Starlito, Don Trip Break Down "Step Brothers 4 Life" Mixtape (Full Interview)

From Nashville, TN recording artist, Starlito, and hailing from Memphis, TN recording artist, Don Trip, sit down with DJ Smallz for over 78 minutes, opening up about their past amongst a variety of topics. This interview was filmed on 4/25/25.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Now, can you explain to the audience everything they need to
know about Step Brothers for Life?
Everything they need to know, shit, maybe not everything you
need to know. It's a it's a beautiful project,
if I must say so myself. I think it's a great reflection

(00:23):
of what we are in life at the, you know, at this present
moment. And it was.
It was fun to create. Yeah, what do you say?
It's a top tier rapper like it'sthe bars are are intact, you

(00:45):
know, indeed, and and that's almost a lot of art in this day
and age. He'll hop around.
So we trying to restore that feeling and for us as far as a
series or a brand, it's really progressive, hopefully shows,
you know, some of our evolution 14 years in on this on this

(01:06):
series. And Speaking of series. 14.
Step Brothers for Life is in reference to the 4th
installment. Indeed.
Of that series, but let's zoom out.
And for those that are just now hearing about the fourth
installment, haven't listened toone through 3, may have heard of
the brand, haven't pressed play yet.
Can you just walk those people in the audience from the very

(01:28):
beginning, just the Step Brothers brand and that series,
the first installment. Can you explain the title, the
reasoning for the title and how that even came together?
Yeah, it was. It was inspired pretty directly
from the film Step Brothers starring Will Ferrell and John C
Reilly. And their characters meet with

(01:50):
their parents. They're they're adults, they're
like 40 year old overgrown kids and their parents are getting
married and they both still livewith their parents.
So it's it's a comedy and we drew some inspiration there.
We kind of haphazardly or semi randomly arrived in each other's

(02:12):
lives or presents or whatever. And some of those characters
like we found ourselves to be more alike than different.
You know, even I think in route like people tend to kind of be
standoffish or so into themselves.
That is like I'm me and forget what you got going on over

(02:35):
there. But in that film they they were
those characters were kind of like almost trying not to rock
with each other, if that makes sense.
And they ended up finding a bondor forging a bond that was like
a, a brotherhood, even though they weren't actually related.
And as far as well like being 2 artists from Tennessee, he's
from Memphis and I'm from Nashville.

(02:56):
Like we met this kind of like, you know, we, we got past that
and got to work and figured out like, hey, this probably worked
really well. And then it was a tagline in
that film like, did we just become best friends?
And that was like a turning point in the film.
And we took from that and prettymuch bottled it up into the mix

(03:18):
type form. Our first project was like kind
of a mix type splattering paint on a wall and arrived at
beautiful art. So here we are.
OK, now let's dive a little bit deeper with some of those
details you just presented. The first installment was
actually released in July of 2011, but prior to that in the

(03:40):
formation of the first installment of this brand
together, this collaboration together, do you do either of
you recall the first time you two met how that even happened?
Yeah, The first time we met, I was on the road with Yo Gotti
and he made a stop in Nashville.I can't really recall what it

(04:02):
was, got it had to do, but we kind of split off and once you,
the studio, me and me and Zed Ziller.
You familiar with Zed? You know what I want to say?
YG was with us, was he? I'm not sure.
I think he. He was around at the time.
I don't I don't know if he was on the road that particular

(04:24):
trip. YG.
Was around and that would be around the days of the IM.
Tour. No, not that YG big.
Homie Yeah, Big homie G You know, I've known him for too
long, so I called him. The name I know him is from
Memphis, but I think not really sure if, if, if big homie G was
with us tonight that they my my shit fuzzy.

(04:47):
But either way, we was at the athis at his spot and he had a guy
that was getting a verse from Zed.
And you know, one thing led to another.
He convinced him to get a verse from me and that was really when
we first met. So I don't think we did a record
together that day. I think I just, no, we didn't.
We didn't actually. But from that we did it, you

(05:09):
know, we did a session there andI want to say we went, I want to
say we linked up again, we didn't record.
We just was, we just was on the road at what?
We just was there at the same time.
I want to say Miami or Orlando or something.
I'm not really sure which spot it was.
It was a Super Bowl or some shit.

(05:32):
Either way, I can't really recall either way.
You know, that was us being around each other with no music
involved whatsoever. But from that, you know, I guess
we just, you know, the bond justkind of started growing.
And, you know, when we when we met, it wasn't like scheduled a
plan. It just so happened, you know,

(05:53):
we, we was going to be in Nashville.
So we, you know, we figured we'ddo something other than than be
on the bus. And like I said, when we linked
the the rest kind of, you know, as they say, the rest was was
history or you know. Now, it's one thing for artists
to collab with one another, maybe on a song or two.
Or three or. 4 or whatever, but whose idea initially with the

(06:15):
first installment Step Brothers,was it to take it to that level
and do a collaborative mix tape at the time?
Well, we had done. We had done what about 5 or 6
records? And the first time we the first
session. Yeah.
You know, initially we just was going to get in the studio with
each other and just work. And the first session we cranked

(06:37):
out about 5 or 6 records. And from there, I can't really
say which one of us, it might not have even been us that that
sparked that idea to do a tandemtape, you know, at least the
initial, you know, the initial idea.
And from there it was like, you know, it might not be a bad idea
and, you know, start putting a few of the pieces together.

(07:00):
And as far as recording, we didn't really have to do much,
but just get back in the studio.So it kind of built itself.
And while we were while we was doing the first session, that's
what he was watching on the on the, on the computer, on the
laptop. I want to say it was a laptop.
I don't know the, the details was fuzzy for me, but he was
watching the the step brothers movie and I remember that

(07:24):
distinctly because he watched this shit like 3 or 4 times.
I was, I was confused and you know, he, he watched it the way
my kids watched Shrek. He just, you went off and he
turned it back on. I, I didn't understand, you
know, I'm on the other side of it.
So I'm hearing shit that I heardof, you know, a moment ago like

(07:44):
that. What the fuck is this shit on
loop? And, you know, he was, I don't
know, he's really, I don't know if he still love it now, but he
really loved it then and it worked.
It just it was the the perfect coincidence.
You know, the I want to say I had seen that movie before, but
you know, I had, I didn't have it on loop like like Craig.

(08:07):
But like I said, you know, it was it was a perfect
coincidence. It was a lot of things in the
movie that reminded us of, you know, how how we connected.
So, you know, was it just fit? Yeah, it was.
It was intentional. It was, I mean, sometimes just
play things as a backdrop or whatever of what's going on
theme wise. And and so it was intentional on

(08:30):
a on a lot of time. The the idea to collaborate
jointly for the cycle project. It just kind of made sense like
considering their camaraderie like I said in the movie and I
just a fun fact, I guess the first project dropped you, you
mentioned July 25th, 2011. That was like the three-year

(08:51):
anniversary of when the film came out.
So that was intentional as well.The day it dropped, it was on
like some network on TV. Back-to-back, actually.
It was, yeah. They played it the whole day.
So it contributed, you know, theearlier days of Twitter, like we
we trended on on Twitter when that was really a thing.
And, you know, just that quirky niche marketing, I guess

(09:19):
figuring out how to use the Internet.
But taking a a court classic of a film like that and bringing it
into hip hop. It it worked.
Obviously it worked well for us.But yeah.
Playing you saw even other renditions of it.
But playing it on in the studio was, yeah, definitely an
international thing. With you at this point, you know

(09:41):
where does this movie rank in your all time list?
It's probably top ten. That's, I mean, it's near and
dear because of the brand that we've created parallel to it,
but it's it's probably top ten, top 10 film.
And do either of you have a personal favorite scene from the
film? Yeah, My personal favorite scene

(10:02):
is, I don't know character names.
I think he I don't know. He would be Brendan, right?
John C Riley. He's Dale.
OK, Dale. Dale he and what's Dale Doback
or something like that. Yeah.
He and when he in the in the men's bathroom and and his

(10:22):
what's his name? What's the other guy name the
brother? Damn, we were just talking about
it. Tonight, hey, I forgot it out
that he said. Brennan's actual brother.
Yeah, his his wife had made a quick visit in the bathroom.
It's slippery. If there's a favorite city,

(10:44):
that's my favorite city that in the other one when they when
they had the when they had the dinner table.
Oh yeah, so it was a most sexy. Yeah.
My favorite scene probably be when they become best friends
and, and you know, and they, they find that they have a

(11:06):
connection on the blind and they're really excited about it.
And it's like we can do so many activities and and they build
bunk beds. The worst, worst positive way
you could build. Yeah, they they, they build,
they turn 2 regular beds into bunk beds and singing Montel
Jordan, this is how we do it andthen.

(11:30):
Chaos. It's when.
When buddy jumps on the top bunk, the beds collapse and
smash the other character in between.
I I laugh like I've never seen it before every time I see that
scene. So we had a record how bunk beds
step brothers too. So yeah, that's my favorite
scene. And Speaking of this movie here,

(11:51):
has there been any reaction fromany of the actual characters in
the movie to your brand or any of the artwork?
Or if not the character from themovie, maybe people affiliated.
With this film, it was a Will Ferrell parody account that that
reacted to it like like I say inTwitter, spies, but not.
Nah, Nah, Nah. OK, Now let's just dive a little

(12:14):
bit deeper with you 2 here before we move on to the 4th
installment and get some detailson that.
What's a studio session like with You 2 at this point?
Can you take the audience into what that's like?
It's humid flames, hot flames there.
It's like a sauna. No, it's not actually.
Pretty fucking cold. Studio session with me and

(12:40):
create. It's not work, if that make any
sense. And we really just hanging out.
The music is just like a, you know, it's just a a bonus, so to
speak. We not people assume we be in

(13:02):
that competing, but in real time.
We just hanging out. You know, I'm kicking it with my
brother and you know, we get some music on while we're in
there and sometimes, you know, sometimes there might be a few
other people in there with us, but for the most part it's, you
know, isn't isn't not ever any new people.

(13:23):
That makes any sense. Shit, I've been, we say 14
years. Yeah, you know, shit, I don't I
don't even have any new friends for since, you know, fucking
high school. So but I would say, you know,
it's it's just us vibing, man. We chilling, you know, might be
some, some some snacks or some food in there and occasionally

(13:49):
some, some, some herbal fumes, but that those don't come from
me. But you know, you know that it
might be president. And Speaking of that, we've
talked about that previously andinterviews just between me and
you, but is that ever an issue for you when you're in the
studio and there is some herbalness around?

(14:12):
No, the herbalness don't bother me.
That fucking, that tobacco. That'll do it, though.
I'm cigarettes. Yeah, I got to put you out.
But that's anywhere Studio. We can't.
I can't stand with you outside if you're smoking a cigarette.
I don't know that just that thatain't even refreshing in no
mana. You think from the the

(14:32):
herbalness that maybe I will endup with like contact a contact
high some I don't think I if I have ever experienced it, I
wouldn't know. I think I might be immune to it
at at this at this point. What if the herbalness is
encased in something tobacco ishlike a blood rat or?

(14:56):
I can't really tell all, it's just smell like the same
herbalness to me, but that the the cigarettes is a whole
different shit. That's that's not herbalness,
that's acid. Fucking poisonous.
Yeah, he chooses tobacco. He likes smokeless tobacco.
Chewing tobacco is ridiculous, man.

(15:17):
All right, Lido, let me ask you this point.
Point Direct Don Trips Characteristics is your absolute
favorite about it. Yeah, that, yeah.
Characteristics. Yes, even just asking.
You the question, if not a favor, what comes to your mind
immediately just posing that question?

(15:38):
Well, I. Don't.
I don't know if you mean like musically, artistically or
personally or personally. Just as a person?
Yes. Favorite characteristic of his
team? I don't know if aloofness is
that a word. What the fuck is that?
He's very aloof, but what the fuck is a loof?

(16:00):
I know a loof is what the What the fuck is a loof?
You're not a loof. I know I'm not a.
Loof. What the fuck is a loof?
You looking up a loof for me? OK.
But it was between that, see, you're actually being aloof
right now. I don't know what the fuck that.

(16:22):
Mean. You got?
Can you give me the definition you're pulled up on?
Google. That.
Friendlier forthcoming. Cool and distant.
Yeah, I. Mean that speaks to I throw it
off. I am that that's a distinct
character. But but I the reason why is

(16:42):
because I champion people being the same consistent.
Like if you can be, if you're distant, just be distant all the
time. If you're aloof, if you're
friendly, be friendly all the time.
I don't got time to like reconfigure, recalibrate,
readjust to the way you are. And yeah, I I can like

(17:04):
appreciate him existing in his own bubble and being his own
person. The other thing that would have
kind of mind was unapologetic and and that's I can relate to
it. He's he's a little bit more
pronounced. You know, it sends music and out

(17:26):
it too. But but I know I'm well enough
to know that it's not like a facade.
He's not putting nothing on it. The way he is is the way the
what he presents is the way he is.
And you know, yeah, that was aloof.
I'm going to stick with that. I'm going.
To dig it, same question. To you Mr. Trip here about you
know favorite characteristic of his to you.

(17:53):
They sincere, you know, you can tell you know when he feels
strongly about something, you know it's evident and you know
he don't he don't hide that. If anything, you know it, it
kind of you know, it kind of spews out.
You can tell that, you know, that he, it's, it's near and
dear to him or that, you know, he feels strongly about it and

(18:19):
fatherhood. I, I think, I think it fits well
on him. You know, I, I've known him, of
course, you know, I knew him before he had a child and to
see, to see the father he's become, I think, I don't know if
that counts as a characteristic or not, but you know, I think, I
think that's noble as shit. You know that that means the
world to me. And I think that I think that's

(18:43):
in real time, that's more important to me than than
anything than any, you know, anykind of relationship with me,
your relationship with your child.
And I think you do a hell of a job.
You know, I think you, I think you're a phenomenal father.
And just to be fair here, back to you, Ito about trip on the

(19:04):
opposite end of the spectrum, what's the characteristic of his
you can't stand? Bothers you?
Gets under your skin. That's that's funny as hell.
You know you'll throw. You a wild card that's.
What we're here for. It's marriage counseling.

(19:26):
Yeah, Yeah. Exactly.
This is a different form of therapy.
Yeah, indeed, I'm interested. We already.
Know this way it it it's still morphs with the other answer and
that's that's probably why relationship working
relationship and otherwise worksis what's the promptness tart in

(19:54):
this yeah he never on time nowhere like but he don't he
don't give a fuck but he doesn'tcare like he's unapologetic
about it like it's it's baked into the schedule I.
Trip going to be an hour late. So, you know, we that's the

(20:14):
thing like we got to be there at12.
We going to tell him 11 and still he still might get that
one, you know, but at the same time, the fact that it's like he
wears it very much like what kind of starts I get here.
So what we're going to do, we'rehere now what we going to do,
you know, but I I've learned to like embrace it or laugh at it

(20:40):
or, you know, even it works. I guess it works for me to say
that if if that's the polar opposite of like some of the
just for insights, like some of the studio sessions with this
album, I would lay down low. There it is.
But that led to some of the magic moments creatively because

(21:02):
whereas I may have gotten it early, some of it honestly, like
I got some solo stuff done just to not, you know, make no use of
the time, a waste of time, if you will.
Some of the times he may walk inthe studio and, and the ideas
are already in motion or, or, and it's just kind of like, I

(21:22):
let me just jump in where we are.
And that's back to that, like you said, what does the studio
session look like? It's not so static.
It's not so like, are we going to go here?
And there was probably only one session where we knew what we
was going to the studio to do. Out of, I think 6 sessions, only
one of them actually had a directive.
And I was because we were finishing.

(21:42):
We, we knew what we was, it was to complete the project.
But so yeah, it's making pluses out of minuses, if you will.
And I I do also kind of believe time is an illusion any any down
way. So as long as the job get done,
it's called a perfect time anyway and in true.
Don trip fashion. This interview started 15

(22:05):
minutes later than scheduled. That's light.
That's early then now. Again, same question here, Don
trip about. To be fair on the spectrum.
What's the characteristic of his?

(22:25):
You can't. I can see.
Let me see. Come on man, Not too much.
It bugs me, it bothers me. It gets under my skin.
Let me see. I'll.

(22:51):
Say maybe not to the extent of bugs me bothers me and get under
my skin, but sometimes, you know, well, not so much for me,
maybe for other people or you know, people around us, but I
had to like, you know, I think sometimes when we get together,

(23:12):
he be needing it. So he even though he is an only
child, sometimes he he started to act like an only child and we
know when we connect, we know it's it's I don't know really
how to explain it, but when we when we connect, then his he

(23:33):
started to move like he got a brother, if that make any sense.
Hopefully that makes sense. But if we're not in the same
place, then he he still move like the only child Craig be
having like same thing. I guess the opposite.
He got like tight schedules. He got it all planned out and

(23:54):
shit for some of the things he'dbe doing and now you got 8 kids,
man, I can't I can't keep up with this shit he'd be trying to
pull off. I make it happen best.
Well, I guess, I guess I can't say best I can because, you
know, I always deliver, but I don't know.
I guess that, you know, sometimes I guess that's my, my,

(24:15):
the thing I don't like he only got one child and he's the only
child. That's that's it.
I come from, you know, it was many of us and I got many little
ones. So he don't know how
unpredictable time management can be in, in, in real time.
So hopefully have four more kidsand then then you know, I, I

(24:37):
won't have nothing. I I can't stand stand about bugs
me, bothers me or gets under my skin.
Now, Leto, that is a interestingelement here.
The fact that you grew up as an only child and then you have
this brand with Don Tripp calledStep Brothers.
Is that something that is ironicto you?
Or is that were you one of thosekids way back when that always

(25:01):
wanted a sibling? Or did you like the only child
feeling or he was? One of them kids that when you
when you go to the playground and you don't do something, he
like he take his ball and go home.
So then we can't play no more because he took the ball and.

(25:24):
I was at some point of my childhood, I did want a sibling,
you know, It's interesting I go through that with with my
daughter. Like especially went to see
Mufasa and there's a song in in the film, I was one of a
brother. And when I heard the song, I was
like, damn, I probably felt likethat as a kid.
So yeah, that was that was my truth.

(25:45):
At some point, I think the way Iwas raised was raised in a
single parent household. I realized that I understand it
that much more now that it ain'tjust as simple as you just
procreating and just making a, you know, just have a kid that
you're bored or, you know, the commitment to parenthood is and
otherwise. So I did at some point, you

(26:06):
know, want a sibling. And I think even in rap, like
you said, ironic. I the irony is not it's not
beyond me that I found like a sibling and rap pretty much a
stepbrother for Brandon site because I I kind of always
wanted to be in a rap group likeand you know, coming up with the

(26:30):
hot boys and UGK and etcetera. I always start like a rap group.
A rap crews were like a cool thing.
So to find a a rhyme partner it was yeah, I think that was some
part of it. Like you said, the differences
and upbringing in that regard. Like I'm still like very family

(26:51):
oriented even, you know, I was real close to to some of my
cousins that were like siblings growing up.
But yeah, in rap it was like theirony of our partnership and and
brand name, even although I don't have true siblings is kind
of what step sibling. Yeah, I do now.

(27:15):
Yeah. OK, it's yeah.
Got it. Now, in a perfect world, because
you do have one child, as previously mentioned here in
this conversation, in a perfect world, would you like to have
another child for your daughter because you grew up as an only
sibling? Or are you content because you
grew up that way, that she growsup that way?

(27:38):
Yeah, in a in a perfect world, you know, if you could form fit
things as to your choosing. Yeah, I'd like to have a son.
I guess that's that's what I'm saying.
I like for her to have a siblingbecause you do get lonely a
child or like, you know, I see how even we shot the cover for

(27:58):
for this project, how excited that she is to just to be around
other children. And if that was like a everyday,
I think she would make a great big sister and and whatever
else. So I agree with that if I but it
again, it ain't that simple because I don't I don't want to
be a single parent, you know, 2 times over and you don't want to

(28:21):
create it right. Another broken home or compound
was was already there. But yeah, perfect world, Sure,
now speaking. Of the cover right that you just
brought up. Can you shed some light on that,
the direction of this concept, why the cover looks the way it
does for the 4th installment? So on and so forth here.

(28:45):
Well, we wanted to display our lives in the current state and
kind of give you a glimpse of of, you know, the important
things to us. And it just so happened, you
know, he's only got one child onthe cover and I got 8.
But I think that kind of gives you a, a, a closer look at the

(29:06):
dynamic of what we do because, you know, he, he's familiar with
my children and vice versa. It's, it's, it's like 1 big
family. So it looks like a family
portrait. And, you know, that's always
been, you know, the in the forefront of, you know, our
purpose. And at least, you know, since

(29:26):
he's had a child has been his purpose.
And I think I think in a lot of cases, when it come to rappers
being fathers, a lot of a lot ofthem might put that secondary
or, you know, put it on the backburner, You know, the the idea

(29:47):
of fatherhood. And for us, it's the opposite.
You know, that means more than everything.
And you know, you as a fan, you might want a million records a
day, but I can't do that. I got ain't no I got people to
take care of and, you know, I got other responsibilities.
I think that was for the most part, we wanted to to give you

(30:09):
what to illustrate. Yeah.
Go ahead. Do you?
Mean to pitch off there, no? I mean, he he said it pretty
pretty much perfectly, but just a little bit more undercover.
It was an update of a prior cover, the Step Brothers 2
cover. We're re enacting, recreating
that the same from the movie where they're going for a job

(30:32):
interview. Their parents prompted them to
go get a job and they're sittingin the lobby waiting for the
interview, I guess resumes in hand, and they got on tuxedos,
which is kind of crazy the way atuxedo the job interview so and
they did each. Interview in tandem, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So, So on Stair Brothers Two, we

(30:53):
like I said, recreated that. So we're updating that.
You can see we both put on a fewpounds since then some more.
Like you said, my hair is. Long, bit thicker.
He's actually great. Yeah, it's it's.
A different shade and a little bit more volume, but also our

(31:14):
families have grown since that time.
He's had a few additions and so have I and so I was progression
of time like all these projects,all of our music.
I feel like a larger time capsules and they are right and
so forth from the cover, like ifyou were familiar there, you can

(31:34):
see how some things have changedand it and it's pronounced.
He he noted that is one of the, you know, characteristics that
he holds up higher props of the the fatherhood element.
Going back to the first three projects, I wasn't a father like
even to the other part, I wasn'table to empathize or like truly
understand what he was navigating and his parenting

(31:59):
life or his life outside of music.
I, I think I knew I was aware, but like I said, empathy is, is
something completely different. I was always aware, but I just
probably didn't, didn't know, you know, how to how that work
until like it became my reality.And so like I said, like putting

(32:23):
that out there is, is just what it is like now.
I'm probably still the scale proportion of it because it's
times 8. It's still not the same, but I
can understand it a lot better. And and so, yeah.
And also it was just a cool thing, like bring your kids to
work, that kind of thing. So for them to be a part of what

(32:46):
we're doing like they're there, you know, it's not a day day
that goes by that we not in their lives directly so.
And whose idea was this initially?
This update to the previous cover, including all the kids on
it, You know, that whole thing. Did one of you 2 spearhead that?

(33:07):
Yeah, I don't know which one of us though.
A lot of times that's just how our shit work.
You know, one of us might have the have a initial idea and.
If you know. If we like it, we just start
building from there. I don't much.
I don't, I don't he might know better than me, but I don't

(33:27):
really keep track of who you know who, who I whose idea was
what, Because a lot of times when we building, it's a, you
know, it's a joint effort. So I really couldn't say.
I might not have had much input,but I'm like, I really can't
fucking. I don't remember.
But either way, it was a it was just me and him to, you know, to

(33:51):
come up with the idea that wasn't it wasn't a third party
in that regard. We we sat in, I want to say we
spoke about it a few times. I just don't remember whose idea
was, was what. Yeah, it was.
Just conversation as we got intomaking the the project with
bounce ideas off of one another,you know, for song music sake

(34:15):
and you know, we really forever.Junk, even when it's not music.
We That's just how we function figuring.
Out how to how to market this whole thing that's those
conversations that that just endup happening not not in a
planning meeting kind of way would just it probably is in the
studio as best I can remember, because it's like, what are we

(34:37):
going to do for the cover? And they only made one movie.
So it ain't that much to draw from as far as like I think step
brothers 3 was we it was animated, but it was the scene
in the movie from like a a picture.
You know, it was a picture like kids would have taken, but they

(34:59):
grown as hell and we recreated that that photo.
So, you know, at this point, although it was derived from and
inspired by the film at this point is almost as much to draw
from, from what we poured into, you know what I'm saying?
Our our own franchise. And yeah, updating it was just

(35:21):
like, damn, we were in our mid 20s and the point when we
started, started this and everything is different like.
And. Let's lean into that.
Now Speaking of conversations between you 2 here, OK, going to
ask each of you this question here.

(35:42):
We'll start with Don Tripp. What's the best advice you
received from Lido or most important thing you'll learn
being around him so far? It was a it.
Was a while ago. A long while ago we might have
been doing Step brothers one, I'm not really sure.

(36:03):
My timelines are horrible. I I can't keep up with that kind
of shit. But I fell out with somebody
that was close to me and I don'tremember what he said verbatim,
but it stuck. He was like, look at it like
they doing you a favor. They're removing themselves from

(36:24):
your your space and you rather them do it now when you're not
dependent on them, then you knowthen later when you thought you
could depend on them. And that shit always stuck and I
fucked a hard drive up while we was having a conversation.
That's probably why I remember it too, because I.

(36:45):
I was. Holding a fucking laptop.
Now a matter of fact, I think you fucked a hard drive, but it
might have been you holding the laptop, I don't know.
What the? Yeah, one of us fucked the hard
drive up because one of us was holding the laptop.
I can't remember which one of usit was.
So yeah, there's that. So I done done my herbal films.

(37:08):
Might have. Might be good to me.
Yeah. Same question, do you hear Leo
about DT? DT What's?
The best advice you received from him?
Or the most important. Thing you learn being around him
so far. The best advice I got from him

(37:29):
was about a year and a half ago,he was maybe 6 months or so into
his 24 month run of dropping a project every month.
And I was, I had been in a arrayor kind of a standstill

(37:52):
creatively and professionally just kind of disconnected from
from all of this at that time. And I literally asked like how
the hell are you doing this? Like I was struggling to make
one song or to complete a song and he was doing it 10 plus
times over monthly. And I knew it by design.

(38:14):
His intent was to do it for a year at that time, but I was
like how you know how we work together and I, I put out maybe
6 projects and then 12 month span before.
So but just like at that time, Ithink I was even in that space.
We talked about the Andre 3000 interview with like what I rap
about like, you know, second guessing yourself.

(38:37):
And that led to the advice that he got.
And when I asked him and he was just like, because I asked in
the context. So like, I can't get out of my
own way. I want to do it, but I'm, you
know, to put the fire or the passion of it is just kind of
beyond me. And he told me that I was

(39:00):
thinking to him basically like to get out of my head about it
and whatever, whatever it is that, that I do is good enough.
Essentially like that. It's like something's better
than nothing. I, I don't, I can't quote the
advice, but the, the gist of it was just just be, just just do

(39:24):
like, like you got it. It was in his own way, it was
advice, but it also like gave mea kind of, I guess a, a boost of
confidence. And it was also like a lead by
example kind of thing, 'cause like I said, I was inspired and
moved by what he was doing to the point of I probably almost
like caught him to had a conversation.

(39:45):
But that, you know, seasons of the idea of like our connection.
Ain't we not just calling to do music or make music?
Over the time between Stepbrothers 3 and four, we
spent probably equal amounts of more time around each other away
from the music, You know what I'm saying?
We've been. Birthday parties and she was on

(40:06):
her way. Yeah, right.
And, and family events and and things like that.
Aside from, and obviously probably 100 shows as well.
But, you know, so that advice was like, hey, man, just, you
know, just just go for that fromthat conversation.

(40:27):
And I was like, I said somethingabout having writer's block.
He was like just that, right. About having writer's block,
like they'll want it. People want to hear it.
Like that's kind of that's on brand for you.
Whatever you're going through, just pour it into it.
And if it's one verse, he was like, because I play some music,
he was like, man, the stuff thatyou played in the studio, like

(40:50):
it's just perfect. And I was like that to me, it
felt incomplete. He was like, who's to say that
it's incomplete? You know, that's you're the only
one capable of saying that. But why?
Why do you look at it that way? Stop, go to the next thing.
And that that conversation was was like sound device and help
help me get back in gear. And since then, it's been kind

(41:13):
of a progressive, yeah. You've been killing it from from
there. To now like, you know, back
where I'm where I'm supposed to be and for like existing and my
purpose more so so I was. And does that fall into any of
the reasoning why there is a Step Brothers for 1/4
installment here? Was this done to kind of get you

(41:36):
back to getting that fire, that passion again for music or that
was just something coincidentally that ended up
happening down the road after you?
I think it was a. Byproduct of it wasn't.
Yeah, it wasn't. The IT wasn't the.
Purpose of it we always intendedof continuing the the series
this life life happened how it did and affected the timeline of

(42:00):
it. But but now personally, I didn't
feel like it was fair to what wehave built together to to do it
until I was dialed in and lockedin So it wasn't we're not doing
this to get to that point. It's like I feel about
relationships like a person should arrive whole and then

(42:22):
bring the most that they can bring to the table and not not
come into a relationship like, all right, I'm going to, I'm
going to do this to get myself together.
So now it's the opposite. I feel like my project, my solo
project I put out before this regretfully was confirmation
that I'm like where I need to belike artistically and otherwise

(42:42):
for us to deliver collectively. And I had to try to match energy
and and meeting where he was because he's obviously been, you
know, at the top of his game on the solo end.
So so now I don't, I don't thinkthis is that.
And Speaking of the series here,this is obviously the 4th
installment once again. But what is the plan with these

(43:06):
installments? Is there a possibility for 1/5?
A 6th? So on and so forth.
Of course, I think that's that'sand if it ain't broke, don't fix
it. We enjoy it.
And you mean same same for like you just said, we are, we

(43:26):
intended to do for a lot sooner than we than we did for life,
but life happened and as far as you know, 5 or so forth, however
it go, we just going with the flow.
You know when, when that time come and you know, we're going
to attack it the same way and give it everything we got.
But each time it'll be, it'll beorganic, it'll be genuine.

(43:51):
It'll never be a moment where wesit down and we force a step
brothers project because one, I think we love it too much and
two, I don't think either one ofus enjoy the idea of half assing
something so. And Speaking of these
installments, is this fan requested or is this something

(44:13):
you 2 just take upon yourself? You know what we should do?
A fourth installment or whateverinstallment it's.
Both, but it's definitely definitely fan request like I
like people don't even say hi tous half the time it's.
What's? Going on when Step brothers Ford
or right or people will assume like we ride around together all

(44:36):
day every day like as a one we not from different cities
originally or the I think our collective brand is bigger than
even the sum of the the parts. It's it's it's own thing that
that people have embraced as as a collective, but just the same

(44:59):
is something that we want to do is something is, is not just
appeasing a demand. It's it's something that we made
magic right away. And like, that's for sure.
It was game changing. It was life changing for me when
we did the first one. So like in honor of that, like

(45:22):
it's just, I kind of feel like we owe it to ourselves.
We owe it to one another to to keep it going.
And for those that are fans of yours in the audience here
watching, listening to this interview, they can see this
experience of you 2 together up close and personal in the form
of a tour as well. Yeah, Yeah.
We build, we're building that out now.

(45:43):
You know, we add new dates daily.
So, you know, we can't really, Icouldn't really say what cities
we're not in yet because you know, we ain't, we ain't done
putting it together. There are.
Some tour dates and cities already announced.
For those in the audience that want to find that information
and get further updates, where can they find that the?

(46:04):
Tour listing and ticket links for most of the dates on
groundhart.com. You can explore and navigate
from there. Our socials.
Mr. Don Trip. Yes.
Mr. Don trip on all the social sites and yeah, for Craig, it's

(46:25):
it's a few star. Lido ground on Instagram and
TikTok and Lido 615 on X yeah YouTube ground heart TV and for
those in the. Audience that keep hearing you
refer to Lido as Craig, can you explain that?

(46:46):
Because I've been calling him Lido, Star Lido, things of that
nature. But you've been saying Craig,
throughout the well. He's Craig.
Well, everybody's Craig technically, yeah, he don't you,
you don't know you Craig, but you create, we call you Craig
about three times. You just didn't catch that you
was being Craig. But he's Craig.
And if somebody knock on your door right now, we'll say Craig.

(47:07):
What Craig, what are you doing? But you know, everybody's Craig.
It's a it's an inside thing thatsomehow it came outside thing.
So. And.
For those in the audience also wondering, when it comes to the
phrase step brothers, is there an age gap between you 2 and and
how much of an age gap is so I? Think just a couple months.

(47:32):
No, you, you December 884, right?
Yeah. Yeah, so.
Almost a year, he'd say. It's not quite a year, but yeah,
OK, eight months is more than a couple months.
So it's either a couple months, 4 couples.
Oh, it's a year and it's not a couple months, so it's a year.

(47:55):
We're the same. Age for four months see out of
every year right And who is the?Oldest between you 2 at this
point. Craig and speaking.
Of possible future installments here speaking.
Of possible. Future installments here.

(48:17):
How many songs right now in thathard drive or laptop that you
referenced previously is there that exists of You 2 at this
point? There's 16 tracks on this
installment. Step Brothers for Life, but how
many unreleased? Currently just sitting there
tough waiting one. Yeah, I was going to say 17
total. Oh, well, one, my bad.

(48:38):
It was 17 -, 16. One well, you got a varsity that
we put out day after tomorrow, but that's that's from like.
Godspeed. Yes, it's.
It's super old, but other than. That just one we only.
Did one extra track, yeah. Even for solo music, I don't
have it. That one song is all I got as

(49:01):
far as me, as far as us. That's all I got.
That one record. And that's just the one record
that we decided not to put on the tape.
Yeah, we. We don't.
I'm pretty efficient in terms ofthe music.
We don't waste music. It's not a lot of throwaways.
And we don't. Yeah.
We don't hoard it either, right?Yeah, it's.

(49:24):
As evidenced by his output the last couple of years, he's
putting the music out. I've always proud of myself and
that the music don't really do anybody any good.
Sitting on a hard drive. Like you said, drive could crash
and it's lost. I mean, obviously we got clouds
and things like that now, but I never I never advocated for that
from even when I first started. I I think creating the music is

(49:51):
kind of a high AutoZone and releasing and sharing the music
is a is another like yeah, it's euphoric.
Yeah. And so you know, I'm making it
to get to the the next part of. And Speaking of future
installments, aside from the Stepbrother series, do want to
ask each of you these questions here because in all of your

(50:14):
catalogs of music, you do have other series and other
installments. And wondering for those in the
audience that are fans of You 2 individually here, are there any
plans for future installments? So like to start with you here
star Alito, since you spoke lastat war with myself too.
Was the last installment any plans for anything in the future
of just that series itself? Yeah, I plan on doing an At

(50:40):
Peace With Myself, which would be a continuation of that
series. I Wore Myself was originally
released in 2011. I think it was the project prior
to Step Brothers One. And then I Wore Myself Too,
dropped in 2018. And yeah, I'm I'm closer to a

(51:06):
headspace of like peace, inner, inner peace, more resolved,
almost a polar opposite of whereI was when I dropped that first
one. And I would consider that a part
of that series because it's justlike I said, progression of time
and evolution growth. I don't I hope to not have to
make another at war myself because I it's my, you know,

(51:30):
best slash worst enemy and I don't I don't want no problems
with that dude. Star Alito's way forward get out
Is there plans for 1/5? Damn, I guess now you putting it
out though. I won't say plans, but that's a.

(51:54):
Idea, yeah, that is. That's an idea, something I saw
like Lil Wayne driving the car to six.
So like, I feel like you find your your Hallmark series, maybe
that maybe that's the one because that that series kind of
starting my rebrand or renaming myself at a point in my career.

(52:16):
So yeah, perhaps I'm just I ain't been able to think too
much past the Step Brothers project has been my focus here
recently and and I'm just kind of on there.
But yeah, maybe so you probably just gave me something to put
them on on my vision board. And last question.

(52:36):
On this vision board there was 2projects, cold Turkey, fried
Turkey. I don't know if that was
considered a series of itself ora sequel to that.
Or is there any plans with right?
Cold cut Turkey, I'm pescatarian.
So so it's going to be it's going to it's a baked fish.
Nah, that was that was kind of was what?

(53:01):
What? I.
Did hot chicken and although it wasn't, I didn't look at that as
a series, I did consider it likeit was poultry and it had an
adjective before the poultry. So it it, it fit on some brand
of things, but they weren't likethat intentionally correlated or

(53:25):
connected. Same with call it Tarka and Fry.
Target is, is just, it was just me just being being me in terms
of Brandon, Call it Target was pronounced as a theme that has
to do with Target. It had to do with me
disconnecting and quitting, breaking, you know what I'm
saying? Some habits and and things and
trying to reformat it like musicis therapy.

(53:46):
A lot of times it's it's a meansfor me to try to set myself
straight and share that experience with the like minded
or people that it appealed to. So the the premise of that was
like, you need to quit bullshit and cold Turkey.
Like is, you know the song that we one of the songs we had
together on there. No reviews, difficult starting

(54:06):
over, but it's better than goingbackwards.
It's like so much soul searchingwithin my music or affirmations
or a lot of my music is made in the mirror.
Like stylistically I'm I'm talking to myself.
If it makes sense or resonates with you, that's a bonus.
But Kyle Tarki was that and thenthe success of it, because that

(54:28):
was the first project I did withEmpire Distribution.
It charted on Billboard. It far exceeded my expectations
for it. I was about to put it out for
free as a mixtape and that kind of changed the game for me.
Like professionally or you know,I was able to see my music had
more value in the commercial space than even I could have

(54:51):
imagined. And the Hustler me was like,
shit, it worked. I'm I'm coming back
Thanksgiving. I dropped cold Turkey right
around 4th of July. And we dropped Step Brothers
too, October. And before we finished Step
Brothers 2 and we're going on tour with Kevin Gates.
At the time I turned in fried Turkey.

(55:13):
I'm like when we get out this tour and you know, finish with
the immediate release of Step Brothers 2, I'm coming right
back with another solo project, Fried Turkey.
So it was titled that because I was dropping on Thanksgiving as
much as anything. It wasn't a true like sequel to
call a Turkey. I'm just like I said, hustling.

(55:35):
And a lot of times even with ourstuff, like when we just try to
make dope shit, we'll figure outwhat the collar lighter true.
So. And the hot chicken was a
Nashville centric project because that's Nashville high
chicken is gone global and it started on my side of town,
starting on East Nashville with Prince's Hotch and his favorite

(55:57):
restaurant actually. And.
So we had gone on a 43 city tourwith Star Brothers 3 and so many
places we went I'm seeing signs we had like little bar spots and
places that got Nashville high chicken like we in fucking
Oregon somewhere. And I'm like, damn, this shit is
everywhere. And it's like I said, it started

(56:19):
on UN drive, started down the street from where I'm from and
light bulb went off for like damn, we're taking this music
that started in East Nashville for me nationwide, just like the
this recipe, if you will, even though most places doing it
wrong and it's not really. And that is they just making

(56:43):
chicken as hot as it's more of abrine and a batter than a sauce.
But that was so I'm like, I wantto take this Nashville stuff.
I want to bring, I want to do almost a compilation style
project, which was big, you know, and in my like youth,
teenage, adolescent, I can remember several compilations

(57:04):
that was like I got put on a different artist because I
wanted to hear Master P but he had 15 artists on his
compilation. I remember like down South
Hustlers, several we was talkingabout the Blackout Squad
project, Rough Riders compilation, Yeah, things like

(57:24):
that. So I was doing hot chicken as
Nashville centric project. I had like over 10 Nashville
artists featured on that projectand saw it again.
Cold Turkey, fried Turkey and hot chicken.
Not so much a series, but yeah. Got it.
And answering questions here forthe fans that might not knew if

(57:48):
that was a series or not and so on and so forth.
On this vision board of your own, Don Tripp wanted to ask you
about these three items here. The last installment was
Christopher Season 4. Any plans?
For more 1 I don't have a visionboard 2 I don't know, I I don't
think that far ahead when it comes to the art.

(58:11):
I just let it whatever happens, happen.
I'm not guess it would be more the most contingent on me having
another picture of me and my brother from my childhood.
That would probably be the most you know.
It will probably depend the moston that.

(58:33):
In the meantime too, that was the last installment there.
Where in the hell? Was that?
I can look that information up very quickly here in the
meantime too. 2016. Well, I don't know that.

(59:01):
Would be tricky. You know, I, I wouldn't want to
weigh the risk of doing a 1/3 installment considering how many
new people have have, you know, tagged along since since 2016.
I wouldn't want you to feel likeyou're out the loop.

(59:22):
You know, you're in the meantime3 and you just heard of me last
week and you're like, what the hell is the worst one?
And two, I never knew these existed, so probably not from
2016. Yeah, probably wouldn't continue
something from that that far back.
And. Probably gauging that answer

(59:42):
with this next question, but Terminator 2.
Oh no, it won't be a Terminator 3 because I didn't like
Terminator 3 the movie. So probably not.
Probably not a Terminator 3. All right.
Wrapping up the questions here with you 2 gentlemen, I do want

(01:00:06):
to ask you this, Leo. This is something that you
mentioned during the conversation.
And I was like, you always want to be a part of a group and
things of that nature. And of course, you are one here.
If duos are considered groups, Idon't know sometimes.
Some people look at it as a group.
Some people just put it in the duo category, but we have 6
parts. In all of it.
So it's it's a. 3A piece but speaking 6 of people 4-5 O 10

(01:00:34):
shit. Speaking on the.
Subject of duos alone. If there was a Mount Rushmore of
rap duos, which four would all of you choose and why?
That's 8. Motherfuckers, that's a big
Jesus. That's that's Mount Rushmore rap
duos. Yes, rap duos.

(01:00:54):
So limited. To the two Man Group.
Yep, 2 main route. 4 of. Them though his.
Four and my 4 we can do. That separately or if there's a
cooperative effort here for yeah, we do it.
Separate, I mean, because I'm sure.
Yeah, I'm. Sorry we got different
favorites. OK?

(01:01:15):
Damn man. They went into four as well as a
child. Yeah, that's.
Tough that's more rat. It is 2 man, I got to say I got
to say run DMC, even though it'syou were technically 3 but Jam
Master Jay didn't say a word. So I got to say run DMCI think

(01:01:39):
the style that we that we embrace the most.
I don't know what they call it, but the back and forth shit, I
think I think they were the trueoriginators of that.
I'm not sure if they were. If I'm wrong, I really don't
give a fuck. They first first people I had
ever heard do it. Even you know, going back.

(01:02:02):
I I never heard it before them. So I got to say run DMC two
man's man. I got to say 8 ball MJG.
They shit, they I probably wouldn't exist with all the 8
ball MGG coming from, you know, coming from Memphis.
They they paved the way, they broke down, they broke down

(01:02:24):
barriers. That's 2.
Shit 2. Man's I don't want to take all
the good ones, no. Do your time bro, I got to say.
Outkast Outkast gave me the, they gave me the, the, the, the,

(01:02:49):
the, the notion that I could be different.
I had to be as different as 103,000, but it let me know you
could, you know, I don't have toblend in.
I can be who I am and I can, youknow, as long as you know, long
as I, I keep my, my swords sharpand I can, you know, I can do
just about anything. You don't much matter if you

(01:03:12):
know if I'm a like another person or not.
Why that's three shit. My 4th 1.
Mount Rushmore of rap duos. My 4th 1 and doesn't.
Have to be a true duo in essence.
It could be something similar like you 2.
I have a. Brand Together.

(01:03:34):
I. Don't have to say styles and
jadekiss, even though again the locks is a group.
Same same deal styles and Jadekiss.
I think that although run Dmci feel like they're the
originators of it, I think Styles and Jada Kitts do it the
best with the back and forth. I again, I don't know what what

(01:03:57):
you call that, but I think they do the back and forth thing the
best of of you know, of of all the the people I've ever heard
do it. And if anything, that would,
that would be where I, I know where I drew the most
inspiration from when it comes to that.
So I guess that would be my fault.

(01:04:19):
Well, I'm on assume that we takeourselves out of the
conversation because I would I would include us and then in
conversation with two two personhow I can do rap duos but
excluding us. I'm going to go with UGK outcast

(01:04:40):
as as he listed boosie and web and man, it's tough, but like
limited to four cuz I have 5 kind of right there.
But a by MJG is for sure pioneers and legendary.

(01:05:07):
True, and I think they belong toany of those conversations.
But the honorable mention just cuz I just feel like it's it's I
feel remiss to not including would be the clips that would
have been my 5th or honorable mention.
And just because we named two ofthe same groups, I kind of like
just wanted to include someone else.

(01:05:29):
But for for all of those. I feel the same way he does
about styles of kids. They just never dropped a
project with just the two of them that I remember.
So I look at them more as 2/3 ofthe locks, but what they do in
tandem is like off the charts and another level.
I probably not in taking nothingaway from Chic loose because I

(01:05:52):
like the the locks as a collective.
Even the verses reminded you of the synergy and and I think that
a great rap Chic was the 1st. One I was introduced to,
actually. Well, musically.
It was the first one I was introduced to.
But yeah, everybody else had hadprojects.
I wish boosting web had a littlebit more or had kept it going
collectively. But yeah, they of our

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generation, the closest age wise, I I guess the clips came
out at the the time that I was starting to rap.
So the rest of the the groups that I know and I like, I look
at it as pioneers or in the round room.
I was like uncles true to what I'm saying, legacy artist that

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definitely guy was something aspired or now.
Final question here about this body of work.
Can you give the? Audience 5 reasons to listen to
Step Brothers for. Life let's.
I, I generally say 5 reasons, but because this is 1/4

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installment, we'll do 4 reasons.Can you give 4 reasons for those
in the audience to listen to Step Brothers for Life?
All right. I'll give you, I'll give you 2,
you give 2 authenticity. I think this day and age that's
rare to find and not to pat. I guess I can still pat him on

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the back, I guess. But you know, I I think I think
we are the epitome. That's that's yeah, we didn't
epitome of authenticity and. Well, we can talk times and get
your time. Yeah, that's the other reason.

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It's the craftsmanship, like lyrically it's it is very
artistic, like we're making records about things, specific
things. And I think it's the attention
of detail, like word for word, bar for bar is I mentioned it is

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like a breath of fresh air is I think something to take away,
something you just not going to just get anywhere.
You know, it's not easy to find these days.
And music. So yeah, craftsmanship, I say.
Relatability way that it's relatable.

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You know, we didn't, we didn't make it up.
We just not, you know, if we didn't make it up, we didn't put
glitter on. It's not shiny.
You know, we like I said, I guess they kind of correlate to
the, the, the honesty in it. Well, you know, we, we're giving
our truths and, and most cases, you know, it's, it's, you know,

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it's y'all truth too. We just happen to be the the
spokes spokespeople, spokespersons, so to speak.
So you know, I would say. That nostalgia that would be my
other selling point or or bulletin point of it to it's a

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trip down memory line, as they say of sorts.
There's there's a lot there, like if you from our generation
and it'll probably like hit close to home.
Like there's literally a song called Mitchell in this, which
is a nostalgic brand or memorabilia brand.
But we, we have a record called Origins that tells our origin

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story. So you'll rewind the times with
us there. Like very literally, there's a,
a record butterfly effect. When we speak, we're speaking to
our younger selves. And so I think it's, it's
important to reflect a lot of times and, and for where we are

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now, like it's very much present, but it comes with
acknowledgement of, of our journey and what got us here.
And there's a, a wrestling centric record on the project
that, you know, revisits, I guess childhood in large part

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for us, because most of those references are, are really
dated. You know, it, it leans into like
90s and probably maybe early 2000s wrestling situations and
whatnot. So yeah, nostalgia, I think
that's something that unique as well.
If you want to share the. Title of that song for reference
for those. Oh.

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Royal Rumble now asked you 4 reasons.
Just to commemorate the 4th installment, but if there's any
bonus reasons you want to add, feel free here too.
Don't want to stop you from. I give you the 5th.
It's it's beautiful art that's very well.

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Asked you a variety. Of questions here about this
body of work and also YouTube personally.
Is there anything else in regards to this project you'd
like to add that wasn't asked oranything else you want to chime
in in regards to this project, the brand, the tour, things of
that nature here with personal project, solo efforts I I.
Would just like to acknowledge some people.

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So sorry, I don't know Willie, last name Robinson, Willie
Robinson. He's he's, I'm going to call him
a director because that's the hat that I initially met him.
That's the hat he was wearing when I met him.

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But he's much more he's he's, you know, he's a lot more
involved than just in videos. But he'd been, you know, he'd
been a part of this journey every step of the way and, and
he hold his weight. It ain't, you know, and in real
life we would probably be the step family, so to speak.

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Kevin, Kevin Zuli yard is usually they've been our
engineer individually and as a tandem since like 2010, I think
2011 for you. Yes, I started.
Working with the Step Brothers one and he's mixed every song
that you heard from me since then.
Yeah, he. Mixed and and it's just man if.
If there is 100 songs, he's probably recorded about 70 of

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them too. But again, that's another person
who's been hands on. He's been involved every step of
the way. And as we've grown as artists,
as as our sound has as elevated and grown, grown with us, he's
just is equally responsible for that as as we are.
He actually produced. Yeah, he did.

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He did. Yeah.
So. Survived from just mixing
engineer to He's actually got a production credit, yeah.
I. Think just the same.
Shout out to all the producers involved.
Hope not to leave anybody else. Logan Garrett.
For before we get too far in same deal I I don't know what

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the hell you would consider Logan to be, but Logan's been
involved every step of the way. The same maybe since the same
since 20 when I think I met Logan when I'm, you know, from
you. I think I want to say early on,
but I'm not sure my timelines are horrible, but Logan's been a

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part of the fold for for quite some time as well.
And you know, same deal. He he's he's there, he's more
than than eager to contribute and help move things along with
a lot of the pieces to this from, you know, from step
brothers one to, you know, to for life to just about

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everything in between that too so.
Yeah, and care to? Share the title, the song that
William got a chance to get thatproduction credit.
Oh it. Was it was Kevin, Kevin, Kevin
Zips? I don't know.
He produced schadenfreude. Yeah, he also.
Co produced Royal Rumble Royal Rumble with I got a Co

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production credit that he told me that.
He was in on the beam show if I was going.
To use my real name or it's just?
It was produced the name. Yeah, exactly.
Be the baby legend. Apologies.
There on the Yeah, that's all. Good.

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No, that's all good. You know shit happens.
Anything. Else in regards to this body of
work. Here, it's for life.
Yeah, I was. I was trying to remember I I
didn't want to leave anybody else on the producers band play.
Like I said, Zips. Sapphire, Sapphire.

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Sapphire. Sapphire Zach.
Feazy red on the. Beat Red on the beat.
Drummer boy. Touch, I think Touch and Zach
Fiji. Yes, yeah.
Touch Turbo. Yeah.
Baby legend, Yeah. Yeah, that part DJ Chill.

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Yeah, definitely DJ. Chill man.
I'm about to Smokey Hendrix and Nokio and the colleagues and
Robin. Raynell featuring Robin.
Raynell featuring Judah the Lions, 2 vocalists that

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contributed. Interesting to note, we've never
had a a rapping feature out of these four projects, so the only
features we've had have been like melodic additions vocally.
Only rapper that that was featured was Kevin Gates and it
was like a singing hook. Leash on life, yeah, but past

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that we just pride ourselves andand bringing enough other bars
and ain't enough. It ain't room for for nobody
else like them, you know, Got more room for activities.
Have you had other reporting artists say, hey, let us in on
any of these installments? Of course reply.
To that. How do you respond?

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To this hell no. I mean, I, when it's me, I
explained to them what this brand is and you know, I don't
think even they would have wouldhave held it in such high regard
had we open the door for company.
So, you know, for the, for the most part, I think they get it.

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And I think again, I think that's why it's prestigious
enough for you to want to be involved.
I think everybody wants to be that rapper that they got a
verse on the Step Brothers Project.
You know that ain't going to happen.
No. If so, well, I'm a gut you.

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No, but it's, it's, it's a it's quite a few artists there, like
both of us rock with. And for sure like we, we
collaborate with, we collaborateother artists, just not a part
of this thing. Yeah, this, this thing about us,
if that makes sense. So it's not not partial or

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excluding anybody, we're excluding everybody.
We're not being. Antisocial, but we are in that
regard, you know.