XanMan On Sauce Walka, YungManny, Q Da Fool, Brent Faiyaz, Big Boogie, Girlhefunny1 (Full Interview)

Landover, MD born/raised recording artist, XanMan, sits down with DJ Smallz for over 82 minutes, opening up about his past amongst a variety of topics. This interview was filmed on 7/24/25.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Now, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song?
Ad libs is one of the most I sayimportant factors game.
So on the ad libs it's importanteverybody got a signature ad
Lib, something that they know you buy when you about to go in,
you know what I'm saying and just let it happen natural.

(00:20):
You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, shoot, it came from
like me back then, you know, theperson who I was back then.
So you know, like and then it was Gunu with a auntie, you
know, so it's just like all coordinated, you know what I'm
saying? But like facts, I feel like ad
Lib is very important. Like it's very important that on

(00:41):
my songs I damn near make a a separate song with ad libs, you
know what I'm saying? So now what about when it comes
to collaborating with other recording artists which you've
done in your music career? Have you added your ad libs to
another artist verse on the samesong?
Yeah, a song with that I have with me and Big Boogie, so yeah.

(01:05):
And do you recall the name of that song?
It's called Bounce. It's not out yet.
Now, when it comes to that song in particular, how did it become
you adding your ad libs to another artist verse?
Is that something you would voluntarily do?
Is that something that's talked amongst yourself?
It's just something that happened natural when you in the
studio working, bro, you can be feeling like no ad libs at all

(01:26):
on certain songs, you know what I'm saying?
So like, yeah. Now a little bit of different
twist here with this next question, but what are your
thoughts on songs with another artist Ad libs but no hook or
verse from them on that song. It's just their ad libs
sprinkled throughout the track. I.
Feel like there's a lick? You got to think about it.

(01:47):
It's been songs that like, what's that song by Childish
Gambino, right? This is America and he got
everybody on there. Earthquake, Tyler, the Creator,
he got everybody on here, you know what I'm saying?
And they don't. They're featured in the credits,
you know what I'm saying? But not directly on the songs.
So and there's so many artists on there for real.
You hear Cardi, you hear you know, they're not in a video or

(02:08):
nothing. It's certain songs that you can
hear like Rick Ross ad libs or the DJ Khaled we the best
throughout the song, you know what I'm saying?
Little motivational speeches. Like it goes into the same thing
with videos. I feel like we should bring
cameos back. Like when a big artist or a big
homie fun with somebody, they going hop in a video how Birdman
used to rub his hands. You know what I'm saying?
Shit like that to bring real hiphop that.

(02:30):
Now Speaking of this subject matter, before we dive deeper,
have you been requested just foryour ad libs on a song but no
hook or verse? Or have you requested others ad
libs but no hook or verse from them?
No. No.
But sounds like that would be something you would be open to
in the future. Hell yeah, yeah.
Now, Speaking of cameos, you said to the audience that this

(02:51):
is something you'd like to see happen again in rap.
Have you taken upon yourself to start this wave again, or is
that something you want to do inthe future yourself?
Or is it just something you're just putting in the universe for
others to hear and maybe start as well?
Repeat that. When it comes to cameos, you
mentioned something like we should bring cameos back where
maybe they're not in the credits, but they show up as a

(03:14):
surprise in a music video. So because you want this trend
to happen again or this wave, have you started?
Have you taken it upon yourself to maybe start this yourself or?
I mean it depend on who it is, you know, they got to be at a
certain stature. You know, they can't be artists
on the same level as me. It will look cool to the outside
people name like oh, they messed, you know what I'm
saying? He messed with XYZ or he be with

(03:35):
this person or they cool they going to collapse.
So so it's just, you know, little bit teasing spreading
hidden here and there. But I'm not like reaching out
like a Drake bell hopping the video.
No, we're not doing it. Why not?
For what if I'm not cool with them, You know what I'm saying?
Like that's the same reason why I never paid for a feature.

(03:58):
You know what I'm saying? I've never paid for a feature
because you know what? Say if that's your biggest song,
like a song that I got with cash, I got songs with Skriller,
Tommy Richmond, everybody in thegame, right?
And the reason why did I never pay for a feature?
Maybe on the business side, likewhen it comes to labels, like I
get them right with the publishing, the splits and
everything. But bro, if it's natural, it's
natural. I'm not trying to you know, same

(04:22):
reason why I don't pay for features game because when if
your song blow up, say if that'sthe biggest song, right, you pay
whatever artist, let's just say 100,000.
You think if that become your biggest song, it'll matter if
it's a platinum hit, if it wasn't natural, if I'm in his
city and I'm performing, he not popping up to my show for free

(04:42):
to perform that song. Not natural.
You know what I'm saying? Now we see me as business.
You don't see me as a, you know what I'm saying, Like us
building or whatever, be like, hey, if you want to continue,
you got to continue to pay. So Nah, I'm not.
I'm not with that. Now this is a debate.
There are some recording artiststhat have no problem paying for

(05:02):
features. There are some that don't, like
you said. It depends.
That's why I say it depends on, like I said, me personally, I
wouldn't, you know what I'm saying?
Like that's just me. But in the future, like hell
yeah, if I need future, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like those type of requests, like, you know, to hop on my

(05:24):
songs, like those legends, people who really been in a game
for hat for 10-11 years straight, you know, we know who
those ones are as as many of them.
You feel me like the even from the pop side and Lady Gaga, the
the Akons, whatever. Like yeah, hell yeah.
In the future, definitely. And and I also know in the
industry business, it you never mix your business so personal,

(05:47):
you know what I'm saying? So it's just like this, say if a
artist pay for a feature, you don't take it personal.
That can still be your dog, don't get me wrong.
But it's just like, hey, you payme, and when I need you, I'm
going to pay you. You know what I'm saying?
It can go like that too. You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's cool. Now, I have interviewed someone

(06:08):
before where they paid someone for a feature and it led to a
personal relationship. So it started out as business
and then it became personal to the point where they end up
signing under that artist and breaking money together, so to
speak. Yeah, I seen.
I seen Salz Walker do it. You know what I'm saying?
Like that's a prime example. That's my brother.

(06:29):
You know what I'm saying? So definitely, so I definitely
seen him do that a lot of times and really build for artists
like he he known for that. Like he put a lot of people on
behind it, bro. So not here, not he he legit
when it comes to that. And that was more or less who I
had in mind. Speaking of him, actually I had
interviewed Peso Peso and if memory serves me correct, our

(06:51):
discussion was he paid Sauce fora feature and it ended up
becoming, he was part of the sauce factory at that point.
And Peso really worked hard for that too.
Shout out Peso. At some point, I said at that
point, but yeah, at some point he becomes a part of that and
look how far he's gotten with that relationship and things of
that nature. Started out as business first
though. And what about on the opposite

(07:13):
end of the spectrum? OK, you know up until this point
in your music career you've never paid for feature, but it
sounds like you're not closed tothat in the future.
But what about on the opposite end of the spectrum?
As mentioned previously, do you accept payments for features?
People that want to get a feature from you?
No, not anymore. You know what I'm saying?

(07:34):
Like I feel like in the past, you know what I'm saying?
I kind of watered down the market by showing love to a lot
of artists, bro, so I don't really be doing features no more
unless it really makes sense unless I do plan on building
with the artists and keeping a long relationship with them.
I definitely learned that from walk.
So you know, I it's not about the money for me, it's about if

(07:57):
I believe in a person vision. So if I'm even responding to you
in D Ms. bro, just know that I like I see something in the in
the you feel me, because I got especially now, you know, I'm
saying with my everything going in my life, my manager,
everything, you know, coming together now again.
So it's definitely like Nah unless it made complete sense.

(08:21):
And you mentioned something along the lines of here of, and
I can't remember the words exactly you just said, but
something along the lines of everything's coming together
again. My manager or my new manager,
whatever the case may be. Can you explain to the audience
what the break or hiccup was there?
That's the reason why I got a album called In the Way of
Myself that's coming because I'mmy biggest enemy.

(08:46):
But isn't everybody, you know what I'm saying?
We are we all, all our, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like our biggest critics, you know what I'm saying?
So it's just like, yeah, we all our biggest critic, bro.
So whatever, at the end of the day, we get the final say so
about ourselves, we get the final decision.
So we all our biggest critics and we can and we all had a

(09:08):
moment where we felt so right about something we'd be wrong,
you know what I'm saying? So what happened with everybody,
bro? So I just feel like it's
something that people can relateto.
Now when it comes to the music, I'm not going to say that the
music don't match up with the title, but I'm talking a lot
about females. I got a lot of trap songs on
there too. But you know, because like

(09:30):
females are like the, you know, woman period.
They the biggest support system of you know what I'm saying, The
music. I feel I never seen a man, you
know, say, yeah, I'm about to goto this Beyoncé, you know what
I'm saying? Concert.
He would say that I'm going withmy girl to a Beyoncé concert or
it's bitches at the Beyoncé concert.

(09:50):
So I'm about to go there with the gang.
You know what I'm saying? Whatever.
But females is the the woman is the one who buying the front row
tickets. You know what I'm saying?
You know who getting that merch,who really supporting, So I'm
like shout out to them like gangto like the the *** like the
males like they started. You know what I'm saying?
They start the wave so the females can catch on too,

(10:12):
because they don't want to startmaking the Tik Toks female.
The women don't like to support.You know what I'm saying?
I feel until a guy's already on you feel me until they hear
other *** listening to them and then they take over the market
that way. How I feel, because when you
think about it, some of the hottest artists in the game
right now and that's what they talk about.

(10:33):
You got the inner league chop, you got honcho, you got raw
wave. You know everybody, Lil Dirk
even you know what I'm saying? He switch it up.
He wanted the greatest YB. You know, we got so many people
coming out with these hits, evenlike smaller artists from, you
know, artists who coming up fromNorth Carolina to a area where,
you know, YTB fat even he be talking about, you know, like

(10:58):
the woman shit like that spoiling shop and they love to
feel good. Cash, cash for sure, for sure.
Like, yeah, so that's what really matters nowadays.
Gang is just really grabbing thecrowd and never keep yourself in
one space. Never.
Now, Speaking of this title for this upcoming project you just
mentioned, was this a title thatyou coined yourself or someone

(11:21):
coined for you? I coined it myself and that's
why I was saying what goes back to your question about the me
having a manager and a new team and everything because me making
X amount of dollars a month, little private jet.
You know what I'm saying? Gang flying out Miami doing all
of that for weeks at a time, bro.

(11:43):
It got tedious. And I thought that I was doing
something because I'm still living a lifestyle of a, you
know what I'm saying as a rapperthat's just coming into game
into the game with $1,000,000 deal and I've been in the game
for 6-7 years. You know what I'm saying?
I'm 24. So it's just like I, I thought I
was doing something, but to the to the, to the people, it's just
like I had to convince them thatI was serious again.

(12:05):
And it took my manager to, you know, help me to clean my
business up as far as, you know,landed all on a line like
straight up like previously withlabels and everything like that.
But you know, like showing up late, you know, thinking that I
was bigger than the program and nobody is, you know what I'm
saying. So I feel like that I was in the

(12:26):
way of myself at the time beforeI like decided to lock in again
and consistently drop in the show these folks because and and
when it comes to business, I probably like did everything
which way bad, you know what I'msaying, when it comes to
personal and business gang. So I probably did everything
which way bad, bro, but not be here.
My talent kept me afloat all of these years.

(12:47):
You feel me? So now that I got the business
back straight, it ain't nothing going on.
I'm not, you know what I'm saying, doing the same shit that
I used to do and I'm and now I got more money than I ever had.
You know, the business that comein the corporate, you know what
I'm saying? Like everything together now so.
Now let's break this this idea down a little bit further

(13:09):
because it was this a self recognization.
Do you catch yourself and, and and right your wrongs?
Or does someone pull you to the side and say, Hey, we need to
switch up what's going on? Because this trajectory that
seems to follow could be a wrongpath and maybe a never coming
back path. Sometimes I be, you know what

(13:30):
I'm saying. A lot of the times I am
conscious of what I'm doing and it's a lot of shit that I don't
mean no harm by, you know what I'm saying?
Because we all human, bro. I got emotions just like you,
you know what I'm saying? It's like everybody else, bro.
So yeah, facts like. And asking here because this is

(13:53):
a serious subject, because we'veall seen the headlines of an
artist go the wrong way and never recover from that.
They crash, they burn, never heard from again.
And then we've heard stories where something of your your
nature here, where you get caught going down the wrong
path, you fix yourself and you're back onto a path of.

(14:14):
Like I said, it took people in my life to tell me that I needed
to lock in like family, like my cousin would, you know what I'm
saying? Like press elite, you know what
I'm saying? My mom even just to be like,
hey, lock in, you know what I'm saying?
It's your time. Like you don't have no more time

(14:36):
to waste just because I got too caught up in the money that I
was getting that I'm getting bro.
So it's just like, and there's more now and I'm still at a more
and I'm more level headed because I know what to do now,
you feel me? So it's just like back then I
didn't. I'm just thinking shit, make 20K
one week, make 15 the next, make100K in a month and walk off

(15:03):
with 10,000 in my pocket 'cause I got another 100 coming to me
soon. It's cool.
Label going to reach out. This shit cool Got Talent, you
know what I'm saying? My manager bought me down those
people, they bought me down the realization like gang lock in,
you can drop the ball. Once I start seeing the numbers.
It wasn't no Jurassic dip or nothing.
You know what I'm saying? Like I said, it always stayed in

(15:25):
line. I'm still doing like 700,000 a
week, 800,000 a week, stuff likethat.
But it's still now it's Spike. You know what I'm saying?
Cuz I convinced the people that,you know, serious again, that
did for them, that I'm dropping the music for them, that I want
them to hear what I got and theysupport that too.

(15:45):
So and. Why do you think your number
stayed the same? Because there are some that go
down that wrong path or that wrong way or that wrong
trajectory, and their numbers actually dip with that
trajectory. And that's not only are they on
a bad path, but their numbers are so bad.
Even if they tried to get on theright path, it would be so much
harder for them to do so becausethey didn't have that that
constant, those constant numbersstill keeping them.

(16:07):
Afloat so with me, I still try to.
I was still consistent more thanmost, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't thinking that was bigger than the program when it
came to dropping. When it still dropped, I still
promoted it with my life. I never did any playlisting with
no labels or anything like that.So I like to keep my budget and
or you know what I'm saying, like get reimbursed from what I
spend my money on. But as far as that game, like,

(16:31):
Nah, I really don't like yeah, Idon't know, bro.
And let me also ask you something of this nature too,
because you mentioned, like I believe you said your mom and
some other people like Prez and things of that nature kind of
pulled you to the side, say hey.He pulled me out the water, bro,

(16:54):
I ain't going to hold you like I'm not, don't get me wrong.
Like it was never financially, it was always the business, you
feel me? And that's where it matters at,
especially in the industry of entertainment game, you feel me?
I got the only thing that kept me afloat, like I said, was
really my talent gang. And I was still consistent more

(17:15):
than most. And when I did drop, I was still
I just started using TikTok for this year.
So I was still doing all of those things where like I think
because it has a part to do not only with the talent, but I was
still living a lifestyle. A lot of them, the money fall

(17:36):
with the numbers. Like that didn't happen for me,
you feel me? So because of the songs that I
was making and the tapes that I was still dropping, still was
going, you know, top 100 I'm talking about with no
management, no team behind you at all game, you still going top
100, top 50 on Apple. That says something when you
only got IG and YouTube, you know what I'm saying?

(17:57):
Now just to break here in the conversation for a second, for
those in the audience getting toknow you for the very first
time, maybe they've seen your name before, but now they're
getting a chance to really get into your perspective through
this interview and get to know you here a little bit more
personally. Care to share your screen names,
your usernames, your handles on IG, TikTok and YouTube?

(18:19):
OK, so Instagram is an serving. That's XNSERVIN you know what
I'm saying? YouTube examine and TikTok is 1
Zen serving so it's the same as that IG with the number one in
front of it. Something funny.
It took my name. And asking you for these names

(18:42):
here because there could be somefraudulent profiles representing
you. Scammy profiles.
No, not really. Not really.
I got my Twitter hack before, but like I said, bro, after that
I had to give probably around like I say around six to seven
grand back out the fans after that happened to me, you know

(19:04):
what I'm saying on my Twitter and it was going on for a long
time. I had to post it on my story
everyday. If you a real supporter, you
know, you know, I was posting onmy story everyday.
Please don't tap in with my Twitter.
I had like 40,000 followers. So you know what I'm saying?
That's a lot for Twitter. You know what I mean?
But yeah, I don't, I don't be onthat fool.
So as far as TikTok, I'm excuse me, Twitter is concerned also

(19:27):
now known as X. Are you on that platform at all?
Does that profile? Yeah, it's one.
I think it's one. Hey, shoot, like one.
Hey, shoot. Yeah, that's my Twitter.
I'll be going viral in there too.
Like just tweets that I'll be coming to mind.
He's saying random shit. And can you spell that out as
well? The number one then HEYSHOOT.

(19:51):
And does the was that profile there on Twitter and also known
as X, was that the previously hacked profile or was the hacked
profile something else? It was too much damage done.
So when I was with Atlantic, once I got once I got my Twitter
back, it took them about probably like 4 weeks because it
was near Christmas time. You know, they go in a big

(20:12):
breaks and all of that stuff everybody does.
But when I was with the label atthe time, after we got it back,
it was so much damage done. I sent back all of the money and
deleted it because I couldn't even get everybody.
I'm going to be real like, you know, because I don't like that.
I would never like me personallylike especially if I have more
than them gang. I never take money out of they

(20:34):
mouth that they can be used in the feed their family with you
know what I'm saying? I don't roll like that.
And plus if I had more than them, like why would I risk
that? You know what I'm saying?
They can spend 20 bucks to see me at the show and shit go down
and click out whatever, you knowwhat I'm saying.
So I don't think that is it's worth all of that game.
I'd rather just send a nigga's money back and move on before I
go ahead and take money and he can have kids anything.

(20:56):
He probably thought that I was his last song.
We hope to get a you know what I'm saying a song with me.
I can't roll like that, you know?
So just for clarification that that hacked Twitter profile.
Is gone. OK, Yeah.
And so you started brand new allover again with the Hey Shoot.
Yeah, the one. Hey, shoot, at first it was one

(21:16):
Zen serving again, but I got it.That one got deleted too, but
that's because I made a crazy quote.
I said something crazy on there to somebody and like, Elon had
to do that to me, bro. I, I yeah, it was a quote and
the tweet was blowing up, but itwas just too, too harsh.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Even I had to do that to me.

(21:40):
And as far as deals, record deals, where are you currently
at this point with that? The independent money different.
I can't hold you like I love it gang.
Like the independent money different, but I'm a free agent
and I got a especially now I have a lot of offers on the
table. I do I have about like 4 to 5

(22:06):
deals on the table right now, like currently today, but like a
year is going to keep on going up and and only thing that was
going to increase is the offers and the numbers.
So yeah, I'm a free agent now. And these are major deals on the
table, independent deals on the table, major artist trying to
sign you. I got about, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(22:28):
all of the above. So I was talking to so many
labels and they all reached out to me.
You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I love what you doing.
And then, you know, the numbers just won't keep increasing.
I have about like two major labels right now and I have

(22:49):
about, I got 3 independent labels, so about like 5 artist
wise. It was, you know, I was talking
to Tato, you know what I'm saying about, you know, Glow
gang, you know what I'm saying? He say he wanted to sign me
because he asked me if I was signed.
It's a couple of artists, you know, but couple of artists I

(23:11):
was supposed to do some shit with, you know Meek fuck with
me. You know, I talk to tweet all
the time, like man, like tweet, call me all the time.
That's my boy like man, why you not DC yet?
You know what I'm saying? But I still keep that
relationship with them. You know what I'm saying?
I go around, they always show love.
I was signed a sauce Walker, youknow what I'm saying?

(23:31):
That's still family to this day,1,000,000% you know what I'm
saying? So he showed me the way with
this independent shit like I feel man, I feel so good.
It's the most it's the best I felt since 2019 game.
But I'm not going to lie. What happened with that deal?
What you and Sauce? Nothing happened with the deal,

(23:53):
it's just that me being around that, you know what I'm saying?
For so long. I stayed with him for like 2
years almost bro, you know what I'm saying?
I'm talking about N the H like alive you feel me?
So it's just like I started to be like who I who I was around.

(24:14):
You know what I'm saying? Like I got to get my I got to
get my shit together because shit ain't going to make me go
up more. It give me a little bit of a
name. Trust me, man, Houston,
everything in the H, you know what I'm saying, went up for me.
But I can't do that. That's my that's my brother and
that's my dog. It was never if I call him right
now and be like, Hey, I'm comingback.

(24:38):
I'm going to give you a album. I'm going to give you some
singles TSF back in my bio. I'm here tomorrow.
You know what I'm saying? My brother won't come to me with
open arms and I'm like, I'm ready to lock in this time.
It's a lot of things that I did back then that we have no
disagreements on or nothing likethat.
Or he wasn't, but he's giving mean understanding.
You feel me back then. I look at it as he getting on
me, but he is just giving me an understanding about this

(24:59):
industry shit. And now I know because it
worked. So yeah.
But it is never no problem 1,000,000% never.
No problem with what? Always show love.
Always make sure I'm straight. Real *** Now in regards to your
music catalog, I do want to honein on that for a few minutes
here and ask you a few questionsabout that as well.

(25:19):
When it comes to your other projects, your other bodies of
work before this upcoming project you just mentioned is
going to drop, wanted to see if there were any updates on your
previous works. OK, so let's start with this.
Now you have a variety of volumes, a variety of Series, A
variety of installments to certain brand names under your

(25:41):
artistry. Wanted to see if there were any
future plans on going further with any of those series
starting with like Tony 6. You brought up a real good one
bro. I didn't know that you were
going to say like Tony. Like Tony is where it all
started. That's where I got my 1st 200

(26:01):
streams at. Shit.
I know I'm a little bit off topic but I'm going to get back
to your question. But bro, consistency is key, you
know what I'm saying? I got 6 like Tony's, I got about
like 4. I got like 2 Haiti shooters.

(26:21):
I got like fours answer. I got a lot of them right.
But I feel like it watered down now.
I feel like it don't hit the same for the people, bro, when
you do a Part 2, I feel like youbring those old core fan bases
back. But to grab somebody else and to
be a Part 2, it might be somebody who not who haven't
heard of me, you know what I'm saying?
So I like to grab new to maintain the old.

(26:42):
As soon as somebody hear my music, they you know what I'm
saying, the supporter of me, youknow what I'm saying, Even if
it's not to your liking or your taste, you know I, I don't, you
know, but have I been told I really don't have a bad song,
even if it's not the viable taste, you feel me?
It ain't garbage. So, so being the fact that you
just mentioned you like to startoff with new names, are are

(27:04):
there any plans to go back to your previous series and have
new installments or volumes to any of them?
I have your list here of these different series if you want me
to go 1 by 1, unless you want tojust kind of answer the question
generally speaking. I think I know I can name
probably all of my every single one of my 300 songs damn near

(27:25):
since 2016. Like album by album.
Like I remember him from high school.
Like album by album. I can probably name you the
songs, but I say you got Hey Shoot, you got like Tony series,
you got the Zan Servant series, you got the no plug.
It's Luther Xandraz. You got.

(27:48):
What else did I make of Part 2 of the Hey Shooter?
Hey Shooter, Part 1 and Part 2 like Tony's I got broken but I
never made a no. Part 2 didn't want nothing like
that. What about heard cuz was hot?
I did drop her cuz it's hot too and like 2022, but Nah, I can't

(28:13):
hold you shit. Don't be hitting the same
because I do different shit gangs, so I can't be capping.
I can't. I can't, I can't always.
I can talk about the streets. I can talk about, but I talk
about shit that I'm doing at thetime.
Like I'm in the era now the the buying the bill.
You know what I'm saying? The the buy the bag.
I'm in that era. Gang is just I can't talk about
how I'm walking down like it's just like I'm in a different era

(28:37):
now. I'm I'm popping my shit.
I'm in that era, you know what I'm saying?
And what about 762 volume to .5,Were there other volumes to that
or you just called that 2.5 just?
OK, I was locked up just before I got locked up.
It's supposed to be 2.5 and thenthree.
Never got to three. I might complete 3 though.

(28:58):
But there was never A1 or A2. You just started at 2.5 on that
one. No, it was 762.
And then there was volume to, then it was 2.5.
Got it. So just for clarification, when
it comes to all of these series,will you be doing any future

(29:20):
installments to any of them? Are there any plans to do any
future? Installments 762 or Like Tony.
I was thinking about a Like Tonyfinal for a minute.
Yeah, fax. Is there a difference between
any of these series? Yeah, like, like Tony, I made

(29:42):
that when I was feeling, like, on top of the world because I'm
seeing the difference. And, you know, even though Tony
needed Sosa, you know, at the end of the day, he still did it
by himself. And that's why I say that I
relate to, like, Tony because it's just like, you know, he did
it alone for real, you know whatI'm saying?

(30:03):
Like, he took over. He kicked this, you know what
I'm saying? He kicked the doors down, you
feel me, to get to where he was.So I felt like that I, you know,
definitely did that. Not in the like that he did like
chainsaw and his and all that. But yeah, like facts.

(30:23):
And what about Luther Xandros? That's what I'm talking about.
Pretty girls, making them feel good.
The woman you know, I talk about, I sing about the females,
I sing about the life, I sing about the streets too.

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Don't get me wrong, because you know what I'm saying?
A lot of people don't know how Ifeel when you, you know, I let
everybody relate. That's you know what I'm saying.
That's the target because they they skin too.
You know what I'm saying? So you know.
Zan Servin series. I was just about to drop a album

(31:06):
called Zan Serving before I changed it.
Till I'm in a way of myself or in a way of myself.
I'm sorry. So that was about to be Zan
serving 4. It was just going to be zan
serving, meaning the final one. Oh, got you.
Yeah, you know how they do. You know how they do.
Like how can I say they come outwith it and then they'll come

(31:28):
out with it again? They came out with Chucky even
though it was Bride of Chucky, but it was all Chucky.
And then they just stopped changing the titles, just like
how Michael Myers, it was just Michael Myers and then it was
just Halloween throughout all the ones.
They stopped doing the H2O and all of that after like 2010.
Then it was just all Halloween. So you know what I'm saying?

(31:49):
Just like that. What about the 762 series?
I'm going to do a 762, you know what I'm saying?
3. But is there a difference on
that? Those bodies, when I'm talking
about that, I'm I'm mostly talking about four, you know
what I'm saying? The gang.
That's a lot, 762. It's just like, you know, it was
more talking about your scars. But I'm still singing about that

(32:11):
too. And that's why I'm so glad when
I introduced it to the people early that what I'm going to be
doing with the rapping and singing, you know what I'm
saying? So show your talent you never be
scared bro. Never be scared man.
Heard cuz was hot series. Any difference there between
your other series? I was talking about your ***

(32:31):
what was hot and I'm still talking about the *** But let's
fuck the hot *** But we ain't meaning on that.
Hey, shoot a series. Hey shoot is just like popping
it. It can be mixed vibes on it.
I love hate shoot. Everybody love hate shoot,
right? That was one of them tapes too

(32:52):
that took me there. Kind of can't hold you damn like
Tony. No plug series.
No, no plug was kind of like like a off brand, like Tony, you
know what I'm saying? You see how they got
Transformers and then they got Voltron, you know what I'm
saying? It was kind of like that, like
the no plug is like the Voltron of that.

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And then just to rewind back theZan Servant series, how did that
differ from the other series, ifat all?
Zan Servant always mix the vibestoo.
I mix the vibes really on every album, but it's just what I'm
talking about on them. You feel me?
Zan Servant, it's kind of self-explanatory.
I got, you know, songs called Narcotics and, you know, so I

(33:33):
try to stick to it like that. Now, what about out of all your
projects so far, all the different series, whether it's a
series or not, it's a standaloneor not.
What's been your favorite project before this project
releases? This upcoming project, what's
been your favorite so far up into this upcoming?

(33:54):
So we'll take that upcoming one out of the picture.
But your previous bodies of work, what's your ultimate
favorite out of the entire collection?
Whatever volume, whatever installment, if it's a
standalone. I can't say bro, like it's just
like that would be so that's just like, bro, nobody has ever
came up and told me my favorite song by you was Midnight or

(34:17):
Point. Yeah, and you know what I'm
saying? Or or or or shattered Dreams or
P90 is always a variety. Nobody just got.
Do you have just more or just me?
Nobody just got for the artist that's versatile.
Nobody got a song that they one song that they only liked by
young boy. Nobody got only they favorite
song ever by Lil Dirk. You know what I'm saying?

(34:37):
Like it's just like, you know, but I would say if I had to
choose if I has went stupid, butMoody is is one of the ones for
me. But that's it bro.

(34:59):
Like I got so many. Why'd you choose Moody out of
all of them? Because it's, it's, it's
retaining, you know what I'm saying?
To me, like with my family, yes,that's what they call me.
You know, none of them call me by my real name.
All of them call me Moody. You know me from there for back

(35:21):
then or whatever, and you know me, it was Moody.
I'm saying that I am. And Speaking of names, what's
been the reaction to some of these titles that you've named
for your projects? Luther Xandros Fent Fayez
Barmelo, Xanthony Zan Lafleur, right?

(35:45):
What have been? What's been the reaction to
these names? Like fit fires bro.
When I was chopping it up, I wastalking to a Turk that's my
brother. And then he was just like, hey
bro. And I already knew him, you know
what I'm saying? Because I'm mutual.
I talked to him on the phone a couple times.

(36:06):
My dog is only always show support.
But then, you know, he was just like Brent fucking with it.
He fucking with the tape. I'm like, Oh yeah.
Then when I posted it, he commented on it and you know, we
just built that relationship. I've ever since, you know what
I'm saying? Like that's my brother, you know
what I'm saying? He a real cool, chill dude, you
know a real name. He funny and shit bro.

(36:28):
What about any of these other names?
Like fan fires. That was like it's a no brainer.
And he on the cover, you know what I'm saying?
You know, usually on Apple unless somebody clears that or
you know, so he really wasn't like, you know, like really
tripping on the line. He really fuck with it on.
But Finn Faye as Barmelo's Anthony, that's Barmelo Anthony,

(36:51):
Carmelo Anthony, you know what I'm saying?
Not the stabbing when the basketball player so.
Did he comment? Did his family comment?
Any reaction from him to that title or that project?
Nah, like my cameraman, he was actually talking to me about
this last night. So wax, if you see this, don't

(37:13):
play with me, Holmes. But he's the he the one who
helped me with a lot of these titles like he been in my
career. Like not to say that he owed but
I knew him since he was my age. Wait let that sink in.
I knew bro since he was my age. So 2017 ish. 2018 ish we get the

(37:41):
working and everything. He gave me the Luther Xandross
title he gave me the ball mellows Anthony title he gave
me. You know, like bro got a vision
for names and like when it comesto creativity.
Yeah, who came up with the Zan Lafleur and Fen Fayez?
I came up with I think me and dog.

(38:06):
I think me and dog. I forgot who came up with Fen
Fayez, but Zan Lafleur I came upwith is like Gucci.
I did all of his beats. That's when they used to allow
you can slip through the cracks on distro kid and those things
back then when it comes to, you know, copyright, they didn't
care about remixes and everything back then.
So. Was there any reaction from

(38:27):
Gucci Mane to that project or that name, title and things of
that nature? This is 20 I believe he was
locked up so Nah. 10 to 17 page DM you know, but Nah.
And just to rewind to Carmelo Anthony, did him or any reaction

(38:49):
from his family, his friends, his fans when you release that
project? Remember, I'm talking about the
basketball. Correct.
Yeah, but Nah, OK, so I'm about to say family and all that.
I'm like, Nah, I thought. Well, I believe he has a son
that plays basketball as well incollege now.

(39:11):
His name? Carmelo Anthony.
Is that the one who did the Sabbath thing?
Those are unrelated, but I believe, if memory serves me
right, he does have a kid in college that is in college
basketball. And what about Luther Xandros?
Any reaction from his estate or his fans to that?
Release, but it's it's been a lot of reactions from people

(39:35):
that was his fans like Robbie only listen to Vandross and
Xandros. I got that before a couple
times. Now, the common theme in these
four names that was presented here is a drug, a play on the
words of the Xanax and Zan for short.

(39:59):
But Speaking of that topic or that subject of drugs and drug
use, when it comes to you personally speaking here of your
past history of drugs and drug use, and this could be any
substance you've experimented with.
Do you have a horror high story?A bad experience while you were

(40:23):
high. I've said this before but man, I
popped his in in high school. Man I shitted on myself off a
Bob. Bro, I'm falling asleep in the
steps my man come over there like oh you good bro?

(40:48):
Like now I go in the bathroom, Iput my journal in the toilet to
suppress the sound. I ain't do work anyway.
All of them patients is blank. Then I go on that jump.
But I always had just off topic a little bit, but I always had
outside my knowledge. Even though I didn't do nothing
in school, I was always good at shit and reading above my grade
level. I can do all the work always you

(41:09):
know what I'm saying? I mean you can tell how
articulate I am bro, you know what I'm saying?
I'm not a bird brain. He's on me but yeah, facts like
I did that put through my journal in the toilet to
suppress the sound and all of that shit left that gentle cook
and I think I fell out in a mallbefore too and I also woke up in

(41:33):
in jail off of it too. When I got locked up.
I was, I was off that, but. They thought I was birdie a
Horror Story. Imagine sliding off drink we in
LA *** sold me some hit drink bro.

(41:54):
I don't know what was in that shit bro in a car baby girl and
shit me in black truck pull overon the highway.
I'm early and all that like soonsoon as ship like you can tell
and you know I don't know what happened to anyone but I don't.

(42:23):
I don't all right bro, but this is what I'm saying for real for
real, for real, for real, for real like I don't play that
game. You feel me?
Like it's just like what? You trying to unalign me, bro?
Like, you trying to haunt me, gang?
Like that's one jam in peace, bro.
Like, you know what I'm saying? *** Should I play like, shit

(42:46):
juice or like I had birdie? All right, Yeah, but that's a
Horror Story. When it comes.
That's how I felt because I still went to the hospital out
there because I'm like, I want to see if I have like that and
all in my system, yeah. What ended up happening with the

(43:07):
hospital results, medical results there?
Undisclosed. Got it.
Is something of that nature. Preventable.
OK, I'm going to tell the truth,right?
I had a panic attack bro, but they didn't find no fit in my

(43:28):
system. But it was hit with something
bro. But I had a panic attack
thinking of that shit bro and I snapped.
I ain't tell bro I was coming. Pause.
Is any of that preventable? What, you know, getting drank

(43:54):
and it's hit with something as you described that's not kosher,
for lack of better phrase. There's a couple ways you can
tell. I ain't giving away sauce, bro.
I don't do that shit no more. That shit not cool.
I don't, you know what I'm saying?
I don't ship drink no more, man.I'm a soul patroller, bro.
You know, Shout out to Richard Tate.
He definitely got me right, you know, show me the way.

(44:17):
And that's now. Shit different.
Like shit different. So you've quit that all
together? When's the last time you sipped?
Shit bro. Rough estimate.
Probably 4 hours ago. I don't do that shit no more.

(44:44):
All right. That shit ain't cool.
OK. Well, moving forward here now
with you, I do have some other questions I do want to ask you.
You mentioned the well on the music side of things.

(45:05):
I do want to ask you this, what's the current status with
you and young Manny? Manny all right, so a lot of
people wanted to ask this question, right?
Things the perfect time on DJ Smalls, right?
Manny's my family, bro. Like I don't know if anybody can
see it, but he tied it on my hand right here for the people

(45:27):
who don't know, I used to tech first tech that I got home that
I got when I came home like he was in my house.
He like, Nah, bro, we in this shit together, duh, duh, duh.
But as far as the current status, like me and Manny about
the drop again, me and Manny about to like really in the
studio drop again and might be out by the time might be out by

(45:49):
the time this come out. But yeah, we working like that's
my family. Like I never get that disturbed
or misconstrued, you know what I'm saying?
But just because people are up here that don't mean that they
got to be you know what I'm saying?
And and like a parallel, you know what I'm saying?
Like they can always go today, you know, they can go to the top
like this and still, you know, part ways.

(46:10):
It's just like, you know, the road.
Still, even he still doing this thing.
You know, I'm waiting for him to, you know, really show what
he can do for the music. But I love Manny to death, bro.
Nobody can ever tell me nothing about Manny, *** And the only
reason why did I feel that way? Because shit, Manny, my brother,
we we clash all the time. Like we would be talking ***

(46:31):
like that's family though, you know what I'm saying?
Nobody can tell me shit about him.
You know what I'm saying? You know how they be like, how
they be like, I can only call him an idiot, you know what I'm
saying? Like it is like that.
Nobody can say shit to me about him.
And I love him to death and and we good.
Like we yeah, we good facts. And it was never nothing

(46:52):
actually. I just feel like it was just
miscommunication in the past andlike how the outside people look
because it's just like supposed to be with the people that you
come up with, but you know. Do you want to share the title
of the collaborative effort? As like we just working.
I want to turn my phone off. I don't really like talking to

(47:17):
people. Do you want to do that now?
Yeah, sure. What?
OK, yeah, I'm turning my phone off for sure.

(47:44):
And. How that could?
No, I'm listening. You also mentioned that there
was part of the lifestyle where you and where you were using
PJS, private jets. I only took three in total, I'm
not going to lie, but this what I'm going to tell you, everybody

(48:06):
that came with me on a jet and you can ask them this, no matter
if it was females, I don't give a fuck if they come out with a
video and vouch, you know what I'm saying?
There's no bad, you know what I'm saying?
Bad blood, but for rather if youwere male, female, the gang that
came all of the times that we flew, it was all my expense.
So that's the reason why I was never no label.

(48:28):
It was never no loan. It was never no, it was always
my expense. No, I didn't get the the 15
passenger, you know I'm saying, but it's eight of us on the
hell, you know what I'm saying, like 7-8 of us, you know, I'm
saying we all had a good time. It was one time I went to go see
this girl because yeah, I went to go see this girl and I came
to the A and that was in 2022. Then I went on one to Miami.

(48:56):
What was that? December.
Yeah, that's the last time I went was December.
But yeah, that's a good time too.
But you know, last time I went in December, I might go again.
But it's just like, why, gang? You feel me?
Like especially when a duration be so short, I will only do that
to, you know, like I stack that shit now because it's just like

(49:20):
I can do whatever I want. So it's just like, why not just
keep stocking that shit up? Like forget the rest.
Like as long as it's in pocket, like, hey, I can't, I can't hear
what nobody saying. Yeah, I still buy my designer.
Yeah, I still show the people because that's what they want to
see that I got it. Yeah, bought the G Wagon,
bought, you know what I'm saying, Wifey, Tesla, all of

(49:40):
that. But for the most part, I'll be
I'll be stocking, bro. I do it when it matters.
Like I got land and shit like that.
What was the most you spent on APJ so far?
So not much actually, and this is the reason why because I know

(50:04):
the guy who family it is, you know what I'm saying?
Like that's my boy. So basically he bought a private
jet for his mom during COVID so she can have the best doctors in
New York because that shit look like a mayhem, you know what I'm
saying? It was like mayhem back then.
So got her APJ and all of that. And now since he has it, he

(50:27):
moves around back and forth to which state, what country,
whatever. But when he's not using it, I
only paid a fuel for real. For real.
So instead of me paying, you know, 10,000 to go from DC to
New York, I can get there for 3500, you know what I'm saying?

(50:48):
Or what's the prime example? Miami was probably like like
8500 in total, you know what I'msaying?
So it's not like I'm out here spending like 50, you know what
I'm saying? Like it's definitely like little
10's and shit like that. But yeah, I know that.
I know the the guy, his whole team, like the pilot and all

(51:09):
that. So anytime that I do want to go,
I might use it for more music videos and stuff.
I might ask him if I can wrap itfor a year or something, that'd
be cool, but other than that? Now for someone that's just seen
the private jet lifestyle and things of that nature on social
media or videos on social media,so on and so forth, but have

(51:30):
never had a chance to fly private.
They've flown commercial, haven't done the private thing
yet. What is that really like?
I mean, it's pros and cons with everything, right?
So let's start here because here's my pet peeves about it,
all right? So it's the you can feel the
turbulence more since it's smaller.

(51:53):
When it comes to bags, they theyreal.
Sometimes they be strict on like, you know what I'm saying,
weight and everything, you know,depending on the duration and
the size, you feel me of your bag because I'll be having like
a overweight 50 LB bag. Sometimes they don't be doable.
You know, if I had my Goyard or something little bag or LV bag,
whatever, you know that usually straight to go on a couple
duffel bags, but not just like 4over here carriage like I'm

(52:16):
getting on American. No, but hey guys, it's pros and
cons. You get there faster, you can
get places faster. You don't have to wait for 300
people to get on the board and everything is just like once the
pilot ready, he's ready. I like that about it.
But as far as luxury wise and everything, the how it feels, I

(52:38):
don't feel like that I'm on top of the world or nothing.
I just I'm using more for now asa as a timely thing when it
popping my shit thing. Rich taught me that too, because
he tied me in with all these people from the investment side
to the, you know, everything. So I feel like 100% yes.
What about the Mile High Club? Is that attainable on a private

(53:03):
jet? I never looked into that, like
always. Damn.
I was like straight up and I like what I do like though, how
can I say it? The most thing that I like about
it is only been on like the samejet ever since though, you know

(53:24):
what I'm saying? But I've been on other private
jets, never flew. You know what I'm saying, with
no other artists or nothing. But it's good gang.
Like it feel good to fly just like the same thing.
Kind of, you know, got his pros and cons, but for the most part
it's the same bro. It ain't the hype ain't too, too

(53:45):
much. I'm not at that huge, huge level
to the point where I need to just be hiding myself.
And plus, I don't think that I'mever going to do that because
again, I love my supporters game.
Like you want to come up and youknow what I'm saying?
Like holler at me, bro. I like to treat them like like
it's my last time. I'm going to see them.
You know what I'm saying? I like them to make them, you

(54:06):
know, feel good for supporting me.
You know what I'm saying? Like that's what I stand on.
And what about for like the smokers out there?
Obviously you can't smoke on a commercial jetline.
Never tried. I don't be bending the rules too
much when I'm already getting such a you know what I'm saying?
I'm all I hit the vapor a littlebit, you know what I'm saying?

(54:27):
But I'm not going to push my boundaries when I'm already
getting such a good deal, you know what I'm saying?
Like you can't you can't beat that I you know what I'm saying?
Shit, I might not eat on that healthy if they tell me not to
brother, but I ain't no bitch about it, you feel me?
But like that's no, I ain't going to cross that rule.
I can, you know, keep that. That's a relationship worth

(54:47):
keeping forever. You know what I'm saying?
You never know, some 2012 shit might happen in earthquakes
happening and shit shit ramblingaround.
I'm on that PJ. Y'all hit so shit like that.
Now you also mentioned that one of the PJ flights was for a
female you were interested in linking up with in Atlanta.

(55:11):
I don't even want to elaborate on that too much.
It was kind of a bad day experience.
It's kind of like a worst experience because like a ***
ain't even crack like first day.So it's just like damn, I did
all of this for nothing, bitch. I came with the red carpet out.
Like you were supposed to pull up to me.
Now it's turn for me to pulling up to you.

(55:32):
It's shit crazy. I don't move around like that.
Like it was cool. Like she's a cool vibe, you
know? You know what I'm saying?
I don't got no hate towards you.If you're watching this bro, we
cool. I swear to God we is.
I don't want nothing to do with it at all.
Be straight though. But she was alright.

(55:53):
And Speaking of females at this point?
Your relationship status What isyour current relationship status
at this point? I'm with the one and I'm happy.
I'm with the one and I'm happy bro.

(56:16):
That's my relationship status. I'm with the one and I'm happy
and fuck a hoe fuck a ho, fuck abitch.
You get with one person to buildbro the grass is never greener
on the other side which you might deal with from a one
person you not going to deal from the next.
I guarantee you it's stuff that even with you with us all.

(56:36):
You know I'm saying this other things or other characteristics
not to put us on the spot but tobe real that we wish that we can
take from previous partners and give it to our current one.
They have the perfect one but that's the reason why nobody
perfect. So the grass is never greener.
It's just like a female would belike OK but he talked to me
crazy. OK, but the last *** hit you
which problem you willing to deal with?
And you know what I'm saying? So it's just like the grass is

(56:59):
never green on the other side bro.
So that's why I say that you getwith one partner that you the
problems that you are willing todeal with and you work on them
as much as possible and you build with them to the top.
Fuck a hoe, fuck a hoe, fuck a hoe.
Do you want to share who your current significant other is?
Fuck a ho. Fuck a hole.

(57:27):
Fuck a hole. All right, I'm listening.
My fault. OK, now switching gears here.
Who or what motivates you at this point?
That's why I was turning around,because it used to be the money.
Now it's the consistency. I would not drop no project.

(57:51):
My labels can tell you this previous labels like bro, I will
not drop a project unless I'm getting everything full upfront
or you're not going to see me dropping.
And it's not that it was not like I needed the money or
whatever. It's just that I wanted it like
bro, I want to do some more flyer shit.
Damn, I posted I'm thinking too much of the Internet.
I'm like, damn, I only posted a 30 ball this time.

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The next time I got up 100 on them, not saying that I can't,
you know what I'm saying and I could then even before I had it,
but it was just like, you know, I was thinking about too much of
the Internet or what they would think rather than just being
myself for you know what I'm saying, for who I am.
That's the reason why I really stopped wearing, you know what
I'm saying, too much jewelry, bro, I could have came in.

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It's just heavy. I won't be, you know what I'm
saying, try and press, but I know that's what they want to
see. So I do show them what I'm doing
on my daily lifestyle because I know that I'm blessed and you
know what I'm saying, the peoplethat support me, but I don't
move like that gang. I like to put God first and
everything to fall into place, bro.
That's what you put first and keep your relationship strong
with your partner and you know what I'm saying?
Keep your circle small with yourfamily and being on family man

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time and then still do fly shit.Don't get me wrong, I still have
the studio guys pull up, get them all done and tacos shit
like that for sure. You know what I'm saying?
Because it's a part of who I am.But I don't flaunt it like it's
like I'm better than no one. No, I'm not.
Now, circumstances could be different for everyone here, but
there may be someone in the audience who needs some

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motivational words or encouragement themselves right
now. I can't hold you.
I'll be thinking. They'd be thinking art is lying
when they see this shit. I feel like from a person that's
at home at the standpoint, and we'll be thinking shit like this
is real, gang. But the only thing I'm going to
tell you is definitely real and keep up the consistency because
once you do, once you do, it's afan base for everything.

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It's a fan base for everything. People come out with genres,
this band, lab artist, you don'tgot no excuses.
How am I working harder than youwith everything that I have
going on? Fuck the PJS and the lifestyle.
When I'm talking about musically, how am I working
harder than you? I tell my dogs the same thing.
Hey, I can take you to the water, you can be in the rooms
with me. But it's a different stature

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now. Back then, they'll give you a
deal because of who you be with.It's not like that now nobody
cares and it might get you a couple of followers depending on
who the person is, but it ain't going to boost you up that much
and it ain't going to make the next person tune into you to be
like, OK, I'm a die hard fan of this person.
Every time you drop him, TuneIn to him, not going to make you

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care because it's an not even because of Drake and that it
will boost it up. But you got to realize, like,
never mind. Now I do want to ask you this
kind of a similar subject matterhere.
You've been signed to a major record label before, you've been

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signed to another artist before or another artist imprint and
you've also been independent as well.
What is your opinion on signing under another artist or another
artist imprint versus signing toa major or being independent?
It depends on who the artist is.Like I said walk he pushes

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artist, he don't care how many followers he got.
This guy have like 12,000 posts on Instagram gang, you know what
I'm saying? So it's just like he don't you
can go back to his history from 2013 on his page like so it's
just like when it comes to signing the artist, it depends
on what the artist is going to do because you don't they really
don't be caring too much about their investment.

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You know what I'm saying? That 50 baht that they probably
gave you was a show for them fora week and you feel me?
But when it comes from the labels though, you know, like we
want to see our investment some way or at least we going trap.
So let's put this *** on X&Y&Z platform.
Let's try to sprinkle this over here.
Let's try the waterfall Spotify drop, you know what I'm saying?
So things of that nature like yeah, but sign into a artist.

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It depends on who the artist is,you know, not to use nobody as
an example or nothing, but like I see somebody like little
double though, somebody who havetheir own fan base.
But you know, but when you see the free bang chain, you know
what I'm saying? You know what's going on?

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So kind of like that you can be doing that and still be your own
entity. Kind of like a money bag, yo.
You don't look at him as Joe Gotti artist, but it is what it
is. Same thing for Glorilla, same
thing for really all of the artists on Gotti label.
Same thing with Birdman. You don't look at him as you
don't look at Drake or Lil Wayne, like, Oh yeah, this

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Birdman artist, you know what I'm saying?
So you don't want to be known asthat.
You want to always have your ownthing going on.
And that's also what love me andBig Cool and everybody
respecting me about that. I came over there, you know what
I'm saying? Already with something going on,
I just needed it structured. Because that's something that
and just kind of jumping on something you just said, we've

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seen artists sign to another artist and they never get bigger
than the head of that artist. And then there are some where
the artists that are signed are bigger than the artists that
sign them. So just you.
Can go hand in hand. That's why I said it's dependent
on the artist. Look at this like partying

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Drake. He's still his own thing.
Not Drake. You know what I'm saying?
No hate, no offense, but we talking about it is what it is.
We going to keep this shit concrete like boys want to keep
this shit concrete like boys like boating them.

(01:03:38):
Nah what? I said we going to keep this
shit concrete. We keeping this shit real we can
keep it 100 about. Me too bro, I won't be copping.
Bro now how long have you been in the music industry for rough

(01:04:03):
estimate? Music industry actually or been
dropping music. I guess this is perspective, so
however way you want to take. It OK I've been dropping music
since seriously on Spinrilla since 2012.
I had a tape it was called finesse Lord.
I made the album cover. I put the parental advisory.

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I felt the guys that *** had theold and middle school cranking
that shit. Nah, yeah, hold middle school
cranking that shit. At least my class where I
wasn't. Yeah, my class was cranking that
shit. Used to play it on the Bluetooth
speaker. I'm like turn it off and they
plug it up to the little teacherJohn with the little iPods and
shit like that. Like I'm like bro, turn it off.

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I'm shy and all that, but shit, I broke out there shell.
Oh well. Now there are some in the
audience wondering here. Is the Illuminati real?
John, give me snipe. Just asking a question.

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Around here, who do you work for?
All right, repeat your question.Let me make sure I heard this
right. There are some in the audience
wondering, is the Illuminati real?

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Does this exist in the music industry?

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What you said just. OK.
All right. So before I ask you this next
question, I want to set it up like this.
All right. Now, just to take it all the way
back personally speaking here, for those in the audience
getting to know you here for thevery first time, care to share

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where you were born? I was born in Landover, MD.
That's why I was raised Landover, MD Bryce he wrote you
know what I'm saying. It was a Leonard and apartments.
So that's why I was raised. You know what I'm saying?
And I I still talk to a lot of people from you know what I'm

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saying from the hood and still support.
But bro, like it get different now.
Like I'm happy for a lot of people, a lot of people that
I've seen who was them *** in high school who gave themselves
away. It's just like shit and it hurts
sometime when you, the person that surpassed everybody that
you look up to, you know what I'm saying?
The *** that I learned from withthat trap shit, rap shit,

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whatever it come to like and no,not rap, excuse my excuse my
language, and I say that that shit come from the heart.
I don't get that shit. We keep that shit concrete, but
when but with the trap shit, everything that I was doing,
whatever, whatever they told me like yes, I used to look up to
them *** I'm thinking like, damn, especially back then

(01:07:17):
having 1500 walking around 15102thousand in your pocket just
already read. You know what I'm saying?
He looking like that *** when I'm in high school and he in
school with me, you know what I'm saying?
They was in school with me. They was and just like you know,
it's it hit different when you pass.
You know what I'm saying? The people that you surpass, the
people that you look up to, and I still don't think that I'm
better than nobody, bro. Like so even to answer your

(01:07:38):
question a little bit deeper, for the people that's getting to
know me for the first time, a lot of shit sound too good to be
true, but I like to keep it like100 gang.
I got flaws just like how everybody else do, but I'm a I'm
a good genuine *** bro. You know what I'm saying?
I don't, you know, and I I learned that through experience.

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I didn't learn that wage. That's the reason why a lot of
people think that I'm older thanI am because I learned a lot
with I play around and shit too,but I learned a lot with
experience rather than age. You know what I'm saying?
And and I thank God, bro, because it's a lot this, you
know, that went on that I couldn't.

(01:08:24):
I could have been like, not where I am now or not here at
all. You know what I'm saying?
So that's why I like to stay outof the way.
Move militant, mind my business,keep stacking my pig and take
care, fam, Bro, I don't, you know what I'm saying?
Like the person that I used to be is a completely different
person, bro. Like man, shit, shit was bad.

(01:08:46):
Like don't get shit wrong though, you know what I'm
saying? Shit ain't juice, you know what
I'm saying? Like, but it's just that I'm not
actively in the streets no more.This shit not it's not the same,
you feel me? Like it's not the guy on the
farm I can't talk about. Walk down with a Drake.
What on on my land? Yeah, maybe you know what I
mean? It's just shit different now,

(01:09:09):
bro, that money here, different money make you change.
And you know what I'm saying? Could be in good ways, you know
what I'm saying? And I, I have a quote that I
want to address too. And I just have to ask you one
question. What do you think on money
brings? Like money buys happiness.

(01:09:29):
Well, I take my personal opinionout of the interview.
This interview is just all aboutyou here.
But you can ask the audience if you'd like and they can place a
comment. OK, cool.
So I don't know, I just have a little opinion on it.
I feel like money because somebody else said if you what's
it called? If money doesn't buy happiness,

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then you don't know what a shock.
I agree to an A certain extent because shit bro, somebody can
still throw my day off and all of this shit I got going on, you
know, I still got emotions. Somebody can still throw my day
off who got nothing going on, not even a troll on the Internet
or nothing. You know, not nothing like that.
But yeah, facts. Like when you get an issue that

(01:10:13):
money can solve, you look aroundlike what now?
And I didn't even reach that. You know what I'm saying 2030
mil, you know what I'm saying? I didn't even you know what I'm
saying get there yet like, but it's just like fool.
I see how it is now with a a couple of 100 grand.
You feel me like this shit? Nah.

(01:10:34):
Bro and care to share where you reside these days?
Totally respect that. Care to share what age you were
when you left Landover? I was young, so it was by middle
school, but I was still going around there after I got

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transferred, you know? Now for those in the audience
that are not familiar with Landover, MD but may be familiar
with Baltimore, how far of a drive is that distance wise
between those two locations? Like 4550 minutes bro 4550

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minutes with traffic. You're looking at damn near hour
30 after after like 6-7 o'clock cool 40 minute drives that
straight, no traffic highways boom boom shock a lot.
Now what is your opinion on the phrase DMV?

(01:11:46):
This shit going to be a channel.I don't pay attention to all of
that, bro. DC, Maryland, Virginia.
I'll be thinking sometimes that the reason why that they don't
call the DMV, the DMV and the DMV is because that shit's
called the NBA Motor Vehicle Administration, but anywhere
else it's called drivers, drivermotor vehicle.

(01:12:10):
I forgot whatever. But anywhere else but in the DMV
is called the NBA, but everywhere else is called the
DMV. So it's just like, yeah, it's
crazy. I think I'd be wondering like,
is that why they changed the name?
Because the DM, but the DMV is only the DMV to like, yeah, but

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I don't get it. Fucking I don't get it.
And what about this accent of yours?
I don't think I have one bro. Like I don't think that is
strong. You feel me as other people,
because shit, I take a lot of time bro, Like correcting my

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grammar, bro, that's why shit, that's why them punch.
That's where them punch lines becoming from. *** I'm
encyclopedia dictionary type of *** you know what I'm saying?
I looked at what Eminem used to do.
I say he read the whole dictionary.
Lil Wayne and all of them *** bro.
He is in college and all that bro.
I look at that shit. That shit made me more awesome,
you know what I mean? That's why I'm different from

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the rest. I'm not going to say I'm
different from the rest because I know how to read.
I know it's probably some rappers who can read, but you
know what I'm saying? I'm, I'm consistent with the
reading. You know what I'm saying?
I buy a book. I love urban novels, you know
what I'm saying? Everybody read when they get
locked up, but I continue reading after, you know what I'm
saying, so. And another question here asked

(01:13:34):
you previously, you know what's the current status with you and
young Manny and you provided that answer.
But I did want to ask you this just to follow up and nothing to
do with him, but just zooming out here, who's been the biggest
person in the music industry youfell out with?
But it has since been repaired. I don't know if I want to say

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that. It might stop some shit again me
and I may be always clashing, but it wasn't.
Nothing too big. But that's my dog, right?
But I ain't going to say it, youknow what I'm saying?
But whoever this person is your speaking on, what's the current
status between you? 2 good terms at this point.

(01:14:30):
No terms at this point. It's cool terms, you know what
I'm saying I call here call. We make sure each other
straight, but he a big artist though, everybody know him.
I ain't going to even say where you from, y'all going up
automatically. But no that's my dog though,
ain't no problems so. OK.
All right Zen, I think I got maybe one more thing for you

(01:14:52):
here. Just checking my notes once
again. Ah yes, I do want to ask you
this. Two more topics. 2 more topics.
Speaking of Maryland, once again, do want to ask you this

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if there was a Mount Rushmore ofMaryland rappers, which four
people would you pick and why? It depends on where you're
talking about, bro, because if you going like if you started
from like 27 teen, you know, I'msaying and all of that, like you

(01:15:45):
got to give it to the the Rico nasty, shy glizzy fat trail.
I say I forgot Rushmore. Isn't that 4 right off?
Yeah, four. OK, but I say shy, busy Rico
nasty fat trail. And what's somebody else doing

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there? Oh, I say Q No.
Who? Nah of that era.
I say Q and then, like I say, after that goon do myself, I

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have to say 5 money, my and Manny.
And then after that you had the whole wave when the DC people
then after that get into like the twenty 20s or the nose, the
savage, the the the gears, the the the credit.
You know what I'm saying? And then you got again.
This is coming out with more. Now you got the I feel like you

(01:16:56):
steal me like today, You know what I'm saying?
Like and we're speaking from a numbers in industry game, then
shit like songs and stature and accomplishments, then who we
talking about? You know what I'm saying to
still do that to this day. It's definitely Nino, though.
I say savage, I say I say and noorder right, I say Nino KP

(01:17:26):
savage kids and it's another artist I can name too.
Smoked Chapo about to go crazy, but I see myself again like 5
like really still like it's a lot of artists.
It's so many artists I can mention who doing anything from

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the DMV like like bro, I can't hold you.
There's so many *** who doing any shit bro that I can name
right now. I this interview might 3 be 3
hours. I'm talking about we're really
doing numbers and doing something in the industry.
Like it don't even have to be necessarily them rooms, but they
taking over TikTok bro, the DMV doing so good as a whole, but
this beef and shit and the politics.

(01:18:07):
You got this shit area with how has always been.
You feel me? Just like how a lot of major
cities is politics shit split up.
You know what I'm saying? But other than that, yeah, it's
a facts I say. Those are some amazing artists,
bro. Everybody that I named and a lot
of people that I didn't name some honorable mentions, you
know, doing anything like slime,get them G Chino.

(01:18:28):
You got a lot of people that's like like really coming up out
of that stature, like drag, you know, even females is coming up
like bro, so many people that I can name bro, like so many
people, bro who still doing any shit to this day, little dude,
even bro like little dude, he'd been around for a while who's

(01:18:48):
still been staying afloat and and still being in the rooms and
still getting people to actuallylisten to him.
I see him too. Like, yeah, I see you from that
time too, like you from like 2017 and all of that.
Brad, don't get me wrong, Brad was definitely cranking.
I don't got no problem with you and shit out this way out the

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window. I'll be talking.
Now, before this interview ends,is there anything else you were
not asked? Followers, fans or supporters or
whatever. You have a name for them.
You refer to them as want to know.

(01:19:32):
Nope, they probably don't want to know nothing.
They probably want to know when I'm a chop these bitches off and
it's going to be soon, bro. I'm about to go back on Reggie
stream. We're going to do it on there.
And asking if you had a name because you know, like Nicki
Minaj has the barbs or Beyoncé has the Beehive and so and so
has this and so and so has that.Didn't know if you had a name

(01:19:53):
for your. Fandom like I do, I say like
they say what's up shoot. A lot of my supporters, they
call me shoot and like, bro, I fucked with this shoot like and
they call me shoot when I say hey shoot, dressing the men when
I say hey shoot, baby, I'm addressing the ladies.
You know what I'm saying? I don't know, like in the girls,

(01:20:14):
they gave me that name off a clubhouse shoot baby, but I used
to shoot that shit over to him like but whatever, the enough of
that. Now with this conversation, is
there anything else you want to add on to what you've said
before you leave or subtract? From which all of my supporters

(01:20:34):
gang and everybody who got me here to this day, the reason why
that I can support and take careof my family.
I appreciate everybody and there's so many artists who I
have helped that I've done songswith along the way who's either
at my level and or higher. You know what I'm saying?
And I really, I really fuck withseeing people win, bro.
And I'm not the, you know, I'm saying same person I used to be.

(01:20:57):
And I'm glad that I changed in alot of good ways, bro, and that
the supporters are seeing my maturity.
You know, I'm saying it's from the rap game to the consistency
to the the new look. They loving it.
I'm feeling good. Now was going to ask you here if
you had any last words unless what you just said there was it.

(01:21:22):
It's all love from everybody man.
Don't do drugs bro. A lot of artists say be
consistent. If you drop a song on distro kid
ain't only making $100 a month. Make 10 more of those gang.
You won't be making a bang and the label won't reach out
because once you're making at least a band a month, they can
at least give you a deal for 10 because they're going to X that

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times 5 of what you're making every month.
You know what I'm saying? That's approximately 12,000 a
year they're going times that times 5.
What you get you got yourself a deal.
So be consistent bro be consistent.
Drop that shit. Don't leave anyone else.
Fuck with anybody talking about drop it.
And you never heard nobody say man I'm about to unfollow him he

(01:22:04):
post too much never heard it flood the market.
You got a world to conquer. Stop playing, you Plumb all that
Plumb. That's it now.