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Welcome to the Dog is Love podcast! We're so happy you're here. In this episode, co-hosts, Chrissy Wohltmann and Cara Kelly discuss the language of dog and explain the meaning of, "to have a dog, you have to understand DOG." They also go into the three Foundational Principles of DOG, focusing on the first principle, 'How Dogs Live.'
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SPEAKER_00 (00:13):
Dog is love, like the roots of the trees and the
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
stars up above Dog
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is love, judgement free, unconditionally
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
Hey guys, welcome to Dog is Love.
I'm Chrissy Waltman, and I'm sograteful you guys decided to
join us.
This is our first episode of Dogis Love, and we are thrilled to
have you.
This podcast is our first forthe whole team, so please bear
with us as we navigate this newadventure.
I'm joined by my partner incrime, my sister from another
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mister, Cara Kelly.
Hi.
With me on this canine to thrivejourney since 2010.
as well as our producer, ToniKelly, who is here to help us
look and sound good.
Cara, Toni, and I have knowneach other forever since I was
14.
Isn't that nuts?
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That means I was seven.
Yes.
Or eight.
I was eight.
I wanted to start with anintroduction to kick off our
episode for those listening whomay not be familiar with us and
K9to5.
And after that, we'll getstarted.
I found that in life, it'sinfinitely better to navigate
the ups and downs with a dog byyour side.
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I believe a dog's love is God'slove on earth, nonjudgmental and
unconditional.
And it's no coincidence to methat dog is God spelled
backwards.
A dog offers joy, peace,gratitude, contentment, and
love.
So dog is love.
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Dogs have been some of mygreatest teachers, companions,
and sources of inspiration.
They remind me daily to be fullypresent in the current moment.
Through the pack, I've come tobelieve that nature has all the
answers.
If we can allow ourselves tojust slow down and pay
attention, dogs can teach us somuch about living.
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When it became clear that havinga dog whose schedule needed more
rearranging than my own andrelying on neighbors to ease the
anxiety was not the answer, Istarted my dog walking company,
Canine to Five, in 2007.
I saw the opportunity to createa small business that married my
love for animals, nature, andthe outdoors.
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But we've come a long way sincethen.
And my hope with this podcast isto share everything I've learned
from the pack with you.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
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what's really in a name, and howto navigate the endless options
of food choices.
You'll hear a lot from us,veterinarians, trainers, and
other canine specialists whowill weigh in on topics from
week to week.
We'll also find everyopportunity we can to show how
the dynamics within the packdirectly correlate to human
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relationships and how, if we'rehumble and willing, we can
evolve into better versions ofourselves, all thanks to our
dogs.
We're going deep, people, and wecouldn't be more excited.
Wait, Chris, before we start, Ithink there's an important story
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to tell about one of ourfriends, right?
Which was sort of, not that itwas necessarily the impetus for
the podcast, but...
was an inspiration for this isreally relevant information and
we need to get this out there.
Yeah.
Like, remember, we wanted to dothe podcast for so long.
We've talked about it.
And then this phone call waskind of like, this needs to
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happen.
Let's get going.
Let's go.
Okay.
So I have a friend that'sactually not local anymore.
She's out of state.
And it is a mom and a dad, threekids.
And then we placed an incredibledog into their family from
another customer of ours.
Right.
And then over the years, ofcourse, they wanted to add a
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second dog in.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And the second dog, I can'tremember if they bought it as a
puppy or if it came as like anolder puppy.
But it was a pup.
Yeah.
It was young.
Yep.
And so it's a male and the dogthat we put into the house was
female.
Okay.
All right.
So like things are going well,you know, he's a good little
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guy.
And then one day dad was comingdownstairs and that dog had a
bone.
Okay.
And I forget what happened,like, but for whatever reason,
dad interacted with the dog andthat dog became territorial of
the bone and started growling.
And then I nipped and then bitthe dog.
Bit the dad.
I mean, yes, the dad.
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And then the, I mean, the dadwas like, dad's furious,
furious, right?
And I think the dad interactedwith the dog in a way that, you
know, anybody would when a dogbites you.
And then of course it was justlike, that's it, this dog's out
of here, you know?
Right, right.
But I think at the end of theday, you know, it's just, Not a
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lot of people really understanddog.
Sure.
As this actual friend used totell me when I was a mom, stop,
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take a beat, count to three andstart all over again.
SPEAKER_02 (06:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
Yeah.
So when that phone call happenedand I get these phone calls
quite often.
Sure.
I was like, we need to dosomething to be able to reach
out to more people than just myfriends or acquaintances that
can give me a call.
Right.
Because you and I talk aboutthis all the time in any
relationship.
Right.
you have to sort of understandhow the other party, how they
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receive love, how they givelove, right?
What's our favorite book?
The Five Love Languages?
Yes.
And it's no different with adog.
And we've worked with thesedogs.
You've been doing this for twodecades.
I've been doing it
SPEAKER_02 (07:05):
since 2010.
So like a long time.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
But the thing that we've learned is that most
humans, what is our instinct todo is to put Our human
experience on the dog.
Yes.
But really what we want to do ishelp you, the listener,
understand the language of dog.
Yes.
And if you can understand thelanguage of dog, you might have
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a different reaction in aspecific situation just like
that.
Just like that story.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
So we're going to, that's sortof.
Right.
Where we're going to lead from.
Yeah.
So it's a statement I say allthe time to customers that are
asking me to help with liketraining or bringing on a new
pup into the family is that tohave a dog, you have to
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understand dog.
Say it again.
Yes.
So to have a dog, you have tounderstand dog.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So like you said, we're speakingtheir language, not them
speaking ours.
Yes.
Right.
And so start with yourfoundational principles.
Yes.
Good jumping off point.
For sure.
So the most helpful thing I'velearned over the decades that
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I've been doing this, workingwith dogs, is that I've come up
from observing the pack, is thatthere are three foundational
principles of dog.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes.
So how they live.
Yep.
One.
how they learn and how they act.
Beautiful.
Right.
And I think having a deeperunderstanding of these three
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things have helped me coach myclients to unlock, you know,
misbehaviors maybe with theirown pup or grow a fundamental
understanding of who, you know,their best buddy is and why they
behave the way they behave.
It's like if you fell in lovewith a person who spoke
Portuguese and you don't speakthat, you know, someone has to
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cross the bridge.
Dogs don't speak English.
Yeah.
So we're crossing the bridge.
Right.
So you have to sort of, you haveto get into their psyche a
little bit.
And I think when, When humanscan get into the psyche of the
dog, it makes for a moreenriching, more beautiful
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relationship.
Exactly.
And the relationship that I'veexperienced my whole entire life
with dogs,
SPEAKER_03 (09:30):
right?
UNKNOWN (09:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (09:32):
Yeah.
All right.
So today we're going to startwith just the first one.
Beautiful.
Which is how they live.
How they live.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So domesticated, we really can'tsee the dog in its own pack.
Sure.
Right.
Because we take them from there.
Don't say it.
Bring them into our own.
I know.
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I know.
We essentially kidnap dogs.
But let's get that.
Let's just go fast past that.
OK.
Right.
So sometimes we save them, too.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
There's that.
So because we don't often seethat, it's easier to look at
ancestors of theirs, which arewolves.
Right.
To kind of geek out.
It's actually gray wolves ormore DNA established.
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But it's fascinating.
It's so fascinating.
It really is.
So like wolves, dogs live in apack with a hierarchical
setting.
And, you know, there's thatpecking order.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yes.
And what's cool about...
wolves and if you could see dogsin a pack, which you and I are
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so privileged to do so all thetime.
Of course, yeah, yeah.
Is that there's a very complexsystem, family system, where
there's a pack leader ormultiple, right?
Right, like an alpha pair.
Yep.
And then descending naturallyinto the beta, betas, delta, and
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then omegas.
Yep.
Yeah.
Should we kind of touch base oneach of those?
Sure.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So the alpha is the leader orleaders that dictate decisions.
Betas are, I guess you could saylike advisors to the alpha.
Yes.
I would say they're alsoleadership.
They're also in a leadershiprole.
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They just aren't the top dog.
Top dogs.
Correct.
And I think we could also saythat they're like the muscle.
Sure.
The pack, right?
Okay.
Okay.
And then what's next?
The deltas, which are thecaretakers.
And then the omegas are thelowest on the totem pole.
But that's like kind of thepuppies.
Right.
Like the puppies or the elderlymembers.
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Yeah.
But even though there's thislike, again, I said it before,
even though there is thisstructure.
Yeah.
Every person, which is a goodlife lesson, has a true purpose.
Every creature.
Yeah.
Every creature.
Sorry, did I say person?
Every creature, every dog has avery specific job within that
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pack.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
So one of the cool things whenyou're watching wolves or if you
see a dog pack is the way thatthey move from territory to
territory, right?
So usually, which you wouldthink the pack leader would be
in the front, right?
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So usually the pack leaders inthe back to oversee the entire
troop or the trier pack as theymove.
And then in front is thosebetas.
And then behind them for theprotection is the, you know, the
omegas and the deltas.
Yeah.
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Okay.
And so, so I think that justkind of like shows you, Just the
dynamic of the positions of thedogs.
Also, too, an important thing tonote is that, I mean, obviously
these are wild.
This is not domesticated.
This is not domesticated.
But it does translate to ourenvironments at home.
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Yes.
I mean, having, and this is whatwe're saying, like if you
understand the language of thedog, having just this basic
understanding of wolf hierarchyexists can help you make sense
of what your job is at home inyour own pack.
Yes.
Right?
And what is that job, ChrissyWaltman?
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Yeah.
So the job is to be the packleader.
Indeed.
Okay.
Or pack leaders, like welearned, you know, because you
had to have pairs.
Right.
Tell us about sort of like thepersonality of the pack leaders.
Okay.
which is really important too,because everyone always says the
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alphas are dominant and thealphas are aggressive.
It can associate these sort ofnegative words with alpha, but
that's really not the case.
The alpha is the stable.
Yeah.
Stable.
Sure.
When I, when I'm like, I get sonervous talking about or using
the words like dominant andsubmissive with dog owners.
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Sure.
Because the pack leader is like,Someone that is calm.
Stable.
Stable.
Conscious.
Strong.
Present.
Thoughtful.
Yeah.
You know, in the way that theyare leading.
Yes.
It's something to bear in mindfor yourself.
Yeah.
As the pack leader.
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Yeah.
So like when I say disciplined,I'm meaning like a military
discipline.
Sure.
Not like bad boy, good girldiscipline.
kind of discipline, right?
I'm talking about likediscipline in the way that you
move in the world with the dog.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It really interesting tosomething that I learned being a
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dog walker.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
I thought it was really interesting because our
role, of course, as the walkeris to be the pack leader.
But then there's always thissort of sub hierarchy that seems
to happen when you're walking abig pack where you can see
certain dogs that have a more anatural alpha to their
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personality you watch theirbodies and they will use their
body to edge out the other dogsyeah for sure TJ he was that way
KOTU yeah Remember he used to bethat way?
Yeah, so true.
Like certain dogs.
And this is what we talk aboutall the time.
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If we can watch our dogs andwatch their natural behaviors,
which we have the privilege ofdoing as dog walkers, we can use
them as our teachers.
For sure.
Right?
Yes.
In so many ways.
Yes.
And I think as we...
get past these foundationalprinciples, then we'll kind of
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come, we'll circle back to that.
And like, I mean, you're goingto hear us time and time again,
because you can use their, likewhat they teach us to use in our
own lives.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
And then also within the PACleadership, you kind of like
brought it in to when we'rewalking with the PAC, you can
also use members of the PAC tohelp you out.
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Right.
And you have to build thatrelationship before you can do
with that.
Of course.
You know, of course.
Yeah.
So like for me doing this for solong and having certain dogs in
my pack, I can allow like a rumor.
Right.
You know, a Dexter go out infront and kind of help me manage
the pack.
Yes.
Lindsay has Hefei.
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Right, right, right.
You have Junebug.
So, you know, we can you can dothat later on.
But for right now, we reallywant you and your family members
to be the pack leader and yourdogs to be those omegas on the
kind of on the bottom of thetotem pole.
Absolutely.
All right.
So what does all this mean?
Yeah.
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Right.
For just the general dog owner.
It means that we have to striveto be the alpha, that pack
leader and, you know, raise ourpuppies to be those omegas, like
I just said.
And it's important to know thatas a pack leader, if you don't
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hold that position, your dogwill at any minute.
Say that again, because that iscritical.
So if you are not holding theplace of the alpha of the pack
leader.
Right.
If you don't assume that role,your dog will.
Yes.
It's a survival skill.
Right.
So like, you know, if we go backto the wolves, right?
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If an...
if the alpha leader gets injuredor, um, you know, or it gets
sick or is an elder and dies offthe, this, the, the number two
guy is going to step in that andthey all go back, fall in line.
Yes.
Yep.
So it's really understand, uh,important to understand that.
And you've, you might as the,you know, just paying attention
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in the environment that you guyslive in, you guys, the listeners
live in and stuff.
You may see it where, um, Youknow, a dog might be in your
eyes acting bad.
For instance, like if you havelike a very nervous owner and
then you're out in the wild andthe dog barks at the end of the
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leash.
Yes.
You know, that's not a bad dog.
That's just a dog acting dog.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It happens all the time wheredogs will be they they sense
because dogs are just creaturesof energy.
If they sense a nervousness inyou or they sense an
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unstableness in you in thatmoment, they will immediately
assume the role.
A pack leader.
Immediately.
Yes.
With dominant behaviors thatyou'll see.
Barking, acting territorially.
Yeah.
Things that we're all going to,obviously, we're going to get
into as we progress with thepodcast.
And that's a good example, too,because when I ask people to be
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in an alpha role, right?
Yeah.
Sometimes they get nervous.
Well, like, what if I'm nothere?
Is my dog going to do what we'reasking him to do?
Protect the home?
Yes.
Or protect my children if I'minside and the dog's outside
with the kids?
Absolutely.
Yes.
Because it goes back to thathierarchy system and everybody
has their job within the pack.
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Yes.
And they're all helping eachother.
Yes.
Come on, humanity.
Like, we're more like than we'redifferent.
We should be helping each other.
And that's what they do.
Right.
Right.
UNKNOWN (19:43):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
So yes, your dog, well, I guess unless you're like
a, remember Winnie?
Like, I mean, I swear to God, arobber could have thrown her.
A stake.
A stake and she'd be like, comeon in, take
SPEAKER_00 (19:55):
all the
SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
jewelry.
Whoever.
Oh my God.
But no, for the most part, yes.
If you have this trustingdynamic with your dog, it's
going to, they're going to stepup when they need to step up.
Also too, you used a reallyimportant word, trust.
Yeah.
is really important with ourdogs.
Yes.
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As it is with, of course, anyrelationship that you have.
But what you're doing when youassume that role of the pack
leader is you're relinquishingyour dog from that job.
And in order to do so, you needto have a really strong bond of
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trust between the two of you yesabsolutely if your dog does not
trust you you will knowimmediately
SPEAKER_03 (20:42):
yes
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
you're not going to make any headway and so you know
it's important to just bear thatin mind and and we'll give you
tools to create that trust yeswe will no we'll give you we'll
give you actionable tools forthat but um but it's something
to just understand yeah tooright Okay.
So you have this pup in yourfamily.
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Yeah.
You're living in a pack.
Let's go back to the story,right?
Because it was a new pup in thefamily.
So the pup may not haveestablished a sense of trust
just quite yet with the dad inthat scenario with the bone.
Yeah.
So he was nervous, you know, andso that dog was just acting
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weird.
dog yeah right he was beingterritorial and because they're
just they hadn't quite foundtheir footing with one another
just yet there was a reactionright yeah and so it goes back
to environment with how theylive and you need that
foundation of trust and thenwhat else do you need in the
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environment so your purpose as apack leader right is to have a
calm and stable environment andAnd the reason for that is
primitive, is that if it's not acalm, stable environment, if
they were out in the wild, thenthey would be very vulnerable to
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a predator.
So, you know, if you have afamily...
With chaos.
With chaos going on.
Which is normal.
Yeah, so normal.
There's going to be things thatwe're going to help you with so
that you can, you know, makesure that the dog stays in that,
you know, calm mindset.
So talk about for just a minute.
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So we talked about theimportance of like a calm
environment.
But also, I know that you alwaystalk about this with our
clients, the importance ofroutine management.
And how that kind of kicks backinto the way dogs live.
Yeah.
And maybe that's something thatwe can.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So we're going to be a packleader.
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Yep.
We're going to teach you thatlater on how to be a pack
leader.
Yeah.
We're going to create a calmenvironment for them.
And we as the pack leader aregoing to be calm.
Okay.
So it's always, yeah.
So for the environment, it'salways nice to have a spot for
your pup to be.
Sure.
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So that could be like a crate ina quiet place.
Mud rooms are awesome withgates, you know, just to have a
nice spot.
Sometimes people put them inporches.
Also too, because wolves are,most wolves, foxes, canadaise,
are den.
Yeah.
So that's why the crate works sowell is because the crate
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simulates a den like setting forthem that they're, you know,
that is instinctive to them as aspecies.
Yes.
So you want them to have thatspace, set up that calm space,
but you want it not far awaybecause they're a pack species.
So they want to be near you.
Sure.
Right.
So I think, I think that isreally important for the
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environment.
And then just within thatenvironment, having that calm
household.
And so, like we said, with thefamilies, it's pretty hard.
So what we can do is create aroutine for the dog so that they
can be in that kind of, youknow, wonderful, blissful chaos.
Right.
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So, yeah.
we really promote having a, youknow, the dog wakes up, we go
for a dog walk, we feed them andget their belly super full.
And so that we've exerted theirenergy first thing in the
morning and that they're contentby the full belly, right?
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Right.
Then we can put them in thatenvironment that we built for
them, the crate, the mud room.
They're close to us as a packand But they can be in that stay
in that calm mindset while we'rekind of getting the morning
routine going and gettingeverybody out the door.
Sure.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
And then you may be saying, wow,like that's a lot to have, you
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know, getting your everybody upin the morning, getting the dog,
the energy exercise and stufflike that.
But really, honestly, if you'reputting a dog into the house,
you have to know that that'syour first and foremost
responsibility.
Yeah.
Because a well-exercised dog isa well-behaved dog.
So really, it's justestablishing.
So what about the listeners whoare saying, hey, Chrissy, ain't
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no way we're going to be able todo that.
I forgot.
two small children under the ageof five and i've got a puppy
yeah and um it's just me in thehouse yeah because i'm asking
you to do really we do an hourwalk in the morning right so
what would you do so we canintensify the walk by a couple
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things we can teach a you knowyou can go for a bike ride with
your dog where he runs next toyou you can send the kids out to
do that And of course, that'ssomething that we have to build
up to and we have to teach thedog how to go for that bike
ride.
But so that exerts the energy alot quicker.
And that's also a really greatstrategy that I love.
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Like if you're going to thebeach and there's, you know, you
might have like a beach house ora condo and it's not as much
environment for the dog to runaround and play.
So the bike riding is really,really awesome.
And then the biggest thing is toput a backpack on your dog.
I was going to say the backpacksare good too.
Yeah.
And you can wait the backpack.
So you buy a backpack with, um,with, uh, with pockets on each
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side.
Right.
And then we can wait it withlike sand in a, um, there's like
little sandwich lunch box.
bags.
Or like little tiny dumbbells.
Yep.
Like little one pounders on eachone.
For sure.
In the summertime, you can dofrozen water bottles and put
that in the backpack.
And then that's going to give abigger exertion of energy in a
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smaller time.
Right.
So if you don't have an hour.
Yeah.
So let's say you've got 20minutes.
Yeah.
So put that weighted backpack onthem, go out for that walk, and
that will convert to the same asthe hour walk.
Good.
That's great.
That's great advice.
Okay.
So let's see in the afternoonthen, you know, I really like
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the idea of going for anotherhalf hour stroll.
I think you really like to do itin the evening.
We do it in the evening.
It doesn't matter, but reallyhonestly, and this is for no
matter if you have a large dog,a small dog, I really like the
hour and a half of exercise aday.
Right.
Split up into the hour in themorning and the half hour in the
afternoon.
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And if you can't do that, swapit.
Do an hour in the night and thehalf hour in the morning.
Yeah.
I mean, there are definitelytimes where the morning can be
chaotic in our house for sure.
And we're fortunate.
I have the ability to just turnjuniper.
We have a two-year-old chocolatelab.
And we can turn her loose.
So every single morning, she andI have a routine.
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Every single morning, I put onher e-collar.
And we go out.
And she runs in the field.
And she goes out.
And she usually chases the deeroff.
And she has this little...
It's her job.
And she goes out there.
And then she...
She does her business and it'sjust our little time together.
And then usually the exercisewill come later for us.
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But she gets to run.
She gets to exert a little bitof energy.
Yeah.
Now I think you can do that,right?
Because number one, you'veestablished leadership.
She's also two and a half.
Right.
Yeah.
So she's older.
Yeah.
And also like, you know, shegoes dog walking.
Right.
with us on a daily basis.
And when I wasn't eight monthspregnant, she would walk with me
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every single day.
Every single day and do that.
So yeah, so like what's with allthis exercise that we're trying
to promote, right?
And I think it just goes backto, I said it earlier, it's like
a well-exercised dog is awell-behaved dog.
And so if you're havingbehavioral problems, that's
usually associated with the lackof exercise.
Yes.
And then we also, because wehave these electric fences,
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because we put fences up, wethink that like putting the dog
outside is good enough, but dogsget bored.
Yes.
They will destroy your yard.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And leash walking is, I think,the most important that we love
to promote because we might bebiased.
(29:24):
Yeah.
But it really, really is becausewhen you're leash walking,
you're doing it in a disciplinedmanner and You're in an alpha
role where the dog is followingyou.
So it ends up being just likethe most important interaction
that you can have with your dog.
And it's also too, it's not justphysically stimulating.
It's mentally stimulating forthem as well.
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Because when you go out for thatleash walk, I mean, they're
getting to...
absorb smells they're getting tobond with you as their leader i
mean it's a it's a bondingexperience for sure right yeah
for sure so yeah okay so let'stie it all in a nice little bow
okay so to understand dog youhave to understand these three
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foundational principles the waythat they live the way that they
learn and the way that they acttoday we discuss the way that
they live, which is in a packsetting, hierarchical, everybody
has their pecking order.
And then- The key takeaway.
The key takeaway is to be thepack leader.
And as a pack leader, to have acalm mindset, And a calm
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environment.
Beautiful.
And to get that type of calmenvironment, you need to have a
routine to create that.
Right.
And a lot of exercise.
And a lot of exercise.
Yes.
Yeah.
I love it.
Okay.
So next week, before we hit thetwo other foundational
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principles, we want to firstcoach how to be a pack leader.
Okay.
And there's going to be threeways.
And those are things that you'realready going to be doing with
your dog.
I'm just going to ask you to bemore intentional with that.
And those three are how you goin and out of doorways, up and
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down steps or out of theircrate, which is human first, dog
second, how we're going to feedthem, and then how we're going
to walk them.
Beautiful.
Okay.
And so until then, Dog is love.
Dog is love.
And we'll see you on the nextepisode.
And share an episode We would beso grateful.
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Hey guys, welcome to Dog is Love.
I'm Chrissy Waltman, and I'm sograteful you guys decided to
join us.
This is our first episode of Dogis Love, and we are thrilled to
have you.
This podcast is our first forthe whole team, so please bear
with us as we navigate this newadventure.
I'm joined by my partner incrime, my sister from another
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mister, Cara Kelly.
Hi.
With me on this canine to thrivejourney since 2010.
as well as our producer, ToniKelly, who is here to help us
look and sound good.
Cara, Toni, and I have knowneach other forever since I was
14.
Isn't that nuts?
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That means I was seven.
Yes.
Or eight.
I was eight.
I wanted to start with anintroduction to kick off our
episode for those listening whomay not be familiar with us and
K9to5.
And after that, we'll getstarted.
I found that in life, it'sinfinitely better to navigate
the ups and downs with a dog byyour side.
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I believe a dog's love is God'slove on earth, nonjudgmental and
unconditional.
And it's no coincidence to methat dog is God spelled
backwards.
A dog offers joy, peace,gratitude, contentment, and
love.
So dog is love.
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Dogs have been some of mygreatest teachers, companions,
and sources of inspiration.
They remind me daily to be fullypresent in the current moment.
Through the pack, I've come tobelieve that nature has all the
answers.
If we can allow ourselves tojust slow down and pay
attention, dogs can teach us somuch about living.
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When it became clear that havinga dog whose schedule needed more
rearranging than my own andrelying on neighbors to ease the
anxiety was not the answer, Istarted my dog walking company,
Canine to Five, in 2007.
I saw the opportunity to createa small business that married my
love for animals, nature, andthe outdoors.
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But we've come a long way sincethen.
And my hope with this podcast isto share everything I've learned
from the pack with you.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
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what's really in a name, and howto navigate the endless options
of food choices.
You'll hear a lot from us,veterinarians, trainers, and
other canine specialists whowill weigh in on topics from
week to week.
We'll also find everyopportunity we can to show how
the dynamics within the packdirectly correlate to human
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relationships and how, if we'rehumble and willing, we can
evolve into better versions ofourselves, all thanks to our
dogs.
We're going deep, people, and wecouldn't be more excited.
Wait, Chris, before we start, Ithink there's an important story
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to tell about one of ourfriends, right?
Which was sort of, not that itwas necessarily the impetus for
the podcast, but...
was an inspiration for this isreally relevant information and
we need to get this out there.
Yeah.
Like, remember, we wanted to dothe podcast for so long.
We've talked about it.
And then this phone call waskind of like, this needs to
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happen.
Let's get going.
Let's go.
Okay.
So I have a friend that'sactually not local anymore.
She's out of state.
And it is a mom and a dad, threekids.
And then we placed an incredibledog into their family from
another customer of ours.
Right.
And then over the years, ofcourse, they wanted to add a
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second dog in.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And the second dog, I can'tremember if they bought it as a
puppy or if it came as like anolder puppy.
But it was a pup.
Yeah.
It was young.
Yep.
And so it's a male and the dogthat we put into the house was
female.
Okay.
All right.
So like things are going well,you know, he's a good little
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guy.
And then one day dad was comingdownstairs and that dog had a
bone.
Okay.
And I forget what happened,like, but for whatever reason,
dad interacted with the dog andthat dog became territorial of
the bone and started growling.
And then I nipped and then bitthe dog.
Bit the dad.
I mean, yes, the dad.
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And then the, I mean, the dadwas like, dad's furious,
furious, right?
And I think the dad interactedwith the dog in a way that, you
know, anybody would when a dogbites you.
And then of course it was justlike, that's it, this dog's out
of here, you know?
Right, right.
But I think at the end of theday, you know, it's just, Not a
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lot of people really understanddog.
Sure.
As this actual friend used totell me when I was a mom, stop,
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take a beat, count to three andstart all over again.
SPEAKER_02 (06:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
Yeah.
So when that phone call happenedand I get these phone calls
quite often.
Sure.
I was like, we need to dosomething to be able to reach
out to more people than just myfriends or acquaintances that
can give me a call.
Right.
Because you and I talk aboutthis all the time in any
relationship.
Right.
you have to sort of understandhow the other party, how they
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receive love, how they givelove, right?
What's our favorite book?
The Five Love Languages?
Yes.
And it's no different with adog.
And we've worked with thesedogs.
You've been doing this for twodecades.
I've been doing it
SPEAKER_02 (07:05):
since 2010.
So like a long time.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
But the thing that we've learned is that most
humans, what is our instinct todo is to put Our human
experience on the dog.
Yes.
But really what we want to do ishelp you, the listener,
understand the language of dog.
Yes.
And if you can understand thelanguage of dog, you might have
(07:31):
a different reaction in aspecific situation just like
that.
Just like that story.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
So we're going to, that's sortof.
Right.
Where we're going to lead from.
Yeah.
So it's a statement I say allthe time to customers that are
asking me to help with liketraining or bringing on a new
pup into the family is that tohave a dog, you have to
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understand dog.
Say it again.
Yes.
So to have a dog, you have tounderstand dog.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So like you said, we're speakingtheir language, not them
speaking ours.
Yes.
Right.
And so start with yourfoundational principles.
Yes.
Good jumping off point.
For sure.
So the most helpful thing I'velearned over the decades that
(08:16):
I've been doing this, workingwith dogs, is that I've come up
from observing the pack, is thatthere are three foundational
principles of dog.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes.
So how they live.
Yep.
One.
how they learn and how they act.
Beautiful.
Right.
And I think having a deeperunderstanding of these three
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things have helped me coach myclients to unlock, you know,
misbehaviors maybe with theirown pup or grow a fundamental
understanding of who, you know,their best buddy is and why they
behave the way they behave.
It's like if you fell in lovewith a person who spoke
Portuguese and you don't speakthat, you know, someone has to
(09:03):
cross the bridge.
Dogs don't speak English.
Yeah.
So we're crossing the bridge.
Right.
So you have to sort of, you haveto get into their psyche a
little bit.
And I think when, When humanscan get into the psyche of the
dog, it makes for a moreenriching, more beautiful
(09:24):
relationship.
Exactly.
And the relationship that I'veexperienced my whole entire life
with dogs,
SPEAKER_03 (09:30):
right?
UNKNOWN (09:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (09:32):
Yeah.
All right.
So today we're going to startwith just the first one.
Beautiful.
Which is how they live.
How they live.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So domesticated, we really can'tsee the dog in its own pack.
Sure.
Right.
Because we take them from there.
Don't say it.
Bring them into our own.
I know.
(09:52):
I know.
We essentially kidnap dogs.
But let's get that.
Let's just go fast past that.
OK.
Right.
So sometimes we save them, too.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
There's that.
So because we don't often seethat, it's easier to look at
ancestors of theirs, which arewolves.
Right.
To kind of geek out.
It's actually gray wolves ormore DNA established.
(10:14):
But it's fascinating.
It's so fascinating.
It really is.
So like wolves, dogs live in apack with a hierarchical
setting.
And, you know, there's thatpecking order.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yes.
And what's cool about...
wolves and if you could see dogsin a pack, which you and I are
(10:36):
so privileged to do so all thetime.
Of course, yeah, yeah.
Is that there's a very complexsystem, family system, where
there's a pack leader ormultiple, right?
Right, like an alpha pair.
Yep.
And then descending naturallyinto the beta, betas, delta, and
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then omegas.
Yep.
Yeah.
Should we kind of touch base oneach of those?
Sure.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So the alpha is the leader orleaders that dictate decisions.
Betas are, I guess you could saylike advisors to the alpha.
Yes.
I would say they're alsoleadership.
They're also in a leadershiprole.
(11:18):
They just aren't the top dog.
Top dogs.
Correct.
And I think we could also saythat they're like the muscle.
Sure.
The pack, right?
Okay.
Okay.
And then what's next?
The deltas, which are thecaretakers.
And then the omegas are thelowest on the totem pole.
But that's like kind of thepuppies.
Right.
Like the puppies or the elderlymembers.
(11:41):
Yeah.
But even though there's thislike, again, I said it before,
even though there is thisstructure.
Yeah.
Every person, which is a goodlife lesson, has a true purpose.
Every creature.
Yeah.
Every creature.
Sorry, did I say person?
Every creature, every dog has avery specific job within that
(12:03):
pack.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
So one of the cool things whenyou're watching wolves or if you
see a dog pack is the way thatthey move from territory to
territory, right?
So usually, which you wouldthink the pack leader would be
in the front, right?
(12:23):
So usually the pack leaders inthe back to oversee the entire
troop or the trier pack as theymove.
And then in front is thosebetas.
And then behind them for theprotection is the, you know, the
omegas and the deltas.
Yeah.
(12:44):
Okay.
And so, so I think that justkind of like shows you, Just the
dynamic of the positions of thedogs.
Also, too, an important thing tonote is that, I mean, obviously
these are wild.
This is not domesticated.
This is not domesticated.
But it does translate to ourenvironments at home.
(13:07):
Yes.
I mean, having, and this is whatwe're saying, like if you
understand the language of thedog, having just this basic
understanding of wolf hierarchyexists can help you make sense
of what your job is at home inyour own pack.
Yes.
Right?
And what is that job, ChrissyWaltman?
(13:29):
Yeah.
So the job is to be the packleader.
Indeed.
Okay.
Or pack leaders, like welearned, you know, because you
had to have pairs.
Right.
Tell us about sort of like thepersonality of the pack leaders.
Okay.
which is really important too,because everyone always says the
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alphas are dominant and thealphas are aggressive.
It can associate these sort ofnegative words with alpha, but
that's really not the case.
The alpha is the stable.
Yeah.
Stable.
Sure.
When I, when I'm like, I get sonervous talking about or using
the words like dominant andsubmissive with dog owners.
(14:10):
Sure.
Because the pack leader is like,Someone that is calm.
Stable.
Stable.
Conscious.
Strong.
Present.
Thoughtful.
Yeah.
You know, in the way that theyare leading.
Yes.
It's something to bear in mindfor yourself.
Yeah.
As the pack leader.
(14:30):
Yeah.
So like when I say disciplined,I'm meaning like a military
discipline.
Sure.
Not like bad boy, good girldiscipline.
kind of discipline, right?
I'm talking about likediscipline in the way that you
move in the world with the dog.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It really interesting tosomething that I learned being a
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dog walker.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
I thought it was really interesting because our
role, of course, as the walkeris to be the pack leader.
But then there's always thissort of sub hierarchy that seems
to happen when you're walking abig pack where you can see
certain dogs that have a more anatural alpha to their
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personality you watch theirbodies and they will use their
body to edge out the other dogsyeah for sure TJ he was that way
KOTU yeah Remember he used to bethat way?
Yeah, so true.
Like certain dogs.
And this is what we talk aboutall the time.
(15:38):
If we can watch our dogs andwatch their natural behaviors,
which we have the privilege ofdoing as dog walkers, we can use
them as our teachers.
For sure.
Right?
Yes.
In so many ways.
Yes.
And I think as we...
get past these foundationalprinciples, then we'll kind of
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come, we'll circle back to that.
And like, I mean, you're goingto hear us time and time again,
because you can use their, likewhat they teach us to use in our
own lives.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
And then also within the PACleadership, you kind of like
brought it in to when we'rewalking with the PAC, you can
also use members of the PAC tohelp you out.
(16:21):
Right.
And you have to build thatrelationship before you can do
with that.
Of course.
You know, of course.
Yeah.
So like for me doing this for solong and having certain dogs in
my pack, I can allow like a rumor.
Right.
You know, a Dexter go out infront and kind of help me manage
the pack.
Yes.
Lindsay has Hefei.
(16:42):
Right, right, right.
You have Junebug.
So, you know, we can you can dothat later on.
But for right now, we reallywant you and your family members
to be the pack leader and yourdogs to be those omegas on the
kind of on the bottom of thetotem pole.
Absolutely.
All right.
So what does all this mean?
Yeah.
(17:03):
Right.
For just the general dog owner.
It means that we have to striveto be the alpha, that pack
leader and, you know, raise ourpuppies to be those omegas, like
I just said.
And it's important to know thatas a pack leader, if you don't
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hold that position, your dogwill at any minute.
Say that again, because that iscritical.
So if you are not holding theplace of the alpha of the pack
leader.
Right.
If you don't assume that role,your dog will.
Yes.
It's a survival skill.
Right.
So like, you know, if we go backto the wolves, right?
(17:46):
If an...
if the alpha leader gets injuredor, um, you know, or it gets
sick or is an elder and dies offthe, this, the, the number two
guy is going to step in that andthey all go back, fall in line.
Yes.
Yep.
So it's really understand, uh,important to understand that.
And you've, you might as the,you know, just paying attention
(18:09):
in the environment that you guyslive in, you guys, the listeners
live in and stuff.
You may see it where, um, Youknow, a dog might be in your
eyes acting bad.
For instance, like if you havelike a very nervous owner and
then you're out in the wild andthe dog barks at the end of the
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leash.
Yes.
You know, that's not a bad dog.
That's just a dog acting dog.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It happens all the time wheredogs will be they they sense
because dogs are just creaturesof energy.
If they sense a nervousness inyou or they sense an
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unstableness in you in thatmoment, they will immediately
assume the role.
A pack leader.
Immediately.
Yes.
With dominant behaviors thatyou'll see.
Barking, acting territorially.
Yeah.
Things that we're all going to,obviously, we're going to get
into as we progress with thepodcast.
And that's a good example, too,because when I ask people to be
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in an alpha role, right?
Yeah.
Sometimes they get nervous.
Well, like, what if I'm nothere?
Is my dog going to do what we'reasking him to do?
Protect the home?
Yes.
Or protect my children if I'minside and the dog's outside
with the kids?
Absolutely.
Yes.
Because it goes back to thathierarchy system and everybody
has their job within the pack.
(19:33):
Yes.
And they're all helping eachother.
Yes.
Come on, humanity.
Like, we're more like than we'redifferent.
We should be helping each other.
And that's what they do.
Right.
Right.
UNKNOWN (19:43):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
So yes, your dog, well, I guess unless you're like
a, remember Winnie?
Like, I mean, I swear to God, arobber could have thrown her.
A stake.
A stake and she'd be like, comeon in, take
SPEAKER_00 (19:55):
all the
SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
jewelry.
Whoever.
Oh my God.
But no, for the most part, yes.
If you have this trustingdynamic with your dog, it's
going to, they're going to stepup when they need to step up.
Also too, you used a reallyimportant word, trust.
Yeah.
is really important with ourdogs.
Yes.
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As it is with, of course, anyrelationship that you have.
But what you're doing when youassume that role of the pack
leader is you're relinquishingyour dog from that job.
And in order to do so, you needto have a really strong bond of
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trust between the two of you yesabsolutely if your dog does not
trust you you will knowimmediately
SPEAKER_03 (20:42):
yes
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
you're not going to make any headway and so you know
it's important to just bear thatin mind and and we'll give you
tools to create that trust yeswe will no we'll give you we'll
give you actionable tools forthat but um but it's something
to just understand yeah tooright Okay.
So you have this pup in yourfamily.
(21:05):
Yeah.
You're living in a pack.
Let's go back to the story,right?
Because it was a new pup in thefamily.
So the pup may not haveestablished a sense of trust
just quite yet with the dad inthat scenario with the bone.
Yeah.
So he was nervous, you know, andso that dog was just acting
(21:27):
weird.
dog yeah right he was beingterritorial and because they're
just they hadn't quite foundtheir footing with one another
just yet there was a reactionright yeah and so it goes back
to environment with how theylive and you need that
foundation of trust and thenwhat else do you need in the
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environment so your purpose as apack leader right is to have a
calm and stable environment andAnd the reason for that is
primitive, is that if it's not acalm, stable environment, if
they were out in the wild, thenthey would be very vulnerable to
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a predator.
So, you know, if you have afamily...
With chaos.
With chaos going on.
Which is normal.
Yeah, so normal.
There's going to be things thatwe're going to help you with so
that you can, you know, makesure that the dog stays in that,
you know, calm mindset.
So talk about for just a minute.
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So we talked about theimportance of like a calm
environment.
But also, I know that you alwaystalk about this with our
clients, the importance ofroutine management.
And how that kind of kicks backinto the way dogs live.
Yeah.
And maybe that's something thatwe can.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So we're going to be a packleader.
(22:53):
Yep.
We're going to teach you thatlater on how to be a pack
leader.
Yeah.
We're going to create a calmenvironment for them.
And we as the pack leader aregoing to be calm.
Okay.
So it's always, yeah.
So for the environment, it'salways nice to have a spot for
your pup to be.
Sure.
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So that could be like a crate ina quiet place.
Mud rooms are awesome withgates, you know, just to have a
nice spot.
Sometimes people put them inporches.
Also too, because wolves are,most wolves, foxes, canadaise,
are den.
Yeah.
So that's why the crate works sowell is because the crate
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simulates a den like setting forthem that they're, you know,
that is instinctive to them as aspecies.
Yes.
So you want them to have thatspace, set up that calm space,
but you want it not far awaybecause they're a pack species.
So they want to be near you.
Sure.
Right.
So I think, I think that isreally important for the
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environment.
And then just within thatenvironment, having that calm
household.
And so, like we said, with thefamilies, it's pretty hard.
So what we can do is create aroutine for the dog so that they
can be in that kind of, youknow, wonderful, blissful chaos.
Right.
(24:19):
So, yeah.
we really promote having a, youknow, the dog wakes up, we go
for a dog walk, we feed them andget their belly super full.
And so that we've exerted theirenergy first thing in the
morning and that they're contentby the full belly, right?
(24:39):
Right.
Then we can put them in thatenvironment that we built for
them, the crate, the mud room.
They're close to us as a packand But they can be in that stay
in that calm mindset while we'rekind of getting the morning
routine going and gettingeverybody out the door.
Sure.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
And then you may be saying, wow,like that's a lot to have, you
(25:04):
know, getting your everybody upin the morning, getting the dog,
the energy exercise and stufflike that.
But really, honestly, if you'reputting a dog into the house,
you have to know that that'syour first and foremost
responsibility.
Yeah.
Because a well-exercised dog isa well-behaved dog.
So really, it's justestablishing.
So what about the listeners whoare saying, hey, Chrissy, ain't
(25:25):
no way we're going to be able todo that.
I forgot.
two small children under the ageof five and i've got a puppy
yeah and um it's just me in thehouse yeah because i'm asking
you to do really we do an hourwalk in the morning right so
what would you do so we canintensify the walk by a couple
(25:45):
things we can teach a you knowyou can go for a bike ride with
your dog where he runs next toyou you can send the kids out to
do that And of course, that'ssomething that we have to build
up to and we have to teach thedog how to go for that bike
ride.
But so that exerts the energy alot quicker.
And that's also a really greatstrategy that I love.
(26:07):
Like if you're going to thebeach and there's, you know, you
might have like a beach house ora condo and it's not as much
environment for the dog to runaround and play.
So the bike riding is really,really awesome.
And then the biggest thing is toput a backpack on your dog.
I was going to say the backpacksare good too.
Yeah.
And you can wait the backpack.
So you buy a backpack with, um,with, uh, with pockets on each
(26:28):
side.
Right.
And then we can wait it withlike sand in a, um, there's like
little sandwich lunch box.
bags.
Or like little tiny dumbbells.
Yep.
Like little one pounders on eachone.
For sure.
In the summertime, you can dofrozen water bottles and put
that in the backpack.
And then that's going to give abigger exertion of energy in a
(26:50):
smaller time.
Right.
So if you don't have an hour.
Yeah.
So let's say you've got 20minutes.
Yeah.
So put that weighted backpack onthem, go out for that walk, and
that will convert to the same asthe hour walk.
Good.
That's great.
That's great advice.
Okay.
So let's see in the afternoonthen, you know, I really like
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the idea of going for anotherhalf hour stroll.
I think you really like to do itin the evening.
We do it in the evening.
It doesn't matter, but reallyhonestly, and this is for no
matter if you have a large dog,a small dog, I really like the
hour and a half of exercise aday.
Right.
Split up into the hour in themorning and the half hour in the
afternoon.
(27:34):
And if you can't do that, swapit.
Do an hour in the night and thehalf hour in the morning.
Yeah.
I mean, there are definitelytimes where the morning can be
chaotic in our house for sure.
And we're fortunate.
I have the ability to just turnjuniper.
We have a two-year-old chocolatelab.
And we can turn her loose.
So every single morning, she andI have a routine.
(27:57):
Every single morning, I put onher e-collar.
And we go out.
And she runs in the field.
And she goes out.
And she usually chases the deeroff.
And she has this little...
It's her job.
And she goes out there.
And then she...
She does her business and it'sjust our little time together.
And then usually the exercisewill come later for us.
(28:19):
But she gets to run.
She gets to exert a little bitof energy.
Yeah.
Now I think you can do that,right?
Because number one, you'veestablished leadership.
She's also two and a half.
Right.
Yeah.
So she's older.
Yeah.
And also like, you know, shegoes dog walking.
Right.
with us on a daily basis.
And when I wasn't eight monthspregnant, she would walk with me
(28:41):
every single day.
Every single day and do that.
So yeah, so like what's with allthis exercise that we're trying
to promote, right?
And I think it just goes backto, I said it earlier, it's like
a well-exercised dog is awell-behaved dog.
And so if you're havingbehavioral problems, that's
usually associated with the lackof exercise.
Yes.
And then we also, because wehave these electric fences,
(29:02):
because we put fences up, wethink that like putting the dog
outside is good enough, but dogsget bored.
Yes.
They will destroy your yard.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And leash walking is, I think,the most important that we love
to promote because we might bebiased.
(29:24):
Yeah.
But it really, really is becausewhen you're leash walking,
you're doing it in a disciplinedmanner and You're in an alpha
role where the dog is followingyou.
So it ends up being just likethe most important interaction
that you can have with your dog.
And it's also too, it's not justphysically stimulating.
It's mentally stimulating forthem as well.
(29:48):
Because when you go out for thatleash walk, I mean, they're
getting to...
absorb smells they're getting tobond with you as their leader i
mean it's a it's a bondingexperience for sure right yeah
for sure so yeah okay so let'stie it all in a nice little bow
okay so to understand dog youhave to understand these three
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foundational principles the waythat they live the way that they
learn and the way that they acttoday we discuss the way that
they live, which is in a packsetting, hierarchical, everybody
has their pecking order.
And then- The key takeaway.
The key takeaway is to be thepack leader.
And as a pack leader, to have acalm mindset, And a calm
(30:38):
environment.
Beautiful.
And to get that type of calmenvironment, you need to have a
routine to create that.
Right.
And a lot of exercise.
And a lot of exercise.
Yes.
Yeah.
I love it.
Okay.
So next week, before we hit thetwo other foundational
(30:58):
principles, we want to firstcoach how to be a pack leader.
Okay.
And there's going to be threeways.
And those are things that you'realready going to be doing with
your dog.
I'm just going to ask you to bemore intentional with that.
And those three are how you goin and out of doorways, up and
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down steps or out of theircrate, which is human first, dog
second, how we're going to feedthem, and then how we're going
to walk them.
Beautiful.
Okay.
And so until then, Dog is love.
Dog is love.
And we'll see you on the nextepisode.
And share an episode We would beso grateful.
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