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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, man, this
episode.
We're going to continue theconversation with my man, stan
Jackson.
He's going to continue toanswer some questions.
I got form dropped.
That wisdom.
Tell a little bit more abouthimself and his story during his
path to mental wellness andgrowth.
Let's get it.
And so one of the questions thatI was going to ask you is the
importance of the prophetic as aman, specifically as a husband,
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because there's been so manytimes, because here's the thing
you can operate in the propheticwithout being a prophet.
And I think, because Paul saysI will, that you are what
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prophesied.
He didn't say I would that youall be prophets.
He said I will that you allprophesy.
Because there's been moments inmy marriage where my wife just
need a good word, a goodprophetic word, to encourage her
, to lift her up, to give her aglimpse of what she's fighting
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for.
And if you don't have theability to do that, what do you
do?
You know, it's just like man,she having one of her moments.
And my wife has gotten to thepoint and I'm telling you I keep
going back to this your wife isthe blueprint, your wife is the
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blueprint.
My wife, she's gotten to thepoint where she'd be like.
Look, I need a word from theprophetic word smoking over me
right now.
I'm not doing good mentally andemotionally, but I don't need
you to try to fix anything.
I don't need you to try to giveme no advice.
I need you to hear from God andgive me a prophetic like speak
over my life right now.
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And I'm just like and to mewe've been in this a while to
know.
I know how to do that, I knowhow to flow in that, but how
many men who are married, whowives, could benefit from
something like that?
But they don't know how to hearfrom God, Because all prophecy
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is is just hearing from the Lordand saying what you heard
here's the prog obedience.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, and major
sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But I guess a clear,
a clarifying question is have
you found that benefitbeneficial in your marriage and
how would you, how would youadvise someone who who lacks
that in theirs?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Wow, You'd be asking
them challenging questions, man,
because that's huge.
But first of all, because Ididn't believe in a prophetic, I
had to learn to accept it.
Yes, and a lot of people don'tunderstand it.
Like you said, you know theycould be doing it, but not
knowing they're doing it.
So it takes a lot of dedicationto be in the prophetic, a lot
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of major sacrifice.
Matter of fact, when you inprophetic, you got to give up
everything.
So to answer your question, tohear from God, you really got to
be obedient and be selflessness.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yes Self.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, you got to be
completely selfless.
And once you open up that door,and when God give you a word,
he gives you the courage to not,like I said, the law picture.
Not only say it, but live itout.
Yes, and with our wives, theywant to see it.
Yes, before they hear us.
Yes, even though they want to,it's one of us to talk, but what
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she's really saying show mesomething.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So I can believe in
you when you tell me it yes.
Yes, that's what she's reallysaying yes, pearl, I need you to
level up.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So I can see it, so I
can continue to feed on, so I
can believe with you.
Yes, because I'm losing sight.
Yes, in this area, right now,I'm wavering, because here's the
thing with the devil the enemyor self will do we get so busy,
we forget our mission.
We get so busy, we doing a goodthing right, but not the right
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thing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Good, but they want
to see us operate, and that's
why I believe, as men, ashusbands, it's important to have
the vision for your family.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And here's another
thing.
So when you give us a visionnow, you have to step in it,
because when we think the visionis, it's all going.
Oh, god's gonna give me ABCD.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
EMG.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And no, god, do
something totally different and
come in a totally different wayand, like you, want me to do
what?
No, I ain't doing that.
But when you start doing it,that's when he, it's nothing but
God.
So when you start walking, inthat light.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Listen, you have to
love more than the idea.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's late too.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're gonna wrap up.
You gotta love more than theidea of the vision.
You have to actually love thevision, because some, for
instance, like someone might ohGod, this is the favorite one I
like making front of God issending us to the nations.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Wow, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But you ain't doing
nothing.
International Right, right, wow, love it.
Mental capacity is still local.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, but if God is giving youa vision of compassion and love
and something grand, what stepshave he given you that you've
obeyed?
That's how it works with me.
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What steps have I?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So say, to put
practicality to what you just
said, so like if someone saysyou know they want a prophetic
word, but they want it to belived out before it's spoken, or
you know both, and it's becausesome people live chasing the
next word and they always want aword, they always want to be
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gassed up in the spirit.
But could it be that God isn'ttrying to give you a word
because you ain't been obedientto last seven?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Alright, God's
showing you if you pay attention
to his voice.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And so this is good.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He maybe wants you to
get it for yourself, because
he's learning I'm learning howto, to hear and understand what
he's saying to me.
Yes, versus, because God'salways talking To, always,
always talking, always, to thepoint where I, like God, can't
take no more Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I've been there.
I can't, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's too much.
It could give me a.
I see everything as a message,yeah, but what happens is he
takes you on these little thingslike I have to fast and fast
from talking and fast fromeating one day.
And I had to be in a meetingwith six people Can't talk.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it can't talk.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I had to write
notes out and they like dude,
what's wrong with you?
I can't talk right now, I can't.
So those are the little thingsthat you.
Yeah the two to two to startobedience, to start in that area
.
But here's when you prophetic.
You can't just smile off asanything because you upset.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, but that's
that's, that's the.
Now you're going into theoffice of the prophet Because I
think that's not the off.
So we're going to go staybecause people who are not
called to the office.
They don't have that sameseverity.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So you know.
But just, but just beingprophetic, and I and I guess
what I'm trying to say is menlearning to hear from God- so so
this what it looks like, guys,because we always going to get
upset for us, but it looks likewe playing video games, right,
we trying to level up, right,but, gentlemen, what it looks
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like when we actually connectwith God we cannot do nothing
with our God.
Yes, it's like even you call aparent or a father or even a
friend and you expect forsomebody to answer on the other
end.
When you dial that number,that's what God's saying with
you.
Yeah.
When you spending time andcommunicating with God, god
wants to talk to you.
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Just like you call a friend up,yeah.
Like you dial somebody number,yeah, like are in the mercy of
something happening, you call911.
God's the same way, yeah.
But when you hear the person onthe other phone, you just don't
be actually frantic.
You explain your case, youexplain why you called, or you
are receiving the phone call,and then you execute it and have
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a win-win communication by thetime you get off that phone call
.
True, that's what it looks like.
True, either that person wantsyou to listen or they want to
hear what you have to say.
But either way, by the time youget off that phone call, there
is a friendship there.
It's called a connection.
God wants us to connect.
So once he do that, and you dothat on a regular and call God,
and it's greater clarity afterthe call man, you call God up
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every single day and you, god,don't have to say anything for
the next 30, 60 days.
But I guarantee you, by the bus61 day he gonna speak to you.
The Bible says in Matthew sevenand seven.
What does it say?
Seek, ask, seek and not.
That's our, that's our mandate.
Yeah, as Christians are kingdom.
Yeah, but what it looks like asa man.
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How can I follow you if youdon't even know where you're
going?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Spiritually or
naturally, come on.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I can't follow you
bro.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And if I was a woman,
I don't care how much money you
got, you want me to do what Ican't do that you got my life
and my soul and my kids.
Oh, I need to know, yes, what'sour vision for the next five
years?
Here's how I know.
Before we go off, I always askme this.
I always ask two question bro,where are you going?
Yes, and then, what is in fiveyears?
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Where are you going to be withyour?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
family.
Yes, just like a regular job.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But spiritually
though, where are you going?
And five years where you goingto become God?
Always give you the missionhe's going to show you what it
looks like.
But if you don't know that,then you might want to go with
me and her I was talking about,and spend some time with the
heavenly father, literally.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Listen, because I've
talked to.
I've talked to men.
I've talked to men and I'vebeen like you know what do you
see yourself, you know, fiveyears from now?
And they'll tell me.
And then I'm like dang man, Idon't know if the Lord going to
do all that.
And they're like why you saidthat.
I said not once did you tell mehow your wife and kids fit into
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that?
And if you can get a vision, ifyou can, if you can articulate
where you're going to be fiveyears from now and your family
is not a part of that I have ahard time believing that it is
from the God.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, can I say this
her?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I don't know you got
so many Christians out here and
they tell them all they want tosee Heaven and they want have a
revival and they want to do allthis and no punnag is that?
That's all fine, the daddy, butask yourself this one question
Are you willing to die for thecause?
Come on, a lot of Christianswant to go to heaven, but they
don't want to die.
Yeah, that's a militarystatement in the Navy.
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All these people want to do goto heaven, but nobody want to
die.
They're afraid of death.
True leader is not afraid ofdeath, it's true.
No, seriously, think aboutevery leader that you know, true
leader martyr or something else.
They suck, they selfishness, andthey died for the cause or or
someone who's fully committed.
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You have as a leader, you haveto be committed.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, it's no easy,
because you may not necessarily
be well, I think, I thinkeveryone's caught to some form
of leadership, but sometimes,like you, may not be the leader.
But if you're completelycommitted and bought into
Division of what's going on,then you you're not afraid to
die.
Yeah, I remember when I was aIn early in our marriage I freed
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Cassie out because we werebroke broke and they cracker in
in peanut butter broke.
Broke like my little part-timejob Couldn't even pay our rent,
oh, and we had all the otherbills too.
And she was like what are wegonna do if we can't survive,
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Mmm?
I was like, well then we'll die.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Hmm, I didn't get
stress and she was like wow,
what?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
what do you mean?
I was like we'll die and we'llbe kicking it with Jesus.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Our work here is done
.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Our work here is done
.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And she was like
she's like, she's like nah,
she's like nah.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, cuz she, she,
she countered with, with, with
David.
She was like no, no, no, noDavid in the Bible.
Oh, david, okay, all right, shedidn't know him.
Oh no, what David, all rightbecause you know when David was
going against.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
David.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
David, yeah, no, he
wasn't king at the time, okay,
he was just a little shepherdboy, okay, when he was going
against Goliath, and but theyanointed for King before he did
that though.
Yes, yeah, and so, and this iswhy he was anointed.
Yeah for kingship, but hehadn't had been placed in the
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position yet for sure.
So when he went against Goliath, yeah, he knew the promise has
not been yet fulfilled.
Yeah, bro, I can't die.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
God has already told
me I'm about to be king.
I ain't king yet I'm not aboutto dive against this, this dude.
He can't kill me.
So here's my, my, my Life's thething, the good boy, they got.
Yeah, that's not yet beenfulfilled.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So he can't kill me I
love that, I love that yeah my
wife said we're not done, mmm,we can't die.
Wow, and I was like well, Iguess we gonna get the money
there.
We got the money, we got thembills Wow.
And that's the testimony forsure but it's true is true is
because you have.
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If I wasn't in the mind stateto be like you know, if I die, I
die.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, there's nothing
I can do about it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, Then I would
have tried to make something
happen in the wrong from thewrong mindset yeah for sure In
the wrong source.
And if my wife wasn't the womanthat she was and was like yo?
We can't die Right, we can'tnot make it Right, because
there's work for us to do.
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God has called us to somethingand we have not seen it come to
pass.
Yeah, so this is not the.
This struggle that we're goingthrough is not going to be the
end of us.
Yeah, because there's still yetmore for us to do, wow.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I was just like
you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I don't know how
God's going to do it.
Yeah, but he going to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It got good with that
, though.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And he did it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He's always good with
that.
He did it.
I love him for that.
Thank you, Father, for that.
I love you for that.
Do I do?
I really do?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We're going to end
this.
You know I'm going to end thislike this.
I heard, because we weretalking about money and stuff.
I heard this crazy, you cantake however you guys can take
however you want.
I think it'd be funny.
But this guy, he's a no, she'sa prophet.
This is Lady, she's a prophetand she was like I've never
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budgeted a day in my life.
So I never had a budget, shesaid, because I just asked God
to help me generate more income.
She said I'm not going tobudget Because if I need more
income, I'm not going to limitGod with a budget.
I'm just asking for more money.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And I was like whoa
and she's like you know what,
I'm a millionaire today andnever wanted and never had a
budget, because the Holy Spiritalways makes the bottom line, oh
, wow.
And I was like I was like ohthey Ramsay about to have a damn
with them.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, it's been
principle.
We got a budget, what's yourbottom line?
But she was saying.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
She was saying how,
when you trust God completely
and when you are steward overwhat he gives you, you don't
need a budget if you gotobedience.
How powerful is that?
You don't need a budget.
As long as you got obedience,you got to walk in it, because
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if you got a budget and can'tobey God man, you still ain't
going to have no money.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm going to speak on
that.
I went to a wedding two weeksago and I had like $200.
It's not big money or anything,but it's $200.
And I'm saying this for areason.
When you be obedient to God,and God gives you your gifting
and you are anointed like that.
And I never was a giver.
My wife was like give the coatoff her bag.
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I'm the other dude.
I'm like, look, I need yourcoat and my coat.
That's how God had to workthrough some things, because the
comedy mindset I used to have.
But the guy's song in hiswedding was a good friend of
mine.
He's a pastor.
He did 25 years of gettingmarried and they just renewed
their vows.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh, nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But the guy got up
and sung.
It was like two songs and itwas just so on point.
See, you got people who singand then you got people who's
anointed to sing.
There's a difference and itbreaks that yoke.
Yes, so I turned to my wife Isaid look, I got $200.
I want to find his brother.
I'm going to give himeverything in my pocket.
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I was trying to look for thebrother but he wasn't there.
So I think he's going to goback to the reception because we
was at the church.
So we go to the reception.
I know the guys who play thepiano.
I'm like, hey, bro, I've seenthese guys in a while.
Hey, what is that guy?
He said I don't think he evenshowed up.
You know he's not here.
But I said, man, if I wouldhave saw him, I would have just
gave him this money.
And I'm saying this for areason you have to be in the
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position to be blessed, woo.
You have to hear from Godbecause of what the devil would
do is put you out of positionwhen he was just talking about
how to be in the millionaire,put you out of position to make
you think.
That get you all incoherent,spiritually and naturally.
So when you're supposed to go tothe left, you go into the right
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, and somebody was right therewaiting for you to give you a
blessing for what they saw insome other areas in your life.
Yes, you gotta be positioned tobe blessed.
So, at this walk, when you askto, end this podcast would it
look like?
Position yourself, man, youhave to be in position yourself
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Position.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know that
happened to that lady who was
saying about the budget, Becauseshe was obedient.
She was in position for God touse the people around her to
bless her and she used that tostart a multi-million dollar
business.
Yeah, it's all about business,but if she would have went, the
other way and never met thosepeople and never gotten those
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circles and never been alignedwith them.
She'd probably be working anine to five yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So you asked your
question.
So, going back four stories sowe ended you're.
What's the name of the?
Do the work?
Do the work.
Do the work is being theposition to be positioned for
your position.
Dude, do the work to get inposition.
Do the work to be in a positionfor the position, for your
position.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Or another way be in
position so you don't have to
get in position.
Ooh, or stay in position.
Stay in position, so you don'thave to get in position.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Either way, either
way, either way, don't miss your
blessing.
Don't miss it, man.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's basically when
they say stay ready, so you
ain't gotta get ready.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, so stay in
position.
So you ain't gotta get inposition.