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May 16, 2025 38 mins

Is benchmarking your business by the "industry average" holding you back? 

In this episode of Don't Do That, Kelly Waltrich sits down with Jamie Hopkins, Chief Wealth Officer at WSFS Bank, to discuss leadership, talent development, and why average benchmarks might be limiting your growth potential. Jamie shares his experience transitioning from frequent travel to a more balanced life, his work with the FinServ Foundation helping young professionals enter the financial industry, and why he believes comparing yourself to averages is a recipe for mediocrity. 

Throughout their conversation, Kelly and Jamie explore the changing landscape of advisor talent, the return of sales training in financial services, and how to build a team passionate about “running through walls” for your business.

Kelly and Jamie cover:

01:28 Introduction to WSFS and Jamie's role as Chief Wealth Officer 
03:11 How a question from Jamie's son changed his career trajectory 
04:01 Kelly's similar "wake-up call" about work-life balance 
05:18 The FinServ Foundation's mission to help new professionals succeed 
06:04 The troubling statistic: 80% of advisors drop out of the industry by year five 
09:07 Why "Eat What You Kill" business models create burnout 
10:20 The missing piece in financial education: sales training 
10:50 Why advisors struggle to convert digital leads 
12:10 Jamie's social media signature style: using handwritten cards in videos 
14:00 WSFS's "wealth as a service" expansion plans |
20:54 Jamie's "Don't Do That": Stop comparing yourself to averages 
24:56 Why average benchmarks don't work for individual businesses 
26:23 Rallying your team around being the best 
29:57 Finding team members who truly buy into your vision 
33:37 Navigating leadership in a post-COVID world 
34:35 The importance of adaptability in modern teams 
36:13 Finding people willing to "run through walls" for your business


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About Our Guest 

Jamie P. Hopkins has extensive wealth management experience, bringing innovative thinking, transformative leadership, and a strong reputation for fostering Client relationships. He oversees th


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