DLUTI 178 - ChainmailChasers

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Don't look under the internet.
Raviding, raviding um, asalways I'm actually.
I don't think I've ever donethis in the past hundred and
like 80 episodes wrong it feels,real wrong.
But if we want to go, ahead andintroduce, as always, I'm
actually.
I don't think I've ever donethis in the past 180 episodes.
It feels wrong, it feels realwrong, but if we want to go
ahead and introduce ourselves, Iam Jason Hello.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Welcome to Jason.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
This guy next to me is Mike, he doesn't know how to
talk right now, and that's okay,we'll still admonish him for it
.
We have the glowing Douglas.
Hello, I don't know why I toldyou you're glowing, but here we
are, I'm preggers, so that'sthat.
Glow, um.
And then, as always, we havematt as well.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
say hello man, hi, hello, or whatever I want to say
wow, okay, thank you for justimmediately talking, as soon as
I was supposed to I'm so sorryI'm falling into Mike's role
very well, god damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
That was my long con.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm going to let you take this back over because I
think we have some other thingsto do.
That's fine.
Like Jason said, hello hi.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
We have a little like Jason said hello hi, we have a
little bit of diluty.
We have one person I want toshout out today, and one person
only, and it's Mustard.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's what, oh yeah.
Yeah that didn't fucking comeacross at all.
I didn't hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Mustard.
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, because that's not the email that I got.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
We have cummustard69 that we want to shout out.
There it is so.
Thank you, cummustard.
Perfect timing.
You know what they say whenyou're coming, it's gotta be
mustard.
Somebody gotta do it.
They got their foot on the gasbecause somebody gotta do it.
When?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
you must hard, you must when you must hard,
nothing's easy Gotta do it.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's better to come to the mustard.
You must what do, you must hard.
Nothing easy, that's really it.
We only had the one name.
We had the one name, we hadfriggin come mustard.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
They subscribed and they left a donation Hell yeah,
I'll record that later.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
What do you guys think in the game of name, or
not?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
considering I was fucking out of it when I saw it,
you lost my shit, I have anidea what's this?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
on a scale of 1 to 10 .
Is the name?
Does the name have common in it?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
10 out of 10, they, they get it then I mean no, I
don't you know.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, but that's also like.
That'd be like saying if a guynamed Frank is full of hot dogs
does it have to be the word what?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I think this is actually my favorite opening.
I process what you said.
I think this is my least leastfavorite opening.
Before I process what you said,I think this is my least
favorite opening out ofeverything we've done.
This is up there.
It's not a good one.
We've had worse.
We've had better.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Does it have to be the word or does it Dude?
The letters just need to bethere, like could it be.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like.
Does his name have to bedripping with like every time
somebody says it like.
Like does his name have to bedripping with like every time
somebody says it?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
like cum happens is the name whatever that means
that's the end of housekeeping.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Thank, you cum mustard, and no, we're not gonna
do.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Welcome to nightville , sorry no, we're not gonna do
no.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'm so sorry there's probably will never, ever happen
we would literally just turninto the episode breakdown
podcast.
For, welcome to nightville.
That's what we do witheverything already.
Yeah, we would literally justturn into the episode breakdown
podcast for Welcome to NightVale.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
That's what we do with everything already.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, but anyway, just boys don't depress me, did
you?

Speaker 4 (04:10):
guys see that weird email we got God damn it Earlier
today.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I honestly haven't checked the email in months.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
It was strange.
No, don't, don't, it was likeit was in there.
It was like, if you don't jackoff to this and send it to five
friends, then we're going tosend them.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
The email or the result.
Oh, I thought they wanted us tojack off together.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh, I didn't catch that yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know it's, it's, it's things like I thought it's
a jack off five friends.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird
Chain emails like that.
They just want to chase downthe rabbit hole and figure out
who sent that to us and why.
And also it's kind of whatwe're talking about today,
because today we're talkingabout a little thing called the

(05:00):
chain mail chasers Woo Woo, good, you got it.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
People ask for it.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So if we do a requests now, see I love that
every week we just fuckingwriggle our way out of any
responsibility.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I love the dumb shit we say I love.
For the last two or threeepisodes it was New Year, New
Matt, and right when I announcedwe're doing Chainmail Chasers,
he's like yeah, this is yourfucking fault, asshole it's
gonna be hilarious if he comesback later and is like this was
the best thing I've ever watched.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, surprise stay tuned to find out yeah, let's I,
I.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
So if you go to YouTube, this is called
chainmail chasers on YouTube,and I think this it's a nice
short, sweet little thing.
It's on the surface.
On the surface, yeah, and Ithoroughly enjoyed it, but I
think we should keep talkingabout it till the end and start
from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yes, we should keep talking about the topic of the
episode to the end of theepisode.
To the end of the episode.
Yes, and we should start aboutthe topic of the episode to the
end of the episode, to the endof the episode.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes, and we should start with the beginning of the
topic, at the beginning of theepisode, exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Are you sure?
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Where's the best place to begin, if not the
beginning, you know oh my God.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
So remember how we said last week or the other week
was like a terrible, terribleintro, found the worst one.
How have we digressed?
I don't know, doug, why don'tyou get us back into?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
what we're fucking trying to do.
I can't even think straight.
I have like 400 cop carsdriving past my house right now
and my cats are fighting throughthe door.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Should we just start?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
this episode over.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
No, no, we're not doing it again oh, I just my
brain do it live big chuck hotcheese 16 melted butter oh,
jesus christ got them all.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
yes, let's, let's start from the beginning, shall
we?
Let's do it.
Then do it, doug.
All right, so Do it.
It's.
What do I say about this?
Basically, you go into thiswhole series pretty much
assuming that you're watchingalmost someone similar to what

(07:19):
we do.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, a better version of what we do.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
All right, okay, do we talk about a better version
of all right okay?
Um, so, as you can see rightnow, uh, video one is called
slender man creepy pasta origins.
It's their first video in theseries.
They explain that they're goingto cover classic creep, uh,
creep, wow, creepy pastas, andit's going to be done in like a

(07:44):
movie maker Format.
You know, exciting, excitingstuff you get all that right.
In the front screen, so firstin the series.
Slendymans, yeah, they tell youexactly what you're Going to get
and you get it and that's great.
But yeah, they pretty much goOver Slenderman.
They talk about like where itcame from, who made them all

(08:06):
this stuff, and, uh, they kindof look like they did some of
their own research.
They go over some of the imagesand they kind of show you in
photoshop how they were done andthis and that, um, and it's
pretty, pretty straight to thepoint, pretty short, um, and
that's really all you get in thevideo um, just kind of a
breakdown of some of the imagesand its origins.
So, yeah, prettyself-explanatory.

(08:30):
The second video that we get isactually called Jeff the Killer
Creepypasta image origins.
A little more specific to theimage itself of Jeff the Killer.
Now, same format as last time.
They're doing the movie makerformat, but we get a quick
little take on the origin andtheory surrounding how the image

(08:52):
came to be and the story behindit.
They go into a lot of theconcerns of the claims where the
image came from and thepossibility of it being older
than where it originally saysit's from and, uh, who the
person that came forward andsaid you know, this is my image.

(09:13):
They kind of had a uh, a bit oflike doubts on that and that
that's pretty much what you getin this uh video and and these
first few videos are going to bea little more uh, cut and dry,
if you haven't noticed.
Wow, I know this is riveting.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Riveting stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So then we get into video three, called Smile Dog,
creepypasta Image Origins, whichall of you guys know who
fucking Smile Dog is.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Hey, we did an episode on that we did, we did.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yes, we've done pretty much.
Most of these Was that when Iwas gone.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
smile dog is so hey, we did an episode on that did,
we did and just we did, we didand, yes, we've done pretty much
most.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Of you was that when I was gone.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, that may have been oh, that was when mike was
gone, that's right.
Yes, oh yeah, that's when wewere still recording.
I was on maternity leave.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You were on maternity leave, you were shitting out a
baby.
How'd that feel hurt anyways?
Um, so video three is calledsmile dog creepy pasta image
origins and you guessed it moviemaker format about smile dog.
Uh.
So the user, uh, whoever ismaking these videos, uh, does a

(10:19):
really good job of breaking downwhere the images used and like
how they were found.
So, like, uh, they go into likethe original image and then
they kind of overlay it to the,uh, the smile dog image and then
they, they just like go reallyin depth into what images were
used and how they, like you know, came together to make the

(10:41):
ending image.
Now, not not all of them areconfirmed, but some are very,
very close and it's hard to belike, all right, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, so they do this thing called research?
Yeah, they do, and then theyvisualize their findings.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And they make it make sense and they tell you the
information instead of In aconcise and digestible way.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, those of you that are subscribed, this is
your first time hearing aboutthat, isn't?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
You wouldn't know what that means very confusing
topic for you guys, but it'sfine, you'll be okay, I promise.
So this is.
This is actually where we learnabout a website called
paranormal prick headscom.
Now, the significance of thissite is that, essentially, what

(11:36):
they did was they were.
When they were doing theirresearch, they found the image
of smile dog, linked back allthe way to this website, which
dates like 2003 or 2000, like2008 or something like that and
that predates the uh, the originof the creepypasta.

(12:00):
Yeah, so that was, like you know, an interesting find,
interesting find, and they'relike whoa, like I can't believe.
Well, they write it in text,but they're like I am absolutely
flabbergasted.
Why are we talking about thismore?
And essentially just goes on tobe like you know, this is, this
is some crazy stuff.

(12:20):
And they, they kind of aredoing exactly what we're doing,
some crazy stuff.
And they, they kind of aredoing exactly what we're doing,
but they're showing the websiteand clicking on the link and
kind of going over some of thewe do that smile kind of stuff.
sometimes, exactly we we'relearning, um, but that's video
three.
Um, video four is actuallycalled smile dog origins update.
So after their last video cameout, um, this video starts with

(12:46):
him, with them saying uh,they're getting a ton of emails
about smile dog, a bunch oftrolls, a bunch of spam, and
then someone who they assumedwas a real person and that
they'll talk about later.
Um, most of the emails were thesmile dog chain letter email,
um, with the actual legit imageattached, Um, but then some of

(13:08):
the images and some of theemails were very like a variance
of the image and then, um, likenew edits and whatnot.
Yeah, and what ends up happeningis, if you clicked on the
images, the link to the imagewas uh, titled as uh, uh
something.
Image was uh titled as uh, uh,something awful forum, uh, URL.
So they went there and theystarted reading the forum post

(13:32):
and this, actually, I will saythe video is not long, but this
part takes for goddamn ever,because, uh, I, I, I don't know,
but there's a moment when ourour protagonist, just like it's
like the goddamn cars outside,like you did with the cops, yeah
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's real, it's starting to happen.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, I like how the captions on the videos are like
a car drives by Grace's house.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm so fucking angry that I pulled the goddamn rookie
mistake of watching everythingthat I watched without the
fucking subtitles.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I had to try and figure out what certain
sentences were so mad.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Anyway, go ahead.
I turn closed captioning on oneverything if I can, immediately
like no matter what, butregardless.
Yeah, so we get a video of themusing the wayback machine to
look at this forum, and theymentioned that since the thread.
You know it must be realbecause it's been archived.

(14:34):
Um, but someone is spamming, asyou can see, the smile dog
image just over and over andover and over and over again, um
, but at the very end, uh, is aslightly different one than
we've seen before.
Um, and they end up mentioningbigger too.
They yeah a little bigger, alittle bit a little different, a

(14:55):
little spooky, a little freakylooks like he had just been
flayed yeah, pretty muchyeahicky.
So yeah, they mentioned thatthey're going to keep in touch
with the person that the otheremailer, and that if the spammer
wants to reveal themselves,they can reveal yourself of the

(15:18):
smile dog.
So that's what you get in video4 and I always pass it over to
you.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I thought that was a little silly when she's like if
you do, if you ever want toreveal yourself, we can talk
more, and it's like I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Humans don't talk like that we actually don't
learn the main antagonist's nameyet for a while it's great,
because we've already said it.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
We can say I don't think it matters, I want to
reveal myself.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
People don't ask it was.
We've already said it.
We can say I don't think itmatters.
Yeah, it doesn't matter, I wantto reveal myself.
People don't ask me to talk tothem more.
They say go away, I'm callingthe police.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
This is Home Depot.
Put on some pants, yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
And it's safe to say, like this whole time we were
following this grace figure tolike.
The first video is like hernarrating everything the screen
sharing is like her narrating,so this is definitely seems like
our pro tag yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And, like Doug said, we don't really find out her
name for a while, but for thesake of expediency and shit
making sense, it's Grace.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's Grace.
Who's that girl?
The next video is where I comeinto play.
Just a quiet Debra.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Just a quiet Deborah, just out in the distance, miles
away, ray Romano is wanderingaround in your yard.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's outside my house , deborah, is it an FTP?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Where are you?
That's a creepy pasta.
I would like to see Ray Romanois a cryptid SCP-089 Romano.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Raymond Rayford Romano.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Raymond Rayford.
So the next three videos I'mgoing to be covering is Smile
Dog Origins Questions, the RakeCreepypasta Origins and Smile
Dog Oranges Frustration.
Smile Dog Oranges huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I may have heard it too.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
The rest of those had something else to do with the
orange thing Smile Dog Mandarins.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Cuties.
Yeah, they're just cuties, so Ibring them all up at the same
time because this is when we geta little bit of more of the
plot, but there's also not a lotgoing on with these.
There's two very like longervideos, one's 10 minutes, the
other's 14.
You can crunch this shit downlike two minutes, three minutes
each, like ah, straight upanyway, called world building,

(17:41):
so in, I don't fucking wantworld building.
I just want you to spoon feed mestuff because I'm an idiot.
So the first one is Smile DogOrigins questions.
And we start off with ournarrator like hey, I get a bunch
of emails, but this one inparticular seemed pretty, pretty
legit.
It's from an Arthur Murphy, andArthur emails Grace and is like

(18:02):
hey, saw your videos and I wantto say super impressed by what
you got here.
I fucking love me some smiledog and I got some information
on it that you might want to bein on, and so they start
interacting a bit more and theyset up a date.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I hate it, I hate it.
I hate the way these peopleinteract on here.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yes.
So, I think it's on purpose andwe're gonna see why in a second
, but this is what I imaginemost people on discord are like
together these, so they set up adiscord call that's a bleak
reality.
They set up a discord call totalk to each other and, like
doug said, this is aconversation between two very

(18:43):
terminally online people thatdon't know how to have a social
interaction.
I watched a Nightmind's videoon this and he said that I'm
like, oh my God, he put it intowords that make sense, because
these are people who have nottalked to a real person before.
They've only ever talked to AI,robots or themselves in the
mirror.
Well, the Internet is onlypopulated by bots, so we did

(19:06):
cover that, the dead internettheory, and since we covered
that, a lot of people beentalking about it and just
throwing this other thing outthere too.
Um, in one of them in our likeroundup reddit thing, I
mentioned fucking um, was itfucking bosco park and uh, guess
who decided to make a fuckingvideo on it.
Like two days later it wasnight mine.
So kind of ahead of the fuckingball on this.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I would say Holy shit , I want some Bosco sticks.
So bad.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Go get some Tell Nightmind to deliver them.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Tell Nightmind fucking.
Stop stealing my content, bro,and just come to me if you want
to come to the source.
My guy Just kidding, we knowyou're not stealing from us.
We love you're not stealingfrom us, we love you.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I have your figure You're so not Just kidding,
we're stealing from you.
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, reverse.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, we're going real hard in the opposite
direction, to make sure youdon't realize what's actually
happening?

Speaker 4 (19:54):
No, but I just wanted to bring that up because I
discovered Bosco.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Boy, we stole your content.
You stole our content.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, everybody's stealing everybody's content and
then everybody orgasms at somepoint.
Yeah, no, I love night, mineand I that I.
Just he did it way better thanI because I just touched on it
for like 30 seconds.
He made a whole fucking videoon it.
But anyway, um, go watch, it'sgood stuff, um, anyway.
So they set up this call andthey suck at talking.
They're very awkward.
They're like don't be mad at me.

(20:21):
And she's like uh, I'll try notto be mad at you.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
And he's like it's a lot of that, tom.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's a lot of very uncomfortable talking.
It's like that Like can you doyou have the audio set up?
Can you play a clip?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I can, but don't worry about it, yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Okay, it's fine, just go to smile.
Dog originsions.
Go to like fucking 42 secondsin.
I'm not gonna Go to 42 secondsin and just listen.
That's where it starts and itis the most awkward conversation
people.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Anyway, there's a video about meat puppets in the
related.
You see that shit, yeah, whatthe fuck, we're gonna click on
that later.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Arthur is pretty much like hey, I want to talk to you
about your last upload, yourlast video, which is the one
that Doug was talking about,where she kind of went on the
Paranormal Pricks website andwent down that forum chain.
He's like hey, I want to talkto you about some stuff that I
saw on there.
And so he's like share yourscreen.
She's like okay, share yourscreen.
And he's like you know, if youjust so you know I'm not messing

(21:20):
with you, and If you just soyou know I'm not messing with
you, and if, at the end of this,you think that I'm messing with
you, you can just never talk tome again, ever.
And she's like yeah, I fuckingknow that I was.
That was the goal.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Like, they talk so weird.
That was the goal.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, she's like yeah , I wasn't going to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, but anyway so.
So he's like walking herthrough, he's like through the
last video and he's like, whoa,stop right there, like slow down
your video, stop at this pointand you're going to see some
weird shit.
There's a little and she stops.
Yeah, and there's a bit.
And you can see this in thelast upload, to right before it
cuts out, on the last big imageof Smile Dog, there's like this,

(21:59):
like goop that looks like it'scoming down from the, the mirror
from the ceiling from the, justlike the search bar like it
looks like it's coming off ofthe search bar.
It's like some goopy lookingshit, it's what demon come
probably looks like let's bereal, hey, you heard it here
first, yeah, but so she's tryingto explain it away, like, oh,
that might be coming from, likethe image above it.

(22:20):
Demon semen oh my god, yeah,this demon shit, haven't thought
about that in a while of it.
Demon semen oh my god, yeah,holy shit, haven't thought about
that in a while.
So she's like oh, it could bewhatever.
And he's like I don't know,that looks like something weird.
So then Arthur is like hey, dome a favor, don't share your
screen, but I need you to dothis for me.
He's like did you download theimage?

(22:41):
She's like, yeah.
He's like did you download theimage?
She's like, yeah.
He's like all right, he's whatI need you to do.
I need you to on your own time,on your own fruition.
Don't show me, don't show me.
Should you do it?
Um, open up the image.
Open the image, couple, two,three times and and just do it.
And she's like okay, there'seven a bit here where she's like
I waited a few hours and thendid what was asked of me.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Why, why, why, for one people don't wait hours to
open a fucking email.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
that was there why she sounds like she's in, like
some sort of like dungeon orsomething.
Yeah, kinky relationship.
Yeah, I was asked of me.
This isn't.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I will say I I I really appreciated this last bit
, though, because it's like it'sfilmed on like a hand held
camera, but also like in thecorner they have like the like
screen, the screen recording ofwhat's going on.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
So you get two different about why that screen
screen.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Oh, I do too.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
We can go over it later, but now is Mike's way of
saying kindly shut up Well no, Idon't want to spoil anything.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Don't ruin the atmosphere.
But yeah, I just thought it wasa very haven't seen this before
.
I think it's very interestingmethod of you know giving a look
, atmosphere and stuff to us.
But she's like OK, I'm going tofucking open up the pictures.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Is it ever explained why her background says sex
origins on it?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
I thought that was like a bit because at the end of
, I think, doug's video she likeminimizes and you see sex
origins each year.
Her just go open, just ends.
So I thought it was likesomething that comes up later,
but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Things that are easily edited out of video
footage.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, don't matter though.
So she opens up the image acouple of times and it starts
off as just the regular image.
She closes, she opens it upagain and then, like, these
words start to appear on it andit says you are curious?
And she's like what the hell ishappening here?
And then she opens up anotherone and it just says remember

(24:45):
your sayings.
And then she's like I'm notabout to have a conversation
with a fucking jpeg, bro and umthere's a bit what a jpeg.
There's a bit that after shesays that she opens up another
one and then the words on itchange, it says then you will
talk to another, and then itsays remove the file extension.

(25:05):
She's like, um, okay, so rightnow, currently she has the image
saved as smile dot image, soshe goes to it, she goes,
renames it, she blurs out howshe goes to, uh like, rename it
and open it and everything, butshe like, oh, I think, I think I
know why.
I don't, I don't understandthat.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
But I thought it was just because it was she opened
it up and she was like oh shit,this is my big fat porn.
Stash on it, or something butshe didn't blur it out of the
little in the corner.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So I think, I think I know why this screen is a video
and potato or something I don'tknow.
I was going to mention someshit about cognitohazard, but we
can go over that later.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, if you have an answer tothat, it will not make sense if
I say it now.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
But anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah right, and going into that would just give away
the rest of a lot of things, soI'm going to stop.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
She changes the name from smileimage just to smile,
and then she goes to open it asa GIF for some reason.
Open it as a gif for somereason, and when she does that,
the image itself just changesdrastically.
It's like it's I don't know howto explain it it's like you
know how you see those imagesthat are just made up of smaller
.
I just say that it's animated.
It's not animated.
Oh, you mean like a picture,and like a picture made up of a

(26:18):
bunch of letters and shit.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I don't know how to describe it.
Yeah, it's that.
It's like I forget what it'scalled Like ASCII.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
It's an ASCII image or something.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
But it's like a zoomed in version of this and
then ASCII, ascii it's an ASCIIimage.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh, there we go.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
But it's like a zoomed in version of the smile
dog that we're seeing here.
And then it says foolish to gif.
And then she's out of it andshe changes the name from smile
to smile dot gif.
And right, when she does thatit it opens it up again.
Then it starts moving a littlebit that you actively start to
see the words like change.

(26:54):
Now it says it feels good to beused again in presence and then
she says what the fuck are you?
And then it says I am not thesource.
And then it like changes, likethe, it like goes into um, like
the colors, like invert, kind of, and it says you handle this
laughably.
And he's just like um, she'slike I don't, I don't like

(27:15):
what's going on anymore.
Uh, like what are you?
And he's it says um, I do notknow more than what I am.
And then it says thinking acurse like it, like it's trying
to say it's a curse maybe itthinks that it is a curse yeah,
yeah.
But I also told her somethingthat I found interesting, like I
don't know more than you, kindof you know what I mean.

(27:36):
No, yeah, which I thought waskind of interesting.
And then she asked like how areyou here?
And it says like, um, Itransmit.
I transmit my uh spores throughneurons digital and the flesh.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Holy fuck this interesting stuff.
This is ephemeral sensation andshe's like.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
She's like, um, I don't like what's happening here
.
And then it says you areuncomfortable.
And then she's like how does itknow what I'm feeling right now
?
And then it like Like morphs alittle bit.
It like starts to morph intolike and like, kind of like,
takes over her old screen alittle bit.
And then you hear it kind oflike making this like digital,

(28:16):
like people about Bob you knowlike yes, yeah.
Digital dancing digital dancingdigital style.
And it's like the face gets allcontorted.
It starts like yapping at herkind of like and like.
Then she's like and she reactsthe way I would too.
She's like fuck this.
And just like, closeseverything down and like her
computer starts to glitch alittle bit and then it just
fades to black.

(28:36):
And then she's like um, mycomputer she's.
I've had a migraine all daysince this happened, and also my
computer at night will justrandomly turn on and it'll start
laughing at me.
Then we have like audio of likeI would get rid of my computer.
Yes, right, throw it in thegarbage.
Ron Swanson, that shit into thedumpster like done someone
else's problem yep, and thenshe's she, yeah, she like has a

(28:58):
film and it does sound creepylike you hear the audio of this
thing like kind of laughing inthe background.
Yeah, it's like creepy shit.
I enjoyed that.
Um, the next one is, uh, therake, which is a new voice, um,
someone who we learn is by thename davy, um, but this seems to
be like her other, like partnerin this show that she's making.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Um, people call him the like showrunner I don't know
yet, so I'm assuming that yeah,so this is.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
It's pretty much just .
There's nothing reallynecessary to this.
They just go over like theorigins of the rake, uh,
creepypasta, um.
Fun fact though that I didn'tknow that until I watched this
and who knows how much of it isactually true.
But the um, that like imagethat's going around of like the
rake that's called on like thecctv.
Yeah, that image that's goingaround of like the rake, that's
caught on like the cctv.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, that image that's going around, yeah, but
on the internet for like 15years, yeah, yeah it's going
around, man it's making itsmoves um, have you heard about?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
but what I didn't know is that it that was from an
ad campaign for resistance 3,the old playstation oh shit, I
forgot about the Resistancegames.
According to this who knows howmuch of that is true, but
according to this, that's thelore behind it which is
interesting, and it does kind oflook like See it, shoot it,
share it.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
It does kind of look like.
What is this?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
It does kind of look like a chimera from that show.
You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I've thought about those games.
I know I liked them.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I would like a remake of them.
That'd be great.
And for them to be good becausethey're not that good, probably
not.
Anyway, that's the rake.
It's just a video going overrake shit.
It's the next one.
Next one is called Smile DogOrigins Frustration.
This is one of the longervideos of the bunch.
It's 14, almost 15 minutes long, and it and it's basically our
protag um grace, along with thetwo other people we've met so

(30:45):
far arthur, if you hated thediscord conversation, you're in
for 15 minutes of it here oh,yeah, yeah yeah, it's lovely.
Here's three people who areterminally online not able to
talk to each other properly, uh,but this is basically grace
going over for 15 minutes, goingover like a bunch of things

(31:07):
that she found in the rakeupload.
Like she will pause on likecertain parts where, like
there's like a visual glitch.
She's like what the fuck isthis?
And then she'll pause later onat like a dark patch and, um,
she'll like take a screenshot.
She's like look at this shit,guys, look at that.
She's like take screenshot.
Show like shares her screen sothey can see.
She'll up like the contrast andthe brightness and there'll be
like this image of this, likeghoulish looking face on there.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But she's like but he's immortal though, right?
Oh Meh, sorry, I couldn'tresist.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I didn't hit play on that.
That was weird.
Um, that was creepy.
I didn't hit play on that.
Uh, anyway, spores arespreading, yeah Right, so, um,
that kind of made me lose mytrack.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
The computer just started playing the video by
itself randomly.
That was creepy, um.
So she's explained to them howlike this weird face is popping
up and she's like I didn'tfucking put this here.
Meanwhile, like Davey the otherguy is like I'm sure it was
just like a glitch in, like thesoftware you're using and like
there's tons of, tons of reasonsto what could be happening here

(32:08):
.
Like calm down.
She's like I know if I can doin this dude.
Like she's going like batshitinsane on him and super accurate
, yeah.
And like like she's like she'sI okay, first off, I'm not
trying to sound mean, but graceis a real bitch in this fucking
video.
Like she is mean as fuck tothese guys for no fucking reason

(32:30):
.
Like she started like right offthe gate in this.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
She's like oh, oh, oh , okay, you think you okay, look
at this I want you to considerif you had a talking jpeg on
your laptop that laughed at youat night while you were trying
to sleep.
How, how, how mentally, no, howrelaxed do you think you would
be?
I wouldn't be, but likemaintaining your cool.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
No, but here's the thing.
Right off the rip she's justlike oh, oh, I'm not making it.
I'm not making any of this up.
Just look.
Oh, you think I'm joking.
They haven't said anything yetand she's already like you think
I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I like how Davey's just kind of like yeah, bro, we
saw the video he's like yeah, Idon't know I'm not telling

Speaker 4 (33:11):
you, I'm not she's breaking this all down and
finally they're both like Daveyand Arthur are like okay, chill,
we're on your side, we believeyou, it's cool, we're on your
side, we believe you, cool,we're on your team here.
And she's like I don't fuckingknow what to do, man.
And Arthur's like you know,I've been in this situation
before.
This is a ghost.

(33:32):
Um.
I've had experience with this inthe past once, and they're both
.
And then fucking davey and uhgrace are just like nothing new
to me, man, yeah, this man'sjust like I've been haunted,
fuck it.
And the other two are just like, well, what do we do?
And, um, like davey floats theidea of just like yeeting the
laptop away and she's like, yeah, I got no money for another one

(33:53):
, so I kind of need this if I'mbeing real, if this is a thing
no, you don't been gone sinceday one.
I don't care, I don't need look.
Look, here's your laptop, it'sright here, it's called a phone.
You don't need anything else.
If like what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Format?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
it yeah yeah, that too fucking.
We all know reformatting thingswill completely remove curses
and hauntings from your exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
it's like, um, it's like, what is it called when you
light the shit on fire and you,oh you have to open a window A.
Molotov cocktail.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
What, what's?

Speaker 4 (34:23):
that called Arson.
No, you got the sage.
It's called saging.
I'm a fucking idiot.
What?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
is it called when you put sage in places?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, doug, said it we just talked over here.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Sorry Doug, Sorry bud .
That's like saging a computer,it's just reboot.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Reformatting yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Sage of computers.
Download a picture of Sage ontoa disk.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And then download a picture of fire.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
And then an image of an open window, because it needs
to go somewhere you don't wantto smoke up your window, arthur
floats around.
The idea of putting grace islike what should I do about this
jpeg?
Everything seems to be comingfrom this jpeg and they're like
why don't you remove it?
And then she's like well, Icould, but no one's been talking

(35:11):
about this and I feel like weneed to get to the bottom of
what this thing is.
First off, you're stupid.
You just got a haunted computerand you're like, yeah, you're
like, I gotta get to the bottomof the why isn't anyone like
night minor nexpo talking aboutthis?
Because it's a haunted fuckingcomputer.
You didn't do a dumpster, callit a day um good old dumpster
yeah, so she's.

(35:32):
She defends not deleting thejpeg by of the smile dog by
saying well, I want toinvestigate this further.
So Arthur floats the idea ofputting it into a virtual
machine.
That way it's technically offher computer.
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
is this the video, too, where she's like I don't
know the ethical implications ofdeleting this picture, and he's
like are we seriously debating?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
the ethical implications of deleting a JPEG
freeing up 10 kilobytes on mycomputer, yeah.
And so she's like I don't knowif that'll do anything.
And arthur's like just, I guessyou can try it.
What other options do you have?
And yeah, they're just arguingabout what to do with this thing
.
Meanwhile, davy's like why arewe talking about this?
Just delete the fucking picture.
And she's like, no, no, we'regonna keep it and we're gonna

(36:17):
investigate further.
That's pretty much the wrap-upof this video, okay, um, that's
all I got, that's all you gotfrustration, frustration indeed.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Uh, I'm gonna make my description slightly faster.
So my first video is calledmarioepypasta Image Origins, and
so this video is about acreepypasta that's related to a
Mario ROM hack, and this isactually one that I've never
heard of before.
I had to look this one up, butapparently, oh yeah, the ROM
hack itself is a legit thing.

(36:53):
So it's a ROM hack where it'sSuper Mario World online and
it's edited so that when youfinish the level, it gives you
like this super creepydescription of a murder scene um
and the person who's mentionedin the murders, just called
victim number number one, andit's mentioned that their

(37:15):
eyeballs were ripped out andthey couldn't find their
eyeballs and shit, um, but theactual mystery here, I guess, is
that later on, somebody on someforums found a text file in the
rom hack and realized that itwas actually a jpeg that had
been like had the extensionchanged on it.

(37:35):
So they changed the extensionback to dot jpeg and it was
corrupted.
But they did a reverse imagesearch using the dimensions of
the photo and they found anotherphoto that had, like, the, the
portion of the image that wasstill visible, even though it
was corrupted, matched thisimage that they found on this
reverse image search andsomebody had said well, first of

(37:59):
all, of all, this image camefrom an ARG from 2009, but
somebody had said that this wasactually an edited photo that
was taken from a screenshot of afatal frame, and so Grace, this
game scared the shit out of me.
Grace and her homie wanted tosee if they could recreate this

(38:21):
screenshot.
So or take this screenshot andturn it back into the image that
we're talking about here.
So they tried to do that andthey came up with something that
was pretty close but it stillwasn't perfectly correct.
But they tried to reverse image, search this picture, and they
found a thumbnail of an oldyoutube video from 2008.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
And they open up this youtube video and it's from
somebody named ice cream monkeyfan and it's oh yeah, old
windows movie maker-esque video,the only thing it was missing
was like lincoln park, playingin the background of it or
something.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, it does have like super, like shitty, or
music behind it, yeah, um, butit's basically just a video of
text that goes on to tell thisstory about how this person, ice
cream monkey fan got somestrange emails from a guy named
grin fiend, and it was just anold forwarded chain mail, and

(39:22):
the chain mails mentioned thatyou needed to send the picture
which was the picture that wasincluded in the arg, which was
then included in the rom hack tofive people, um, and then if
you don't do that in time youdie and the image of your corpse

(39:46):
becomes a curse.
And the video also goes on toinclude more pictures of people,
I guess, that were caught up inthis chain mail that got
murdered.
It's assumed that victim numberone then from the rom hack was
somebody who got murdered as aresult of this chain mail and
their picture is a curse fromthe chain mail and that's what

(40:09):
is included in the rom hack.
But then there are otherpictures here in this same video
that are shown and you can seethat one of the pictures is very
similar to like the face thatyou can see in the background
when Grace is like losing herfucking mind and explaining to
her friends over discord yeah,that one that she like ups the
contrast and shit on.
It looks just like that one lookat the nose and whatever, and

(40:32):
then at the end, ice creammonkey fan also mentions that
there's a picture in here thatlooks like a cool dog.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
I think dog very toothy yeah, very toothy dog,
very cool.
Mentions that there's a picturein here that looks like a cool
dog.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I don't care Neat dog Very toothy, yeah, very toothy
dog Very cool.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
What is the lore behind Smile Dog?
Anyway, like TLDR for me?
I don't remember because Iwasn't here for that.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It was a picture that got sent around in this fashion
where no one could figure outthe origin of where it came from
.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
But if you looked at it, eventually you would start
going insane and then eventuallyyou'd end up dead.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, it would just make you go crazy and you would
just die.
Basically yeah it would justhaunt your dreams.
And yeah, oh, that's right, itwouldn't let you sleep, that's
right.
Yeah, it would keep you awakeat night until you finally lost
your mind and killed yourself orsomething.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
All it would just your, all your thoughts would be
consumed with smile yeah, Imean I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
It's like a brain slug from futurama uh, now I get
it okay slurms mckenzie um, Ijust saw a guy with a slurms
mckenzie tattoo the other dayjust walking around wiggity wang
, wang wazzle this was actuallya couple actually fuck.
I can't remember where it was,but a guy was wearing like some

(41:43):
sort of Christian t-shirt and Iwas like that is the phoniest
thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
That's great.
Hell yeah bro.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hell yeah, brother, love Jesus and Slurms McKenzie.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
If they're celebrating our nation.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't care what the secret ingredient is.
Honestly, I'll drink that shit.
It care what the secretingredient is honestly, now I'll
drink that shit.
It could be slug jizz, I don'tcare.
Yep, um.
So the next video is justcalled update, and this is just
grace having, like in hercompletely mentally collapsed
state, mumbling into amicrophone while we see the her
desktop background zooming out,and she really says absolutely

(42:20):
nothing of substance and, asnear as I can tell, the only
person purpose of this video isto demonstrate to you that grace
is losing her shit.
And then also there's a discord.
So there's a link to thediscord for chainmail chasers in
the description.
Um, I'm going to talk about afew more things at the end of
the episode that you can findmore information about in the

(42:40):
Discord if you're so inclined to, but it's not super important
to the videos themselves.
The next video is calledSmileDogOrigin's Interrogation,
and this is basically Grace likegrilling the JPEG, so what she
does is she takes Yo I need someanswers so she takes smilejpg

(43:06):
and slaps it on a vm, like herhomeboy told her to do, and the
discord call and she's like allright, I think I got this shit
contained.
And immediately she finds outthat is not the case, because
she is just sitting at thedesktop staring at the picture
and it like goes all black andlike warpy and then it opens

(43:29):
itself up and then it startstalking to her and it doesn't
say a whole lot of substance.
But this video is super coolbecause at one point it like
breaks out of the vm anddestroys the frame of the window
and shit.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Um, it accuses her of having the audacity to try to
delete a living organism andthen you see yeah, did you see
that when it said that it poppedup the audacity icon?

Speaker 3 (43:55):
yeah, yeah, it's pretty good yeah, the audacity
like and it changes all theicons on the desktop to audacity
.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, I didn't even notice that one.
It's fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah, and then it kind of taunts her by playing
audio of Arthur, who she wastalking to in the Discord chat,
where he says I kind of want toprovoke it.
And then it turns on her TV andshe's like what the fuck?
And it says this is what yournext episode is going to be

(44:25):
about.
And it shows her a picture, andit's a picture that's very
similar to this like smile dogpicture thing that we've been
looking at before, but it'sslightly different, and she's
like I don't know what the fuckthis is.
It's like another flayed manface thing.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And oh yeah, we're about to find out what that is
kind of looks like pumpkin heada little bit holy shit kind of.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah, like a little pumpkin had a little smaller
head.
Uh, sleepwalker, no, oh, itkind of looks like sleepwalker a
smidge okay.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, it looks like a liquor from resident evil oh
yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
But it has eyes.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
It kind of looks like smile dog it kind of looks like
smile dog matt, with theobvious answer here um, okay,
cool, yeah.
So after this video, you justdid uh interrogation, right,
matt?
Yes, okay, no, uh.
After that we get a video, um,named jeff the killer origins.
It's about four minutes longand it's it's literally about

(45:26):
the, the quest that was taken tofind, or like pinpoint the
origin of the uh, jeff thekiller image.
Now, I know, when we went overour jeff the killer episode, we
went over what, like, where itmight have come from, and they
cover a lot of these, uh, thesethings.
But they actually take it way,way, way back, um, and we see a

(45:48):
couple of different versions ofjeff the killer.
Um, we see a, uh, oh, yeah, weget a corrupted file brought to
our attention as well thatsimilarly looks similar to jeff
the killer, but you like, if youhad just seen that image, you
probably wouldn't tie ittogether.
Um, they keep talking about,like, when this came out, there
was a lot of uh debate on wherethe image came from, which is

(46:12):
very true, and they saidactually, uh, one of we can find
the origin of this image,before the actual creepypasta of
Jeff the Killer came out, andthey start going over something
called Mike.
This is where I'm going to tossit to you, because I know you
said you wanted to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
No, I just.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You don't want to talk about it anymore.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
No, I want to talk about this in a cryptic corner.
Oh gotcha, oh, I see whatyou're saying, okay.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So we see something called the Solar Plexus Clown
Glider.
I want to talk about thiscryptic corner, just off the
name alone, or SPCG if you wantto acronymize it.
And now the Solar Plexus ClownGlider is kind of a collective
name given to I don't want tosay a cryptid.

(46:59):
I mean it's technically like acryptid.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
It's a band name.
God it needs to be.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
This is a clown quarter brand band name, if I
ever heard one.
So it's the.
The solar plexus clown glideris a name that is given to.
It's a phenomenon that kind ofembodies what we would define as
a cryptid If it were tangibleand like in the physical sense,
whereas these entities a solarplexus clown glider is actually

(47:32):
more of something that is nottangible, but it is a phenomenon
, sort of like what we've beengetting with the smile dog of
with grace, interacting withsmile dog, talking to it, having
conversations with it you don'tknow if it's real or not kind
of deal.
Yeah, like you're interactingwith it but you can't touch it,
like you can't physically feelit.
Ai, yeah, and that's what we'regoing to refer to as a solar

(47:56):
plexus clown glider.
Apparently, these entities willmake people susceptible to quote
unquote infection, whateverthat means.
The neurons we did we had uh,something probably about spores
infecting your neurons.
I'm guessing that's a referenceto this.
My balls, they are inert.
Um, so after we get the uh, thesolar plexus clown glider, we

(48:21):
kind of get a uh, it's.
It's like a game of hopscotch.
We go this is the originalimage of jeff the killer.
Yeah, here's the corrupt imagethat appeared on um.
Fuck, what was it called?
Again, paranormal, paranormalprick heads dot com.
Um, and then we're gonna goahead and find the link, because
these images are similar.

(48:42):
There's just something missingin between.
It's almost like that missinglink in evolution that we look
for between apes and humans Verysimilar, but with online clowns
, apparently.
Jason.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Jason, jason, if we monkey, why they're still monkey
?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Come on, because monkey Jeff kill.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
If Jeff kill.
If Jeff kill her.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Why, jeff?
Yeah, why, jeff, you know what?
You're right, mike is a cuckDog.
Smile, sorry, filter turned offfor a second.
There, I do have a chair in mybedroom.
I got the cuck chair.

(49:24):
We're ready for the name.
Um, so yeah, so we get this.
We get some more informationabout the solar, the solar
plexus clown, whatever the fuck.
I just said um, glider, clown,glider, that's right.
Um, and then we go into likethis long like where do we find
this missing link?
And eventually we find an imagebased around the solar plexus

(49:49):
clown glider that seems to fitthe mold as the link between
this and it's one of the imagesthat was shown in the last video
, the very end of it, with thered face and the teeth and the
eyes Same picture.
It's just in black and whiteAnd's the contrast is like blown
to shit, and so when you putthem next to each other, you can
definitely see the similaritiesbetween the jeff, the killer

(50:09):
image that we all know, andalmost like a stepping stone in
between that red face.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Let me see at the end of matt's last video I'm sorry,
but I'm utterly distracted by,but I'm utterly distracted by
the fact.
I'm utterly distracted by thefact that I let that video reach
the end and it automaticallyplayed a video called how to
squeeze a human through a fiveinch hole.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I think you just found our next episode.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I thought you were looking at the.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
I thought you're looking at the Twitch comment.
That's just.
I saw solar plexus clown glideropen up for flotation.
Toy warning at Asbury Park in2017.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But so we see whoever's doing this is playing
around with the contrast andshowing us the similarities
between Jeff the Killer and allthat.
But that's pretty much themajority of the Jeff the Killer
Origins update video.
After that we get a smile dogorigins working timeline.
Now this is almost the exactsame thing as the last video,

(51:10):
but in regards to smile dog,where it connects the different
links between the images and ittakes you kind of through the
very earliest image up to thevery most recent one that we all
kind of know, and it shows usall the links, shows us all the
images that might not haveanything to do with it, and it
kind of separates the wheat fromthe chaff.
What?
The wheat from the chaff?
The wheat, no.

(51:31):
What's chaff, what's chaff?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Chaff is wheat garbage.
That's my next door neighbor.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Kind of like how Cheetos was the garbage from uh.
Fuck, what was it?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
uh oh yes, you know, I mean, I do know.
Yes, producing something out ofcorn except chaff is useless.
So separating the useful fromthe useless is kind of what that
means.
So weed from the chaff.
Um, so we get the smile dogorigins working timeline.
We get all the way back fromlike the mid 90s, sometimes
honestly even late 80s at somepoints.
Uh, mid 90s.
We see the very, very older,older, older images and, if you

(52:09):
like, dotted lines or or fullyformed lines connecting pictures
to other pictures.
This is the video for you.
This is all over the place.
Um, they go over how theoriginal image seems to be
stolen.
They talk about all thedifferent theories that come up.
Honestly, when we were talkingabout like the smile dog, they

(52:30):
ran some of those.
They separate the ones thathave nothing to do with it and
at the very end of it we end uprealizing, based on this graph,
that there is a there's asimilarity between, uh, smile
dog and jeff the killer and alot of these other chain mail
entities or solar plexus clowngliders.
Um, now, throughout this video,you are going to get different

(52:56):
points in time where it justcompletely cuts in the middle of
a sentence and then goes overto a conversation that happens
periodically, like in a bunch ofmine.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
It does that too, I guess it's.
Is it supposed to show thatsomething's fucky is going on?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I think it's, it's in , it's a little look into their
uh, research into the the wholetopic.
But it also it it gives us someinformation that we wouldn't
have gotten otherwise becausethey wouldn't tell us.
So, like one of them you allyou see is like I think it's a
pair of shoes and like almostlike a piece of fabric, kind of
like flopping around hiding umwho it actually is that is

(53:28):
talking.
You can't hear the responses,but you can hear the questions
being asked, and one of thethings that I picked up on was
yeah, but do you really trustwhat it says?
Now I, based on everything elsethat we just talked about, that
can only be in reference to onefucking thing, right, this
fucking entity that's beenterrorizing.
What's her name?
Grace, grace.

(53:51):
And so, speaking of Grace,throughout this video you're
also going to see I think it'stwo separate points where at one
point you're going to see Grace, just kind of her face
illuminated by a computer screen.
She's going to be staring at itand you're going to hear I
think it's a familiar noise fromone of the other videos, I
think it was one the glitchy italmost signals like, hey, this

(54:15):
fucking thing is here, oh Lordit coming, oh Lord it coming.
Indeed.
It shows her, the sound playsand she gets super worried.
And then it cuts right backinto telling us all about this,
all this research they've beendoing.
There's a hand that pops oversome on.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Her isn't there, or is that later?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
That's the second time.
Oh, I missed.
I didn't notice At least I thinkso, if I'm remembering it
correctly the second time oh, itmight be the first actually now
I think about, because thesecond time is when, uh, she
gets talked to by the entity inthe computer, and this is where
I fucking hated myself for notturning closed captions on, um,

(54:53):
and so the second time that wesee her, uh, and actually now
that I'm saying it, you don'tactually see her.
It's almost like a blurred,beige, green background image,
almost like somebody's rubbed abunch of Vaseline on the fucking
lens of the camera.
But we hear this really likedeep, distorted voice, and I

(55:16):
really wish I knew that.
I wish I had thought to turnthe captions on, but I didn't,
because I'm an idiot, and so Ilisten to this part like 90
fucking times on, but I didn'tbecause I'm an idiot, and so I
listened to this part like 90fucking times.
Oh, trying to figure out whatit's saying.
Yeah, Honestly, it's literallyjust a.
It's being super deep is whatSmile Dog is doing?
Basically, this voice istelling is basically asking a

(55:39):
philosophical question of if atree falls in the forest and no
one is around to hear it, doesit make a difference?
Is what it asks.
And then we hear grace go oh mygod, shut up like it's just
like I'm so fucking done withyou yeah, I should.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I'm gonna put this into.
I don't know if we mentioned ittoo much.
I think it was in Matt's videowhen she's like interrogating it
or whatever it's video.
When she's like interrogatingit or whatever it's like
constantly telling her.
Like oh so you trust, you know,you trust arthur, or whatever,
like he.
Just he's the one that keepssaying he knows what to do about
this thing and yet it he's,he's still fucking up.
And there's a point, I think,where it says, like for a person

(56:16):
who says they've dealt withthis before and succeeded, they
sure are looking up a bunch ofvideos on how to deal with this
type of situation Like it'sconstantly antagonizing her.
Like you trust that guy, youdon't look up videos to solve a
problem you've already solved.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like constantly likewhy trust him?
You should trust me, why him Idon't?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
know I do want to read this one comment.
So there is somebody in thecomment section of the video
that says at seven minutes and51 seconds didn't come off as
scary to me.
This is when we hear thatdistorted voice and it looks
like Vaseline's on the camera.
I just imagine Smile Dogripping off a bong and saying
the most nonsensical deep shithe can think of, while Grace is

(56:59):
the only person who even botherslistening to stoned underscore.
Dog dot gif and that's onlybecause he locked her in the
room so it seems like thisiteration of smile dog has
trapped grace in a room and isforcing her to be an audience to
question mark.

(57:19):
We have no fucking idea.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Smile dog.
I hear a ripping bong.
Every poo-poo is pee-pee time,but not every pee-pee is poo-poo
time.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
You pee on your shit or you poo-poo on your pee.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
The first, if I can help it, that is the meat and
potatoes of.
Honestly, let's's.
That is the, the meat andpotatoes of let's.
Honestly, let's call that videothe, the wheat of, of, uh, the
season one of chainmail chasers.
Yes, that is the very lastvideo in what they are referring
to as season one.

(57:55):
Um, after this, you are goingto get a bunch of videos that by
bunch, it's like three.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
So the very fucking.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Doug, I wasn't listening.
The very last video that we getis, honestly, it's a whole
conversation.
It's just an ad for paranormalprick heads dot com.
It's a web ad that was releasedright around 2008, and it
introduces the admin that's incharge of the whole site and
talks about how we put a.

(58:25):
There's nothing specific here.
It's just full of stuff.
We're trying to figure outparanormal things like come on
down, come on down toparanormalprincesscom there's a
couple of glitchy points whereit's gonna.
There's some lines of dialoguethat I'm sure either are ripped
from season one or are a hybridbetween season one follow up,
slash season two, but everythingin this video is prep for the

(58:46):
next season, which we don'treally know much about.
I think there's one video outat this point, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Our fucking long.
Yeah, really, it's just onehour long.
We didn't.
We're not going to discuss ittonight, just because, like so
on the channel this was the lastup.
Everything was uploaded twoyears ago, except this one that
was uploaded a month ago, amonth ago and it's a 50 minute
fucking video and premiere ayear in year, year in rear view,

(59:13):
yeah, and I figured it lookslike season one is wrapped up.
Um, this might be the intro toseason two, so I didn't want us
to cover this because theremight be way more coming out and
if we want to get to it,awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
If it's because of what is happening, though is
season two is mostly being.
There's a lot of stuff going onwith the website.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
The only reason I think that we're actually
bringing up this parentparanormal prick heads dot com
web ad video is because if youwant to go look at this site,
please for the love of god dothere is there's a way to get
around the site.
That's hidden at the very top.
Um, also, please use a like alaptop or a computer.
Don't use mobile because itfucking sucks.
Um, but you can actually clickaround on.

(59:57):
You get to explore thiscollection of solar plexus clown
gliders and it's.
There's a bunch of weirdphenomena.
You can listen to some audio.
You can read up on someancillary information.
There's a lot of there's afuckload of information here and
it's super cool, and if you'veever been to Laughing Horse
Orifice's headquarters website,it's very reminiscent of that in

(01:00:20):
some pieces.
The Laughing Horse Orifice'sheadquarters website.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
It's very reminiscent of that in some pieces.
Most of the website is notactually get-to-able by browsing
the website.
A lot of it is actually hid inHTML files that don't have any
direct links.
As far as I can tell, I found abunch of them.
Most of the way that I foundthem was going to the Discord
that is linked in the updatevideo and just search for

(01:00:42):
paranormalprickheadscom andyou'll find a bunch of people
posting discord messages aboutthese separate links that they
found.
Um, most of these include like abunch of what seems to be
background lore about what'sgoing on here.
There's's stuff about fallenangels and basilisk a bunch of
crazy shit, like there's a pagewith an elephant that's in

(01:01:04):
Japanese.
There is letters to the adminsof the site at some point, as
they were like transferringownership of the site or at
least transferring moderation ofthe site to other people.
There's some links to someaudio files that really don't
have any meaning at the moment.

(01:01:25):
Um, what you do find out fromthis website is that, uh, the
thing that is haunting gracesmilejpg is actually called the
dragon.
Yeah, and there's a whole pageon the dragon.
Um, so if you go to paranormalprickheadscom, slash the dragon
dot html.

(01:01:45):
Um, you can find what seems,maybe seems, to be some
information about what the fuckthis thing is.
A lot of the information isactually hidden in the html, so
you have to view source on theweb pages.
At some point there is a wikifor this, um, but it's not super
useful anymore.
Because at some point, there isa wiki for this, but it's not
super useful anymore, because atsome point, there was links to
a Google doc that I suppose hadthese descriptions in them with

(01:02:10):
explanations of maybe what theymeant, but the link doesn't work
anymore.
Unless you can find itsomewhere in the Discord, you'll
have to go back to these pagesand look at the source.
Yeah, it's very complex looking.
Yeah, so if you want to look,at that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
You fucking figure it out.
We're not figuring that shitout right now.
Yeah, that's fucking sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
One other thing I'll say about this is that if you go
to the front page ofparanormalprickheadscom, there's
a thing that says 42 out of 76pages online, and the lore
explanation for this, I guess,is that paranormalprickheadscom
was taken down at some point andthey lost most of the pages,
but they're finding archives ofthem and so they're re-adding

(01:02:54):
them as they find them.
At one point this said 22.
And now it says 42.
I think the last time it wasupdated was December 31st of
2024, so it's been updatedfairly recently.
This seems to suggest that morepages are findable, but there
are a fuckload of them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah, well, I'm guessing gearing up for season
two, I'm guessing they're addinga bunch more pages to drive it
along.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Keep an eye on that, I guess, if you're hell yeah in
this yeah, yeah, part of mewonders if, um, because they
uploaded that giant video forseason two, part of me wonders
if that video is all thatthere's gonna be and the
remainder of the story is gonnatake place on that site.
Because it is like the 52minute video is broken up like

(01:03:43):
per month, like it's Januarythrough December of 2024.
Um, and it's just, it's brokenup just like that.
So I I'm curious as to what,how, what they're going to do to
continue forward, if they'regoing to keep uploading to
YouTube or if they're going tofocus mostly on this website or
not.
Um, I don't know, but we'llfucking see hell yeah, we will

(01:04:05):
or either the rest of our topics.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
We'll let them just fade away.
Or they won't, or they willexactly, or they won't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Um yeah, but that's, that's chainmail chasers.
So far, uh, as far as we can,you know, or as far as we want
to look into it, there's no timeto right now.
Let's talk about our feelingson this one.
Boys, first and foremost, let'splay the game we haven't played
in a while.
Real or fake, oh shit.
Let's bring this bad boy backon, go.

(01:04:35):
I want you to say if you thinkit was fake or real.
I want you to say why.
Ready One, two, three, go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Real Fake, really fake, really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
But I could see it if I haven't seen it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
how did I watch it If it was fake?
That's damn real.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I changed my mind, you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Yeah, no.
So what did you guys?
What did you guys think of thiswhole thing?
Jason, you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I was shocked and surprised at how much I actually
enjoyed this.
I will say I was very tiredwhen I started, so I started
falling asleep about halfwaythrough.
But the the tired when Istarted, so I started, uh,
falling asleep about halfwaythrough.
Um, but the the core concept,the story behind it, like it's,
it's something that we all areinterested in.
We all love internet, youtube,urban legend, urban legends, um.
So to find something that triesto explain them by tying them

(01:05:25):
all together, like that's supercool to me, especially when you
do it in a way like this.
I was kind of surprised by that.
I think there are definitelysome areas that can use work
when it comes to plot and likeplot devices, but other than
that, I mean I overall very muchenjoyed it.
Dumbless.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Yeah, no, I agree, I think I think it's a really cool
concept.
I think it was.
I think there's a lot ofpotential here with this one.
It feels on brand and but alsolike kind of unique, if that
makes sense, like it's notsomething I've we've seen before
, like a lot of like.
I like the fact that they'replaying upon the things that we

(01:06:05):
like to talk about, if thatmakes sense.
Yeah, however, I do not like themain character.
I find them to be annoying andI feel like they're doing the
plot a disservice.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
that's my opinion that's fair muthalimu, I think
it's okay.
Oh wait, before you go, do youwant me to do?
You need a refill of your, your, your hater rate my hate yeah,
professional hater opinioncoming at you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
No, I, I didn't hate it.
Uh, okay, so first, at first Ihated it.
I watched the first twoepisodes and was like I'm gonna
fucking hate this and then itgot, and then it got better.
So, um, I I think it's okay.
I'd probably give it like a sixand a half out of 10.
There is some really creativestuff here that, I think, is

(01:06:56):
what draws people to this seriesthat I really like.
Like the very creative waysthat they connect all of these
completely disjointed or likeunconnected creepypasta things.
I think it plays a lot onnostalgia, which is something
that a lot of people are reallylike about it.
Um, some of the ways that theyfilm stuff is pretty creative.

(01:07:18):
Like we talked earlier aboutwhy we thought that window of,
like the actual screen captureis up in the corner, night mind,
which I don't know sometimes ifnight mind plays up things to
his uh he was, I saw 13 year oldfurries or if he actually
doesn't understand how thingswork.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
But he was like I don't know how she did that.
I was like I don't know how shedid that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
It's very clear to me that what she did was she
recorded the screen, yeah, justedited yeah, she edited it, yeah
, and then just played the videoin full screen and then filmed
herself.
Watching the video, you can seeat some points where, like, the
mouse jumps.
If you go frame by frame, likewhen she clicks on something,
the mouse is suddenly halfwaydown the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
It's very obvious that, yep, and there's moments
too where like for example in inmine, when she's changing like
the name of like the gif, fromlike smile dot, jpeg, dot, image
to whatever you see, like yousee her click on it, go to
change name and then you see itgo away and you see the name
just come up and then while it'sgoing up she's still clickety

(01:08:22):
clack.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah, way too many times the keystrokes do not
match the amount of letters thatshe's putting into the name at
all um, it's not hard, just toso with all that like that's
gripey little bullshit.
Yeah all with.
It's better than 99% of theshit we watch like this.
From a technical and creativityperspective I will say but I

(01:08:45):
don't know with anything likethis, it's got obviously this
was a fan request it's got it'sdedicated group of people that
are just super fucking into it.
And I think, with anything likethis, I sometimes don't get it
because I think I think I'm likethree to four years too old.
There's like oh, yeah, there'sa period.
there's a period of unfictionthat happened from like 2008 to

(01:09:08):
like 2013 that some people werelike 10 years old for and
they're they're super fuckinginto the nostalgia that and I
think I was just barely too oldthat, like in this, in this
small section of time on theinternet, I would have been like
this is fucking stupid.

(01:09:29):
Yeah, Because I was like 14 or15 or 16 and was like this is
like little kid shit, um, and soI think that nostalgia that
works on people who are likewe're probably like middle
school when this shit was yeahgoing on that I I can see where
that that is in play with a lotof this kind of stuff and so,

(01:09:50):
and so I get it like there'sshit from, like you know, the
early 2000s that is in play witha lot of this kind of stuff and
so, and so I get it likethere's shit from, like you know
, the early 2000s that isdripping with nostalgia.
That is probably ass garbagethat I love so most movies.
This is that era yeah, this isprobably just going off on a
tangent, but biker mice frommars for me fuck you.
That's something I thoughtabout right

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
yeah, I, I really enjoyed this one like a lot.
Like, out of everything we'vecovered, I think this is top
tier for me, only because of uh,it's a lot of the shit we
already talked about.
It's, the way that it wasfilmed is different.
It night, mind I.
I hate to just keep hearkeningback to things he said, but he
did put it very well where, likeyou see creepypastas online all

(01:10:34):
the time where it's just youknow an image and then just
blocks and blocks of text.
That is the story.
This feels like that, butwithin a visual format.
Like I'm, I, whatever you'd bereading out is giving to, given
to you in a visual format.
Yes, and I, looking at it fromthat perspective, I really
enjoyed it because this doesplay out like you are looking at

(01:10:56):
a visual representation of thatcreepypasta page.
Yeah, and I appreciate thatit's plot heavy.
I enjoy the plot.
I know you said like there'syou and I think Doug said
there's some things where it'slike oh, there's some things I
would have done differently,plot wise, yada, yada.
I personally, I, I enjoyed it.
I think it progressed, yeah Idon't have rather good yeah, I

(01:11:16):
think it progressed well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
There's some videos like a bit too long, like the
one that's yeah like the discordtalk and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Cut that shit down to like two minutes.
Don't need it, um, but all, allin all, I thoroughly enjoyed
this one.
I have have no notes Besidesthat.
I'd just say keep.
Besides all the notes I justgave you, besides the notes I
gave you, I'd say keep going.
I will say, though, Ithoroughly enjoyed it.
You could tell that they reallyare taking their time on this,
but with the website being madeall the like the video that they

(01:11:44):
made for this, where the wholeentity busts out the virtual
machine and everything thattakes time to make you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
And there's, there's quality, there's production
value.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
To this there's dedication, there's, there's
love put towards it.
It's not.
It's not just some shitty.
Here's a slideshow.
The effort is there yeah,effort is there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
I will say, like the paranormalprickheadscom, that
one.
So what I will say about thisis the authenticity is there a
hundred?
Percent like like that websiteI I had to look and see when it
was made because I was like isthis a website that they
repurposed or something?

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
because it's very, it's very when you said laughing
horse orifices, I'm like yeah,that is just like that lhohq.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
And there's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
There's little details, like in the um video
that actually explains theoriginal chain mail that they
find in the reverse image search.
There's like in the video thatactually explains the original
chain mail that they find in thereverse image search.
There's like at the end of thatvideo they're like rate this
five stars, which is a nicelittle call back to like the
rating system that used to be onyoutube so it's little details
like that that are super cool.

(01:12:45):
There's been a lot of attentionpaid to detail and I I
appreciate that a lot.
I appreciate that everything'sspelled correctly like that's a
big one.
Yes, oh my god for that holyshit like that, that minor that
automatically puts you in likethe top percentile, yeah, of

(01:13:07):
these kind of projects.
So, yeah, cool for that.
I.
I know it's 6.5 makes it soundlike I'm being a hater and I
really hated this, but that forI.
I started this thinking.
I was thinking it was going tobe like a two and you won me
back, so you know, readings arelegit, though, because
everything's a nine or a ten,then right like yeah nothing is

(01:13:28):
a 6.5.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
A mat scale is pretty high, high.
Yeah, like you're.
You're doing good.
I would give this.
I mean, my skills always, kindof, are higher.
I will say I'm one of thosepeople, but I will say this is
probably like a 9 to me.
I thoroughly enjoy this one alot.
Very, very well done, bravo.
Yeah, I think it's good yeahfantastic 6.5 or like 7.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
And just to hark back onto my thing about not liking
the main character.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I think it's supposed to be like that, though I think
it's intentional.
It reminds me of Annie fromBash Cam.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
It's not ruining.
I don't want to say it'sruining it by any means.
I just don't like the character.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
And again, whether that be intentional or not, I
think they're supposed to be anidiot, because that's a thing,
right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
yeah, it's like with every horror story where it's
like you weren't a completedunce, you would have figured
out that you should have stoppedwell, it's like annie from dash
cam or fucking sean from deadstream like annoying as piss,
stupid as hell, but they'renecessary to drive this shit
forward and that's why.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
that's why to me it harkens and and feels like Like
you're watching a visualrepresentation of a creepypasta,
because in those the protag isalways an idiot.
Oh, a haunted Godzilla NEScartridge.
Instead of throwing away, I'mgoing to keep playing it.
What a dead girl's haunting mefrom it.
I'm going to keep playing it.
Yeah, the protag is alwaysstupid in these.
So of course you're going to bestupid here.
It makes sense for the plot lotand I, I like that.

(01:14:47):
I like it, I like it.
Fuck you doug boys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Can we end the episode?

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
yeah.
So let's wrap it up real quickon this one.
Um, again, like always, uh,anyone listening live don't go
anywhere.
We're gonna be right back.
But um, I want to say, uh, sendus an email dullypod at
gmailcom.
Look us up on all socials.
Um, uh, anywhere you're at,we're probably on it.
We're even we're in talks tomaybe getting on blue sky.
We'll see how that goes.
So, oh yeah, just look us upanywhere on any social diluty

(01:15:17):
potter.
Don't look under the internetand, um, give us a rating on
spotify and shit.
We'd appreciate that too.
I love you.
I love you, dad.
Go eat a tooth or two.
I'm done, jason uh, stayparanoid.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Um, watch out for chain mail.
That shit started a long timeago.
I know we all grew up with it,but it still continues to be a
thing, unfortunately, and I'mnot just referencing the episode
, but watch out for thosenigerian princes, you know, yeah
just don't check your email.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
That's what I just don't do what I do just ignore
your email.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Oh um, shout out to all I got.
I am leaving, okay bye.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Shout out to ghoulish mortals and undefined graphics
Mike Lowy as well for thegraphics and also ghoulish just
being friends of the show andalso doing something with us
later on.
Your mortals, what you got forus howdy ho.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Have a great day from your friendly neighborhood,
hater.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Doug, what do you got ?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Um, slap your peens and your beans, get your flu
shot.
Don't be like me.
Um, god damn, I got fucked, doyou?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
see where there's like a measles outbreak In Texas
cause people aren't vaccinated.
Fucking chitlins.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
There's a fucking TB outbreak In fucking like Kansas
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Boys.
There's an outbreak ofeverything right now.
Laurie says all you see isfucking RSV and fucking Flu and
shit all over H5N1 or whateverthe fuck Is coming for our geese
Avian flu.
Protect your cats.
Yeah, they did Doug, that's howthey get around.
H5n1 or whatever the fuck iscoming for our geese Avian flu.
Protect your cats, avian.
Yeah, they did Doug, that's howthey get around.

(01:16:59):
Ba-doo-ch, ha-ha.
Yes, anyway, bye everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
I hate you.
Bye, don't look under theinternet.
Outro Music.