May 26, 2025 • 54 mins
This week we talk about a mysterious game from the mid '90s and the dark cloud cast over its legacy by its creator.
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Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh, hell yeah, I'll look it up.
Boys, I feel like we'redrowning in good times tonight.
God damn it.
Am I right?
I think we're drowning in goodtimes tonight.
Oh, that concludes housekeeping.
We're drowning in good timestonight.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are we drowning in good times tonight?
I think we might be drowning ingood times tonight, guys.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know what?
You said it and then at firstit didn't register.
And now I hate it even more.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know, there's other people that are drowning
Of the Jesus Christ-esquevariety.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What I'm talking about?
A drown I'm really pullingthrough right now.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's working right Butternut.
I'm talking about a drowned god, if you will.
Just one One might say I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Maybe three, who knows?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Who knows, I never finished the game.
I mean it might not be a game,who knows, we'll get there.
Rip that band-aid off realquick.
Cheers, doug.
Yeah, we're talking aboutDrowned God tonight, which is
something that doug brought toour attention and uh was nice
enough to make the outline, so Ididn't have to.
I had a.
I had a a week off, which wasreally cool.
Um, doug, is there anything youwant to mention about this
(05:54):
before we get too deep into thewoods?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
oh fuck, yeah, actually I wanted to.
I wanted to pull up thisfucking facebook group um keep
talking for a second is.
Is it Clown Girl?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Honk Heaven.
It is not.
It's unacceptable.
Fuck, you were not prepared forthis at all.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No, this just came to my head and you mentioned it.
Anyways, the aesthetic of thisgame is what I'm trying to look
for.
There's a word for it and Icannot remember what it's called
, but I'm in a Facebook group.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Did you just say aesthetic, aesthetic?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Aesthetic, it's just aesthetic homie.
Whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But yeah, I'm in a Facebook group for this certain
look of things, if that fits youbetter, Mike, Like Missed Riven
, those kind of surrealsemi-real, but it kind of
surreal, semi-real.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But it also goes to like all those like old school,
like videos and book covers andlike shit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like that I fucking cannot remember the name of it,
but find that for me because Iwas just talking to our buddy
Robbie about how this specificlike art style is like my all
time favorite.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I will tell you no, not no.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Um again, if you, if you can keep talking, mike, I
can definitely look it up.
It doesn't matter, it doesn'tmatter, um, I'll look it up
later.
But uh, yeah, this, this gamefollows like that category of
stuff, like really really well,um it.
I'm sure uh matt will put upsome like images from it and
(07:23):
whatnot, but I'm sure he won't.
I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nah I gotta play through.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Fuck you, Doug.
Oh, you know what I justnoticed.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not to get too off topic, but fucking Cum Moners is
in the Discord, the JizzWhalers the original.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Jizz Wizard.
Did I see something about thatgetting changed or did we talk
about that already?
Yeah, I think they just changedit from jizz to like.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It is just like jazz now or something that's.
That's that's great, mike weall know george lucas is
changing star wars once againerasing our history yeah so
drown god, while doug spends toomuch time looking at this thing
.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yes, basically this video game utopian scholastic
designs.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Utopian scholastic designs that's a fun vibe so
you're talking about the artstyle of like what, like those
reflective, like trapper capers,yeah, like um, like elisa, like
trapper keepers.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Like like Elisa.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Renee and shit.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Like the thumbnail of our last YouTube video.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah kind of it's just like weird shit like that.
If you look, if you just lookthat up on Facebook, you'll find
the group that I'm probablytalking about.
But either way, yeah, mike, goahead.
I cut you off.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I literally was just trying to buy time.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Thank you, please talk more.
We'll go straight into it then.
Drowned God is a video game.
As we mentioned, it wasreleased in 1996 and it's called
Drowned God Conspiracy of theAges.
It's a surreal point-and-clickadventure game that explores
some of the darkest and mostcreative conspiracy theories
that are just interwoven intothe game.
(09:06):
It's developed by Enscape andcreated by a man named Harry
Horse, which is a really weirdname to rename yourself, but
sure we'll go over that later.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Come on, sure, you can't even pretend.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I got that Harry horse brother.
So again, this game was prettyunique, even I don't know
considering for other games inthe 90s.
But on the surface it kind oflooks like a cousin of Myst, a
first-person puzzle-heavyexploration game, but it's a
really ambitious attempt tostitch together everything from
(09:46):
ancient aliens, lostcivilizations, secret societies
and occult rituals my guywatched the history channel and
was like all of it all of itcondensed, but, yeah, it's
pretty much a game that is, areimagining or a retelling, or
maybe even the real version ofhuman history, and it's pretty
(10:09):
interesting, to say the least.
Um, so the premise of it is that, um, you know, we're looking at
a fictional conspiracy that isbasically rewriting human
history as you know it.
Um that we did not evolvenaturally and that we were
probably created fromextraterrestrial beings.
Um, truth is being deliberatelyhidden, um by secret societies.
(10:30):
Um, and you kind of playthrough as an unnamed
protagonist who receives thismysterious letter from a man
named moses, and the letterclaims that this history as we
know it's a lie, and then, uh,encloses a manuscript filled
with all these like strangesymbols and warnings about a
cosmic truth long buried.
Um, and basically, this journeytakes you through four distinct
realms over three cds.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Um, atlantis that's a lot of ram, hey man yeah, riven
was nine cds.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
How many floppies is it if I get it on floppy?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
uh, it's 149.
Uh, floppies, if you want it.
Um, that's the deluxe edition,but uh, yeah, so you go through
some different realms.
Um, a lot of this story isbased off of atlantis.
Uh, atlantis, and like, uh, thelost civilization and Ancient
(11:22):
Tech and all that shit.
You'll go through Nazi, occultbases, victorian dreamscapes.
It's always Nazis.
They had such a big I'll goover it in a second but they had
such a big.
Nazis were so mystified withfucking wizardry and warlocks
and all that shit.
(11:42):
It's really fucking weird, butyeah, you'll go through that.
Uh.
Victorian dreamscapes anddystopian cyber futures um, all
of these things are blendingslike spiritualism, steampunk,
philosophy, alien tech, magic,um, artifacts, lost
civilizations, all this crazyshit, um, and you get a bunch of
history about, like the knights, templar, the I'm gonna butcher
(12:04):
this rosa crucians I don't, I'mnot super familiar with that
and then the Thule Society,which is the whole fucking Nazi
wizard thing, and then all this.
Yeah, I actually meant to lookthat up and I totally didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
so that's on me.
Is that a?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Jamaican crab.
Bobsled team actually, but yeah, so you get some really weird
shit out of this game.
And it's just, you know you, weplayed okay, so we played a bit
um together.
You'll never, and it's, it's,it's, it's rough, it's.
I'll tell you it's rough.
(12:38):
Bring bring friends bring acouple.
Yeah, you can shoot the shitwith yeah, because otherwise
it's just you and your thoughts,and that's not great.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You, your thoughts and Nazis yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But yeah.
So the gameplay style it's afirst-person exploration.
You navigate pre-renderedenvironments.
It's pretty detailed actuallyfor what they were working with
in the 90s.
It looks, it looks, I say good,but obviously it's shitty
graphics, but it looked nice forthem.
I should say there's a lot ofmotion video, full motion video
(13:15):
use that they use where you cantell they've fully rendered out
long videos for storytellingpurposes.
Right, there's lots of puzzles.
The tone, the atmosphereatmosphere is like very dark and
haunting and there's like areally weird trans, like
transient, like soundtrackhappening in the background and,
um, it's very uh, it's kind ofit doesn't really help you, it
(13:39):
doesn't hold your hand at all.
You're just kind of stuck inthis weird planet realm thing
trying to find your way through.
But there's a really goodstorytelling to it.
There's a lot of details andthere's a lot of actual like
reading and you know watchingand like actually getting a
storyline from it instead ofjust like you running around
(14:00):
doing nothing.
So that's really the basics ofthe game.
Uh, because we were playing thegame, we weren't trying to go
too deep into what's inside ofthe game, like we're gonna talk
about it, but we weren't tryingto deep, deep dive it and then,
um, you know, life happened andwe lost the whole first part of
our video.
So there was a we'll see whathappens's a point.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
There's a point while playing that game where we
literally Jason, was justreading off Google.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, do this next.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, do that 100%.
Oh my God, the strategy guideis what you needed.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You need, like I will tell you, if you ever want to
play this game, it is almostrequired to have a strategy
guide, strategy unless you havefive years of your life that you
just don't fucking care about,unless you're the biggest
autistic motherfucker on theplanet you, unless you're a rain
man mixed with fucking, I don'tknow.
Dexter, you need some form ofinstructions.
Yes, sherlock holmes, you needmanual.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
So I I was looking at buying this game on ebay and in
the pictures of the listingthat I saw um the actual book
inside of the game is like justa notebook that you're supposed
to take notes in.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know I'm not surprised a lot of old games did
that?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
The very back of that notebook has all the answers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yes, they give you all the puzzle guides in the
back of the book.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They don't spell out the answer and be like go here
and put this in.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It tells you how to figure it out and then you can
do it.
But, um, I do have a bunch oflike occult examples, uh, that I
can go over a little later, butI think we can, uh we can,
bring it on to uh our nextsection here.
Um, if you'd like matt.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
So it shouts out to the onenostalgic on youtube, the number
one nostalgic who's like let'splay.
I've been showing throughoutthis.
They have like a wholebeginning to end let's play
recorded, so go check that outif you actually, and we're
re-uploading that yeah, taketheir views.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's called fair use mike it's just this is reaction,
it's a reaction um.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So when this game came out, it was actually one of
the best selling video games inthe us.
Uh, for the first couple monthsafter it came out, I guess it
was really buggy at the time.
Some people, um, complainedthat's like hurt sales for a
little bit, uh, because thesupport wasn't very good.
I guess the actual criticalreaction to the game was pretty
(16:29):
mixed.
Some people were super into itbecause of it does have this
pretty interesting otherworldlyatmosphere.
A lot of critics praised that.
One person said that it was thestrangest, creepiest and most
psychedelic adventure game thatthey'd yet to come across.
But other people complained thatit was just like way too
(16:50):
confusing, which, if you don'thave those answers, I mean it.
The issue that I see with it islike a lot of the puzzles are
just because, like there'sdefinitely parts where you just
have to like click on things andbe like, oh, this thing moves
rather than like any actuallogical step from a to b to c?
(17:11):
Um.
So people complained about that.
People complained that therewas just like way too much going
on and that they were trying tocram too much stuff into it,
which I think those people justdidn't see the vision, man.
I think that's the issue here,and I think the people that
couldn't figure it out they werejust too stupid.
Um, and then there were peoplewho just said that the game was
(17:31):
like way too tedious, which Ithink, yep, I, I think that I
probably agree with that.
I, I don't like games that arejust like basically just to
frustrate you, which I feel likesome of the puzzles here are
meant to just frustrate youuh-huh, yeah, the isaac newton,
(17:51):
albert einstein puzzle.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, in fucking specific sorry, yeah, that fuck
that puzzle.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So stupid, yeah.
So, um, basically, it just kindof it was a little bit too
ambitious and tried to cram toomuch in and it suffered because
of that.
There was a lot of content thathad to be cut and Harry Horse
himself said that the game wasactually incomplete and that
(18:18):
there was a longer story andthat the rest of the story would
be released in a sequel calledcult.
But that never happened.
There was some content that wasapparently developed for the
sequel, but any of that contentthat still exists now belongs to
harry's relatives and we'll getit in more into why that is
later.
(18:40):
The game kind of has come backinto the spotlight a little bit
in recent years because therehave been a lot of YouTube
videos about it and about theevents surrounding the game
itself.
But even before that happened,the game did have a little bit
of a cult following.
You can go back and find oldReddit posts and stuff where
people talk about trying to getthe original version of the game
(19:01):
to run on modern hardware,which I guess is a bit of a
challenge.
And then I found a pc gamerarticle, which is actually a
really interesting read if youcan go find that just like put
in pc gamer and drown god.
But there's some interviewswith the different developers
that were on the developmentteam at the time and one of them
(19:24):
said that like even years afterthe release of the game, even
though he doesn't even makevideo games anymore, people
would track him down and contacthim and be like hey, is there
ever a sequel to this gamecoming out?
And he'd be like no, that's,it's never happening.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Sorry, he actually drowned god, tokyo drift, come
on now.
He actually did stated it aspeople contacting him from their
bunkers, which I think is alittle bit of insight into the
type of person who may be reallyinterested.
I was going to say, if you'replaying this game, that sounds
about right.
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
The sequel's called Cult Breathing man.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Crouching.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Grass, the game Breathing man Radiation.
The game was eventuallyre-released in June of last year
, so almost exactly a year agoon the Epic Game Store, so you
can actually just go buy thegame now.
But unfortunately, when thathappened, they pulled down all
of the archives of the originalversion of the game that were
(20:22):
easy to find.
Before that happened, you couldbasically you could go find
this on the internet archive orabandonwareorg pretty easily,
but those aren't there anymore.
Well, that's disappointing.
I think, the game is like $16or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now if I were to visit the Abandonware site on a
web archive um is there more tothat sentence?
Usually would that work or?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't know, because the links like archiveorg will
like it'll archive a whole webpage, but a lot of times, like
links to files, don't actuallywork, so I didn't try that so
you can't wayback machine ityeah, wayback machine.
The abandonware archive yeah,drowned God was not for sale on
Steam.
Wayback Machine.
Yeah, wayback Machine.
The.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Abandonware Archive Drowned.
God was not For sale on Steam.
It's so fucking specific Idon't know, try that out.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So yeah, that's pretty much all I got On the
background of the release Of thegame.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Hell yeah, I am not kidding.
If you guys do end up going Toscoop this and you get to a room
that shows isaac newton andfucking albert einstein, strap
the fuck out you're gonna beright now in the video or we're
just seeing.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I guess it was the worst puzzle ever that we came
across that so far yeah, discone, yeah now, oh my god.
Doug mentioned my boy, harryHorse and uh let me tell ya, uh,
did you know, doug?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
his name ain't Harry Horse, I did Mike thank you for
asking golly golly what justhappened.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know.
I'm literally sitting like overhere and Mike's just like I
need the whole table.
If my camera's not on me, it'snot on anybody.
I just want a place to put mydrink, man.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So Harry Horse was actually born, richard Horn, in
May of 1960.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Richard Horse, richard.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Horse, dick Horse.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Oh my god, we found it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
We got there so.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Richard or Harry, whatever you want to call him,
was raised on a farm in Coventry, which I have no idea where
Coventry is.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I'm starting to think this man is actually a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He might have been raised on a farm.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Grass-fed from the time he was up to shortfall.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All the telltale signs are there.
He might be a horse.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That would really play into the conspiracies about
what happens later seeing as hewouldn't have any opposable
thumbs.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There's a whole layer to this that we didn't consider
.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
He goes by He-Horse.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, it's He-Ha and that's a donkey Doug.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh sorry, you're right.
You're right, I was beingignorant.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Carry on whenever you feel like you're.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, so he was born on a farmin coventry.
Uh, his mother would often tellhim stories that there were
polar bears that would always gomarauding around the nearby
woods.
Um, obviously didn't happen,because, uh, he was not born in
the arctic, so he went to hismom and was just like there's no
polar bears around here.
And that's when, apparently,this family must be either
(23:54):
really boring or really weird,because there was a like family
phrase that came out of thisthat was just there aren't any
polar bears here, and apparentlythat quote stuck with the
family for like generations.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Everything Mike is reading sounds just completely
made up.
I know it's like when a kidasks for a bedtime story and you
don't actually have a book, sohe's like they're polar bears.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
His document's blank.
There's no word.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I actually pulled this from the Ascension's
glossary.
He's just reading anAscension's glossary.
He's just reading atAscension's Jesus Christ oh God,
when Harry was 10, he movedwith his three sisters.
They moved on to another farmwhere he basically started.
This is when he startedbecoming a storyteller.
He would always tell stories tohis sisters about how santa
(24:48):
claus would visit their farmwith the reindeer.
Um, they dubbed their.
I believe they dubbed theirfarm reindeer farm just because
of that yeah, yeah, these.
There's no critical thinkinggoing on in his family when, uh,
when, he was in school in rugbay.
So I'm assuming this guy's fromengland here's the thing I
pulled all of this.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Or Australia I pulled all this from.
He's very much from England.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I pulled all this from the Harry House
website, which washarryhousecouk Horse.
Yeah, I had a horse.
Harry House, harry House.
Eventually it's going to belike Hubert Humper, yeah, so.
I pulled all it's the UKbecause Coventry doesn't get
more English than that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
A saucer.
You're pronouncing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When he was in school .
A professor at this schoolmistakenly gave him the last
name Horse instead of Hornduring a registration and let me
tell you, richard got obsessedwith this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He's like I'm a horse , Bro.
You just gave me a pseudonym.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's just like I'm a new synonym Horse.
You just gave me a horse for aname Horse.
At the age of 13, he developeda love for cricket a little
sticky wicked up cricket and heeven won a school art prize
while he was at school.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I don't know why I thought there was a segue there,
but there Nope.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No segues here Speaking of horses.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He played cricket.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He played cricket.
Yeah, speaking of polo.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's polo.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Which is sport with horse, god, which is not cricket
?
No, but it's close, it's horseIn boarding school.
While cricket?
No, but it's close, it's horsein boarding school.
Um, while while in thisboarding school, uh, he was
apparently a very interestingboy.
Uh, to quote him, that was themaking of me, for all the wrong
reasons.
He noted that he, he noted thisin an interview while talking
(26:42):
about how he would go, uh,forging school passes for kids,
nice, he would hide Forgingschool passes For kids.
He would hide things under theschool floorboards and he would
do Other rebellious acts Becauseit was fun to do.
He was basically having afucking Goonies moment, I feel
he was Goonin.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Goonin hard.
We all had that rebelliousstage where we thought Wearing
black.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Fuck you.
You, I'm goth now yep somewherein a black hoodie.
Later in life, after school,when he grew up and became a man
, at the age of like 19 um, hestarted working as a yeah.
when he decided to hit thetracks running, he worked as a
(27:29):
solicitor for court cases.
During this time as a solicitor, he spent most of his time,
instead of paying attention tothe court cases, just doodling
and drawing away.
It was at this time he wasgetting bored of his life
choices.
He was like man, what the fuckdo I do?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I got to make a decision on what I do for my
life, oh my God, this is spot onfor this individual right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So at the age of 19, by a literal flip of a coin, he
made the decision about what todo with his life heads he would
move to london or tails in bra.
He got tails in 1981 inscotland, pretending to be his
own agent.
He successfully landed the jobworking with Canongate
(28:06):
Publishing, pretending to be hisown agent.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, so he.
I don't think you have topretend.
Well, he applied for this place.
I'm representing myself.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
He applied for this place originally and they denied
him.
So then he called up numeroustimes pretending to be his agent
, saying this kid's gonna be astar you want?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
him to be in here.
This is a job for you.
I in here.
This is a job for you, I knowright, you would be great at
this job.
This kid's gonna be a star.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And so they were finally like, oh shit, maybe
this kid's got an agent, maybewe actually should hire him on
Literally knows him.
So he landed the job because offaking it.
Fake it till you make it.
If that's one thing you takeaway from this, then let it His
(28:54):
artistic works back in hisheyday.
He started his work in the1980s doing illustrations for
magus the lollipop man, whichcrying baby, which apparently um
this and baby, baby cat.
Apparently.
Magus the lollipop man was avery successful novel at the
time, and so was the other bookthat he was working on, the Good
Golf Guide to Scotland, whichwas actually introduced by one,
(29:16):
sean Connery.
That's insane, yeah.
In 1986, he also illustrated avery successful version of Dr
Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
So he was doing work.
He was doing illustration worklike pretty regularly.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, I mean there's definitely a theme here Things
that are wildly not real.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The theme is I made it up, it didn't happen.
He went on at this point toalso do children's books.
His most popular was theOgopogo, my Journey with the
Loch Ness Monster, and it earnedhim a Scottish Arts Council
Book Award.
Yeah, it's actually a verypopular book.
Apparently it sold a lot ofcopies.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I'm sorry, what do?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
you think it cost.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
In Scotland, I don't know A fucking Tree Fitty.
He walked you to the edge ofthat one and said here you go,
mike Tree Fitty, tree, fitty,yeah.
God damn it, yeah that would beit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
He walked you to the edge Of that one and said here
you go, mike, don't get newsjump.
And you're like what?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And I fell back.
He also went.
You're like oh.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I don't know, maybe like 10 pound or something like
I don't know what kind of moneythey have in Scotland, doug, I
don't, even he also A A doublet,a doublet, that's Spanish.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He also did a series of books called the Last, which
was a series of, again, prettysuccessful book study created.
His most infamous, or his mostfamous was the Last Polar Bears.
Parking back.
We're back.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Parking back to the polar bears, but there aren't
any polar bears here.
There we're back.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We're getting back to the polar bears, but there
aren't any polar bears here.
There aren't no polar bearshere.
This was.
This is insane.
This was turned into a TV filmwith Nigel Hawthorne as a
narrator and Fucking MartinFreeman.
Martin Freeman did the honorsfor his other book, the Last
Cowboys which was featured onthe show.
Go ahead, nigel Thornberry.
Yeah yeah, that.
(31:07):
Go ahead, nigel Thornberry.
Yeah yeah, that's NigelHawthorne, I forgot who Nigel
Hawthorne is.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Let me look it up real quick.
I was so hoping you would justsay Thornberry, nigel
Hawthorne's an actor, sir.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
He's been sirred Sir.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Nigel Thornberry.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Well, when you get sirred.
Oh, he was in Demolition man,that's nice.
Oh my god, I was driving thiscar and all of a sudden it
turned into a cannoli.
That might be him.
No, that was, uh, sylvestersloan.
Oh, okay, um, anyway, what adifferent movie.
I've seen this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I've seen demolition man way too many times, never
seen it out of uh, so, like Imentioned martin freeman, who we
all know, martin freeman umalso did the honors for the last
cowboys, which was featured onthe show jaciaconori Jr.
What does that mean?
I don't know, but it soundsAustralian, even though it's a
Scottish thing.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Giaconori Jr.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I believe was a children's TV show, Kind of like
a Nickelodeon.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So there's one named Giaconori Giaconori Jr.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Giacon named jackanory jackanory junior, yeah
, okay.
In 1990 he developed morechildren's books, this time
based off of his dog rue um.
This work led him to get a jobas a political cartoonist in
scotland on sunday, which was anewspaper that he spent six
years at um as a politicalcartoonist very good political
cartoons.
He has a solid, fucking likecareer, yeah very um yeah
history he even went on to dopolitical cartoons for the
(32:30):
independent, the guardian, anduh, that says tykes I don't
think that's right um the timesit's times and times and
telegram for a little.
Yes he wanted to do politicalcartoons for the toy from the
movie the toy um.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
mom says you can have graham crackers.
Dad says you can't Vote, mom.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
His final drawings were with the Sunday Herald in
Glasgow.
Glasgow, however you pronounceit.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Scottish Brilliant, but the dude had a very
successful life here.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
This does not sound like you're about to launch into
one of our normal topics.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I was just not bad how is he even drawing?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
he's got hooves, god damn it.
No, it just.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
It literally just sounds like you're just like
describing this man's accoladesand telling everyone that's
listening like look at thisamazing individual yeah, yeah
that's the rest of the story,though, right yep, so he also
has a musical side to him, whichis fun oh, my god in 1987 horse
helped.
In 1987, Horse helped.
That's the sentence I did.
I typed it.
(33:44):
In 1987, Horse helped start theeight-person bluegrass band
Swap Trash.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Horse was on the banjo, the fiddle and lead
vocals All three.
I think it didn't really makeit too clear, if I'm being
honest.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, but I believe he did all three the band took
on one of those guys buskingright with the spoons like oh
yeah and I had a segment.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm so sorry to derail this.
I had a fucking segment inmiddle school I will never
forget this where we learned toplay the washboard, the
makeshift banjo and the spoons.
Looking back, I'm like why?
The right.
But at the time I'm like, ohyeah, we're learning music.
But now I look back.
I'm like what weren't you bornon an island?
Yeah, but I also live here nowback to what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Um, so, yeah, so, uh, harriet, like I mentioned, was
on the banjo, the fiddle and thelead vocals, I believe.
Um, the band took on this weirdamerican persona.
They called themselves themiseries from missouri.
Remember?
This is a bunch of scottishdudes.
Um, they also blended cajun andhillbilly with bluegrass again
(34:58):
okay, bunch of scottish dudes.
Um, four members of Trash wenton to form the band Shuglanifty,
shuglanifty, yeah.
Which is a Celtic fusion bandwho is actually still touring to
this day and is moderatelysuccessful.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Editor.
Can we throw that in thereright here?
Shuglanifty, All right, thankyou.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Oh, she shugged on my nifty.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Till I, till I.
Misery In 1989.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
My last bit in 1989, while performing with his band
Swamp Trash, he met a youngwoman named Mary Williamson, and
a year later they got married.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's seriously the last thing that you're gonna
leave me with before I closethis shit out is the happiest
day of these people's fuckinglives.
Yeah, absolutely.
What do you mean?
Well, it's only gonna gethappier from here that's what.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I'm confused about.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It could only get happier, happier with their
mouths open, way more open.
Oh man, I'm guessing you're alldone with your section yes, I
want you to go.
Um.
So this all up until now.
This is all sound like supersuccessful life found someone he
loved, married her, created avideo game, has a musical career
(36:19):
, has like books published, hasworked in uh design.
Like it's crazy.
The amount of experience thisfucking man has hairy horse has
is insane.
Um, but I am gonna jump alittle forward to uh about 11
years after uh, the drowned god.
Conspiracy of the ages wasreleased.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
They should try better.
They also can't look up, don't?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
look.
Harry horse in the eye he mightkick you and someone call foul
play well, speaking of foul playwhatever foul would be like
birds.
In 2007, who, both harry horseand his wife uh, were both found
(37:10):
dead in their home.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Womp womp how did it happen?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
unfortunately.
Well, originally, um, simplyand it's actually this is still
a major theory the uh, it'sspeculated to be an intruder
that came and killed both ofthem for his knowledge on
various things, on the DrownedGod and all the conspiracies
that happened throughout theages.
A lot of people speculate that.
(37:36):
Some people speculate that anactual alien came down to
silence Harry Horse because hewas giving away too much
information and it would puttheir entire civilization at
risk.
Quiet equestrian bow.
But no, on January 10th 2007,harry Horse's body, along with
(37:59):
his wife, mandy, was found with,I'll say, multiple stab wounds.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It was like 30 something, I think, wasn't it?
Or he was going to hold on tothat.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh, I'm sorry I was gonna hold on to that for a sec,
but okay, I should know better.
By this I thought you were likegod damn, you're playing it up,
mike no, I know, I know that's,that's more my fault than
anybody else's um, and so he,his body was discovered holding
his wife mandy.
Um, and, just like mike hadsaid, mandy was terminally ill
with multiple sclerosis.
I never said that, oh, youdidn't go over that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Words in my mouth.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought Icovered his artistic values and
his band.
Ok, not his, not his wife's MS.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I thought you touched on that, At the very least this
guy's wife has a monkey scrotum, he's bragging about it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wife has a monkey scrotum and he's bragging about
it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
What the fuck.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Disclaimer MS is not a joke.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Nor does it stand for monkey scrotum.
We're only laughing becausewe're awkward.
Yeah, that's honestly whatwe're at right now.
No, I'm just laughing.
I'm sorry if you have MS orknow somebody who does.
But I'm just laughing.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Sorry if sorry His wife was diagnosed, Unless there
knows somebody who does.
But I'm just laughing.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Sorry, if you have monkey scrotum.
His wife was diagnosed with MSor multiple sclerosis, or you
know, in shorthand, monkeyscrotum.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I can't take credit.
It's a family guy joke.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh is it.
It was way in the early, earlyseasons, so they were both found
in.
See, this is it says they werefound in their bungalow.
I really kind of want to knowthe difference between like a
bungalow, like a townhome or ahouse or like a cottage.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, like what?
The fuck isn't a bungalow?
Just like a one, uh like a onebedroom, like no second story
kind of thing.
Like isn't that just a reallybasic house?
Like a ranch studio apartmentof houses are you pretty much,
yeah, basically okay, I'mlearning shit a ranch for our
southwestern people or whateversouthern listeners.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
um, so yeah, mandy was found being held by Harry
Horse.
Um, both of them apparently hadbeen stabbed like 30 to 40
times.
Also all of their pets.
Apparently they had Rue that'sright, rue and there was another
animal.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
It doesn't say where, though Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
So a horse had stabbed her more than 30 times
this horse being murdered.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
No opposable thumbs.
How does?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
this work.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Hairy horse Stabbed her more than 30 times and then
killed their pets before turningthe knife on himself, and then
both of them Bled to death.
How?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
many times was he stabbed.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
It does not say this part doesn't hold on.
Let me find the other article.
I have like five I'll.
If I see it in the other onethat I'm about to jump to, I'll
correct myself.
Um, do, do, do, do, do.
Apparently, an actor named TamDean Byrne I have no idea who
the fuck that is um apparentlymade a radio tribute to him and
said in 2000 uh, in 2009, afterspeaking with this is such a
(41:06):
wild sentence after speakingwith horses, female relatives
that a 2008 report was a crueldistortion.
Is believed that the death wasa murder and not a suicide, with
the witness testimonies and thedoor to his home was open when
the bodies were found, which,yeah, it's suggestive, but I
(41:28):
don't know.
Um, all the the finalconclusion after going through
all the evidence, was that thiswas a murder, suicide, according
to authorities.
Um, however you want to takethat, you can, but a lot, lot
more conspiratorial mindedindividuals think that this was
absolutely a murder, murder andthen covered up by some
(41:50):
institution, governmental agencyor something to stop him from
continuing to share theinformation that was in the
Drowned God, because he did planon coming out with a sequel
called cult and then never gotaround to doing that, and before
he actually could start, it wastoo much and then he died.
Um, so that is, that's the, the,the big event that stopped
(42:15):
anything Harry horse relatedfrom coming out?
Um, musically, book wise any,uh, conspiratorial,
conspiratorially, anything likethat.
Um, book wise any,conspiratorially, anything like
that.
Um, so let's talk about uh, the, uh, oh, right, right, right, I
have an actual, um an accountof this.
Give me one sec, I gottafucking find how did we miss the
(42:36):
real quick?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
did you talk about the suicide pact part of this
whole thing?
Yeah, so, basically, um, thestory goes that they uh, so for
the 10 years where she had herms diagnosis, um, people noticed
that henry was going like likespiraling, like bad, like he was
not doing well because this wasthe love of his life, he was
(43:01):
his mute, she was his muse, likethat.
That was like his reason forliving and basically, um, if
this, like they were, basicallysaid that if when she died, he
had no reason to live anymoreand that he would die along with
her, and so that's a big, bigconspiracy around this whole
thing, is that they think thathe I mean the whole thing is
(43:23):
okay.
Yeah, they said that they tooka bunch of pills and overdosed
and died, but the autopsy saysmuch different.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
There was nothing in his system that would suggest an
overdose, uh, not to mentionthey clearly died from a bunch
of stab wounds, um, and uh, thisleads into a bunch of other 100
and actually, uh, there's a um,there's a post on reddit that
goes over this whole, like the,not only like what's released on
(43:52):
by the authorities or like whatyou can find on wikipedia or
something like that.
It also goes over the, thealternate thought process of the
whole thing and, um, it said so.
One of the things in this postsays on the night of january 9th
2007, harry snapped and,apparently, like they had been
talking about the success ofdrown god and like thinking
(44:13):
about doing another one um, andhere's what.
Here's what the, the snippetfrom one of the articles says.
It says that evening, harry andmandy had their last visitors,
two brothers from New Zealand,as relayed by Williamson.
Harry was in a demented stateroaming the house and
proclaiming it's a wonderfulknife.
God damn it, wonderful knife.
It's a wonderful night for akilling.
(44:34):
Mandy was distressed and didnot want one of the friends to
leave.
At 940 the next morning, january10th, the friends came back to
retrieve an item of clothing.
The front door was unlocked andopen, so they pushed it and
inside they saw the bodies ofHarry and Mandy lying close
together on Mandy's bed.
There was blood on the floor,windows and walls.
(44:54):
Harry, so it proved hadbutchered Mandy to death with a
knife.
By the medical examiner's count, he had stabbed Mandy more than
30 times, fetching a secondknife after breaking the first
inside her.
He then turned the knife onhimself, crisscrossing his arms
with cuts and mutilating hisgenitals 47 wounds in all.
The death certificate's recordthat both died of exsanguination
(45:20):
because he'd failed to delivera lethal blow.
Both had bled to death.
As a final token of horror, healso killed their dog, a
chihuahua Mandy liked to cuddle,and their cat.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
The fuck.
It's fucking wild.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
What the fuck it should probably also be noted
that, like even way before thishappened, basically everyone
that he had ever worked with hadmentioned that he was prone.
He was generally a really niceguy, but like was prone to just
these really strange outburstsof anger that just seemed to
come from nowhere.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Like he just go from like zero to 100 real fucking
fast on, like anybody for anyreason since, since we're on the
speculation part of this train,um, I will say that one of the
newer conspiracy of this train,I will say that one of the newer
conspiracy theories is do youguys remember that the show on
Netflix Bandersnatch like theinteractive Black Mirror episode
?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
yeah, they're taking that down.
However it's.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
A lot of people think that that whole experience was
literally based off of thisstory and if you go through and
you go through Bandersnatch,it's not too far-fetched, like
you can definitely see it.
It's multiple endings.
I haven't gone through it.
Yeah, it's, I've been throughit twice I think, and it's.
(46:36):
I can see that I would needmore information about it, but
it's, I think that's a coolconnection that fucking
bandersnatch literally took thisvery niche like story and made
something of it and made a wholeinteractive web series about it
.
Does it suck that none of theoriginal members that were like
(46:57):
this was based off were credited?
Absolutely.
Does it suck that this storywas not shared?
Absolutely.
Does it suck that this tragedywas not shared with everybody
also?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
yes, I've gone through it and I kind of see
that there's like a leaddeveloper on the game that is
like kind of crazy and doesweird shit.
Yep I mean it is, it would haveto be very loosely based on
this loosely based yes.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
But like after I read that I was like actually, yeah,
I can, I can kind of see that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
I think the thing in this whole thing that fucks me
up is if they, if he had 30 plusstab wounds to himself, how is
consciously doing that?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
that was like they're small.
None of them were lethal.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
It said 47 in all is that?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
just him him.
Total on him it was her.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Her was over 30, himself was over 47 you know the
thing about this that is weirdto me a hell of a drug.
That's weird to me about allthis is a fucking horse.
You know there's no we'redefinitely
Speaker 3 (47:59):
are you telling me a horse stabbed.
These people like.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
I would fuck wild like yeah, it's a really, it's a
really bizarre story, and wedon't typically cover like, uh,
you know that kind of shit, butwe like to avoid the real shit.
Yeah, we do, and we also it issad we're not true crimers feels
(48:24):
like a derogatory sentence, but, um, but no, it's, it's uh, the
the fact that the game is sobizarre and, like the, the story
leading up to it's so bizarre,or like, I guess, not leading up
, but leading after.
Post pleasant beginning.
Yeah, um, it's just all weird.
I thought it was a nice littledeviance from what we normally
(48:45):
talk about.
Um, and hopefully, maybepotentially we'll have some
gameplay up on our youtube.
Um, it might be out of order,though, because we're probably
not going to replay thebeginning.
Um, we'll, we'll animate it onstick figures.
Yeah, we'll, we'll recap,although I hear the last half is
like way weirder.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Oh yeah, that's all weird.
I think that the first what wewent through was pretty fucking
normal and tame compared to therest of the game, I think yeah,
I've seen a good handful of thegameplay and I was like I didn't
see any of that shit.
So, um, yeah, I also refuse todo the fucking new Einstein.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
No, I would kill myself before I do that again.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Fucking Christ.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Well, saddle up because we're playing it again.
God damn it.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Saddle up bitches At some point.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Honestly, I don't really have much else to add to
this other than, like Doug saidwe don't really Alright real or
fake.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Actually, that's a good question.
Do we think that Harry Horstbased his game off of a real set
of knowledge that he eitherfound, discovered or was given?
Or do we think the document heused to base all of this stuff
off of was forged and fake?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
That's the thing.
I forgot to write it down in mybit, but I'll mention it real
quick as well.
I forget the detailsspecifically, but he created
this, this like book.
It was a manuscript.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It's a forged manuscript.
It was in 1983.
He forged.
A man forged this.
What this article says isforged.
He says that he found it, sayshe forged a manuscript based on
writings by 19th century poetRichard Henry Horn, who he'd be
related to, which is his name.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, so I think he's just a good author.
I mean, he has the background.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
It was supposed to be a joke was initially or a hoax,
Like he wrote this thing andthen tried to pass it off as
like a legit thing that he foundand then eventually he admitted
that it was fake.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
he was like yeah, I made this up yeah, I don't think
it's based off of any wildconspiracy.
I think he just he's just agood storyteller was a good
storyteller.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
I mean he's basing them off of real conspiracies
that are like obviously theconspiracies themselves are not
real or could be real, but likealso if you look at that game if
you look at that fucking game,none of it really makes any
sense.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
There is a point where you, when you were playing
, you literally teleportedthrough Stonehenge to some weird
castle you rode a river, yourode a river up to some guy who
was like an old, like, whokilled you like five times.
It was like a holy grail kingarthur dude who wanted to play
chess, but it was fire chess,and then you were in fucking
(51:32):
like da vinci's lair with arobot like it.
I think it was just a bunch ofweird shit just thrown together
because, at I mean, there wasthe, it was the mid 90s.
That's just how games fuckingwere.
Games were just throwing shitat the fan and seeing what
sticks not far off honestly,this is the cooler version of
history oh yeah, I prefer realyeah
Speaker 3 (51:55):
real history is a little boring right, dude, real
life is boring like this shit'sway bigger, give me fucking
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I just thought about that.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Straight up.
Forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Can't believe you guys fucking lost that I'll just
come down and beat your ass.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Watch, we're gonna find it literally after we hang
up.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and say if you're a horse,
you probably shouldn't killpeople.
Jason, what do you got to say?
I don't know, man stay paranoid, as always about a man who's
coming to find you, named joeblob.
Be aware of this.
Mayor, matt, what do you got tosay?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
if you're not a horse , maybe you should kill people
have you tried?
Speaker 4 (53:21):
hug d, what do you have?
Slap your hairy horse againstyour monkey scrotum there it is
if you want the whole episode inone sentence.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
There you go thank you for tuning in.
Everybody have a blessed day.
May the horse be with you, bye,bye.
Thank you, hell.
You're recording now, hello ohwait, hold on all right hello
everybody, welcome to your mom'sfavorite show don't look under
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This is one of our mom's favorite shows.
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This is more of your annoyinglittle brother's show.
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parents to listen to this show.
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Or jizzard which again is the abbreviation of
jizz wizard.
Yeah, we are educational aswell.
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Yeah, exactly On this podcast.
Don't Look Under the Internet.
We're an internet horror comedypodcast and we do it just as
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I'm here with my co-host, asusual, jason.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I don't think so.
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My other co-host, as usual, doug.
Hey Hi, my other co-host, asusual, doug.
Hey Hi, my other co-host, asusual, matt.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I do it just as well as you would expect.
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Mike, I need to get back.
I'm trying to go for a retrothing.
I'm not trying to go for it now, but I want to get back into a
retro thing of getting thefucking puns back.
You gotta bring TMZ back, bro.
Tmz like getting the fuckinglike puns back.
Remember when I had the wholeyou gotta bring TMZ back.
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Tmz, yeah, that's what I mean we stopped doing TMZ
because you were killing people, but I'm thinking we can use
this power for good, so reallyonly one person to housekeep
here thought that was a Mattthing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It wasn't, it was my daughter is it Matt or Amelia?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
your daughter hit the floor.
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She does it constantly.
She's two.
We have a couple on our thesecond tower.
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one where he's talking about thehot dogs and shit and like, oh
my god, yeah, yeah?
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fucking alley.
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Yeah, I don't even remember what it's called or who
did it or anything, but we gotto find it because you would
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After the show OC, deep fake,we also have Murray Malone.
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Didn't understand theassignment, but all right.
And then we have Diana Tempest,kind of a cold name, not going
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That's the name of an X-Men.
I'm pretty sure it does soundlike an X-Men that can make
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Trump hit us with tariffs onpristine entertainment.
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They put a 69% tariff on it.
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on buttered sausage?
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We don't want to talk about buttered sausage.
I I put that video in the chat,by the way.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh, hell yeah, I'll look it up.
Boys, I feel like we'redrowning in good times tonight.
God damn it.
Am I right?
I think we're drowning in goodtimes tonight.
Oh, that concludes housekeeping.
We're drowning in good timestonight.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are we drowning in good times tonight?
I think we might be drowning ingood times tonight, guys.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know what?
You said it and then at firstit didn't register.
And now I hate it even more.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know, there's other people that are drowning
Of the Jesus Christ-esquevariety.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What I'm talking about?
A drown I'm really pullingthrough right now.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's working right Butternut.
I'm talking about a drowned god, if you will.
Just one One might say I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Maybe three, who knows?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Who knows, I never finished the game.
I mean it might not be a game,who knows, we'll get there.
Rip that band-aid off realquick.
Cheers, doug.
Yeah, we're talking aboutDrowned God tonight, which is
something that doug brought toour attention and uh was nice
enough to make the outline, so Ididn't have to.
I had a.
I had a a week off, which wasreally cool.
Um, doug, is there anything youwant to mention about this
(05:54):
before we get too deep into thewoods?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
oh fuck, yeah, actually I wanted to.
I wanted to pull up thisfucking facebook group um keep
talking for a second is.
Is it Clown Girl?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Honk Heaven.
It is not.
It's unacceptable.
Fuck, you were not prepared forthis at all.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No, this just came to my head and you mentioned it.
Anyways, the aesthetic of thisgame is what I'm trying to look
for.
There's a word for it and Icannot remember what it's called
, but I'm in a Facebook group.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Did you just say aesthetic, aesthetic?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Aesthetic, it's just aesthetic homie.
Whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But yeah, I'm in a Facebook group for this certain
look of things, if that fits youbetter, Mike, Like Missed Riven
, those kind of surrealsemi-real, but it kind of
surreal, semi-real.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But it also goes to like all those like old school,
like videos and book covers andlike shit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like that I fucking cannot remember the name of it,
but find that for me because Iwas just talking to our buddy
Robbie about how this specificlike art style is like my all
time favorite.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I will tell you no, not no.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Um again, if you, if you can keep talking, mike, I
can definitely look it up.
It doesn't matter, it doesn'tmatter, um, I'll look it up
later.
But uh, yeah, this, this gamefollows like that category of
stuff, like really really well,um it.
I'm sure uh matt will put upsome like images from it and
(07:23):
whatnot, but I'm sure he won't.
I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nah I gotta play through.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Fuck you, Doug.
Oh, you know what I justnoticed.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not to get too off topic, but fucking Cum Moners is
in the Discord, the JizzWhalers the original.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Jizz Wizard.
Did I see something about thatgetting changed or did we talk
about that already?
Yeah, I think they just changedit from jizz to like.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It is just like jazz now or something that's.
That's that's great, mike weall know george lucas is
changing star wars once againerasing our history yeah so
drown god, while doug spends toomuch time looking at this thing
.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yes, basically this video game utopian scholastic
designs.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Utopian scholastic designs that's a fun vibe so
you're talking about the artstyle of like what, like those
reflective, like trapper capers,yeah, like um, like elisa, like
trapper keepers.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Like like Elisa.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Renee and shit.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Like the thumbnail of our last YouTube video.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah kind of it's just like weird shit like that.
If you look, if you just lookthat up on Facebook, you'll find
the group that I'm probablytalking about.
But either way, yeah, mike, goahead.
I cut you off.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I literally was just trying to buy time.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Thank you, please talk more.
We'll go straight into it then.
Drowned God is a video game.
As we mentioned, it wasreleased in 1996 and it's called
Drowned God Conspiracy of theAges.
It's a surreal point-and-clickadventure game that explores
some of the darkest and mostcreative conspiracy theories
that are just interwoven intothe game.
(09:06):
It's developed by Enscape andcreated by a man named Harry
Horse, which is a really weirdname to rename yourself, but
sure we'll go over that later.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Come on, sure, you can't even pretend.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I got that Harry horse brother.
So again, this game was prettyunique, even I don't know
considering for other games inthe 90s.
But on the surface it kind oflooks like a cousin of Myst, a
first-person puzzle-heavyexploration game, but it's a
really ambitious attempt tostitch together everything from
(09:46):
ancient aliens, lostcivilizations, secret societies
and occult rituals my guywatched the history channel and
was like all of it all of itcondensed, but, yeah, it's
pretty much a game that is, areimagining or a retelling, or
maybe even the real version ofhuman history, and it's pretty
(10:09):
interesting, to say the least.
Um, so the premise of it is that, um, you know, we're looking at
a fictional conspiracy that isbasically rewriting human
history as you know it.
Um that we did not evolvenaturally and that we were
probably created fromextraterrestrial beings.
Um, truth is being deliberatelyhidden, um by secret societies.
(10:30):
Um, and you kind of playthrough as an unnamed
protagonist who receives thismysterious letter from a man
named moses, and the letterclaims that this history as we
know it's a lie, and then, uh,encloses a manuscript filled
with all these like strangesymbols and warnings about a
cosmic truth long buried.
Um, and basically, this journeytakes you through four distinct
realms over three cds.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Um, atlantis that's a lot of ram, hey man yeah, riven
was nine cds.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
How many floppies is it if I get it on floppy?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
uh, it's 149.
Uh, floppies, if you want it.
Um, that's the deluxe edition,but uh, yeah, so you go through
some different realms.
Um, a lot of this story isbased off of atlantis.
Uh, atlantis, and like, uh, thelost civilization and Ancient
(11:22):
Tech and all that shit.
You'll go through Nazi, occultbases, victorian dreamscapes.
It's always Nazis.
They had such a big I'll goover it in a second but they had
such a big.
Nazis were so mystified withfucking wizardry and warlocks
and all that shit.
(11:42):
It's really fucking weird, butyeah, you'll go through that.
Uh.
Victorian dreamscapes anddystopian cyber futures um, all
of these things are blendingslike spiritualism, steampunk,
philosophy, alien tech, magic,um, artifacts, lost
civilizations, all this crazyshit, um, and you get a bunch of
history about, like the knights, templar, the I'm gonna butcher
(12:04):
this rosa crucians I don't, I'mnot super familiar with that
and then the Thule Society,which is the whole fucking Nazi
wizard thing, and then all this.
Yeah, I actually meant to lookthat up and I totally didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
so that's on me.
Is that a?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Jamaican crab.
Bobsled team actually, but yeah, so you get some really weird
shit out of this game.
And it's just, you know you, weplayed okay, so we played a bit
um together.
You'll never, and it's, it's,it's, it's rough, it's.
I'll tell you it's rough.
(12:38):
Bring bring friends bring acouple.
Yeah, you can shoot the shitwith yeah, because otherwise
it's just you and your thoughts,and that's not great.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You, your thoughts and Nazis yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But yeah.
So the gameplay style it's afirst-person exploration.
You navigate pre-renderedenvironments.
It's pretty detailed actuallyfor what they were working with
in the 90s.
It looks, it looks, I say good,but obviously it's shitty
graphics, but it looked nice forthem.
I should say there's a lot ofmotion video, full motion video
(13:15):
use that they use where you cantell they've fully rendered out
long videos for storytellingpurposes.
Right, there's lots of puzzles.
The tone, the atmosphereatmosphere is like very dark and
haunting and there's like areally weird trans, like
transient, like soundtrackhappening in the background and,
um, it's very uh, it's kind ofit doesn't really help you, it
(13:39):
doesn't hold your hand at all.
You're just kind of stuck inthis weird planet realm thing
trying to find your way through.
But there's a really goodstorytelling to it.
There's a lot of details andthere's a lot of actual like
reading and you know watchingand like actually getting a
storyline from it instead ofjust like you running around
(14:00):
doing nothing.
So that's really the basics ofthe game.
Uh, because we were playing thegame, we weren't trying to go
too deep into what's inside ofthe game, like we're gonna talk
about it, but we weren't tryingto deep, deep dive it and then,
um, you know, life happened andwe lost the whole first part of
our video.
So there was a we'll see whathappens's a point.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
There's a point while playing that game where we
literally Jason, was justreading off Google.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, do this next.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, do that 100%.
Oh my God, the strategy guideis what you needed.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You need, like I will tell you, if you ever want to
play this game, it is almostrequired to have a strategy
guide, strategy unless you havefive years of your life that you
just don't fucking care about,unless you're the biggest
autistic motherfucker on theplanet you, unless you're a rain
man mixed with fucking, I don'tknow.
Dexter, you need some form ofinstructions.
Yes, sherlock holmes, you needmanual.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
So I I was looking at buying this game on ebay and in
the pictures of the listingthat I saw um the actual book
inside of the game is like justa notebook that you're supposed
to take notes in.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know I'm not surprised a lot of old games did
that?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
The very back of that notebook has all the answers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yes, they give you all the puzzle guides in the
back of the book.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They don't spell out the answer and be like go here
and put this in.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It tells you how to figure it out and then you can
do it.
But, um, I do have a bunch oflike occult examples, uh, that I
can go over a little later, butI think we can, uh we can,
bring it on to uh our nextsection here.
Um, if you'd like matt.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
So it shouts out to the onenostalgic on youtube, the number
one nostalgic who's like let'splay.
I've been showing throughoutthis.
They have like a wholebeginning to end let's play
recorded, so go check that outif you actually, and we're
re-uploading that yeah, taketheir views.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's called fair use mike it's just this is reaction,
it's a reaction um.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So when this game came out, it was actually one of
the best selling video games inthe us.
Uh, for the first couple monthsafter it came out, I guess it
was really buggy at the time.
Some people, um, complainedthat's like hurt sales for a
little bit, uh, because thesupport wasn't very good.
I guess the actual criticalreaction to the game was pretty
(16:29):
mixed.
Some people were super into itbecause of it does have this
pretty interesting otherworldlyatmosphere.
A lot of critics praised that.
One person said that it was thestrangest, creepiest and most
psychedelic adventure game thatthey'd yet to come across.
But other people complained thatit was just like way too
(16:50):
confusing, which, if you don'thave those answers, I mean it.
The issue that I see with it islike a lot of the puzzles are
just because, like there'sdefinitely parts where you just
have to like click on things andbe like, oh, this thing moves
rather than like any actuallogical step from a to b to c?
(17:11):
Um.
So people complained about that.
People complained that therewas just like way too much going
on and that they were trying tocram too much stuff into it,
which I think those people justdidn't see the vision, man.
I think that's the issue here,and I think the people that
couldn't figure it out they werejust too stupid.
Um, and then there were peoplewho just said that the game was
(17:31):
like way too tedious, which Ithink, yep, I, I think that I
probably agree with that.
I, I don't like games that arejust like basically just to
frustrate you, which I feel likesome of the puzzles here are
meant to just frustrate youuh-huh, yeah, the isaac newton,
(17:51):
albert einstein puzzle.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, in fucking specific sorry, yeah, that fuck
that puzzle.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So stupid, yeah.
So, um, basically, it just kindof it was a little bit too
ambitious and tried to cram toomuch in and it suffered because
of that.
There was a lot of content thathad to be cut and Harry Horse
himself said that the game wasactually incomplete and that
(18:18):
there was a longer story andthat the rest of the story would
be released in a sequel calledcult.
But that never happened.
There was some content that wasapparently developed for the
sequel, but any of that contentthat still exists now belongs to
harry's relatives and we'll getit in more into why that is
later.
(18:40):
The game kind of has come backinto the spotlight a little bit
in recent years because therehave been a lot of YouTube
videos about it and about theevents surrounding the game
itself.
But even before that happened,the game did have a little bit
of a cult following.
You can go back and find oldReddit posts and stuff where
people talk about trying to getthe original version of the game
(19:01):
to run on modern hardware,which I guess is a bit of a
challenge.
And then I found a pc gamerarticle, which is actually a
really interesting read if youcan go find that just like put
in pc gamer and drown god.
But there's some interviewswith the different developers
that were on the developmentteam at the time and one of them
(19:24):
said that like even years afterthe release of the game, even
though he doesn't even makevideo games anymore, people
would track him down and contacthim and be like hey, is there
ever a sequel to this gamecoming out?
And he'd be like no, that's,it's never happening.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Sorry, he actually drowned god, tokyo drift, come
on now.
He actually did stated it aspeople contacting him from their
bunkers, which I think is alittle bit of insight into the
type of person who may be reallyinterested.
I was going to say, if you'replaying this game, that sounds
about right.
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
The sequel's called Cult Breathing man.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Crouching.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Grass, the game Breathing man Radiation.
The game was eventuallyre-released in June of last year
, so almost exactly a year agoon the Epic Game Store, so you
can actually just go buy thegame now.
But unfortunately, when thathappened, they pulled down all
of the archives of the originalversion of the game that were
(20:22):
easy to find.
Before that happened, you couldbasically you could go find
this on the internet archive orabandonwareorg pretty easily,
but those aren't there anymore.
Well, that's disappointing.
I think, the game is like $16or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now if I were to visit the Abandonware site on a
web archive um is there more tothat sentence?
Usually would that work or?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't know, because the links like archiveorg will
like it'll archive a whole webpage, but a lot of times, like
links to files, don't actuallywork, so I didn't try that so
you can't wayback machine ityeah, wayback machine.
The abandonware archive yeah,drowned God was not for sale on
Steam.
Wayback Machine.
Yeah, wayback Machine.
The.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Abandonware Archive Drowned.
God was not For sale on Steam.
It's so fucking specific Idon't know, try that out.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So yeah, that's pretty much all I got On the
background of the release Of thegame.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Hell yeah, I am not kidding.
If you guys do end up going Toscoop this and you get to a room
that shows isaac newton andfucking albert einstein, strap
the fuck out you're gonna beright now in the video or we're
just seeing.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I guess it was the worst puzzle ever that we came
across that so far yeah, discone, yeah now, oh my god.
Doug mentioned my boy, harryHorse and uh let me tell ya, uh,
did you know, doug?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
his name ain't Harry Horse, I did Mike thank you for
asking golly golly what justhappened.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know.
I'm literally sitting like overhere and Mike's just like I
need the whole table.
If my camera's not on me, it'snot on anybody.
I just want a place to put mydrink, man.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So Harry Horse was actually born, richard Horn, in
May of 1960.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Richard Horse, richard.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Horse, dick Horse.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Oh my god, we found it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
We got there so.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Richard or Harry, whatever you want to call him,
was raised on a farm in Coventry, which I have no idea where
Coventry is.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I'm starting to think this man is actually a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He might have been raised on a farm.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Grass-fed from the time he was up to shortfall.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All the telltale signs are there.
He might be a horse.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That would really play into the conspiracies about
what happens later seeing as hewouldn't have any opposable
thumbs.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There's a whole layer to this that we didn't consider
.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
He goes by He-Horse.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, it's He-Ha and that's a donkey Doug.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh sorry, you're right.
You're right, I was beingignorant.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Carry on whenever you feel like you're.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, so he was born on a farmin coventry.
Uh, his mother would often tellhim stories that there were
polar bears that would always gomarauding around the nearby
woods.
Um, obviously didn't happen,because, uh, he was not born in
the arctic, so he went to hismom and was just like there's no
polar bears around here.
And that's when, apparently,this family must be either
(23:54):
really boring or really weird,because there was a like family
phrase that came out of thisthat was just there aren't any
polar bears here, and apparentlythat quote stuck with the
family for like generations.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Everything Mike is reading sounds just completely
made up.
I know it's like when a kidasks for a bedtime story and you
don't actually have a book, sohe's like they're polar bears.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
His document's blank.
There's no word.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I actually pulled this from the Ascension's
glossary.
He's just reading anAscension's glossary.
He's just reading atAscension's Jesus Christ oh God,
when Harry was 10, he movedwith his three sisters.
They moved on to another farmwhere he basically started.
This is when he startedbecoming a storyteller.
He would always tell stories tohis sisters about how santa
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claus would visit their farmwith the reindeer.
Um, they dubbed their.
I believe they dubbed theirfarm reindeer farm just because
of that yeah, yeah, these.
There's no critical thinkinggoing on in his family when, uh,
when, he was in school in rugbay.
So I'm assuming this guy's fromengland here's the thing I
pulled all of this.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Or Australia I pulled all this from.
He's very much from England.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I pulled all this from the Harry House
website, which washarryhousecouk Horse.
Yeah, I had a horse.
Harry House, harry House.
Eventually it's going to belike Hubert Humper, yeah, so.
I pulled all it's the UKbecause Coventry doesn't get
more English than that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
A saucer.
You're pronouncing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When he was in school .
A professor at this schoolmistakenly gave him the last
name Horse instead of Hornduring a registration and let me
tell you, richard got obsessedwith this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He's like I'm a horse , Bro.
You just gave me a pseudonym.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's just like I'm a new synonym Horse.
You just gave me a horse for aname Horse.
At the age of 13, he developeda love for cricket a little
sticky wicked up cricket and heeven won a school art prize
while he was at school.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I don't know why I thought there was a segue there,
but there Nope.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No segues here Speaking of horses.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He played cricket.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
He played cricket.
Yeah, speaking of polo.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's polo.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Which is sport with horse, god, which is not cricket
?
No, but it's close, it's horseIn boarding school.
While cricket?
No, but it's close, it's horsein boarding school.
Um, while while in thisboarding school, uh, he was
apparently a very interestingboy.
Uh, to quote him, that was themaking of me, for all the wrong
reasons.
He noted that he, he noted thisin an interview while talking
(26:42):
about how he would go, uh,forging school passes for kids,
nice, he would hide Forgingschool passes For kids.
He would hide things under theschool floorboards and he would
do Other rebellious acts Becauseit was fun to do.
He was basically having afucking Goonies moment, I feel
he was Goonin.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Goonin hard.
We all had that rebelliousstage where we thought Wearing
black.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Fuck you.
You, I'm goth now yep somewherein a black hoodie.
Later in life, after school,when he grew up and became a man
, at the age of like 19 um, hestarted working as a yeah.
when he decided to hit thetracks running, he worked as a
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solicitor for court cases.
During this time as a solicitor, he spent most of his time,
instead of paying attention tothe court cases, just doodling
and drawing away.
It was at this time he wasgetting bored of his life
choices.
He was like man, what the fuckdo I do?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I got to make a decision on what I do for my
life, oh my God, this is spot onfor this individual right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So at the age of 19, by a literal flip of a coin, he
made the decision about what todo with his life heads he would
move to london or tails in bra.
He got tails in 1981 inscotland, pretending to be his
own agent.
He successfully landed the jobworking with Canongate
(28:06):
Publishing, pretending to be hisown agent.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, so he.
I don't think you have topretend.
Well, he applied for this place.
I'm representing myself.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
He applied for this place originally and they denied
him.
So then he called up numeroustimes pretending to be his agent
, saying this kid's gonna be astar you want?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
him to be in here.
This is a job for you.
I in here.
This is a job for you, I knowright, you would be great at
this job.
This kid's gonna be a star.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And so they were finally like, oh shit, maybe
this kid's got an agent, maybewe actually should hire him on
Literally knows him.
So he landed the job because offaking it.
Fake it till you make it.
If that's one thing you takeaway from this, then let it His
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artistic works back in hisheyday.
He started his work in the1980s doing illustrations for
magus the lollipop man, whichcrying baby, which apparently um
this and baby, baby cat.
Apparently.
Magus the lollipop man was avery successful novel at the
time, and so was the other bookthat he was working on, the Good
Golf Guide to Scotland, whichwas actually introduced by one,
(29:16):
sean Connery.
That's insane, yeah.
In 1986, he also illustrated avery successful version of Dr
Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
So he was doing work.
He was doing illustration worklike pretty regularly.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, I mean there's definitely a theme here Things
that are wildly not real.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The theme is I made it up, it didn't happen.
He went on at this point toalso do children's books.
His most popular was theOgopogo, my Journey with the
Loch Ness Monster, and it earnedhim a Scottish Arts Council
Book Award.
Yeah, it's actually a verypopular book.
Apparently it sold a lot ofcopies.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I'm sorry, what do?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
you think it cost.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
In Scotland, I don't know A fucking Tree Fitty.
He walked you to the edge ofthat one and said here you go,
mike Tree Fitty, tree, fitty,yeah.
God damn it, yeah that would beit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
He walked you to the edge Of that one and said here
you go, mike, don't get newsjump.
And you're like what?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And I fell back.
He also went.
You're like oh.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I don't know, maybe like 10 pound or something like
I don't know what kind of moneythey have in Scotland, doug, I
don't, even he also A A doublet,a doublet, that's Spanish.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He also did a series of books called the Last, which
was a series of, again, prettysuccessful book study created.
His most infamous, or his mostfamous was the Last Polar Bears.
Parking back.
We're back.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Parking back to the polar bears, but there aren't
any polar bears here.
There we're back.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We're getting back to the polar bears, but there
aren't any polar bears here.
There aren't no polar bearshere.
This was.
This is insane.
This was turned into a TV filmwith Nigel Hawthorne as a
narrator and Fucking MartinFreeman.
Martin Freeman did the honorsfor his other book, the Last
Cowboys which was featured onthe show.
Go ahead, nigel Thornberry.
Yeah yeah, that.
(31:07):
Go ahead, nigel Thornberry.
Yeah yeah, that's NigelHawthorne, I forgot who Nigel
Hawthorne is.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Let me look it up real quick.
I was so hoping you would justsay Thornberry, nigel
Hawthorne's an actor, sir.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
He's been sirred Sir.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Nigel Thornberry.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Well, when you get sirred.
Oh, he was in Demolition man,that's nice.
Oh my god, I was driving thiscar and all of a sudden it
turned into a cannoli.
That might be him.
No, that was, uh, sylvestersloan.
Oh, okay, um, anyway, what adifferent movie.
I've seen this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I've seen demolition man way too many times, never
seen it out of uh, so, like Imentioned martin freeman, who we
all know, martin freeman umalso did the honors for the last
cowboys, which was featured onthe show jaciaconori Jr.
What does that mean?
I don't know, but it soundsAustralian, even though it's a
Scottish thing.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Giaconori Jr.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I believe was a children's TV show, Kind of like
a Nickelodeon.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So there's one named Giaconori Giaconori Jr.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Giacon named jackanory jackanory junior, yeah
, okay.
In 1990 he developed morechildren's books, this time
based off of his dog rue um.
This work led him to get a jobas a political cartoonist in
scotland on sunday, which was anewspaper that he spent six
years at um as a politicalcartoonist very good political
cartoons.
He has a solid, fucking likecareer, yeah very um yeah
history he even went on to dopolitical cartoons for the
(32:30):
independent, the guardian, anduh, that says tykes I don't
think that's right um the timesit's times and times and
telegram for a little.
Yes he wanted to do politicalcartoons for the toy from the
movie the toy um.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
mom says you can have graham crackers.
Dad says you can't Vote, mom.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
His final drawings were with the Sunday Herald in
Glasgow.
Glasgow, however you pronounceit.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Scottish Brilliant, but the dude had a very
successful life here.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
This does not sound like you're about to launch into
one of our normal topics.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I was just not bad how is he even drawing?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
he's got hooves, god damn it.
No, it just.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
It literally just sounds like you're just like
describing this man's accoladesand telling everyone that's
listening like look at thisamazing individual yeah, yeah
that's the rest of the story,though, right yep, so he also
has a musical side to him, whichis fun oh, my god in 1987 horse
helped.
In 1987, Horse helped.
That's the sentence I did.
I typed it.
(33:44):
In 1987, Horse helped start theeight-person bluegrass band
Swap Trash.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Horse was on the banjo, the fiddle and lead
vocals All three.
I think it didn't really makeit too clear, if I'm being
honest.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, but I believe he did all three the band took
on one of those guys buskingright with the spoons like oh
yeah and I had a segment.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm so sorry to derail this.
I had a fucking segment inmiddle school I will never
forget this where we learned toplay the washboard, the
makeshift banjo and the spoons.
Looking back, I'm like why?
The right.
But at the time I'm like, ohyeah, we're learning music.
But now I look back.
I'm like what weren't you bornon an island?
Yeah, but I also live here nowback to what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Um, so, yeah, so, uh, harriet, like I mentioned, was
on the banjo, the fiddle and thelead vocals, I believe.
Um, the band took on this weirdamerican persona.
They called themselves themiseries from missouri.
Remember?
This is a bunch of scottishdudes.
Um, they also blended cajun andhillbilly with bluegrass again
(34:58):
okay, bunch of scottish dudes.
Um, four members of Trash wenton to form the band Shuglanifty,
shuglanifty, yeah.
Which is a Celtic fusion bandwho is actually still touring to
this day and is moderatelysuccessful.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Editor.
Can we throw that in thereright here?
Shuglanifty, All right, thankyou.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Oh, she shugged on my nifty.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Till I, till I.
Misery In 1989.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
My last bit in 1989, while performing with his band
Swamp Trash, he met a youngwoman named Mary Williamson, and
a year later they got married.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's seriously the last thing that you're gonna
leave me with before I closethis shit out is the happiest
day of these people's fuckinglives.
Yeah, absolutely.
What do you mean?
Well, it's only gonna gethappier from here that's what.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I'm confused about.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It could only get happier, happier with their
mouths open, way more open.
Oh man, I'm guessing you're alldone with your section yes, I
want you to go.
Um.
So this all up until now.
This is all sound like supersuccessful life found someone he
loved, married her, created avideo game, has a musical career
(36:19):
, has like books published, hasworked in uh design.
Like it's crazy.
The amount of experience thisfucking man has hairy horse has
is insane.
Um, but I am gonna jump alittle forward to uh about 11
years after uh, the drowned god.
Conspiracy of the ages wasreleased.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
They should try better.
They also can't look up, don't?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
look.
Harry horse in the eye he mightkick you and someone call foul
play well, speaking of foul playwhatever foul would be like
birds.
In 2007, who, both harry horseand his wife uh, were both found
(37:10):
dead in their home.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Womp womp how did it happen?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
unfortunately.
Well, originally, um, simplyand it's actually this is still
a major theory the uh, it'sspeculated to be an intruder
that came and killed both ofthem for his knowledge on
various things, on the DrownedGod and all the conspiracies
that happened throughout theages.
A lot of people speculate that.
(37:36):
Some people speculate that anactual alien came down to
silence Harry Horse because hewas giving away too much
information and it would puttheir entire civilization at
risk.
Quiet equestrian bow.
But no, on January 10th 2007,harry Horse's body, along with
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his wife, mandy, was found with,I'll say, multiple stab wounds.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It was like 30 something, I think, wasn't it?
Or he was going to hold on tothat.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh, I'm sorry I was gonna hold on to that for a sec,
but okay, I should know better.
By this I thought you were likegod damn, you're playing it up,
mike no, I know, I know that's,that's more my fault than
anybody else's um, and so he,his body was discovered holding
his wife mandy.
Um, and, just like mike hadsaid, mandy was terminally ill
with multiple sclerosis.
I never said that, oh, youdidn't go over that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Words in my mouth.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought Icovered his artistic values and
his band.
Ok, not his, not his wife's MS.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I thought you touched on that, At the very least this
guy's wife has a monkey scrotum, he's bragging about it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wife has a monkey scrotum and he's bragging about
it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
What the fuck.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Disclaimer MS is not a joke.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Nor does it stand for monkey scrotum.
We're only laughing becausewe're awkward.
Yeah, that's honestly whatwe're at right now.
No, I'm just laughing.
I'm sorry if you have MS orknow somebody who does.
But I'm just laughing.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Sorry if sorry His wife was diagnosed, Unless there
knows somebody who does.
But I'm just laughing.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Sorry, if you have monkey scrotum.
His wife was diagnosed with MSor multiple sclerosis, or you
know, in shorthand, monkeyscrotum.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I can't take credit.
It's a family guy joke.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh is it.
It was way in the early, earlyseasons, so they were both found
in.
See, this is it says they werefound in their bungalow.
I really kind of want to knowthe difference between like a
bungalow, like a townhome or ahouse or like a cottage.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, like what?
The fuck isn't a bungalow?
Just like a one, uh like a onebedroom, like no second story
kind of thing.
Like isn't that just a reallybasic house?
Like a ranch studio apartmentof houses are you pretty much,
yeah, basically okay, I'mlearning shit a ranch for our
southwestern people or whateversouthern listeners.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
um, so yeah, mandy was found being held by Harry
Horse.
Um, both of them apparently hadbeen stabbed like 30 to 40
times.
Also all of their pets.
Apparently they had Rue that'sright, rue and there was another
animal.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
It doesn't say where, though Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
So a horse had stabbed her more than 30 times
this horse being murdered.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
No opposable thumbs.
How does?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
this work.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Hairy horse Stabbed her more than 30 times and then
killed their pets before turningthe knife on himself, and then
both of them Bled to death.
How?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
many times was he stabbed.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
It does not say this part doesn't hold on.
Let me find the other article.
I have like five I'll.
If I see it in the other onethat I'm about to jump to, I'll
correct myself.
Um, do, do, do, do, do.
Apparently, an actor named TamDean Byrne I have no idea who
the fuck that is um apparentlymade a radio tribute to him and
said in 2000 uh, in 2009, afterspeaking with this is such a
(41:06):
wild sentence after speakingwith horses, female relatives
that a 2008 report was a crueldistortion.
Is believed that the death wasa murder and not a suicide, with
the witness testimonies and thedoor to his home was open when
the bodies were found, which,yeah, it's suggestive, but I
(41:28):
don't know.
Um, all the the finalconclusion after going through
all the evidence, was that thiswas a murder, suicide, according
to authorities.
Um, however you want to takethat, you can, but a lot, lot
more conspiratorial mindedindividuals think that this was
absolutely a murder, murder andthen covered up by some
(41:50):
institution, governmental agencyor something to stop him from
continuing to share theinformation that was in the
Drowned God, because he did planon coming out with a sequel
called cult and then never gotaround to doing that, and before
he actually could start, it wastoo much and then he died.
Um, so that is, that's the, the,the big event that stopped
(42:15):
anything Harry horse relatedfrom coming out?
Um, musically, book wise any,uh, conspiratorial,
conspiratorially, anything likethat.
Um, book wise any,conspiratorially, anything like
that.
Um, so let's talk about uh, the, uh, oh, right, right, right, I
have an actual, um an accountof this.
Give me one sec, I gottafucking find how did we miss the
(42:36):
real quick?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
did you talk about the suicide pact part of this
whole thing?
Yeah, so, basically, um, thestory goes that they uh, so for
the 10 years where she had herms diagnosis, um, people noticed
that henry was going like likespiraling, like bad, like he was
not doing well because this wasthe love of his life, he was
(43:01):
his mute, she was his muse, likethat.
That was like his reason forliving and basically, um, if
this, like they were, basicallysaid that if when she died, he
had no reason to live anymoreand that he would die along with
her, and so that's a big, bigconspiracy around this whole
thing, is that they think thathe I mean the whole thing is
(43:23):
okay.
Yeah, they said that they tooka bunch of pills and overdosed
and died, but the autopsy saysmuch different.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
There was nothing in his system that would suggest an
overdose, uh, not to mentionthey clearly died from a bunch
of stab wounds, um, and uh, thisleads into a bunch of other 100
and actually, uh, there's a um,there's a post on reddit that
goes over this whole, like the,not only like what's released on
(43:52):
by the authorities or like whatyou can find on wikipedia or
something like that.
It also goes over the, thealternate thought process of the
whole thing and, um, it said so.
One of the things in this postsays on the night of january 9th
2007, harry snapped and,apparently, like they had been
talking about the success ofdrown god and like thinking
(44:13):
about doing another one um, andhere's what.
Here's what the, the snippetfrom one of the articles says.
It says that evening, harry andmandy had their last visitors,
two brothers from New Zealand,as relayed by Williamson.
Harry was in a demented stateroaming the house and
proclaiming it's a wonderfulknife.
God damn it, wonderful knife.
It's a wonderful night for akilling.
(44:34):
Mandy was distressed and didnot want one of the friends to
leave.
At 940 the next morning, january10th, the friends came back to
retrieve an item of clothing.
The front door was unlocked andopen, so they pushed it and
inside they saw the bodies ofHarry and Mandy lying close
together on Mandy's bed.
There was blood on the floor,windows and walls.
(44:54):
Harry, so it proved hadbutchered Mandy to death with a
knife.
By the medical examiner's count, he had stabbed Mandy more than
30 times, fetching a secondknife after breaking the first
inside her.
He then turned the knife onhimself, crisscrossing his arms
with cuts and mutilating hisgenitals 47 wounds in all.
The death certificate's recordthat both died of exsanguination
(45:20):
because he'd failed to delivera lethal blow.
Both had bled to death.
As a final token of horror, healso killed their dog, a
chihuahua Mandy liked to cuddle,and their cat.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
The fuck.
It's fucking wild.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
What the fuck it should probably also be noted
that, like even way before thishappened, basically everyone
that he had ever worked with hadmentioned that he was prone.
He was generally a really niceguy, but like was prone to just
these really strange outburstsof anger that just seemed to
come from nowhere.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Like he just go from like zero to 100 real fucking
fast on, like anybody for anyreason since, since we're on the
speculation part of this train,um, I will say that one of the
newer conspiracy of this train,I will say that one of the newer
conspiracy theories is do youguys remember that the show on
Netflix Bandersnatch like theinteractive Black Mirror episode
?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
yeah, they're taking that down.
However it's.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
A lot of people think that that whole experience was
literally based off of thisstory and if you go through and
you go through Bandersnatch,it's not too far-fetched, like
you can definitely see it.
It's multiple endings.
I haven't gone through it.
Yeah, it's, I've been throughit twice I think, and it's.
(46:36):
I can see that I would needmore information about it, but
it's, I think that's a coolconnection that fucking
bandersnatch literally took thisvery niche like story and made
something of it and made a wholeinteractive web series about it
.
Does it suck that none of theoriginal members that were like
(46:57):
this was based off were credited?
Absolutely.
Does it suck that this storywas not shared?
Absolutely.
Does it suck that this tragedywas not shared with everybody
also?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
yes, I've gone through it and I kind of see
that there's like a leaddeveloper on the game that is
like kind of crazy and doesweird shit.
Yep I mean it is, it would haveto be very loosely based on
this loosely based yes.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
But like after I read that I was like actually, yeah,
I can, I can kind of see that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
I think the thing in this whole thing that fucks me
up is if they, if he had 30 plusstab wounds to himself, how is
consciously doing that?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
that was like they're small.
None of them were lethal.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
It said 47 in all is that?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
just him him.
Total on him it was her.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Her was over 30, himself was over 47 you know the
thing about this that is weirdto me a hell of a drug.
That's weird to me about allthis is a fucking horse.
You know there's no we'redefinitely
Speaker 3 (47:59):
are you telling me a horse stabbed.
These people like.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
I would fuck wild like yeah, it's a really, it's a
really bizarre story, and wedon't typically cover like, uh,
you know that kind of shit, butwe like to avoid the real shit.
Yeah, we do, and we also it issad we're not true crimers feels
(48:24):
like a derogatory sentence, but, um, but no, it's, it's uh, the
the fact that the game is sobizarre and, like the, the story
leading up to it's so bizarre,or like, I guess, not leading up
, but leading after.
Post pleasant beginning.
Yeah, um, it's just all weird.
I thought it was a nice littledeviance from what we normally
(48:45):
talk about.
Um, and hopefully, maybepotentially we'll have some
gameplay up on our youtube.
Um, it might be out of order,though, because we're probably
not going to replay thebeginning.
Um, we'll, we'll animate it onstick figures.
Yeah, we'll, we'll recap,although I hear the last half is
like way weirder.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Oh yeah, that's all weird.
I think that the first what wewent through was pretty fucking
normal and tame compared to therest of the game, I think yeah,
I've seen a good handful of thegameplay and I was like I didn't
see any of that shit.
So, um, yeah, I also refuse todo the fucking new Einstein.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
No, I would kill myself before I do that again.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Fucking Christ.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Well, saddle up because we're playing it again.
God damn it.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Saddle up bitches At some point.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Honestly, I don't really have much else to add to
this other than, like Doug saidwe don't really Alright real or
fake.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Actually, that's a good question.
Do we think that Harry Horstbased his game off of a real set
of knowledge that he eitherfound, discovered or was given?
Or do we think the document heused to base all of this stuff
off of was forged and fake?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
That's the thing.
I forgot to write it down in mybit, but I'll mention it real
quick as well.
I forget the detailsspecifically, but he created
this, this like book.
It was a manuscript.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It's a forged manuscript.
It was in 1983.
He forged.
A man forged this.
What this article says isforged.
He says that he found it, sayshe forged a manuscript based on
writings by 19th century poetRichard Henry Horn, who he'd be
related to, which is his name.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, so I think he's just a good author.
I mean, he has the background.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
It was supposed to be a joke was initially or a hoax,
Like he wrote this thing andthen tried to pass it off as
like a legit thing that he foundand then eventually he admitted
that it was fake.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
he was like yeah, I made this up yeah, I don't think
it's based off of any wildconspiracy.
I think he just he's just agood storyteller was a good
storyteller.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
I mean he's basing them off of real conspiracies
that are like obviously theconspiracies themselves are not
real or could be real, but likealso if you look at that game if
you look at that fucking game,none of it really makes any
sense.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
There is a point where you, when you were playing
, you literally teleportedthrough Stonehenge to some weird
castle you rode a river, yourode a river up to some guy who
was like an old, like, whokilled you like five times.
It was like a holy grail kingarthur dude who wanted to play
chess, but it was fire chess,and then you were in fucking
(51:32):
like da vinci's lair with arobot like it.
I think it was just a bunch ofweird shit just thrown together
because, at I mean, there wasthe, it was the mid 90s.
That's just how games fuckingwere.
Games were just throwing shitat the fan and seeing what
sticks not far off honestly,this is the cooler version of
history oh yeah, I prefer realyeah
Speaker 3 (51:55):
real history is a little boring right, dude, real
life is boring like this shit'sway bigger, give me fucking
magic and shit, give me give mejizz wizards, give me back give
me your money at patreoncomslash diluty pod or at dilutycom
.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
You can also give me a follow or something that to a
follower or something.
If you go to any of our socials, just check anywhere.
We're either diluty pod ordon't.
Look under the interneteverywhere you look.
Send us an email at deludipodat gmailcom.
Um, want to go ahead and shoutout to ghoulish mortals?
As per usual, and undefinedgraphics, mike lowey, for our
graphic needs, and they could beyour graphic needs as well.
(52:35):
If you want to send them anemail, links in our descriptions
for everything.
Don't send us any mail.
We still don't have the key toour PO box.
I just thought about that.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Straight up.
Forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Can't believe you guys fucking lost that I'll just
come down and beat your ass.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Watch, we're gonna find it literally after we hang
up.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and say if you're a horse,
you probably shouldn't killpeople.
Jason, what do you got to say?
I don't know, man stay paranoid, as always about a man who's
coming to find you, named joeblob.
Be aware of this.
Mayor, matt, what do you got tosay?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
if you're not a horse , maybe you should kill people
have you tried?
Speaker 4 (53:21):
hug d, what do you have?
Slap your hairy horse againstyour monkey scrotum there it is
if you want the whole episode inone sentence.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
There you go thank you for tuning in.
Everybody have a blessed day.
May the horse be with you, bye,bye.
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