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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Amanda Jenna Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Tell me the truth.
I think we're both just outhere surviving.
If you guys are from southernMinnesota, you know the sickness
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(00:29):
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(00:57):
, it's got me.
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It will help you feel better.
And y'all, first of all, shoutout to Peggy at Wellspring
Clinic in Rochester, minnesota.
But even the quality of myvoice from when I like got there
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yesterday I had like a baritonevoice.
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So, well, I'm not
quite baritone, but I'm
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and stuff.
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Hey, oho, for sure I do have.
I did.
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She have had it for a long time.
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cube maker that I had no ideaabout.
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.
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was like oh my gosh.
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Speaker 1 (03:53):
What a fancy little
refrigerator you have.
Who?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
knew.
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peggy, because I couldn't talkyesterday.
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Okay, well, I see
really no time like the present
to get into it.
Okay, so the case I will becovering today, y'all, we're
going back to the early 1900sand we're going to be discussing
another quack doctor, dr LindaHazard.
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Her name is quite fitting, ifyou ask me.
This is a case of it's ablended case, really of medical
malpractice and fraud,highlighting the dangers of
pseudoscience.
And just before I get superinto it, I'm just going to say
like there will probably belittle to no banter in this
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episode, because poor Jenna ismuch more under the weather than
I.
So I guess if you enjoy anepisode with little to no banter
, this one is for you, baby,there are no trigger warnings in
this episode.
The main source that I used forthe episode was a book titled
Starvation Heights by Greg Olson.
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Also, shout out, greg Olson,you're an awesome author.
I've read other books by him.
I used digital archives oftrial transcripts and news
articles, and all sources that Iused will be listed in the show
notes.
So this quack Dr Hazard usedsome insanely twisted methods in
her medical practice.
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While there were many victimsunder Dr Hazard's care, there
are two sisters that mostarticles, books and other
sources focus on because theywere a tipping point in Linda's
career.
So today we'll cover Linda'sbackground, several of her
victims, with an emphasis on theWilliamson sisters and Linda's
trial.
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So let's get into it.
Linda Burfield Hazard was bornon December 18, 1867 in Carver
County, minnesota.
Linda was the oldest of sevenchildren born to Susan Neal
Burfield and Montgomery Burfield.
Linda was an outgoing child whocherished climbing trees rather
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than playing with dolls.
Her early life was, on thesurface, relatively unremarkable
.
The family's views on nutritionand exercise would surely shape
Linda's future.
The family's views on nutritionand exercise would surely shape
Linda's future.
The family was vegetarian forthe most part, with only small
portions of meat offeredoccasionally.
Susan never forced her childrento take or try any of the meat.
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Linda was largely self-educated, reading books about health and
medicine.
When she was 18 years old shemarried Edwin Perry and the two
settled in Fergus Falls,minnesota.
No-transcript.
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The marriage unfortunatelyended in divorce and Linda moved
to Minneapolis.
By her early 20s Linda hadbecome obsessed with alternative
medicine, particularly fastingas a form of treatment.
She was fascinated by the powerof nature's ability to heal and
firmly believed that overeatingwas the main cause of major
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illnesses.
She believed that fasting wouldremove toxins from the body,
correcting imbalances andallowing the body to heal itself
.
She was largely inspired bybooks written by American
physician Edward H Dewey, whowas a pioneer in therapeutic
fasting.
Despite not having formalmedical education or legitimate
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credentials, linda sought topresent herself as a medical
professional.
Studying fasting and itssupposed benefits, linda was
able to successfully set herselfup as a practitioner of
alternative medicine.
In 1902, her first patient,gertrude Young, died under her
care of apparent starvation.
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After undergoing a 40-day fastprescribed by Linda, the
Hennepin County coroner launchedan official inquest into
Gertrude's death in hopes ofbringing murder charges against
Linda.
Linda was investigated, but inthe end the panel of the three
physicians conducting theinquest couldn't bring formal
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charges against Linda becausetechnically she didn't have a
medical license and thereforethey could not pursue a
malpractice case.
Additionally, gertrude was awilling participant in her own
treatment, so that was also adead end.
Soon after the death of herfirst patient, she met Samuel
Chrisman Hazard, who was knownfor being a drunk lecher and
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swindler.
It was suggested that thismarriage was more of a business
decision than it was an act oflove.
Linda thought the image of thetwo of them would be good for
her practice.
You know him being confident,having a handsome masculine
appearance and a background inthe military.
She thought this would bringcredibility to the practice, but
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as it turns out, samuel wasactually dishonorably discharged
from the military due tomisappropriation of military
funds.
He had been married twicebefore and had apparently you
know, I don't know forgotten toofficially divorce one of his
ex-wives.
Samuel was charged with bigamydue to failure to divorce the
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previous wife.
He was prosecuted in 1904 andsent to prison for two years.
Samuel had planned to leaveLinda and reconcile his
relationship with his formerwife, but Linda would have
absolutely no part in thatbecause, you know what, it
didn't fit her plans.
Having only visited him once inprison, she somehow managed to
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get him wrapped around herfinger and make the decision to
stay with her.
Upon his release, the twodecided to leave Minneapolis, as
they had earned themselvesreputations for the wrong
reasons.
They packed their bags andmoved to Washington State, where
they settled in Olala in KitsapCounty, which is a small town
off of the Puget Sound.
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The decision to move to Seattlearea was likely also a strategic
business move for Linda,because at the time the state's
medical licensing law had aloophole that grandfathered in
practitioners of alternativemedicine who lacked formal
training or an official medicaldegree.
Thus Linda got to call herselfa doctor.
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Linda's plan was to save upenough money so that she could
build a sanitarium.
She would name the propertyWilderness Heights a sanitarium.
She would name the propertyWilderness Heights To earn money
.
She set up practice in Seattleand would travel each day from
Olala to Seattle until hersanitarium was completed.
Her practice attracted manypatients seeking an alternative
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approach to medicine.
Her methods included fasting,enema treatments to rid the body
of waste and promote a cleanbasis in the body, as well as
massage therapy sessions.
In January 1908, daisy Haglandcame to the practice and
suggested that she fast for 50days.
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In her late 30s Daisy would diein February before completing
the 50 days.
Ida Wilcox would die the sameyear.
Despite the deaths under hercare, linda would go on to
practice her alternativemedicine.
She even published a book youguys titled Fasting for the Cure
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of Disease.
Two more patients died in 1909,with more to follow in 1910.
Her practice began to receivemore attention after the death
of engineer Earl Edward Erdmund.
Mr Erdmund was a civil engineerwho had come to Seattle after
working on a project on theColumbia River.
He had complaints ofindigestion and, after seeing
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several doctors with no relief,he called Dr Hazard's office in
the Northern Bank and TrustBuilding.
After three weeks of goingwithout food, daily enemas and
being massaged by the fastingspecialist, the 24-year-old
wasted away.
A friend of his, who deploredthe treatment, called an
ambulance to take him to thehospital where doctors would
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order an urgent bloodtransfusion.
He was so thin and frail thathis ribs could be counted
through the hospital sheets.
And you guys, as I'm readingthis, I'm like did I write there
were no trigger warnings?
Because maybe this is.
This is so sad, it's horrible.
This is a very tragic case.
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So back to Earl.
His eyes were sunken so deepthat one had to lean over the
bed rail to make eye contactwith him.
Unfortunately, earl died on thetable before the transfusion
could be completed.
The next day the headlines inthe Seattle Daily Times read
woman MD kills another patient.
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Sadly there was nothing thatcould be done about the case.
The county coroner said thathis hands were tied.
This was not a new journey forLinda to traverse.
She had been the spectacle ofbad press before.
In court battle after courtbattle.
She had been both vilified andadored.
Shockingly, the following dayshe was vindicated in the
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headline news.
The State Board of MedicalExaminers made the news that
Linda Burfield Hazard, thefasting specialist, and 28
others were entitled to practicetheir controversial cures.
They were all granted licenses.
The others that were grantedlicensures included
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chiropractors, osteopaths,doctors practicing hot air
therapy, mechanotherapy which isa tissue rehabilitation and
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electrotherapeutics.
Despite the bad press, therewere still many people that were
eager to take advantage of hermedical theories.
In the span of two months, twomore men died under her care.
A patient named Ivan Flux hadcome to Washington from England
to buy a ranch.
Ivan was fascinated by hertreatments and opted to place
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himself under her care.
She insisted that he fast tocure his ailments.
As his treatment progressed, hebecame weaker and weaker and
after 53 days 53 days he died.
It should be noted that whileIvan was under Linda's care, she
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somehow managed to take controlof his finances.
We'll find out that this is notonly a conniving skill of hers,
but also largely part of herdevious scheme.
Dorothea Dora, as she wasreferred to, and Claire
Williamson were the orphaneddaughters of a well-to-do
English officer in the empiricalarmy medical service.
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Neither sister was married andthey were in their early 30s,
with an estate estimated to bebetween somewhere in the tens,
if not hundreds, of millions ofdollars in today's money.
They were best friends, theirbond strengthened by male
suitors seemingly only aftertheir wealth.
They attracted plenty ofattention from men, but they
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weren't interested intraditional courtship.
Having spent their livestraveling the world, they
traveled near and far to visitdistant relatives, which was
sadly the only remains of theirfamily tree.
Their father died shortly afterClaire was born and their
mother when Claire was 14 andDora 18.
They had had two sisters, etheland Gertrude, who also
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tragically died when they werevery young.
Beyond their distant aunts,uncles and cousins, they also
continued to have a strongconnection with their beloved
governess, margaret Conway.
Margaret began working for thefamily the day after Claire was
born.
With the death of their parents, margaret became very close and
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extremely important to thegirls' lives.
She was like a mother to them.
From childhood they called herTootie and after their mother's
death Margaret referred to Doraand Claire as my Girls.
So sweet, while their fortuneafforded them world travel,
homes around the world and awardrobe.
A person could hardly dream up.
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Travel homes around the worldand a wardrobe a person could
hardly dream up, it had notbrought them the one thing that
they sought over everything elsea sense of well-being.
If not their money, what wouldmake them happy?
These were often questionsasked by the rich and unhappy,
and one that Claire frequentlyposed to Dora.
Both Europe and America weredotted with centers for healing
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and sanitariums, all promisingrobust health to those with
brimming pocketbooks.
The sisters were like manyother faddists and had been to
many institutes around the world.
It became almost a hobby or alifestyle for them, forever
chasing endless good health.
It was September 1910 and thesisters were on holiday in the
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Empress Hotel in Victoria,british Columbia.
While there, the sisters saw asmall but intriguing
advertisement in the SeattleDaily Times newspaper for Dr
Linda Hazard.
Claire responded to the noticerequesting a copy of Dr Linda
Hazard's book Fasting for theCure of Disease, with a personal
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note from Claire brieflydescribing some of the sisters'
quote-unquote ailments.
Five days later, the sistersreceived a copy of Dr Hazard's
book in the mail.
The two were consumed by thebook, claire proclaiming that
she agreed with every word.
Claire proclaiming that sheagreed with every word.
A quote from her book is itshould not require an exhaustive
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argument to establish the factthat disease has its own origin
in impaired digestion.
Upon this fundamental truth andits development, the treatment
known as the fasting treatmentdepends on its entirety, and
long experience at varied handshas demonstrated that, whatever
the manifestation, the onlydisease is in pure blood and its
sole cause impaired digestion.
Dr Hazard's thesis was to restthe digestive system and allow
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the impurities of the body topass.
The natural cleansing processwould, in time, strengthen the
body with a fresh foundation towork upon to carry a person on
indefinitely.
The two thought that DrHazard's treatment could be
their key to a lifetime of goodhealth.
Inside the book, an insert forher sanitarium located in Olala
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Washington.
Claire and Dora wrotecorrespondence back and forth
with Linda for a couple ofmonths.
Claire and Dora wrotecorrespondence back and forth
with Linda for a couple ofmonths, claire detailing her
personal ailments and Lindasuggesting treatment regimens
for her.
To start, claire and Dora feltthat Linda was a woman of great
compassion, caring for themwithout ever having met them.
They felt that they even maybecome friends one day.
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They said of her she was thekind of person who would go to
great lengths for her patients.
They felt she had taken aspecial interest in them.
The sisters agreed that theywould go to Seattle to be under
the care of Linda, who promisedthem a lifetime of good health
following a three-week regimen,and then they decided they would
not tell their family of theirplans.
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After their three-week stay,claire planned to go back to
England to train to become akindergarten teacher and Dora to
Australia to spend time withTootie.
This is so sad.
The sisters were disappointedto learn that the sanitarium was
not yet completed due to anunprecedented rainy season in
Washington, but that Linda wouldtransfer their care there as
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soon as she was able.
In the meantime, she wouldcoordinate living arrangements
for them in a Seattle apartmentwhere she would go and visit
them personally to completetheir treatments.
To complete their treatments,treatment was a litany of odd
regimens, as I kind of mentionedbefore, but it included being
fed vegetable soup broth twice aday, having long sessions with
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enemas in the bathtub that couldlast one to several hours, and
bizarre massage therapy sessionswhere Linda would beat her
fists against the sisters'bodies.
It had been two months and thesisters had lost an alarming
amount of weight.
While in the apartment theywere delirious, each of them
fainting at random and onlybeing able to make groaning
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sounds, as recalled by aneighbor in the apartment.
It was during this time thatLinda had them transferred to
Wilderness Heights, which bythis time had earned itself a
new nickname among the localsStarvation Heights.
Wilderness Heights was becominglike a cult-like atmosphere.
The clinic was located in aremote area, making it harder
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for patients to seek help andfor patients' families to
intervene.
Linda surrounded herself with agroup of loyal followers, some
of whom were former patients.
She was manipulative to herpatients, using psychological
tactics to keep them under hercontrol.
Conveniently, on the day of thesisters' transfers, she had her
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lawyer present, who wouldassist in drawing up a new will
for them.
Their new wills would havedetailed instructions that Linda
would receive an annual cashallowance from their estate and
that she would be their guardian.
Margaret Conway received manyletters from Claire and Dora,
which was not unusual as theyroutinely stayed in touch about
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their travels around the world.
Margaret knew that they hadplanned to winter in California
with family and plans to go backto British Columbia in the
spring before finally departingto England and Australia.
There were no mentions of astop in Seattle.
On April 30, 1911, a cablegramarrived for Margaret.
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The letter read Come SS Marama,may 8th, first Class, claire.
She didn't think too much ofthis at first, though it was a
very short letter from Claire,who routinely wrote down all of
her thoughts and feelings, muchlike she was sending pages of
her diary.
Two words on the gram gaveMargaret pause.
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Picking it up again, she readit over and over and over First
Class.
Why did she write that?
Claire and Dora were women ofmeans, born into it.
They would travel nothing butfirst class.
So this wording stood out as ared flag.
She called the steamship'scompany office and learned that
the Marama was not sailing toSydney but from Sydney on May
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8th.
She knew then that somethingwas wrong, and the cablegram was
a call for help.
She reserved herself a seat onthe steamship and would head to
British Columbia and from theremake her way to Seattle and then
to Olala.
When stopping in Honolulu,margaret checked in the agent's
office to see if she had anymail.
She did in fact have acablegram waiting for her.
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The cablegram was dated May 17,1911, dispatched from Seattle
Washington less than one weekbefore, and it read Margaret
Conway, arriving SS Marama,honolulu, Ask agent for letters.
Both.
Quite well, williamson, theletter was in care of someone
she had never heard of beforeand a place she had never heard
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of before Linda Burfield Hazard,olala-hitsap County, washington
, usa.
In another letter waiting forher, claire wrote to Margaret
that she had planned to staywhere she was in Olala until
July of that year, so it madethe most sense for her to come
and visit the sisters there.
She wrote that she wouldexplain more to Margaret when
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she arrived.
Was there a problem or apossible danger that could not
be committed to paper?
Margaret wondered.
She had now learned that Claireand Dora had fallen into bad
health and were under the careof Linda Hazard, who was the
only licensed fasting doctor inthe world.
Claire wrote in a differentletter of Linda and her husband
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Samuel that they were thegreatest and most wonderful
humans.
Claire also wrote of thedoctor's recent conversation
with her about Dora and saidthat it may take months for her
to get her brain right, sayingthat she'd share more.
When Margaret arrived, margaretthought what was all this talk
about Dora's brain, what waswrong with it and what was all
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this about staying in asanitarium until July, in cabins
at that?
She stowed the letters and thecablegram and continued on her
travels, feeling so confused andso concerned.
When she arrived in BritishColumbia, she was met by Samuel
Hazard.
She recognized his name fromthe letters as the man that was
married to Linda.
He said that he would accompanyher on the last four-hour leg
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by boat to Seattle and theywould catch a launch to Alola
together.
When inquiring of the girl'sstatus, she learned that Dora
was now better, but Claire whowas now gravely ill.
Samuel told Margaret that therewas something he needed to
share with her.
He said ever so casually Clairedead, dora insane.
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Unprepared for such anannouncement, all she could do
was sit and cry.
Upon arrival at theirdestination, she met Linda
Hazard, who did not offer anycondolences.
She simply stated the facts.
The girls came to her and whenthey did, they were in a
shocking state of health.
There was no hope for eitherone of them.
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And with that we're going tohead into the old chart note
section.
Chart note chart note.
Sorry, you had to listen to mesing this by myself.
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what's happening in medicine andhealthcare.
All right, y'all.
I recently heard about theworld's smallest pacemaker
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and dissolves after it is nolonger needed.
Scientists at Northwestern alsonoted that the pacemaker is
powered by bodily fluids.
It uses a galvanic cell, whichis a simple battery that
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converts chemical energy intoelectrical energy.
There are two different metalsthat serve as electrodes to send
the electrical pulses to theheart, and those electrodes form
a battery when in contact withsurrounding biofluids that act
as conducting electrolytes.
Children were the main drivingforce behind the creation of
this device.
Experimental cardiologist IgorEfimov at Northwestern said,
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about 1% of children are bornwith congenital heart defects,
regardless of whether they livein a low resource or high
resource country.
The good news is that thesechildren only need temporary
pacing after surgery.
In about seven days or so, mostpatients' heart will
self-repair, but those sevendays are critical.
Now we can place this tinypacemaker on a child's heart and
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stimulate with a soft, gentle,wearable device, and no
additional surgery is necessaryto remove it.
So super cool, super wild.
Look into it, and the sourcethat I used to look that up will
be in the show notes.
Okay, back to the case.
Margaret was taken to olala, towilderness heights, to see dora.
She was immediately alarmed tosee her bones protrude so
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sharply.
Dora couldn't even sit withoutpain.
She was only 60 pounds.
Dora pleaded, thataded, thatMargaret take her away from the
sanitarium.
However, if Linda was present,dora's tune changed In the
presence of Linda.
She was sure to state that sheenjoyed being there and that Dr
Hazard was such a caring personwho was indeed curing her
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ailments.
This was not the case for onlyDora, but others at the
sanitarium.
Margaret had been approachedseveral times by others begging
her to take them with her whenshe left, in addition to
patients raising awareness ofthe dangers at the sanitarium,
margaret was also met in privateconversation with a nurse,
sarah Robinson.
Sarah wanted Margaret tounderstand one thing fully If Dr
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Hazard's treatments failed, shewould not be held accountable.
The state board supported thedoctor's rights to the fasting
cure.
You need to get Dora out ofhere before it's too late, sarah
said.
Margaret knew that Sarah wasright and immediately went to
pack the girls' trunks withtheir belongings.
She felt that Dora was strongenough to make the journey out
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of this sanitarium and she wouldgo to great lengths to make
sure her life was saved.
Margaret informed Linda of herplans to leave the sanitarium
with Dora the next morning andthat she would like to collect
all of the belongings ofClaire's that Linda so
disgustingly took upon herselfto have for personal use,
including her clothing.
Linda snarled Dora is not goinganywhere.
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It is not in her best interestto travel in the state that she
is in.
It is in her sister's wish thatshe stay in her cabin.
Unfortunately, kitsap Countyhad deemed Dora incompetent, at
the recommendation of Linda andSam, putting Linda in charge of
all of her personal and businessaffairs, knowing she'd need
outside assistance to get Doraout of there.
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Margaret sent a cablegram tothe girl's uncle, john Herbert,
in Portland Oregon, requestinghe come to Olala at once.
By this time Linda was holdingmail, locking the box so no one
else could see what was comingand going.
Margaret was unsure if thecablegram would reach John, but
it was her only chance at savingDora.
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On July 19, 1911, john Herbertarrived in Seattle to the
fasting specialist's office.
He told Linda that he receiveda telegram to come at once and
fully agreed that a change incare for Dora was necessary,
with plans of removing his nieceimmediately, removing his niece
immediately.
Linda informed him that she wasthe guardian appointed to Dora,
given her mental weakness, andthat he must obtain her consent
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before going anywhere.
She told John that she would,you know, consider consulting
with her lawyer over the matteryou know when she had time and
she'd get back to him.
And then she turned away totend to her patients.
Margaret was beyond relieved tosee John arrive at the
sanitarium and then she turnedaway to tend to her patients.
Margaret was beyond relieved tosee John arrive at the
sanitarium and she sharedfurther what had taken place and
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of Claire's unfortunate fate.
Linda arrived back in Olala thatafternoon and informed John
that her lawyer advised her notto let Dora be released anywhere
until her accounts were settled.
She handed John a billingstatement for the amount of
$2,000.
This $2,000 would translate to$66,878 in today's money, with
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no details of the expenses.
John was furious about theexorbitant amount.
Linda snarked back I am alicensed physician and I am
allowed to charge whatever I seefit for my services and if I
wanted to, I could charge more.
Negotiations went back andforth.
Sam and Linda insisted that thecharges were warranted and John
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fumed that they were extortingmoney from the vulnerable.
A settlement was finallyreached.
John gave Linda $250 intraveler's checks with a note
payable in three months foranother $250, added to the
amount of $375.90, which wasalready credited to the account.
And it was done.
The money bought freedom.
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This amount, by the way, wouldtranslate to $29,259 today, and
with that John, margaret andDora left Wilderness Heights.
Lucian Agassiz, british ViceCounsel in Tacoma, washington,
met with John, margaret and Dorathe next day.
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Margaret took charge in sharingthe story of what happened to
the sisters under the care ofLinda Hazard.
Lucian was absolutely appalledat the idea of two of His
Majesty's subjects held captiveby some charlatan doctor in the
forest of Kitsap County.
Not only that, but one of themdied.
Margaret shared furtherdetailings of the devious
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monster Linda was.
Linda had imprisoned thesisters, stolen their money,
forged and cashed personalchecks and swindled them out of
their jewels and familyheirlooms.
Margaret shared with thecouncil that all the patients
were prisoners there begging tobe saved.
There were those that fled inthe night, others who begged her
to take them with when she left.
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After discussion had ended,lucian knew that his first order
of business would be to meetwith a lawyer to get Linda
Hazard's name removed from anylegal documents regarding the
Williamson sisters and theirestate.
He worked with Frank Kelly forthis mission.
A hearing took place overDora's guardianship in Seattle.
Judge, still known for hisfairness, would oversee the
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hearing.
After it was said and done, theguardianship was voided and the
court ordered Linda to returnsome of the money paid to Dora.
Lucian was hopeful thatshedding light on the happenings
at Wilderness Heights throughthis guardianship case would
open the doors to a criminalcase, and that is exactly what
happened.
Each day that pressed onafterwards, lucian continued an
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investigation into Linda Hazardand Wilderness Heights.
With every passing day, doracontinually grew stronger.
She felt it was her duty toavenge her sister's death.
Lucian Agassi and Frank Kellycontinually pressured Kitsap
County to open a criminalinvestigation against Linda
Hazard.
The county agreed to moveforward in pursuing charges
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against Linda with the caveatthat Dora Williamson must pay
for the costs associated withthe interviews, travel and hotel
expenses for witnesses.
Only then would the county doits part.
Dora was, of course in fullagreement.
If she must pay to stop hersister's murderer, so be it.
And so it was agreed.
The judge prepared an arrestwarrant for Linda.
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Linda Hazard would be chargedwith the willful murder of
British heiress ClaireWilliamson.
The investigation uncovered thatLinda was well known to the
authorities.
The investigation uncoveredthat Linda was well-known to the
authorities.
The death of Claire Williamsonwas not an isolated incident.
King County Prosecutor MrMurphy offered previous files to
Lucian and Frank.
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The case of Louis Rader waspresented to them.
Frank Kelly knew the name well.
Louis Rader was a man of greatpotential whose time had been
cut short.
He died at the age of 46, 37days after fasting treatment
began.
His death would be only eightdays before Claire's.
He settled in Olala in 1901.
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After serving in the state'slegislature, rader was educated
and published in local magazine.
Rader was educated andpublished a local magazine,
sound Views.
Rader was initially treated athome but was moved to a hotel in
Seattle so that Linda couldmonitor his progress more
closely.
As a sanitarium was not quiteready, lucian and Frank were
fascinated by the facts of thecase as they read through the
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documents and the discovery of apotential pattern.
Officials at the healthdepartment were notified the
second week of May that therewas a man at the Outlook Hotel
in Seattle who was starving.
Health officials had heard thisbefore but felt helpless to
interject because Linda Hazardhad a license now to perform
treatment, no matter howdangerous most perceived it to
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be.
Those who willingly soughttheir treatments would not be
protected from their ownfoolishness.
They said the health officialswere to report to the higher-ups
if they had heard of hertreating any infants who died
under their care, as they sawthat as the only way to break
down the walls for a prosecution.
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But all of her patients wereadults who put themselves
voluntarily under her treatment.
Dr JE Crichton, head of thehealth department, later said
and although Louis Rader's wascertainly such a case and the
patient was the most intelligentand accomplished man, we
intervened.
Rader assured the doctors thathe was receiving great care,
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they attempted to remove himfrom the hotel, stating that all
he needed was nourishment, butRader refused to leave.
He assured the health officialsthat he was in agreement with
his care.
When Linda heard that officialswere intruding on her patient's
care at the direction of themayor, she was outraged.
She moved him to a locationthat she would not disclose and
he died at noon the next day,the 5'11 man weighing less than
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100 pounds.
The trial began in January of1912 at a county courthouse in
Port Orange.
Linda's defense team arguedthat the medical establishments
were conspiring against herbecause she was able to cure
patients and they were unable tohelp.
They also maintained that thepatients who had come to see her
were already ill, so those thatdied would have died anyway,
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even if they sought morecontroversial medical methods.
The prosecution, however,produced witnesses that were
medical experts.
They discredited her practicesand had a large amount of
evidence that proved Lindabenefited from the death of her
patients, including forgedsignatures by Linda on legal
documents.
The trial revealed not just thefatal effects of her treatments
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, but also her exploitation ofher patients' wealth and the
psychological manipulation sheemployed to maintain control
over them.
Linda refused to take anyaccountability for the death of
any of the patients andproclaimed that this was an
attack on her as a successfulwoman and an attack on natural
medical treatments.
After deliberation, the jurycame back in short order,
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finding the defendant, lindaHazard, guilty of manslaughter
of Claire Williamson Hallelujah.
She was sentenced to betweentwo and 20 years of quote hard
labor at the penitentiary inWalla Walla, washington.
Walla, walla, washington.
They have great onions, wallaWalla.
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Anyway.
She also had her medicallicense revoked, thank God,
because it was just a joke.
Anyway.
Less than three years later, ondecember 26 1915, she was
released due to her owndeclining health.
The governor at the time,ernest lister, gave her a full
pardon.
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Her and samuel then went to newzealand where she advertised
herself and worked as adietician and an osteopath.
Because dream big Linda, shepracticed there until New
Zealand government charged herunder the Medical Practitioners
Act for practicing medicinewithout a license.
In 1920, she and Samuel movedback to Olala where she opened
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another sanitarium.
The sanitarium was named theSchool of Health.
The sanitarium proved to be asuccess, but in 1935, it burnt
down, thank God.
Three years later, in her late60s, linda herself again became
ill.
She underwent a fast of her own, but it proved to be
unsuccessful.
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On June 24th 1938, she died atthe age of 70.
Karma the number of patients todie under her care are unknown,
but estimates are between 20and 40 people.
Dorothea recovered her healthand moved back to England where
she later married and lived areportedly happy life.
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And that, friends, is the storyof Linda Hazard, the quack
doctor, or one of the, I'm sure,of the early 1900s.
But I did find a fun fact thatI wanted to share with y'all,
and if you have lived in or beento Washington State, you will
probably know this.
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Well, you won't know this factmaybe, but you will know what
I'm talking about.
So one of Linda's victims, aman by the name of Ivor Haglund,
was just a small child when hismother was killed by Dr Hazard,
and he himself was also apatient of hers.
He went on to form thesuccessful seafood restaurant in
Seattle called Ivers.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
No, ivers, you guys.
That's on the pier.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh my gosh, great
fish and chips, great, great
fish and chips.
So while Linda killed hismother from starvation, ivers
clam chowder would go on to feedmillions, and I loved that.
Yes, jenna is going to bejoining us in some discussion
about this case.
But so what I do findfascinating about this case is
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that some say she's a delusional, quack doctor.
But then how can she so clearlybe committing fraud to get
money from her patients?
There has to be a level ofsanity there to do that Right.
But she so clearly becommitting fraud to get money
from her patients?
There has to be a level ofsanity there to do that Right.
But she so clearly believed infasting methods and that would
become her own demise, which Ishouldn't laugh about by
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treating herself at the end ofher life.
So was she a serial killer,narcissist, delusional, I don't
know what?
Do you think All the above?
I know it's like she obviouslytruly believed in what she was
doing.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
If she treated
herself that way you know, when
she was sick he maybe listen.
I thought I was out for thecount.
I went and laid down.
I was like I'm just gonnalisten to the soothing voice of
amanda tell a story.
And then I got mad and madderand madder and kudos to you,
amanda, because I kept makingfaces and gestures.
Every time I learned somethingnew about this horrific woman.
(46:23):
And you managed to keep going.
Yeah, so it's probably goodthat I wasn't able to interject
without a coughing fit, becauseI had a lot to say.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Y'all.
I saw her finally start gettinga notepad out and she would
start scribbling things down.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah so I scribbled
some stuff.
It wasn't big enough, so we'rejust gonna go for it.
First of all, well done.
I mean thank you for bringingthis to our attention.
I love old-timey cases, uh,fascinating, and I think this
ties into our goat ball guy.
Uh, you know, with all the theuh just lack of need for
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licensure and just like, go forit.
You don't need an md to go andand best case scenario, not help
people and take their money.
Worst case scenario, take theirmoney and kill them, like this
woman.
Um, yeah, the starvationHeights.
Obviously this was uh not agood thing.
Um, 53 days of fasting what thehell?
(47:20):
Jesus didn't even fast for 53days.
It was 40 days and 40 nights inthe Bible.
So like, come on, we can't evenconceive of the.
It's not possible.
Come on, what was she thinking?
Well, I think she was a mastermanipulator.
He was like we're gonna weakenthem.
I mean, you hear about this incults, right, they, you know
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they underfeed and overwork andand cut their sleep down and uh,
so that you can like basicallycontrol people.
She was so evil.
And claire and dora oh my god,those poor ladies I know.
Um, I had to laugh.
I wrote down unusual rainy,unusual rainy season in seattle
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come on come on, guys, have youbeen there?
all right?
Uh, anyway, um, and the factthat she was called the only
licensed fasting doctor in theworld.
Well, guess what?
There that's.
For a reason there is nobodyelse doing this, because it's
not a thing.
It's not a thing.
Um so, uh, and the fact thatthis poor who's margaret, a
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cousin, a sister or something uh, she was their governess,
governess, so like their nannyyeah, shameless.
Yeah, basically their their mama, and she came and and and uh,
linda's husband was like miss uh, miss claire's dead and dora's
insane uh, hello, bedside.
Hi, nice to meet you asshat,have some remorse and some, oh
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my god, okay and actually when.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Just to interject
again, when she first arrived at
the sanitarium, they actuallytook her to see claire's body
first and she was just like ashell of what she was and for
some reason she had taken herorgans out and this was actually
part of the trial.
But y'all, I could have madethis into a five-part thing out
linda took.
Linda took claire's organs outand then it was like just a
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shell of what should have beenlike a liver left and all these
things, and she was like, well,this is obviously why she died,
like she should have beenfasting long ago, like she was
rotten from the inside out shewas rotten because you went in
there and you starved her fortwo months and people can't
survive without food.
and then you started using hershit like a psychopath wearing
her dresses, using her notebooks, wearing their family jewels,
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like.
If you guys are any sort ofinterested in looking into more
about this, I highly recommendGreg Olson's book Starvation
Heights Crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Listen, it's making
me hungry, but, um, your medical
chart note.
Oh, oh my gosh, a pacemaker thesize of a grain of rice.
I want to see it.
I'm gonna look it up and oh mygod, how cute.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
And oh, thank you,
thank you, so cute there was a
picture of a little penny onthere and they had three little
pacemakers sitting on this penny.
It's just, they're so cute.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
What a wonderful
invention oh bless, and they're
saving babies so it was like alittle glimmer of light in this
sad ass, bad woman's history.
um, yeah, and thank you for whatyou did for women.
Linda hazard, you did f all.
You made us look bad.
Okay, all right.
Um, we have a real license,right.
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And then there were.
There was a section I wrote Ijust might not say doctors
rights, ffs, I mean aboutkilling their patients.
Okay, you have a right over thevictims.
And then I wrote uncle John,yay, so he had to pay the
equivalent of $29,000 so thatthis organization could kill one
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sister and permanently disablethe other.
Yeah, I mean, okay, insult toinjury.
Basically, I wrote shebasically instilled eating
disorders in patients for herprofit, am I right?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, oh God.
But again, she obviouslybelieved in the treatment.
She treated herself that way.
Okay, but treated herself thatway and she had that cult-like
following there that worked withher, because obviously not all
of her patients died, so she hadpeople like hailing over her at
this starvation heights, likeno, no, like, no, no, this is
great Eat drink your vegetablebroth.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Listen, if you go
without some of that you know
hot Cheetos for a couple of days, you're going to feel better.
A little coffee, enema Woo, alittle zip in your zap.
You know what I'm saying.
But, like she was, this is acough medicine talking but she
claimed that these that Clairedied because she was rotten from
the inside.
Claire and dora weren't illwhen they got there, they just
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had the misfortune of beingwealthy.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah, and so like
claire's claire's ailment that
she had written in thosecorrespondence back and forth
with dora and not dora um, dr,psycho hazard, um were that.
So she had a anterior tilt toher pelvis which would create
some like back pain, and and sothis is what Linda was treating
her for.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
So let's get her down
to 60 pounds, cause that's
going to help that little pelvictilt when your body can't stand
upright because you're so.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Where you have to sit
on a pillow because your your
bony butt is causing you pain tosit, but you're also too weak
to stand.
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, to sit, but
you're also too weak to stand.
So what do you do?
Yeah, and, by the way, whileyou're weak and vulnerable,
let's have you sign all yourguardianship and your money over
.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I mean yeah horrible,
horrible, horrible woman made
me so mad.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
That made me so mad
and I I really appreciate you
sharing it, but I'm I'm so angrythat it actually made me feel a
little bit better that I couldcome I thought I was out, found
a little spunk.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
She back, cause she
mad.
No one likes a mad woman.
Hashtag Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Um, shall we sorry.
Did you have another thought?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I have so many
thoughts, but it's just going to
be more ranting and it mightend up in a coffee fit, so we
should probably move on to her,let's let's move along to a
happier note or funny note.
I'm not sure what we've got.
What do we got?
Medical mishap.
We've got a medical mishapFavorite part.
So this one is from my ownexperience and by my own.
(53:26):
I'm talking as myself.
This is Jenna Um, you know thesexy voice lady um hey, a few
years ago, when my daughter wasabout 10 years old, we paid a
visit to my mother who was inthe hospital recovering from
knee surgery.
I sat and chatted and mydaughter wandered around the
(53:47):
hospital room amusing herselfwhile her grandmother and I
talked.
She liked to make uh know, blowup turkeys out of the gloves.
You know how kids are, oh sure,classic.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
I was just letting
her do her.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
She also loves to
draw, so I thought nothing of it
when she located some tri-erasemarkers and began doodling on
the whiteboard in the room.
For those lucky listeners whomay not have had an experience
in a hospital room, thesewhiteboards are a communication
board where information aboutthe doctor nurse on duty are
located dietary concerns,rounding times and other
important messages are relayed.
(54:20):
Mom was still pretty woozy onpainkillers and dregs of
anesthesia, so we finished ourvisit and said our goodbyes,
promising to visit again thenext day.
Later that evening my dad wasin the room with my mom when a
nurse came in and asked my momto hold out her arm so she could
put an alert bracelet on.
Oh no, dad was alarmed that itwas bright red, and even more so
(54:42):
when he saw that it said dnr,do not resuscitate.
He shouted wait, don't do that.
She's not dnr, we wantresuscitation.
We want.
Why are you doing this?
The nurse pointed to thewhiteboard and the large message
on it which spelled out D N Rin large letters.
(55:03):
My daughter's idea of a joke.
I didn't know whether to laugh,cry or be impressed that my
daughter's idea of that.
She even knew what DNR was.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Oh yeah, what a
stinker.
So my dad was there.
I, I was gonna just say thatthank god, your dad was there
visit your loved one.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Folks, uh, don't let
your kids draw on the
whiteboards and always be therewhen wristbands are being put on
.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
oh my gosh, go john.
Thank god you were there.
Yes, that's so funny, thank you.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
LOL Savannah.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Okay, well, I guess
you're going to be up next week,
so you better heal up.
And by that time, what can weexpect to hear?
Speaker 2 (55:47):
I will be right as
rain, because next week we're
doing something a little morelighthearted, amanda.
Oh, okay, sounds good.
Yeah, I got, I got pulled downin the dregs of conspiracy and
animal cruelty andexperimentation and and all
kinds of stuff.
So you know what we're doingnext week.
Tell us Black market bodybrokers.
(56:09):
Oh my God, that's right, peopleGross.
Stay tuned for lightheartedness.
You'll learn how much a pieceof whatever costs and it'll be
enlightening.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I will be very much
looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
I'll try not to be on
cough medicine for this,
although it might help who knows, or do whatever.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Let us know what you
think about her on cough syrup.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
No okay, well, I can
do this part because you're on
cough medicine.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah, okay, I got, I
got you boo okay, so don't miss
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