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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Don't look under the internet, all right murder the
most melons.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm okay, I'm good.
The fuck.
It's a vocal warm-up.
I understand.
Dally sold seashells by theseashore Unique New York.
Unique New York, unique NewYork, I don't know.
Brown Cow, red leather, yellowleather, red, la-la-la-la, all
right, ready.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Denied a bank loan.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I hate you.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Brown Cow.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hello everyone.
God is great I hate this okay,nope hello, everyone hello and
welcome hello to don't lookunder the internet, your
spiritual guide to bullshitteryand stupidity.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's a very special ASMR episode we get nice and
personal with you.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
This right next to me is Jason.
Hello, over there in otherplace land is Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Greetings.
I'd rather be playing Oblivion.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And over there in another other place, land is
Doug hey there.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
All you listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Today, on our journey , we go back to the energetic
synthesis cult.
And why?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
talking like this is.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I got to take this hood off for a while we got to
say, allegedly now, becausewhile it is our opinion that it
is a cult apparent, we don'twant to make ourselves targets
of what we'll talk about later.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yep, it is not yet on the National Cult Watch.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
So this is part two of Energetic Synthesis.
And, oh boy, I Can you put meon suicide watching.
What's the number, what's thesuicide?
I?
Think I have to.
No, so legally we don't haveany housekeeping other than me.
You know, housekeeping fortoday is to prepare yourself,

(02:45):
take a deep breath and ascend.
Get ready to ascend your assoff.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Get ready to put a shield up.
You know, defend yourself fromthe negative aliens.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
We're going to get into part two, so let's get into
it.
Which one of you guys isstarting?
Not me.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
So, to give a brief summary of last week, we talked
about the ES system essentiallyand what it is and how that came
to be.
Kind of I'm not going tore-explain it because I still am
not sure what it is, but I'mgoing to cover how we can

(03:27):
practice it, how we can put itfrom paper to still on paper, if
you will.
So I'm covering a websitecalled the Crystal Aegis and
this is the spiritual supportsystem developed by Lisa Renee
as part of the energeticsynthesis framework.

(03:48):
It's designed to assistindividuals in overcoming
negative thought patterns,emotional imbalances and
addictive behaviors by fosteringpersonal sovereignty and
spiritual alignment.
Esf or whatever it is, if youwill.
Esf or whatever it is, if youwill.
So there are five basic steps toactually putting this into

(04:09):
practice, and step one is theagreement and the request for
intercession.
And if you were going to dothis, it might sound something
like I, mike Allen, choose fullythe authority of God's law and
that which serves the light oftruth.

(04:29):
I commit to my healing andrequest guardian intercession on
my behalf to restore thecorrect proportions of my
manifestation body to theeternal, perpetual supply of the
god source.
Sorry, I heard I?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I heard a ghost, and then I heard you saying I'm God
and I got back into it.
So apologies, I missed a littlebit of that.
But did you whisper orsomething?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
No, I have thought about hiding a whisper machine
Inside your headphones, but IWell, I took them off and I just
hear like From like right whereyou're at.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
That's why I look at you funny.
Sorry, go ahead.
That was great, that was spooky.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Good, good, good yeah .
So just cut me off mid already.
Sorry, go ahead.
That was great, that was spooky.
Good, good, good, good, good,good, good yeah.
So just cut me off mid in thatI'll just go on to the second
step, which is the activation ofthe 12D shield, or what you
could be called the preparingthe foundation.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
How about a drawing?
Can you get us a drawing?
That was an accident.
Why Time the?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
preparing the foundation.
Can you get us a drawing?
That was an accident what.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Time Did this?
The fucking wire cut?
Hit that or something?
Oh, he accidentally bumped itwith his arm.
I bumped it with my arm, sorry,no, it's all good.
That was actually a prettyfunny spot for that, anyways.
So step two is preparing thefoundation.
This is authentically declaringyour intention from your heart
to resolve authority issues.
This actually all kind of stemsback to what matt was talking

(05:52):
about last episode, about howthey have kind of taken those
people who are in a badsituation or in a bad mental
state and they're now prying onthose people.
So this is very culty in itselfbecause, hey, like they're
basically saying, hey, we canhelp you, not feel like shit, do

(06:13):
our thing, anyways.
So again still on step two, yougot to activate your inner
spirit and your core shield andthen, from within your 12D
shield, you're going to create ahub, handshake, yeah, yeah,
sick.
And then I guess what the Godsovereign free thing is is.
They call that the boundarytest.

(06:35):
So this is all step two.
It sounds like a lot more stepsthan just step two, but I
promise you it's just step two.
Steps than just step two, but Ipromise you it's just step two.
Um, and then we go to stepthree, which is discernment, or
turning your feelings, uh, ortune tuning your feelings to
discern whether the guidancethat you're getting is truly
aligned with your higher self,and this actually is going to

(06:57):
kind of play into the likenegative energies and the
negative aliens and all thatshit.
So step three would basicallybe, uh, essentially declaring
your intentions and then, whenthose intentions come to you,
figuring out or judging ifthey're truly positive or not,

(07:19):
which okay, um and then you'regonna start clear, clearing your
negative attachments.
Uh, so you're right, you, yougotta practice daily and you
gotta regularly cleanse yourenergy field and release any and
all emotional energy blockageswhich could be those pesky
negative aliens.
You know what I'm saying.
So you gotta make sure you'recalibrating your 12d shield for

(07:44):
removal of your crux implant.
Uh-huh, yep, I'm not going todefine that any further for you
you don't know.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I think I've been told that seven or eight times
in my life.
It's, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
We all know what it means and last but not least,
you must surrender and trust.
You must surrender your higherself and allow divine guidance
to lead the way.
You have to build integrity inyour spiritual house.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Okay, you have to commit by saying you're saying
that, oh god, yeah, okay, so yougot to build integrity, you
know.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
You got to make sure that the right, the right beings
, are leading you to where youneed to be.
All right.
So let's talk about negativeego a little bit.
We've touched on it, but thenegative ego is a big portion of
the crystal aegis.
So the negative ego isn't justa collection of bad habits or
insecurities.
It's portrayed as a weaponizedfalse identity.

(08:42):
All right, it's a spiritualparasite that has been
deliberately engineered to keephumans disconnected from their
true divine essence.
So, according to Lisa,basically we're all
pre-programmed to not remember,right To not be our divine
beings.
Apparently, we're all divinebeings, but we're just our lowly

(09:05):
human piece of shit selvesright now, and that's what this
helps you do.
You were a piece of shit andnow you're no longer a piece of
shit.
You just gotta follow the.
You gotta follow the steps tonot be a piece of shit anymore.
Okay, follow the not a piece ofshit steps.
So, um, the negative ego is notnatural and it's actually the
result of artificial energeticimplants and mind control

(09:27):
agendas.
Yes, this is literally what shecalls it.
So it's described as beingprogrammed to generate fear,
judgment, control and separation, and it behaves almost like an
independent entity acting with akind of mission directive to
block your spiritual growth andkeep people locked into a lower
vibrational state, which you'veheard that term already, um,

(09:48):
which she refers to the 3d uh asthe 3d mind matrix.
And the wild part is, um thatshe suggests that this ego
structure was actuallyintroduced by negative alien
groups and it's theirlong-standing agenda to enslave
the humanity by basicallydistorting our perception of

(10:09):
self and reality.
So, um, it works like aninternal uh like saboteur and
constantly reinforces shame,guilt, fear and um comparison
and all that stuff, that, thoseinternal feelings that you feel
that you're like man, I'm notworth it, blah, blah, blah, I'm
jealous of this, and that it'salmost like the the seven cents.
So, um, in short, uh, theybasically are saying that you're

(10:34):
fighting your bad thoughts.
And then you know, in thisspiritual world, um, with this
built-in psychic thing, you needto make sure that you practice
every day to dismantling yourego, and it's not really a
self-improvement thing.
She literally wants you tounplug a parasitic, fake

(10:54):
parasitic force from your brainVia evolution somehow.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Has RFK listened to this?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
This is where he got the parasitic yeah, he'd be all
up in there and you guys haveprobably heard this a bunch.
But the God self this ismentioned a lot in this and the
idea that fear and control areweapons of this negative ego
which blocks the God self.
It's considered the part of youthat's connected to the source

(11:23):
and you're going to hear thesource a lot the universal
consciousness or the divine, allthe same thing.
God self, uh, the source, uh,even when they mentioned God,
I'm not even sure that they'rereferring to God as God.
You know what I'm saying.
They're.
They're referring to thisinterconnected web that of

(11:45):
collected spiritual energy.
Yeah, so there are some toolsfor ego exorcism that I
mentioned before, and these arelike, uh, these could be daily
disciplines or you know, I guessa sci-fi fucking ritual or
something.
But, um, the outline basicallyelaborates that, uh, if you do

(12:06):
these practices and all of thisstuff, um, you'll, you'll be
cleansed right and you'll becomedivine.
So one of the things that I'mgonna go over is the d 12, or
the d 12, the 12 d calibration.
Mike, do you, do you have amoment?
Roll for damage yeah, roll forshields.
Um, mike, uh, do you have amoment?
Roll for damage?

(12:26):
Yeah, roll for shields.
Mike, do you have a moment?
Can you help me out?
I feel like, do you want tocalculate your 12 Ds?
Yeah, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, fuck it, I don't have much going for me,
right now You've only got 12 ofthem, 12 Ds nuts.
It's pretty simple.
I'm sure you can do it.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Let's do it.
All right, mike.
So you're, you're about toinitiate hell yeah, your 12d
calibration.
All right, I want you to be, Iwant you to think, I want to
close your eyes, maybe, and I, Iguess you need to ground
yourself.
All right, I need you to getgrounded and centered.
Go to your room.
I need you to clear your thirdeye.
All right, my mind palace go toyour yeah, go to your happy

(13:05):
place.
Alright, are you ready?
Are you grounded?
You're grounded, mister.
Okay, step one we need toactivate your internal pillar of
light.
That's the first step.
I want you to picture it.
It's like a.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's in your elbow.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's sick.
It's just a big pillar of light, alright, and it's imagine a
big ass lightsaber.
Okay, it's like a silvery whitelight.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Okay, you got that in your head.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Do you see it?
Yes, I see it.
Alright, now I need you tospiral your consciousness to the
12th dimension.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Uzumaki's up there if you need it.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Can you elaborate on what that means?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Spiral my consciousness to the 12th.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I can't have you landing at the 11th dimension.
It has to be the 12th.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Remember, your brain works in 21 dimensions, so you
can get there.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Once your elevator hits that, let me know.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Maybe I do need that physical manifestation.
I'm going to picture anelevator going to the 12th floor
.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
If you get stuck in there, bust the telephone out
Going up the pillar to the 12thfloor of the pillar.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Just make sure you activate it Now.
While this is happening, youneed to be judging whether the
information that you're seeingis truth or negative energy
aliens.
I thought I was just seeing makesure, make sure that's fine,
but make sure that the wayyou're feeling is true to
yourself.
Okay, so now that you're there,visualize that your shield is

(14:45):
up a bubble of light, if youwill, and a sacred space where
bad vibes cannot enter.
Okay, let me know when you'redone.
I'm okay, I'm there, I got you.
I got you.
You got it.
What?
What's your bubble look like?
What's your sacred?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
space.
So my sacred space is I is.
It's kind of like a beach, umokay, and it's got a nice
hammock is it on quartz sands,like the holiday inn in florida?
It is very.
It is like it is very nice.
Sands like white sands, and um,and there's a hammock, um, it's

(15:22):
not like a super hot day.
It's nice, it's clouded, sothere's some nice shade too like
low 70s breezy yeah, yeah, it'slike.
It's like low to mid 70s andbreezy.
Um, all right, are you feelinggood?
Do you feel comfortable?
Are you feeling I am?
I got my shield too.
I in my brain.
It.
It physically came as like agolden shield of light that I'm

(15:43):
like holding and it's kind oflike wrapping around me a little
bit.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, Alright.
So now that you're there andyour shield is up, I need you to
repeat after me okay, Okay.
I claim my sovereignty as amultidimensional being of light.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I claim my sovereignty as a
multidimensional being of light.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Alright you've been calibrated.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
Oh, I thought there was a bitmore to this.
Oh yeah, brother, I expected somuch.
I kind of set you up for a bitmore you know what?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's just one of the exercises, bro.
You gotta pay for more, I feellighter.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Calibrated to a lighter dimension.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, that's because you've lost several neurons yeah
, at least, or brain cells, I'mnot really sure well, that was a
waste of time it was

Speaker 5 (16:40):
glad to be.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
No, no, no, no, you're calibrated now, yeah,
that's true yeah, the rest ofyour day is smooth sailing, my
friend um, you know at 8 30 atnight so that's just one of the
tools for killing your ego orexercising your ego.
They might say, um, I won't havemike do all of these, but uh,

(17:01):
one of the other tools that youcan use is called visualizations
.
Can you lube up your ego?
You, you can.
You can jerk your ego juststraight off if you want.
Um, but yeah, so this one iscalled visualizations and it's
just clearing negative implants.
Um, the practice of cleaning a,clearing energetic implants and

(17:22):
negative influences that havebeen attached to your body is
critical.
Uh, part of your d12 or your oh,my god, I keep calling it your
12d calibration process so howit works is the d20 calibration
yeah I know right d100, make itto level 20 um, how it works is
you'd basically visualize anyunwanted energies and then

(17:45):
basically tell yourself ormentally, like remove them using
your light energy or yourshield.
These implants can representintrusive thoughts, trauma, etc.
Basically what normal people dowhen they don't drive their car
off a cliff.
It's just like don't do that.
You can activate your innerlight by just visualizing it.

(18:07):
A lot of this is just beinglike, if you can see it, it's
just fucking positivemanifestation.
Yeah, and you also can connectwith some higher dimensional
beings.
When you're visualizing, youcan call upon these higher
dimensional beings, um, likearchangels, or pleiadians or the

(18:28):
melchizel click energy I don'tknow what that that is but, um,
pleiadians, I know that's a word.
I know archangels, I know them.
I've heard, heard about them,seen them before.
Um, yeah, so these are allthings that they say will help
you remove your ego.
The next one is called the90-day protocol.

(18:49):
This one confuses me because itseems like they've added a, a
plan inside of a plan, wherethey're like the 90-day protocol
is designed to be a structured,intensive process that aims to
help you break free from oldpatterns or reprogram your
energy field, which is literallyjust a redundant way of saying
follow these steps that we'vealready been talking about.

(19:10):
So there's that.
Keep listening to the thingswe've already said.
And one of the last things thatthe Crystal Aegis has that they
have you do is breathwork,which for the cultured people we
call that hamon, but breathwork is often used to center the
mind and body, clear energeticblockages and help focus

(19:33):
attention.
Meditation, like it's prettymuch just, it's like yoga and
stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Is this just JoJo's?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Bizarre Adventure I wish man.
Here's what I don't understandabout the breath work.
Where do I wish?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
man, here's what I don't understand about the
breathwork.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Where do I get my stand?
It's going to sound like it.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Matt, the breathwork section says you need to do it
three times a day for 10 minutesor 20 minutes once a day.
So you can save 10 minutes ifyou just do it all at once.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Just do it all at once.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You're thinking efficient, which is great, but
it's not great when you wantyour G12D Trust the process Matt
.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Have you ascended?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
yet Come on Talking like a guy who hasn't ascended
yet.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
So this website is interesting as it acts as almost
like the workout plan for justputting all of this ES stuff
into practice.
Um, if you go to the website,you can click on all the
exercises, and the exercises areliterally just like the, that
classic paragraph ofgobbledygook where they just

(20:43):
replace keywords with like howto stop hating your wife, or
like you know how to get rid ofmind control or you know it.
Just they just switch out oneproblem for another and then all
the other words are just yeah,pretty much, and they just kind
of had to go over all this shit.

(21:03):
you know I could spend way, way,way yeah, pretty much, and they
just kind of had to go over allthis shit.
You know I could spend way, way, way, way too long explaining
each and every one of thesethings, but they're all just
essentially the same shit.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Do they?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
actually mean anything, Doug.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
That's for you to decide when you ascend and you
do them, and honestly hold that,hold that question in your
heart as you're looking at allthis shit, because you might
come to a revelation about thatso one of the other things I
want to mention, too, is thatthe tools on the site are
essentially just.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
If you look through, enough of it just bring you back
to all of the other websitesthat we've already talked about
and all of the things that we'vealready.
Everything brings you back toone another because they just
want you.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
They never want you to leave their little bubble
right, it's self containedinformation and echo chamber as
you will.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, and man you know they have audio files which
lead you to the, the ESfoundation stuff, but again,
some of the stuff you have to bea member for, so we can't
access it because we're not thatcool and you can't be a member
unless somebody who is a memberhas invited you to be a member.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Weird right.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Can I go to a meeting in somebody's basement where
they show me a dildo and thenthey sell me this?
It'll?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
probably be a little worse, but yeah it does sound
like new year's, you're right.
so I was trying to think of,like how how can I see someone
who supports this belief system,right?
So I went to youtube and I justsearched crystal aegis and I
got one guy and his shit is justas weird and crazy as reading

(22:48):
any of this on the website is.
But he had a link to anotherguy called the fucking
intergalactic historian, or not,sorry, the galactic historian,
and I I'm not going gonna gofully into this, but I like this

(23:08):
guy is crazy too, like I could.
the way that all of this isinterconnected is kind of wild
and all these people just start,they just talk and they just
bullshit through their teeth andit is the craziest thing I've
ever seen.
Like I didn't know there wasthis many groups of people out
there.
I should have assumed that'signorant on my end, but like I

(23:30):
don't know how this all connectsto each other, but somehow they
do, because this guy ispreaching Crystal Aegis and also
promoting the GalacticHistorian who kind of does the
same stuff but on their websiteand it's just all a bunch of
crazy.
And I could, I literally I cutso much out of things that I was

(23:51):
going to talk about.
But uh, don't worry, I thinkmost of my stuff has summed up
exactly what you can uh assume.
Um, you'll get out of trying topractice.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
These types of spiritual healings are kind of
like so Andrew Barthes isintergalactic historian right,
barthes, yeah, yep yeah,everything in pretty much all
the sites that we've talkedabout up until now all
interconnect, they all overlapwhen it comes to definitions,

(24:24):
basic understandings, etc.
Etc.
Doug, were you all done withyour fuck?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
yeah, yeah that's all I got are you all done with
your?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
that fuck.
I think that summarized it.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I did just see that there is a conference August 9th
to the 10th for $600.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think that summarizes it.
Yeah, I did just see that thereis a conference August 9th to
the 10th for $600, or you canbuy the retreat package for
$2,000.
All right, if you want to getin on it, guys, I bet it's got
nothing on the return toAtlantis con Probably not
Fucking the holiday.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
However, that screams fire festival for insane people
.
Atlantis con, probably thisfucking the holiday.
However, that screams firefestival for insane people.
Patrons, if you see your pledgego up by like 200% for one
month total, and that's it thinkof it as a tariff, yeah it's
just fallout from tariffs, I'mso sorry.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
And then if you see a pictures of all of us at a
conference that has unrelated,okay, cool.
Well, if we're done with thecrystal ages website Tariffs,
I'm so sorry.
And then if you see pictures ofall of us at a conference that
is unrelated, okay cool.
Well, if we're done with theCrystal Ages website, you guys
want to move on to, honestly,what I kind of think is the
tying website between all ofthis.
It goes over pretty much.
It touches on everything thatwe've talked about so far, but

(25:41):
in a little bit more detail.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I have a feeling if I say no, it doesn't matter, I'm
just gonna light you on fire,okay?

Speaker 5 (25:48):
um, so we're gonna move on to a little website
called es foundationscom.
Now, es stands for energeticsynthesis.
Just as you might have expected, um, this website looks
incredibly similar to the actualenergetic synthesis website
that Matt went over.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't understand why both of these exist.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
to be perfectly honest with you, I don't know
why they both exist either,because you don't really know.
There's like a 10% of the corecontent that's outside of the
Venn diagram, and theneverything else is just pretty
much reiterated.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I want to know, if you get a login on one of these
sites, if the same login workson the other side.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I do too, because the login process is very similar.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So, since you brought that up, the first thing I
tried to do when I got it.
I'm sorry, I was onesfoundationscom and I clicked
on login and you have to providea username, a password what's
the question?
Please answer the question.
What is the third tone ofKarayasatala?

Speaker 5 (26:53):
did you know?
The answer is Y-E.
No, yay, dude, I went throughall this shit so many times.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yes, the question do you got a second cousin's dick
to get in here?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
because, dude, I went through all this shit so many
times.
Yes, the question is like nosense, wait, do you got to suck
your cousin's?

Speaker 4 (27:07):
dick to get in here, man.
My question was just what isone times eight?
All right, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
I think they already they know who has sucked whose
dick in this.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
They went super existential for us.
What's two plus two?

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Questions to think about.
So I think this gate this.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Uh, you answer five.
They let you in with the answerfour.
You're just doing what the manwants you to think is correct.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
No, you're not using your mental image man, it's just
a hyper aware ai that knows itsaudience.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I guess aliens are trying to tell you um.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
So anyway, this looks very similar to the energetic
synthesis website that matt wentover the log.
I don't know if the logins workfor both, but just like the
other website, you need to beinvited by a current member in
order to gain access to theentirety of this website.
Unfortunately I was not able todo.
I wish I was um, but you canfind the energetic synthesis

(28:05):
website.
It's actually linked at thevery bottom of the page.
Most of the things that we'veall been talking about all
linked to each other in somecyclical fashion, just like we
said um.
Now, when you go to the esfoundationscom just home page,
first thing you see is this bigwelcome page.
It says read more, you canlearn more about the site.
What is this like?

(28:26):
Why are you here?
If you scroll down a bit,there's like four article links
and they read es foundationsmission unity, vow law of one,
and then cc info or creativecommons info.
Now what mike maybe realized isthey are very, very, very big
on the Creative Commons law andwhat I've realized since we've

(28:48):
been talking about this isthat's because they want to make
absolutely sure that no legaltrouble is coming from this in
any capacity.
Now, if I were starting amovement and the first thing I
was worried about is somebodygoing hey, this might break the
law, I might reconsider myfoundations for the fucking

(29:11):
message I'm delivering.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
But so what?
What protections are theyhoping to gain from that?
Is it like they?
My theory was they're doingthat because they're borrowing a
lot of this terminology fromlike other belief systems that
have to do with.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
That's exactly it, and they, they want to be like
hey, it's all fair game, becausecreative commons they basically
want to lay a groundwork formaking something they're
claiming that has been claimedby somebody else in the past is
fair game for them to claim andnot get sued over it's basically
just free use motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I also think it's the same as like they're putting
that up there thinking you'llread that and think that you
don't have a chance to sue themLike for example I used to work
for a company I won't disclosewhich, but I used to work for a
company I won't disclose which,but they used to Make one up

(30:12):
Clean 86.
We'll call it that, and youused to be.
They had these rides.
You could go on, yeah, and theywould make you sign a waiver
Before getting on specific ones.
Spoiler alert Even if you signa waiver at an amusement park or
something, you can still sue.

(30:33):
Waivers don't hold up at a court.
They just have you sign thewaiver in hopes that you don't
sue, because you think thatSince you signed a thing saying
I give Responsibility, they hopethat you will just take that
for word.
You can take them to the courtsanyway.
It don't.
Who signed a thing saying Igive you know, I, I, I it only
for responsibility.
They hope that you will justtake that for word.
You can take them to the courtsanyway, it don't matter.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
It depends on the malfunction, but yes, you are
correct.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think don't they normally have to prove that
whoever?
Was operating the ride, knewthat this could have happened
and put you on it anyway, yep.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
And yep, and so as long as you can do that, the
waiver doesn't matter.
Uh, it also doesn't matter.
Like, for example, um, where Iworked, someone had a big chunk
of hair get ripped out fromtheir head from one of the
machines and they sued.
Because then they're like well,the waiver, and they're like it
don't matter, the waiver don'tmatter, we're going to court,
right?

Speaker 5 (31:20):
it's really, it's a deterrent, that's all it is
anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Basically, this is the new age spirituality version
of putting a sovereign citizenlicense plate on your car.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yes, they even say it in the fucking lingo, like the
whole thing is what Godsovereign and free, yeah, like,
oh, man, okay.
So we all these links, um, and,as I said, the four article
links that you look at are to ESFoundation's mission, unityval,
law of One and the CC info.
So if you click on the ESFoundation's mission, honestly

(31:54):
that's where I was drawn, simplybecause I'm like, if I know
their mission, I know whatthey're about.
Right, no, right, no, right.
I would be willing to bet witheverything that we've learned so
far.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Nothing explains anything.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
I'll let you guys tell me how about that.
Here is the Ascension missionfor ES Foundations To achieve
balance, harmony and integrationwith all aspects of self and
live life in order to maximizehuman potential, which includes
more authenticity, love,connection and joy.
To become fully soul-embodiedand actualized in your highest

(32:29):
expression and ultimate destiny,therefore contributing to your
creative genius, to the humancollective and to our planet.
In order to embody the trueself and inner core essence, two
relationships must be made apriority in order to be forged,
developed and remembered intothe light source.
The two most importantrelationships that every human

(32:52):
being has the responsibility andright to create for themselves
are one right relationship toself and two right relationship
to God's source slash, universe.
Many people will be removed fromdestructive or stagnant
relationships in order to pursuethese two most important
relationships.
Once these two relationshipsare clarified and embodied with

(33:15):
devotion, a new relationship,vibrationally matched to your
new ascending self, will emerge.
Now there's a lot to unpackhere, just simply because this
is their mission.
In their mission, it basicallytells you you will be removed
from your relationships Topeople that you think you should

(33:35):
have.
Yikes, that, that's not great.
That is not a great thing tohear.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Um, it's before you've been knowing anything
about cult right separate peoplefrom their support structure
separate?

Speaker 5 (33:51):
yeah, abso-fucking-lutely, that's what
they're doing.
They're trying to separate youfrom your current social
structures that both you andthem currently believe are
failing you for some reason oranother.
So you're both on the same pageon that Cool Check that box.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, it says that you'll be removed from
destructive or stagnantrelationships, but I guarantee
you that that depends on whattheir opinion is rather than I
want to know the definition ofthose words in context of this
sentence Right there, your mom.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
That is what I want to know.
Yeah, exactly they can.
They can.
This sentence right there, yourmom.
That is what I don't know.
Yeah, exactly they can, theycan.
It's basically like saying uh,it's like the word terrorist,
like you can fucking fit anybodyto that mold it's the abuse
they're doing here.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Thing right, yeah, 100.
Yeah, your friends are bad andyou should only you should not
right.
I'm the only person that knowswhat they're talking about, and
trust in me several times andnobody else is part of your
support structure has your bestascension ascension, yeah, um,

(34:50):
so after this, actually a coupleplaces on this home page and
I'm going to address this now weget a uh like a see more.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
And then there's, there's a couple links after oh,
excuse me, there's a couplelinks after it.
And the first one so the onesthat are there say Guardian
Mission Statement FullDisclosure Event, and when Can I
Start?
So initially I was going to goto the About Me page or the

(35:19):
About Us page and start talkingabout that, to give us kind of
like a heads up on what we'retalking about.
But oh, you know, it's allright here, just follow it in
order.
Um, so I did notice.
The very last one says wherecan I start?
The very last one that Imentioned said where can I start
?
Um, that's actually on purpose,I'm almost positive.

(35:53):
The first one we're going to gointo is the Guardian mission
statement, supplyinginformational context on
ascension dynamics andexopolitic ET agendas and
re-educating both human andnon-humans to be congruently
aligned to the universal law ofone.
This is exactly the same as thething that's on the other

(36:15):
website, and this is why I am100% convinced that this was
mostly written by some kind ofAI or some kind of memory
algorithm program well, I thinkthey're just copying and pasting
the same content on differentwebsites.
So like what, yeah, why doesthere need changing a?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
word sites where you just copy and paste every
because it's a funnel matt.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
It all follows you the same conclusion, which might
be indicative of a certain typeof organization that might be
registered on a national basisanyway yeah, I actually just
found another website and Idon't know if it's run by Lisa
Renee personally or whatever,but like there's a, it's called
the crystal star center.

(36:56):
Yeah, it's actually just afucking a French version a
French version of it.
Of all these websites, yeah,and then there's the Temple of
the Crystal.
It's just there's differentones for like different
languages and stuff it's gettingfucking nuts.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I wonder if this is like attempting to be a new
mainstream religion.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I'm on like the fifth page of Google just seeing like
what's in there for this shit.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
That's when you know you're, uh, you're desperate, um
, so anyway, uh, okay, lastlittle bit uh, freedom,
fraternity and the sovereignright of all beings to be a
knower of god source isprotected by the collective
unity vow shared among ouruniversal guardian groups.
And so that's pretty mucheverything that's on the uh do,

(37:45):
do, do, do, do the guardianmission statement page.
There's a couple other thingsyou can look at.
There's some more links.
Most of these words are linkedto other terms that you can go
look up and it takes you rightback to the Ascension glossary
that Mike was talking about,where it basically is.
That's basically like theboiler boilerplate site to go
look at to understand any of thethings that we're talking about

(38:05):
.
You will be constantlyreferencing that site and it
will be referencing itselfsometimes, and it will be, and
you will not understand any ofit.
You just think you'll read abunch of words and be more
confused.
So the next, the next thing youcan click on, is called full
disclosure event.
Now, a full disclosure eventrefers to the highest level of

(38:28):
extraterrestrial disclosure, toEarthlings that reveal the most
detailed scenarios of our true,hidden, extraterrestrial human
galactic history, and not themanipulated, negative alien
archetype version of thearchontic deception strategy

(38:48):
used to control the mainstreamhistorical records to enslave
the human population since getready for this the sumerian
egypt invasion oh shit now Iknow, that's that thing that was
talked about in the reptilianchart.
Yes, earlier oh yeah, andhonestly, you'll find this event
in most history books, um, it'sjust labeled as something very,

(39:09):
very different.
Um, most history books go overthis as the like, an unknown
event, and right after this iswhen egyptian, uh, sumerian,
mesopotamian technology Likeexplodes.
And so, looking back on history, when you look at this Event,
you don't know what you'retalking about.
It looks Very convincing, butif you Do know what you're

(39:31):
talking about, it's just kind ofLooks very convincing it also
might look very Very convincing.
It's maybe Humans we briefbeyond just Knowing about the
existence of extraterrestrialRaces, crafts and cooperative
agreements made with earthlyworld governments.
Additionally, humans will bere-educated.
That's an important word, wordagain Re-educated.

(39:54):
Fuck, where'd it go?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
So much gobbledygook.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
There's so many giant words here, it's fucking crazy.
Existence of extra crafts,cooperative agreements Okay,
humans would be re-educated toknow about the negative alien
agenda groups, secret spaceprograms, human trafficking,
mind control, transhumanism andAI agendas.

(40:23):
Dna and genetic manipulationPrograms on on and off Planet.
How earth Human resources andtechnology are being used as
bartering To trade for a varietyof off planet Civilizations and
extraterrestrial Species.
Full disclosure event includesRevealing the power elite groups

(40:43):
and negative aliens that haveabused power on Earth and are
required to restore energeticbalance to make amends with the
crimes they have made againsthumanity.
You guys understand any of that?
Full disclosure eventReeducation.
Basically it says Aliens aliensyou don't know anything here

(41:05):
we're gonna, we're gonna tellyou all the things you don't
know.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Right, that's how vague this term is well it's,
it's forget everything thatyou've learned because you've
been lied to right.
It's like, basically, it'ssaying that everything reject
the evidence of your eyes andears right, exactly so that we
can set the foundation ofreality for you exactly.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Oh my god, yes, the xes member, that's a great post.
Um, anyway, do, do, do, do, doso after we look at the uh, um,
these first two links, um, thelast one.
So we got guardian missionstatement full disclosure event.
The last one, which is theweirdest place to put this, is
where can I start?

(41:44):
And so here is what I'm goingto say.
If you guys have questions,please stop.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh, I know I'm not going to be able to because it
will never progress.
I am ready for it, though I'mnot.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I've lost my mind, and so where can I start, mike?

Speaker 5 (42:04):
You're actually the only equipped member here.
Oh yeah, because I am 12Dshield or whatever.
Activate your 12D shield.
Now again the foundationtechnique suggested again, if
you guys forgot Mantra Again.
This is the foundationtechnique suggested to use as a
protective energy shield tostrengthen and grow your light

(42:27):
body, to build the base maharmaharatra, mahar maharatra
shield of the crystals and toutilize before doing any other
types of spiritual healingenergy work or mod.
The 12D shield is an organicpart of an angelic human being's
light body that is connected tothe inner crystals template,

(42:49):
which can be repaired, activatedand used when using the inner
focusing technique to build the12D shield and ignite the GSF
three-hold founder flame.
Simple, right, sure, yeah, sojust do that real quick.
So we're preparing.

(43:10):
Activate your 12d shield blankright now.
Okay, cool, done, and you dothis as a daily practice
meditation for increasing yourunity.
You're also going to clear anynegative ego, fear programs and
devote practice to stop usingemotional manipulation.
That's actually not a bad one.
Mental discipline throughdevoted now, moment, awareness

(43:34):
and using meditation to expandconsciousness.
It's another step here.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Isn't this the same thing I read earlier from the
weird right.
Weird how your website and mywebsite look the same thing.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
I read earlier from the it weird right Weird how
your website and my website lookthe same, but different colors.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
So at this point you should probably feel some
similarities between the twosites.
It's essentially telling youthe same shit.
There's a couple other things.
Say what you mean when you sayfind a daily spiritual practice,
such as es, core, triad, dailytechniques, and um, a big one is

(44:09):
educate yourself.
You have to clear negative egoand mind control from your
system, and there's this wholepowerpoint slide that tells you
exactly how to do this.
Um, it tells you how to discerndifferent impulses within
yourself to avoid even havingthem.
It's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
And then you can go back to my website and you can
buy courses or meditations abouthow to do it.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Almost positive that those courses just use the
PowerPoints I'm looking at.
If we're being honest.
The next one says refocus yourmind.
The antidote to mind control ispsycho-emotional centering.
So center yourself emotionallyand mentally, refocus your mind,
and then we have an inquiry onattention.
Basically, what is yourpriority in life?

(44:55):
Have some self-awareness, takeinventory of your thoughts and
classify them and then put theminto two categories.
One is superior thinking, whichis through the form of
intolerance, impatience,arrogance, manipulation, attack,
anger and judgmental thinking.
By the way, that's all superior.
Inferior is worry, lowself-love or esteem, jealousy,

(45:19):
guilt, hurt, fear, attachment ormartyrdom.
So now that we have this, thismental structure to guide your
thoughts and put them into twodifferent classifications, it's
gonna ask you what your beliefsare and it's gonna go over the
the guidelines of the firsttriad of evolution phase.

(45:42):
Now, what you want to do?
Ask and inquire on the way ofyour soul and its purpose.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You got that, mike no we are, we are 47 minutes into
this already, so oh I know I'mI'm cutting this way quicker, I
lost my mind after part one oh,I know I don't think I'm going
to recoup for the rest of thenight.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
So the rest of this has to do with a combination of
elements, whether it comes tonegative ego, gsf 12 D shields
the law of one emotional pain,chakra centers, centers,
unconscious minds, instinctualminds, conscious minds, and then
insert a bunch of religiousstereotypes.

(46:30):
That's kind of what we'relooking at here.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Um, I mentioned the kundalini a couple more times,
but hoi kundalini lingui this isstill give me the form mioli
this is still the fuckingmission page.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
God, I have not clicked another link yet.
This is still the mission page,where all this information
comes from.
So this is a plethora ofinformation.
If you are interested in this,you guys still with me.
Great cause, we are gonna moveright on to something called the
unity vow.
Now, mike, you still have your12d shield up right?

(47:09):
Please, god, tell me you haveit up.
Uh, do we have to do this wholeepisode over again?

Speaker 4 (47:15):
no, it's there.
It's there.
Okay, all right, let me bustout the guideline again.
Don't give me my mantra quick,run it back.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
So this Unity vow From within your 12D shield, you
are supposed to create the hubhandshake with the Unity vow.
Great, that's the hub handshake.
Here's how it goes.
Do you guys want to hear thevow?
This might sound very familiar.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Is this the same vow very familiar.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Defenders of truth, sovereignty and liberation,
guardian families serving theone Yep.
Hey look, they relabeled it.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, I didn't read this.
This wasn't me.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
We've heard this and this has been labeled.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I read it at the end You're confusing yourself with
me and yourself with me andyourself.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
It's cyclical everybody confuses this, because
everybody, I'm sure, read thisand it's the exact same vow.
I don't know if this is longeror shorter, but it's the exact
same fucking vow on this page,on matt's page.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
That's what I was saying they're all just the same
shit.
They just put the keyword outand they change it with a new
keyword.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
And for some reason, a lot of people have latched
onto this.
So I'm going to go ahead andskip the entirety of this Unity
message, because we don't needto hear it again.
I'm going to go right on to theLaw of One.
I've already covered the Law ofOne.
I know, isn't it great we'regood there.
Here we are right back to it.
I'm making your day so easy.

(48:47):
Do you have any questions aboutthe law of one?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
what?
Who's the god?
Is it law of one?
But then in the law of one itasks who god is, and then it's
the law of one, but then in thelaw of one it mentions god, who
god is go to that.
It tells you the law of oneweird we never find out a
definition for god.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Um, I will say, the one of the last sentences you uh
, you see in this is unityconsciousness is at one with god
, and unity consciousnessignites the inner light of
christos.
We've said that word a coupletimes.
Have we actually given asurefire definition to it?
It's God.

(49:28):
What is Christos?
I'm so glad you asked, mike InJanuary 2013, Krishna.
In January 2013,.
Our planet has come to the timeof the promised return of
Christ consciousness and theexternalization of the promised
return of Christ consciousnessand the externalization of the
crystal star presence or thecosmic priest, those unity

(49:50):
conscious God.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
It's just God, the sea cook thing is, as Jason
reads, I'm like I'm certain thatwe've heard this before but, I,
don't even know where I care,or what section it's in, because
it's all.
I'm just.
I am tying together all theconcepts, that we've heard this
before, but that I don't evenknow where I care or what
section it's in, because it'sall oh, I'm, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I am tying together all the concepts that we have
basically talked about into onelike mantra, which is what this
whole fucking thing culminatesin.
Um, so the cosmic christosunity, consciousness is the
beginning to how, uh, is thebeginning now to rehabilitate
the organic timelines for theGSF Ascension timeline made for

(50:26):
preserve or preserving humansovereignty on the planet earth?
Previously, on dragon busy.
Previously, ascension had beenthwarted by the unscrupulous
groups of negative aliens in thesatanic and luciferian gestalts
that hijack the planetary logosand ley lines for hidden

(50:47):
control of forces to order inorder to genetically modify the
human beings on the earth astheir slaves and underlings.
So, yes, everything that we'vebeen talking about thus far is
correct.
This is just a way for some,some race, some species that is
way smarter than we are to tellus that they are way smarter

(51:08):
than we are by making us slaves.
That's where we're at.
Simply put, the law of one isthe universal truth that all is
one, the truth taught by christwhen the proclaimed love your
neighbor as you love yourself.
We are all direct expressionsof the one source, god source.
The law of one is an energeticreality as well as a creational

(51:30):
covenant with the founder racesall for one now you guys know
what the phone are.
We talking about my hero, yeah,the academia kind, the macadamia
nut kind.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, yeah hey, I hear a macadamia nut yeah, you
guys know the founder racesthough.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Right, obviously, like I don't think we can talk
about this not in this countryum, so what are the founder
races?
Fucking, fucking great question, doug.
Thank you for asking it.
So the founder races arecollectively known as the aura.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Go ahead, mike, you got something to say the founder
race is George Washington, benFranklin, the tons, the whites,
god, the cock asses, cock asses.
So what are?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
the founder races.
God, the cockasses, cockasses.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
So what are the founder races?
These are referred to as theOrphan, which are as described.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Okay, I wish this made more sense than it does,
but this is the definition ofthis as, according to the
Ascension, you're going over theshit that I decided to skip
because it's too much.
You want me to just no, no, no,you can do whatever you want.
I got no more left guys.
No, do what you want.
I'm just reiterating.
All this was in the Law of Onesection and I said no, thank you

(52:54):
, because there was so muchbullshit in there.
I was like I can't comprehendthat this is one of the small
parts that I actuallysemi-understood.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
I was like I can't comprehend.
This is one of the small partsthat I actually like semi
understood but also foundincredibly interesting once I
did understand it.
Order are solar, reishi, blueray.
Orders of elohim and orafimthat direct support the guardian
founder races in the lowerharmonic universe and are

(53:30):
supporting gsf liberation andthe continued spiritual
evolution of humanity towardsascension and the law of one
none of what you said makessense, and that's why I didn't
dare talk about it.
So basically, what this says isthat these orders that we
actually haven't heard anythingabout up until right now the

(53:52):
emerald order and the solarrishi blue ray order are of
these higher beings known asboth Orophim and Elohim.
You can find both of thesewords in the Bible that refer to
different tiers of angels.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yes, 100% wasn't that in that cult, shit for the cult
we talked about for Illinois orIndiana?
Or whatever the hell it was ohyeah, it's just a fucking tier
system.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
It's literally pyramid scheme.
The book like it's.
It's just a fucking tier system.
It's, it's literally pyramidscheme.
The book like it's that's.
That's where we're at right nowif I pay a hundred grand I
become fucking JC level exactlythe only other thing I have to
add about this is that theEmerald Order, or if him, have
something that we that has beenreferred to and I actually

(54:43):
didn't see too much of thissomething called Emerald Sun DNA
, which says to have up to 48strands, as opposed to what our
16.
I don't remember how many wehave what strands of what?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I've seen DNA in parenthesis a lot in a bunch of
this shit and I am yeah.
I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Yeah, yeah, I saw stuff about DNA and thereesis a
lot in a bunch of this shit andI don't even know.
I saw stuff about DNA and therewas some stuff in the Crystal
Aegis about like all thesedifferent like shield types and
stuff too that I think coincidewith that shit.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
So have fun or don't.
Very last thing I'll say aboutall this.
And then I am 100% done.
I promise we're going to goright back.
The law of one I found againsuper interesting.
The law of one is actuallypracticed by the advanced races
that Promote self responsibilityand accountability In our

(55:36):
universal time matrix, as aweird way to say.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
What's an advanced race?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Say all the advanced races out loud can you make a
tier list?

Speaker 5 (55:48):
I'm not gonna do that , doug here's for that race tier
list let's do a race.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Tier list we'll get canceled.
Ethan Klein will come for ushere's what I'll say.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
If you scour this website enough, I'm sure you
will find a tier list of races.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Almost positive, we won't be the first podcast to do
a race tier list this month.
I guarantee it that's here.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Daytona 500 race beautiful race uh daytona makes
florida so goddamn busy.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Bro got to experience that this year oh, I can
imagine, um, I'm all of this tosay that, like this, that we're
bringing back the.
The universal time matrix comesinto play here.
Um, all this fucking says isthat there are races of things
that can do things that are morethan what we can do and

(56:45):
comprehend, and then we don't dothat.
That's all this says.
Do it for Dale, do it for Dale.
There are seven practices thatyou can use and utilize in your
daily life to help you on yourpath to ascension.
I'll just briefly touch them.
There's unity, consciousness,love yourself, love others, love

(57:07):
earth and nature, service toothers, consciousness, expansion
and responsible co-creation,which sounds pretty cool
everything else you kind ofresponsible co-creation, which
sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Everything else you kind of Responsible co-creation?
You would be fucking.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Everything else that I tried tolook up required a login, and
to get a login it requires, aswe've said several times, a
current indoctrinated member torefer you and a secret question
that only you could answer, likewhat color is my?
Underwear, or how manymeatballs do you think yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:44):
What month is December in Jesus?
Christ.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
But that's really, really Like I could go over Some
more things.
Uh, the.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
You don't have to.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
The three weirdest, I'm not gonna.
The three weirdest ones NeededLog in to get to the stillness
Observation and self masterypages.
Other than that, you can goover the member guidelines page,
which is basically Like followthis shit and you get to be a
member.
What month is December?
Thursday?
Which is basically like followthis shit and you get to be a
member.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
What month is December?
Thursday, alright that's all Igot, and I need a fucking shot
so, mike, you got a little bitof information about Lisa Renee
after you talk about that ohyeah.
I want to talk about somesocial media posts.
Doug can talk about the one hewas about to talk about.
And then I got a couple things.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, doug might be able to add a little more if he
really wants to.
But TLDR on Okay, fine, that'sfine by me.
Tldr on Lisa Renee.
In 1999, lisa Renee experienceda spontaneous Kundalini event,
so a Spondelini Kundalini eventmany years ago, a
Spondeliniundalini hearing.
Many years ago, a spondylonekundalini uh.
Many years ago that cattlecatalyzed a star seed, awakening

(59:00):
to perceive multi-dimensionalrealities and communication with
the evolutionary forces oflight.
Serving the law of one.
Lisa renee has been personallycontacted and then prepared,
trained and downloaded byinterdimensional.
You've been downloaded.
You would have downloadedrecently she says that in every
single fucking interview thing,on the interview pages, page on

(59:23):
uh about being downloadedwebsite I yeah, if she mentions
it in the intro of everything,but I don't know that it's ever
actually explained what thatmeans nope, um, but anyway,
she's downloaded by internetinterdimensional beings,
extraterrestrial and ultraterrestrial, not from this
universe, known as the crystalstar and aura guardians.

(59:43):
Guided by guardians, lisa wasbiologically upgraded to be
downloaded to comprehend thescience of ascension.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
This is the law of one and its dynamics upon the
layers of that might have beenone of the dumbest smart
sentences I've ever fuckingheard in my life.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You have been upgraded to be downloaded, I
think maybe downloaded meanslike uh, she can be received by
other people like telepathicallyor whatever the fuck I hope,
because otherwise there's not.
There's a lot of that in thething I'm gonna read, okay cool
and then I believe we went overKundalini events.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
What those are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Not going to go into that.
That's all I have on Lisa Renee, but TLDR, she's a lady who had
some form of stroke or vision.
She's just a fucking person.
Yeah, mental episode in the 90sand then started charging
people for ghost aliens.
She just capitalized on the factthat she's mentally ill,

(01:00:38):
Probably yeah, she can explainit better if you go to her
YouTube, which?
Is just Energetic Synthesis onYouTube.
She explains it for you.
Just go to her house.
She has an 8 minuteintroduction to what all this is
, and that's all you need.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
You don't need all the shit.
We just said Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Take what we said she's got an 8 minute video on
it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Now the big question that we've touched on several
times is is this a?
Cult?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
For legal purposes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Some googly doodling around.
You'll find a lot of peoplethat have opinions on that, one
of which, who is most um like,most blatantly states what their
opinion is on this is uh, likedoug mentioned blue bubbles 80
doug, you want to talk aboutthat?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
sorry, real quick.
Malt uh slapping mothman's asssaid they have the answer for
what downloading is.
Uh, downloading is literallythe psychic process of
information being downloadedinto your brain so it's
matrixing, so she's available tobe psychotically received into
your so okay, so I just need toto hear this out loud.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I guess, in this context, from everything that we
just fucking talked about, isconsciousness looked at like a
software in this sense, the waythey view consciousness is that
every all consciousness isconnected, which is kind of like
the hive mind theory kind ofthing going on.

(01:02:06):
Unless you're an advancedperson, I don't think you can
access that yet and I think herteachings are how you do that
you gotta pay into a higher tierah, okay, I get you.
So it's like scientology withextra steps so, going on to this

(01:02:27):
reddit post real quick, I'lljust read the post out loud, but
basically it was posted in twospots it someone asked is Lisa
Renee a cult leader?
And underneath in the Our CultSurvivors thread, a person named
BlueBubbles80 responded.
This was four days ago, by theway, holy shit.
So ex-ES member here, Iconsider her a cult leader.

(01:02:51):
You mentioned wanting to knowabout why she stopped doing
sessions.
Yes, are you referring to thesessions she used to do back in
2012, 2013?
If so, she told the group yearsago that she was collecting
information on people's purposesand learning what she could
from it about agendas or otherthings that came up in the
sessions.
You can find snippets of somepeople's sessions on the
Ascension Glossary.
She used to say she wascollecting information for

(01:03:13):
future people to use as aresource where they could
energetically, maybe psychically, tap into it in the future.
She has a habit of using hergifts uh to use members personal
healing journeys without theirconsent for as case studies for
her material in the ascensionglossary blogs and in the group
itself.
She claims to be telepathic.
I had her mock verbatim what Iwas thinking or going through,

(01:03:33):
with specifics only I knew andhad experienced.
Unfortunately, this misled meto believe her at the time and
what I was experiencingBasically?
She was preying upon thisdude's fucking depression, or
whatever you want to call it.
I know now it was nothing moreeven remotely close to what she
was claimed with all thosebizarre accusations, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

(01:03:53):
What she was claimed with allthose bizarre accusations, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
So long story short.
This person allegedly was an esmember and left and are like,
yeah, this bitch is crazy.
Uh, long story too.
The person that posted askingif the, if this, uh, lisa renee
was a cult leader is reallyinteresting.
Like I was just kind of lookingthrough their post history and
this person who's like kind oflooking into whether or not to

(01:04:16):
join this like uh group it seemslike they were in another cult,
left it and now their friendsare joining this and they are
reaching out for informationfool me once.
Shame on you and the thing is,if you look through their post
like their long-term posts ornot long-term posts, just their

(01:04:38):
post history they're in a bunchof other subreddits for, like
you can just tell that they'relooking for some sort of therapy
or like some way to just feelbetter.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
They need to find connected to something.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Yeah, like one of the groups is uh, uh kyphosis.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
One's called long term tre kyphosis is is like the
antithesis, the alternateversion of scoliosis I don't
know, man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
It just seems like this person has really bad body
issues and they're looking foralmost anything.
That is fair.
They're posting an R slashLexus, Like you know.
They're looking for anything.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
They're trying to find some kind of connection.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
They've reached a midlife crisis and they're
looking into new agespiritualism and buying a car.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
But there's another person on one of the other
threads, uh on the uh I thinkit's actually the same thread
under the cult survivor it'scalled.
Their name is majestic broccoli, and they seem to be very pro
cult or like pro this kind ofshit and like they post a ton in
our cults and stuff like thatand like they're very like.

(01:05:51):
Oh yeah, like I I met with a uh, you know, a shaman from this
group and they I didn't reallylike it and then it's just
whatever that we're like.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Whenever I hear somebody say the word shaman or
I visited a shaman, I'm like youare going to join a cult
someday if you have not already?

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
so what I've gathered yeah that's, that's it, yeah
what I've gathered seems to begoing on here is that a lot of
this stuff is borrowed fromother New Age philosophy stuff.
Like you mentioned, starseeds,there is an R.
Starseeds.
We were going to go into someof the subreddit stuff that we
found.
Oh, I have so much information.
But this sort of thinking existsoutside of this and it really

(01:06:33):
does seem like they target andprey on people who are in those
types of communities who areinterested in finding out more
about this stuff, and then theyhook them in with, like the the
tactics that we've talked about,where, like, they provide you a
little bit of information thatonly barely makes sense, and
then you want to find out more,so you pay money to help to try

(01:06:53):
to figure out more and youprobably never actually figure
it out.
When I was googling around, Ifound the youtube video I
mentioned earlier on a postwhere, um, somebody was talking
about this and it also linked toa subreddit called res cult
survivors but it's private, youcan't get into it, but
apparently there is an entirecommunity of people who have

(01:07:15):
been part of this um and itdidn't turn out well.
I will tell you that some ofthe stuff in the youtube video I
mentioned earlier, um, ispretty concerning.
Like there is a section whereshe talks about how they have,
like, a list of approvedphysicians and to.
At least two of those physicianshave been accused of sexually

(01:07:36):
abusing female members and like.
Some of the stuff that theytalk about is even like you
accepting sexual touching fromme and stuff is like a part of
the way that you can like ascendand stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
So it's very, very concerning behavior blue bubbles
actually has a second postthat's kind of similar and talks
about some like even worsestuff.
Um as well, basically justsaying that, like the, the cult
will rewrite narratives to keepmembers compliant and passive

(01:08:11):
and stuff like that, and justlike, basically, that's just
lisa would just complain all dayand every day that like no one
was like advanced enough to likeactually like do the things
that she was like speaking aboutand basically she was just,
yeah, just keeping peoplepassive and like trying making
them do whatever she wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
So it's.
That's what it's all about.
That's all of these fuckingmantras, all of these cults, all
of these belief systems.
They all have one thing incommon, and that is taking the
emotionally vulnerable andturning them into something that
you can mold, something you canbuild yourself, and they're
going to continue to do thething that you want them to do

(01:08:52):
until they get a voice of theirown.
So it's fucking easy prey.
Yeah, it's.
I don't know these cults.
They fascinate me because ofthat fact, but they also horrify
me because of the same factthat somebody has that much pull
over somebody else like that's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
That is crazy to me right, all this disclaimer uh,
this group is not classified bythe government as a cult.
We're just.
We're just saying we think theymight be a cult, we're not
saying they are we're?

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
we are finding evidence of cult like behavior,
um we are comparing likebehavior between actual cults
that are registered on thenational cult watch list and
this group of people who seemsto be abiding by a certain set
of beliefs that might followcertain other sets of beliefs
that are on the cult watch list.
So don't sue us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yeah.
All that is to say, like ifyou're in a really bad place,
you can find support groups andcommunities that aren't this
sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Predatory Therapy exists.
They're not predatory.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
But you can also find groups.
Go on Facebook and just look upsomething you're interested in
and just find a group forknitting or something I don't
know, find a sense of belongingthere instead of something you
have to pay for to understand,because if somebody's asking you
to pay to understand something,you don't need it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
It's probably a scam, just like college.
The only cult you should bejoining is the cult of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Deludy.
There you go, absolutely.
One thing I do want to note toois there's probably a couple
people thinking that arelistening, that are like, oh,
you know, I've never heard ofthis, you know, not cult cult
before.
So there can't be that manymembers in this fucking thing.
But to put it in perspective,their YouTube channel alone has
36,000 subscribers, which youknow fucking thing.

(01:10:35):
But to put it in perspective,their youtube channel alone has
36 000 subscribers, which youknow it doesn't sound like a lot
when you see like contentcreators out there with you know
millions upon millions.
But you got to keep in mindlike colts, they, they work in
like smaller numbers a lot oftimes and you don't.
The fact that just the youtubechannel has 36 000 means that
there's probably more followersout there that just are not on

(01:10:55):
the youtube itself and even ifone percent of those people
they've like ruined their livesby isolating them from their
families and stuff it's yeah, Imean too many to put in fucking
many to put in perspective.
There's a um, there's someone Ican't remember exactly
specifically what the math is,but someone like did the math of
how many actual likescientology members there are,

(01:11:16):
and the number is only about,like it's like a hundred
thousand, which is quite a few,but it's way less than you think
.
For a cult as well known asscientology, a hundred thousand
is not to be the celebrity callyeah, it's a drop in the bucket.
And then you have this one thathas literal over a third of
that number.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah, you just haven't heard of it, but that
doesn't mean that it's not bigand it doesn't exist yep, like
it's, just because it's asneaker, as we found, as we
found like part of the agreementfor even joining is being very
hush house about what you learnon the inside so you can't tell
anyone, and the person that youare getting the referral from
has to make sure of that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
It's it literally.
It's a cascade of checks andbalances, and all of those
checks and balances make surethat the information being
shared in this group of peopledoes not get shared outside this
group of people.
Damn like that's the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Thing there's a fucking subreddit called es cult
survivors.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Yeah, it's a private fucking yeah, we just mentioned
that one.
It's obviously.
Yeah, you were exploring theroad.
He ascended a little bit there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Man, we got to get you back up no, that's fine, but
like I get it because it'sprivate, because the people in
there don't want the people thatthey used to socialize with,
knowing that they figured outthat they've been a part of a
cult or they don't want peoplelike attacking them because you
know, like it's one thing, likewe know cults attack people who

(01:12:40):
point shit out, um, like us, butthen like the people who have
actually signed up for this,like they know intimate
information about them, theyknow personal details, they know
where they've lived, they knowwho their friends and family are
, probably, and they canactually like, really do damage
to people's lives very personalemotional damage, but not to me

(01:13:03):
what are you gonna do to me?
well, well, I can tell youexactly what they can do,
because the last thing I wantedto mention was and shout out to
slapping mothman's ass so hardin the discord for posting this.
But this is a very, very longReddit post on a subreddit
called Gangstalking New yes, andit talks about First, this

(01:13:23):
concerned me a lot because thetitle is Psychic Predators
Energetic Synthesis CultTargeted Harassment, and I
started reading this and it saysI'm posting on this forum.
As it is a direct targetedharassment, some of this stuff
may not make sense because I'mpsychic.
But the targeting from this cultis real and the damage they can
cause is very real too.

(01:13:43):
And at first I was like, oh no,did these people go after
people?
Or should we not post thisepisode because they're going to
try to ruin our lives?
And then I read further and Igot to this section where, um,
it says, when you're sleeping,they actually disguise
themselves as close relatives orfriends or loved ones, they

(01:14:03):
manipulate you, even in yourdream state, and of course, they
attack you and do all sorts ofterrible things to you.
They use giant monsters oraliens or or laser cannons or
guns and try to hurt you.
They put needles and thumbtacksin your butt or they astral
rape you.
They disguise themselves aslike super hot supermodels or
people you have a crush on andhave sex with you, and then turn

(01:14:24):
into some fucking weird leechor alien, like disgusting form
in the middle of raping you goeson and on say something about
that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
That shit's fucking hilarious because of how
Ridiculous it is.
However, that shit is also thereason that these people that
are ingrained In these cults arenot getting help, because
somebody reads that and goes ohthis is fucking ridiculous, are
you kidding me?
Guaranteed, that's written bysomebody who is of sound mind,
or so they think.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I think it's more on the, so they think that's 100
what it is, but still, you makea good point that's reality to
them yeah, you make a good point, though, with like people
hiding and like like notspeaking out is, if you're going
to end up in something likethis, to begin with, you
probably have like you.
You obviously you believe thatthere's like some sort of
telepathic communication orsomething that's possible, and
so you may legitimately believeyou may legitimately believe, if

(01:15:19):
you speak out and leave, thatthey can like attack you through
your thoughts and yeah, and soabsolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Yeah, that's crazy and that's like that's the level
of control these groups haveover, over people.
And that's like the last timethat we talked about, uh, like a
real cult that we found insouthern illinois, like that's.
That's the the same temperamentthat I had then as I do now.
That shit sucks.
Don't fuck with people likethat.
Like you're promising thingsthat you can never, ever come

(01:15:49):
through on, simply because youwant to control somebody who's
weak at that moment.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Like that is, people come to you saying that they can
sell you and create you and,like you know, like lure you
into something where theypromise you you'll be happy and
stuff, and then ask for a creditcard.
Like like fuck you.
You got to be some type ofstupid to be like these are my
buddies.
Like yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
God does need my master card.
Yeah, what's?
What's your boomer?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
join our patreon yeah , call the diluted tier yeah, we
won't but the difference iswe're not telling you we'll
solve any of your problems.
We'll probably make them worse.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Yeah, honestly you will lose money in the process
yeah, so the money loss willmake you feel better, though.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Speaking of that, patreoncom, slash, dilutypod or
dilutycom.
You can go there and give usmoney and we'll use it to help
us and benefit us, and you maybetherapy for us, mainly therapy
for us but all seriousness,therapy, don't join a cult.
Therapy is great, you should goto it more often.
Mainly therapy for us.
But all seriousness, therapy,don't join a cult.
Therapy's great, you should goto it more often.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
And possibly your provider will pay for it.
Whoever you have healthcarethrough.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I'm going to go out there and I'm just going to say
what a wild ride this was.
I am mentally exhausted.
My chak that are at an all-timelow and my shield I let my
shield down for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
My 12d shield I let it down and now you have a
negative energy and now you're atargeted individual I'm a
target.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Go to our gang stalking new and learn all about
how that works the naa istrying to get me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I'm going to say you can find us on any social media
anywhere, or any site thatyou're probably on we're either.
Don't Look Under the Internetor DilutyPod.
Try Pornhub.
Even we might be on there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
I don't know, I have not looked yet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
If they are, that'd be hilarious.
Keep it up, pirated episodes ofDiluty.
Check us out If you want tosend us an email.
We're diluting pod at gmailcom.
Once again, I'm gonna say trynot to join a cult.
Try your damn just not to,because please don't, it's not
gonna be the best for you.
Cult of diluting yeah, jason,what you got say people

(01:18:11):
obviously stay fucking paranoid.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
This, when we first started this show like calls for
one of my hyper fixations, likeI thought they were fascinating
.
We have dug into enough of themfor me to know that they are no
longer fascinating to me.
Just fucking stay away fromthem.
Never, ever, ever followsomebody who says that they know
more than you and you can neverknow what they know except me,

(01:18:35):
I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
God, follow me, I am your eternal.
I'm your eternal birthrightlike the internet's dad.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
That's different anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Doug.
Well, make sure, at the end ofthe day, you put a 12D shield
around your peen, because youneed to protect it when you're
slapping someone's negativeenergy beans.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
And yeah, don't try to call it logical.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I just want to really brush that into your brain,
unless it's how you really stampit in, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Moody moody mutt cheeks, what do you got?
I think I'm going to goKundalini myself and play
Oblivion.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
You know, I hear if you take your bottom ribs out,
you can Kundalini yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Hey, Matt, you should go play Oblivion.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah, I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
And then I'm going to Kundal.
A lot of maybe in that order, Idon't know, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Well, everyone, you have a blessed day.
I'm your.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
God.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Follow me and obey my every word.
Mike's your Venus.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
He's your fire and your desire and heart.
Bye.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Did you just?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Don't look under the internet.
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