, you can't cherish the jury because if you
(23:59):
lose it, then how you going to feel?
I don't wake up and still feel the same.
When I walked in this interview,when you just walked and met me
at this door, you didn't see none of the jury.
Wow, because I'm playing it back.
I'm chilling, got my hood on when I walk out and I'm from the
took this back in and chill. I'm still feel the same.
But to be able to purchase something like this and coming
from where I come from, I feel great.
(24:20):
You look at my wrist. I come from nothing.
I come from robbing me in aggravated cases like I come
from risking my life and trap I was everyday.
I'm sitting here chilling and I ain't even got it all along.
Feel great. I'll tell you stay there.
Anything you want to do is goingto make sense.
It's going to pay out. Now I've got one more topic for
you in regards to this jewelry here.
Yeah, you have double M on this chain is.
(24:44):
Pendant here, the biggest. What is the meaning behind that?
There are people that see you post that all the time.
They see the logo in your music videos.
Constant posting of the double MCan you explain?
It's the biggest my brother. I did this for me and brother.
My brother Lamarck passed when Iwas 17/20/17 and we really made
me want to take our revenue. You said you just said double M,
(25:05):
so that mean a lot to me. I mean, I'm in Atlanta right now
with DJ smiles. He he talking about my brother
ain't gone. He's been gone there 10 years.
But I'm putting on about their business.
Now when it comes to double M, you use the phrase brother.
Are you talking figuratively here or biologically?
No, it's my, it's my blood. But it ain't my blood.
But it's my mother, Brother. It might well be brother.
(25:26):
Yeah. Now for those in the audience
that want a little bit more context, they they constantly
see you saying his name. And yeah, I met bro in
kindergarten. I I'm probably the same.
First time. First time.
Now was it kindergarten? What?
What's the 1st grade did you go to?
You're probably kindergarten, preschool.
They've been my best friend my whole life.
We never had we we we taught each other how to fight for busy
(25:48):
each other. Caught our first case together,
weigh each other clothes dry outand then shoes.
And this is my best friend. Did everything with this man.
It's a big difference. I ain't talking about no ***
that's playing like I told somebody like we the same thing.
How close to this man did my real brothers It's it's a
different. That's why I called him my
brother like my Mama know this, though, This ain't nothing I'm
(26:08):
playing about his Mama know this.
Our whole families know how close we would the world know if
you grew up with us. You want to see this man without
seeing me? Now again, for those that have
heard his name and you sang his name and music and the logo and
everything but didn't have a chance to to meet him like you
did, didn't have a bond with himlike you did.
You've already shared some insight into this answer, but
(26:29):
just want to ask in case you want to add on to what you've
said and if not, we'll move forward.
But what was he really like? You see how these diamonds
you're shining? I hear.
Walk in. Just light the room up.
I swear, you just light the roomup.
Flashy. Funny.
I'm telling you, he just like the room.
I can't even explain. They're my man's.
(26:50):
Now did he do music at all? No, he didn't want me to rap.
I won't say that's why I pushed anyone.
We didn't rap. All the other problems rapping
party too. We catch the case.
We didn't rap. I I started rapping like a week
before a bro died. He the only person knew I could
rap. I made a little freestyle,
called him on the phone. We on the phone for about an
hour talking about the business.They don't write down bro, what
if I start rapping? Hey now you don't want to rap
(27:11):
and I want to do no rapping. That's goofy bro.
Look at that. It's goofy.
We weren't going to rap. I made the song.
You're like, Nah, I ain't going to lie to do sound good.
Then bro passed away like a weeklater.
That's why I kept rapping. Now, hypothetically speaking
here, what do you think he wouldthink of the way your life and
career into music, which was something he said was goofy in
(27:32):
the very beginning, but kind of.Turned a different bowling I'm
telling you like this is my bestfriend so whatever I'm winning
with it. That's why when I made the song
and it sounded good, he's like Nah, bitch, it might yeah, you
might have tried make something else.
Like I would have been right here with the same thing.
You had a big ass chain on like whatever he want fast quote
whatever bitch he wanted like that my man's.
(27:54):
Now you mentioned this all took place a week before he passed,
Was that the last time you 2 communicated?
Was that hour of conversation. I talked to brother the day he
passed away. Yeah, he just texted me say his
phone broke or something. He was going to hit me.
He damned me. I'll show you the day I got the
damn on Instagram. He damned me like I would say 30
minutes before he passed away. Hey, I'm from the college and he
(28:15):
saw my partner called me and saymy man's just passed.
I'm thinking he's saying bro with the Jack.
I just caught a case. Caught a case April 5th.
April 5th I catch another aggravated robbery in Dallas.
I go back to Houston, my man's passed.
April 26th I start rapping. Probably April I wouldn't when I
went to jail April 5th I wasn't rapping.
I ain't make a song. By the time April 26th I had
(28:38):
just started rapping. Bro passed away.
It's the same month I just caught another case.
We just came home from juvenile.I ain't even been home, not even
a year. With all that was going on and
the loss of your best friend, how did you handle that at the
time? How did you cope?
With it made me I had to constantly agree with it every
day. Bro it hit hard.
You think I want to be able to wear all this shit in my man's
(29:00):
in here. They don't want to go on these
stage and go state to state do all this shit and bro can't see
none of them. Shit hit different.
Now to switch things up a littlebit here, Yeah.
Do you have a favorite memory ofhim you'd like to share with
the? Audience, I wouldn't say a fail.
Every one of them I cherish every day we had together.
(29:20):
It was so short to me. It was so short to me because
life still going. So now I really see.
And we ain't thinking. We ain't thinking.
My *** going to die. That's the last person we got
was going to die. Look boy, man, come on, y'all
crazy man. We bowed too hard.
We did. We did everything together.
But that's OK. It's been like everything meant
to happen for a reason. And winding down the questions
(29:42):
about him, What's the best advice you receive from him or
most important thing you learn being around him?
Loyalty, who's the definition oflawyer?
Whatever I had bro here we don'twent on players and robbed
people and I didn't kept all themoney just because we were going
through it. The situation like that was my
brother for real like that was my real brother.
(30:04):
I know play until my alley. Little *** be slamming a man's
ass, stealing from him, going ona bag though, going on a book
bags and shit, trying to steal ashoe.
All this little hoe shit you ***be doing going to your partner's
spot when he gone and stealing his weed breaking in like y'all
know what's going on. It wasn't none of that man.
It's a different type of little who grew up on a different type
of club. And ultimately here, yeah.
(30:28):
What do you think his passing taught you?
What did you learn from that? Taught me everything I told you.
Made me. It built me as a man.
It built me as a man. You did say that it.
Changed my life like why my partner died on plays.
I'm I was a robber bro. Like I ain't going to lie to
you. I have fire eradicated at 1514.
(30:50):
It's what I can't I don't live so many different stages in
life. I went from Robin *** so we went
to trapping Horde and I'm a rap star.
Like I don't live phases in life.
Now I'm trying to go real estateand like this shit.
I got a real story, man. I ain't I ain't posted.
I'm not just here for nothing. I'm not just one of the rappers.
I just realign everything. I'm telling you, I've been
seeing and she's as a kid. Now ask you a variety of
(31:16):
questions here about Double M Isthere anything else you want to
mention about him? And the biggest I did it for
Bro. It wouldn't be no me without
Bro. And I do want to ask you
something additional here. You mentioned this is something
you you still grieve to this dayabout.
But I do want to ask you this, mentally speaking, has this been
(31:38):
something you ever sought? Any professional help perhaps?
No. Why not?
What's your opinion on that? Usually I keep going.
I don't really really trust people to be sitting there
talking about tell y'all about how I feel.
Just curious there on what your outlook was on that there?
(31:58):
I'm not against it though. If you feel like you grieve and
you feel like you need professional help, seek what's
best for you. But I just haven't did nothing
like that. Do you call them fans,
followers, supporters, Maybe even have a name for this group
of people that are really into you?
Fans, supporters, follows, you can be out whatever you want to
(32:20):
be preferred as as long as you're with the movement.
I'm with you, I'm with you. I love who everybody, everybody
who support me. I appreciate y'all.
I support you the same way. Now ask you a variety of
questions here in regards to a variety of topics, but is there
anything you weren't asked they really want to know while you're
here? I don't know.
(32:41):
Just stay tuned. You'll see.
I can't tell you what's going onthere.
Never let you live here. Know what you're right here
doing? And what about in the in regards
to this interview here, this conversation, this discussion,
is there anything you want to add to what you've said?
Is there anything you want to subtract, perhaps from what
you've said? Yeah, you think you should want
That was the same question twice.
(33:03):
You just can't. You think he just tried to twist
it around. That was the same question to
give you twice, and that's the same answer.
OK, Yeah. And any last words here before
you leave? I appreciate you for fucking
with me, Jane, like I fuck with the world.
You didn't letting the world seeanother side of my story.
(33:47):
I'd like to go to the.
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