June 5, 2023 • 50 mins
Could you imagine discovering your spouse was not only stealing from you, but also plotting your demise? That's the chilling reality we explore in this gripping episode of The Deviant Mind, as we unravel the tangled web surrounding Utah-based entrepreneur and realtor Kouri Richins, who stands accused of poisoning her husband, Eric. We take a deep look into their lives and marriage, leaving no stone unturned in this haunting tale of betrayal and murder.
Join us on this intense journey into the heart of darkness, examining the events leading up to Eric's tragic death, and the possible motives and psychological factors that may have driven Kouri to such desperate measures. From the influence of faith and family, to the eerie possibility of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, this is one episode you won't want to miss. Tune in and let us know your thoughts on this harrowing case.
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey everybody, welcome back to The Deviant Mind
.
This is your host, Dominica.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And this is Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And we are having part two of our Murder.
She Wrote series with anotherwoman who is allegedly she's on
trial, so we she has not beenyet found guilty, but this is
the case of Corey Richens,richens and Eric Richens.
(00:59):
She is a self-published griefbook author.
She's also a house flipper andrealtor developer from Utah who
is accused of poisoning herhusband, eric, with fentanyl And
(01:22):
she's currently on trial.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Or, as she calls it, the Michael Jackson stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The Michael Jackson stuff.
That's right.
Yeah, so you know it'sinteresting when you do new
ongoing cases like this it'skind of sometimes hard to find
information about the defendantas the police document warrant
(01:50):
for her arrest.
Call it Because you know it'sinteresting, because she's a
private citizen And so it wasdefinitely kind of hard to dig
stuff up from her.
But did you?
you are usually the documentarywatcher.
Have you heard any people talkabout?
(02:11):
well, i know this case is againall about money, but any
discussion about any pathologiesshe might have, like narcissism
, sociopath, i mean it'sinteresting because she was born
in 1990, Corey was.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Which is crazy.
Which is crazy, right, 1990.
Welcome to feeling old.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, oh God okay.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I say that for myself .
You're a young person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh, for me I was in high school, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, I think you're younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know, i don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Anyway, that's another mystery we have to solve
Exactly, but no background tobe found.
However, i found she was mainlyraised by her mom, and I think
she does have a couple ofsiblings, and her father was an
alcoholic who lived in NorthCarolina and had been arrested
(03:14):
for a DUI, and he died at theage of 57 in 2010.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I don't know anything about her siblings, i
know nothing about her mom, butI do know that about her father.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, now, i did find out that she does hold a
bachelor's degree in healthcareadministration from Weber State
University and a master's degreein human resources from Utah
State University, and she alwaysdreamed of becoming an
entrepreneur.
Because, you know, that's yes,absolutely.
(03:49):
And this was before she metEric, and she had some spurts of
success.
In 2011, she opened up ahousekeeping service called
Curry Darden HousekeepingServices, and that's no longer a
thing.
And then she also worked forher own real estate company
named Corey Rishan's Realty andobviously note the change of the
(04:12):
last name.
So obviously, at that point shehad been married And she
focused on purchasing, flippingand selling luxury homes.
And she also did have briefstints in healthcare, including
working as an administrator atPark City Hospital and as an
enhanced patient services andspecialty clinic trainer at Park
(04:34):
City Medical Center.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, and then Eric Richards, her husband.
you know we'll get back to her.
Well, actually let me just saythis about her being a realtor.
Apparently she got in trouble acouple of times for selling
properties which later the buyerhas found to have mold.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh, I saw that Yeah Mold in her kids bedroom down in
the basement.
Oh my God, it's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So that happened a couple of times to her.
But I believe at this point,you know, her husband certainly
has a lot of money And I don't.
I think these were just kind ofdrops in the bucket for her.
I don't know if she paid a fineor whatever, but it certainly
didn't revoke her real estatelicense like these few cases of
mold and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right Now it seems, and I guess the way we usually
start is, we do talk about thevictim And this time we started
talking about her because it washard to find anything on her.
But we can talk about Eric who.
This is all happening in UtahAnd it seems that there were
very well known family aroundthose parts.
(05:49):
They are.
He was a devout Mormon, as washis family.
So he was born on May 13th 1982in Bountiful Utah And his
family was a big ranching family.
His mom and dad were Gina andLinda Carter Richens.
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He loved his family, hunting,ranching, and he was also driven
to be an entrepreneur.
He was the eldest son and heenjoyed working with horses and
cows And his childhood was spentworking on the ranch with his
dad And I found out that he washauling hay, feeding the animals
, mending fences.
He loved his family.
(06:31):
He was a pretty serious anddevoted athlete.
He coached, or assisted coached, all of his boys' teams.
So this couple which, again wesaid this, was his second wife,
cory.
They had three children at thetime of his death Carter nine,
ashton seven and Weston five Andyou know, loved his boys And
(06:57):
supposedly is the reason why hewanted to make the marriage work
, even though he was planning tofile for divorce.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, going back, he also attended the ADS Mormon
church, as you said he was, andhe had a two year.
he served as a mission in NewMexico, a missionary, and is it
in New Mexico or in Mexico City?
I saw.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
New Mexico.
Okay, maybe I, maybe I did thatwrong And then that goes for.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He goes for a master's degree.
I believe in business And then,yeah, around the time I guess
he's married, he's a contractor,he soon becomes a contractor.
There's also his family'sbusiness And, yeah, let's get
into his first relationship,which is interesting, okay So,
(07:57):
and then becomes a, he becomes acontractor And then, you know,
is obviously working alongsidehis family's business, but let's
get that.
You mentioned his relationshipand his three children.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh well, no, actually his three children were with.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Corey.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, his first relationship ended up in divorce
and sadly well, and his firstwife ended up being tragically
killed in a car accident.
Because of that relationship,his mother definitely told him
to have a prenup, which isexactly what he did with Corey
Exactly.
So they had a prenup Now.
(08:35):
So you know, he's this guy,he's, he's running his own
masonry business.
They're working on high endhomes, he's doing intricate
stonework, pavers, tilework, andhe is great with relationships,
so he's coming from wealth.
So meanwhile, corey, they meetat a Home Depot through a family
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friend named Linda King.
Now, i don't want to be throwingany shade because you got to
have a job, so that's.
You know, that's just what yougot to do.
However, this guy is working ona multimillion dollar homes.
He's from a massive ranch whichI'm assuming is worth some
multimillion dollars, and youknow, i don't yeah, i don't want
(09:19):
to call her, you know a golddigger.
But at the same time, as we seelater, she starts siphoning
money out of his accounts, right, and so it kind of feels like
again all the power too.
If you find a rich husband andyou love each other, that's
great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So, by all accounts, first off, his first swipe's
name, just so we can recognizeit, is Julie Jorgensen, Before
her death.
Apparently it was a reallyrough divorce, very rough
divorce, lots of fighting.
But yeah, he does decide towork a home depot And from what
I understand she would go into ahome depot And he never had the
(10:03):
courage He was attracted to herBut apparently he had a bunch
of friends that were like go askher, go ask her out.
That's what I found out was hewas kind of pushing to be like,
hey, do you want to go outsometime?
But I don't think she knewgoing into home depot, his
status, Well, no, but I believeshe worked that home depot, not
(10:25):
him.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Was she the Home Depot?
Yeah, yeah, she was.
So Linda King worked with Coreyat Home Depot and because she
was a family friend of Eric'sfamily And it was the other, way
around He was there and hebefriended the Home Depot people
, I guess.
Well, she was a family.
(10:48):
She was Linda King.
She said that she was an olderlady.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
She was home, thinking she was probably
friends with the parents.
She's like go talk to him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Go talk to him, right , yeah.
And she said that he was this,and I have a quote from Linda
King saying quote he was thesweetest guy And to me he seemed
like one of my kids.
He was just the sweetest guy.
He was so nice to all of hisemployees and everybody, so she
was.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think he was thinking he was Home Depot.
I mixed it up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So she was kind of integral to introducing them and
they married on June 15th 2013in the backyard of their Camus
home, but I'm assuming it wasactually his Camus home.
Now, this Camus home is alsoworth quite a bit of money, yeah
(11:42):
.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So things, she has a master's in customer service,
right?
I don't know if you mentionedthat.
She has the bachelor's inhealth care and then she went
from her master's customerservice and customer service.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yes, So she does have a master's degree.
It just kind of shows wherewe're at in our United States
world right now that a personwith a master's degree is
working in Home Depot And nojudgment.
It's just like that's a wholelot of degrees Let's get back to
the mom's wanting him to have acleanup.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's what's fascinating, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I mean because this is his second marriage and
obviously he does have quite abit of money at this point.
I could you know?
just because, as you said, thedivorce was so difficult, He
probably wanted to protecthimself, And the way that they
(12:45):
did it was that they had thepremarital agreement on June 15,
2013, and then established thateach did not have rights to one
another's quote, present orfuture income, property or
assets, except if Eric Richensdied while the two were lawfully
(13:05):
married.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So it's no money if they get a divorce for either
one of them, but if one of thempasses away before the other,
the widow gets it all.
That's correct.
Those both ways, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And his partnership interest in his masonry company,
which was doing very well.
That would transfer to CurryRichens.
That's what the court documentssaid.
And also, the premaritalproperty was the Camus home,
which is worth a couple milliondollars.
So she didn't get the house ifthey divorced.
So that was the premaritalagreement and everything's going
(13:42):
well.
You know they're having kids.
He loves his wife.
He's so happy to be a dad.
However, things go a littlefunky because per roebate courts
.
Well, should we say, why don'twe go to what happened on the
night of his death And thenmaybe we can go back to what
(14:07):
investigators discovered and whythey actually arrested Corey in
the first place.
Should we do it that way?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
One of the things to note is that he took out a life
insurance which went to Coreyand his business Initially, so
we'll see that change.
But yeah, the night of hisdeath is really weird.
Incidentally, i think it's 2022.
They have the boys.
(14:36):
Anyways, let's flash forward to2020, because I think this is
2022.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So he died in 2022.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, so 2020, we had the first incident.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Also, there was some financial issues, but let's
start with what happened on theearly hours of March 4th 2022
and March 3rd 2022.
So she, corey, wanted topurchase and flip a $2 million
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property that Eric was not intobut it looks like she did close
on the home.
So she decided to make herhusband, eric, a Moscow Mule in
the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
He did not want her to get the property.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That is correct.
He felt that it was way tooexpensive And I mean I saw a
picture of it.
It's like 11 bedrooms.
It's massive, it's 11,000square feet, but it's also not
finished, which is a key thing.
So it didn't look like it hadany finishes, it looked like it
had just the framing up andlooked like maybe the sheet rock
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was up.
It had some plywood already up,but nothing else.
So obviously the foundation wasdone.
This is like me going back towhen I was an architect, because
, yes, i did work as anarchitect like 30 years ago 25,
sorry, i didn't mean to agemyself like that So it looked
like I don't know 20%, 30% done,but there was still a lot of
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work to do it and it was massive.
So he thought it was tooexpensive.
They had an argument, but thatnight, march 3rd, she made him a
Moscow Mule in the kitchen andbrought it to their bedroom
where he consumed it whilesitting in bed.
Now, that was supposedly acongratulatory drink.
(16:40):
She also gave him a THC gummy,which I found very interesting
because I thought Mormons didnot drink alcohol, nor did they
do drugs, but that's like anaside.
But so They were the onlypeople in the house and their
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children.
So she said that she went tobed shortly after.
But then one of the childrenthey were having a night terror.
So she told the police that shewoke up around 3am.
Oh, so she actually before.
She shortly after they went tobed at around 2100 hours, which
(17:26):
is what I guess 10 o'clock, nineo'clock She heard one of her
children screaming, screaming.
So she went into the child'sroom and ended up falling asleep
in their bed.
Then she said she awoke around3am on March 4th and came back
(17:48):
to the bedroom and found Ericpassed out at the foot of the
bed on the floor and he wascalled to the touch.
And that's when she said thatshe called 911 and the Summit
County Sheriff's deputies andEMS staff responded to their
residents by 322.
So there was 22 minutes betweenwhen she found him and which
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called 911 and when they gotthere.
So one of the things that thepolice noticed as they started
their investigation was that sheclaimed in her official
statement to the police thatwhen she left her room to go to
her child's room that she lefther phone plugged in next to
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their bed and did not take it tothe child's room.
But then she said when shefound him she called 911 from
her cell phone.
However, when, of course, thepolice started investigating,
they found that the status onher phone showed that it was
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locked and unlocked multipletimes and that there was also
movement recorded on the phone,and also that the defendant's
phone showed that there weremessages that were sent and
received during that time andthose messages had been deleted.
So again, we're having cellphone data that is essentially
(19:20):
proving her story incorrect,that she had been in her child's
room the entire time while herhusband was dying.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Now I believe she.
I believe she claimed that shekept going back and forth.
According to her story, shenever actually passed out in the
bed.
She would lay down in the bed,get up and go back to him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, but that's interesting, because then why
couldn't she?
I mean, her husband was, ibelieve, found at the foot of
the bed, so why is she notchecking in on him?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Like her story seemed really weird, which of course
Her story was that she keptchecking on Eric and then going
back into the room with the boyhaving the night terrors, and
then going back and forth.
So she claims.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So she claims.
I did also read in some newsarticles that she claimed that
she was in the child's bed theentire time.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The entire time.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes.
So again we're seeing that herstory is changing.
Her story changed And then herphone is moving And then when
the autopsy happens, they findout that Eric died from an
overdose of fentanyl and he hadfive times the lethal dose in
his system And, with the medicalexaminer, also found out that
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it was illicit fentanyl and notmedical grade fentanyl and that
the fentanyl he ingested orally.
Now, when the police startedtalking to his family, because
he had sisters and his mom, idon't, i'm not sure if-.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, that's the way I believe.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, so maybe it was just the sisters.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
The sisters.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
The sisters said it's the wife.
Yeah, because and this is whereit gets a little wacky is that
she had tried to poison himbefore?
Yeah, so there was specificallyone of his sisters told the
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police in an interview that Ericand Corey had taken a trip to
Greece, and this was a whileback, and this is a quote from a
sister.
It's two years prior to hisdeath.
Years prior to his death.
According to a sister, eric andhis wife went to Greece a few
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years ago and after his wifegave him a drink, he became
violently ill and called hissister saying he believed his
wife had tried to kill him.
This is in the warrant itselfAnd that's the first time.
Then, on Valentine's Day of2022, his wife brought him a
sandwich and this is also aquote from the warrant which,
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after one bite, eric broke intohives and couldn't breathe.
He used his son's EpiPen aswell as Benadryl before passing
out for several hours.
So that's the second time.
And then the third timeobviously was a success for her
allegedly So, when theinvestigators, of course, once
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they found out there was atoxicology, was that he died of
fentanyl, that he died undersuspicious circumstances.
There was a search warrant thatwas obtained for Eric and
Corey's residence, and duringthat search warrant, they
grabbed Corey's phone andseveral computers.
And then they also had warrantsfor any and all electronic
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devices and information to bedownloaded.
So when they found and wentthrough Corey's phone, they
found messages between her and aperson identified only as CL,
so he's not been identified.
(23:11):
So when they ran a backgroundcheck on the CL.
They found that this person hadmultiple counts of possession
of a controlled substance withintent to distribute and that on
that he had been found inpossession of drug paraphernalia
(23:34):
.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So If I may, also just to throw this in there,
after the attempt in 2020, ericdrew up a new loss of life trust
and took Corey off of it And heleft it all to his sister.
So that's the other thing, andCorey doesn't know about that,
but things try to go back tonormal.
(23:55):
He is very devoted to her, evenafter you know that incident.
And then, jumping forward tothis CL, she initially
approached him asking forpainkillers hydrocodone for one
of her clients.
That was initially how she cameinto contact, saying, hey, my
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client has a back problem, theavenue of this And it just kept
escalating.
So she was obviously trying,and I believe the first time of
the hydrocodone was thatValentine's Day, when she makes
enough poison to sandwich.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, well, so she was contacting him between December
2021 and February 2022.
And he actually said that heleft the pills in a house that
she was flipping, Yes, And sothere was an exchange.
And then that's when, two weekslater, she said that her
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investor wanted somethingstronger and asked for some
quote, some of the MichaelJackson stuff, end quote And the
Pory was asking for fentanyl.
And so she actually procured 15to 30 fentanyl pills from this
dealer on February 11th 2022$900.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, that's absolutely So.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm thinking actually that she that the fentanyl was
that February 14th poisoning AndI'm wondering if she tried to
poison him sometime aroundChristmas time.
That we just don't know about,That he didn't tell his family
about.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Because, incidentally , it is the Valentine's Day
sandwich He passes out and thenit's.
Then he feels he's at risk ofbeing killed for his money And
he told his friends and familyin confidence that if he dies,
she did it.
Yeah, yeah, he stays with her.
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He's very devoted Andultimately it's because he's
hesitant to get a divorce afterhis last divorce experience.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Right, and also he has three boys under the age of
10.
So it seemed that family was sovery important to him that he
wanted to try to make it work asmuch as possible Now before.
This is one other reason why hewas thinking of divorcing her
was that he found out that shehad been stealing a ton of money
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from his accounts to cover herdebts in flipping houses And
this is per a probate courtpetition documents.
So he found out that in 2020,corey had taken out 100K from
his accounts and ran up $30,000of debt on credit cards.
He then also found out that sheborrowed $250,000 using a
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fraudulent power of attorney.
She forged his initials ondocuments that she could act on
his behalf And he did confronther in 2020.
And she admitted to taking thatmoney when he confronted her.
Then also, as you said, inJanuary 2022, corey secretly
logged into Eric's lifeinsurance account and changed
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the beneficiary from Cody Wright, which was his business partner
in the masonry business, toherself.
But as we know, when thatchange happens, you always get
an email.
So Eric got an email, he wasalerted to that charge and he
changed it back to Cody Wright.
She also is accused of takingat least $80,000 from his
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accounts that were supposed tobe paying for his federal taxes
and at least $54,000 for hisstate taxes, and they haven't
yet discovered what she usedthat money for And that she also
was supposedly having an affair, which is what Eric told his
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family and friends.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That he didn't discover.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yes, so there was never any names mentioned.
But he said she's stealing mymoney and she's having an affair
.
And the spokesman for theregion's family said that, quote
there is no question that theirmarriage was on the rocks, and
quote we believe that Corey tooksome steps to manipulate their
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marital assets because of thatAnd we also believe that she
took his life because of that.
So that is the statement fromthe attorney, and Corey was
charged on May 8th with criminalhomicide, aggravated murder, a
first degree felony, two countsof possession of a controlled
substance and one possession ofa controlled substance, and she
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also.
There was a charge amended onMay 18th saying that she was
intent to distribute, which I'massuming is like she was meaning
to.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
She had a lot of stuff there.
And also she apparentlyassaults Katie Katie is Eric's
sister over power of attorneyYes, because Katie gets full
power of attorney, and so therewas actually all this.
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It's kind of stunning in thatone of the things that happened
is Corey winds up suing thefamily, the mom and Katie, over
what she feels is rightfullyhers, because Eric died before
her.
Even after all this, which islike mind blowing.
Or maybe he was in the, maybepredated perhaps his death, but
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there was always this volatileyou know, they were very
volatile Like they.
There was always something, upfrom the time they got married
until the very end, especiallyKate.
She was really in the now ofeverything.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, And also another thing that I discovered was
that on March 5th, which isliterally a day and a half after
her husband kills over and dies, she closes that deal.
It was actually a 20,000 squarefoot mansion, not even a
thousand.
And she partied, she invitedfriends over and she drank, and
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then she that's around the timethat she finds out that Eric had
removed her from his will andmade Katie power of attorney,
and so that's when she sued herfor control of the estates.
And so you know they were goingback and forth saying that the
sisters that that he didn't wantto tell Corey he removed her
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from his will because hebelieved she might kill him for
the money, which is where youknow allegedly she did, and he
wanted to make sure that he, youknow, there was financial
security for their children.
And of course Corey is sayingthat her the prenuptial
agreement because they werestill married at the time.
She is entitled to those assets.
Now, mind you, that house thatshe's living in with her three
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kids were also.
That was his property hissister owns.
So her financials became verytenuous And this is where we go
to the murder she wrote.
So she writes a book.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh, they just thrown one thing.
Yeah, it was interviewed and heactually meant that he sold
drugs.
So there's that.
Yeah, no, no, i mean, there'snever any ambiguity with regards
to this CLB, No being her drugconnection.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Oh right, exactly, And it's just, you know, a
matter of in in this place, thecourt of justice, right?
Somebody's innocent untilproven guilty in court, but it
seems that the prosecutor has apretty good case against her
right now.
She wrote a book called Are YouWith Me, which was a grieving
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book that she wrote for herchildren to help them deal with
his passing, and she actuallywent on to KTVX in April 2023,
which is a month before she wasarrested on their Good Things
Utah show to discuss her book.
So she was really working onmaking a name for herself in the
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grieving community, and thenshe was arrested a month later
for actually killing her husband.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So what's crazy is A he's illustrated in the book,
okay.
B she dedicates the book to him.
Then when she goes on TV, sheshows like, if you want, you
guys got to watch this interviewthroughout their listening.
You got to listen, you got towatch this interview.
She's smiling during theinterview, no emotion.
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She's just kind of wearing ajacket And she always refers to
Eric as dad or he or he's.
Throughout the interview.
She never mentions Eric Richens, never mentions him by name,
and there are a couple of timeswhen she's asked her any
questions.
It's really weird.
She'll snarl.
She like raises her upper lip alittle and like just show kind
(33:15):
of, you know, like she doesn'tlike the question at all.
And also she rambles during theinterview, just kind of
continuing the story and why shehad to make it.
So, yeah, so that's.
You know the book comes out in,i guess, march and then on
April you know it's meanwhileit's like doing really well,
(33:38):
like a lot of people are buyingthis book.
She's making appearances, right, but obviously when this
happens the book is full.
You can't even find it anywhere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And yeah, so you know this is it's kind of a pretty
classic case, because most womenwhen they do murder they do
tend to poison, which was alittle different from our case
last week, where she actuallyused the gun And she also was
arrested for possession of GHB,which is a drug that makes you
(34:20):
pass out, and it's a narcolepsydrug and it's often referred to
as liquid ecstasy.
But isn't GHB also the rapedrug, right?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and I couldn't find a place where they talked
about that she had used that totry to poison him, because I
would think that the fentanylpills would have done it.
But they see him again.
the police did a great job andthey followed the leads and it
looks like they got their womanAnd we.
(34:57):
I think her trial is startingstarting up in about two weeks.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, June, no bond.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No bond and we shall see see what the good people of
Utah think about her and theprosecution's case.
But I think my money is on her,on her doing it for the money.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And according to contract, i believe she was due
to write two more booksfollowing this, because it
didn't go well And there's alsospeculation she wrote this book
to help her with her debt.
Like all these, things thatcome up in And she's like, right
, like I'm broke Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Did you ever find out where she was living, or was
that still being in the part ofthe suing portion with the
sister Right?
Because I would think, yeah, iwould think that she would be.
yeah, because I would thinkthat, a they would get custody
and B that they would get kickedout of that house.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Right.
So I mean, what's fascinatingto me really about this case is,
like, if I go back here and sheDo you get married in?
is it?
do you get married in 2020?
Uh no 2013.
So, you know, that's a, that'sa bit of time, right, and it's
(36:19):
kind of like, uh, you know hekeeps saying, no, you know, can
I have some money for this?
And then she's just going totake it.
She has access to them somemoney, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
you know, i had the three children but she starts,
but she starts stealing moneyfrom him within three years,
right?
I mean she started stealingmoney in 2016.
So she was stealing before 2016because for the probate court
petition documents they said by2016, she was already pulling
money out of his house And thisis out of his accounts.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, and she's still unaware that her name is
taken off, i believe at thispoint, uh, because that's still
2016.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Cause, then, in 2020 is where he's like oh my gosh, i
got to, you know, do somethingabout this.
But there also have like littlekids.
So I'm thinking like, who'staking care of her kids, as
she's being a realtor andflipping houses?
I mean, the kids are young,yeah, um, in 2016,.
Cause I, where are they?
They, um, they're like nine,seven and five, so they're like
(37:27):
two years apart each one.
Um, yeah, i just like.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I mean, i think it's one of those cases.
You know this uh, this guy isreally afraid of uh.
You know he wants to make itwork, but you know, other than
calling your sister, he doesn'tshare it with anyone.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, but he does tell his friends that my wife is
trying to poison me.
And after the Valentine's Daybut I'm like, if your wife's
trying to poison you onValentine's Day, get the hell
out of that house with yourchildren and like go, like it's
interesting cause it's like youknow, sometimes people joke
about that in a ha ha funny way,but it's like he's getting
physically like ill, passing out, like I, just it's.
(38:11):
It's so hard for me to imaginehim getting out, not getting out
.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Right, i mean it's uh , you know, could we, could we
assume that Dan saw NancyBrophy's blog article?
You know what I mean.
Like, did he be able to see?
like you know how to murderyour husband?
And I'm writing about, like,killing him, i'm, you know
husband, and stuff.
You know like, maybe he thinksthis, maybe he's just like all
(38:42):
right, she, you know like what,yeah, it boggles my mind that
it's the second time it's onValentine's Day.
And then just to tell yourfriends and family Hey, you know
, if I die it's probably for mywife, but you know, that's
fascinating, like he doesn't.
And then it's weird becauseit's like, hey, i'm a parent,
(39:02):
like I got to be here for myfamily from my children.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And this isn't.
Family was obviously very, veryimportant to him.
He really hoped to keep hisfamily together And this is, i
wonder, where his religion cameinto play, because, you know,
family is such a huge part ofMormonism that I don't
necessarily know that they lookdown on divorce like, say, maybe
the Catholics do, but at thesame time, this idea of keeping
(39:30):
your family close, like I'mwondering if that you know
belief in family kind of let himnot fully act towards these
dangers, signals that werehappening with this woman who I
actually don't know.
Do you know if she was Mormontoo?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't know actually , but I'm you know now that
we're talking about it, perhapsthat was the riff with his first
marriage.
You know, you spend time as amissionary right For your faith.
You come back, you get marriedand there's this really
contentious divorce.
I can only, if my mind wanders,assume that perhaps she didn't
(40:10):
want to be a part of that worldand that's why maybe it looks
like so hard.
So, corey, i don't know, i meanlisten, a lot of where they are
, where they were living at thistime, was Mormon.
You know that was the verypopular faith at the time in
this area.
Well, it still is.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I mean, this is still just like a year.
This is within like a couple ofmonths ago.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
So, yeah, no, this is a big thing And maybe that was
the beginning of everything hisfamily acknowledging that she's
not a Mormon, you know, and hernot liking his family because,
no, i'm not a Mormon, but I loveyour husband, And you know that
could be another factor and,just like I, can't live in this
(40:56):
crazy world.
But either way you look at it,this is definitely a
predetermined act on her part,you know.
Yeah, no, definitely She knewwhat she was doing and you know,
it would have been great ifthey could maybe they will, if
they can interview whateverchild was having the night
terrors and she went in sayingit was bad and then, you know,
(41:19):
left, maybe.
No, it's like how were thechildren notified?
You know that's?
you know a paramedic showed upand there were no signs that she
performed CPR on him.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, you know, and the interesting thing is and
this is actually I was justremembering that when I
originally saw this and sawabout how much she kind of used
her grief to kind of make a namefor herself, yeah, it made me
think of Munchausen syndrome.
(41:49):
So Munchausen syndrome, byproxy, tends to be somebody, it
tends to be a mother.
I think it's mothers usuallypoisoning their children to get
attention and support from theircommunity as their kids are
really sick.
Yeah, it almost feels like,yeah, she killed him for his
(42:13):
money, but then, because shewasn't initially arrested for it
, she kind of used that as a wayto make a name for herself and
to get attention from people Andshe would constantly be posting
on Facebook about how much shemissed him and how hard it was
being a single mom.
(42:34):
And so it has that like kind oftaste of something like the
Munchausen syndrome, where theyare hurting somebody to get
attention for themselves.
And in this matter she actuallykilled him and, as now I was
reaping the benefits of all thegrief and she has the three
(42:54):
young kids and how hard it isand how much they miss him,
which is she actually came upwith a concept of what she
called the three C's asconnection, continuity and care,
and she made videos about thatthat his spirit was always alive
(43:17):
in their home and that that isstill here, it's just in a
different way.
So she's like really milking itas it was, and being the person
who actually caused it Sofascinating case.
We will keep abreast.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
And premeditated, not predetermined.
Yeah, Premeditated And it yeah,it's like flashbacks to Susan
Smith.
Now they mentioned theMunchausen.
Right, You know she puts herkids in the car and oh my God,
And you know I like that she did.
It's just so mind boggling tome that If she didn't kill him,
(44:02):
that's not the response he wouldhave.
She goes in parties, She's veryexcited.
I believe off the bat she's anarcissist.
I don't think she's apsychopath.
I don't think she falls intobeing a sociopath either.
It seems to me like she knowswhat she's doing.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Well, there was actually, and I think we've
mentioned this podcast before.
It's not like it's defunct, butit still exists.
It was called Red-Handed.
It was talking aboutwhite-collar criminals who get
caught.
When they get caught, becauseof the way that their minds work
, they end up killing, which iswhy she called it Red-Handed.
(44:41):
This almost feels a little bitlike that too, where she is a
white-collar criminal stealingfrom her husband money and
obviously doing a very poor jobof flipping these houses, since
she's getting sued by the peoplewho buy the houses from her.
I wonder if she starteddeciding, oh, i have to kill him
.
When he confronted her in 2020,being like I know you've stolen
(45:06):
my money because a lot ofprofilers they talk about how
you don't.
The most dangerous time forsomebody is when they accuse a
close associate of fraud becausethere's this issue of I'm going
(45:27):
to get caught, you're takingeverything away from me, you've
put me into a corner.
And 2020 exactly, and 2020 isaround the time of that Greece
trip, and so that was the firsttime.
And then now, what business isshe having?
buying a 20,000 square footmansion?
(45:47):
And he's saying no, and theydid have an argument about that.
So it's again like she's gettingpushed into the wall, her fraud
schemes are coming out Andshe's like, well, i'm going to
make this go away.
So I have the freedom, becauseI got the millions of dollars,
to just go on my happy way doingthe things that I want to do
(46:11):
And also getting attention forit, because there is that
pathology.
I mean she'd be very curious tosee what her trial is going to
look like.
Maybe we do a as her trialstarts.
We do another episode talkingabout what the prosecutors come
out with, because I am verycurious to hear what the
prosecutors like if they do geta psychologist on the stand, or
(46:32):
like how she puts herself on thestand.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I mean, the anti-prophy was kind of an open
and shut case right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean, this feels kind of like an open and shut
case too, quite honestly.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Absolutely.
You know I have to ask you this.
if I called you saying, hey,you know, my wife just poisoned
me and if I die it's going to bebecause of her, what would you
do?
I mean, do you keep that toyourself?
Do you call the authorities?
You know that's a question.
No, i mean I wouldn't putpeople in like what would you do
(47:04):
?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well, the thing is, as a sister, i would probably
like come with my car with thekids, being like get in the car,
take the kids.
You're getting a divorce 100%If you're family right 100%.
And you'd probably take the guyand be like dude, go get
yourself tested to see what wasin your system, to figure out
what made you ill and get thehell out of that house for the
(47:27):
security of your children.
So I think, in either way, idon't think I would take it as a
joke, especially since I'm surehis friends and his family
already knew that she stole alot of money from him.
So this is already somebody whois a criminal by doing that.
So, yeah, i mean I wouldprobably show up with the car
(47:47):
being like okay, she stole yourmoney.
I know you want the kids.
Grab the kids, let's go to anattorney's office, let's serve
divorce papers.
Go move into your nice, youknow your parents' house at the
ranch.
Yeah, try to get custody ofthem.
Like, especially because he gotviolently ill, like it wasn't
like he passed out after thatsandwich.
So, and because of whathappened in Greece too, like
(48:09):
it's interesting.
But again, we don't know howmuch this like idea of family
affects him.
So it's you know, and his faith,and his faith.
So that's, i think that has tobe taken into consideration.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And let's be thankful she didn't do this to the
children as well, You know yeah,exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Um, so that was the case of Story rations, which we
will find out what's going tohappen to her next and stay in
tune for next week.
I'm not sure what we're goingto do next, but it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Now what would, if I may, if one of the children rose
up and writes a book mommies injail, it'll be a best seller.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Right.
Full circle, full circle, fullcircle.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to The Deviant Mind
.
This is your host, Dominica.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And this is Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And we are having part two of our Murder.
She Wrote series with anotherwoman who is allegedly she's on
trial, so we she has not beenyet found guilty, but this is
the case of Corey Richens,richens and Eric Richens.
(00:59):
She is a self-published griefbook author.
She's also a house flipper andrealtor developer from Utah who
is accused of poisoning herhusband, eric, with fentanyl And
(01:22):
she's currently on trial.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Or, as she calls it, the Michael Jackson stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The Michael Jackson stuff.
That's right.
Yeah, so you know it'sinteresting when you do new
ongoing cases like this it'skind of sometimes hard to find
information about the defendantas the police document warrant
(01:50):
for her arrest.
Call it Because you know it'sinteresting, because she's a
private citizen And so it wasdefinitely kind of hard to dig
stuff up from her.
But did you?
you are usually the documentarywatcher.
Have you heard any people talkabout?
(02:11):
well, i know this case is againall about money, but any
discussion about any pathologiesshe might have, like narcissism
, sociopath, i mean it'sinteresting because she was born
in 1990, Corey was.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Which is crazy.
Which is crazy, right, 1990.
Welcome to feeling old.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, oh God okay.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I say that for myself .
You're a young person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh, for me I was in high school, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, I think you're younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know, i don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Anyway, that's another mystery we have to solve
Exactly, but no background tobe found.
However, i found she was mainlyraised by her mom, and I think
she does have a couple ofsiblings, and her father was an
alcoholic who lived in NorthCarolina and had been arrested
(03:14):
for a DUI, and he died at theage of 57 in 2010.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I don't know anything about her siblings, i
know nothing about her mom, butI do know that about her father.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, now, i did find out that she does hold a
bachelor's degree in healthcareadministration from Weber State
University and a master's degreein human resources from Utah
State University, and she alwaysdreamed of becoming an
entrepreneur.
Because, you know, that's yes,absolutely.
(03:49):
And this was before she metEric, and she had some spurts of
success.
In 2011, she opened up ahousekeeping service called
Curry Darden HousekeepingServices, and that's no longer a
thing.
And then she also worked forher own real estate company
named Corey Rishan's Realty andobviously note the change of the
(04:12):
last name.
So obviously, at that point shehad been married And she
focused on purchasing, flippingand selling luxury homes.
And she also did have briefstints in healthcare, including
working as an administrator atPark City Hospital and as an
enhanced patient services andspecialty clinic trainer at Park
(04:34):
City Medical Center.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, and then Eric Richards, her husband.
you know we'll get back to her.
Well, actually let me just saythis about her being a realtor.
Apparently she got in trouble acouple of times for selling
properties which later the buyerhas found to have mold.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh, I saw that Yeah Mold in her kids bedroom down in
the basement.
Oh my God, it's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So that happened a couple of times to her.
But I believe at this point,you know, her husband certainly
has a lot of money And I don't.
I think these were just kind ofdrops in the bucket for her.
I don't know if she paid a fineor whatever, but it certainly
didn't revoke her real estatelicense like these few cases of
mold and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right Now it seems, and I guess the way we usually
start is, we do talk about thevictim And this time we started
talking about her because it washard to find anything on her.
But we can talk about Eric who.
This is all happening in UtahAnd it seems that there were
very well known family aroundthose parts.
(05:49):
They are.
He was a devout Mormon, as washis family.
So he was born on May 13th 1982in Bountiful Utah And his
family was a big ranching family.
His mom and dad were Gina andLinda Carter Richens.
(06:10):
He loved his family, hunting,ranching, and he was also driven
to be an entrepreneur.
He was the eldest son and heenjoyed working with horses and
cows And his childhood was spentworking on the ranch with his
dad And I found out that he washauling hay, feeding the animals
, mending fences.
He loved his family.
(06:31):
He was a pretty serious anddevoted athlete.
He coached, or assisted coached, all of his boys' teams.
So this couple which, again wesaid this, was his second wife,
cory.
They had three children at thetime of his death Carter nine,
ashton seven and Weston five Andyou know, loved his boys And
(06:57):
supposedly is the reason why hewanted to make the marriage work
, even though he was planning tofile for divorce.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, going back, he also attended the ADS Mormon
church, as you said he was, andhe had a two year.
he served as a mission in NewMexico, a missionary, and is it
in New Mexico or in Mexico City?
I saw.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
New Mexico.
Okay, maybe I, maybe I did thatwrong And then that goes for.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He goes for a master's degree.
I believe in business And then,yeah, around the time I guess
he's married, he's a contractor,he soon becomes a contractor.
There's also his family'sbusiness And, yeah, let's get
into his first relationship,which is interesting, okay So,
(07:57):
and then becomes a, he becomes acontractor And then, you know,
is obviously working alongsidehis family's business, but let's
get that.
You mentioned his relationshipand his three children.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh well, no, actually his three children were with.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Corey.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, his first relationship ended up in divorce
and sadly well, and his firstwife ended up being tragically
killed in a car accident.
Because of that relationship,his mother definitely told him
to have a prenup, which isexactly what he did with Corey
Exactly.
So they had a prenup Now.
(08:35):
So you know, he's this guy,he's, he's running his own
masonry business.
They're working on high endhomes, he's doing intricate
stonework, pavers, tilework, andhe is great with relationships,
so he's coming from wealth.
So meanwhile, corey, they meetat a Home Depot through a family
(08:55):
friend named Linda King.
Now, i don't want to be throwingany shade because you got to
have a job, so that's.
You know, that's just what yougot to do.
However, this guy is working ona multimillion dollar homes.
He's from a massive ranch whichI'm assuming is worth some
multimillion dollars, and youknow, i don't yeah, i don't want
(09:19):
to call her, you know a golddigger.
But at the same time, as we seelater, she starts siphoning
money out of his accounts, right, and so it kind of feels like
again all the power too.
If you find a rich husband andyou love each other, that's
great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So, by all accounts, first off, his first swipe's
name, just so we can recognizeit, is Julie Jorgensen, Before
her death.
Apparently it was a reallyrough divorce, very rough
divorce, lots of fighting.
But yeah, he does decide towork a home depot And from what
I understand she would go into ahome depot And he never had the
(10:03):
courage He was attracted to herBut apparently he had a bunch
of friends that were like go askher, go ask her out.
That's what I found out was hewas kind of pushing to be like,
hey, do you want to go outsometime?
But I don't think she knewgoing into home depot, his
status, Well, no, but I believeshe worked that home depot, not
(10:25):
him.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Was she the Home Depot?
Yeah, yeah, she was.
So Linda King worked with Coreyat Home Depot and because she
was a family friend of Eric'sfamily And it was the other, way
around He was there and hebefriended the Home Depot people
, I guess.
Well, she was a family.
(10:48):
She was Linda King.
She said that she was an olderlady.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
She was home, thinking she was probably
friends with the parents.
She's like go talk to him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Go talk to him, right , yeah.
And she said that he was this,and I have a quote from Linda
King saying quote he was thesweetest guy And to me he seemed
like one of my kids.
He was just the sweetest guy.
He was so nice to all of hisemployees and everybody, so she
was.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think he was thinking he was Home Depot.
I mixed it up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So she was kind of integral to introducing them and
they married on June 15th 2013in the backyard of their Camus
home, but I'm assuming it wasactually his Camus home.
Now, this Camus home is alsoworth quite a bit of money, yeah
(11:42):
.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So things, she has a master's in customer service,
right?
I don't know if you mentionedthat.
She has the bachelor's inhealth care and then she went
from her master's customerservice and customer service.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yes, So she does have a master's degree.
It just kind of shows wherewe're at in our United States
world right now that a personwith a master's degree is
working in Home Depot And nojudgment.
It's just like that's a wholelot of degrees Let's get back to
the mom's wanting him to have acleanup.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's what's fascinating, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I mean because this is his second marriage and
obviously he does have quite abit of money at this point.
I could you know?
just because, as you said, thedivorce was so difficult, He
probably wanted to protecthimself, And the way that they
(12:45):
did it was that they had thepremarital agreement on June 15,
2013, and then established thateach did not have rights to one
another's quote, present orfuture income, property or
assets, except if Eric Richensdied while the two were lawfully
(13:05):
married.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So it's no money if they get a divorce for either
one of them, but if one of thempasses away before the other,
the widow gets it all.
That's correct.
Those both ways, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And his partnership interest in his masonry company,
which was doing very well.
That would transfer to CurryRichens.
That's what the court documentssaid.
And also, the premaritalproperty was the Camus home,
which is worth a couple milliondollars.
So she didn't get the house ifthey divorced.
So that was the premaritalagreement and everything's going
(13:42):
well.
You know they're having kids.
He loves his wife.
He's so happy to be a dad.
However, things go a littlefunky because per roebate courts
.
Well, should we say, why don'twe go to what happened on the
night of his death And thenmaybe we can go back to what
(14:07):
investigators discovered and whythey actually arrested Corey in
the first place.
Should we do it that way?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
One of the things to note is that he took out a life
insurance which went to Coreyand his business Initially, so
we'll see that change.
But yeah, the night of hisdeath is really weird.
Incidentally, i think it's 2022.
They have the boys.
(14:36):
Anyways, let's flash forward to2020, because I think this is
2022.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So he died in 2022.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, so 2020, we had the first incident.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Also, there was some financial issues, but let's
start with what happened on theearly hours of March 4th 2022
and March 3rd 2022.
So she, corey, wanted topurchase and flip a $2 million
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property that Eric was not intobut it looks like she did close
on the home.
So she decided to make herhusband, eric, a Moscow Mule in
the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
He did not want her to get the property.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That is correct.
He felt that it was way tooexpensive And I mean I saw a
picture of it.
It's like 11 bedrooms.
It's massive, it's 11,000square feet, but it's also not
finished, which is a key thing.
So it didn't look like it hadany finishes, it looked like it
had just the framing up andlooked like maybe the sheet rock
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was up.
It had some plywood already up,but nothing else.
So obviously the foundation wasdone.
This is like me going back towhen I was an architect, because
, yes, i did work as anarchitect like 30 years ago 25,
sorry, i didn't mean to agemyself like that So it looked
like I don't know 20%, 30% done,but there was still a lot of
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work to do it and it was massive.
So he thought it was tooexpensive.
They had an argument, but thatnight, march 3rd, she made him a
Moscow Mule in the kitchen andbrought it to their bedroom
where he consumed it whilesitting in bed.
Now, that was supposedly acongratulatory drink.
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She also gave him a THC gummy,which I found very interesting
because I thought Mormons didnot drink alcohol, nor did they
do drugs, but that's like anaside.
But so They were the onlypeople in the house and their
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children.
So she said that she went tobed shortly after.
But then one of the childrenthey were having a night terror.
So she told the police that shewoke up around 3am.
Oh, so she actually before.
She shortly after they went tobed at around 2100 hours, which
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is what I guess 10 o'clock, nineo'clock She heard one of her
children screaming, screaming.
So she went into the child'sroom and ended up falling asleep
in their bed.
Then she said she awoke around3am on March 4th and came back
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to the bedroom and found Ericpassed out at the foot of the
bed on the floor and he wascalled to the touch.
And that's when she said thatshe called 911 and the Summit
County Sheriff's deputies andEMS staff responded to their
residents by 322.
So there was 22 minutes betweenwhen she found him and which
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called 911 and when they gotthere.
So one of the things that thepolice noticed as they started
their investigation was that sheclaimed in her official
statement to the police thatwhen she left her room to go to
her child's room that she lefther phone plugged in next to
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their bed and did not take it tothe child's room.
But then she said when shefound him she called 911 from
her cell phone.
However, when, of course, thepolice started investigating,
they found that the status onher phone showed that it was
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locked and unlocked multipletimes and that there was also
movement recorded on the phone,and also that the defendant's
phone showed that there weremessages that were sent and
received during that time andthose messages had been deleted.
So again, we're having cellphone data that is essentially
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proving her story incorrect,that she had been in her child's
room the entire time while herhusband was dying.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Now I believe she.
I believe she claimed that shekept going back and forth.
According to her story, shenever actually passed out in the
bed.
She would lay down in the bed,get up and go back to him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, but that's interesting, because then why
couldn't she?
I mean, her husband was, ibelieve, found at the foot of
the bed, so why is she notchecking in on him?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Like her story seemed really weird, which of course
Her story was that she keptchecking on Eric and then going
back into the room with the boyhaving the night terrors, and
then going back and forth.
So she claims.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So she claims.
I did also read in some newsarticles that she claimed that
she was in the child's bed theentire time.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The entire time.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes.
So again we're seeing that herstory is changing.
Her story changed And then herphone is moving And then when
the autopsy happens, they findout that Eric died from an
overdose of fentanyl and he hadfive times the lethal dose in
his system And, with the medicalexaminer, also found out that
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it was illicit fentanyl and notmedical grade fentanyl and that
the fentanyl he ingested orally.
Now, when the police startedtalking to his family, because
he had sisters and his mom, idon't, i'm not sure if-.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, that's the way I believe.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, so maybe it was just the sisters.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
The sisters.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
The sisters said it's the wife.
Yeah, because and this is whereit gets a little wacky is that
she had tried to poison himbefore?
Yeah, so there was specificallyone of his sisters told the
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police in an interview that Ericand Corey had taken a trip to
Greece, and this was a whileback, and this is a quote from a
sister.
It's two years prior to hisdeath.
Years prior to his death.
According to a sister, eric andhis wife went to Greece a few
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years ago and after his wifegave him a drink, he became
violently ill and called hissister saying he believed his
wife had tried to kill him.
This is in the warrant itselfAnd that's the first time.
Then, on Valentine's Day of2022, his wife brought him a
sandwich and this is also aquote from the warrant which,
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after one bite, eric broke intohives and couldn't breathe.
He used his son's EpiPen aswell as Benadryl before passing
out for several hours.
So that's the second time.
And then the third timeobviously was a success for her
allegedly So, when theinvestigators, of course, once
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they found out there was atoxicology, was that he died of
fentanyl, that he died undersuspicious circumstances.
There was a search warrant thatwas obtained for Eric and
Corey's residence, and duringthat search warrant, they
grabbed Corey's phone andseveral computers.
And then they also had warrantsfor any and all electronic
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devices and information to bedownloaded.
So when they found and wentthrough Corey's phone, they
found messages between her and aperson identified only as CL,
so he's not been identified.
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So when they ran a backgroundcheck on the CL.
They found that this person hadmultiple counts of possession
of a controlled substance withintent to distribute and that on
that he had been found inpossession of drug paraphernalia
(23:34):
.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So If I may, also just to throw this in there,
after the attempt in 2020, ericdrew up a new loss of life trust
and took Corey off of it And heleft it all to his sister.
So that's the other thing, andCorey doesn't know about that,
but things try to go back tonormal.
(23:55):
He is very devoted to her, evenafter you know that incident.
And then, jumping forward tothis CL, she initially
approached him asking forpainkillers hydrocodone for one
of her clients.
That was initially how she cameinto contact, saying, hey, my
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client has a back problem, theavenue of this And it just kept
escalating.
So she was obviously trying,and I believe the first time of
the hydrocodone was thatValentine's Day, when she makes
enough poison to sandwich.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, well, so she was contacting him between December
2021 and February 2022.
And he actually said that heleft the pills in a house that
she was flipping, Yes, And sothere was an exchange.
And then that's when, two weekslater, she said that her
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investor wanted somethingstronger and asked for some
quote, some of the MichaelJackson stuff, end quote And the
Pory was asking for fentanyl.
And so she actually procured 15to 30 fentanyl pills from this
dealer on February 11th 2022$900.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, that's absolutely So.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm thinking actually that she that the fentanyl was
that February 14th poisoning AndI'm wondering if she tried to
poison him sometime aroundChristmas time.
That we just don't know about,That he didn't tell his family
about.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Because, incidentally , it is the Valentine's Day
sandwich He passes out and thenit's.
Then he feels he's at risk ofbeing killed for his money And
he told his friends and familyin confidence that if he dies,
she did it.
Yeah, yeah, he stays with her.
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He's very devoted Andultimately it's because he's
hesitant to get a divorce afterhis last divorce experience.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Right, and also he has three boys under the age of
10.
So it seemed that family was sovery important to him that he
wanted to try to make it work asmuch as possible Now before.
This is one other reason why hewas thinking of divorcing her
was that he found out that shehad been stealing a ton of money
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from his accounts to cover herdebts in flipping houses And
this is per a probate courtpetition documents.
So he found out that in 2020,corey had taken out 100K from
his accounts and ran up $30,000of debt on credit cards.
He then also found out that sheborrowed $250,000 using a
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fraudulent power of attorney.
She forged his initials ondocuments that she could act on
his behalf And he did confronther in 2020.
And she admitted to taking thatmoney when he confronted her.
Then also, as you said, inJanuary 2022, corey secretly
logged into Eric's lifeinsurance account and changed
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the beneficiary from Cody Wright, which was his business partner
in the masonry business, toherself.
But as we know, when thatchange happens, you always get
an email.
So Eric got an email, he wasalerted to that charge and he
changed it back to Cody Wright.
She also is accused of takingat least $80,000 from his
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accounts that were supposed tobe paying for his federal taxes
and at least $54,000 for hisstate taxes, and they haven't
yet discovered what she usedthat money for And that she also
was supposedly having an affair, which is what Eric told his
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family and friends.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That he didn't discover.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yes, so there was never any names mentioned.
But he said she's stealing mymoney and she's having an affair
.
And the spokesman for theregion's family said that, quote
there is no question that theirmarriage was on the rocks, and
quote we believe that Corey tooksome steps to manipulate their
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marital assets because of thatAnd we also believe that she
took his life because of that.
So that is the statement fromthe attorney, and Corey was
charged on May 8th with criminalhomicide, aggravated murder, a
first degree felony, two countsof possession of a controlled
substance and one possession ofa controlled substance, and she
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also.
There was a charge amended onMay 18th saying that she was
intent to distribute, which I'massuming is like she was meaning
to.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
She had a lot of stuff there.
And also she apparentlyassaults Katie Katie is Eric's
sister over power of attorneyYes, because Katie gets full
power of attorney, and so therewas actually all this.
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It's kind of stunning in thatone of the things that happened
is Corey winds up suing thefamily, the mom and Katie, over
what she feels is rightfullyhers, because Eric died before
her.
Even after all this, which islike mind blowing.
Or maybe he was in the, maybepredated perhaps his death, but
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there was always this volatileyou know, they were very
volatile Like they.
There was always something, upfrom the time they got married
until the very end, especiallyKate.
She was really in the now ofeverything.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, And also another thing that I discovered was
that on March 5th, which isliterally a day and a half after
her husband kills over and dies, she closes that deal.
It was actually a 20,000 squarefoot mansion, not even a
thousand.
And she partied, she invitedfriends over and she drank, and
(30:16):
then she that's around the timethat she finds out that Eric had
removed her from his will andmade Katie power of attorney,
and so that's when she sued herfor control of the estates.
And so you know they were goingback and forth saying that the
sisters that that he didn't wantto tell Corey he removed her
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from his will because hebelieved she might kill him for
the money, which is where youknow allegedly she did, and he
wanted to make sure that he, youknow, there was financial
security for their children.
And of course Corey is sayingthat her the prenuptial
agreement because they werestill married at the time.
She is entitled to those assets.
Now, mind you, that house thatshe's living in with her three
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kids were also.
That was his property hissister owns.
So her financials became verytenuous And this is where we go
to the murder she wrote.
So she writes a book.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh, they just thrown one thing.
Yeah, it was interviewed and heactually meant that he sold
drugs.
So there's that.
Yeah, no, no, i mean, there'snever any ambiguity with regards
to this CLB, No being her drugconnection.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Oh right, exactly, And it's just, you know, a
matter of in in this place, thecourt of justice, right?
Somebody's innocent untilproven guilty in court, but it
seems that the prosecutor has apretty good case against her
right now.
She wrote a book called Are YouWith Me, which was a grieving
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book that she wrote for herchildren to help them deal with
his passing, and she actuallywent on to KTVX in April 2023,
which is a month before she wasarrested on their Good Things
Utah show to discuss her book.
So she was really working onmaking a name for herself in the
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grieving community, and thenshe was arrested a month later
for actually killing her husband.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So what's crazy is A he's illustrated in the book,
okay.
B she dedicates the book to him.
Then when she goes on TV, sheshows like, if you want, you
guys got to watch this interviewthroughout their listening.
You got to listen, you got towatch this interview.
She's smiling during theinterview, no emotion.
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She's just kind of wearing ajacket And she always refers to
Eric as dad or he or he's.
Throughout the interview.
She never mentions Eric Richens, never mentions him by name,
and there are a couple of timeswhen she's asked her any
questions.
It's really weird.
She'll snarl.
She like raises her upper lip alittle and like just show kind
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of, you know, like she doesn'tlike the question at all.
And also she rambles during theinterview, just kind of
continuing the story and why shehad to make it.
So, yeah, so that's.
You know the book comes out in,i guess, march and then on
April you know it's meanwhileit's like doing really well,
(33:38):
like a lot of people are buyingthis book.
She's making appearances, right, but obviously when this
happens the book is full.
You can't even find it anywhere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And yeah, so you know this is it's kind of a pretty
classic case, because most womenwhen they do murder they do
tend to poison, which was alittle different from our case
last week, where she actuallyused the gun And she also was
arrested for possession of GHB,which is a drug that makes you
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pass out, and it's a narcolepsydrug and it's often referred to
as liquid ecstasy.
But isn't GHB also the rapedrug, right?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and I couldn't find a place where they talked
about that she had used that totry to poison him, because I
would think that the fentanylpills would have done it.
But they see him again.
the police did a great job andthey followed the leads and it
looks like they got their womanAnd we.
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I think her trial is startingstarting up in about two weeks.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, June, no bond.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No bond and we shall see see what the good people of
Utah think about her and theprosecution's case.
But I think my money is on her,on her doing it for the money.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And according to contract, i believe she was due
to write two more booksfollowing this, because it
didn't go well And there's alsospeculation she wrote this book
to help her with her debt.
Like all these, things thatcome up in And she's like, right
, like I'm broke Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Did you ever find out where she was living, or was
that still being in the part ofthe suing portion with the
sister Right?
Because I would think, yeah, iwould think that she would be.
yeah, because I would thinkthat, a they would get custody
and B that they would get kickedout of that house.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Right.
So I mean, what's fascinatingto me really about this case is,
like, if I go back here and sheDo you get married in?
is it?
do you get married in 2020?
Uh no 2013.
So, you know, that's a, that'sa bit of time, right, and it's
(36:19):
kind of like, uh, you know hekeeps saying, no, you know, can
I have some money for this?
And then she's just going totake it.
She has access to them somemoney, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
you know, i had the three children but she starts,
but she starts stealing moneyfrom him within three years,
right?
I mean she started stealingmoney in 2016.
So she was stealing before 2016because for the probate court
petition documents they said by2016, she was already pulling
money out of his house And thisis out of his accounts.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, and she's still unaware that her name is
taken off, i believe at thispoint, uh, because that's still
2016.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Cause, then, in 2020 is where he's like oh my gosh, i
got to, you know, do somethingabout this.
But there also have like littlekids.
So I'm thinking like, who'staking care of her kids, as
she's being a realtor andflipping houses?
I mean, the kids are young,yeah, um, in 2016,.
Cause I, where are they?
They, um, they're like nine,seven and five, so they're like
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two years apart each one.
Um, yeah, i just like.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I mean, i think it's one of those cases.
You know this uh, this guy isreally afraid of uh.
You know he wants to make itwork, but you know, other than
calling your sister, he doesn'tshare it with anyone.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, but he does tell his friends that my wife is
trying to poison me.
And after the Valentine's Daybut I'm like, if your wife's
trying to poison you onValentine's Day, get the hell
out of that house with yourchildren and like go, like it's
interesting cause it's like youknow, sometimes people joke
about that in a ha ha funny way,but it's like he's getting
physically like ill, passing out, like I, just it's.
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It's so hard for me to imaginehim getting out, not getting out
.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Right, i mean it's uh , you know, could we, could we
assume that Dan saw NancyBrophy's blog article?
You know what I mean.
Like, did he be able to see?
like you know how to murderyour husband?
And I'm writing about, like,killing him, i'm, you know
husband, and stuff.
You know like, maybe he thinksthis, maybe he's just like all
(38:42):
right, she, you know like what,yeah, it boggles my mind that
it's the second time it's onValentine's Day.
And then just to tell yourfriends and family Hey, you know
, if I die it's probably for mywife, but you know, that's
fascinating, like he doesn't.
And then it's weird becauseit's like, hey, i'm a parent,
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like I got to be here for myfamily from my children.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And this isn't.
Family was obviously very, veryimportant to him.
He really hoped to keep hisfamily together And this is, i
wonder, where his religion cameinto play, because, you know,
family is such a huge part ofMormonism that I don't
necessarily know that they lookdown on divorce like, say, maybe
the Catholics do, but at thesame time, this idea of keeping
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your family close, like I'mwondering if that you know
belief in family kind of let himnot fully act towards these
dangers, signals that werehappening with this woman who I
actually don't know.
Do you know if she was Mormontoo?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't know actually , but I'm you know now that
we're talking about it, perhapsthat was the riff with his first
marriage.
You know, you spend time as amissionary right For your faith.
You come back, you get marriedand there's this really
contentious divorce.
I can only, if my mind wanders,assume that perhaps she didn't
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want to be a part of that worldand that's why maybe it looks
like so hard.
So, corey, i don't know, i meanlisten, a lot of where they are
, where they were living at thistime, was Mormon.
You know that was the verypopular faith at the time in
this area.
Well, it still is.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I mean, this is still just like a year.
This is within like a couple ofmonths ago.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
So, yeah, no, this is a big thing And maybe that was
the beginning of everything hisfamily acknowledging that she's
not a Mormon, you know, and hernot liking his family because,
no, i'm not a Mormon, but I loveyour husband, And you know that
could be another factor and,just like I, can't live in this
(40:56):
crazy world.
But either way you look at it,this is definitely a
predetermined act on her part,you know.
Yeah, no, definitely She knewwhat she was doing and you know,
it would have been great ifthey could maybe they will, if
they can interview whateverchild was having the night
terrors and she went in sayingit was bad and then, you know,
(41:19):
left, maybe.
No, it's like how were thechildren notified?
You know that's?
you know a paramedic showed upand there were no signs that she
performed CPR on him.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, you know, and the interesting thing is and
this is actually I was justremembering that when I
originally saw this and sawabout how much she kind of used
her grief to kind of make a namefor herself, yeah, it made me
think of Munchausen syndrome.
(41:49):
So Munchausen syndrome, byproxy, tends to be somebody, it
tends to be a mother.
I think it's mothers usuallypoisoning their children to get
attention and support from theircommunity as their kids are
really sick.
Yeah, it almost feels like,yeah, she killed him for his
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money, but then, because shewasn't initially arrested for it
, she kind of used that as a wayto make a name for herself and
to get attention from people Andshe would constantly be posting
on Facebook about how much shemissed him and how hard it was
being a single mom.
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And so it has that like kind oftaste of something like the
Munchausen syndrome, where theyare hurting somebody to get
attention for themselves.
And in this matter she actuallykilled him and, as now I was
reaping the benefits of all thegrief and she has the three
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young kids and how hard it isand how much they miss him,
which is she actually came upwith a concept of what she
called the three C's asconnection, continuity and care,
and she made videos about thatthat his spirit was always alive
(43:17):
in their home and that that isstill here, it's just in a
different way.
So she's like really milking itas it was, and being the person
who actually caused it Sofascinating case.
We will keep abreast.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
And premeditated, not predetermined.
Yeah, Premeditated And it yeah,it's like flashbacks to Susan
Smith.
Now they mentioned theMunchausen.
Right, You know she puts herkids in the car and oh my God,
And you know I like that she did.
It's just so mind boggling tome that If she didn't kill him,
(44:02):
that's not the response he wouldhave.
She goes in parties, She's veryexcited.
I believe off the bat she's anarcissist.
I don't think she's apsychopath.
I don't think she falls intobeing a sociopath either.
It seems to me like she knowswhat she's doing.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Well, there was actually, and I think we've
mentioned this podcast before.
It's not like it's defunct, butit still exists.
It was called Red-Handed.
It was talking aboutwhite-collar criminals who get
caught.
When they get caught, becauseof the way that their minds work
, they end up killing, which iswhy she called it Red-Handed.
(44:41):
This almost feels a little bitlike that too, where she is a
white-collar criminal stealingfrom her husband money and
obviously doing a very poor jobof flipping these houses, since
she's getting sued by the peoplewho buy the houses from her.
I wonder if she starteddeciding, oh, i have to kill him
.
When he confronted her in 2020,being like I know you've stolen
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my money because a lot ofprofilers they talk about how
you don't.
The most dangerous time forsomebody is when they accuse a
close associate of fraud becausethere's this issue of I'm going
(45:27):
to get caught, you're takingeverything away from me, you've
put me into a corner.
And 2020 exactly, and 2020 isaround the time of that Greece
trip, and so that was the firsttime.
And then now, what business isshe having?
buying a 20,000 square footmansion?
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And he's saying no, and theydid have an argument about that.
So it's again like she's gettingpushed into the wall, her fraud
schemes are coming out Andshe's like, well, i'm going to
make this go away.
So I have the freedom, becauseI got the millions of dollars,
to just go on my happy way doingthe things that I want to do
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And also getting attention forit, because there is that
pathology.
I mean she'd be very curious tosee what her trial is going to
look like.
Maybe we do a as her trialstarts.
We do another episode talkingabout what the prosecutors come
out with, because I am verycurious to hear what the
prosecutors like if they do geta psychologist on the stand, or
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like how she puts herself on thestand.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I mean, the anti-prophy was kind of an open
and shut case right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean, this feels kind of like an open and shut
case too, quite honestly.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Absolutely.
You know I have to ask you this.
if I called you saying, hey,you know, my wife just poisoned
me and if I die it's going to bebecause of her, what would you
do?
I mean, do you keep that toyourself?
Do you call the authorities?
You know that's a question.
No, i mean I wouldn't putpeople in like what would you do
(47:04):
?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well, the thing is, as a sister, i would probably
like come with my car with thekids, being like get in the car,
take the kids.
You're getting a divorce 100%If you're family right 100%.
And you'd probably take the guyand be like dude, go get
yourself tested to see what wasin your system, to figure out
what made you ill and get thehell out of that house for the
(47:27):
security of your children.
So I think, in either way, idon't think I would take it as a
joke, especially since I'm surehis friends and his family
already knew that she stole alot of money from him.
So this is already somebody whois a criminal by doing that.
So, yeah, i mean I wouldprobably show up with the car
(47:47):
being like okay, she stole yourmoney.
I know you want the kids.
Grab the kids, let's go to anattorney's office, let's serve
divorce papers.
Go move into your nice, youknow your parents' house at the
ranch.
Yeah, try to get custody ofthem.
Like, especially because he gotviolently ill, like it wasn't
like he passed out after thatsandwich.
So, and because of whathappened in Greece too, like
(48:09):
it's interesting.
But again, we don't know howmuch this like idea of family
affects him.
So it's you know, and his faith,and his faith.
So that's, i think that has tobe taken into consideration.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
And let's be thankful she didn't do this to the
children as well, You know yeah,exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Um, so that was the case of Story rations, which we
will find out what's going tohappen to her next and stay in
tune for next week.
I'm not sure what we're goingto do next, but it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Now what would, if I may, if one of the children rose
up and writes a book mommies injail, it'll be a best seller.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Right.
Full circle, full circle, fullcircle.
All right, everybody, till nextweek.
Thanks.
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