May 2, 2025 • 29 mins
Jim Turner talks about doing one of our first pilots, Monkey World, being friends for 32 years, being the kind of guy who shows up at shows, makes shows, raises money for important causes, The Good Deed Corporation, Harry Styles, poker games, basketball games, Des Moines, Randy of The Redwoods, running for President, and almost talking about almost dying in Italy.
Bio: Jim Turner was an actor for many years in teevee shows and movies. He’s got an IMDB page and everything (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0877642/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1) He still does the actorizing now and then but he spends most of his time (and money) working to register young people to vote. He ran for President twice – once as Zippy the Pinhead in 1980 and then as Randee of the Redwoods in 1988. Neither of these fictional characters were elected – or received any votes.
Bio: Jim Turner was an actor for many years in teevee shows and movies. He’s got an IMDB page and everything (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0877642/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1) He still does the actorizing now and then but he spends most of his time (and money) working to register young people to vote. He ran for President twice – once as Zippy the Pinhead in 1980 and then as Randee of the Redwoods in 1988. Neither of these fictional characters were elected – or received any votes.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media. Hi, this is Jim Turner and I'm
here with Jake Cogan and his show Don't Be Alone
with Jake Cogan, and I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Don't Be this episode. Hi, welcome to Don't Be Alone
with Jake Cogan. I am so glad you're here, and
I really appreciate all the positive comments I've gotten lately
(00:35):
about the show and how excited people are about the show,
and that's makes me very, very happy. And that's going
to be ruined today by our guest, Jim Turner, who
is going to come and tell us about his life.
I actually am very interested to talk to Jim, because
Jim is a guy who does a million things and
(00:55):
does it with kind of abandoned I think he does
it with purpose. But you know, I just we're recording
this after the conversation that I had with him, and
it seems like my ability to perceive the future is
the thing that's stopping me from doing things that Jim
does because he doesn't have that ability. But you can
decide for yourself what it is that makes him raise
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all kinds of money for charity and raise all kinds
of money for great causes and spend time supporting friends
and going to plays and creating art. And he does
all these things that I do sometimes some of it,
but not nearly as much as he does. And I
feel like, I feel like I wish it was more
(01:38):
productive in that way. And so we'll be talking about
that and many other things with Jim Turner, character actor Extraordinaire.
Right after this, I just did an introduction which said
that Jim Turner was going to be here. Now here
we are. Jim Turner's here, Hey, Jimmy, Hey, Let's begin
(02:03):
at the beginning of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We first met I don't know, thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It would have been ninety two or ninety two, I
think maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, Wally while at Arski and I, my writing partner
at the time, had written a pilot called Monkey World,
and we were scanning far and wide for somebody who
could play the star of the show. The show was
about an asshole billionaire kind of guy, kind of guy
(02:38):
who lost everything and only had The only thing he
had left was a really crummy amusement park called monkey
World in Orlando, Florida. We were fashioning on Donald Trump,
kind of like a Donald Trump kind of guy. But
you know, in nineteen ninety two, nobody did shit about
Donald Trump. He was a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
He was a billionaire joke, billionaire joke.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So we wanted to and we were looking for the
right guy with the right amount of pathos who could
carry it off, much like Steve Carell carried it off
on the office. Like you didn't hate Steve Carell even
though he was not a good boss, and he was
not he was so many not good things. But you
have this warmth in this charm. But you were able
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to everyone we read in Hollywood. You were able to
sort of carry this off and give us the sense
of this entitled weirdo but who had a heart somehow
deep down there. So we were very excited. Fox was
making it and they kept telling us. We said, we
got our guy, We've got our guy. And they said, well,
can you ask Steve Martin to do it? And I say, like,
(03:42):
can you ask Albert Brooks to do it? Can you
get Robin Williams to do it? And so my answer
was no, we can't. If we if we had those people,
we wouldn't need you Fox. We could do anything we
wanted with anyone and they could set thing. I don't know.
And at some point we even got Robin Williams. You
got Robin Williams, who was a friend of yours not
(04:05):
to recommend you, oh oh, okay, to write to write
a note to Sandy Grushaw, who was running Fox at
the time, Oh my god, saying this guy is good,
he's good, he could do it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I totally forgot. I totally forgot about that. That's part
of it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
This is true, It is true. Let me remind you anyway.
Needless to say, Fox did not make did not go
ahead and make this a TV show, which is very
upsetting for me.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And it was really the because I was new to
town and I, you know, got a hold of a
lot of scripts to read just to see, oh what
could I go out for? What could I go out for? It?
And I had a very low, low level agent at
the time, both both in height and he was a
tallish okay, all right, he submitted me for something and
(04:55):
they sent the script and I read a breakdown of
monkey World. Yeah, I went, what is this? This sounds
this sounds exactly like what I do. Some weird, fucked
up guy that you sort of need to root for
and he got me a script hecause, I don't know
why you want this, but here it is. And I
(05:16):
read it and I laughed hysterically. And I had an
acting teacher, Brian Reese, that I went and worked on
scenes with, and I came over auditioned for it, and
then I called my friends Higgins Boys and Groover Sure
because it was a universal and they were working. They
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had a student like a office there, and I called
him up. What are you guys doing? Oh, come over
for lunch. So I came over and you and Wally
were there and they said what do you guys? They
were just saying, what were you doing here? I said,
auditioning for something called Monkey World, really funny pilot. I
think it went really well. And you and Wally were like, wow,
(06:01):
that sounds great. What's it about? And I was explaining
and I said, and I got a call that I'm
you know, coming back in next week for the producers.
Oh that's good. And when I left, everybody went, oh,
good luck, good luck. I came in the next week
and I walking through you guys right, and I went,
what wait, what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We we had it over on you man. Yes, you
certainly had it over on you and then they brought
me to fuck. Yes, well, you know you were great.
You were great, You were exactly right, and they made
a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You should have written a thing called Shit's Creek.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Exactly well, I did. Schitz Creek is very close. They
didn't steal. Shittz Creek did not steal. They'd be very clear.
They did not steal our idea of monkey World. However
they are, they're shockingly similar. And shitz Creek is a
very good show, and our show could have been a
very good show. Ye like that. But so anyway, we've
that's the beginning of our relationship, forged in sadness and destruction,
(06:58):
and yet here we are. Yeah, thirty two years later,
we're still friends. What's that about?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What's that about? Two losers who didn't get the thing
that we needed to get done?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Are we just continually making bigger and bigger mistakes?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That could be? That could be? Well, that's I mean
partly what my problem this week is why you're here.
My show Don't be Along with Jake Cogan is Yeah,
it's my logo, Don't be alone with ja Cogan is
about communication, city with people, talking, which I like, but
also I have usually have an issue that I feel
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like my guests could have an insight on it, and
this my issue this week is that I don't feel
like I have a desire to do things. I don't
feel like I do as much as I desire. And
I feel like you're the kind of guy who does
a ton of stuff. Like you show up at Charlie's concerts,
(07:56):
You show up at people's shows. You show up. You
just recent flew across the country to do well. I
don't even know what you were doing in Chicago when
you saw Steve, our friend Steve Rudnick. That was just a.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That was just a fun trip.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So take a fun trips. You just go. I want
to take fun trips. I don't do it. Yeah, you know,
and and uh, you know you you you've been putting
on shows for you know, forty years, like you know
you were with Ducks, Breast Ducks, Breath Mystery Theater. Yeah,
and uh and you've in Los Angeles. You put together
many many shows in including the Girly Magazine Party, which
(08:33):
is legendary and uh clown Town city limits. You put
shows together in your backyard when you want to raise
money for important causes. I like, I have to think
really hard if I'm going to buy hot dogs and
grill them. Honestly, Like, I really like, I got to
turn on the barbecue. That means I got to clean
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the barbecue. That means I got a Ah what you know,
I'm waylaid by the idea of things happening. Well, you
just seem to just forge right ahead. The way you
describe it, it sounds more productive than it is. It's
actually not very.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
How much have you raised for the good Decourse, the
Good Deed Corporate, the Texas Turnout Wing of the Good
Deed Courts? Right, this is a Texas nonpartisan voter registration thing.
We have in the Rio Grande Valley, me and a
bunch of people, and kind of my job in it
is to well, we used to put on benefits and
(09:35):
we always had to rent someplace. We had to go
to Spaceland and then rent it and then oh we
got to guarantee this. Oh they don't have chairs. Oh
we got to rent the chairs. We got to bring
them in. And I was I'm on the entertainment committee.
If there is a committee, and my wife at a
sixty fifth birthday party, and she never wants a birthday party,
(09:58):
never ever, ever, but she became a Harry Styles freak. Right,
I'm like a freak. And she said, all right, I
want a birthday party this year, and I want everybody
to come dressed like their version of Harry Styles. I
want Harry Styles music playing, I want Harry Styles videos playing,
(10:19):
and I want Harry Styles cake. And then I want
Harry Styles to show up. And I said, oh, and.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You're arranged all that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'll do what I can. And I did all of
it except for Harry. Right, And we were watching these videos.
I hung a movie screen that I bought from Dave.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Foley, right, Dave and our good friend Dave.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Dave and Chrissy at their garage sale, right, hung that,
and I was showing these videos on it, and I went, wow,
look at this. It got dark, and I was that
looks great. And it was just a little speaker, but
it sounds great. Oh my god. We could I could
do movie screens back here. And I wasn't thinking benefits.
I was just thinking, hey, get everybody in the backyard,
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have a little barbecue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Even that, get everybody in the backyard have a barque
and show a movie. I'm not. That's that's never happened
in my house. That's never gonna happen to my But
how much money have you raised for the good deals
we've raised?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I think close to five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I love that. I love that anyway, I'm a big
I'm a big proponent of that. Okay, I'm a big
proponent of you doing all that work. Okay, Now the
question is what about me? Like, why don't I why
don't I jump in?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, I've always I've always been the organizer of things.
We're playing poker tonight, we are, and I'm the one
that sends out the poker thing? Right, who wants to play? Oh?
Who can? You can't play? You just told me you
could play. I know, but I can't now Okay. Now
I go to the sub list. Once a week, I
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organize a Wednesday basketball game with people that I have
no business playing basketball with anymore, because I've lost those skills. Well,
our house in Des Moines was always the It was
I don't want to say safe house, because it wasn't
like we had friends meth addicts. Yeah, it wasn't that,
but people liked coming to my house.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But could you be a methadict and come to your house.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
We didn't really have a myth. All we really had
was weed and LSD. I think I didn't do any
LSD R. I smoked the weed.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sure, lots of kids, lots of kids your generation did. Yeah,
and that's how you became Randy of the Redwoods. I
can't do that. You can't do that character without having
smoked some weed.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right, But it wasn't really If you go back and
look at Randy, he doesn't really have uh no drugs,
a natural it's all just this is who he is.
And you assume, okay, this is some sort of acid casually,
but that's not necessarily true.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
This is this is the character that you did on
MTV for a long time and did it started with
the ducks Breath.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It started with Duck's breath, started with the show we
did that I said. They said it was a variety show.
It wasn't a Dutch breath show. But it was all
the Ducks bread guys, and we did a variety show.
And somebody said, what do you want to do? When
I said, I want to just bill me as Jim
Turner sings nine songs and I didn't have songs. I
(13:16):
didn't play the guitar. Came out with a guitar, and
I assumed because I wasn't a trained actor or trained
improud guy or any of that, I just sort of
did it. And I went out thinking, Man, once those
lights hit me, there's people laughing, I'm going to be golden.
And I went out and I could not could not
(13:41):
think of a funny song. I kind of fumbled with
the strings. I think I dropped the guitar. I went,
what the fuck? I didn't plan anything. I didn't I
get it now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
This it sucks. I get it now. You do not
have the ability to think of the future. No, and
so God, that's why you're having that's why you're agreeing
to do all these things. Yes, you don't think give
me the consequences of what it's going to take the cleaning.
You're not thinking of folding up chairs till three in
the morning, like at a big party, which is what
I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Jay, You're absolutely right. I do not think well of
the future. I don't plan. I'm better now, getting better,
but for most of my life, No, And what happened
was I end up just running off stage. Right then
we moved to San Francisco from Iowa City. That happened
in Iowa City. We moved to San Francisco. One night,
(14:34):
we're coming trying to come up with new material, and Merle,
one of the guys and group, went Hey, Jim, how
about the guy Remember the guy you did with the
guitar you sang, see the way he didn't really sing
songs anyway, And.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Said, what do you mean, do that?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Do what? I didn't do anything. Oh no, it was
really funny, and what the fuck are you talking about?
And so I did. I got an electric guitar and
I went out and I had like one joke. But
then once I started doing it, I started to understand
who Randy was and I started to have fun with it.
And it grew and grew and grew, and finally it
(15:28):
grew too big, and I had to be talked to
because I would just let it go. By Duck's breath,
I would just let it go. And we were doing
a lot of touring then because Merle and Dan were
on National Public Radio and so we could fill any college.
Any place was a college radio station, we could fill
the room. And so I was doing Randy and it
(15:51):
just I'd think of something else and extending, and it
got to like twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Twenty plus minutes. That's that's two big laughs, big lass,
that's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Finally, Billy said to me one of the guys, Jim,
can we chop a little bit out of rant?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Killing? That's killing? He said, I understand there's four other
of us, right, and when we got stuff too right, okay,
so that's good. But then they came MTV came to
a duxborth show in New York at the bottom Line
and David Felton brought a bunch of people from MTV
(16:31):
and I got a call from one of the guys, going, hey,
love this Randy character. Can he come host the twentieth
anniversary of the Summer of Love on MTV in nineteen
eighty seven? And I went there. They didn't even fly
me there. They paid me one thousand dollars. We shot
twenty two spots and a music video in two days.
(16:54):
I had to listen to a song either way. It's
fine with me that he slowed down to one quarter speed,
so it was like and when I LIPSYNCD it, I
did do it, and it took twenty minutes to get
through the song, of course, because once.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Then and then when you show it back, you're going
moving super fast.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Super fast. He said, move as much as you want,
throw the guitar at us, back and forth. Everything. It's
going to look great. And it was a It became
a you know, little hit on MTV. And then the
next year they asked me to run for president. Okay,
so I ran for president.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But so you did Ranty the Redwoods and you and
you became an MTV icon.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
In ninety four, they were going to put a stage
up at the twenty fifth anniversary of Woodstock and they said,
we want to send Randy there and I hadn't been
on the I hadn't been on MTV in four years,
and I said sure. So we went and I went
with the guy who who was the first who had
directed all the Randy stuff, John Payson, who made the
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movie Joe's Apartment. We went with Felton two and we
got onto the grounds before they opened the gates, and
we went all around the grounds. We shot stuff. We said,
mostly background footage we're going to use. And then the
gates opened and I dressed up as Randy. We went
down as they opened, the gates wouldstock and we're standing
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there waiting to greet people and we're going to interview
them and stuff like that. And the gates opened and
people started running in, and some people carrying coolers and
tents were going.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Holy shit, dude, it's Randy. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And all these people ran over to me. The first
people ran over and we're touching me and shaking my hands,
rubbing my shoulder, and I'm going, oh my god, I
come to these people. And I couldn't walk in the
crowd as Randy. It would be, it would just I
just couldn't. I got I interviewed Todd Rugren in the crowd,
and I walked five feet into the crowd and they
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wouldn't stopped screaming my name.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's how I am at a Baskin Robbins. When people
see me at a Baskin Robbins. He's here, Jay Cogan,
Oh my god, Jake Cogan, and the guy was surrounded
by people. He's back, guys back, he's back. I wonder
if he's going to get the Rocky Road. He's getting
the Rocky Road. Oh my god. Yeah, that's fantastic. You
should be uh. I mean, I know you are you
are you are proud of Randy, and I'm very proud
(19:22):
of It's great.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Remember the night that you gave your mom's eight hundred
number for her when you won the Emmy. Yes, HBO
through an Emmy party at some Beverly Hills place that
I went to, and first of all, they went in
and the show that I was on then RLST was
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never treated well by HBO. They were they didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Treated it like a second class citizen. Yes, like that,
and why do you know why.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It wasn't It wasn't hip like that Larry Sanders's hip.
It wasn't hip like Sopranos, Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Wall was buddies with Chris Albright called Chris all Breck
who kind of ran the show there and that was
his friend and they're going to make this show and
that's it. But all the young kids who wanted to
do hip things, that wasn't what they were looking for. No, yeah,
I go, but we ran.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Seven seven years, seven seasons. So anyway it we went
in and we didn't have a table, We didn't have
a table, and I walked around to because we got
there early before the Emmys were while they're still on.
And somebody said, hey, go find our table. Jim and
I went into this giant dining room. We didn't have
(20:42):
a table. Everybody else had tables. Mister show had two tables.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh my gosh, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Everybody had one table, at least two, sometimes three. We
didn't have a table. And I walked in and the
waiter came over and hey, Kirby, how you doing? Man? Right? Good?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh do we have Do we have a table? And
he goes, hey, yeah, of course you do. What are
you talking about it?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And he couldn't find one, and I think he went
over to I can't remember whose table, Sex and the
City or somebody, and they had two and he goes,
they have one.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Now, that's great.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So Hafner came in with six girls.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Sure of his girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow, what the just weird? That's just weird.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's weird. It's weird. And now the stories are out
from the playmates themselves. How weird it was? Yes, they're
you're telling it was a weird free It was as
weird as it seemed. It was that weird for us too. Yeah, yeah,
that is that is interesting. Now if you want to
know anything about me, I do. Okay, I don't know.
You didn't ask, you have not lasting. You just talked
about yourself the whole damn time. It's fine, all right,
(21:53):
it's fine. I guess you're the guest and I'm the host.
That's how it's supposed to go, right.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I guess. I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know. I don't know either. I'm just still learning.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I've never been on one.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is my first part. This is good. This is
this is why I don't want to be alone. This
is I get to sit and talk with you. They
learn some things about it. I've learned many things about
you over the years. Learned about your European trip you
almost died. I learned about a million I don't even
We don't have time to go into this, Okay, just
know for fact that you took a trip with no money,
didn't know where you're going, and you to meet to
(22:24):
meet somehow my family in Italy and you almost died. Yeah, okay,
fantastic story. We'll do it for another time. But right now,
we're we're going to go to uh what I like
to call uh viewer mail, because we're going to the next.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Viewer male or listener mail.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Now it's time for listener man.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Listener, you're correct, and by the way, your your your
theme song and all the bumpers are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I'm a big fan of Charlie.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Charlie Cogan is a very talented young man. Anyway, here's
the question for listener mail. This is very, uh, kind
of a tender subject that what is the last thing
you want to see before your your eyes close and
you pass on to the great unknown?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Oh Jesus, Yeah, what does somebody asked that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Somebody asked that, Yeah, who this guy named Maynard who
asked like ninety percent of our question Maynard.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I was listening. I heard, I heard Kevin Neiland had
a Maynard yeah thing too. I've had I have literally
had things where I think I was dying, right because
Europe low blood sugar, No though that was that was
simply sick. I was sick and it could have been
really tragic. But I never had that moment. I've had
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moments in low blood sugar, things at night, extremely extremely
extremely low blood sugar where I've said, just let it go,
just give up. Everything will be fine, Everything will be fine.
And this is all in the dream. I was going,
this is just a joke, and it's all good. Yeah,
if I go away, my wife, my son, they'll they'll survive.
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They'll go, Oh, that's too bad. Who wants his car?
And it was like a fine, Yeah, I can do this.
So maybe listening to a record, Yeah, I'm gonna put
together a mixtape. My face.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So each one of the songs if it came, if you,
if you died listening to this song, you'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Waterloo Sunset could be it could be Days by the Kinks. Also,
that's a fantastic song, which really sums up a thing
like this. Thank you for the days it's in the States.
That's sacred days you gave me.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
My friend, the witch Doctor. No, not a smile, No,
my fan, the witch Doctor. He told me what to
do as you're slowly fading away.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Come on, I have a fantastic new record. I love
AMBIOND music, love you know, love discrete music, love love
love love love that stuff. And there's an AMBIOND record
called something Winged, Dreams of the Sullen, Winged Victory of
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the Sullen. That's the name of this group. Two guys
wing victory and this beautiful, beautiful stuff, and I use
it for sleeping and I wake up in the middle
of the night hearing the most beautiful ethereal music.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You were for a while, and maybe you still are
a spokesman for diabetes, well, promoting the disease, hoping that
other people get it.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I assist them.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, all right. No.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I was on a TV show called I've been very
open about being type having type one diabetes since nineteen
seventy so that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Fifty pioneer diabetes world.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
There was a TV show called d Life that was
about diabetes type one and type two, and I was
one of the hosts of the show, and I love
doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Do you do the PATCHA.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't do a patch. I do a See that
little thing that's a little thing telling me, telling you
what my blood sugar.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yes, it's on constantly, monity.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Five minutes, okay, and then if it goes low, it
goes by. It gives me warnings, right, and I have
a When it goes below fifty five, a baby cries,
oh wow. And it doesn't just cry, it screams. It's like.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I assume it's a recording of a baby it's actually
bring a baby by, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Just a person that works, and they go, look, Jim
is low right, all right. The first time I ever
used the baby crying because I was sleeping through all
my alarms, I would just ignore them. I just wouldn't,
and I fixed it to baby crying, going, I will
attention to this, because that baby crying is very unpleasant. Right.
(27:03):
I went to the airport and my everything was in
my in the X ray machine, and my blood sugar
was really low. And I'm standing there and I'm going, Okay,
I hope they don't give me the business about anything,
because I can't really stand around. I got to get
to somewhere and get something to eat. I need something
to eat. And while my bag is in the X
(27:27):
ray machine, this baby goes crying right in the machine,
and people went kind of looked her look around, and
I turned to the woman next to me and said,
my blood sugar is low, as if that explains everything,
and maybe kind of pointed right machine like okay, dude,
(27:50):
get away right, get away, And I'm worried about the
baby in the machine.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, that makes much more sense. Well, I hope you,
I hope you survive that moment. I don't know that
you did.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I did. Okay, that's fantastic, and I put on some
ambiance music, laid down there and said, let me go,
just let me go. Tsay said, this isn't that's not
our job.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, you have to stay. Yeah that TSA wants you
to stay. Jim, thank you for being here. And I
want to thank you the listeners and viewers. Yeah, I
think that's your camera for for being here. Thank you cognation.
That's what we call ourselves, cognation. Wow, I just made
that up. Oh yeah, you have hats. No, we're trying
(28:32):
to figure out hats. Yeah, t shirts. Anyway, thanks for
being here. Please, don't you be alone. Go out and
talk to somebody, share some time with somebody in person.
It's very fun, not necessarily with Jim, but with other people.
So you go do that and we will talk to
you and see you next time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Hm
Straw Hut Media. Hi, this is Jim Turner and I'm
here with Jake Cogan and his show Don't Be Alone
with Jake Cogan, and I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Don't Be this episode. Hi, welcome to Don't Be Alone
with Jake Cogan. I am so glad you're here, and
I really appreciate all the positive comments I've gotten lately
(00:35):
about the show and how excited people are about the show,
and that's makes me very, very happy. And that's going
to be ruined today by our guest, Jim Turner, who
is going to come and tell us about his life.
I actually am very interested to talk to Jim, because
Jim is a guy who does a million things and
(00:55):
does it with kind of abandoned I think he does
it with purpose. But you know, I just we're recording
this after the conversation that I had with him, and
it seems like my ability to perceive the future is
the thing that's stopping me from doing things that Jim
does because he doesn't have that ability. But you can
decide for yourself what it is that makes him raise
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all kinds of money for charity and raise all kinds
of money for great causes and spend time supporting friends
and going to plays and creating art. And he does
all these things that I do sometimes some of it,
but not nearly as much as he does. And I
feel like, I feel like I wish it was more
(01:38):
productive in that way. And so we'll be talking about
that and many other things with Jim Turner, character actor Extraordinaire.
Right after this, I just did an introduction which said
that Jim Turner was going to be here. Now here
we are. Jim Turner's here, Hey, Jimmy, Hey, Let's begin
(02:03):
at the beginning of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We first met I don't know, thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It would have been ninety two or ninety two, I
think maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, Wally while at Arski and I, my writing partner
at the time, had written a pilot called Monkey World,
and we were scanning far and wide for somebody who
could play the star of the show. The show was
about an asshole billionaire kind of guy, kind of guy
(02:38):
who lost everything and only had The only thing he
had left was a really crummy amusement park called monkey
World in Orlando, Florida. We were fashioning on Donald Trump,
kind of like a Donald Trump kind of guy. But
you know, in nineteen ninety two, nobody did shit about
Donald Trump. He was a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
He was a billionaire joke, billionaire joke.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So we wanted to and we were looking for the
right guy with the right amount of pathos who could
carry it off, much like Steve Carell carried it off
on the office. Like you didn't hate Steve Carell even
though he was not a good boss, and he was
not he was so many not good things. But you
have this warmth in this charm. But you were able
(03:20):
to everyone we read in Hollywood. You were able to
sort of carry this off and give us the sense
of this entitled weirdo but who had a heart somehow
deep down there. So we were very excited. Fox was
making it and they kept telling us. We said, we
got our guy, We've got our guy. And they said, well,
can you ask Steve Martin to do it? And I say, like,
(03:42):
can you ask Albert Brooks to do it? Can you
get Robin Williams to do it? And so my answer
was no, we can't. If we if we had those people,
we wouldn't need you Fox. We could do anything we
wanted with anyone and they could set thing. I don't know.
And at some point we even got Robin Williams. You
got Robin Williams, who was a friend of yours not
(04:05):
to recommend you, oh oh, okay, to write to write
a note to Sandy Grushaw, who was running Fox at
the time, Oh my god, saying this guy is good,
he's good, he could do it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I totally forgot. I totally forgot about that. That's part
of it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
This is true, It is true. Let me remind you anyway.
Needless to say, Fox did not make did not go
ahead and make this a TV show, which is very
upsetting for me.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And it was really the because I was new to
town and I, you know, got a hold of a
lot of scripts to read just to see, oh what
could I go out for? What could I go out for? It?
And I had a very low, low level agent at
the time, both both in height and he was a
tallish okay, all right, he submitted me for something and
(04:55):
they sent the script and I read a breakdown of
monkey World. Yeah, I went, what is this? This sounds
this sounds exactly like what I do. Some weird, fucked
up guy that you sort of need to root for
and he got me a script hecause, I don't know
why you want this, but here it is. And I
(05:16):
read it and I laughed hysterically. And I had an
acting teacher, Brian Reese, that I went and worked on
scenes with, and I came over auditioned for it, and
then I called my friends Higgins Boys and Groover Sure
because it was a universal and they were working. They
(05:40):
had a student like a office there, and I called
him up. What are you guys doing? Oh, come over
for lunch. So I came over and you and Wally
were there and they said what do you guys? They
were just saying, what were you doing here? I said,
auditioning for something called Monkey World, really funny pilot. I
think it went really well. And you and Wally were like, wow,
(06:01):
that sounds great. What's it about? And I was explaining
and I said, and I got a call that I'm
you know, coming back in next week for the producers.
Oh that's good. And when I left, everybody went, oh,
good luck, good luck. I came in the next week
and I walking through you guys right, and I went,
what wait, what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We we had it over on you man. Yes, you
certainly had it over on you and then they brought
me to fuck. Yes, well, you know you were great.
You were great, You were exactly right, and they made
a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You should have written a thing called Shit's Creek.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Exactly well, I did. Schitz Creek is very close. They
didn't steal. Shittz Creek did not steal. They'd be very clear.
They did not steal our idea of monkey World. However
they are, they're shockingly similar. And shitz Creek is a
very good show, and our show could have been a
very good show. Ye like that. But so anyway, we've
that's the beginning of our relationship, forged in sadness and destruction,
(06:58):
and yet here we are. Yeah, thirty two years later,
we're still friends. What's that about?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What's that about? Two losers who didn't get the thing
that we needed to get done?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Are we just continually making bigger and bigger mistakes?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That could be? That could be? Well, that's I mean
partly what my problem this week is why you're here.
My show Don't be Along with Jake Cogan is Yeah,
it's my logo, Don't be alone with ja Cogan is
about communication, city with people, talking, which I like, but
also I have usually have an issue that I feel
(07:34):
like my guests could have an insight on it, and
this my issue this week is that I don't feel
like I have a desire to do things. I don't
feel like I do as much as I desire. And
I feel like you're the kind of guy who does
a ton of stuff. Like you show up at Charlie's concerts,
(07:56):
You show up at people's shows. You show up. You
just recent flew across the country to do well. I
don't even know what you were doing in Chicago when
you saw Steve, our friend Steve Rudnick. That was just a.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That was just a fun trip.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So take a fun trips. You just go. I want
to take fun trips. I don't do it. Yeah, you know,
and and uh, you know you you you've been putting
on shows for you know, forty years, like you know
you were with Ducks, Breast Ducks, Breath Mystery Theater. Yeah,
and uh and you've in Los Angeles. You put together
many many shows in including the Girly Magazine Party, which
(08:33):
is legendary and uh clown Town city limits. You put
shows together in your backyard when you want to raise
money for important causes. I like, I have to think
really hard if I'm going to buy hot dogs and
grill them. Honestly, Like, I really like, I got to
turn on the barbecue. That means I got to clean
(08:55):
the barbecue. That means I got a Ah what you know,
I'm waylaid by the idea of things happening. Well, you
just seem to just forge right ahead. The way you
describe it, it sounds more productive than it is. It's
actually not very.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
How much have you raised for the good Decourse, the
Good Deed Corporate, the Texas Turnout Wing of the Good
Deed Courts? Right, this is a Texas nonpartisan voter registration thing.
We have in the Rio Grande Valley, me and a
bunch of people, and kind of my job in it
is to well, we used to put on benefits and
(09:35):
we always had to rent someplace. We had to go
to Spaceland and then rent it and then oh we
got to guarantee this. Oh they don't have chairs. Oh
we got to rent the chairs. We got to bring
them in. And I was I'm on the entertainment committee.
If there is a committee, and my wife at a
sixty fifth birthday party, and she never wants a birthday party,
(09:58):
never ever, ever, but she became a Harry Styles freak. Right,
I'm like a freak. And she said, all right, I
want a birthday party this year, and I want everybody
to come dressed like their version of Harry Styles. I
want Harry Styles music playing, I want Harry Styles videos playing,
(10:19):
and I want Harry Styles cake. And then I want
Harry Styles to show up. And I said, oh, and.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You're arranged all that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'll do what I can. And I did all of
it except for Harry. Right, And we were watching these videos.
I hung a movie screen that I bought from Dave.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Foley, right, Dave and our good friend Dave.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Dave and Chrissy at their garage sale, right, hung that,
and I was showing these videos on it, and I went, wow,
look at this. It got dark, and I was that
looks great. And it was just a little speaker, but
it sounds great. Oh my god. We could I could
do movie screens back here. And I wasn't thinking benefits.
I was just thinking, hey, get everybody in the backyard,
(10:56):
have a little barbecue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Even that, get everybody in the backyard have a barque
and show a movie. I'm not. That's that's never happened
in my house. That's never gonna happen to my But
how much money have you raised for the good deals
we've raised?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I think close to five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I love that. I love that anyway, I'm a big
I'm a big proponent of that. Okay, I'm a big
proponent of you doing all that work. Okay, Now the
question is what about me? Like, why don't I why
don't I jump in?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well, I've always I've always been the organizer of things.
We're playing poker tonight, we are, and I'm the one
that sends out the poker thing? Right, who wants to play? Oh?
Who can? You can't play? You just told me you
could play. I know, but I can't now Okay. Now
I go to the sub list. Once a week, I
(11:45):
organize a Wednesday basketball game with people that I have
no business playing basketball with anymore, because I've lost those skills. Well,
our house in Des Moines was always the It was
I don't want to say safe house, because it wasn't
like we had friends meth addicts. Yeah, it wasn't that,
but people liked coming to my house.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But could you be a methadict and come to your house.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
We didn't really have a myth. All we really had
was weed and LSD. I think I didn't do any
LSD R. I smoked the weed.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sure, lots of kids, lots of kids your generation did. Yeah,
and that's how you became Randy of the Redwoods. I
can't do that. You can't do that character without having
smoked some weed.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right, But it wasn't really If you go back and
look at Randy, he doesn't really have uh no drugs,
a natural it's all just this is who he is.
And you assume, okay, this is some sort of acid casually,
but that's not necessarily true.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
This is this is the character that you did on
MTV for a long time and did it started with
the ducks Breath.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It started with Duck's breath, started with the show we
did that I said. They said it was a variety show.
It wasn't a Dutch breath show. But it was all
the Ducks bread guys, and we did a variety show.
And somebody said, what do you want to do? When
I said, I want to just bill me as Jim
Turner sings nine songs and I didn't have songs. I
(13:16):
didn't play the guitar. Came out with a guitar, and
I assumed because I wasn't a trained actor or trained
improud guy or any of that, I just sort of
did it. And I went out thinking, Man, once those
lights hit me, there's people laughing, I'm going to be golden.
And I went out and I could not could not
(13:41):
think of a funny song. I kind of fumbled with
the strings. I think I dropped the guitar. I went,
what the fuck? I didn't plan anything. I didn't I
get it now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
This it sucks. I get it now. You do not
have the ability to think of the future. No, and
so God, that's why you're having that's why you're agreeing
to do all these things. Yes, you don't think give
me the consequences of what it's going to take the cleaning.
You're not thinking of folding up chairs till three in
the morning, like at a big party, which is what
I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Jay, You're absolutely right. I do not think well of
the future. I don't plan. I'm better now, getting better,
but for most of my life, No, And what happened
was I end up just running off stage. Right then
we moved to San Francisco from Iowa City. That happened
in Iowa City. We moved to San Francisco. One night,
(14:34):
we're coming trying to come up with new material, and Merle,
one of the guys and group, went Hey, Jim, how
about the guy Remember the guy you did with the
guitar you sang, see the way he didn't really sing
songs anyway, And.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Said, what do you mean, do that?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Do what? I didn't do anything. Oh no, it was
really funny, and what the fuck are you talking about?
And so I did. I got an electric guitar and
I went out and I had like one joke. But
then once I started doing it, I started to understand
who Randy was and I started to have fun with it.
And it grew and grew and grew, and finally it
(15:28):
grew too big, and I had to be talked to
because I would just let it go. By Duck's breath,
I would just let it go. And we were doing
a lot of touring then because Merle and Dan were
on National Public Radio and so we could fill any college.
Any place was a college radio station, we could fill
the room. And so I was doing Randy and it
(15:51):
just I'd think of something else and extending, and it
got to like twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Twenty plus minutes. That's that's two big laughs, big lass,
that's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Finally, Billy said to me one of the guys, Jim,
can we chop a little bit out of rant?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Killing? That's killing? He said, I understand there's four other
of us, right, and when we got stuff too right, okay,
so that's good. But then they came MTV came to
a duxborth show in New York at the bottom Line
and David Felton brought a bunch of people from MTV
(16:31):
and I got a call from one of the guys, going, hey,
love this Randy character. Can he come host the twentieth
anniversary of the Summer of Love on MTV in nineteen
eighty seven? And I went there. They didn't even fly
me there. They paid me one thousand dollars. We shot
twenty two spots and a music video in two days.
(16:54):
I had to listen to a song either way. It's
fine with me that he slowed down to one quarter speed,
so it was like and when I LIPSYNCD it, I
did do it, and it took twenty minutes to get
through the song, of course, because once.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Then and then when you show it back, you're going
moving super fast.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Super fast. He said, move as much as you want,
throw the guitar at us, back and forth. Everything. It's
going to look great. And it was a It became
a you know, little hit on MTV. And then the
next year they asked me to run for president. Okay,
so I ran for president.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But so you did Ranty the Redwoods and you and
you became an MTV icon.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
In ninety four, they were going to put a stage
up at the twenty fifth anniversary of Woodstock and they said,
we want to send Randy there and I hadn't been
on the I hadn't been on MTV in four years,
and I said sure. So we went and I went
with the guy who who was the first who had
directed all the Randy stuff, John Payson, who made the
(18:00):
movie Joe's Apartment. We went with Felton two and we
got onto the grounds before they opened the gates, and
we went all around the grounds. We shot stuff. We said,
mostly background footage we're going to use. And then the
gates opened and I dressed up as Randy. We went
down as they opened, the gates wouldstock and we're standing
(18:23):
there waiting to greet people and we're going to interview
them and stuff like that. And the gates opened and
people started running in, and some people carrying coolers and
tents were going.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Holy shit, dude, it's Randy. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And all these people ran over to me. The first
people ran over and we're touching me and shaking my hands,
rubbing my shoulder, and I'm going, oh my god, I
come to these people. And I couldn't walk in the
crowd as Randy. It would be, it would just I
just couldn't. I got I interviewed Todd Rugren in the crowd,
and I walked five feet into the crowd and they
(18:59):
wouldn't stopped screaming my name.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's how I am at a Baskin Robbins. When people
see me at a Baskin Robbins. He's here, Jay Cogan,
Oh my god, Jake Cogan, and the guy was surrounded
by people. He's back, guys back, he's back. I wonder
if he's going to get the Rocky Road. He's getting
the Rocky Road. Oh my god. Yeah, that's fantastic. You
should be uh. I mean, I know you are you
are you are proud of Randy, and I'm very proud
(19:22):
of It's great.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Remember the night that you gave your mom's eight hundred
number for her when you won the Emmy. Yes, HBO
through an Emmy party at some Beverly Hills place that
I went to, and first of all, they went in
and the show that I was on then RLST was
(19:45):
never treated well by HBO. They were they didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Treated it like a second class citizen. Yes, like that,
and why do you know why.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It wasn't It wasn't hip like that Larry Sanders's hip.
It wasn't hip like Sopranos, Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Wall was buddies with Chris Albright called Chris all Breck
who kind of ran the show there and that was
his friend and they're going to make this show and
that's it. But all the young kids who wanted to
do hip things, that wasn't what they were looking for. No, yeah,
I go, but we ran.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Seven seven years, seven seasons. So anyway it we went
in and we didn't have a table, We didn't have
a table, and I walked around to because we got
there early before the Emmys were while they're still on.
And somebody said, hey, go find our table. Jim and
I went into this giant dining room. We didn't have
(20:42):
a table. Everybody else had tables. Mister show had two tables.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh my gosh, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Everybody had one table, at least two, sometimes three. We
didn't have a table. And I walked in and the
waiter came over and hey, Kirby, how you doing? Man? Right? Good?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh do we have Do we have a table? And
he goes, hey, yeah, of course you do. What are
you talking about it?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And he couldn't find one, and I think he went
over to I can't remember whose table, Sex and the
City or somebody, and they had two and he goes,
they have one.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Now, that's great.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So Hafner came in with six girls.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Sure of his girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow, what the just weird? That's just weird.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's weird. It's weird. And now the stories are out
from the playmates themselves. How weird it was? Yes, they're
you're telling it was a weird free It was as
weird as it seemed. It was that weird for us too. Yeah, yeah,
that is that is interesting. Now if you want to
know anything about me, I do. Okay, I don't know.
You didn't ask, you have not lasting. You just talked
about yourself the whole damn time. It's fine, all right,
(21:53):
it's fine. I guess you're the guest and I'm the host.
That's how it's supposed to go, right.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I guess. I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know. I don't know either. I'm just still learning.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I've never been on one.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is my first part. This is good. This is
this is why I don't want to be alone. This
is I get to sit and talk with you. They
learn some things about it. I've learned many things about
you over the years. Learned about your European trip you
almost died. I learned about a million I don't even
We don't have time to go into this, Okay, just
know for fact that you took a trip with no money,
didn't know where you're going, and you to meet to
(22:24):
meet somehow my family in Italy and you almost died. Yeah, okay,
fantastic story. We'll do it for another time. But right now,
we're we're going to go to uh what I like
to call uh viewer mail, because we're going to the next.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Viewer male or listener mail.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Now it's time for listener man.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Listener, you're correct, and by the way, your your your
theme song and all the bumpers are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I'm a big fan of Charlie.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Charlie Cogan is a very talented young man. Anyway, here's
the question for listener mail. This is very, uh, kind
of a tender subject that what is the last thing
you want to see before your your eyes close and
you pass on to the great unknown?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Oh Jesus, Yeah, what does somebody asked that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Somebody asked that, Yeah, who this guy named Maynard who
asked like ninety percent of our question Maynard.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I was listening. I heard, I heard Kevin Neiland had
a Maynard yeah thing too. I've had I have literally
had things where I think I was dying, right because
Europe low blood sugar, No though that was that was
simply sick. I was sick and it could have been
really tragic. But I never had that moment. I've had
(23:46):
moments in low blood sugar, things at night, extremely extremely
extremely low blood sugar where I've said, just let it go,
just give up. Everything will be fine, Everything will be fine.
And this is all in the dream. I was going,
this is just a joke, and it's all good. Yeah,
if I go away, my wife, my son, they'll they'll survive.
(24:08):
They'll go, Oh, that's too bad. Who wants his car?
And it was like a fine, Yeah, I can do this.
So maybe listening to a record, Yeah, I'm gonna put
together a mixtape. My face.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So each one of the songs if it came, if you,
if you died listening to this song, you'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Waterloo Sunset could be it could be Days by the Kinks. Also,
that's a fantastic song, which really sums up a thing
like this. Thank you for the days it's in the States.
That's sacred days you gave me.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
My friend, the witch Doctor. No, not a smile, No,
my fan, the witch Doctor. He told me what to
do as you're slowly fading away.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Come on, I have a fantastic new record. I love
AMBIOND music, love you know, love discrete music, love love
love love love that stuff. And there's an AMBIOND record
called something Winged, Dreams of the Sullen, Winged Victory of
(25:20):
the Sullen. That's the name of this group. Two guys
wing victory and this beautiful, beautiful stuff, and I use
it for sleeping and I wake up in the middle
of the night hearing the most beautiful ethereal music.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You were for a while, and maybe you still are
a spokesman for diabetes, well, promoting the disease, hoping that
other people get it.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I assist them.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, all right. No.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I was on a TV show called I've been very
open about being type having type one diabetes since nineteen
seventy so that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Fifty pioneer diabetes world.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
There was a TV show called d Life that was
about diabetes type one and type two, and I was
one of the hosts of the show, and I love
doing it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Do you do the PATCHA.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't do a patch. I do a See that
little thing that's a little thing telling me, telling you
what my blood sugar.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yes, it's on constantly, monity.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Five minutes, okay, and then if it goes low, it
goes by. It gives me warnings, right, and I have
a When it goes below fifty five, a baby cries,
oh wow. And it doesn't just cry, it screams. It's like.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I assume it's a recording of a baby it's actually
bring a baby by, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Just a person that works, and they go, look, Jim
is low right, all right. The first time I ever
used the baby crying because I was sleeping through all
my alarms, I would just ignore them. I just wouldn't,
and I fixed it to baby crying, going, I will
attention to this, because that baby crying is very unpleasant. Right.
(27:03):
I went to the airport and my everything was in
my in the X ray machine, and my blood sugar
was really low. And I'm standing there and I'm going, Okay,
I hope they don't give me the business about anything,
because I can't really stand around. I got to get
to somewhere and get something to eat. I need something
to eat. And while my bag is in the X
(27:27):
ray machine, this baby goes crying right in the machine,
and people went kind of looked her look around, and
I turned to the woman next to me and said,
my blood sugar is low, as if that explains everything,
and maybe kind of pointed right machine like okay, dude,
(27:50):
get away right, get away, And I'm worried about the
baby in the machine.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, that makes much more sense. Well, I hope you,
I hope you survive that moment. I don't know that
you did.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I did. Okay, that's fantastic, and I put on some
ambiance music, laid down there and said, let me go,
just let me go. Tsay said, this isn't that's not
our job.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, you have to stay. Yeah that TSA wants you
to stay. Jim, thank you for being here. And I
want to thank you the listeners and viewers. Yeah, I
think that's your camera for for being here. Thank you cognation.
That's what we call ourselves, cognation. Wow, I just made
that up. Oh yeah, you have hats. No, we're trying
(28:32):
to figure out hats. Yeah, t shirts. Anyway, thanks for
being here. Please, don't you be alone. Go out and
talk to somebody, share some time with somebody in person.
It's very fun, not necessarily with Jim, but with other people.
So you go do that and we will talk to
you and see you next time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Hm
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