September 12, 2023 • 27 mins
Have you ever wondered how personal transformation begins? How embracing accountability can turn your life around? My dear friend, Stan Jackson, returns to the show to peel back the layers of these intriguing questions. Together, we navigate the journey of self-discovery and growth, unearthing how one’s reaction to issues can be a game-changer. Stan shares his life-altering realization about accountability, particularly in the home, illustrating how it mirrors our own self-image and parenting.
Can the power of prayer alter the course of our lives? I share my thoughts on this profound topic, emphasizing the need for sensitivity to the Holy Spirit in our decision-making. A significant part of this episode delves into the concept of earned leadership, which springs from being a well-rounded leader. Stan and I caution against manipulation tactics in relationships, such as 'buying love', and stress the importance of praying with your partner to strengthen your bond.
Stan's personal journey takes a captivating turn as he recalls a pivotal moment when his wife urged him to include prayer in their daily routine. As he discusses the role of proximity and complacency in his spiritual journey, we shift focus to the importance of intentional commitment to prayer and being accountable to others. Listen as Stan articulates the ripple effect of taking oneself seriously - a transformational move that inspires those around us to rise to the same level. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone seeking to deepen their spiritual journey and personal growth. Tune in, and let's explore the power of prayer and its critical role in shaping our lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, man, this episode.
We're going to continue theconversation with my man, stan
Jackson.
He's going to continue toanswer some questions.
I got form dropped that wisdom.
Tell a little bit more abouthimself and his story during his
path to mental wellness andgrowth.
Let's get it Okay.
We got to unpack that.
So how did God highlight to youwhat the true issue was, and
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then how did you do the work tolean into that so that you can
grow from it?
There's two questions.
The first one is how did theLord let you know?
And then the second one whatdid you do?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
After I got tired of complaining and murmuring and
all the things that I didn't seework for me and there was no
result.
That crushing period in my lifeshowed me that when I finally
totally surrendered not justsurrendering, but surrender,
totally surrender and repentantCome on my repentance, change of
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mind that's when God startopening and downloading me.
Hey, it's not them.
They have the issues, but thetruth of the matter is how you
reacting to this, and it'ssomething in you that I want to
bring out of you.
Yes, so I can bring somethingin you to heal you.
That's number one.
Yes, so when I came to theunderstanding that, no matter
where I go and who I deal with,even to this day, the problem is
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really not the problem I'mhaving a problem with, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The problem is me Say that again, the problem isn't
really the problem.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When I'm having a problem with the problem with
the problem is literally me.
How respond to the problem orreact to the problem goes back
to spiritual intelligence andemotional intelligence.
Yeah, yeah, and so when I havean issue, the same male wife
have me, my wife have what youcall heated fellowship.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We have heated fellowship.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Come on, once we are going back and forth and tidbit
and quarreling with one another,the first thing I have to do is
recognize Okay, whether she'swrong or I'm I'm right, or
rather I'm right and she's wrong.
I have to resolve this as theperson in the house and say I'm
sorry, no matter what the reason.
I'm saying I'm sorry because Iwant to understanding, because
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I'm always trying to respond,versus I'm trying to listen to
her.
Come on See, true leadership islistening, not talking.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
True man of God is hearing God and listening and
then say with us at the Lord,yeah, and then maturely realized
that the person who you'reconnecting with we both is
trying to because, think aboutit, the world's always throwing
doors at us.
During the day, yeah,absolutely, and then at night
it's just trying to get into howthe demonic and well, I don't
want to.
Can I speak?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
on it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, you know, you got these nightmares and the
serious.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
try to come at you at night and become wrestlers and
poor trees and suckabiz yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You name it.
You know all this wicked stuffpeople don't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, we talk about it, we'll get it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But those who know, you know this stuff is real and
it's crazy.
But it's only crazy because youare thinking fine lightning and
you ain't thinking supernaturally.
But I don't want to go on arubber trail with that no, no,
no go ahead, but when God showedme that I have to come in at
the end of the night the Bibletalks about that not your wrath,
go go down upon.
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Don't let the sun go down onyour right, right, and you still
mad, and I'm still like youknow, I'm still trying to
justify.
I'm right, yeah, but it doesn'tmatter if I'm right or wrong.
It's just.
The idea is this is my partner.
I want to see where she's atbecause even if I was in the
right, I don't want her to makeher feel that someone's wrong
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with the ideas.
I want to have a win-winsituation.
Come on, we have to have awin-win situation as you gotta
lose the fight, citizenscitizens.
Citizens, not a civil war inyour house.
You don't want that, but whenyou get through it.
Because I told you I wasmarried once before, when we got
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divorced, even if my thatex-wife cheated on me five or
six different times, which shedid, and I still was trying to
go back and trying to mend itand all that, and I cheated on
her twice.
In the Covenant we break.
The covenant breaker doesn't dothem what didn't we do.
We could talk about that.
Yeah, it still was rolled on mebecause God helped me
accountable.
Yes, yeah, man, I don't carewhere you at in your life, in
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spiritual matters and in naturalmatters, god is gonna hold you
accountable for your home.
Yes, your children, how theyrespond to react.
Your wife, how does she respondas she react.
How you pay your tass.
Don't pay your tass.
Give how you spend your moneyand how you act in that house
and what you allow in your house, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, whatever that looks like, you can't let
anybody and everybody come inyour house.
Yeah, or any music or all thisstuff that, because that would
actually affect the whole house.
You want to know why your sonwant to stay all night sneaking
out on your daughter's dressinglike little Hoochie.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
No, no, no, it's just right right, here is where you
gonna look when you talking tothem.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So this right here in the middle right, yeah, right
there.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So I'm looking at yeah, with a red light.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh, that's speaking to the red light.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, yeah, yeah, so I can feel super configured.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Everything in your house right now is an image of
who you are.
No, it's true.
It's true.
Every person in your house toact out is an image of how you
are parenting, because God isyour father, yeah, so if you're
not acting like the father wantsyou to act, then you acting out
in some other form and thenit's gonna Reflect on your, your
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children and you acting and youasking the question hey, what's
wrong?
What's wrong?
You go to your wife.
What's wrong with you, woman?
Well, did you have golly lovefor it?
That?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
day Listen.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Did you give her the flowers?
Are you just thinking?
You just making money?
That's why I was that, guys, Iwas making good money, thinking
I would give her trips and buyher clothes, but I didn't give
her a time of day dude I.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So this is a story that I that I heard yesterday
and it was about a wife who Wasunmotivated in her home Because
she didn't want to.
She was paralyzed to doanything.
To do anything she.
She just felt like she couldn'tget up and and clean the house
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and and the husband was cominghome and he was getting upset.
She was mentally strugglingwith depression.
Yeah for sure, she was mentallystruggling with, you know,
depression and anxiety andthings like that, and she just
was paralyzed.
But he wasn't making any better.
He was like, woman like youcould like, like why is this
house not clean?
Why is there no food made?
Why is you doing?
Like, why are you so lazy?
Why, why, why.
And so she was.
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She went to go get therapy andthe guy that her therapist was
like she's just let's just doone thing, mm-hmm.
She says he says what's themost and what's something that's
realistic and simple, that youcan do.
That's, and we just focused onthat one thing.
She was like I want to cleanthe kitchen.
He's like no, that's too big.
Mm-hmm.
Picks up the nose.
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She's like well, I really wantto wash the dishes.
He's like okay, what was whatwith that consistent?
She's like you know, put themin there.
He's like okay, let's load thedishwasher and that's it.
Yeah, and then when we meetagain, let me tell, tell me how
that went.
So she they meet again.
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She says man, he says how'd itgo?
She says it was horrible and hesays how?
So she said I loaded thedishwasher and I felt good.
Then I cleaned up the counterfelt even better.
Then I cleaned the wholekitchen felt great.
Then I did some laundry andthen I was on the move, I was
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momentum.
After that I cooked dinner.
She's like I couldn't believewhat I did, the counselor's like
.
So why was it horrible?
She said because my husbandcame home.
And when he came home and hesaw all that I'd done, you know
what he said?
Oh, so he finally did somethingaround the house.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Wow, deflated her too .
How often times.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
How many men Ignorantly right I mean I was
guilty.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I've done that before .
Well, I wish you had a littlebill, or he would've taken it.
Oh yeah, he wouldn't take it.
50.
Look, Look, look, look.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hey look, we've been there.
We're all been there, man,We've been there.
That's it, that's it, and Godhe convicts us Because we don't
know the battle.
And how easy would it have beento just be like, wow, thanks,
thanks, babe.
I thank you for all that youdone.
You didn't have to do that, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That's why we have to be consistently prayer, to be
sensitive to the spirit, so weknow how to communicate to our
wives.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Dude, I had a horrible.
This guy was a great mentor tome, but he gave me some horrible
advice before.
I'm not going to say who it is,but you know he'll know if you
listen.
Did you ever confront?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
him about the word of advice.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
One time yeah, I did, my wife was not, we were not in
agreement and I felt like sheshould have been doing more, or
better or whatever.
Godly wife.
Like some tracks, get some vibe.
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This I know you.
Oh, it's on Bible tracks.
Yeah, yeah, that talks aboutbeing a godly wife.
And he was like, just put himaround the house so she could
really she could find, oh no andmaybe you know she Pick him up
and oh, so we're trying to tellme so, yeah, right, right, right
, and I was like brah Brah.
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I Wish I had a button on here,brah, that ain't gonna fly in my
house, yeah for sure now.
Now, on the flip side, I'lltell you a story about when,
when, when I was going throughmy, my pornography addiction,
and I was going throughcounseling and all this stuff,
and she was reading books aboutwhat to do when your husband has
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cheated on you with pornography.
What to do when your husband isa liar and you can't trust them.
And she reading the book, theysitting around.
I'm like man put these books.
Nah, I ain't picking that, butI was just like.
You know, that's to me, yo,that's manipulation.
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Yeah, yeah, cuz.
If she would have left sometracks around the house about a
godly husband, right?
Yo yeah, no, I'm not going.
Yeah, and so I.
I love how you said we have tobe prayerful.
I Say all the time, before I'manything, I'm an intercessor man
because I've learned the powerof prayer.
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Yeah, I've learned the powerfor it because you never.
Just because something workedbefore doesn't mean it'll work
again.
Yeah, and he has seasons to itand has season, and just because
God did something in a certainway doesn't mean he's gonna do
it yeah so if I see somethingfamiliar, yeah, I know what that
is and this is what I did toget forgot to move in this way.
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Yeah, he may not do that again,yeah, and so I have to be
prayerful and I might be likeyou know what?
Last time she had an attitude,this was wrong, yep, and I'm
like, so this is what I'm a nose.
Yeah, maybe some completelydifferent holy since.
So I have to be sensitive tothe Holy Spirit to continually
Lead me on how to navigate.
I blow it all the time.
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Yeah, usually the Holy Spiritwill let me know after I fail.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You have to fail forward to learn.
Yes, you have to fail forwardand I you know a lot of John
Mills or John Maxwell that I Iagree from, but there's a book
called a Failing Ford.
But here's yeah, yeah.
So hey, if you're gonna be aleader, you must read to lead
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but here's the thing.
Harold, I want to see you knowthe audience as well as who
might be listening, activelistening and then just men in
the room right now and, yeah,I'm glad to see you because you
did this one earlier, so youcan't see your face, but you
come.
But how often times that wepray with our wives, man.
I have to pray with my wife andyou want to ask.
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Let's talk about the importanceof that because you're asking me
different questions, but that'show I start myself off.
Yeah, first Now what I do.
I have incorporated everymorning and every night to pray
with my wife.
Yeah, and that helps me tonavigate spiritually and
emotionally and mentally, andall that encompasses that,
because if here's what my wifedo, she's expecting for us to
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pray.
Yeah and when she expecting forus to pray.
That gives her somesatisfaction.
Yeah, it gives me understanding.
Yeah, and God comes in becauseof viruses, where two or three
are gathered in his name.
Therefore, he in the mist.
So that's where I bring myrelationship, relationship with
God, like Adam and Eve with,like currently, yeah, how me and
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my wife go before God everymorning.
Yeah, before we head out intothis crazy world, and then,
after we get beat up from thiscrazy, we're gonna go back home.
Yeah, before we lay our headsdown, bro, she and I pray so I a
lot of times.
Let me throw this out what Ilove about my wife, especially
if I have a weak moment.
She knows and she can besensitive to spirit when we have
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a relationship to pray together.
Mm-hmm and when she knows thatI'm off or incoherent in some
capacity, whether be spirituallyor naturally, she get a bless
all you she put.
And she had no problem puttingthat bless on my head and pray
over me.
At one point I used to have aproblem with that because I felt
I was just too macho, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm good, I don't need no prayer.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But it's all about being humble, guys.
I mean you have to stay humbleand you have to show your wife
that you're humble.
And then that's when you getmore respect from your loved
ones, or especially your wife tofollow you.
Because my question would be Imean, I ask, why should I, if I
was, why should your wife followyou?
Because you, the man, and yougot the title, you a husband.
You got the title, you got themoney, you got the title, you
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got the genes, the genetic genes.
But why should I follow you andlisten to you?
So here's the reason why.
Here's the answer.
People don't do what you say.
They do.
They every spawn to what you do.
Yeah, it's called a law picture.
People do not listen to what wesay.
Her, we can talk all day, butwhat they're going to do is they
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see our life outside of this.
Yeah, they're going to do whatwe do.
Yeah, it's the law picture itis.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's earned leadership, earned leadership,
you don't?
You don't you have positionalleadership?
Yes, meaning you just going toleave because I'm in this
position?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, are youjust going to do what I say
because I'm in this position?
For sure, but then you haveearned leadership.
Earned leadership is a 360degree leader.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I love that yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Because when you are a 360 degree leader, then you've
earned the buy in from everyonearound you no matter what level
.
They could be higher than you,lower than you same issue but
when you've earned it, then you,you leave from a place of, of
of credibility.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And see what we're talking about, guys, right now
is the law, principles and laws.
You cannot forfeit either oneof them.
So he said the law.
He said buying.
There's a search thing called alaw of buying.
Why do your family connect withyou?
A lot of times people use moneyto manipulate, thinking you in
it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh, I bought you this big house, I bought you this
Lamborghini, I bought you thisBentley.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You love me.
Don't you see what I bought?
You know yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's manipulation, gentlemen, even
though you're thinking, you'redoing it.
See, you're doing a good thing,right?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But you're not doing the right thing.
You're not doing the rightthing, right?
I mean, I mean, this is what itis.
You're not doing the rightthing, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But but that's what they look like.
Let's go back to I don't wantto run a rabbit trail because,
but this is what it looks likewhen you say what it takes, when
it takes the work, that wouldwhat it takes the prayer life.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So the submission, so before we, because I want to, I
want to, I want to touch onthat, but like when you were
talking about God showing you,in your previous marriage that
it wasn't her, it was you ohit's all me, it's all me.
And when God shows you that,what were some of the things
that you began to do to to usethat to grow you.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
To learning to forgive myself and forgive
others who I believe, who put mein the situation to make me
feel like I was a failure.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's good.
That's good Because we, butthat's what it would forgive me
Forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And here's the thing, gentlemen I'm still working
through that.
Yeah, Because it's so much tome and the roots got so deep.
God still unpacking that so Icould be a complete man, yeah,
and I'm not for my wife, for mycommunity, but most importantly
a servant of Christ.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So I we're talking about marriage right now and you
talk about praying with yourwife, and that's important,
because here's what I've toldfriends of this that I've talked
into when you set thatexpectation yes, that you're
going to pray with your spouseyou can't flake on that, no.
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And here's why, when women havethe expectation that y'all
going to come together at somepoint before bed and pray and
deal with the issues of the day,it allows her to get through
some stuff that she wouldn'tnormally get through.
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And then, if you flake on it,now she's still got all this
that she was intending to getout at prayer.
But you then went to sleepearly and now she got an
attitude and you wake up and you, hey, babe, good morning.
Yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And that's how I go, and you like.
Oh, somebody woke up on thewrong side of the bed and it's
like nah, somebody lied.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, speaking of what you just said, if I may
actually connect with that being, vulnerable as a man, that's
number one thing beingvulnerable as a man to open up
some things.
I have, in the course of that,had to learn that the hard way.
What you just said Absolutelyme too, and I can relate to that
, because if I'm in my stinkingthinking cause, I have them
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stinking thinking as a man ofGod, as a prophet, stinking
thinking.
I'm having a moment of beatingmyself up.
My wife did the very same thingyou said and that expectation
wasn't there.
And then the next morning, godgets me, lets me know that you
was wrong for that and thatwhole day is off.
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You talk about equal adherency.
Here's another thing with theexpectation, like you said, she
have that trusting now.
Yeah, when she's expecting youto be the man.
Now, let's pray, yes, cause atone time when my wife didn't see
me pray and I tried to touchher in prayer but she said don't
pray for me.
She would not let me touch you.
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Treat it, treat it.
She would not let me touch youat all.
Uh-uh, I'm good, don't need youto pray for me.
Hey, you're gonna need to get aprayer life before you touch me
.
That's true.
I'm like why is she on me inprayer?
I'm not gonna touch you.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Your body is my body, but it's true, it's true man,
and I love the fact about thevulnerability because, as man,
we have.
When you learn to be vulnerable, you know what it does, and I
learned this just by beingvulnerable.
It's when you learn to bevulnerable you're more teachable
.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's what it's about.
Are you teachable?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
man, are you teachable?
Because if you're vulnerableenough to share yeah, then
you're also vulnerable enough toreceive Amen, and that's fact,
that's principle.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes, here's the thing that it disappointed me.
In the body of Christ, you havea lot of men who's gifted and
skilled in the body and probablydoing a good thing, but not the
right thing.
And the right thing is a lot ofmen that I ran into.
Out of 100%, I would say 70 to80%, maybe 85% men that I know
right now in a largecongregation do not pray with
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their wives, bro and they veryactive in the community.
Yeah, and these are not justchurch people, these are kingdom
people.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, dude, my wife convicted the mess out of me,
bro, did you what I just said?
Yeah, don't pray with theirwives because it's easy, it's
kingdom, because you getcomplacent with what is normal,
like how do I say this?
So it's the complacency becauseit's oh, here it is the
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complacency of proximity.
Okay, yeah, the complacency ofproximity Because you're so
close with your wife.
You do so much with your wife,you're always around your wife.
You don't intentionally thinkto pray with her.
And the Lord convicted when wefirst started praying the Lord,
not the.
Well, what was the Lord?
Do my wife?
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But my wife convicted me andyou know what she said.
She said you pray with them oryou pray with me.
Wow, sorry, I had not do withthat, but listen, but listen,
yeah, right, right.
You know what the Lord sayswhat doesn't get scheduled
doesn't get done.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh, so that is good, because listen in leadership
what I teach and I ain't gonnago down and know what I do for a
living but we teach peoplesales and develop leaders and so
on and so forth.
But one of the things that I'mreading right now to recruit
people for the job that I'm inright now, and what the
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recruiting look like, is astatement says if you it's not a
true commitment till youschedule it first, yes, if it's
not on that calendar, come on.
It's not a commitment.
And you could.
That's true, yeah, so you gottabe able to commit, amen.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Because our prayer time is scheduled.
Yes, it is, it's literally.
I could pull up my it's on thecalendar.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
No, no, I'm putting it on the calendar, yeah it's on
the calendar.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
We put it in there it's on the calendar, and then,
if I don't answer, the phone her.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Be like why you turn your phone off bro.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And listen.
Here's another thing before wecontinue.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Men need other men to hold men accountable.
Yes, yes.
Golly men accountable.
Yes, because if you don'tbelieve that, when you having a
bad day and you're not trying tobe a man of God, what the first
thing you do?
You're gonna hang out with guysat a football game.
You're gonna hang out with guysat a basketball game.
You're gonna go to the barbecause they're holding you
accountable in your mess.
Oh, come on, that's fact.
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Come on.
So, instead of holding youaccountable in your mess, hang
out with brothers that keep youout of the mess so you can level
up.
Come on as the man that Godcalled you to be.
Come on For your wife, for yourfamily and, most importantly,
for your community.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, and something that I learned is, when you
start working on you, the peoplearound you have to rise up to.
Yeah, yeah, most definitely soif you got a bunch of guys that
don't do right things.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You say Jack legs, yeah, you say it, girl, you're
Jack legs, yeah.
And then around the blood ofJesus hey, when you if you got a
bunch of yes man around you, ifyou got a bunch of people
that's not like really investedinto you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Start taking yourself serious.
Yeah, and then the peoplearound you would have to start
doing the same.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, the law is called.
That's called a law in a circle.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
The law in a circle.
But yeah, cause, david.
Before winning with Bet Shiba,he had a lot of yes man around
him.
They should have pointed to mybro, she's married.
You know, you should be lookingat that back.
Matter of fact, why were youcalling when you got all these
wives over?
You don't need this one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, but he did it anyway, listen, dude.
So so, yeah, my wife, sheconvicted me and and she was
right.
She was right, of course, and Iwould be a fool to try to argue
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hey, that's where I was taught leadership, and I
meant to be an arp.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You know only a fool will argue with the truth, and
and so I was like you know whatyou're right, wow, so.
So, when you want to do this,hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hold up
.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So let's talk about what he just talked about.
So this is my prayer partnerfor sure.
Yeah, maybe doing it for almostwhat?
Is it almost a year or sixmonths?
No, no, it's been it's dude.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's going to be almost two years.
No way, no, we started in 2000.
Are you sure, wow, 22.
I thought it was and I didn'tknow it was that long.
This is here.
It's like this a year a littleover a year.
Over a year.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, but I remember when we first started.
But so so what happens, heyguys?
Ella and I don't know if I'mgoing to be seeing this, so she
knows when I have my strugglesright and we pray together.
But, only men can really trulyminister to me, and the majority
of the time.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's what we were saying.
That's what we were saying,yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So I'm having a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
She can't get through with me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
What's wrong with her ?
I'm good, I'm good.
Did you pray with her all today?
No, I didn't pray with her allday why do?
Y'all didn't pray today.
What is he doing?
So the next day we pray, andthen she hear me praying with
you and I come in, are youeverything good?
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And I say yeah, Then she rollback, go without a sleep.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm like.
I'm like 5.30, 6 o'clock in themorning.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Hey, your wife is watching you, your kids are
watching you and other men arewatching other men.
Come on, yes, do not foolyourself thinking you're getting
away with anything, for theBible says God sees everything.
His eyes behold the good andthe evil.
So stop playing with yourself,and literally stop playing with
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yourself.
I said it.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I said it, come on, catch it.
Catch it If you know, you know,you know.
Stop playing with yourself.
And worth it.
Hey, listen man.
So I wholeheartedly agree withthat.
I wholeheartedly agree withthat because it's important and
men need to know how to pray.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And men need to know how to pray.
All right, man, this episode.
We're going to continue theconversation with my man, stan
Jackson.
He's going to continue toanswer some questions.
I got form dropped that wisdom.
Tell a little bit more abouthimself and his story during his
path to mental wellness andgrowth.
Let's get it Okay.
We got to unpack that.
So how did God highlight to youwhat the true issue was, and
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then how did you do the work tolean into that so that you can
grow from it?
There's two questions.
The first one is how did theLord let you know?
And then the second one whatdid you do?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
After I got tired of complaining and murmuring and
all the things that I didn't seework for me and there was no
result.
That crushing period in my lifeshowed me that when I finally
totally surrendered not justsurrendering, but surrender,
totally surrender and repentantCome on my repentance, change of
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mind that's when God startopening and downloading me.
Hey, it's not them.
They have the issues, but thetruth of the matter is how you
reacting to this, and it'ssomething in you that I want to
bring out of you.
Yes, so I can bring somethingin you to heal you.
That's number one.
Yes, so when I came to theunderstanding that, no matter
where I go and who I deal with,even to this day, the problem is
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really not the problem I'mhaving a problem with, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The problem is me Say that again, the problem isn't
really the problem.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When I'm having a problem with the problem with
the problem is literally me.
How respond to the problem orreact to the problem goes back
to spiritual intelligence andemotional intelligence.
Yeah, yeah, and so when I havean issue, the same male wife
have me, my wife have what youcall heated fellowship.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We have heated fellowship.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Come on, once we are going back and forth and tidbit
and quarreling with one another,the first thing I have to do is
recognize Okay, whether she'swrong or I'm I'm right, or
rather I'm right and she's wrong.
I have to resolve this as theperson in the house and say I'm
sorry, no matter what the reason.
I'm saying I'm sorry because Iwant to understanding, because
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I'm always trying to respond,versus I'm trying to listen to
her.
Come on See, true leadership islistening, not talking.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
True man of God is hearing God and listening and
then say with us at the Lord,yeah, and then maturely realized
that the person who you'reconnecting with we both is
trying to because, think aboutit, the world's always throwing
doors at us.
During the day, yeah,absolutely, and then at night
it's just trying to get into howthe demonic and well, I don't
want to.
Can I speak?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
on it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, you know, you got these nightmares and the
serious.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
try to come at you at night and become wrestlers and
poor trees and suckabiz yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You name it.
You know all this wicked stuffpeople don't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, we talk about it, we'll get it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But those who know, you know this stuff is real and
it's crazy.
But it's only crazy because youare thinking fine lightning and
you ain't thinking supernaturally.
But I don't want to go on arubber trail with that no, no,
no go ahead, but when God showedme that I have to come in at
the end of the night the Bibletalks about that not your wrath,
go go down upon.
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Don't let the sun go down onyour right, right, and you still
mad, and I'm still like youknow, I'm still trying to
justify.
I'm right, yeah, but it doesn'tmatter if I'm right or wrong.
It's just.
The idea is this is my partner.
I want to see where she's atbecause even if I was in the
right, I don't want her to makeher feel that someone's wrong
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with the ideas.
I want to have a win-winsituation.
Come on, we have to have awin-win situation as you gotta
lose the fight, citizenscitizens.
Citizens, not a civil war inyour house.
You don't want that, but whenyou get through it.
Because I told you I wasmarried once before, when we got
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divorced, even if my thatex-wife cheated on me five or
six different times, which shedid, and I still was trying to
go back and trying to mend itand all that, and I cheated on
her twice.
In the Covenant we break.
The covenant breaker doesn't dothem what didn't we do.
We could talk about that.
Yeah, it still was rolled on mebecause God helped me
accountable.
Yes, yeah, man, I don't carewhere you at in your life, in
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spiritual matters and in naturalmatters, god is gonna hold you
accountable for your home.
Yes, your children, how theyrespond to react.
Your wife, how does she respondas she react.
How you pay your tass.
Don't pay your tass.
Give how you spend your moneyand how you act in that house
and what you allow in your house, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, whatever that looks like, you can't let
anybody and everybody come inyour house.
Yeah, or any music or all thisstuff that, because that would
actually affect the whole house.
You want to know why your sonwant to stay all night sneaking
out on your daughter's dressinglike little Hoochie.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
No, no, no, it's just right right, here is where you
gonna look when you talking tothem.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So this right here in the middle right, yeah, right
there.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So I'm looking at yeah, with a red light.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh, that's speaking to the red light.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, yeah, yeah, so I can feel super configured.
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Everything in your house right now is an image of
who you are.
No, it's true.
It's true.
Every person in your house toact out is an image of how you
are parenting, because God isyour father, yeah, so if you're
not acting like the father wantsyou to act, then you acting out
in some other form and thenit's gonna Reflect on your, your
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children and you acting and youasking the question hey, what's
wrong?
What's wrong?
You go to your wife.
What's wrong with you, woman?
Well, did you have golly lovefor it?
That?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
day Listen.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Did you give her the flowers?
Are you just thinking?
You just making money?
That's why I was that, guys, Iwas making good money, thinking
I would give her trips and buyher clothes, but I didn't give
her a time of day dude I.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So this is a story that I that I heard yesterday
and it was about a wife who Wasunmotivated in her home Because
she didn't want to.
She was paralyzed to doanything.
To do anything she.
She just felt like she couldn'tget up and and clean the house
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and and the husband was cominghome and he was getting upset.
She was mentally strugglingwith depression.
Yeah for sure, she was mentallystruggling with, you know,
depression and anxiety andthings like that, and she just
was paralyzed.
But he wasn't making any better.
He was like, woman like youcould like, like why is this
house not clean?
Why is there no food made?
Why is you doing?
Like, why are you so lazy?
Why, why, why.
And so she was.
(06:37):
She went to go get therapy andthe guy that her therapist was
like she's just let's just doone thing, mm-hmm.
She says he says what's themost and what's something that's
realistic and simple, that youcan do.
That's, and we just focused onthat one thing.
She was like I want to cleanthe kitchen.
He's like no, that's too big.
Mm-hmm.
Picks up the nose.
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She's like well, I really wantto wash the dishes.
He's like okay, what was whatwith that consistent?
She's like you know, put themin there.
He's like okay, let's load thedishwasher and that's it.
Yeah, and then when we meetagain, let me tell, tell me how
that went.
So she they meet again.
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She says man, he says how'd itgo?
She says it was horrible and hesays how?
So she said I loaded thedishwasher and I felt good.
Then I cleaned up the counterfelt even better.
Then I cleaned the wholekitchen felt great.
Then I did some laundry andthen I was on the move, I was
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momentum.
After that I cooked dinner.
She's like I couldn't believewhat I did, the counselor's like
.
So why was it horrible?
She said because my husbandcame home.
And when he came home and hesaw all that I'd done, you know
what he said?
Oh, so he finally did somethingaround the house.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Wow, deflated her too .
How often times.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
How many men Ignorantly right I mean I was
guilty.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I've done that before .
Well, I wish you had a littlebill, or he would've taken it.
Oh yeah, he wouldn't take it.
50.
Look, Look, look, look.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hey look, we've been there.
We're all been there, man,We've been there.
That's it, that's it, and Godhe convicts us Because we don't
know the battle.
And how easy would it have beento just be like, wow, thanks,
thanks, babe.
I thank you for all that youdone.
You didn't have to do that, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That's why we have to be consistently prayer, to be
sensitive to the spirit, so weknow how to communicate to our
wives.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Dude, I had a horrible.
This guy was a great mentor tome, but he gave me some horrible
advice before.
I'm not going to say who it is,but you know he'll know if you
listen.
Did you ever confront?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
him about the word of advice.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
One time yeah, I did, my wife was not, we were not in
agreement and I felt like sheshould have been doing more, or
better or whatever.
Godly wife.
Like some tracks, get some vibe.
(09:23):
This I know you.
Oh, it's on Bible tracks.
Yeah, yeah, that talks aboutbeing a godly wife.
And he was like, just put himaround the house so she could
really she could find, oh no andmaybe you know she Pick him up
and oh, so we're trying to tellme so, yeah, right, right, right
, and I was like brah Brah.
(09:44):
I Wish I had a button on here,brah, that ain't gonna fly in my
house, yeah for sure now.
Now, on the flip side, I'lltell you a story about when,
when, when I was going throughmy, my pornography addiction,
and I was going throughcounseling and all this stuff,
and she was reading books aboutwhat to do when your husband has
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cheated on you with pornography.
What to do when your husband isa liar and you can't trust them.
And she reading the book, theysitting around.
I'm like man put these books.
Nah, I ain't picking that, butI was just like.
You know, that's to me, yo,that's manipulation.
(10:27):
Yeah, yeah, cuz.
If she would have left sometracks around the house about a
godly husband, right?
Yo yeah, no, I'm not going.
Yeah, and so I.
I love how you said we have tobe prayerful.
I Say all the time, before I'manything, I'm an intercessor man
because I've learned the powerof prayer.
(10:47):
Yeah, I've learned the powerfor it because you never.
Just because something workedbefore doesn't mean it'll work
again.
Yeah, and he has seasons to itand has season, and just because
God did something in a certainway doesn't mean he's gonna do
it yeah so if I see somethingfamiliar, yeah, I know what that
is and this is what I did toget forgot to move in this way.
(11:07):
Yeah, he may not do that again,yeah, and so I have to be
prayerful and I might be likeyou know what?
Last time she had an attitude,this was wrong, yep, and I'm
like, so this is what I'm a nose.
Yeah, maybe some completelydifferent holy since.
So I have to be sensitive tothe Holy Spirit to continually
Lead me on how to navigate.
I blow it all the time.
(11:28):
Yeah, usually the Holy Spiritwill let me know after I fail.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You have to fail forward to learn.
Yes, you have to fail forwardand I you know a lot of John
Mills or John Maxwell that I Iagree from, but there's a book
called a Failing Ford.
But here's yeah, yeah.
So hey, if you're gonna be aleader, you must read to lead
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but here's the thing.
Harold, I want to see you knowthe audience as well as who
might be listening, activelistening and then just men in
the room right now and, yeah,I'm glad to see you because you
did this one earlier, so youcan't see your face, but you
come.
But how often times that wepray with our wives, man.
I have to pray with my wife andyou want to ask.
(12:17):
Let's talk about the importanceof that because you're asking me
different questions, but that'show I start myself off.
Yeah, first Now what I do.
I have incorporated everymorning and every night to pray
with my wife.
Yeah, and that helps me tonavigate spiritually and
emotionally and mentally, andall that encompasses that,
because if here's what my wifedo, she's expecting for us to
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pray.
Yeah and when she expecting forus to pray.
That gives her somesatisfaction.
Yeah, it gives me understanding.
Yeah, and God comes in becauseof viruses, where two or three
are gathered in his name.
Therefore, he in the mist.
So that's where I bring myrelationship, relationship with
God, like Adam and Eve with,like currently, yeah, how me and
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my wife go before God everymorning.
Yeah, before we head out intothis crazy world, and then,
after we get beat up from thiscrazy, we're gonna go back home.
Yeah, before we lay our headsdown, bro, she and I pray so I a
lot of times.
Let me throw this out what Ilove about my wife, especially
if I have a weak moment.
She knows and she can besensitive to spirit when we have
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a relationship to pray together.
Mm-hmm and when she knows thatI'm off or incoherent in some
capacity, whether be spirituallyor naturally, she get a bless
all you she put.
And she had no problem puttingthat bless on my head and pray
over me.
At one point I used to have aproblem with that because I felt
I was just too macho, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm good, I don't need no prayer.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But it's all about being humble, guys.
I mean you have to stay humbleand you have to show your wife
that you're humble.
And then that's when you getmore respect from your loved
ones, or especially your wife tofollow you.
Because my question would be Imean, I ask, why should I, if I
was, why should your wife followyou?
Because you, the man, and yougot the title, you a husband.
You got the title, you got themoney, you got the title, you
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got the genes, the genetic genes.
But why should I follow you andlisten to you?
So here's the reason why.
Here's the answer.
People don't do what you say.
They do.
They every spawn to what you do.
Yeah, it's called a law picture.
People do not listen to what wesay.
Her, we can talk all day, butwhat they're going to do is they
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see our life outside of this.
Yeah, they're going to do whatwe do.
Yeah, it's the law picture itis.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's earned leadership, earned leadership,
you don't?
You don't you have positionalleadership?
Yes, meaning you just going toleave because I'm in this
position?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, are youjust going to do what I say
because I'm in this position?
For sure, but then you haveearned leadership.
Earned leadership is a 360degree leader.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I love that yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Because when you are a 360 degree leader, then you've
earned the buy in from everyonearound you no matter what level
.
They could be higher than you,lower than you same issue but
when you've earned it, then you,you leave from a place of, of
of credibility.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And see what we're talking about, guys, right now
is the law, principles and laws.
You cannot forfeit either oneof them.
So he said the law.
He said buying.
There's a search thing called alaw of buying.
Why do your family connect withyou?
A lot of times people use moneyto manipulate, thinking you in
it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh, I bought you this big house, I bought you this
Lamborghini, I bought you thisBentley.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You love me.
Don't you see what I bought?
You know yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's manipulation, gentlemen, even
though you're thinking, you'redoing it.
See, you're doing a good thing,right?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But you're not doing the right thing.
You're not doing the rightthing, right?
I mean, I mean, this is what itis.
You're not doing the rightthing, yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But but that's what they look like.
Let's go back to I don't wantto run a rabbit trail because,
but this is what it looks likewhen you say what it takes, when
it takes the work, that wouldwhat it takes the prayer life.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So the submission, so before we, because I want to, I
want to, I want to touch onthat, but like when you were
talking about God showing you,in your previous marriage that
it wasn't her, it was you ohit's all me, it's all me.
And when God shows you that,what were some of the things
that you began to do to to usethat to grow you.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
To learning to forgive myself and forgive
others who I believe, who put mein the situation to make me
feel like I was a failure.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's good.
That's good Because we, butthat's what it would forgive me
Forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And here's the thing, gentlemen I'm still working
through that.
Yeah, Because it's so much tome and the roots got so deep.
God still unpacking that so Icould be a complete man, yeah,
and I'm not for my wife, for mycommunity, but most importantly
a servant of Christ.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So I we're talking about marriage right now and you
talk about praying with yourwife, and that's important,
because here's what I've toldfriends of this that I've talked
into when you set thatexpectation yes, that you're
going to pray with your spouseyou can't flake on that, no.
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And here's why, when women havethe expectation that y'all
going to come together at somepoint before bed and pray and
deal with the issues of the day,it allows her to get through
some stuff that she wouldn'tnormally get through.
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And then, if you flake on it,now she's still got all this
that she was intending to getout at prayer.
But you then went to sleepearly and now she got an
attitude and you wake up and you, hey, babe, good morning.
Yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And that's how I go, and you like.
Oh, somebody woke up on thewrong side of the bed and it's
like nah, somebody lied.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, speaking of what you just said, if I may
actually connect with that being, vulnerable as a man, that's
number one thing beingvulnerable as a man to open up
some things.
I have, in the course of that,had to learn that the hard way.
What you just said Absolutelyme too, and I can relate to that
, because if I'm in my stinkingthinking cause, I have them
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stinking thinking as a man ofGod, as a prophet, stinking
thinking.
I'm having a moment of beatingmyself up.
My wife did the very same thingyou said and that expectation
wasn't there.
And then the next morning, godgets me, lets me know that you
was wrong for that and thatwhole day is off.
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You talk about equal adherency.
Here's another thing with theexpectation, like you said, she
have that trusting now.
Yeah, when she's expecting youto be the man.
Now, let's pray, yes, cause atone time when my wife didn't see
me pray and I tried to touchher in prayer but she said don't
pray for me.
She would not let me touch you.
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Treat it, treat it.
She would not let me touch youat all.
Uh-uh, I'm good, don't need youto pray for me.
Hey, you're gonna need to get aprayer life before you touch me
.
That's true.
I'm like why is she on me inprayer?
I'm not gonna touch you.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Your body is my body, but it's true, it's true man,
and I love the fact about thevulnerability because, as man,
we have.
When you learn to be vulnerable, you know what it does, and I
learned this just by beingvulnerable.
It's when you learn to bevulnerable you're more teachable
.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's what it's about.
Are you teachable?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
man, are you teachable?
Because if you're vulnerableenough to share yeah, then
you're also vulnerable enough toreceive Amen, and that's fact,
that's principle.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes, here's the thing that it disappointed me.
In the body of Christ, you havea lot of men who's gifted and
skilled in the body and probablydoing a good thing, but not the
right thing.
And the right thing is a lot ofmen that I ran into.
Out of 100%, I would say 70 to80%, maybe 85% men that I know
right now in a largecongregation do not pray with
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their wives, bro and they veryactive in the community.
Yeah, and these are not justchurch people, these are kingdom
people.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, dude, my wife convicted the mess out of me,
bro, did you what I just said?
Yeah, don't pray with theirwives because it's easy, it's
kingdom, because you getcomplacent with what is normal,
like how do I say this?
So it's the complacency becauseit's oh, here it is the
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complacency of proximity.
Okay, yeah, the complacency ofproximity Because you're so
close with your wife.
You do so much with your wife,you're always around your wife.
You don't intentionally thinkto pray with her.
And the Lord convicted when wefirst started praying the Lord,
not the.
Well, what was the Lord?
Do my wife?
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But my wife convicted me andyou know what she said.
She said you pray with them oryou pray with me.
Wow, sorry, I had not do withthat, but listen, but listen,
yeah, right, right.
You know what the Lord sayswhat doesn't get scheduled
doesn't get done.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh, so that is good, because listen in leadership
what I teach and I ain't gonnago down and know what I do for a
living but we teach peoplesales and develop leaders and so
on and so forth.
But one of the things that I'mreading right now to recruit
people for the job that I'm inright now, and what the
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recruiting look like, is astatement says if you it's not a
true commitment till youschedule it first, yes, if it's
not on that calendar, come on.
It's not a commitment.
And you could.
That's true, yeah, so you gottabe able to commit, amen.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Because our prayer time is scheduled.
Yes, it is, it's literally.
I could pull up my it's on thecalendar.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
No, no, I'm putting it on the calendar, yeah it's on
the calendar.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
We put it in there it's on the calendar, and then,
if I don't answer, the phone her.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Be like why you turn your phone off bro.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And listen.
Here's another thing before wecontinue.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Men need other men to hold men accountable.
Yes, yes.
Golly men accountable.
Yes, because if you don'tbelieve that, when you having a
bad day and you're not trying tobe a man of God, what the first
thing you do?
You're gonna hang out with guysat a football game.
You're gonna hang out with guysat a basketball game.
You're gonna go to the barbecause they're holding you
accountable in your mess.
Oh, come on, that's fact.
(22:40):
Come on.
So, instead of holding youaccountable in your mess, hang
out with brothers that keep youout of the mess so you can level
up.
Come on as the man that Godcalled you to be.
Come on For your wife, for yourfamily and, most importantly,
for your community.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, and something that I learned is, when you
start working on you, the peoplearound you have to rise up to.
Yeah, yeah, most definitely soif you got a bunch of guys that
don't do right things.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You say Jack legs, yeah, you say it, girl, you're
Jack legs, yeah.
And then around the blood ofJesus hey, when you if you got a
bunch of yes man around you, ifyou got a bunch of people
that's not like really investedinto you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Start taking yourself serious.
Yeah, and then the peoplearound you would have to start
doing the same.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, the law is called.
That's called a law in a circle.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
The law in a circle.
But yeah, cause, david.
Before winning with Bet Shiba,he had a lot of yes man around
him.
They should have pointed to mybro, she's married.
You know, you should be lookingat that back.
Matter of fact, why were youcalling when you got all these
wives over?
You don't need this one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, but he did it anyway, listen, dude.
So so, yeah, my wife, sheconvicted me and and she was
right.
She was right, of course, and Iwould be a fool to try to argue
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hey, that's where I was taught leadership, and I
meant to be an arp.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You know only a fool will argue with the truth, and
and so I was like you know whatyou're right, wow, so.
So, when you want to do this,hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hold up
.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So let's talk about what he just talked about.
So this is my prayer partnerfor sure.
Yeah, maybe doing it for almostwhat?
Is it almost a year or sixmonths?
No, no, it's been it's dude.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's going to be almost two years.
No way, no, we started in 2000.
Are you sure, wow, 22.
I thought it was and I didn'tknow it was that long.
This is here.
It's like this a year a littleover a year.
Over a year.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, but I remember when we first started.
But so so what happens, heyguys?
Ella and I don't know if I'mgoing to be seeing this, so she
knows when I have my strugglesright and we pray together.
But, only men can really trulyminister to me, and the majority
of the time.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's what we were saying.
That's what we were saying,yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So I'm having a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
She can't get through with me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
What's wrong with her ?
I'm good, I'm good.
Did you pray with her all today?
No, I didn't pray with her allday why do?
Y'all didn't pray today.
What is he doing?
So the next day we pray, andthen she hear me praying with
you and I come in, are youeverything good?
(25:22):
And I say yeah, Then she rollback, go without a sleep.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm like.
I'm like 5.30, 6 o'clock in themorning.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Hey, your wife is watching you, your kids are
watching you and other men arewatching other men.
Come on, yes, do not foolyourself thinking you're getting
away with anything, for theBible says God sees everything.
His eyes behold the good andthe evil.
So stop playing with yourself,and literally stop playing with
(25:49):
yourself.
I said it.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I said it, come on, catch it.
Catch it If you know, you know,you know.
Stop playing with yourself.
And worth it.
Hey, listen man.
So I wholeheartedly agree withthat.
I wholeheartedly agree withthat because it's important and
men need to know how to pray.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And men need to know how to pray.
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