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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Jake, you look good.
Yes, sir, you look good.
Baby, you are handsome.
Raul looks handsome.
Jake, you look handsome.
Got some Black Craft coffeetoday we are while Jake gets
ready here and does his makeup.
He's looking good.
There.
He comes onto set.
(00:25):
Here we go, looking good,looking good, looking good, so
pretty.
You look good, jake.
How are you today?
Got some?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
blush on how are?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
you, buddy, I'm good.
How are you doing?
It's good man, it's good to seeyou.
I haven't seen you in a minute.
Starting before I sit down, Ido like starting before you sit
down.
It's kind of like it just likeit breaks the fourth wall and I
like it.
We don't have an intro.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Not the fifth wall.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We just go raw.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's not the sixth wall.
We go raw and we like it today.
We go raw and we like it today.
We're live Episode 9.
There's a lot of shit going on,Jake.
Good to see you, buddy.
Yeah, I know it's good to seeyou too.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's good to see my buddy.
I miss my buddy.
It's good to see my buddy too.
I miss him too as well I missedmy buddy, jake.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I like the little ghost stories you're doing.
That was a great idea you had,right, yeah, that was such a
great idea you had.
I like it.
Oh, wow, jake.
And we are at the home of BlackCraft Coffee in LA ASMR, asmr,
(01:28):
asmr.
I like it.
We got the Black Craft K-Cups,but also, jake.
Today we officially brokeground on Black Craft Coffee
here in LA on Fairfax.
The official Los Angeles BlackCraft Coffee store is under
construction.
It is underway, hoping for aJune-July launch.
It's going to be nice.
Oh, I hope I'll be around.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Where will?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
you be, oh, you'll be on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
On the road again.
Is there a way you can scheduleit?
Is there a way you can scheduleit so I'm in town and not doing
an event, because I would be sobummed if I wasn't around for
that?
No, well, that's me, that'sreally upsetting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know what, jake?
Actually, all jokes aside, Ithink you do need to be here
when we launch it.
So yeah, let me see what wecould do.
I wouldn't feel right withouthaving my buddy here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh, buddy, my buddy's here.
I feel like there's an imprint,a little bit of an imprint of
me here.
Jake, I like it, jake, I'mfeeling good today.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Have you noticed we got out of New.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Orleans, we did, and I feel good.
We drove across country toMontana.
Do they even have that accentthere?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I don't know, I don't think so.
I don't think you should dothat either.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I like doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I've been to Montana, oh Ooh.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Fuck, dude, I don't know.
I used to tour I mean like ontour.
We used to go through there Alot of times.
We would have off days there.
But I did get to visit thebeautiful place of Whitefish
Montana, which was very niceWhitefish Very, very nice and
then I drove through Yellowstone.
Now is Yellowstone.
Yellowstone is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's Montana, I believe so.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, it's like southern a little bit southern
of montana, okay, well, itextends into yellowstone montana
, I think it extends intomontana, but the main part for
visitation I feel like okay.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Anyways, I was there in montana two, three years ago
visiting our friend and both,yeah, our old friend high school
friend and bozeman actuallyshit elementary, which I
absolutely adored.
When I was there, it was duringthe winter time it was such
experience and we went toYellowstone and we got to take
this really cool lake.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Did I not just say Yellowstone's in Montana, and
you said you don't know?
And then you just tell me thatyou were in Montana and you went
to Yellowstone.
We drove to it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It took us like an hour and a half to get to where
we needed to be the road that wetook to get to this cabin, like
hotel place that we were goingto.
It's where the old oh my God,it's Montana.
It's Montana.
What's the geyser called?
What's that big geyser Oldsomething?
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Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Old, faithful Old.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Faithful.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's what they used to call me in high school.
What?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Why could I not think of Old Faith?
Is it Old Faith?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
I pulled that out of my ass.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was really cool.
It was just really cool and yougot to see like all these bison
or buffalo Dude, when I drovethrough, I went through with a
biker gang.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I did, I did and I was driving the truck you had a
completely different experience.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I did, I did and I was driving the truck.
You had a completely differentexperience than me.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I was driving the truck.
I drove the truck so like if aHarley broke down they would put
it in the bed of the truck andthen I could drive them.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I was with the biker gang, that's really cool Hogs
gone wild I was driving.
It looked like a catconstruction thing and it stood
up like six feet, the wheelswere massive and and it was like
it stood up like six feet, thewheels were massive and it went
through snow and it was reallycool and I got to see a whole
bunch of wildlife while we weredriving up there.
It was really cool.
I love Montana.
I would live there if I could Ilike it?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's where we're at today, episode nine we are in
Southwestern Montana.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Where are we exactly today, jake?
I would say?
Well, first off, it's calledthe ghost town of Bannock.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Bannock.
I think I've heard of it,Bannock.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Bannock, I think I've been there.
We're going to be interchangingthe pronunciation of the
episode because we suck at ourjobs.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, you suck at your job.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Anyway, I'm very proud of my research.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, I'm excited for this one.
This is kind of a cool thingbecause I do like haunted towns.
Again, I'm going to say it'slike beating a dead horse on
this show.
Jake, yeah, the house didn'tchoose you, you choose the house
.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think the town where you live.
The town didn't choose you.
You choose the villa.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No no, no, the town chooses you.
You don't choose the town, andI'm a strong believer in that.
Okay, and that's where we're at.
We're in a ghost town today.
Did you choose this town, jake?
I'm talking about people thatlive there.
I'm talking about what are youpicking at?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't know, you got some on your face.
You look great today you shaved.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Anyway, I just like to think that you don't choose
the town, the town chooses you,and I think that's what we're
talking about today.
Jake, we're in Montana, uh-huh,I'm thinking Gold Rush, I'm
thinking we're in the late 1800shere, the Oregon Trail.
Okay, let's get into it, jake,we're in the Banach ghost town.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm really excited about this because we've never
done a ghost town before and Ikind of want, I kind of want
we're going to do like a nicesum up of it.
But I think in later episodes Iwould like to dive a little bit
into the individual places thattake place in Banach or Bannock
.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We can always come back.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We can always come back to these.
Yeah, we can always come back,but we wanted to at least get
our hands immersed in this townbecause it's really interesting.
So Bannock Ghost Town wasfounded in 1862 in southwestern
Montana territory and it waslocated near the Grasshopper
Creek, beaverhead County,montana.
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And the original purpose ofthis town was it was a gold rush
boom town, so kind of like howAvella was known for its coal
mining.
This was the gold mine.
This was the gold mine.
That was all out west, huh Allthe gold mines.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This was the gold mine that was all out west.
Huh, All the gold mines wereout west.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I feel like it was all out west.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Everywhere where we grew up was coal mines.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, and it was also Montana's first major gold
discovery, so this was literallywhere it started.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
This was the hot spot .
Speaker 2 (07:16):
This was the hot spot and within a year it exploded
into a frontier hot spot withbought was saloons, brothels,
hotels and lawless streets nowwe're talking, but yet, but yet
no now we're talking.
I like how they don't even sayhomes, they just they go right
to saloons.
Priorities are priorities,right?
That's kind of wild to me.
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Uh, so the the highest thepopulation has ever been there
was 3 000 people in the early1860s, and it was mostly
consisted of miners, outlaws,merchants, families and drifters
.
So I can only imagine theamount of people who have gone
through this town while theywere discovering America
themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What I like about these towns in the town where
Jake and I grew up, like youheard him say Avella, pa what I
like about these towns and I'mreally looking forward to this
season is diving down morehaunted ghost towns, because
this reminds me of how we grewup.
Town was booming.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I feel like Avella.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
When the coal mining era was booming, the town was
booming, and then, literally itbecame a ghost town, and that's
what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I feel like Avella is like 100 years from being a
ghost town.
The fuck, it is a ghost town.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It is a ghost town.
Right now we still have brickroads and shit.
It's kind of crazy.
So the size of the townconsists of, I think, currently
around 60 buildings in thisghost town.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You know it's got to have.
Probably 58 of those arechurches.
Yeah, would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I was going to say churches and bars make up 58 of
those, and you've got to have ajail.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We didn't have a jail where we grew up, but our
neighboring town did and therewas hotels.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
There was also a schoolhouse, obviously, because
there was families that livedthere, and, yeah, a shit ton of
abandoned homes are here too aswell.
It is currently owned by theMontana Department of Fish,
Wildlife and Parks as apreserved state park.
So, we can easily go visit thisplace if we want to.
I like that.
I would love to find any reasonto go to Montana.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'd like to go fly fishing.
You fly fish, I like to flyfish.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You don't fly fish.
I get that 18-inch walleye whyare you talking like this?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We're not in the.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
South.
I don't know, I feel like Iwant.
So it's never been formallyclosed down.
It's obviously used.
So it was abandoned back in the1930s and then the population
dwindled and then it wasdeclared a ghost town about 50
years ago, I think in the 1970s,and pretty much since then it's
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been used as a place for peopleto come check out like tourists
.
It is all walkable, you canpretty much access anywhere in
the town.
There's no residence there,though, so it's just abandoned
buildings.
It's literally a legitimateghost town.
No one is there, no one livesthere.
You have to go out of your wayto visit.
It's pretty much a place forparanormal specifically to go
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check out and see what they candiscover through the paranormal
happenings that go on there.
It was known for mostly anoutlaw territory.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
There's a lot of violence.
There's a lot of violence inthis town.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was definitely like, obviously, a gold mining
town, but there was a lot ofviolence as well.
Oh, and here we go, sheriff orserial killer.
This is kind of interestingbecause you're talking about how
, back in the Shades of Deathepisode, that your uncle shot
the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Why are you laughing at that?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I feel like there's always a sheriff involved.
I'm laughing because we'retalking about correlation.
We were just talking about thison the last episode.
Sheriff or serial killer thisis good, this is kind of
interesting.
So the town's most infamousfigure is Henry Plummer, who
served as a sheriff in 1863.
And they have secretly led amurderous game known as the
Innocents.
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Rumors claim he and his menwere responsible for over 100
murders, with stagecoachrobberies and assassinations.
He was eventually hanged by thelocal vigilantes without a
trial, along with two of hisdeputies from the gallows behind
the old hotel.
This is kind of wild Over 100murders.
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How does one get away with over100 murders?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because it's 1863.
There's no law and order.
I mean, he was the law.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, that's the terrifying thing about the law
back in the days.
Imagine the sense of power thatthey had and they felt like
they could get away withanything.
That must have been such aterrible time to live in America
if you really think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I would think so In the 1800s.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There's also been drownings and accidents that
have taken place in GrasshopperCreek, saying dozens of
accidental deaths, includingchildren who fell through an icy
water and miters swept awayduring the gold dredging.
There's also a death toll,estimated to be what?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't think they knew.
They don't know, but there is agraveyard nearby that expands.
You can go in there and countit too.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's how many people died.
But it's definitely considereda paranormal hotspot.
We're going to specifics hereshortly, but it is considered
one of the most haunted ghosttowns in america, which is why I
wanted to touch on this first,because I feel like ghost towns
are far more rare than just abuilding here and a building
there, you know, and it involvesoh, here we're about to talk
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about some specifics that weseem to be, uh, re-encountering.
So we we have cold spots,shadow figures, disembodied
voices, children's laughter andphantom footsteps are commonly
reported.
Multiple paranormal teams haveinvestigated and documented
strange phenomenon, includingEMF spikes, evp recordings and
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full-bodied apparitions.
Psychics claim the land holdstrapped echoes of past violence,
especially around the hotel,schoolhouse and gallows.
I'm very curious about theschoolhouse actually.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I just had some thoughts.
I had some thoughts.
I thought you were about to saysomething.
No, I had some thoughts on thisbecause no, no, no, Well, the
schoolhouse doesn't do anythingfor me.
But I was just thoughts on thisbecause no, no, no, Well, the
schoolhouse doesn't, it doesn'tdo anything for me.
But I was just thinking aboutthis town because, between the
wild, wild West, the sheriffkilling a hundred people.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
We had miners and prospectors.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was actually just going.
That's where my head went.
I was thinking about all thepeople that probably got trapped
inside these mines too.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh yeah, Like that's what I was like.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This town is like fucked up.
Yeah, it can't just be shitthat happened on the surface.
No, I can only imagine andimagine all the unreported that
yeah, the non-reported deathsthat took place yeah, that would
definitely influence a ghost.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just feel like sure I just feel like, uh, when you
go back to our episode oneshades of death, that was a coal
mining in, you know, uh, thatthat road was tied to the coal
miners who were trapped inside.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And there was a riot there.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
that happened.
Isn't it so weird how historyis so similar?
Yeah, absolutely, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, think about this too, because I did write
this down.
So think about this hugecommunity, right?
And there's only one doctor inthis town, one sheriff.
So imagine the amount of deathsthat just occurred based on
illnesses that weren't able tobe treated because of lack of
doctors existing in the town,because this was meant to be a
coal mining town.
But I feel like coal miningtowns, gold mining towns, all
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these towns that were cultivatedby people specifically known
for one source, they alleventually depart from that area
.
And it becomes towns like maybeAvella or this town, bannock.
There's something to be saidabout this and it makes me
wonder how many people who'vedied on top of Everything else,
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the tragedy, just based onnatural illnesses and stuff like
that, and I'm sure that plays ahuge factor on the influence
that's going on with theparanormal activity there.
There's also.
There's actually been somerecordings here in Bannock as
well, so a couple of people thathave been in this town to do
recordings which was GhostAdventures, haunted History,
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ghost Town, terror and BannockDays Festival.
I want to talk about bannockdays festival.
So there's an annual historicalreenactment, with some
attendees claiming to have heardwhispers, screams and seen
mysterious figures during theovernight setup.
Dude, the bannock days festival.
That's fascinating to me.
When is it?
I want to go I would go.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I would would go, I would go to this, I would go to
the band.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It is an annual historical reenactment and I
feel doesn't in Pennsylvaniadon't they do reenactments?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
At Gettysburg, at Gettysburg, yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We should cover that at some point too.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We should get back to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh, dude, Gettysburg would be good.
That would be a really coolexperience.
But let's talk about some ofthe incidents that took place
here.
We're going to get back intothe Henry Plummer story so they
call it the lynching treemurders and Bannock's most
infamous chapter centers aroundHenry Plummer, who we kind of
tapped into, and he was a townsheriff by day and leader of a
ruthless outlaw gang by night.
By 1863, plummer and hisinnocence were suspected of
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robbing and murdering over 100people.
After months of bloodshed,vigilantes took justice into
their own hands.
They stormed the sheriff'soffice and hung Plummer without
trial along.
Do you call it shadow figures,shadow ghosts or apparitions
taking place and done throughthe gallows and others from the
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beams of the local buildings?
So they didn't just do thisfrom the gallows, they were
doing this in like every randompart of the town that they could
hang somebody, every randompart of the town that they could
hang somebody.
Imagine living back in thattime and that was just kind of
like a common occurrence thatyou would witness.
Like that was such a barbarictime.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It was just different times For America.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It was just different times and I can't even fathom
Evolution, jake, the evolutionof morality and principles, but
that's just like kind of wild tome.
You know that this was such a anormal thing to take place.
And they say, people say, andthe trees still remember.
Uh, people say the trees stillremember.
So the trees in this ghost town?
Visitors report hearingcreaking ropes, swaying in the
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wind when there's no breeze, andwhispers that repeat the last
words of those hanged Ghosthunters have even captured
disembodied voices saying itwasn't me, he made me do it.
I wonder if the it wasn't mewould be one of the suspected
gang members and that he made medo it would have been Henry
Plummer, maybe Because wealready have a history back in
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the 1600s with Salem, wherepeople were falsely accused of
bad things, of witchcraft.
I wouldn't be surprised ifpeople were simply murdered
because someone suspected themof doing something, and I'm sure
that could leave a reallynegative energy behind in a
ghost town.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What was the drowning ?
We were talking about thedrowning Grasshopper Creek, yeah
, yeah, what was that one about?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So this one is considered one of the more
tragic stories, and it's alsokind of bizarre too as well,
because it involves a young boythis time.
Not a young girl it's alwayslike a little girl, but now it's
a young boy and he drowned inGrasshopper Creek while panning
for gold with his father.
The boy's body wasn't found fordays and when it was recovered,
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the townspeople noted a strangesmile on his face, like he'd
seen something beautiful beneaththe surface.
Now that can be I don't knowhow much of that part is true
that whole smile on the facethat could be just a product of,
like, the conditions that thebody was in for a couple of days
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, but I think that's terriblysad that any child would die.
But I guess, apparently eversince, multiple visitors have
reported seeing a small boy inold-fashioned clothes walking
near the creek and he'll smileat you and then he'll vanish,
very typical of a ghost, andsome claim to have seen wet
footprints appearing in the dirtwith no child in sight.
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Psychics say that the boy isn'tlost, he's just waiting, but we
don't know what he's waitingfor.
So let's think of this littleboy.
Right, he's searching for gold,for his father Dies, drowns,
right, but he's smiling.
It makes me wonder if he foundlike the mother load of gold.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Oh shit, they would have found it by now.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
We don't know that, though.
What if it's one of thosesituations where it was in a
very discreet location, right?
Nah, Maybe he was happy becausehe found the mother load of
gold.
Maybe you know he was like yeahand he slipped and fell and hit
his head and fell in the water.
I know it sounds terrible, butI'm trying to think of a reason
why he'd be smiling.
I don't think anybody wouldwant to smile in the eyes of
death, but yeah, I find thatvery interesting.
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I also want to talk about hotelmead.
So I, specifically, was justgoing to do an episode on hotel
mead in this ghost town, uh, butthen I decided I wanted to do a
broader episode about bannock.
So for me I feel like we canhave, we want to revisit, uh,
hotel mead was the uh courthousethat turned into a hotel.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, it was a courthouse that turned into a
luxury hotel.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Uh, so this is where some of the darkest stuff that
took place in town happened.
Uh, so is at the center of oneof bandic's darkest stories.
In the late 1800s, a youngwoman was reportedly found
hanged in her hotel room undermysterious circumstances.
Some say it was suicide.
Others believe she was murderedby a jilted lover or corrupt
official.
Huh, a corrupt official?
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I wonder if that would be HenryPlummer.
He was capable of getting awaywith shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he'stied into this story.
Guests and investigators havereported seeing the apparition
of a woman in a long black dressoh, this is a little bit
different than what we're usedto In a long black dress
standing at the top of thestaircase.
She's often seen staringblankly or suddenly turning
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toward you with a scream beforedisappearing.
Cold spots and flickeringlights are common in room 10,
said to be there where she died.
I wonder, I know, I don't knowwhat the possibility is, but I
mean a woman who may have knownsomething about someone, and I
feel like there is a tie-in withHenry Plummer on this.
Yeah, you know what I mean,because if there's suspicion, if
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she had no reason, if there isnothing stated about why she
would commit suicide and peoplethink it was actually set up by
someone who loved her.
I would be.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
She had some dirt on him.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
she had some dirt on him.
She had some dirt on him.
She had some dirt yeah, I feellike she had some dirt, I don't
know.
I feel like there's somethingto be dissected there.
I do want to talk about hotelmean more in the future when we
do future that could be likeit's whole fucking a whole, oh,
absolutely, and I feel like.
I feel like if we were to evervisit you know, this ghost town,
I feel like that would be agreat place to start.
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I also want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, I'll tell you a great place to start.
What's a great place to start,then?
Schoolhouse.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh yeah, so we mentioned the schoolhouse
earlier.
It's called the SchoolhouseShadows.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's where I want to start, that's where we're
going and you're staying over.
All right, you tell me aboutthe over at the school.
Hang out with all the kids andstuff like that.
Uh-huh, all right.
Um, so this is the oldschoolhouse.
It still stands today.
Yep, it's chill.
It's chilling how intact itremains, they claim.
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Locals believe it's haunted byseveral several children who
died during a don't tell me afire.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't know how you pronounce this d-i-p-h-i-t
diphtheria yeah why are youlaughing at that?
No, it's just like I just notlaughing at that in the 1870s it
happened many of them wereburied in shallow graves just
behind the school due to therapid spread.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's crazy to think about, uh visitors visitors
often hear the sound of chalkwriting on a board desk, moving
or faint childlike giggles, eventhough the building is just
completely empty.
This is where.
This is why I want you to stay.
This is why I want you to stay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
One of the stories.
It involves a local tour guide.
Locked up the school for thenight.
Locked it up Feeling good.
Only to hear the bell ringingin the school, and then, when
you went back in the morning,every desk was rearranged and
moved how do you explain that?
(23:28):
Okay.
Well, first off, it wasrearranged into a circle.
Nonetheless, either let's talkabout.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let's bring up david and laura real quick.
Do they not use a bell?
They, they do.
I want to know the validity andimportance of using a bell when
it comes to speaking to theparanormal, because it seems
like it seems like ghosts have athing for bells as well, when
it comes to communicating.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Go watch episode two, blackraft Salem episode.
We do ghost hunting.
At the end of it you could seethe bell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I know, but how does one come to the?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't know, but the good news, jake, we're on
episode nine right now and nextepisode is episode ten.
David and Laura will be joiningus.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
We are not going to be talking about a location on
episode ten.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They'll be answering all these questions.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So this is actually very fascinating because we're
talking about all these kidsdying right from this disease.
What's interesting about thisis this is most likely where the
beginning of the end of thistown to happen, because you're
talking about a whole generation.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're talking about a whole generation of kids dying
, right.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, what can it?
What can a town do after thatwhen they lose a whole
generation?
That would be kind of expectedto maintain, right, the
population of a town.
I feel like that was be kind ofexpected to maintain the
population of a town.
I feel like that was thebeginning of the end of this
town is when that happened, Ithink the perfect storm, right,
you got that.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You got the gold mining rush kind of faded out
right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
All that.
It's perfect storm and boompeople die.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, kids die, which is terrible, terrible, crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But let's also talk about this.
One's actually very interesting.
All right, this one's actuallyvery interesting.
It's called the Death of SarahSally Gray.
So Sarah Gray, known as Sally,was the wife of a local miner
who fell ill during a harshMontana winter.
When her husband didn't returnfrom a supply run, sally froze
to death in their one-room shacktrying to keep her infant
(25:13):
daughter warm.
The child was later found alive, curled in her mother's arms.
That's very sad andheartbreaking.
Today, visitors report hearinga soft lullaby being hummed near
the side of the gray cabin.
Some say they've seen a womanwrapped in a shawl wandering the
hills, always searching, neverspeaking, and others also
(25:36):
describe waking up in a nearbyguest cabins to find a baby size
handprint on the windows.
Um, how does one survive in thehands of a body that dies from
the cold?
I feel like eventually, overtime, the body heat would no
(25:56):
longer keep that child.
Depends on how long they werethere.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm very curious about that.
I mean, if you're cold andyou're trapped outside, body
heat keeps you warm right andthey're saying that they hear,
like this lullaby right beinghummed.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
To me I would suspect that that's what the woman was
doing to keep the child fromstressing, like to keep the
child calm as she was humming,of course, yeah, from stressing,
like to keep the child calm asshe was humming, of course, yeah
, I, this is actually kind of.
This one's actually a littlebit more sad because this kind
of just sheds a light on theconditions, the living
conditions, of what it was likeback in the 1800s, especially
montana, and montana is knownfor not only getting super cold
(26:32):
but like mass amounts of snow ohyeah, like even when I went up
there to visit three years ago.
I went during the winter time.
It was mind-boggling how muchsnow was on the ground in the
mountains.
Oh my gosh, it was so much snow.
It was really cool.
But also all I can imagine islike having to confront that
weather back in the 1800swithout what we have today in a
fucking one bedroom cabin withno insulation.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yep, wow, fuck that.
That is crazy.
What crazy?
What about the vanishing miners?
As we're talking about the gold, I mean this town to me is it's
gold rush.
Mm-hmm, I feel like this townwas made from the gold diggers,
right.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The vanishing miners.
Like these, miners were diggingfor gold.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I feel like it's a combination between the mining
part and also the corruptsheriff.
Because he was responsible forover 100 murders.
So it makes me wonder if it's acombination of both the
vanishing mine, I mean.
I feel like this is likeapplicable to any mining like
(27:37):
town in America.
People just gone missing.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right.
Well, there's dozens of storiesabout prospectors who struck
gold in the hills surroundingBannock and then disappeared
without a trace.
One group of three miners waslast seen celebrating in the
saloon talking about a new claim.
The next morning their cabinwas found ransacked, blood
stained the walls but the bodieswere never found.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I feel like he's tied to all of this.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm with you Today.
Hikers report hearing pickaxesstriking rock deep in abandoned
mines.
Other scenes lantern hearingpickaxes striking rock deep in
abandoned mines.
Other scenes lantern lightsflickering in areas long
collapsed.
Locals say the town won't letgo of its gold, or the man who
tried to take it.
Yeah, I'm going with, uh, thesheriff.
At the beginning of thisepisode we were talking sheriff
or serial killer.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, plumber which I believe he was a combination of
both he was the sheriff plusthe serial killer.
The fact that his, uh, hisplace was ransacked after he
talked about a huge claim.
Come on, man, the only peoplewho have the ability to do that
are people in power.
That is pretty crazy.
Yeah, wow.
And obviously, you know,anybody in power has their
(28:41):
little pack of goons who doeverything they ask them to.
So it would make sense thatthis dude has devised this whole
power, the whole power, uh,this power set up to make sure
he's ahead of the town.
It's interesting, I wonder if,when they figured out, it was
him that was responsible.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I want to say he was, I feel like it's more plausible
, got in sync, my guts going off.
He was jake.
There's something I want totalk about, though, because
growing up in a small town, howwe grew up, yes, there's always
that atmosphere, there's alwaysthat energy, there's always that
vibe of where we grew up, rightI don't really know how to
explain, like where we grew up,other than small town yeah right
(29:21):
, 500 people.
I don't know what the fuck thepopulation I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We have no red light.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
There's cows on the road right.
The funnest thing to do is gocow tipping like.
That's where we grew up andthere's always been an energy
attached to our hometown yeahwe've never really talked about.
Actually, now that I think aboutit because, as we're talking
about this episode, it'sbringing me back to a valopia
the silent that isn't so silent.
They talk about benax mosthaunting feature.
(29:46):
They literally say the words,the atmosphere itself.
Many visitors describe anunnatural silence, a pressure in
the air, as if the town isholding its breath, and I swear
to you where we grew up has thatsame feeling to me.
It really, really does and Ithink that's why you and I have
always like ran from there yeahand I think I don't know, we did
(30:10):
say to another episode where wego back and it's like a little
more inspiring and peaceful, butthere is that feeling in that
town of like it's tense, it'svery trapped.
Is that it?
I don't know, but it's justfunny because I feel like our
hometown and, uh, bannock sharesomething very similar.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, Bella is about 100 years away from being a
ghost town.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Our population has not gone up, it's only gone down
a little by little every year.
And I wonder, because it's justthe opportunity that it was
known for is not really thereanymore?
We had a bit of a frackingcraze that was going on in the
area there for a minute.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like the gold rush.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, but I don't know if that's really as
prominent as it was, like 10, 15years ago when I was still no I
think it's still doing good,but it's still doing, it's not
it's not like it was.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, ghost hunters often say that, uh, bannock is
just, is not just one haunting.
The entire town is a layeredecho of the past, with each
building holding its own tragictale, and I feel like jake,
that's beautiful.
This kind of sets us up.
This kind of sets us up to talkabout a fellow pa in an episode
, and I think we need to.
I think you and I need to do alittle more research on our
(31:19):
hometown.
Personally, I really think wedo the shades of death episode,
episode one.
If you're, if you're listeningor if you're watching on youtube
, make sure you go check thatepisode out.
That's Jake and I's hometown.
There's a crazy story.
My bloodline's tied to it.
I just feel like Bannock,montana, avella, pa, I feel like
there's a lot here.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We're going to revisit Bannock for sure,
because there's so much tounpack with this town and I feel
like this episode's kind oflike a good briefing for it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, you could almost.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like you said, we could do many episodes on inside
bannock exactly, and I I think,yeah, we definitely need to
revisit it and we turn it into aseries I like that, let's turn
it into a series because andthis will just be episode one of
the series I might even renamethe title of it like episode one
like part one of the series,because there's a lot to dissect
(32:12):
here.
There's an abundance amount ofghost hauntings that take place
in this town that I feel like wejust need more time to dissect.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I got a better idea.
Instead of us figuring it out,why don't we let them decide?
Yeah, if you're listening tothis, I know.
Obviously if you're on Appleand Spotify, you can't comment,
but let us know.
On Patreon, patreoncom, slash,blackcraft, cult, or if you're
on YouTube and you're watchingthe video right now, while
you're watching the premiere, hi.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Hope you're having a great day today.
Leave a comment right here, letus know.
I mean, should we make this apart series?
Because, I'm kind of interestedin this one.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We it because well we're not.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What if they don't want to?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
extend it.
We're going to extend it,whether they like it or not,
what the fuck I'm reallyinterested in this.
There's a lot of stuff that wehave not covered, and I feel
like this is a good start to getpeople asking questions, so
maybe doing some of the researchthemselves too as well, because
we kind of want this to be acommunal thing.
Everybody that's interested inwhat we're doing.
I kind of want them to be apart of it too as well did this
story come from someone from 666club or no?
(33:09):
I.
I came across this by because Iwas trying to look for an area
that was very similar to a smalltown that just kind of doesn't
exist anymore.
I like it and I know ghost townsare like they're not as near as
common as like a building innew orleans you know right so I,
I just feel like there's a lotto dissect here and I, I, I am
for sure, going to revisit uh,revisit uh, the bannock ghost
(33:31):
town, and because there's just alot here to dissect this was a
nice, uh, brief brief.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
This is a little foreplay, if you will.
Briefing a little foreplaybefore you get into other parts.
Foreplay you know what I meanyeah, kind of like that sure
episode nine episode bannock,montana.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It was a short one it was a short one.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It was a short one it's short one, hey, if you want
to reach that, 100 episodes, no, no, I'm just kidding I, I do
think that this to me is like,because the problem is is we
could, like you said, we coulddeep dive this whole thing it
would turn into like a four hourlong episode.
Yeah, I think this is a nicenice briefing, uh, where we
could do break it into differentparts and and.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I like that, like Hotel Mead there's a lot more to
Hotel Mead Correct.
I think there's more to thatschoolhouse too.
I think there's more to thatschoolhouse as well, and that's
why I want to turn it into adifferent part series.
So I'm really a multi-partseries, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But what if I think our plan might backfire?
What if everyone goes and in acomment right now, and they
don't want to hear anything more?
Well then, I guess we're happywe did it short.
I guess we're happy we did itshort.
Episode 9, bannock MontanaEpisode 10, let's talk about it
for a second.
We got David and Laura comingup.
This is going to be a specialepisode, I think.
As Jake and I always like tosay, we are not ghost experts,
(34:45):
we are not paranormal expertsHell, hell.
We're not even experts inpodcast world.
But we're not living no, that,don't say that.
Don't say that, don't say that,don't say that's bad words I'm
just kidding.
Um, we're just not experts atthis, but I thought we, jake,
actually had a great idea tobring david and laura on, yeah,
uh, to kind of just kind of giveus a little lesson more insight
(35:05):
.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
More insight, kind of like a class give us like a
little teaching I.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's actually another good thing.
If you have any questions forDavid and Laura and you're
watching us on YouTube, makesure you go leave a comment
right there and we'll have Davidand Laura answer your questions
, and also patreoncom slashblackcraft cult.
We'll put a little post up forsubscribers only.
You'll be able to ask David andLaura some questions.
Maybe we even have you call inon that show.
That would actually be a goodthat's where we start the calls,
(35:30):
there we go.
I love that.
That's where we're starting thecalls, if this Bluetooth ever
works.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
We're going to call the episode episode 10,
Paranormal 101.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Ooh, Part one Did you just come up with that I did
Wow Yay.
Okay, thanks for all the love.
The love has been crazy onYouTube.
The love has been crazy onApple, spotify, patreon,
everything.
Make sure you go check outblackcraftcoffeecom,
blackcraftcultcom.
We hit some promo codes on thepast episode.
(35:58):
Yep, we'll see if anyone gotthem.
They went like one second.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
We're not going to spoon food of this one, or speed
food, speed, speed, oh my GodSpoon.
Feed, oh my God Spoon feed.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, that one I'm going to spoon feed you Ready.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right now, here we go .
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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Speaker 2 (36:15):
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Blackcraftcultcom.
Use promo code spoon.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh, is that another one?
Use promo code.
Spoon, I'm going to spoon feedyou he should be speened.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Use promo code spoon.
I appreciate you,blackcraftcoffeecom.
Use promo code Spoon.
Actually, I'm not going to putany promo codes up today.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Nevermind, I was going to do it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
What do you want to do?
I'll let you pick.
We did 30% off how aboutgiveaway?
Oh, you want to just give awaysomething yeah, give away.
Well, that's how the fuck youcan.
All right, we're not doing apromo code.
Jake fucked it up.
We'll see you.
Episode 10, paranormal 101blame jake.
F's in the chat for jake, we'llsee you.
(37:06):
This is not what, not?
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We'll see you in.
This is not WhatNot Bye, hey,oh yeah, whatnotcom.
No wait, app Store, whatnotBlackraft Call See you.
F's in the chat for Jake Shutup.
No promo code because of JakeF's in the chat Bye, that's mean
.
Jake, you look good.
Yes, sir, you look good.
Baby, you are handsome.
Raul looks handsome.
Jake, you look handsome.
Got some Black Craft coffeetoday we are while Jake gets
ready here and does his makeup.
He's looking good.
There.
He comes onto set.
(00:25):
Here we go, looking good,looking good, looking good, so
pretty.
You look good, jake.
How are you today?
Got some?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
blush on how are?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
you, buddy, I'm good.
How are you doing?
It's good man, it's good to seeyou.
I haven't seen you in a minute.
Starting before I sit down, Ido like starting before you sit
down.
It's kind of like it just likeit breaks the fourth wall and I
like it.
We don't have an intro.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Not the fifth wall.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We just go raw.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's not the sixth wall.
We go raw and we like it today.
We go raw and we like it today.
We're live Episode 9.
There's a lot of shit going on,Jake.
Good to see you, buddy.
Yeah, I know it's good to seeyou too.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's good to see my buddy.
I miss my buddy.
It's good to see my buddy too.
I miss him too as well I missedmy buddy, jake.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I like the little ghost stories you're doing.
That was a great idea you had,right, yeah, that was such a
great idea you had.
I like it.
Oh, wow, jake.
And we are at the home of BlackCraft Coffee in LA ASMR, asmr,
(01:28):
asmr.
I like it.
We got the Black Craft K-Cups,but also, jake.
Today we officially brokeground on Black Craft Coffee
here in LA on Fairfax.
The official Los Angeles BlackCraft Coffee store is under
construction.
It is underway, hoping for aJune-July launch.
It's going to be nice.
Oh, I hope I'll be around.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Where will?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
you be, oh, you'll be on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
On the road again.
Is there a way you can scheduleit?
Is there a way you can scheduleit so I'm in town and not doing
an event, because I would be sobummed if I wasn't around for
that?
No, well, that's me, that'sreally upsetting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know what, jake?
Actually, all jokes aside, Ithink you do need to be here
when we launch it.
So yeah, let me see what wecould do.
I wouldn't feel right withouthaving my buddy here.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh, buddy, my buddy's here.
I feel like there's an imprint,a little bit of an imprint of
me here.
Jake, I like it, jake, I'mfeeling good today.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Have you noticed we got out of New.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Orleans, we did, and I feel good.
We drove across country toMontana.
Do they even have that accentthere?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I don't know, I don't think so.
I don't think you should dothat either.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I like doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I've been to Montana, oh Ooh.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Fuck, dude, I don't know.
I used to tour I mean like ontour.
We used to go through there Alot of times.
We would have off days there.
But I did get to visit thebeautiful place of Whitefish
Montana, which was very niceWhitefish Very, very nice and
then I drove through Yellowstone.
Now is Yellowstone.
Yellowstone is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's Montana, I believe so.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, it's like southern a little bit southern
of montana, okay, well, itextends into yellowstone montana
, I think it extends intomontana, but the main part for
visitation I feel like okay.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Anyways, I was there in montana two, three years ago
visiting our friend and both,yeah, our old friend high school
friend and bozeman actuallyshit elementary, which I
absolutely adored.
When I was there, it was duringthe winter time it was such
experience and we went toYellowstone and we got to take
this really cool lake.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Did I not just say Yellowstone's in Montana, and
you said you don't know?
And then you just tell me thatyou were in Montana and you went
to Yellowstone.
We drove to it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It took us like an hour and a half to get to where
we needed to be the road that wetook to get to this cabin, like
hotel place that we were goingto.
It's where the old oh my God,it's Montana.
It's Montana.
What's the geyser called?
What's that big geyser Oldsomething?
(03:55):
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Old, faithful Old.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Faithful.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's what they used to call me in high school.
What?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Why could I not think of Old Faith?
Is it Old Faith?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
I pulled that out of my ass.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was really cool.
It was just really cool and yougot to see like all these bison
or buffalo Dude, when I drovethrough, I went through with a
biker gang.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I did, I did and I was driving the truck you had a
completely different experience.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I did, I did and I was driving the truck.
You had a completely differentexperience than me.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I was driving the truck.
I drove the truck so like if aHarley broke down they would put
it in the bed of the truck andthen I could drive them.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I was with the biker gang, that's really cool Hogs
gone wild I was driving.
It looked like a catconstruction thing and it stood
up like six feet, the wheelswere massive and and it was like
it stood up like six feet, thewheels were massive and it went
through snow and it was reallycool and I got to see a whole
bunch of wildlife while we weredriving up there.
It was really cool.
I love Montana.
I would live there if I could Ilike it?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's where we're at today, episode nine we are in
Southwestern Montana.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Where are we exactly today, jake?
I would say?
Well, first off, it's calledthe ghost town of Bannock.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Bannock.
I think I've heard of it,Bannock.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Bannock, I think I've been there.
We're going to be interchangingthe pronunciation of the
episode because we suck at ourjobs.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, you suck at your job.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Anyway, I'm very proud of my research.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, I'm excited for this one.
This is kind of a cool thingbecause I do like haunted towns.
Again, I'm going to say it'slike beating a dead horse on
this show.
Jake, yeah, the house didn'tchoose you, you choose the house
.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think the town where you live.
The town didn't choose you.
You choose the villa.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No no, no, the town chooses you.
You don't choose the town, andI'm a strong believer in that.
Okay, and that's where we're at.
We're in a ghost town today.
Did you choose this town, jake?
I'm talking about people thatlive there.
I'm talking about what are youpicking at?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't know, you got some on your face.
You look great today you shaved.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Anyway, I just like to think that you don't choose
the town, the town chooses you,and I think that's what we're
talking about today.
Jake, we're in Montana, uh-huh,I'm thinking Gold Rush, I'm
thinking we're in the late 1800shere, the Oregon Trail.
Okay, let's get into it, jake,we're in the Banach ghost town.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm really excited about this because we've never
done a ghost town before and Ikind of want, I kind of want
we're going to do like a nicesum up of it.
But I think in later episodes Iwould like to dive a little bit
into the individual places thattake place in Banach or Bannock
.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We can always come back.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We can always come back to these.
Yeah, we can always come back,but we wanted to at least get
our hands immersed in this townbecause it's really interesting.
So Bannock Ghost Town wasfounded in 1862 in southwestern
Montana territory and it waslocated near the Grasshopper
Creek, beaverhead County,montana.
(06:53):
And the original purpose ofthis town was it was a gold rush
boom town, so kind of like howAvella was known for its coal
mining.
This was the gold mine.
This was the gold mine.
That was all out west, huh Allthe gold mines.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This was the gold mine that was all out west.
Huh, All the gold mines wereout west.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I feel like it was all out west.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Everywhere where we grew up was coal mines.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, and it was also Montana's first major gold
discovery, so this was literallywhere it started.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
This was the hot spot .
Speaker 2 (07:16):
This was the hot spot and within a year it exploded
into a frontier hot spot withbought was saloons, brothels,
hotels and lawless streets nowwe're talking, but yet, but yet
no now we're talking.
I like how they don't even sayhomes, they just they go right
to saloons.
Priorities are priorities,right?
That's kind of wild to me.
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Uh, so the the highest thepopulation has ever been there
was 3 000 people in the early1860s, and it was mostly
consisted of miners, outlaws,merchants, families and drifters
.
So I can only imagine theamount of people who have gone
through this town while theywere discovering America
themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What I like about these towns in the town where
Jake and I grew up, like youheard him say Avella, pa what I
like about these towns and I'mreally looking forward to this
season is diving down morehaunted ghost towns, because
this reminds me of how we grewup.
Town was booming.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I feel like Avella.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
When the coal mining era was booming, the town was
booming, and then, literally itbecame a ghost town, and that's
what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I feel like Avella is like 100 years from being a
ghost town.
The fuck, it is a ghost town.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It is a ghost town.
Right now we still have brickroads and shit.
It's kind of crazy.
So the size of the townconsists of, I think, currently
around 60 buildings in thisghost town.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You know it's got to have.
Probably 58 of those arechurches.
Yeah, would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I was going to say churches and bars make up 58 of
those, and you've got to have ajail.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We didn't have a jail where we grew up, but our
neighboring town did and therewas hotels.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
There was also a schoolhouse, obviously, because
there was families that livedthere, and, yeah, a shit ton of
abandoned homes are here too aswell.
It is currently owned by theMontana Department of Fish,
Wildlife and Parks as apreserved state park.
So, we can easily go visit thisplace if we want to.
I like that.
I would love to find any reasonto go to Montana.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'd like to go fly fishing.
You fly fish, I like to flyfish.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You don't fly fish.
I get that 18-inch walleye whyare you talking like this?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We're not in the.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
South.
I don't know, I feel like Iwant.
So it's never been formallyclosed down.
It's obviously used.
So it was abandoned back in the1930s and then the population
dwindled and then it wasdeclared a ghost town about 50
years ago, I think in the 1970s,and pretty much since then it's
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been used as a place for peopleto come check out like tourists
.
It is all walkable, you canpretty much access anywhere in
the town.
There's no residence there,though, so it's just abandoned
buildings.
It's literally a legitimateghost town.
No one is there, no one livesthere.
You have to go out of your wayto visit.
It's pretty much a place forparanormal specifically to go
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check out and see what they candiscover through the paranormal
happenings that go on there.
It was known for mostly anoutlaw territory.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
There's a lot of violence.
There's a lot of violence inthis town.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was definitely like, obviously, a gold mining
town, but there was a lot ofviolence as well.
Oh, and here we go, sheriff orserial killer.
This is kind of interestingbecause you're talking about how
, back in the Shades of Deathepisode, that your uncle shot
the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Why are you laughing at that?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I feel like there's always a sheriff involved.
I'm laughing because we'retalking about correlation.
We were just talking about thison the last episode.
Sheriff or serial killer thisis good, this is kind of
interesting.
So the town's most infamousfigure is Henry Plummer, who
served as a sheriff in 1863.
And they have secretly led amurderous game known as the
Innocents.
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Rumors claim he and his menwere responsible for over 100
murders, with stagecoachrobberies and assassinations.
He was eventually hanged by thelocal vigilantes without a
trial, along with two of hisdeputies from the gallows behind
the old hotel.
This is kind of wild Over 100murders.
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How does one get away with over100 murders?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because it's 1863.
There's no law and order.
I mean, he was the law.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, that's the terrifying thing about the law
back in the days.
Imagine the sense of power thatthey had and they felt like
they could get away withanything.
That must have been such aterrible time to live in America
if you really think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I would think so In the 1800s.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There's also been drownings and accidents that
have taken place in GrasshopperCreek, saying dozens of
accidental deaths, includingchildren who fell through an icy
water and miters swept awayduring the gold dredging.
There's also a death toll,estimated to be what?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't think they knew.
They don't know, but there is agraveyard nearby that expands.
You can go in there and countit too.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's how many people died.
But it's definitely considereda paranormal hotspot.
We're going to specifics hereshortly, but it is considered
one of the most haunted ghosttowns in america, which is why I
wanted to touch on this first,because I feel like ghost towns
are far more rare than just abuilding here and a building
there, you know, and it involvesoh, here we're about to talk
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about some specifics that weseem to be, uh, re-encountering.
So we we have cold spots,shadow figures, disembodied
voices, children's laughter andphantom footsteps are commonly
reported.
Multiple paranormal teams haveinvestigated and documented
strange phenomenon, includingEMF spikes, evp recordings and
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full-bodied apparitions.
Psychics claim the land holdstrapped echoes of past violence,
especially around the hotel,schoolhouse and gallows.
I'm very curious about theschoolhouse actually.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I just had some thoughts.
I had some thoughts.
I thought you were about to saysomething.
No, I had some thoughts on thisbecause no, no, no, Well, the
schoolhouse doesn't do anythingfor me.
But I was just thoughts on thisbecause no, no, no, Well, the
schoolhouse doesn't, it doesn'tdo anything for me.
But I was just thinking aboutthis town because, between the
wild, wild West, the sheriffkilling a hundred people.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
We had miners and prospectors.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was actually just going.
That's where my head went.
I was thinking about all thepeople that probably got trapped
inside these mines too.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh yeah, Like that's what I was like.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This town is like fucked up.
Yeah, it can't just be shitthat happened on the surface.
No, I can only imagine andimagine all the unreported that
yeah, the non-reported deathsthat took place yeah, that would
definitely influence a ghost.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just feel like sure I just feel like, uh, when you
go back to our episode oneshades of death, that was a coal
mining in, you know, uh, thatthat road was tied to the coal
miners who were trapped inside.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And there was a riot there.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
that happened.
Isn't it so weird how historyis so similar?
Yeah, absolutely, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, think about this too, because I did write
this down.
So think about this hugecommunity, right?
And there's only one doctor inthis town, one sheriff.
So imagine the amount of deathsthat just occurred based on
illnesses that weren't able tobe treated because of lack of
doctors existing in the town,because this was meant to be a
coal mining town.
But I feel like coal miningtowns, gold mining towns, all
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these towns that were cultivatedby people specifically known
for one source, they alleventually depart from that area
.
And it becomes towns like maybeAvella or this town, bannock.
There's something to be saidabout this and it makes me
wonder how many people who'vedied on top of Everything else,
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the tragedy, just based onnatural illnesses and stuff like
that, and I'm sure that plays ahuge factor on the influence
that's going on with theparanormal activity there.
There's also.
There's actually been somerecordings here in Bannock as
well, so a couple of people thathave been in this town to do
recordings which was GhostAdventures, haunted History,
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ghost Town, terror and BannockDays Festival.
I want to talk about bannockdays festival.
So there's an annual historicalreenactment, with some
attendees claiming to have heardwhispers, screams and seen
mysterious figures during theovernight setup.
Dude, the bannock days festival.
That's fascinating to me.
When is it?
I want to go I would go.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I would would go, I would go to this, I would go to
the band.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It is an annual historical reenactment and I
feel doesn't in Pennsylvaniadon't they do reenactments?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
At Gettysburg, at Gettysburg, yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We should cover that at some point too.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We should get back to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh, dude, Gettysburg would be good.
That would be a really coolexperience.
But let's talk about some ofthe incidents that took place
here.
We're going to get back intothe Henry Plummer story so they
call it the lynching treemurders and Bannock's most
infamous chapter centers aroundHenry Plummer, who we kind of
tapped into, and he was a townsheriff by day and leader of a
ruthless outlaw gang by night.
By 1863, plummer and hisinnocence were suspected of
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robbing and murdering over 100people.
After months of bloodshed,vigilantes took justice into
their own hands.
They stormed the sheriff'soffice and hung Plummer without
trial along.
Do you call it shadow figures,shadow ghosts or apparitions
taking place and done throughthe gallows and others from the
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beams of the local buildings?
So they didn't just do thisfrom the gallows, they were
doing this in like every randompart of the town that they could
hang somebody, every randompart of the town that they could
hang somebody.
Imagine living back in thattime and that was just kind of
like a common occurrence thatyou would witness.
Like that was such a barbarictime.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It was just different times For America.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It was just different times and I can't even fathom
Evolution, jake, the evolutionof morality and principles, but
that's just like kind of wild tome.
You know that this was such a anormal thing to take place.
And they say, people say, andthe trees still remember.
Uh, people say the trees stillremember.
So the trees in this ghost town?
Visitors report hearingcreaking ropes, swaying in the
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wind when there's no breeze, andwhispers that repeat the last
words of those hanged Ghosthunters have even captured
disembodied voices saying itwasn't me, he made me do it.
I wonder if the it wasn't mewould be one of the suspected
gang members and that he made medo it would have been Henry
Plummer, maybe Because wealready have a history back in
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the 1600s with Salem, wherepeople were falsely accused of
bad things, of witchcraft.
I wouldn't be surprised ifpeople were simply murdered
because someone suspected themof doing something, and I'm sure
that could leave a reallynegative energy behind in a
ghost town.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What was the drowning ?
We were talking about thedrowning Grasshopper Creek, yeah
, yeah, what was that one about?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So this one is considered one of the more
tragic stories, and it's alsokind of bizarre too as well,
because it involves a young boythis time.
Not a young girl it's alwayslike a little girl, but now it's
a young boy and he drowned inGrasshopper Creek while panning
for gold with his father.
The boy's body wasn't found fordays and when it was recovered,
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the townspeople noted a strangesmile on his face, like he'd
seen something beautiful beneaththe surface.
Now that can be I don't knowhow much of that part is true
that whole smile on the facethat could be just a product of,
like, the conditions that thebody was in for a couple of days
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, but I think that's terriblysad that any child would die.
But I guess, apparently eversince, multiple visitors have
reported seeing a small boy inold-fashioned clothes walking
near the creek and he'll smileat you and then he'll vanish,
very typical of a ghost, andsome claim to have seen wet
footprints appearing in the dirtwith no child in sight.
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Psychics say that the boy isn'tlost, he's just waiting, but we
don't know what he's waitingfor.
So let's think of this littleboy.
Right, he's searching for gold,for his father Dies, drowns,
right, but he's smiling.
It makes me wonder if he foundlike the mother load of gold.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Oh shit, they would have found it by now.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
We don't know that, though.
What if it's one of thosesituations where it was in a
very discreet location, right?
Nah, Maybe he was happy becausehe found the mother load of
gold.
Maybe you know he was like yeahand he slipped and fell and hit
his head and fell in the water.
I know it sounds terrible, butI'm trying to think of a reason
why he'd be smiling.
I don't think anybody wouldwant to smile in the eyes of
death, but yeah, I find thatvery interesting.
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I also want to talk about hotelmead.
So I, specifically, was justgoing to do an episode on hotel
mead in this ghost town, uh, butthen I decided I wanted to do a
broader episode about bannock.
So for me I feel like we canhave, we want to revisit, uh,
hotel mead was the uh courthousethat turned into a hotel.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, it was a courthouse that turned into a
luxury hotel.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Uh, so this is where some of the darkest stuff that
took place in town happened.
Uh, so is at the center of oneof bandic's darkest stories.
In the late 1800s, a youngwoman was reportedly found
hanged in her hotel room undermysterious circumstances.
Some say it was suicide.
Others believe she was murderedby a jilted lover or corrupt
official.
Huh, a corrupt official?
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I wonder if that would be HenryPlummer.
He was capable of getting awaywith shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he'stied into this story.
Guests and investigators havereported seeing the apparition
of a woman in a long black dressoh, this is a little bit
different than what we're usedto In a long black dress
standing at the top of thestaircase.
She's often seen staringblankly or suddenly turning
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toward you with a scream beforedisappearing.
Cold spots and flickeringlights are common in room 10,
said to be there where she died.
I wonder, I know, I don't knowwhat the possibility is, but I
mean a woman who may have knownsomething about someone, and I
feel like there is a tie-in withHenry Plummer on this.
Yeah, you know what I mean,because if there's suspicion, if
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she had no reason, if there isnothing stated about why she
would commit suicide and peoplethink it was actually set up by
someone who loved her.
I would be.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
She had some dirt on him.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
she had some dirt on him.
She had some dirt on him.
She had some dirt yeah, I feellike she had some dirt, I don't
know.
I feel like there's somethingto be dissected there.
I do want to talk about hotelmean more in the future when we
do future that could be likeit's whole fucking a whole, oh,
absolutely, and I feel like.
I feel like if we were to evervisit you know, this ghost town,
I feel like that would be agreat place to start.
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I also want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, I'll tell you a great place to start.
What's a great place to start,then?
Schoolhouse.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh yeah, so we mentioned the schoolhouse
earlier.
It's called the SchoolhouseShadows.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's where I want to start, that's where we're
going and you're staying over.
All right, you tell me aboutthe over at the school.
Hang out with all the kids andstuff like that.
Uh-huh, all right.
Um, so this is the oldschoolhouse.
It still stands today.
Yep, it's chill.
It's chilling how intact itremains, they claim.
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Locals believe it's haunted byseveral several children who
died during a don't tell me afire.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't know how you pronounce this d-i-p-h-i-t
diphtheria yeah why are youlaughing at that?
No, it's just like I just notlaughing at that in the 1870s it
happened many of them wereburied in shallow graves just
behind the school due to therapid spread.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's crazy to think about, uh visitors visitors
often hear the sound of chalkwriting on a board desk, moving
or faint childlike giggles, eventhough the building is just
completely empty.
This is where.
This is why I want you to stay.
This is why I want you to stay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
One of the stories.
It involves a local tour guide.
Locked up the school for thenight.
Locked it up Feeling good.
Only to hear the bell ringingin the school, and then, when
you went back in the morning,every desk was rearranged and
moved how do you explain that?
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Okay.
Well, first off, it wasrearranged into a circle.
Nonetheless, either let's talkabout.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let's bring up david and laura real quick.
Do they not use a bell?
They, they do.
I want to know the validity andimportance of using a bell when
it comes to speaking to theparanormal, because it seems
like it seems like ghosts have athing for bells as well, when
it comes to communicating.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Go watch episode two, blackraft Salem episode.
We do ghost hunting.
At the end of it you could seethe bell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I know, but how does one come to the?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't know, but the good news, jake, we're on
episode nine right now and nextepisode is episode ten.
David and Laura will be joiningus.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
We are not going to be talking about a location on
episode ten.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They'll be answering all these questions.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So this is actually very fascinating because we're
talking about all these kidsdying right from this disease.
What's interesting about thisis this is most likely where the
beginning of the end of thistown to happen, because you're
talking about a whole generation.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're talking about a whole generation of kids dying
, right.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, what can it?
What can a town do after thatwhen they lose a whole
generation?
That would be kind of expectedto maintain, right, the
population of a town.
I feel like that was be kind ofexpected to maintain the
population of a town.
I feel like that was thebeginning of the end of this
town is when that happened, Ithink the perfect storm, right,
you got that.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You got the gold mining rush kind of faded out
right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
All that.
It's perfect storm and boompeople die.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, kids die, which is terrible, terrible, crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But let's also talk about this.
One's actually very interesting.
All right, this one's actuallyvery interesting.
It's called the Death of SarahSally Gray.
So Sarah Gray, known as Sally,was the wife of a local miner
who fell ill during a harshMontana winter.
When her husband didn't returnfrom a supply run, sally froze
to death in their one-room shacktrying to keep her infant
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daughter warm.
The child was later found alive, curled in her mother's arms.
That's very sad andheartbreaking.
Today, visitors report hearinga soft lullaby being hummed near
the side of the gray cabin.
Some say they've seen a womanwrapped in a shawl wandering the
hills, always searching, neverspeaking, and others also
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describe waking up in a nearbyguest cabins to find a baby size
handprint on the windows.
Um, how does one survive in thehands of a body that dies from
the cold?
I feel like eventually, overtime, the body heat would no
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longer keep that child.
Depends on how long they werethere.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm very curious about that.
I mean, if you're cold andyou're trapped outside, body
heat keeps you warm right andthey're saying that they hear,
like this lullaby right beinghummed.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
To me I would suspect that that's what the woman was
doing to keep the child fromstressing, like to keep the
child calm as she was humming,of course, yeah, from stressing,
like to keep the child calm asshe was humming, of course, yeah
, I, this is actually kind of.
This one's actually a littlebit more sad because this kind
of just sheds a light on theconditions, the living
conditions, of what it was likeback in the 1800s, especially
montana, and montana is knownfor not only getting super cold
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but like mass amounts of snow ohyeah, like even when I went up
there to visit three years ago.
I went during the winter time.
It was mind-boggling how muchsnow was on the ground in the
mountains.
Oh my gosh, it was so much snow.
It was really cool.
But also all I can imagine islike having to confront that
weather back in the 1800swithout what we have today in a
fucking one bedroom cabin withno insulation.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yep, wow, fuck that.
That is crazy.
What crazy?
What about the vanishing miners?
As we're talking about the gold, I mean this town to me is it's
gold rush.
Mm-hmm, I feel like this townwas made from the gold diggers,
right.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The vanishing miners.
Like these, miners were diggingfor gold.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I feel like it's a combination between the mining
part and also the corruptsheriff.
Because he was responsible forover 100 murders.
So it makes me wonder if it's acombination of both the
vanishing mine, I mean.
I feel like this is likeapplicable to any mining like
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town in America.
People just gone missing.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right.
Well, there's dozens of storiesabout prospectors who struck
gold in the hills surroundingBannock and then disappeared
without a trace.
One group of three miners waslast seen celebrating in the
saloon talking about a new claim.
The next morning their cabinwas found ransacked, blood
stained the walls but the bodieswere never found.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I feel like he's tied to all of this.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm with you Today.
Hikers report hearing pickaxesstriking rock deep in abandoned
mines.
Other scenes lantern hearingpickaxes striking rock deep in
abandoned mines.
Other scenes lantern lightsflickering in areas long
collapsed.
Locals say the town won't letgo of its gold, or the man who
tried to take it.
Yeah, I'm going with, uh, thesheriff.
At the beginning of thisepisode we were talking sheriff
or serial killer.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, plumber which I believe he was a combination of
both he was the sheriff plusthe serial killer.
The fact that his, uh, hisplace was ransacked after he
talked about a huge claim.
Come on, man, the only peoplewho have the ability to do that
are people in power.
That is pretty crazy.
Yeah, wow.
And obviously, you know,anybody in power has their
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little pack of goons who doeverything they ask them to.
So it would make sense thatthis dude has devised this whole
power, the whole power, uh,this power set up to make sure
he's ahead of the town.
It's interesting, I wonder if,when they figured out, it was
him that was responsible.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I want to say he was, I feel like it's more plausible
, got in sync, my guts going off.
He was jake.
There's something I want totalk about, though, because
growing up in a small town, howwe grew up, yes, there's always
that atmosphere, there's alwaysthat energy, there's always that
vibe of where we grew up, rightI don't really know how to
explain, like where we grew up,other than small town yeah right
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, 500 people.
I don't know what the fuck thepopulation I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We have no red light.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
There's cows on the road right.
The funnest thing to do is gocow tipping like.
That's where we grew up andthere's always been an energy
attached to our hometown yeahwe've never really talked about.
Actually, now that I think aboutit because, as we're talking
about this episode, it'sbringing me back to a valopia
the silent that isn't so silent.
They talk about benax mosthaunting feature.
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They literally say the words,the atmosphere itself.
Many visitors describe anunnatural silence, a pressure in
the air, as if the town isholding its breath, and I swear
to you where we grew up has thatsame feeling to me.
It really, really does and Ithink that's why you and I have
always like ran from there yeahand I think I don't know, we did
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say to another episode where wego back and it's like a little
more inspiring and peaceful, butthere is that feeling in that
town of like it's tense, it'svery trapped.
Is that it?
I don't know, but it's justfunny because I feel like our
hometown and, uh, bannock sharesomething very similar.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, Bella is about 100 years away from being a
ghost town.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Our population has not gone up, it's only gone down
a little by little every year.
And I wonder, because it's justthe opportunity that it was
known for is not really thereanymore?
We had a bit of a frackingcraze that was going on in the
area there for a minute.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like the gold rush.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, but I don't know if that's really as
prominent as it was, like 10, 15years ago when I was still no I
think it's still doing good,but it's still doing, it's not
it's not like it was.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, ghost hunters often say that, uh, bannock is
just, is not just one haunting.
The entire town is a layeredecho of the past, with each
building holding its own tragictale, and I feel like jake,
that's beautiful.
This kind of sets us up.
This kind of sets us up to talkabout a fellow pa in an episode
, and I think we need to.
I think you and I need to do alittle more research on our
(31:19):
hometown.
Personally, I really think wedo the shades of death episode,
episode one.
If you're, if you're listeningor if you're watching on youtube
, make sure you go check thatepisode out.
That's Jake and I's hometown.
There's a crazy story.
My bloodline's tied to it.
I just feel like Bannock,montana, avella, pa, I feel like
there's a lot here.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We're going to revisit Bannock for sure,
because there's so much tounpack with this town and I feel
like this episode's kind oflike a good briefing for it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, you could almost.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like you said, we could do many episodes on inside
bannock exactly, and I I think,yeah, we definitely need to
revisit it and we turn it into aseries I like that, let's turn
it into a series because andthis will just be episode one of
the series I might even renamethe title of it like episode one
like part one of the series,because there's a lot to dissect
(32:12):
here.
There's an abundance amount ofghost hauntings that take place
in this town that I feel like wejust need more time to dissect.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I got a better idea.
Instead of us figuring it out,why don't we let them decide?
Yeah, if you're listening tothis, I know.
Obviously if you're on Appleand Spotify, you can't comment,
but let us know.
On Patreon, patreoncom, slash,blackcraft, cult, or if you're
on YouTube and you're watchingthe video right now, while
you're watching the premiere, hi.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Hope you're having a great day today.
Leave a comment right here, letus know.
I mean, should we make this apart series?
Because, I'm kind of interestedin this one.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We it because well we're not.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What if they don't want to?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
extend it.
We're going to extend it,whether they like it or not,
what the fuck I'm reallyinterested in this.
There's a lot of stuff that wehave not covered, and I feel
like this is a good start to getpeople asking questions, so
maybe doing some of the researchthemselves too as well, because
we kind of want this to be acommunal thing.
Everybody that's interested inwhat we're doing.
I kind of want them to be apart of it too as well did this
story come from someone from 666club or no?
(33:09):
I.
I came across this by because Iwas trying to look for an area
that was very similar to a smalltown that just kind of doesn't
exist anymore.
I like it and I know ghost townsare like they're not as near as
common as like a building innew orleans you know right so I,
I just feel like there's a lotto dissect here and I, I, I am
for sure, going to revisit uh,revisit uh, the bannock ghost
(33:31):
town, and because there's just alot here to dissect this was a
nice, uh, brief brief.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
This is a little foreplay, if you will.
Briefing a little foreplaybefore you get into other parts.
Foreplay you know what I meanyeah, kind of like that sure
episode nine episode bannock,montana.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It was a short one it was a short one.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It was a short one it's short one, hey, if you want
to reach that, 100 episodes, no, no, I'm just kidding I, I do
think that this to me is like,because the problem is is we
could, like you said, we coulddeep dive this whole thing it
would turn into like a four hourlong episode.
Yeah, I think this is a nicenice briefing, uh, where we
could do break it into differentparts and and.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I like that, like Hotel Mead there's a lot more to
Hotel Mead Correct.
I think there's more to thatschoolhouse too.
I think there's more to thatschoolhouse as well, and that's
why I want to turn it into adifferent part series.
So I'm really a multi-partseries, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But what if I think our plan might backfire?
What if everyone goes and in acomment right now, and they
don't want to hear anything more?
Well then, I guess we're happywe did it short.
I guess we're happy we did itshort.
Episode 9, bannock MontanaEpisode 10, let's talk about it
for a second.
We got David and Laura comingup.
This is going to be a specialepisode, I think.
As Jake and I always like tosay, we are not ghost experts,
(34:45):
we are not paranormal expertsHell, hell.
We're not even experts inpodcast world.
But we're not living no, that,don't say that.
Don't say that, don't say that,don't say that's bad words I'm
just kidding.
Um, we're just not experts atthis, but I thought we, jake,
actually had a great idea tobring david and laura on, yeah,
uh, to kind of just kind of giveus a little lesson more insight
(35:05):
.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
More insight, kind of like a class give us like a
little teaching I.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's actually another good thing.
If you have any questions forDavid and Laura and you're
watching us on YouTube, makesure you go leave a comment
right there and we'll have Davidand Laura answer your questions
, and also patreoncom slashblackcraft cult.
We'll put a little post up forsubscribers only.
You'll be able to ask David andLaura some questions.
Maybe we even have you call inon that show.
That would actually be a goodthat's where we start the calls,
(35:30):
there we go.
I love that.
That's where we're starting thecalls, if this Bluetooth ever
works.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
We're going to call the episode episode 10,
Paranormal 101.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Ooh, Part one Did you just come up with that I did
Wow Yay.
Okay, thanks for all the love.
The love has been crazy onYouTube.
The love has been crazy onApple, spotify, patreon,
everything.
Make sure you go check outblackcraftcoffeecom,
blackcraftcultcom.
We hit some promo codes on thepast episode.
(35:58):
Yep, we'll see if anyone gotthem.
They went like one second.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
We're not going to spoon food of this one, or speed
food, speed, speed, oh my GodSpoon.
Feed, oh my God Spoon feed.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, that one I'm going to spoon feed you Ready.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right now, here we go .
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Blackcraftcoffeecom.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Blackcraftcultcom.
Use promo code spoon.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh, is that another one?
Use promo code.
Spoon, I'm going to spoon feedyou he should be speened.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Use promo code spoon.
I appreciate you,blackcraftcoffeecom.
Use promo code Spoon.
Actually, I'm not going to putany promo codes up today.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Nevermind, I was going to do it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
What do you want to do?
I'll let you pick.
We did 30% off how aboutgiveaway?
Oh, you want to just give awaysomething yeah, give away.
Well, that's how the fuck youcan.
All right, we're not doing apromo code.
Jake fucked it up.
We'll see you.
Episode 10, paranormal 101blame jake.
F's in the chat for jake, we'llsee you.
(37:06):
This is not what, not?
Bye?
Hey, oh yeah, whatnotcom.
No wait, app store, whatnotblack?
We'll see you in.
This is not WhatNot Bye, hey,oh yeah, whatnotcom.
No wait, app Store, whatnotBlackraft Call See you.
F's in the chat for Jake Shutup.
No promo code because of JakeF's in the chat Bye, that's mean
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