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November 1, 2023 69 mins

Today we’re covering episode 1.18, “The Badass Seed”, and 1.19, “A Person of Interest”! We talk about nature vs. nurture, Melissa Hastings’ motivations, fake abortions in media, how to spot an extra, terrazzo, and, as usual, how much we love Hanna and Caleb.

Content notes: we don’t warn for things that happen in PLL, but from 6:15 to 14:04 we talk about the plot of The Bad Seed, which has murder (including of children), suicide, serial killers, and a cruel reference to capital punishment by electric chair.

Episode Transcript: Read it on Buzzsprout!

Chickpea Recipe: Mediterranean Chickpea Salad, except use green onions instead of red

Fashion Analysis: Our best and worst outfits!

Deepa’s Literary Analysis: 

  • Here are wikipedia entries for The Bad Seed novel by William March and play by Maxwell Anderson, and a one-act version 
  • According to the PLL wiki, the book Spencer reads in bed is Bloody Tantrums: Child Mysteries, a fake book by Francesca Rollins, the writer of the episode

Things We Referenced Sort of Related to PLL

  • Ask Me Another, a radio puzzle game show hosted by Ophira Eisenberg and Jonathan Coulton, which we both loved until it ended in 2021. They mentioned our favorite PLL episode when Adam Lambert was a guest on their 2018 Christmas show!
  • PLL is maybe in the Riverdale universe now because of Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin?

Things We Referenced Completely Unrelated to PLL

  • One of our fans watched My Fake Boyfriend recommends it!
  • There’s a rat epidemic across America
  • A New York Christmas Wedding's weird not-abortion storyline
  • Friday Night Lights, with Tim Riggins making memories and Deepa learning what a booster club is
  • Crazy Stupid Love and how Byron and Ezra’s dynamic is like Steve Carrell and Ryan Gosling’s (ew)
  • Motel Makeover, the perfect hate-watch

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