Eagles' Redemption: Overcoming Tragedy, Quarterback Bias, and Super Bowl Glory Pursuit

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D.K. (00:03):
The Power of the Power of the Power of the Power of.

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And then there was two.
Lucky it wasn't my two, but ohwell, at least someone is
representing the Super Bowl, andit's your boys here TJ and DK
and the DK and Tree Podcast.
Again.
Then there was two.

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But I just want to say thisright off the break, before we
even start Fuck Kansas City.
All right, go ahead.
Hey, look who it is.
It's Tish Just staying off thebreak.
You know, man just staying at,you know you know, man, we're

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here now.

T.J. (01:13):
You know we are really here now.
It's honestly, it's been such aincredible season.
We've had some highs and lows.
We had some ups.
We've had some highs and lows.
We had some upsets.
We had some teams who wethought were going to stomp the
yard on the NFL and the NFLended up stomping the yard on

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them.
We had teams who have shockedus and we are in the Super Bowl
with a team who has a chance todo something that no one has
ever done in three peating, andyou have another team who has
the opportunity to stop thatfrom happening, with a running

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back that has arguably thegreatest running back season of
all time.
And no, I am not being facetioushere Led by I'm going to just
say it now because a lot ofpeople are acting like he
doesn't deserve to be in thisconversation A top five
quarterback in today's NFL,leading the charge, with one of

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the best defenses in the league,one of the best offensive lines
in the NFL.
I'm excited, man.
I cannot wait.
I put on my Kelly Green, I'mready to go.
Baby, let's go.

D.K. (02:37):
Listen, listen, listen.
As long as y'all beat KansasCity I'll be happy.
Okay, like I said, I alreadygot the messages this morning
from my family up in Kansas City.
Oh, it's Super Bowl Sunday.
They start with me early in themorning.
Okay, yep, that sounds aboutright.

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Oh, you too, tish, listen, look, I'm tired of them.
Listen, y'all gotta beat them.
Like I said we before we cameon air, we was talking about
this.
Billy has a lot of emotion thatriding with right now the
incident that happened up therewith the plane crash.
You know people have lost theirlives.
You know the rebuilding processthey talking about it's gonna

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take weeks to clean up.
So, listen, y'all got a lot ofemotion that y'all riding on
y'all to bring back to that cityand say, hey, we brought a
championship here.
All this tragedy just happened.
We just brought a championshipback to our city.
And again, at least one bird isthere.
You know my bird sitting athome.
So, man, I just hope y'all becan-seating, and if it sounds

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like I'm being biased, yes, I'mbeing biased, nah, man.

T.J. (03:56):
I totally get it.
Look I.
This week has been sochallenging for me because I've
had a lot of people hit me upand they're like, what are you
going to say about the game?
Like, what are your thoughts?
How's this game going to go?
I'm like look guys, I have myshow on Friday.

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I'm going to do something SuperBowl Sunday.
Y'all can get on my nerves then.
I am not saying a bad wordabout the opponent.
I am not saying anything crazyabout how the game is going to
turn out.
None of that until we get toSunday.
We're here.
Now we are here now.

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You don't want to say nothing.

D.K. (04:41):
I'm going to say something .
I hope y'all beat the brakesoff Kansas City.
I hope y'all hit the brakes offKansas.

T.J. (04:46):
City.
I hope y'all hit my homer sohard that y'all just send him on
the sideline.

D.K. (04:50):
Okay, listen, I am tired of Kansas City.
Okay, I'm tired of all theirtomfoolery.
I'm tired of the refs takingthem for them.
I'm tired of it all.
Okay, look, let these guys playthe game.
I hope y'all go out there andstomp on mud, hold them and walk
that shit dry.

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Okay, listen, I mean, take themto town, get pressure on my
homes, knock kelsey out the gate, all of it.
I'll be for every bit of it aslong as they don't win.

T.J. (05:24):
Yeah and again if it's gonna be.

D.K. (05:26):
If it's gonna be by, it's gonna be philly against the refs
.
Yes, sis, it sure is phillyagainst the refs.
Man, I again I want to see howmany illegal formation calls
they're gonna call on y'alltoday oh no, I mean, they're
probably.

T.J. (05:45):
They're probably going to try to be slick with the tush,
push today probably, uh, morethan ever.
But, umoff, I think I have tosay, as an Eagles fan, I'm very,

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very proud of the team and whatthey're able to accomplish this
year and what they're going todo.
Let me make sure I make thisperfectly clear so no one's
caught off guard here.
Make sure I make this perfectlyclear so no one's caught off
guard here.
What they're going to dotonight and beat the Kansas City
Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
It's a testament to just theentire team.

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You got to remember this pastoffseason we got two brand new
coordinators.
This past offseason we had anall-time great at center retire
and everybody was saying youknow what?
The offense is not going to bethe same.
The offensive line is not goingto be the same.

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It's not going to be as good.
We had drafted two rookiecorners to start for us.
Ultimately, we took a chanceand paid a guy 13 million
dollars to be our startingrunning back, who ended up
having an all-time season, bythe way, and uh.

D.K. (07:25):
Thanks, new York.
Oh my bad.

T.J. (07:28):
Thank you, thank you.
I'm telling you right now look,I got a little machine going on
over here.
I'm going to have to figure outsome sort of jingle to make for
the New York Giants.
The tune might grow a littlebit louder if Saquon wins MVP
tonight.
I am not going to lie to you,that would be the cherry on top,

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to be honest with you, justkiss.
But it's just fantastic, man,it really is.
You know, we all have hadconversations and we talked
about it all year long aboutNick Sirianni and you know
whether he deserves to be thehead coach and all that other

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stuff.
And it's been a battle all yearlong and it's like we've always
been waiting for that othershoe to drop, if you will, and
it hasn't happened yet.
So I know a lot of people don'twant to do it today.
Regardless of what happens,nick sirianni, I will be the

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first in the field to do this.
I gotta give credit where creditis due.
You have found a way, some waysomehow to weather the storm
with everybody coming at yourneck, even though you be coming
down people's necks, to pause,if needed.
No ditty, if you will, buteither way, man, like just the

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fact that, as a head coach, youare able to weather all the
noise with the media.
That is Philadelphia.
I got to admit, man, I got togive props where props is.
Philadelphia.
I got to admit, man, I got togive props where props is due.
Fantastic, fantastic Hell of aseason and it's going to end
again.
You cannot take anything awayfrom it, with us winning a Super

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.

D.K. (09:16):
Bowl, yeah, and I damn sure hope at the end of the
night y'all holding the lombarditrophy open.
I'd be like thank you, jesus,to stop this debacle of kansas
city.
You know, and again, the only10 time they scored over 30
points was when they beat thebills all season, including the

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playoffs Yep, including theplayoffs and they had some help
with that.
I mean, we all see the bias inthis.
That's what Kansas City, it'sthe whole New England thing.
We all see it, everybody see it.
Now, if your NFL commissioneris coming out saying the same
thing and now the refereeassociation is upsetting and

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outraged over him saying that,then there's a problem.

T.J. (10:07):
There's a problem.

D.K. (10:09):
They've gotten favorable calls all season long, all
season, to get them back to theSuper Bowl.
Oh, don't touch Mahomes now.
Don't touch him.
As soon as you touch him, he'slooking for a flag flag.
What happened?
Oh, oh, oh.
Let's not forget the play wherehe was running out of bounds

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and slowed down to get the hit,trying to get a flag.
Who pointed that out?

T.J. (10:37):
troy acheman pointed it out, so why do you slow?

D.K. (10:40):
down trying to draw a flat favorable.
Ah, I'm tired of them.
Go philly hey look what about?

T.J. (10:52):
I'll say this too.
Yeah, go philly.
I will say this too.
Um, if there is something thatdoes go on our side for today's
game, we can honestly say thatwe have been here before.
Yeah.

D.K. (11:13):
We have been here before.

T.J. (11:14):
Different circumstances, different team, but we've been
here before.
But we've been here before.
We were doing this back in 2017against the legendary New
England Patriots, led by TomBrady and Bill Belichick, which
in that year I'm going to lety'all in on a little secret the

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refs got a little bit involvedin some of their games as well.
Of course, of course, of course, we've been down this road
before.
Now you can definitely make theargument and I will we could
have beat them the firstgo-around back in 22.

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But there was a guy who nolonger is playing for us today,
which I'm so glad that he's notwho thought it was a great idea
to not keep his hands to himself.
One of the basic rules you weretold back in elementary school
keep your hands to yourself.
Well, apparently this corner Iam not going to say his name
because it does not deserve tobe mentioned right now decided

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it was a great idea to have apass interference in the heat of
the fourth quarter and it ledto a score that we ended up not
coming back from.
So he's no longer on our roster, thank God.
And this year you can make theargument that we have a better
defense than we did in 22.

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And I am not going to lie, man,we got Saquon Barkley baby.

D.K. (12:52):
That's going to be their problem.
They have to stop Saquon.
That's going to be theirproblem.
You got to stop Saquon, solisten.
I love when Derrick Henry wasbeing interviewed, being
interviewed, he said, well,who's your picks?
He said none of them.
He said I hope they're both.
It was, it was just so funny,but I get it.
He said I'm not here, yeah, soI don't care.
But I mean I get it.

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But, like I said, to beat thisnecessary evil, go philly.
Yes, I'm Go Philly.
I'm tired of them.
They need to be knocked down apeg, and this is the perfect
place to have them knocked downa peg is in the Super Bowl,
because remember when NewEngland went that undefeated
season, who beat them in theSuper Bowl?

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Knocked them down a peg.
The Giants Beat them in theSuper Bowl for a perfect season.
This is the perfect time forthat to happen again.
The perfect time for that tohappen again.

T.J. (13:47):
And ironically it would be a guy who you know.
I was talking in a group chatyesterday and I said I want
y'all to know that if the Eagleswin this game tonight and Jalen

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Hurts is the MVP, I want y'allto understand that he is a top
five quarterback in the NFLtoday.
It shouldn't even be aconversation.
You can put your Mahomes there,you can put your Lamar
conversation.
You can put your Mahomes there,you can put your Lamar there,
you can put your Josh Allensthere, you can put Joe Burrow
there.
That fifth spot better have andbetter end with Jalen Hurts.

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Okay.
And a lot of people are likethey're probably hearing me say
this.
They're like what, what are youtalking about?
Justin Herbert, dak prescott,uh, how about?
Uh, matthew stafford?

D.K. (14:52):
guys, let me let you in a little, but I mean, come on now,
we already see all the bond.
This is especially with theblack quarterbacks.
We, we see that, we, we, we allsee that, we, we, we all see
that, the bias that they have,all all that aside.

T.J. (15:12):
All that aside, name me a quarterback who has been since
he's gotten, since he's been incollege, not not since he's been
in the league since he's beenin college that's had seven
offensive coordinators sincehe's played quarterback.

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I will wait yeah, I will too, Iwill do, and I will do and and I
think we really need to havethose type of conversations,
because I notice a trend thereseems to be some sort of an

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excuse or a weak spot foreveryone else that's in the top
five, okay.
Patrick Mahomes oh, he doesn'thave to have a great year.
He's already one of the bestquarterbacks all time.
So even if he throws 15 millioninterceptions, he's always
going to be the best quarterbackin the league bullshit.
But whatever.
Josh allen man you knowsometimes he could be a little

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reckless, sometimes he couldhave some bad decision making,
but you know it doesn't matter.
You know he's still the secondbest quarterback, third best
quarterback, depending on whoyou talk to in the league.
Lamar Jackson man, we love thisguy, we love Lamar.
Playoff games come around.

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Unfortunately, his record isnot the greatest.
Joe Burrow oh, we love joeburrow.
Led the league in passing, ledthe league in touchdowns oh my
god, joe burrow, hey, um did.
Did the bingles make theplayoffs this year?

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Oh, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, oh, I'm sorry, it'sbecause he didn't have a defense
.
Okay, okay, it's because hedidn't have a offensive line oh,
that's what it is, oh, oh.

D.K. (17:10):
But he can light the scoreboard up.

T.J. (17:13):
Oh, oh.
And then is Justin Herbert oneof the best quarterbacks, the
best young quarterbacks in theNFL.
Justin Herbert, chargers, go,go, chargers.
Didn't I see him, in a recentplayoff game, throw four
interceptions?
Didn't that happen?
That did happen.

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Right, that did happen, justinHerbert.
But yet every single timethere's a conversation brought
up about Jalen Hurts you know,man, he's not really all that
great.
You know he doesn't throw over150 yards passing he's.

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You know he's very inaccurateand you know he's just not very
good.
I just, I don't know about him.

D.K. (18:02):
All the biasness.
They do it all the time To allthe black quarterbacks, all of
them.
It's a shame.
It's a shame, absolutely,absolutely.
But we'll talk about the MVPrace on another note.

T.J. (18:17):
Oh, no, no, absolutely.
But I was saying that to saylike, even back in 22, the
amount of people that acted likeJalen Hurts did not deserve to
be in the same conversation asthose guys.
Two years ago, when he had anMVP season two years ago,
everybody was like trying tofigure out is Dak Prescott still

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better than him After the yearhe had in 22?
So I'm like, what are we doing?

D.K. (18:48):
Prescott where's that Prescott?
Better than anyone.
I'm just asking that shouldhave been out of Dallas, been
gone oh god, I'm just.

T.J. (19:01):
I'm just saying, like the converse, the discourse when it
comes to jalen hurts over theyears has drove me insane and I
and I will say this too I am nota jalen hurts apologist.
Okay, there are times where hestinks up the joint and I and I
I had no problem being criticalwhen need be, right last time, I

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the only thing I know about him, since he's been the starting
quarterback of the PhiladelphiaEagles, is that his team wins,
and his team wins often Everysingle year that he's been a
starter of the PhiladelphiaEagles Playoffs.

D.K. (19:37):
To the point.
Y'all are in New Orleans rightnow.
Thank you, nobody else.
Thank you, you else.
Thank you, you and Kansas City.
Y'all are that good that y'allare playing for the Lombardi
Trophy tonight, tonight.

T.J. (19:51):
Thank you.

D.K. (19:52):
And I damn sure hope y'all win, I'm going to keep harping
on this.

T.J. (19:59):
I'm just saying, man.

D.K. (20:00):
I'm showing my biasness.
Yes, I want Philly to win.
Okay, my team ain't there.
But I damn sure no one can seethe win Because I will never
hear the end of this.
All season, all the way up tofootball season starts again, I
won't hear the end of this.

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Then, oh, we got another parade.
I'm tired, I am Kansas Cityfatigued?
okay, I am, and I just workedover the weekend and, of course,
what am I seeing on the planes?
Kansas City, kansas City,kansas City, kansas City, kansas

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City.
When I texted you, I told you,I said, man, we got a whole
bunch of Eagles coming back.
I was like, yes, whole bunch ofEagles fans.
I'm like, yeah, I said I pray,y'all beat them, pray, y'all
beat them.
I'm tired of them.
They got to go.
Somebody got to knock them downa peg.
Y'all are the only savior left.

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Okay, of peg.
Y'all are the only savior left.
Okay, the only savior, onlysavior.
And, matter of fact, I'm gonnagive you a score 37, 34.
Philadelphia.

T.J. (21:12):
Okay, I'm giving, I'm getting wow I think it's gonna
be a high scoring game 37, 34philly okay, and I think sake,
one's probably gonna be your mvp37-34.

D.K. (21:23):
Philly Okay.
And I think Saquon's probablygoing to be your MVP.

T.J. (21:30):
Look, I was telling my dad this the other day because he
said the exact same thing.
He says the Eagles win thisgame and Saquon wins MVP.
And I told him him, if thathappens, the whole conversation
and everybody be like aren't wedone talking about the Giants
and Saquon Barkley?

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We're past it now aren't weI'll let you in on a little
secret All offseason long Irepeat, all offseason long
You're going to be hearing the,the Giants and Saquon all season

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long.
You couldn't pay this guy $13million.

D.K. (22:18):
But hey, I gotta go out and shout out to Sharon real
fast, Sharon, happy birthday toyou.
Happy birthday to you, Sharon.
Yeah, happy birthday.
Gotta give that shout out toher.

T.J. (22:31):
Well, I'm giving her a birthday today.

D.K. (22:34):
So, but man, let me tell you, like I said, as long as
it's not Kansas City, I'm happy,as long as it's not Kansas City
, hey.
But we got two Steelers fans inhere, Tish and now Sharon, oh
God, and I think we can allagree collectively we don't want
Kansas City to win this game.

T.J. (22:57):
I mean, look man, again, like, we're kind of like.
A lot of people, I guess, arenot doing it now because, I
don't know, they're just tryingto give the giants a break.
But here's the reason why thiswill last all off season long.

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Okay, it will last all offseason long because, literally,
literally it would be.
It wouldn't even be aconversation if they fired the
head coach Well, not even thehead coach, because I don't even
think the head coach is theproblem.
If they fired the GM and theowner stepped down One of the

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two, if either one of the twohappened, I don't think this is
any more of a conversationanymore.
Okay, we would laugh about it.
If he wins MVP, be like ha-ha,he got y'all fired, cool about
it.
If he wins mvp, be like haha,he got y'all fired, cool.
It's the fact that them two arestill in the giants
headquarters today.
They still have a job.
He's still the gm, he's stillthe owner, he's still the head

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coach.
None of that changed, evenafter the season he had.
So so if Saquon wins MVP andthe Eagles wins this game, oh my
God.

D.K. (24:17):
How do you keep them in?
When do the Eagles win thisgame?
When the Eagles?
Nah, we not talking if when theEagles win this game, they need
to go down there and tear thefur off of them.
Tear the fur off of them oh mygod I mean first set.

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I mean just beat the bricks.
Aj brown needs to go off,jaylen needs to be on on point
saquon, just run amok to him,because when that defensive line
starts getting tired, you canstart taking more advantage of
them.
Mm-hmm, that's right, mm-hmm.

T.J. (25:00):
And they better stop Chris Jones.

D.K. (25:02):
Oh, I think we'll do, actually, I think we did a solid
job last time.
Tear the feathers, that's right.
I mean tear the fur off of them, I mean stop on mud, hole them
and walk it dry.
That's the point I'm at.

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Uh-oh, I lost my boy.
He'll be back in a second.
Again, this whole, I'm KansasCity fatigued.
If any Kansas City fans are onhere, I'm not apologizing,
because again, this is a problem, an anomaly that we have to
stop, and Philly has the chanceto do that.

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To stop this three-peat, tostop all this.
Kansas City, oh, kansas City,we're the greatest of all time
time.
And blah, blah, blah, no, blah,blah, blah yourself up out of
here.
I'm tired of it, we're alltired of it.
But again, like my sister saidearlier, it's Philly against the
refs and we're going to see howthis is all going to play out.

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If it's going to be the illegalformations, is it going to be,
oh, a fake pass, interference,call on offense.
Come on now, give me a break orthey just get in the way with
calls.
Oh, I didn't see that holdingcall.
Look, we're tired.
We want a great game tonight.
We all want to celebrate, weall want to have a great game

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and these refs not get involved.
Now again, if kansas city goesout there and tear the fair off
of me, it's nothing I can do ifphilly can't stop them.
But we all pulling for philly,we all riding for philly,
especially the tragedies thathappen up there.
So they have a lot of emotionthat they're going through up
there.
They're riding that emotion allway down into new orleans and
they're gonna ride it onto thefield and they're riding that
emotion all the way down intoNew Orleans and they're going to
ride it onto the field andthey're going to ride it all the

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way to that Lombardi trophy andraise it and bring it back and
unite that city up there Againwith the incident that happened
up there.
Like I said, my thoughts andprayers was out to them for that
.
But Philadelphia Eagles has alot of emotion with them.
So I think it's going to be adifferent story motion with them
.
So I think it's going to be adifferent story.
I don't think it's going to bea second time.
The kansas city's going to beatthem.

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But all the kansas city fansdisagree with me.
I've been battling with themall weekend about this, so
trying to see if he's going tocome back in here.
But again, I made my picks forit.
I said 37, 34.
Billy wins the game.
I think it is going to be highscoring and even though they
both have great defenses, I justdon't think they'll be able to

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completely shut each other down.
So it probably will be ahigh-scoring game because you
can't never count out Mahomes,whatever, even though he threw a
whole bunch of picks this year.
Hopefully he throws some picksin this game and that way,
philly, just keep it going andas long as we don't have a
fourth and one play and theytalk about the tush push didn't
work.
Yeah, it'd probably be a ridedown there in new Orleans, but

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again, that's my picks.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate it.
I think he might've had someinternet problems over there.
I'm going to go ahead and jumpoff of here, but hey, listen had

(28:22):
some internet problems overthere.

T.J. (28:23):
I'm gonna go ahead and jump off of here, but hey,
listen, anybody tuned in?
Thank you, oh, there he is.
Wait a minute, let's see.

D.K. (28:27):
Let's see there he is, he's back.
Don't you tell me the league istrying to shut me down.
Oh, they are.
Yeah, absolutely.
How dare they.

T.J. (28:33):
Yeah.

D.K. (28:34):
Oh my God, I want to get your two cents in here.

T.J. (28:41):
Man, I was just saying man , like I was saying earlier,
saquon winning MVP like will.
I was saying earlier, saquonwinning MVP like will.
This kind of makes it ironicwould be the equivalent of

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Kendrick Lamar's.
It really would.
Not Kendrick Lamar go where,every chance he gets of his
opposition, every chance he gets, he's going to take so much

(29:22):
pride, have so much fun with it,and I can't wait.

D.K. (29:35):
I don't know what's going on here.
Hey, listen, you have somedifficulties over there, but
that's okay, we're workingthrough this.
But I just got a text.
I guess my auntie's watching.
I got to give her a birthdayshout-out too.
So, happy birthday to my aunt.
She was like, hey, where's mybirthday shout-out?
I didn't see you.
Well, happy birthday to you,aunt.
Because she was like, hey,where's my birthday?
I was like I ain't see you.
Well, happy birthday to you,auntie.

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So, but no, like I said, I hopey'all just go turtle, for I'm
talking about from beginning toend just turtle for all of them.
I hope Nick Sirianni just opensup playbooks, matter of fact, I
wouldn't be mad if he did thewhole New England thing and was
taking people's plays and justusing them Whatever it takes to
beat Kansas City United.
That's what we need to do,plain and simple.

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They need to be beaten.
Oh, my boy then got cut offagain.
Tell you, boy, these Wi-Fiproblems it's all good, but
again I'm just going to go aheadand cut it off.
But again, everybody enjoy theSuper Bowl, no matter where you
are.
Like I said, I'm riding withPhilly, even though my team's

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not there.
I'm riding with Philly, anybodybut Kansas City.
But we're going to find out ina couple hours.
We're going to jump back onhere too and talk about the game
.
Also, we're going to talk aboutthe halftime show too, because
you know that's always fun.
Anyway, I hope you tuned in.
Thank you, we'll see y'allafter the Super Bowl.
Everybody enjoy the Super Bowlnight and, like I said, make

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your picks, because it's goingto be one hell of a game.
Go Eagles.