February 5, 2024 • 33 mins
Join Jay and Angi in a myth-busting episode as we sprint through the most common running myths and bring you the truth straight from the track. From debunking the one-size-fits-all training approach to unraveling misconceptions about gear, diet, and form, we tackle the tall tales that can sideline runners. But here's the kicker – it's not just about debunking myths; it's about empowering you to find what truly works for your unique running journey. Tune in as we lace up to clear the path to your personal best, reminding you that in running, as in life, it's your race, your pace.
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
All right, welcome back everybody to another
episode of the Do Our Thingspodcast.
I'm JT because you're runningcoach, certified mindset coach
coming to you, live from Floridaand I'm in studio with a lovely
Angie Petran.
Angie, how are you doing thismorning?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm great it's Monday .
I'm ready to go forth and kicksome Tajimiles.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Since we're on the move today.
We're going to pick up.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Great, it's going great.
I got seven miles in yesterday.
I am focusing on, yeah, youknow okay.
So people that hear 100 milesin the month of February are
like there's no way I can dothat, bro.
I'm doing it walking becauseI'm not trying to injure myself
and I know me and I'm comingback from being injured and not
steady like consistentlytraining, and so I'm walking
(01:29):
most of my miles and I've got itall mapped out through the end
of the month.
I'm doing it, so there's noexcuse.
Really, Make sure I'm working.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm not going to do that.
Oh, that's a shit.
We're debunking myths thismorning.
No, you do what you can and I'mhaving like a hip impingement
right now, so some of my milesare going to be walking.
I had to walk a little bityesterday.
But you do what you can you?
do what you can with what yougot, and that's it.
(02:00):
I was able.
I'm getting a slow startbecause we had to go to Tybee
Island and it was one run festin Tybee Island and we're part
of the Ultramax crew out ofColumbia, so we had to go time
and although we saw a lot ofrunners running, we didn't get
to run much because it's a fullblown, I don't know, just
(02:21):
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That was super cool.
We got a couple of miles in dayone.
We had to fly into Tybee andthen.
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But we got to kick that off andnow we're in Florida.
We did a couple of miles in.
(03:06):
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So as far as this week.
So Angie and I wanted to talkabout myths and we found an
article on inrunnersworldcomthat had 13 common myths.
And as I read this, I calledAngie.
(04:33):
I'm like, look, I saw somethingin here.
I'm finding there's a.
In the health and wellness space, there seems to be like new
articles that come out all thetime that are constantly
contradicting each other.
Like glass of wine is good, andthen, like a few months later
you'll see well, a glass of wineis bad for you.
(04:53):
Ice baths are good, ice bathsare bad.
And we're like well, what?
How are we supposed to navigatethis constant conflict of
information?
And we live in this incredibletime where we have so much
information at our fingertips,which is amazing, but in the
health and wellness spaceespecially, I think it causes so
(05:14):
much confusion and we just kindof want to roll through some of
these, talk about ourperspectives on it, maybe give
you, the listener, some ideas tothink about, and we would love
to hear back what you thinkabout, if there was a specific
myth that we talk about today,that that you have a strong
feeling about, or how do younavigate the challenges of
(05:35):
information overload.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
on that, angie.
So my thoughts are it yes, theinternet is makes things
incredibly.
Thanks¸ mówi¸§ at yourfingertips, like there's
whatever you need to know.
You can go, you can go figure,you can go Google it, look it up
, right.
But the problem is, is noweverybody's an expert?
You got social media and youreally just need to find a
(06:02):
credible source for yourinformation and you need to make
sure that this, your source, isup to date on the newest and
latest studies that they're thatthey are getting their
information from, from.
You know science-based factsand studies, and not just, well,
this is what worked for me.
(06:23):
That'll give me wrong.
Sharing what works for youhelps others, but you can't take
that to the grave and youalways need to understand that
what worked for one persondoesn't necessarily mean that's
gonna work for you.
So I'm just just to quicklyanswer your question Get your,
get a credible source, make surethey're up to date on on the
latest, the latest findings andthe latest you know, things that
(06:48):
have been done to figure outwhat you're trying to trying to
learn and know and understand,and then Apply it and see if it
works for you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think something you said there kind of remind me
like people are very, very.
If they have a health andwellness Method that works for
them, they'll die on themountain, like.
Like just trying to geteveryone else to believe that
that is the way.
Yeah, yeah, I see a lot ofpeople get a lot of heated
debates and what.
Like you said, well, it worksfor one person may not work for
(07:18):
someone else.
The human body is really we're,it's so.
It's so incredible how manypeople are on this planet and
we're so uniquely Different fromone another and so you just
kind of.
You just kind of figure out whatworks for you and then stay on
top of the research, findcredible people to your point.
So let's get through some ofthese myths, let's see what okay
, what we say, what we'll comeup with.
So the first one there's anideal running form that will
(07:42):
solve all of your problems.
Who say ideal running form thatwill solve all of your problems
?
And Really, what this one istalking about is that Our
running mechanics are probably aresult of our anatomy, our
injury history and runninghistory.
I'm a pose method runninginstructor.
You are as well, are you, angie?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
No, I'm not pose.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I thought you were pose, okay, I I.
That is specifically a Methodto teach a person how to run the
pose method, which is a very,very specific methodology and it
does work for a lot of people.
But there's also, like the chirunning method.
There's there's a few differentlike techniques that'll help
you.
But what I found with runnersis it is it can be incredibly
(08:30):
difficult to adjust someone'sbody mechanics when they have
years and years of, I mean,injured, like they could have
running related injuries theycould have.
You know there are anatomies aredifferent.
Like I'm 6-4.
I'm kind of a Clydesdale.
You have a completely differentanatomy for you.
(08:51):
You have some people that tendto be heel strikers versus, you
know, midfoot strikers and, andso these techniques Can help you
improve your form, but there'snot like one specific form
that's gonna solve everyrunner's problems and there's a
lot of when I think of this aswell as like there's a lot of
methodologies and thoughts inChew, like choosing the right
(09:14):
shoe, do you choose a zero drop?
You go with the hook, you knowrunning on pillows, addition,
you know there's there's a widevariety of different things and,
once again, I think you know inthis realm you should work on
form aspects of your form, butthere's not one form that's
going to solve all of yourelements.
If you have, you know needchallenges and back challenges
(09:37):
and things like that, form aloneis not going to solve your
problem.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, and I also think it's, you know, ideal
worth looking into.
If you are having some type ofpain in your knees or your hips
or your joints, I really thinkyou should start with a physical
therapist.
And so I mean, I had a.
I have a really good physicaltherapist and he's very he he
stays up on the latestscientific findings but he's
(10:02):
very much, you know, let's startat your feet and figure out
what's wrong there and work ourway up, and, you know, a lot of
times it just comes down tostrengthening the muscles,
starting from the bottom, goingup, and just, you know, maybe
your muscles you need to work onthat, you know, versus on
trying to work on how you'rechanging the actual way you run.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, flexibility, I know, a few years back, when I
did 75 hard and I started doingyoga more consistently, it
unlocked my you know posteriorchain and I was able, for a long
time I couldn't run more than ahalf marathon without like
complete injury, like shinsplints.
But when I unlocked, you know,my hip flexors and that chain,
(10:46):
I'm now able to run, you know,and we run like a couple of 50
K's.
And I've also learned that whenwe go to the gym to lift, you
know, a lot of my lifting was,you know, dead lifts and squats
and big major muscles.
And what I've learned is thatdoing some of those sillier
(11:06):
exercises, like the SuzanneSummers, like you know, leg
openers and clams and thingslike that, they don't look, they
look kind of silly, but youhave a lot of like smaller
muscles in there that aregetting worked when you run and
you've got to strengthen thoseand you can't really attack
those when you are, you know,doing the bigger lifts and so
(11:26):
doing some of that work.
That's not, you know, it's notgoing to make you your legs look
amazing, but they're going tohelp you with your ability to
run and stay injury free, anddoing that work is incredibly
important.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There's a little routine.
I have my runner do thestrength and mobility.
If you look on YouTube the SAMroutine, it's like 10 or 15
minutes, like it's not excitingbut it does.
It does keep you injury free andthat works all those old
muscles and stretches out allthose little ligaments that you
got, because I'm having issuesright now, Like I got a hip
impingement and it's like if I'mlaying on my side and doing a
(12:03):
leg opener, I'm finding I've gotsome weak muscles in there and
it's causing some challengesright now.
So I got to work on that.
But yeah, physical therapist,chiropractor, find people and
find people that are medicalprofessionals who run.
If you can, that's yes, get it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That makes a huge difference, because I had a GP,
a general practitioner, who wasa runner, and when I and I'm so
sad that he retired, but when Iwould go to him, it was never
well, you just need to stoprunning, you know, you're just
going to have to stop running.
It was always let's figure outhow to get you better so you can
continue movement, so you cancontinue running.
(12:43):
Because he knew movement iswhat is?
I mean it is.
I was listening to a podcast theother day and Sean Stevenson
from the Model Health Show andhe's a doctor and he is just,
they used to think they used toprescribe bed rest as a way to
get better, and they've justfound out over the years that
(13:06):
that is absolutely positivelynot true.
I mean, okay, yeah, in somecases, right, but in most cases,
movement is key.
Movement is key to healing,movement is key to longevity.
Movement is key.
And so when these you know it,just I can, I'm not going to go
on a tangent about the medicalprofessionals that tell you to
stop moving because you're inpain.
(13:26):
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
So let's, let's move on beforeI start doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I will say one thing a few years ago I had a doctor
that told me you're in your like, you're getting in your forties
.
Now maybe you should start totake it easy, because I had some
knee pain and I'm like youmight as well just put me in
your capacitor.
If I can't run, just amputateit and give me another leg,
because this is my way of life.
You're going to tell me I'm notslowing down, like I'm not
stopping, yeah, so help mefigure that out.
And this guy was overweight.
(13:53):
I saw one before I got in theroom.
He was drinking a mountain dew.
Like here's a healthprofessional.
I can't take you serious, like,yeah, so I'm going to get
another opinion.
So to that point, fine, it'sincredibly important to find
medical professionals that arerunners themselves to say get it
, yeah, that exercise, yes, allright, here's one.
(14:16):
running ruins your knees.
How many times have you heardthat one?
I've heard that one Runningruins your knees.
Fact according to this article,your knees get stronger.
Running actually protect yourknees against the development of
osteoarthritis, while non lightrunners have about a third of
the rate of neosteoritis assedentary individuals.
The more research learned aboutcartilage, the elastic tissue
(14:41):
that protects our joints, themore those results make sense.
Cartilage is like any otherliving structure that it gets
stronger with continual loadingand so when you run, you stress
the cartilage in your joints and, like muscles, the cartilage
recovers and strengthens afterworkouts.
So bottom line is it goes backto I think movement is good for
the body.
Yes, running can be hard on theknees.
(15:03):
The running is hard on yourbody in general, but this is
where muscle strength andconditioning and flexibility
work is incredibly important todo while you run so you mitigate
the injury.
What I tell my runners, likethose warm up drills that you do
, the lunges and the workafterwards.
It's like brushing your teethor paying your taxes.
You may not like doing it, butit's going to keep you in the
(15:26):
game.
It's going to keep you injuryfree.
It's no one enjoys brushingtheir teeth.
You don't look forward to it,but it's like it's work that you
have to do.
Brush the teeth you want tokeep is what I tell my kids, and
it's that work that will keepyou running.
But yeah, running is hard onthe body, but also not running
(15:46):
and working out is also hard onthe body.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Choose your heart, yeah, but also I think that goes
back to running knowing whatsurfaces your body feels best
running on, because some peoplerunning on pavement that has a
little bit more of an impact andmaybe that doesn't feel so
great on your joints.
It makes you feel more tired.
So maybe you need to run on atrail.
(16:12):
You know a non-pavement onconcrete surface.
If you feel like when you'rerunning that you're having that
pain in your knees or yourjoints, then that's what goes
back to.
That's maybe when you mightwant to consider what does my
form look like?
Do I need to tweak that alittle bit?
How can I tweak that and do itnaturally and make that and
(16:35):
integrate that into my runningpattern as a habit, versus just
trying to change your formbecause you just want to go
faster, right, I mean?
I think that's where theselittle things go hand-in-hand,
where they marry one another,and that's where you start
looking at making those thoselittle tweaks and changes, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Absolutely one of the quickest tweaks that you could
make for runners, that is, workon your cadence.
Like cadence is how many, howmany times your foot strikes the
ground in a minute.
You want to shoot for 180,which is super, super high.
Kind of goes back to the posemethodology that the idea is the
more that you turn over, themore your whole legs and your
(17:15):
body is like a shock in a carand the more efficient you can
make that the less strain andstress that you put on any
particular body part.
So if you can increase yourefficiency it can help reduce
the injury rate and wear andtear on certain components of
(17:37):
your leg, just like your car.
You're gonna like this nextmyth because we kind of talked,
we kind of hit this one offright, right off the bat.
Walking is weak.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I knew it.
I knew that's what I was like.
I hope you choose this one next.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Walking is weak Fact.
Walking can indeed make youfaster.
Angie, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yes, absolutely, walking can make you faster.
If you don't know about theGalway method, you should.
You should look it up.
The Galway method, the, it iswalking and running.
You walk for a specific amountof time and you run for a
specific amount of time, and youknow.
It's so funny because it's sohard to get people to understand
(18:21):
that you are still a runner.
If you incorporate walk breaksin your running, what, wait,
what?
Yeah, I can't believe it.
No, I'm not a runner, I had towalk.
Yeah, you're still a runner,you're still a runner.
Walking during aid stations, ithelps.
It helps you recover a littlebit faster when you, when you do
(18:42):
interval running and I'mtalking about interval running,
I'm not talking about all out100, you know doing, doing like
just max every time.
I'm talking about just goingout and running 45 seconds and
walking for 30, you know, for 10miles that helps that lactic
acid not build up as quickly inyour muscles.
(19:03):
That helps you recover a lotfaster.
And when you incorporateinterval running, which is
walking, incorporating walkinginto your running cycle, if you
want to go out and you want torun a marathon faster, you can
run faster.
Or half marathon, or 10k or 15k, you can actually run faster
(19:25):
doing this method, doing theGalway method.
So yeah, it's one of myfavorites.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and and when I have runners do their quality
sessions to like a slow jog oreven a walk and help you recover
in between those intervals.
So when you can downshift andtake that momentary break, you
recover quicker, you teach yourbody to recover quicker and then
you can run harder when youneed to run harder.
And, and that's one thing youknow, the marathon is incredibly
(19:55):
tough because you're running 26miles on Pavement and I used to
think that, man, because I ranrunning a couple marathon.
So it's so hard that ultra runslike I can't believe people do
more than 26 miles.
It's actually to me it's easierto run a 50k six more miles,
than it is a marathon distanceand on on, because usually when
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you're running these altarsthey're typically out on trail,
somewhere they're, they're offthe beaten path.
They're actually easier to runbecause you can take those
momentary walk breaks whenyou're walking up the hill or
down the hill or you're not onpavement.
And and the the best runnersyou know in in these races you
know they all walk a little bit.
(20:41):
So, and and part of the when Ido my active recovery day, you
know a 40, a 20 to 45 minutesswift walk is a really great way
to to recover the body.
So Walking is weak as bullshit.
We debunked it.
It's and and you gotta let yourego go that that's really what
(21:02):
it is.
It's it's if you're, if you'reafraid to be seen walking, it's
your ego getting in the way.
No one really cares what you'redoing.
Just get out there and move thebody, and I'm finding it far
more enjoyable.
I walk in parts of my trainingand especially when I'm hanging,
when I'm doing a social run, Iwant to hang out with my friends
and they're walking or doingintervals.
I don't care, I don't care.
Someone's seeing me.
Jays, after walking, what itdoesn't matter.
(21:26):
Just move the body smooth by yes, so yeah, and and I Love
rucking and that's walking withessentially a weighted backpack
that burns more calories anddoes a tremendous amount there's
a tremendous amount of valueand strength training that goes
along with doing that.
So walking is weak debunked.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh no, I was just like womp, Womp, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I See here was next.
I'm not ready to race.
I'm not ready to race.
Fact racing is for everyone andyou don't have to PR to have a
good time.
A lot of people put a lot ofpressure on racing and that
they're just not ready.
But I look at racing like thisweekend, just yeah, you've got
(22:13):
your people that are hardcore.
They're out there trying to getthe PR and they're running hard
and they're on a team and itcan be intimidating, but I love
just seeing the people in theback that are just out.
There might be their first race, so they're just out there
having a good time, right?
So you don't have to PR.
It doesn't have to be achallenge.
It's about the event and theexperience and for us, as you
(22:37):
know, had a lot of experienceputting on racing and timing.
Yeah, we love watching thecompetitive runners come through
quick, but I also love the momout there.
You know, push in the stroller.
Or the person who has cancerthat's, you know, one of the
last ones across the line.
You know the person that'sdropped a whole bunch of weight
is making a change.
That's more inspirational when,when most of the Crowd is gone
(23:00):
and the clapping is, there's noone out there to clap.
It's usually those moments atthe very tail end of the race
that are more emotional, likeDaniel Barnes when he did the
Frog Hill the last couple years.
He lost his legs and, you know,comes across like a few hours
after everyone is already goneunder the.
(23:20):
You know we bring out a truckwith headlights, you know.
So, yeah, that is so incrediblyinspirational and so you don't
have to race to participate in arace.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
So I'm just gonna say that people who push strollers
during a race have superpowers.
I mean, like I push my dogseveral times, my ten-town dog
and her stroller and I thought Iwas gonna die much less push
multiple 20 or 30 pound humansin a stroller.
You all have superpowers and Ijust I'm always in awe of you.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, lacey's running her first marathon in April.
She wanted to run a marathonthis year, so we chose US Marine
Corps, because that's that'sthe one that's been on our
bucket list for a lot of time.
And I'm like hey we got enoughtime to do a marathon beforehand
.
So, before we go for time and Ialways tell my runners this
your first race I don't want youto carry a watch, I don't want
you to do anything, but justenjoy the moment.
(24:23):
And that's what we're doingwith with Lacey's first one.
We're gonna, we were gonna do.
We decided to go to Nashvillebecause it's the rock and roll
and what better way.
And so we're just gonna go andjust have a good time.
There's no time, worries, we'rejust gonna go and enjoy the
bands that are playing it'ssupposed to be a lot of fun and
just go for the party.
We're not going for the PR,we're going for the party in the
(24:45):
finish and that's that's it.
That's our point.
Of that particular run, marineCorps might try to go for a
little bit.
That's probably gonna beanother one.
We're gonna enjoy theenvironment, then we're gonna
find one that we can actually gorace, and so, yeah, go, just
have a good time with it.
Enjoy, yeah, enjoy life forwhat it is.
Yeah, all right, let's see whatother we got time for.
(25:05):
Like one more myth one moreOkay.
Carbs are good, carbs are bad,fat is good, fat is bad.
We think about fueling.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay.
So fueling Everybody'sindividual needs are different.
You need to find what works foryou while training.
So your training runs are meantto find out Well, they're meant
to train Okay, number one, buttwo, they're meant to figure out
what shoes work best for you,what gear works best for you,
what fueling and hydrationmethod works best for you.
(25:36):
So you don't change up and dosomething new on race day.
Do not change up and dosomething new on race day.
Do not change up and dosomething new on race day just
because you saw it at the expodoesn't mean you need to try it
on race day.
Okay, just kills me when peopledo that, oh my god.
Anyway, I'm fueling everyone'sdifferent.
If you're an intermittent,faster, maybe you get up and
(25:58):
drink a Cup of coffee and youhave your water and you go out
and you run for an hour andyou're good, like maybe that's
how your body operates.
Or maybe, like me, I get up anddrink some water, drink some
coffee, have a cheese stick, ahandful of nuts, and I'm good
for about 45 minutes.
And then, every 45 minutes andthese are long run days, guys,
(26:19):
I'm talking about long run daysThen every 30 to 45 minutes, I'm
gonna have a goo gel packbecause that's what works for me
and does not upset my stomach.
Short runs, less than threemiles, I don't.
I mean I've.
I've Listen to enough podcastfrom from Reliable medical
(26:40):
doctors who you, most peopledon't need a whole bunch of fuel
before a 5k, before three miles.
You know, unless you, unlessyou're a back of the packer and
it's your first one and you'restill, you know, if you're, if
you're gonna finish it, it mighttake you an hour.
My first 5k took me 52 minutes.
I needed something, I needed alittle bit of extras.
(27:02):
It was in the summer, I waslosing electrolytes, I was
sweating, I was about a hundredpounds overweight and so, yes,
in that instance, my body Inthat moment in time needed extra
electrolytes, needed, neededthe extra boost.
But someone like Jay who atthat time could probably what?
What is your?
What is your 5k pace, jay, now,and probably around, 20 20
(27:27):
minutes for 5k that's wherematter, yeah you.
You probably don't need anyextra fuel for a 5k right so.
Yeah, so you need to look atthe distance you're going, you
need to look at your individualspecific needs and you need to
tweak that while you aretraining.
That's that's.
That's that's my.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, that's what your training runs are all about
is the opportunities to use thesame food and fuel and
equipment that you're Going touse on race day.
I know my very first marathon.
I was cocky and this is backwhen I was running.
I mean I was still runningthose down like the 16 minute
5ks.
I was a really fast 5 and 10krunner.
Now like how marathon, I gotthis in the bag right, okay, I
(28:10):
can do this.
I Did all the wrong things.
I got a brand new pair of shoesfrom the expo Because I'm like
they're gonna have food out onthe course.
They got bananas.
They got propel.
I never drank propel.
This is what propel was like.
New, I'm good to go.
I was good for about the first13 miles and then the wheels
(28:31):
just fell apart.
I completely exploded.
I mean, I did the run walk, myfeet hurt, I had blisters so
freakin bad.
And my pride.
I was like man.
I am what the what is happeningto me?
Yeah, found another.
Some Friend of mine gave me abanana and a goo and they got me
by for a little bit and thenlater I saw that someone was
(28:51):
pointing, a bunch of people werepointing at me.
I looked down, I had blood allover my shirt because my nipples
were bleeding.
I was, I was a train wreck.
It was an absolute disaster.
And I'm like, wow, and just youknow, like in good, do hard
things fashion, I learned thingsthe hard way.
I'm like, okay, I've got a.
Really this is completely.
I have to learn somemethodologies here and train
properly.
And that's where I learned okay, don't buy things at the expo,
(29:14):
no new equipment On race day.
That goes with adventure,racing on a cycling or anything.
Anytime I've tried anything new,it does not work out.
And it goes the same with foodand fuel.
You gotta be very, very carefulbecause you get caught up in
the moment.
There's people on the sidelinestrying to give you food or new
it.
You got it, you're.
You've been training for solong and the body is so fickle
(29:37):
sometimes some people are moresensitive than others that, yeah
, you gotta be careful with that, but we need fuel and and you
need to train and and this isone of those things some people
can take goose.
I can't take goose and live offthem, so okay it's.
This is one of those areas.
You got to experiment with yourbody and you got to do it
during training.
So yes.
Yes, so carbs are good, carbsare bad, fat is whatever, I
(30:00):
don't know who no one knows.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't think any.
Yes, yes, that is a yes to that.
That is a yes to that.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yes, they're good, yes they're bad, who knows, try
it, try, run your own race.
So, yeah, all right.
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Keep doing them.
So that's it.
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Yeah, how's your week looking?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
About to go get after it.
I'm looking like I got a lot of.
I've got my my training runsall mapped out through the end
of the month and I had apersonal trainer.
So I've got strength trainingmapped out and, yeah, yeah,
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because I'm focusing on myhealth and wellness.
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There you go, absolutely.
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So smile, make sure you smile,go make yourself smile, make
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All right, welcome back everybody to another
episode of the Do Our Thingspodcast.
I'm JT because you're runningcoach, certified mindset coach
coming to you, live from Floridaand I'm in studio with a lovely
Angie Petran.
Angie, how are you doing thismorning?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm great it's Monday .
I'm ready to go forth and kicksome Tajimiles.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Since we're on the move today.
We're going to pick up.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Great, it's going great.
I got seven miles in yesterday.
I am focusing on, yeah, youknow okay.
So people that hear 100 milesin the month of February are
like there's no way I can dothat, bro.
I'm doing it walking becauseI'm not trying to injure myself
and I know me and I'm comingback from being injured and not
steady like consistentlytraining, and so I'm walking
(01:29):
most of my miles and I've got itall mapped out through the end
of the month.
I'm doing it, so there's noexcuse.
Really, Make sure I'm working.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm not going to do that.
Oh, that's a shit.
We're debunking myths thismorning.
No, you do what you can and I'mhaving like a hip impingement
right now, so some of my milesare going to be walking.
I had to walk a little bityesterday.
But you do what you can you?
do what you can with what yougot, and that's it.
(02:00):
I was able.
I'm getting a slow startbecause we had to go to Tybee
Island and it was one run festin Tybee Island and we're part
of the Ultramax crew out ofColumbia, so we had to go time
and although we saw a lot ofrunners running, we didn't get
to run much because it's a fullblown, I don't know, just
(02:21):
nonstop working for like 20, 48hours.
That was super cool.
We got a couple of miles in dayone.
We had to fly into Tybee andthen.
Run fest is awesome.
If you ever get a chance to go,you should go.
If you love medals, you'regoing to clean up so well
because they do a 5K on Fridaynight and then they do a 10K
first thing the next morning,followed by a half marathon,
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So if you, you can participate.
They're all individual races oryou can do them all and get six
medals, which is super cool andit's a really, really cool
event and a really cool location, so highly recommend it.
But we got to kick that off andnow we're in Florida.
We did a couple of miles in.
(03:06):
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So as far as this week.
So Angie and I wanted to talkabout myths and we found an
article on inrunnersworldcomthat had 13 common myths.
And as I read this, I calledAngie.
(04:33):
I'm like, look, I saw somethingin here.
I'm finding there's a.
In the health and wellness space, there seems to be like new
articles that come out all thetime that are constantly
contradicting each other.
Like glass of wine is good, andthen, like a few months later
you'll see well, a glass of wineis bad for you.
(04:53):
Ice baths are good, ice bathsare bad.
And we're like well, what?
How are we supposed to navigatethis constant conflict of
information?
And we live in this incredibletime where we have so much
information at our fingertips,which is amazing, but in the
health and wellness spaceespecially, I think it causes so
(05:14):
much confusion and we just kindof want to roll through some of
these, talk about ourperspectives on it, maybe give
you, the listener, some ideas tothink about, and we would love
to hear back what you thinkabout, if there was a specific
myth that we talk about today,that that you have a strong
feeling about, or how do younavigate the challenges of
(05:35):
information overload.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
on that, angie.
So my thoughts are it yes, theinternet is makes things
incredibly.
Thanks¸ mówi¸§ at yourfingertips, like there's
whatever you need to know.
You can go, you can go figure,you can go Google it, look it up
, right.
But the problem is, is noweverybody's an expert?
You got social media and youreally just need to find a
(06:02):
credible source for yourinformation and you need to make
sure that this, your source, isup to date on the newest and
latest studies that they're thatthey are getting their
information from, from.
You know science-based factsand studies, and not just, well,
this is what worked for me.
(06:23):
That'll give me wrong.
Sharing what works for youhelps others, but you can't take
that to the grave and youalways need to understand that
what worked for one persondoesn't necessarily mean that's
gonna work for you.
So I'm just just to quicklyanswer your question Get your,
get a credible source, make surethey're up to date on on the
latest, the latest findings andthe latest you know, things that
(06:48):
have been done to figure outwhat you're trying to trying to
learn and know and understand,and then Apply it and see if it
works for you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think something you said there kind of remind me
like people are very, very.
If they have a health andwellness Method that works for
them, they'll die on themountain, like.
Like just trying to geteveryone else to believe that
that is the way.
Yeah, yeah, I see a lot ofpeople get a lot of heated
debates and what.
Like you said, well, it worksfor one person may not work for
(07:18):
someone else.
The human body is really we're,it's so.
It's so incredible how manypeople are on this planet and
we're so uniquely Different fromone another and so you just
kind of.
You just kind of figure out whatworks for you and then stay on
top of the research, findcredible people to your point.
So let's get through some ofthese myths, let's see what okay
, what we say, what we'll comeup with.
So the first one there's anideal running form that will
(07:42):
solve all of your problems.
Who say ideal running form thatwill solve all of your problems
?
And Really, what this one istalking about is that Our
running mechanics are probably aresult of our anatomy, our
injury history and runninghistory.
I'm a pose method runninginstructor.
You are as well, are you, angie?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
No, I'm not pose.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I thought you were pose, okay, I I.
That is specifically a Methodto teach a person how to run the
pose method, which is a very,very specific methodology and it
does work for a lot of people.
But there's also, like the chirunning method.
There's there's a few differentlike techniques that'll help
you.
But what I found with runnersis it is it can be incredibly
(08:30):
difficult to adjust someone'sbody mechanics when they have
years and years of, I mean,injured, like they could have
running related injuries theycould have.
You know there are anatomies aredifferent.
Like I'm 6-4.
I'm kind of a Clydesdale.
You have a completely differentanatomy for you.
(08:51):
You have some people that tendto be heel strikers versus, you
know, midfoot strikers and, andso these techniques Can help you
improve your form, but there'snot like one specific form
that's gonna solve everyrunner's problems and there's a
lot of when I think of this aswell as like there's a lot of
methodologies and thoughts inChew, like choosing the right
(09:14):
shoe, do you choose a zero drop?
You go with the hook, you knowrunning on pillows, addition,
you know there's there's a widevariety of different things and,
once again, I think you know inthis realm you should work on
form aspects of your form, butthere's not one form that's
going to solve all of yourelements.
If you have, you know needchallenges and back challenges
(09:37):
and things like that, form aloneis not going to solve your
problem.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, and I also think it's, you know, ideal
worth looking into.
If you are having some type ofpain in your knees or your hips
or your joints, I really thinkyou should start with a physical
therapist.
And so I mean, I had a.
I have a really good physicaltherapist and he's very he he
stays up on the latestscientific findings but he's
(10:02):
very much, you know, let's startat your feet and figure out
what's wrong there and work ourway up, and, you know, a lot of
times it just comes down tostrengthening the muscles,
starting from the bottom, goingup, and just, you know, maybe
your muscles you need to work onthat, you know, versus on
trying to work on how you'rechanging the actual way you run.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, flexibility, I know, a few years back, when I
did 75 hard and I started doingyoga more consistently, it
unlocked my you know posteriorchain and I was able, for a long
time I couldn't run more than ahalf marathon without like
complete injury, like shinsplints.
But when I unlocked, you know,my hip flexors and that chain,
(10:46):
I'm now able to run, you know,and we run like a couple of 50
K's.
And I've also learned that whenwe go to the gym to lift, you
know, a lot of my lifting was,you know, dead lifts and squats
and big major muscles.
And what I've learned is thatdoing some of those sillier
(11:06):
exercises, like the SuzanneSummers, like you know, leg
openers and clams and thingslike that, they don't look, they
look kind of silly, but youhave a lot of like smaller
muscles in there that aregetting worked when you run and
you've got to strengthen thoseand you can't really attack
those when you are, you know,doing the bigger lifts and so
(11:26):
doing some of that work.
That's not, you know, it's notgoing to make you your legs look
amazing, but they're going tohelp you with your ability to
run and stay injury free, anddoing that work is incredibly
important.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There's a little routine.
I have my runner do thestrength and mobility.
If you look on YouTube the SAMroutine, it's like 10 or 15
minutes, like it's not excitingbut it does.
It does keep you injury free andthat works all those old
muscles and stretches out allthose little ligaments that you
got, because I'm having issuesright now, Like I got a hip
impingement and it's like if I'mlaying on my side and doing a
(12:03):
leg opener, I'm finding I've gotsome weak muscles in there and
it's causing some challengesright now.
So I got to work on that.
But yeah, physical therapist,chiropractor, find people and
find people that are medicalprofessionals who run.
If you can, that's yes, get it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That makes a huge difference, because I had a GP,
a general practitioner, who wasa runner, and when I and I'm so
sad that he retired, but when Iwould go to him, it was never
well, you just need to stoprunning, you know, you're just
going to have to stop running.
It was always let's figure outhow to get you better so you can
continue movement, so you cancontinue running.
(12:43):
Because he knew movement iswhat is?
I mean it is.
I was listening to a podcast theother day and Sean Stevenson
from the Model Health Show andhe's a doctor and he is just,
they used to think they used toprescribe bed rest as a way to
get better, and they've justfound out over the years that
(13:06):
that is absolutely positivelynot true.
I mean, okay, yeah, in somecases, right, but in most cases,
movement is key.
Movement is key to healing,movement is key to longevity.
Movement is key.
And so when these you know it,just I can, I'm not going to go
on a tangent about the medicalprofessionals that tell you to
stop moving because you're inpain.
(13:26):
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
So let's, let's move on beforeI start doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I will say one thing a few years ago I had a doctor
that told me you're in your like, you're getting in your forties
.
Now maybe you should start totake it easy, because I had some
knee pain and I'm like youmight as well just put me in
your capacitor.
If I can't run, just amputateit and give me another leg,
because this is my way of life.
You're going to tell me I'm notslowing down, like I'm not
stopping, yeah, so help mefigure that out.
And this guy was overweight.
(13:53):
I saw one before I got in theroom.
He was drinking a mountain dew.
Like here's a healthprofessional.
I can't take you serious, like,yeah, so I'm going to get
another opinion.
So to that point, fine, it'sincredibly important to find
medical professionals that arerunners themselves to say get it
, yeah, that exercise, yes, allright, here's one.
(14:16):
running ruins your knees.
How many times have you heardthat one?
I've heard that one Runningruins your knees.
Fact according to this article,your knees get stronger.
Running actually protect yourknees against the development of
osteoarthritis, while non lightrunners have about a third of
the rate of neosteoritis assedentary individuals.
The more research learned aboutcartilage, the elastic tissue
(14:41):
that protects our joints, themore those results make sense.
Cartilage is like any otherliving structure that it gets
stronger with continual loadingand so when you run, you stress
the cartilage in your joints and, like muscles, the cartilage
recovers and strengthens afterworkouts.
So bottom line is it goes backto I think movement is good for
the body.
Yes, running can be hard on theknees.
(15:03):
The running is hard on yourbody in general, but this is
where muscle strength andconditioning and flexibility
work is incredibly important todo while you run so you mitigate
the injury.
What I tell my runners, likethose warm up drills that you do
, the lunges and the workafterwards.
It's like brushing your teethor paying your taxes.
You may not like doing it, butit's going to keep you in the
(15:26):
game.
It's going to keep you injuryfree.
It's no one enjoys brushingtheir teeth.
You don't look forward to it,but it's like it's work that you
have to do.
Brush the teeth you want tokeep is what I tell my kids, and
it's that work that will keepyou running.
But yeah, running is hard onthe body, but also not running
(15:46):
and working out is also hard onthe body.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Choose your heart, yeah, but also I think that goes
back to running knowing whatsurfaces your body feels best
running on, because some peoplerunning on pavement that has a
little bit more of an impact andmaybe that doesn't feel so
great on your joints.
It makes you feel more tired.
So maybe you need to run on atrail.
(16:12):
You know a non-pavement onconcrete surface.
If you feel like when you'rerunning that you're having that
pain in your knees or yourjoints, then that's what goes
back to.
That's maybe when you mightwant to consider what does my
form look like?
Do I need to tweak that alittle bit?
How can I tweak that and do itnaturally and make that and
(16:35):
integrate that into my runningpattern as a habit, versus just
trying to change your formbecause you just want to go
faster, right, I mean?
I think that's where theselittle things go hand-in-hand,
where they marry one another,and that's where you start
looking at making those thoselittle tweaks and changes, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Absolutely one of the quickest tweaks that you could
make for runners, that is, workon your cadence.
Like cadence is how many, howmany times your foot strikes the
ground in a minute.
You want to shoot for 180,which is super, super high.
Kind of goes back to the posemethodology that the idea is the
more that you turn over, themore your whole legs and your
(17:15):
body is like a shock in a carand the more efficient you can
make that the less strain andstress that you put on any
particular body part.
So if you can increase yourefficiency it can help reduce
the injury rate and wear andtear on certain components of
(17:37):
your leg, just like your car.
You're gonna like this nextmyth because we kind of talked,
we kind of hit this one offright, right off the bat.
Walking is weak.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I knew it.
I knew that's what I was like.
I hope you choose this one next.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Walking is weak Fact.
Walking can indeed make youfaster.
Angie, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yes, absolutely, walking can make you faster.
If you don't know about theGalway method, you should.
You should look it up.
The Galway method, the, it iswalking and running.
You walk for a specific amountof time and you run for a
specific amount of time, and youknow.
It's so funny because it's sohard to get people to understand
(18:21):
that you are still a runner.
If you incorporate walk breaksin your running, what, wait,
what?
Yeah, I can't believe it.
No, I'm not a runner, I had towalk.
Yeah, you're still a runner,you're still a runner.
Walking during aid stations, ithelps.
It helps you recover a littlebit faster when you, when you do
(18:42):
interval running and I'mtalking about interval running,
I'm not talking about all out100, you know doing, doing like
just max every time.
I'm talking about just goingout and running 45 seconds and
walking for 30, you know, for 10miles that helps that lactic
acid not build up as quickly inyour muscles.
(19:03):
That helps you recover a lotfaster.
And when you incorporateinterval running, which is
walking, incorporating walkinginto your running cycle, if you
want to go out and you want torun a marathon faster, you can
run faster.
Or half marathon, or 10k or 15k, you can actually run faster
(19:25):
doing this method, doing theGalway method.
So yeah, it's one of myfavorites.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and and when I have runners do their quality
sessions to like a slow jog oreven a walk and help you recover
in between those intervals.
So when you can downshift andtake that momentary break, you
recover quicker, you teach yourbody to recover quicker and then
you can run harder when youneed to run harder.
And, and that's one thing youknow, the marathon is incredibly
(19:55):
tough because you're running 26miles on Pavement and I used to
think that, man, because I ranrunning a couple marathon.
So it's so hard that ultra runslike I can't believe people do
more than 26 miles.
It's actually to me it's easierto run a 50k six more miles,
than it is a marathon distanceand on on, because usually when
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you're running these altarsthey're typically out on trail,
somewhere they're, they're offthe beaten path.
They're actually easier to runbecause you can take those
momentary walk breaks whenyou're walking up the hill or
down the hill or you're not onpavement.
And and the the best runnersyou know in in these races you
know they all walk a little bit.
(20:41):
So, and and part of the when Ido my active recovery day, you
know a 40, a 20 to 45 minutesswift walk is a really great way
to to recover the body.
So Walking is weak as bullshit.
We debunked it.
It's and and you gotta let yourego go that that's really what
(21:02):
it is.
It's it's if you're, if you'reafraid to be seen walking, it's
your ego getting in the way.
No one really cares what you'redoing.
Just get out there and move thebody, and I'm finding it far
more enjoyable.
I walk in parts of my trainingand especially when I'm hanging,
when I'm doing a social run, Iwant to hang out with my friends
and they're walking or doingintervals.
I don't care, I don't care.
Someone's seeing me.
Jays, after walking, what itdoesn't matter.
(21:26):
Just move the body smooth by yes, so yeah, and and I Love
rucking and that's walking withessentially a weighted backpack
that burns more calories anddoes a tremendous amount there's
a tremendous amount of valueand strength training that goes
along with doing that.
So walking is weak debunked.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh no, I was just like womp, Womp, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I See here was next.
I'm not ready to race.
I'm not ready to race.
Fact racing is for everyone andyou don't have to PR to have a
good time.
A lot of people put a lot ofpressure on racing and that
they're just not ready.
But I look at racing like thisweekend, just yeah, you've got
(22:13):
your people that are hardcore.
They're out there trying to getthe PR and they're running hard
and they're on a team and itcan be intimidating, but I love
just seeing the people in theback that are just out.
There might be their first race, so they're just out there
having a good time, right?
So you don't have to PR.
It doesn't have to be achallenge.
It's about the event and theexperience and for us, as you
(22:37):
know, had a lot of experienceputting on racing and timing.
Yeah, we love watching thecompetitive runners come through
quick, but I also love the momout there.
You know, push in the stroller.
Or the person who has cancerthat's, you know, one of the
last ones across the line.
You know the person that'sdropped a whole bunch of weight
is making a change.
That's more inspirational when,when most of the Crowd is gone
(23:00):
and the clapping is, there's noone out there to clap.
It's usually those moments atthe very tail end of the race
that are more emotional, likeDaniel Barnes when he did the
Frog Hill the last couple years.
He lost his legs and, you know,comes across like a few hours
after everyone is already goneunder the.
(23:20):
You know we bring out a truckwith headlights, you know.
So, yeah, that is so incrediblyinspirational and so you don't
have to race to participate in arace.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
So I'm just gonna say that people who push strollers
during a race have superpowers.
I mean, like I push my dogseveral times, my ten-town dog
and her stroller and I thought Iwas gonna die much less push
multiple 20 or 30 pound humansin a stroller.
You all have superpowers and Ijust I'm always in awe of you.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, lacey's running her first marathon in April.
She wanted to run a marathonthis year, so we chose US Marine
Corps, because that's that'sthe one that's been on our
bucket list for a lot of time.
And I'm like hey we got enoughtime to do a marathon beforehand
.
So, before we go for time and Ialways tell my runners this
your first race I don't want youto carry a watch, I don't want
you to do anything, but justenjoy the moment.
(24:23):
And that's what we're doingwith with Lacey's first one.
We're gonna, we were gonna do.
We decided to go to Nashvillebecause it's the rock and roll
and what better way.
And so we're just gonna go andjust have a good time.
There's no time, worries, we'rejust gonna go and enjoy the
bands that are playing it'ssupposed to be a lot of fun and
just go for the party.
We're not going for the PR,we're going for the party in the
(24:45):
finish and that's that's it.
That's our point.
Of that particular run, marineCorps might try to go for a
little bit.
That's probably gonna beanother one.
We're gonna enjoy theenvironment, then we're gonna
find one that we can actually gorace, and so, yeah, go, just
have a good time with it.
Enjoy, yeah, enjoy life forwhat it is.
Yeah, all right, let's see whatother we got time for.
(25:05):
Like one more myth one moreOkay.
Carbs are good, carbs are bad,fat is good, fat is bad.
We think about fueling.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay.
So fueling Everybody'sindividual needs are different.
You need to find what works foryou while training.
So your training runs are meantto find out Well, they're meant
to train Okay, number one, buttwo, they're meant to figure out
what shoes work best for you,what gear works best for you,
what fueling and hydrationmethod works best for you.
(25:36):
So you don't change up and dosomething new on race day.
Do not change up and dosomething new on race day.
Do not change up and dosomething new on race day just
because you saw it at the expodoesn't mean you need to try it
on race day.
Okay, just kills me when peopledo that, oh my god.
Anyway, I'm fueling everyone'sdifferent.
If you're an intermittent,faster, maybe you get up and
(25:58):
drink a Cup of coffee and youhave your water and you go out
and you run for an hour andyou're good, like maybe that's
how your body operates.
Or maybe, like me, I get up anddrink some water, drink some
coffee, have a cheese stick, ahandful of nuts, and I'm good
for about 45 minutes.
And then, every 45 minutes andthese are long run days, guys,
(26:19):
I'm talking about long run daysThen every 30 to 45 minutes, I'm
gonna have a goo gel packbecause that's what works for me
and does not upset my stomach.
Short runs, less than threemiles, I don't.
I mean I've.
I've Listen to enough podcastfrom from Reliable medical
(26:40):
doctors who you, most peopledon't need a whole bunch of fuel
before a 5k, before three miles.
You know, unless you, unlessyou're a back of the packer and
it's your first one and you'restill, you know, if you're, if
you're gonna finish it, it mighttake you an hour.
My first 5k took me 52 minutes.
I needed something, I needed alittle bit of extras.
(27:02):
It was in the summer, I waslosing electrolytes, I was
sweating, I was about a hundredpounds overweight and so, yes,
in that instance, my body Inthat moment in time needed extra
electrolytes, needed, neededthe extra boost.
But someone like Jay who atthat time could probably what?
What is your?
What is your 5k pace, jay, now,and probably around, 20 20
(27:27):
minutes for 5k that's wherematter, yeah you.
You probably don't need anyextra fuel for a 5k right so.
Yeah, so you need to look atthe distance you're going, you
need to look at your individualspecific needs and you need to
tweak that while you aretraining.
That's that's.
That's that's my.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, that's what your training runs are all about
is the opportunities to use thesame food and fuel and
equipment that you're Going touse on race day.
I know my very first marathon.
I was cocky and this is backwhen I was running.
I mean I was still runningthose down like the 16 minute
5ks.
I was a really fast 5 and 10krunner.
Now like how marathon, I gotthis in the bag right, okay, I
(28:10):
can do this.
I Did all the wrong things.
I got a brand new pair of shoesfrom the expo Because I'm like
they're gonna have food out onthe course.
They got bananas.
They got propel.
I never drank propel.
This is what propel was like.
New, I'm good to go.
I was good for about the first13 miles and then the wheels
(28:31):
just fell apart.
I completely exploded.
I mean, I did the run walk, myfeet hurt, I had blisters so
freakin bad.
And my pride.
I was like man.
I am what the what is happeningto me?
Yeah, found another.
Some Friend of mine gave me abanana and a goo and they got me
by for a little bit and thenlater I saw that someone was
(28:51):
pointing, a bunch of people werepointing at me.
I looked down, I had blood allover my shirt because my nipples
were bleeding.
I was, I was a train wreck.
It was an absolute disaster.
And I'm like, wow, and just youknow, like in good, do hard
things fashion, I learned thingsthe hard way.
I'm like, okay, I've got a.
Really this is completely.
I have to learn somemethodologies here and train
properly.
And that's where I learned okay, don't buy things at the expo,
(29:14):
no new equipment On race day.
That goes with adventure,racing on a cycling or anything.
Anytime I've tried anything new,it does not work out.
And it goes the same with foodand fuel.
You gotta be very, very carefulbecause you get caught up in
the moment.
There's people on the sidelinestrying to give you food or new
it.
You got it, you're.
You've been training for solong and the body is so fickle
(29:37):
sometimes some people are moresensitive than others that, yeah
, you gotta be careful with that, but we need fuel and and you
need to train and and this isone of those things some people
can take goose.
I can't take goose and live offthem, so okay it's.
This is one of those areas.
You got to experiment with yourbody and you got to do it
during training.
So yes.
Yes, so carbs are good, carbsare bad, fat is whatever, I
(30:00):
don't know who no one knows.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't think any.
Yes, yes, that is a yes to that.
That is a yes to that.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yes, they're good, yes they're bad, who knows, try
it, try, run your own race.
So, yeah, all right.
So we were at 730 and our day.
I've got oh where's my share?
Screen bump, but it on.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isMaria Tessa Theriza.
She's been a part of our do ourthings nation group getting
(30:28):
after the 28 day challenge.
She made a post yesterday.
I'm not a runner, but I'm outhere running and enjoying it and
her she is having a mental andphysical transformation as we
speak and she's been very, veryjust, very inspirational, active
in the group, sharing herjourney openly, and I've been
following her on Facebook andshe's always posting growth
mindset type stuff.
(30:50):
So I am inspired by Tessa.
So thank you so much for being apart of the group.
We're gonna send you a shirtfor doing hard things and being
a role model, because that'spart of part of the challenge.
We incorporated this on.
Purpose is the accountabilitywhere you have to post, and the
reason being is because it truly, you may not know, someone may
not like it, they may notcomment, but it does inspire
(31:13):
more people, it does reach outto more people than you realize
and it's been inspiring me.
So I appreciate you sharingyour journey with us and, I
think you be, for being a partof the tribe.
We're gonna send you a shirtfor being freaking awesome, so
keep doing hard things.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Keep doing them.
So that's it.
That's all I got for today.
Yeah, how's your week looking?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
About to go get after it.
I'm looking like I got a lot of.
I've got my my training runsall mapped out through the end
of the month and I had apersonal trainer.
So I've got strength trainingmapped out and, yeah, yeah,
super busy, super busy focusingon.
So if you ask me, continue toinvite me places people, I'm
(31:59):
probably gonna have to say no,but but just know it's only
because I'm focusing on myhealth and wellness.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
There you go, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm still smiling.
So smile, make sure you smile,go make yourself smile, make
someone else smile.
Where am I smile shirt?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's on your shirt.
It's on your small shirt, yes,yes, yes.
Well, for everyone out there,have a kick-ass week.
If you have any comments oranything You'd like us to talk
about, or anything we missed, orany opinions that you have, we
would love to hear about.
Scooter, do our things.
Nationcom, reach out or DMSdirectly and we will see you all
in the next episode.
Thanks, thanks.
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