June 9, 2025 • 53 mins
Sometimes things go missing, and sometimes they turn up again. We cover both on this week's edition of DLUTI Lost and Found.
Starting your own podcast? Use this link to receive a $20 Amazon gift card when you sign up for a paid account with Buzzsprout!
https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1671664
Linktree
Buy us a beer!
Join us in Discord!
DLUTI.com
Unplanned Podnancy
Undefined Graphics (Photography & Graphic Design)
Ghoulish Mortals
Inquiries: dlutipod@gmail.com
Don't Look Under The Internet
PO BOX 6437
Aurora IL 60598
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Don't look under the internet.
Oh hell yeah.
Hi everyone.
Are we on the?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
watch.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, we've been yeah hell yeah, hi everyone, yeah,
we've been.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, we are Sick.
Hello everybody, welcome tothis.
This is the podcast.
It's Don't Look Under theInternet.
You've seen us, you love us.
You've heard about us.
Maybe your mom has, I don'tfucking know.
But I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Mike and that's matt I'm a blind box of anxiety and
self-loathing and that's dougyou never know what emotion
you'll get today.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, and uh, jason's not here today.
He's off buying 40 000 labubusto sell on xstockcom or
something, stockx, whatever thatsite's called uh, yeah yeah,
yeah, um, but yeah, we have someinteresting shit for you today.
Um, first and foremost, gonnaskip over housekeeping.
Don't really have anyhousekeeping.
(01:18):
We don't have any new subs rude, uh yeah kind of rude.
What are Come on?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
now I saw somebody bought merch yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh shit they bought merch, I think his name was Mike
Andrews, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm currently testing out.
Be on the lookout.
I guess I'll say keep a lookouton our shop on Dulycom in the
next coming weeks.
Here I've been testing some newmerch.
I've also adjusted some pricingbecause, you know, in this
economy, you know, shit hitseverybody.
So our prices have never beenlower.
Come on down to Big Al's ToyBarn.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's almost like we're not making anything off of
this anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So, literally, at this point, we are unfortunately
not really making anything.
I made it to be as cheap aspossible right now, just so we
could get some merch going offof this anymore.
So, literally, at this point,we are unfortunately not really
making anything.
I I made it to be as cheap aspossible right now, just so we
can get some merch going,because, at the end of the day,
I just want people to wear ourshit.
If we don't make money off it,it'd be what to do?
I just want people to have mylogo on their body somewhere.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Um so, I'm glad you did it with the new store,
because with our old merch storeyou could make it go negative
and every time somebody wouldorder something on the old star
it would charge my credit card.
So you could have really fuckedme.
I had to pay like the shippingand processing costs and then I
would get it back later when it,when our payout would come.
Oh god, you could have with theold store.
(02:41):
If somebody had gone in andbought like $2,000 worth of
t-shirts and we had priced themat the wrong margin, I could
have lost a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You, I would have had to sell the house.
So go to dilutycom, get somemerch and then be on the lookout
for new merch.
It's on there.
That's the housekeeping.
So, happy pride, everybody.
There is some.
Yeah, happy pride.
I made our shit cheaper.
Happy pride.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Mike's like anyways.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I, a while ago, if you guys recall, we did have
some different merch on our siteand that merch is gone.
It's all gone.
It's almost like it's Lost andit's never to be seen again,
kind of like the topic oftoday's episode.
Right, boys, we're talkingabout lost media today.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Um mike, I like your unabomber chic.
You, you've taken on the therole of unabomber ironically I
did.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Uh, I was able to just now send your package out
today, so doug I you open amysterious package from me.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I literally thought about wearing my black dad hat
right as we were about to recordand I was like nah, last time I
did, doug called me a Unabomber.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm sure you have a black dad.
That's cool.
It's inclusive as fuck.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, yeah, my first dad died, so I got my
government-issued black dad as areplacement.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, we haven't even said, we haven't even done
anything today.
I haven't even started.
Good God, what is?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, we're doing Lost Media.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Alright, we're doing Lost Media today.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Everyone, this is a good time.
I had us.
I had the boys find some moreLost Media and we're going to
talk about it today.
We have some fun ones, I think.
And who wants to fucking gofirst?
Um, I can knock it out.
Uh, doug, do you want to gofirst?
Matt, who?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
yeah, that's fine, I can go first.
Mine's uh, mine's pretty chill,you know, um.
So I've been going through,personally, a very large
nostalgia kick.
I guess I would call it ofwatching just old shit from my
childhood and not to get offtopic, but the Pee Wee Herman
(05:19):
documentary just came out andit's fucking really good and I
recommend everybody watch it, ifyou can.
Anyways, been watching a bunchof like nostalgic shit and this
is like the perfect lost foundmedia that I found.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now, uh, most of us 90s babies and I say most of us
media p we got arrested for,because I don't think we can
talk about that it tells youexactly what movie it was and
all that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's great, um, but no, uh, so this is crybaby lane.
This was a 2000s nickelodeontelevision horror film, um, that
basically gained notoriety as apiece of lost media due to its
like pretty much like straightdisappearance after its initial
broadcast.
Um, so this premiered in, so itactually broadcasted like on on
(06:08):
air, like it went live yeah, sothis was the, this was uh so
kind of similar in the vein oflike how uh, like the disney
channel would do like their ownmovies, you know um and comms.
Yeah, sure, uh, nickelodeonbasically would do their own
things too.
And so, in october of 20, oroctober 28, 2000, um, during
(06:30):
their snick halloween special,uh, a 70 minute film um aired,
called crybaby lane, and thefilm follows two brothers who
are basically enjoying listeningto ghost stories from a local
undertaker, and one of the talesthat they listen to involves
conjoined twins, one good andone evil, who end up dying from
(06:53):
a liver disease and basicallythe farmer's father saws them
apart post-mortem, burying thegood twin in a cemetery and the
evil twin um near like a dirtroad called crybaby lane, and
basically the two brothersattempt to contact the good twin
during a seance butinadvertently awaken the evil
(07:13):
twin, and that's what themovie's about.
So, yeah, so, basically, afterits initial airing, um, it was
never rebroadcast or released onhome media or anything like
that, and uh, this like absenceled to a lot of speculation
online that the film was banneddue to its, like incredibly
disturbing content.
(07:33):
And then there were like, uh,reports of like parental
complaints and, um, later on,nickelodeon was just like, oh,
the film had simply just beenforgotten, like you know, like
it's just we don't know where itis.
And then, in august of 2011.
So like a full fucking 11 yearslater, uh, a reddit user
(07:54):
uploads a vhs recording of theoriginal broadcast, uh, sparking
this renewed interest, andactually ends up leading to teen
nick re-airing the film onoctober 31st of 2011.
So that's kind of how itdisappeared and reappeared, um,
but during its disappearance,everybody was like describing it
as like this, just likehorrifically gory, like movie,
(08:17):
and that it was like way scarierthan like you know, something
that should be airing onnickelodeon should be, and that
there was just like this bigcraze about like how, how crazy
it was and there actually evenspawned a whole creepypasta that
was made fully because of thismovie, um, which you can just,
if you just google Crybaby Lanecreepypasta, it'll pop up.
(08:39):
Basically, in a nutshell, it'sjust a guy being like hey, I
worked on this film.
What you saw online was waydifferent than the final cut.
The guy who has the final cutis a fucking creep and blah,
blah, blah and it goes into abunch of stuff like that.
A guy that has all this crazyold, gory Nickelodeon-cut
episodes of Spongebob and stufflike that.
(09:02):
It's a fun read, it's fine.
Have you actually read?
It's a fun read, it's it's fine.
I want to tie in.
Have you actually read it?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
uh, yeah, I read it earlier.
Does it tie into the likesquidward suicide?
Uh, it doesn't really go it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It.
It kind of alludes to somethinglike that, but it doesn't go
over that.
Um, it just says like, oh, thisguy I should have had it up.
But basically it's just a guybeing like yeah, like I saw that
, like the, the original cut,it's like fucked up.
Um, but a lot of people,basically because of that creepy
pasta, we're like hey, you knowthis, this, we need to find
this media and like, you know,this is crazy, like we need,
(09:36):
this is some real lost mediahere.
Uh, and then finally, when itwas re-uploaded, everyone was
like wow, uh, this is likepretty corny, not very
frightening at all.
Um, kind of just feels like areally long episode of like are
you afraid of the dark?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
that's the vibe I was kind of getting from it too,
when you were describing it yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's kind of funny because, like, I feel like it
almost had a better legacy whenit wasn't found, um, and it was
actually truly never lost, to befair, because nickelodeon
clearly had it like ready to go,like after somebody uploaded it
online.
So I don't know, I thought itwas interesting.
It was pretty, uh, prettyrandom yeah but I actually did
(10:16):
watch.
Be on youtube now yeah, you canfind it all on youtube.
I actually watched it.
Um, it's fine.
It literally just feels like aare you afraid of the dark
episode just longer.
But yeah, that was my, that wasmy lost, lost, found media.
That's kind of lost found, lost, found I.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So and I wonder if, uh, nickelodeon did decide not
to like.
I know that they aired it once,but they decided to keep it off
like after that because, uh,like the 2000s, I feel like
Nickelodeon was kind of doingpretty good when it came to like
movies, because they had, likeSnow Day, they had the Rugrats
(10:54):
movie, like the Wild Thornberrymovies all those went to
theaters.
So I bet they're like do wereally want to try doing horror?
I don't know if that's a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Um, my, my thought is that it probably did poor
numbers because they aired it onfucking like a couple days
before halloween and I mean,like I, I don't know, I it just
depends, like it, you know shit.
I was all of like nine yearsold in 2000, so like I probably
(11:23):
wasn't staying up that lateeither to watch that stuff if I
was.
So October 28th 2000, oh no, Imean like for the towers did it
say like what time?
because you said late oh, I justassumed I I don't know, I could
probably find it though becausewe're talking SNCC.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I mean, I feel like that shit would probably be like
9 o'clock, you know, 9 or 10.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
8 pm to 10 pm.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yep, I just pulled it up too, yep.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's kind of cool, though, and they found it again,
which I like, but also fuck you, nick.
You just had this sitting in acellar and you weren't doing
anything with it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, they just see all these people online talking
about it but they're like, nah,we'll just kind of keep it in
our back pocket.
I wonder what that was about.
What was that about?
What that is.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They probably just cut a bunch of stuff from it
when they re-released it, that'sprobably what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The original was way worse, I don't know, but I I
remember things way differentlyfrom what that, what they are.
Now you know what I mean.
So like people might be, likeoh, so gory and everything, but,
like doug said, you wereprobably like what?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
like seven, eight, nine right but they probably
watched it so I saw signs on aplane when I was like 10 years
old and I remember being fuckinghorrified.
Yeah, and science isn't eventhat scary.
I mean mean, it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
There's that one real good scene, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, like the birthday party scene.
I remember that, just beinghorrifying to me.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Spooky.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Not anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Now it's just a movie .
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now, it's just a movie.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Now, it's just kind of silly.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Matt, what do you?
Got me boyo.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I had an idea before I go over my stuff we should
make this a mini series and justcall it diluted, lost and found
oh, that's fun.
Yeah, we should do that we'llworkshop that later lost and
found.
So my lost, madidia.
I got a lost and a found.
My lost is Jojo.
(13:25):
I got a lost and a found.
Um, my lost is Jojo's BizarreAdventure Phantom Blood.
So if you know anything aboutJojo's Bizarre Adventure, uh.
I don't Let me pull it up the.
So the anime that we know nowwas a series that started in
2012, but um, jojo's bizarreadventure, phantom blood.
(13:51):
Like phantom blood, is thefirst section of the manga, and
the manga is pretty old.
So before the 2012 series thatwe know now, there was a movie
that was released in 2007, andit was only released in Japanese
theaters, and so this movie wascalled JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
(14:11):
, phantom Blood, and apparentlythis existed maybe as early as
2004, because some of the onlyfootage we actually have from
this film now was released as ateaser alongside the jojo's ps2
game, so sony basically usedthis movie as like promotional
(14:32):
content for the ps2 game, andthen it got a theatrical release
in 2007 and the studio thatmade this movie lost the rights
to Jojo, so after the theatricalrelease was done, it never came
out on DVD or anything likethat, so there was never
actually a copy of this moviereleased to the public.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Unless you had a bootlegger in the theater Right
exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I guess apparently nobody did record it
Dang, and to this day we have nocopies of it.
Um, the first 16 minutes of themovie was released as a uh, the
first 16 minutes without thedialogue, so with all the
dialogue cut out, but just thescore was released to a
(15:20):
university as educationalmaterial for a course in a
japanese university.
So we have like the first 16minutes of just footage.
But the only actual footage wehave, like unmodified footage we
have of the film is that teaserthat came out alongside the ps2
game and it's like a minute anda half long.
You can find it on youtube, um,but some attempts from the ova.
(15:49):
Yeah, so okay, uh, the.
You have to be specific, so youhave to put in jojo's bizarre
adventure phantom blood 2007.
Um, and I don't even thinkthere's like a wikipedia page
(16:10):
about this.
The only thing you'll find isthe from the lost media wiki,
and the lost media wiki articleis titled jojo's bizarre
adventure phantom blood,partially found anime film based
on manga 2007.
Um, so this was like a full-assfeature-length movie 91 minutes
.
That is just completely lost totime.
(16:32):
Attempts have been made to liketry to contact people involved
with the film and see if we canget it released.
We don't even know if there isa copy of this movie that still
exists in anyone's hands, as faras I can tell.
Um, so a guy named uh junichihayama, who is an anime artist
who's worked in the industry forlike 30 plus years and has
(16:55):
worked on several differentthings, like yugioh and a couple
other high-profile movies.
He was the character designerand chief animator on this movie
, and somebody asked him in aninterview in 2022 if uh like why
the movie had never beenreleased to the public, and all
he said was I don't want you tosee angry, see me angry and
(17:18):
pissed off, so it's better thatI don't answer this question, so
wait, was that from iraqi huh,the creator of jojos, or no,
that was from junichi hayama,who was the he?
He's just an animator, he's ananime artist.
He was the chief characterdesigner on the movie.
So the interviewer asked In2007, a movie adapting the
(17:40):
Phantom Blood part of JoJo'sBizarre Adventure was released
in Japanese theaters.
This movie has never seen anyrelease outside of its theater
distribution.
You worked on it as a characterdesigner and animation director
.
Is any reason why this moviehad never, never had any home
video release?
And all I said was, like I said, I don't want you to see me
angry and pissed off, so it'sbetter that I don't answer this
question, which leads to theidea that maybe there was like
(18:05):
some sort of internal politicswith the company or something
that resulted in this notgetting released, or maybe, um,
the people who own the rights tojojo's now don't want it
released and are actively liketrying to keep it from being
released for some reason.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm not real sure it's got to be something like
that, because it can't be likethey don't have a copy or
something, because if it had atheatrical release, that means
there's film reels out there youwould think that theaters you
know, yeah, it so it has to besomething it looks like a lot of
the rumors are that uh, iraqi,the guy who created uh jojo's uh
(18:43):
did not like the way that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh, what was it?
Jppppp or whatever.
Yeah, jppp, the studio did it.
Appp, yeah, appp.
All right Either way, he didn'tlike it, but there's no actual
definitive statement from himconfirming this.
It's just rumors.
It looks like.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, as far as I can tell, everybody that's actually
involved with this or has beeninvolved with JoJo's since is
very quiet about it and I wonderif there's like NDA shit that
went into it as well.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I love JoJo's and I need to see this.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean the minute and a half teaser.
Like I said, you can find it onYouTube.
It doesn't look bad.
I mean, the animation is prettygood.
It's kind of got like an older,grittier style to it than the
newer anime does.
Um, yeah, I'd be interested inthis getting released someday.
I don't know what that wouldtake or, like I said, if there's
actually any, a copy of it outthere.
(19:42):
You would think, if there is acopy of it out there somewhere
sitting in an office orsomething that somebody it's
like somebody would have takenone for the team, you know yeah
right, I have a weird feelingthat you're probably going to
see it released in 2027, becausedidn't you say it came out in
2007?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
yeah yeah, something's gonna happen where
it's like 20th anniversary.
This lost footage was found andit's coming out an unlimited
release and they'll sell afuckload of copies.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, well, I don't know, the film itself was a
celebration of the 25thanniversary of something.
I think it may have been thecreator's beginning of his
career or something like that.
So yeah, I don't know.
Or maybe it is just like a plotto just drum up hype and get
people talking about it, whichit's not working very well,
(20:33):
because I would have thought Iwould have heard of this.
I hadn't heard of it, and Imean, I guess this is a pretty
big thing within, like the lostmedia community, which is not
something I know much about yeah, well, I don't think that was
the original intent.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I bet I'm.
I would not be surprised if itwas like you said originally,
where it was like sorry, myhat's all fucked up.
I wouldn't be surprised if itwas like you said originally,
whereas, like since they lostthe licensing fees, like they
just couldn't get a distributorand like it just became too
costly, at that point they'rejust like, yeah, we're not going
to make our money back, don'teven yeah, I'm pretty sure they
(21:08):
lost the rights to the franchiselike literally a month or two
after the it stopped showing intheaters, which is probably why
it never got around to beingreleased in any, and I bet, I
bet, like whoever picked up thethe rights doesn't have rights
to like that film specificallybecause it was made under a
different company or something.
(21:28):
I bet there's probably a wholelegal mumble jumbo that's going
into it, but I I bet thosejapanese lawyers, man, they're
fucking ruthless.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So joker nintendo typically too, is like a really
weird ip, so like, uh, I guessthe way to think about it too
here is that, like I have, Ihave a dvd, a japanese dvd of of
the OVA of the original seriesfrom 1994.
Like, it's old as piss.
(21:56):
And then they did a bunch ofstuff throughout the years and
it's taken them like a lot ofthe actual manga that has been
out, like, for example, thenewest one that's going to come
out is called Steel Ball Run.
They did a bunch of like.
Jojo's did a bunch of stuffwith netflix and then netflix
(22:16):
just lost the ip.
So now they're doing it with anew, a new company, like again
like, and the they're about todo steel ball run, which came
out in like 2000.
Like they're like way behind onlike animation to manga and
it's like.
It's a very, very weirdsituation and jojo's fans are
well, myself included, are verypatient, apparently because that
(22:38):
shit is wild.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's why I'm wondering if I mean it'd be cool
if they they released it, butI'm wondering if they're just
like, yeah, a, we don't havetime.
B uh, it'd be a headache to getthis thing distributed because
we have too much shit already toworry about.
And see, I mean, I'm not, Iknow nothing about jojo.
I don't know how big it is, butand you might be able to attest
to this but is jojo even likethat big of an anime?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
like, is it?
I think it's pretty big amonganime nerds, but I don't think
it's like it's exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Are they weighing the options we're like is it, are
we?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
it's definitely underrated.
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I bet they're like is it even worth putting time and
money into getting thisdistributed when it's not going
to make our money back?
There's probably a money, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think it's a big enough series that it would
probably be worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think it would be worth it for sure, and I think I
tend to lean towards the factthat I think it's a big enough
series that it would probably beworth it.
I think it would be worth itfor sure, and I think I tend to
lean towards the fact that Ithink Iraqi just didn't like
what was made.
To be honest, because if youever read any articles about
this guy, he is like literallyin love with his characters.
If he likes a character likeenough, like he's going to put
all of his time and effort intomaking that character also loved
(23:50):
by the people who are watchingit and like I feel, like I feel
like he would be the one to belike nah, this shit sucks, I
hate it, get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
like yeah, but at what point do they have the
authority to do that?
Because at what point is it?
The company has more power thanthe creator.
I mean, look at dragon ball.
Uh, toriyama had almost no takein GT and GT still got made.
He had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think that's why it takes so long for these to come
out, because Araki has thefinal say on everything.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I can't weigh in on the complexities of how the
JoJo's IP is controlled.
To be fair, I don't know.
I'm also not thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know, and you know I'm I'm also not thinking
about it, I'm also a littlewrong, because I forgot that.
That's how studio Ghibli worksis like once that creator dies,
no one, no one, makes charactersor like does any like story
over a Ghibli except that guy?
So once he's gone, like they'relike what the fuck do we do?
We got to move on, guy.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So once he's gone, like they're like what the fuck
do we do?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
we gotta move on because we're gonna get some
angry weaves in the fuckingcomments I know.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right, that's fair.
All right, my found media isthe original pilot of the first
episode of family guy.
So this is something that wasactually found a couple months
ago, um, and until then wassomewhat lost.
So, um, there is a pilotepisode of family guy that you
(25:14):
could could always find, um,which is like the first episode
where peter swears he's notgonna get drunk and then he gets
drunk and um, but this pilot islike the pilot that seth
mcFarlane made that he likeshowed to the studios and stuff
or showed to Fox to likeactually get Family Guy made.
(25:35):
And so, prior to a couple monthsago, I think, only like seven
minutes of this was availableand it was released in volume
two of the Family Guy DVD set in2003.
And then there were bits andpieces of it that were released
in an interview with SethMacFarlane in 1999.
But the entire 16 minute longthing hadn't ever been seen by
(26:00):
anybody who didn't work on it orwork at the studio, until a
couple of months ago, whensomebody was just digging around
on the internet and discoveredthe personal website of a man
named Robert Paulson who was ananimator who worked on drawing
the frames for the pilot, and hehas a personal website where he
(26:23):
just like shows off things thathe's worked on and in his
portfolio on his website.
The whole thing is just there,like the whole 16 minutes of the
pilot.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So it wasn't even that it was lost, we just
weren't looking in the rightspot.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, that's funny though, yeah, if you go to
robertolsoncom and go to motiongraphics and animation and then,
scroll down to the middle ofthe page there's this little old
(26:59):
school looking cartoon thingand yeah, it's just the full
fucking 16 minutes of the firstepisode of Family Guy it's a
little bit different.
Like the animation is a littlebit different.
The voices are super fuckingweird.
Chris's voice is real weird, isit just fucking?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Patrick Marlin doing all of them.
Yeah, it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Brian, but high is what Chris sounds like.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
A lot of pilots like that.
The American Dad pilot was likethat too.
Everyone sounded weird andlooked different.
It was very strange.
It also um this bless youDouglas.
This also reminded me that thisone reminded me of.
Um, there was, uh, it wasn'tlost media per se, but um, there
was this whole investigationwith Futurama, where, um, oh,
(27:53):
they changed the line before theguy gets in the tube.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
What, oh?
So there's this theory that inthe first episode of Futurama, I
think, the guy walks up to thefirst time you see the transport
tubes that you get sucked intothe first guy that walks up to
it, before Fry walks up to it,says something like JFK Regional
Airport or something like that.
I forget exactly what the lineis, and then he gets sucked into
(28:18):
the tube.
But they changed it from thepilot episode to the episode
that aired.
I thought that's what you weretalking about.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, so something that people were theorizing about.
So in the show I mean thiscan't be spoilers, the show's
old as piss.
But in the show Fry, at onepoint in season one goes back in
time to before he gets kickedinto the freezing chamber and he
discovers that Nibbler is theone that pushes him.
(28:46):
When he's leaning back in thechair you discover that Nibbler
pushes him and that's the reasonthat fry gets into the time
chamber or into the freezingchamber yeah, the shadow so
there.
So nibbler's shadow can be seenin that.
And people are like, huh, Iwonder if you can see nibbler's
shadow in the pilot, yeah, andof of it.
(29:07):
And when you watch the pilot onlike comedy central or netflix
or wherever, um, you can see,it's there.
But I believe the creators werelike, oh yeah, we went back and
digitally added that shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It wasn't there to begin with no, they proved that
that's not the case exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, so they're like well, wait a minute.
So they're like is this true?
So someone found, like you weresaying, they found like a test
pilot that they would use tolike um see who would take the
rights like mail to the studiosexactly.
Yeah, they found the shadow inthese like vhs tapes that they
would mail to the studios andthey saw the shadow was there,
meaning that that whole plotline has been thoroughly thought
(29:45):
through this entire time.
But for the longest time peoplewere like was it digitally
added, was it not?
We got to get to the bottom ofthis um, and that kind of
reminded me of your family guyone.
That's very funny, um, but I Ilove that stuff, um with like
lost media where it's like, didthis happen?
We got to go back and find it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yada, yada, yada yeah , it's pretty cool.
I've actually been watchingmore lost media like videos on
youtube lately, um, before weeven decided we were going to do
this episode.
Shit's wild.
You get some really weird lostmedia stuff, just really really
random shit that doesn't reallyhave any significance to my life
, but I'm like that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I found out that a lot of the first seasons of
Doctor who from the 60s, a lotof the episodes are just dude.
Didn't know that they're justfound in a.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
There was a bunch found in the uh, the basement of
a mormon church.
Yeah, I almost went with thatstory for this episode.
I was like that's interestingfinally a use for mormons.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Sorry, any mormon listeners the line.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh no, they gave up a long time ago probably.
The line that I was talkingabout was um.
Before the guy gets sucked intothe tube and the episode that
actually aired on tv, he sayssays Radio City, mutant Hall,
and then in the pilot he saysJFK Jr Airport.
But they changed the namebecause John F Kennedy Jr died
(31:20):
right before it came out, sothey redubbed it.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Oh, interesting, so they changed it to RFK Airport.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
RFK Jr Airport.
What Take me to the?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
raw milk factory for it, oh God.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Take me to the raw milk factory, all right?
Well, I got mine here, boys, soI have.
I'm going to talk aboutHeartman today and, matt, if you
want to throw up some imagery,if you just go to Google and
type in Heartman Lost Media,heartman Lost Media, you'll get
the images.
If you just type in Heartman,you won't get them.
Man lost media heart man lostmedia, you'll get the images.
If you just type in heart man,you won't get them.
But, um, basically, heart manis a series of images that were
(31:55):
found online that had no realexplanation for where they came
from.
Um, these images that were foundonline depicted a man in a
heart suit, um, and it's like,it's kind of like just like a
black zoot suit, and then with abunch of like what look like
foam hearts, just like all overthe heads, one big heart.
He's got like antennas comingoff that are just like a bunch
(32:16):
of hearts all down, like thesleeves and his legs is just a
heart, heart, heart, heart,heart.
So it's not just like, it's nota suit.
That's one big heart, it's abunch of small ones all over.
But these, these like Polaroidshots, um showed this man with
(32:47):
this heart suit out like eatingwith friends.
He's out dancing in the city,he's reading newspapers, just
kind of doing stuff around thetown, um, but the mystery is who
the fuck is heart man and wheredo these photos come from?
So a lot of people that gotinto heart man here, um, figured
the easiest way to go aboutthis is to reverse image search
on google to see if they couldfind the earliest upload of
these pictures, and they found atumblr account called dog pile,
who is an archivist who runs afashion-based web archive.
(33:09):
They basically scan a bunch ofscans and pages from fashion
magazines all the way back fromthe early 60s to the early 2000s
, so this guy's got a hugecatalog of just fashion magazine
and articles.
Here is where we found aHeartman post on February 8th
(33:29):
2019.
So far, 2019 is the first timethese Heartman images came to
the internet.
In the description on theTumblr post you find a link to a
site called Mother Culture.
This site is shut down now.
You can't really access it, butthere are archived pages of the
(33:51):
site that show it was an onlineart gallery with scans from
Dogpile.
So Dogpile apparently workedwith this Mother Culture site.
Now is this the source of heartman, do you think, uh, people
(34:12):
were like, oh, so it was just afashion statement thing, um, but
no, you, you, you don't thinkso, because dog pile scans
magazine, uh, magazines andarticles.
He doesn't actually like makethem himself.
So nothing from this motherculture art like gallery,
(34:33):
nothing from this is likeoriginal.
It's all like, uh, older scansthat are uploaded to this mother
culture site.
So heart man wasn't made forthis website, for this art
gallery.
It was just uploaded there.
So heart man is somewhere in amagazine.
They've been able to deducethat, considering this website
(34:53):
and this archivist just uploadshit from fashion magazines.
So they're like alright, thesepictures came from some form of
magazine.
We have no fucking idea whichone.
People reached out to dog pileand dog pile basically said that
the series of photos fromTumblr, including heart man, so
his entire Tumblr account um,they were intended to be
(35:16):
uncredited and confusing.
That was part of his likeconcept that he wanted to put up
there Just random fashionarticle and images uploads.
Um, he never, um, put like asource up.
He never puts up like aphotographer names, uh, article
names, nothing, it's just theimage.
And dog piles like, yeah, sorry, I can't help you.
(35:37):
The whole point was be weirdand confusing.
So I have no reference point ofwhere these came from.
So people were like, alright,fuck it, let's look at the
photos themselves and check fordetails.
So they were able to deduce bythe printing patterns of these
images in the magazine and thecolors that were used that these
(36:00):
stills were taken from a VHStape.
So these are stills from a VHSmovie, essentially stills from a
VHS movie.
Essentially.
They used image dating and theyalso explored the images even
more to figure out that thepictures were taken in a
timeline of roughly about 20years, somewhere between the
(36:20):
1970s and the 1990s, which isstill a very vague timeframe.
So that's not very helpful.
But they were like, hey, shit'sbeing done on a VHS tape.
This is a time frame when VHStapes were very popular in media
, so let's go from there.
They checked the vehicles thatwere in the background of some
of these pictures.
(36:40):
They found out that one of thevehicles was manufactured in
1979.
So that gives us, instead of atime frame of the early 70s or
just the 70s in general.
Now we know One of thesevehicles was manufactured in
1979.
So this gives us a rough yearto work off of.
Next, they looked at some of thelocations, some of the
(37:01):
buildings had text and bannerson them.
When were these from and where?
That's what they wanted tofigure out.
They traced one of thebuildings to being a theater in
genza, tokyo, um.
The theater had a billboard onthe side of it for that had a
date, um, for a performance.
It didn't say what theperformance was.
(37:22):
It was blocked out.
It's a little blurry, but youcould read the date.
It said august 1st.
So they asked the theater forum if they had any records of
any shows that were going on onAugust 1st, um.
They got four dates, but thesefour dates were still kind of
all over the place.
They were from like um 1979 andlike 1985 and like 1992.
(37:42):
And so they were still in thatlike 20 year gap.
So it wasn't all that helpful.
They were looking at A lot ofthese people that are involved
in this Hartman.
I guess mystery started.
Looking at more banners, theyfound one in the distance that
read the word B-E-T-E, which isapparently part of a phrase from
(38:08):
a performance that was at thattheater in 1982, in August.
So because of this one littlephrase we found the year that
the photos of the Hartman wastaken 1982.
So we were able to get it downjust like that Bam.
So after all this sleuthing,two more brand new heartman
(38:29):
images popped up.
These images linked to a flickraccount called 35 millimeter
film photographers.
This, uh, these images werefrom 2006.
Now here's the weird thing, thethese new images that they
found.
Here's the weird thing, thesenew images that they found.
The costume looked entirelydifferent.
(38:51):
It was way more up-to-date.
It looked like Instead oflooking like foam hearts, they
looked more like kind of like acrushed velvet kind of look to
them.
They looked like you know thosecheap plushes you get from a
shitty crane machine that hasthat weird crushed velvet feel
to them.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
This wasn't even its final form.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So here's the thing.
So yeah, so it ends Jojo'scharacter if I've ever seen one
right.
instead of being like a blackzoot suit with all these foam
foam hearts on him, like thehead was one big, like fuzzy,
like plush looking thing.
The whole thing was like onegiant pink suit and like it
still had those like multiplehearts going on it, but they
were just more up-to-datelooking and people were like, oh
(39:33):
shit, what is this?
This has to be the same guy,right?
There's no way that there couldbe two heart men out there.
It can't be a coincidence likethat, especially because I found
out that the new heart manimages, the new guy in the heart
man suit, was 20 minutes awayfrom the old heart man photos
were taken, so we got some shitgoing on here got some shit
(39:58):
going on we got some shit goingon here.
They're able to find a video ofthe new heart man performing at
a japanese art contest and hewas like doing songs.
Um, they found his page.
They found they found a blogpage where we find out this
heart man's name is I love Yuta.
When looking deeper into hisblog, you find out that he's
(40:21):
basically basically like thismascot character for like love.
Like he does a bunch of likechildren's songs about how you
should like love each other.
He talks about like theenvironment, how we should take
care of it, things like that.
There's a video, like aninterview video.
It's like six minutes long orso.
It's basically just like whatdo you do?
What were your inspirations forthe costume?
(40:45):
He lists off his inspirationsas just being, you know, love.
The heart is a symbol for love.
We're going to go off of that.
But he does not mention the oldheart man.
Not once is the old heart manmentioned as an inspiration or
is he ever referenced here.
So, oddly enough, this was adead end as well.
(41:06):
New heart man has nothing to dowith old Hartman, even though
the locations were 20 minutesapart from each other.
And, matt, if you want, it's upto you.
If you want to look into mynote here I have a bunch of
pictures of Hartman.
The last one is a comparison ofthe two Hartmans, so you can
see the old costume and the newcostume.
(41:28):
That's completely up to you.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I need somebody to get on this for me because, okay
, so while I was google imagingheartman, I found that there was
like heartman fan art.
It's like, well, that makessense, right?
Um, yeah, so what I was doingwhile you were explaining, the
last bit that you wereexplaining was, uh, checking to
see if there was any heart man,rule 44 or rule 34.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Oh, there isn't.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I at least none, at least none that I can find.
So somebody's got to get onthat.
I'm pretty sure that rule 35 isif you look it up and it
doesn't exist, you're obligatedto create it.
But uh, I'm not going to dothat.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, I don create it , but uh, yep, I'm not gonna do
that.
Yeah, I don't have the time forthat dog, I don't got the
skills yet.
Someone else get on that for me.
I would uh appreciate that.
Uh, my dad just messaged mesaying I am heart man, so that's
fun.
I forgot my mom was listening,which means my dad probably is
too that kind of freaked me outa little bit um, I'll drop in
the discord chat.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I'll drop in the discord chat.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I'll drop in the discord chat real quick so
people can see the heart manimages I'm talking about.
I think I might've deleted, ohno, there it is.
I'll drop in the discord chatreal quick so people can see
heart man at his finest Heartman, heart man.
So here is the two differentheart men.
There you go.
They're in the discord chat,but, yeah, dead end.
(42:49):
So this new Heartman hasnothing to do with the old
Heartman.
Here's the thing, guys.
This is fucking it.
There's nothing else onHeartman.
This is lost media at its best.
The trail just went cold.
There's no other information onthis Heartman.
There's no other photos.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Heartman 2.0 has a whole ass.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Hartman guitar, I know right Like he's kind of
cool.
Hartar, hartar yeah, thatdoesn't sound like a word.
We should be saying Hartar, whyit just?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
sounds like a fish paste.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, a little bit Hartar sauce.
He, yeah, hartar, yeah, alittle bit heartar sauce.
He, uh, yeah, lost media.
He's just gone.
There's no other information onheartman.
This is blank gone forever,unless the man in the costume
comes out and is like yeah, Iwas fucking heartman dog, this
is what it was, it's just gone.
There's nothing else on thischaracter.
People think it might have justbeen like a mascot in this one
(43:45):
specific town in Japan like alocal business or something you
think it was a local business,or you?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
think it was just this dude was.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
This is just what this guy did that's the theory
is like is this just a guy thatdid that?
Like?
In my town I have the local guythat looks like einstein, that
just walks around just lookinglike einstein, he plays froth
and people call him.
You know, they call him thelocal Einstein.
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Maybe that's a shit it just immediately says it's a
fashion show, that guy that'sone of the.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
That's what they think.
Because of dog piles uploads,because dog pile that's what I'm
saying.
Magazine, you know, I'm sayingyeah, I mean yeah, no one has
any other info on him, though iswhat I'm saying.
The theory is that it's just afashion statement thing, or that
he's just a local mascot, butthere's no for-sure proof,
because they can't find any Wildshit.
(44:37):
Good, good, good, fuck you,hartman.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
All right, well, I got one last little one.
It's very short.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
When I did Google Hartman Rule 34, I mostly got Dr
Hartman from Family Guy, whichis an interesting crossover.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Before you start, doug, I have one small thing I
just want to mention.
I've done no research on it, Ijust think it's very fascinating
.
We all know about how ChrisFarley was supposed to be Shrek
and then he died.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, I almost went for that one too.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, so there was a very small amount of audio you
could find, uh, not a smallamount.
You can find a lot of the audioof, uh, chris Farley doing the
um, the audio for the movie, butthere's no visuals to it.
I think, like a year ago,people found like a six minute
video or something that wasfully um, something that was
(45:30):
fully, um, fully animated, thathas chris farley's voice and
everything to it, um, so that'skind of fascinating how we found
animation to go with the audio.
Um, look into it if you'd like.
Uh, there's this little thingthat I found that I wanted to.
Just how do we know that's nota?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
uh, yeah, right I, I love chris farley, but I think I
think it was a good decisionthat it Well okay, how do I say?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
this politely it was a good decision.
He died.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I think it ended up better for the Shrek
franchise.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
From the audio I heard it didn't sound right.
I know Mike Myers is thereference point now because he
just did it, but that Scottishaccent he does with it.
Yeah, it hits.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Can you imagine?
Imagine maybe the guy fromSmash Mouth wouldn't be a
fucking alcoholic and died?
You know, if Chris Farley didTrek?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
who's to say, you know but I thought that was
fascinating yeah, no, there's alot of interesting ones.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
We'll definitely have to do more of this.
Deloitte lost and found yeah,but the last one that I have is
the uh, the cnn doomsday video,so basically all right.
It's also unknown as the turnerdoomsday video, so it's a one
minute pre-recorded segmentintended to air on cnn in the
event of a global catastrophe.
(46:43):
Uh, it was commissioned by tedturner before the network's uh,
like 1980 launch and itbasically is just a video of
members of the us army, navy,air force and marine bands
performing a christian hymn nearmy god to thee, um and it ismn
(47:08):
is associated with the titanic'sfinal moments.
Um and basically, um.
This video was stored in thearchives, labeled turner's
doomsday video and theinstruction with the instruction
hold for release till uh end ofthe world confirmed.
And then, uh, basically, theserumors had spread around for
years and in 2015, uh, it becamepublicly available because a
(47:32):
former CNN intern leaked thefootage, having discovered,
basically having discovered itin his internship, and then he
just shared the video throughJalopnik, which I believe is a
website for like cars and techor something like that, really
kept him off the trail with thatone he didn't put it to like
fucking one, two, three lockeror whatever it's called I don't
(47:53):
know, but yeah, you can actuallyfind this online and it's like
really just it's kind of eerie,I don't know.
It's like it's just weird, it'snot even like, it's not even
scary, like yeah, it do becreepy looking for no fucking
reason what's it called turner?
Doomsday movie Turner.
Doomsday yeah, like you, theway it looks is like it's kind
of like zoomed out really far infront of like this band playing
(48:14):
the music and it's just like Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It's creepy to a degree, but so the context of
this is just when we have nohope left.
They're just like fuck it.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Play the video yeah, cause you know we're gonna turn
to CNN when a meteor is gonnahit the earth or some shit.
Right, but uh, yeah, that wasit.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I thought it was kind of creepy and weird imagine
telling that to the people thatare in that video, like, hey,
this is the last thing.
A lot of people are gonna seebefore they die the performance
that we're gonna do right now isnot going to be seen unless the
world's going to blow up.
So give it your all guys.
Come on Really, put your heartinto it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I'm trying to understand the set of
circumstances that would lead tolike we know everything's
fuck-fucked, but we have enoughtime for somebody to consciously
be like.
Play the video.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Jimmy put the tape in .
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, there's just like a panic button that you
just hit and it just plays.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
They have one guy who's just been waiting for this
moment his entire life.
He's like fine, he's onretainer for this exact moment
hoping the world there was hishand, just hand over button and
like there's like a roomunderneath the studio that has
like a pen pad that you have togo through.
Then you have to like anotherdoor where you have to like scan
a thumb and there's like.
(49:33):
There's two statues one'stelling the truth and one only
tells lies there's then there'sa penile verification device,
and then the last room is just apodium with a vhs tape on it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Going back to family guy.
There's Guy.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
There's a scene like that where I don't even remember
what they're.
There's like a penileverification thing.
I think they're robbing a bank,it's like an Ocean's Eleven
Ripoff or something like thatand Quagmire Sticks his dick in
and it unlocks the door andPeter's like wow, how'd you do
that?
And he's like I just stuck mydick in and broke it.
Thanks, quagmire.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Well, everybody and broke it.
Thanks, quagmire, thank you,quagmire.
Well, everybody, that's it forthis episode.
Goodbye, bye.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
No, you can find us on all our shit, all our socials
, you know?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
just look us up Deludycom, patreoncom slash
deludypod.
Send us an email at deludypodat gmailcom.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
We're actually not going to air this episode, so if
you're hearing it live, this isthe only time.
Yeah, this is lost media.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Oh, we should.
That's hilarious.
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
There are a couple episodes that are lost media.
Now technically that's fair.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
We have recorded a couple.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
There's media episode that we did.
That is, I swear to God, one ofthe best SCPs we've ever done.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
In theory not lost.
I might have it here.
It might be on that broke-asslaptop.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
It is currently lost.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, it's currently lost.
If it's on the broke-ass laptop.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I've got it Because I have a whole backup of that
hard drive.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
The Apple one.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, that Apple computer doesn't even have that
hard drive.
The oh, the apple one, yeah,the apple, that apple computer
doesn't even have a hard drivein it, or I don't think that's I
don't think that's where werecorded.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I think we.
I think jason lost the sd cardthat it was on oh did he.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I thought it was a corrupted upload onto the no,
because we we recorded that wellafter we moved out of that
recording studio gotcha.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, uh, we had um, we did sound effects, we did
everything.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
It was so it was.
So it was such a funny episodetoo.
It was so funny oh, we got sodrunk it was just, it was so
good, oh my god anyway, justlook us up on all social medias
too.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
We're probably there.
I don't know.
I don't run the social mediasanymore because social media is
poison.
Yeah, all I got to say is that.
And then, if you find any lostmedia or anything you think is
lost media, upload that shit toYouTube.
Don't make it lost, no more,let's see it.
Let's see it.
If you find old VHSs aroundyour house or your parents house
(52:05):
, your grandma's house Fucking,upload that shit.
There might be something spicyon it, like your grandma's old
porn or something I don't know.
Is that what you got?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Nice, I'm deafening.
Doug, what do you got, I guess,film yourself doing despicable
(52:41):
acts and then delete it and loseit never upload it.
Do something horrible and filmit, but Never upload it.
Do something horrible and filmit.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But don't upload it.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
But tell us about it, put it on rottencom or whatever
.
It's not, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Bye, everybody, have a day.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Bye, don't look under the internet, you.
Don't look under the internet.
Oh hell yeah.
Hi everyone.
Are we on the?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
watch.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, we've been yeah hell yeah, hi everyone, yeah,
we've been.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, we are Sick.
Hello everybody, welcome tothis.
This is the podcast.
It's Don't Look Under theInternet.
You've seen us, you love us.
You've heard about us.
Maybe your mom has, I don'tfucking know.
But I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Mike and that's matt I'm a blind box of anxiety and
self-loathing and that's dougyou never know what emotion
you'll get today.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, and uh, jason's not here today.
He's off buying 40 000 labubusto sell on xstockcom or
something, stockx, whatever thatsite's called uh, yeah yeah,
yeah, um, but yeah, we have someinteresting shit for you today.
Um, first and foremost, gonnaskip over housekeeping.
Don't really have anyhousekeeping.
(01:18):
We don't have any new subs rude, uh yeah kind of rude.
What are Come on?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
now I saw somebody bought merch yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh shit they bought merch, I think his name was Mike
Andrews, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm currently testing out.
Be on the lookout.
I guess I'll say keep a lookouton our shop on Dulycom in the
next coming weeks.
Here I've been testing some newmerch.
I've also adjusted some pricingbecause, you know, in this
economy, you know, shit hitseverybody.
So our prices have never beenlower.
Come on down to Big Al's ToyBarn.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's almost like we're not making anything off of
this anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So, literally, at this point, we are unfortunately
not really making anything.
I made it to be as cheap aspossible right now, just so we
could get some merch going offof this anymore.
So, literally, at this point,we are unfortunately not really
making anything.
I I made it to be as cheap aspossible right now, just so we
can get some merch going,because, at the end of the day,
I just want people to wear ourshit.
If we don't make money off it,it'd be what to do?
I just want people to have mylogo on their body somewhere.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Um so, I'm glad you did it with the new store,
because with our old merch storeyou could make it go negative
and every time somebody wouldorder something on the old star
it would charge my credit card.
So you could have really fuckedme.
I had to pay like the shippingand processing costs and then I
would get it back later when it,when our payout would come.
Oh god, you could have with theold store.
(02:41):
If somebody had gone in andbought like $2,000 worth of
t-shirts and we had priced themat the wrong margin, I could
have lost a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You, I would have had to sell the house.
So go to dilutycom, get somemerch and then be on the lookout
for new merch.
It's on there.
That's the housekeeping.
So, happy pride, everybody.
There is some.
Yeah, happy pride.
I made our shit cheaper.
Happy pride.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Mike's like anyways.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I, a while ago, if you guys recall, we did have
some different merch on our siteand that merch is gone.
It's all gone.
It's almost like it's Lost andit's never to be seen again,
kind of like the topic oftoday's episode.
Right, boys, we're talkingabout lost media today.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Um mike, I like your unabomber chic.
You, you've taken on the therole of unabomber ironically I
did.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Uh, I was able to just now send your package out
today, so doug I you open amysterious package from me.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I literally thought about wearing my black dad hat
right as we were about to recordand I was like nah, last time I
did, doug called me a Unabomber.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm sure you have a black dad.
That's cool.
It's inclusive as fuck.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, yeah, my first dad died, so I got my
government-issued black dad as areplacement.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, we haven't even said, we haven't even done
anything today.
I haven't even started.
Good God, what is?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, we're doing Lost Media.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Alright, we're doing Lost Media today.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Everyone, this is a good time.
I had us.
I had the boys find some moreLost Media and we're going to
talk about it today.
We have some fun ones, I think.
And who wants to fucking gofirst?
Um, I can knock it out.
Uh, doug, do you want to gofirst?
Matt, who?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
yeah, that's fine, I can go first.
Mine's uh, mine's pretty chill,you know, um.
So I've been going through,personally, a very large
nostalgia kick.
I guess I would call it ofwatching just old shit from my
childhood and not to get offtopic, but the Pee Wee Herman
(05:19):
documentary just came out andit's fucking really good and I
recommend everybody watch it, ifyou can.
Anyways, been watching a bunchof like nostalgic shit and this
is like the perfect lost foundmedia that I found.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now, uh, most of us 90s babies and I say most of us
media p we got arrested for,because I don't think we can
talk about that it tells youexactly what movie it was and
all that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's great, um, but no, uh, so this is crybaby lane.
This was a 2000s nickelodeontelevision horror film, um, that
basically gained notoriety as apiece of lost media due to its
like pretty much like straightdisappearance after its initial
broadcast.
Um, so this premiered in, so itactually broadcasted like on on
(06:08):
air, like it went live yeah, sothis was the, this was uh so
kind of similar in the vein oflike how uh, like the disney
channel would do like their ownmovies, you know um and comms.
Yeah, sure, uh, nickelodeonbasically would do their own
things too.
And so, in october of 20, oroctober 28, 2000, um, during
(06:30):
their snick halloween special,uh, a 70 minute film um aired,
called crybaby lane, and thefilm follows two brothers who
are basically enjoying listeningto ghost stories from a local
undertaker, and one of the talesthat they listen to involves
conjoined twins, one good andone evil, who end up dying from
(06:53):
a liver disease and basicallythe farmer's father saws them
apart post-mortem, burying thegood twin in a cemetery and the
evil twin um near like a dirtroad called crybaby lane, and
basically the two brothersattempt to contact the good twin
during a seance butinadvertently awaken the evil
(07:13):
twin, and that's what themovie's about.
So, yeah, so, basically, afterits initial airing, um, it was
never rebroadcast or released onhome media or anything like
that, and uh, this like absenceled to a lot of speculation
online that the film was banneddue to its, like incredibly
disturbing content.
(07:33):
And then there were like, uh,reports of like parental
complaints and, um, later on,nickelodeon was just like, oh,
the film had simply just beenforgotten, like you know, like
it's just we don't know where itis.
And then, in august of 2011.
So like a full fucking 11 yearslater, uh, a reddit user
(07:54):
uploads a vhs recording of theoriginal broadcast, uh, sparking
this renewed interest, andactually ends up leading to teen
nick re-airing the film onoctober 31st of 2011.
So that's kind of how itdisappeared and reappeared, um,
but during its disappearance,everybody was like describing it
as like this, just likehorrifically gory, like movie,
(08:17):
and that it was like way scarierthan like you know, something
that should be airing onnickelodeon should be, and that
there was just like this bigcraze about like how, how crazy
it was and there actually evenspawned a whole creepypasta that
was made fully because of thismovie, um, which you can just,
if you just google Crybaby Lanecreepypasta, it'll pop up.
(08:39):
Basically, in a nutshell, it'sjust a guy being like hey, I
worked on this film.
What you saw online was waydifferent than the final cut.
The guy who has the final cutis a fucking creep and blah,
blah, blah and it goes into abunch of stuff like that.
A guy that has all this crazyold, gory Nickelodeon-cut
episodes of Spongebob and stufflike that.
(09:02):
It's a fun read, it's fine.
Have you actually read?
It's a fun read, it's it's fine.
I want to tie in.
Have you actually read it?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
uh, yeah, I read it earlier.
Does it tie into the likesquidward suicide?
Uh, it doesn't really go it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It.
It kind of alludes to somethinglike that, but it doesn't go
over that.
Um, it just says like, oh, thisguy I should have had it up.
But basically it's just a guybeing like yeah, like I saw that
, like the, the original cut,it's like fucked up.
Um, but a lot of people,basically because of that creepy
pasta, we're like hey, you knowthis, this, we need to find
this media and like, you know,this is crazy, like we need,
(09:36):
this is some real lost mediahere.
Uh, and then finally, when itwas re-uploaded, everyone was
like wow, uh, this is likepretty corny, not very
frightening at all.
Um, kind of just feels like areally long episode of like are
you afraid of the dark?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
that's the vibe I was kind of getting from it too,
when you were describing it yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's kind of funny because, like, I feel like it
almost had a better legacy whenit wasn't found, um, and it was
actually truly never lost, to befair, because nickelodeon
clearly had it like ready to go,like after somebody uploaded it
online.
So I don't know, I thought itwas interesting.
It was pretty, uh, prettyrandom yeah but I actually did
(10:16):
watch.
Be on youtube now yeah, you canfind it all on youtube.
I actually watched it.
Um, it's fine.
It literally just feels like aare you afraid of the dark
episode just longer.
But yeah, that was my, that wasmy lost, lost, found media.
That's kind of lost found, lost, found I.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So and I wonder if, uh, nickelodeon did decide not
to like.
I know that they aired it once,but they decided to keep it off
like after that because, uh,like the 2000s, I feel like
Nickelodeon was kind of doingpretty good when it came to like
movies, because they had, likeSnow Day, they had the Rugrats
(10:54):
movie, like the Wild Thornberrymovies all those went to
theaters.
So I bet they're like do wereally want to try doing horror?
I don't know if that's a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Um, my, my thought is that it probably did poor
numbers because they aired it onfucking like a couple days
before halloween and I mean,like I, I don't know, I it just
depends, like it, you know shit.
I was all of like nine yearsold in 2000, so like I probably
(11:23):
wasn't staying up that lateeither to watch that stuff if I
was.
So October 28th 2000, oh no, Imean like for the towers did it
say like what time?
because you said late oh, I justassumed I I don't know, I could
probably find it though becausewe're talking SNCC.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I mean, I feel like that shit would probably be like
9 o'clock, you know, 9 or 10.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
8 pm to 10 pm.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yep, I just pulled it up too, yep.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's kind of cool, though, and they found it again,
which I like, but also fuck you, nick.
You just had this sitting in acellar and you weren't doing
anything with it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, they just see all these people online talking
about it but they're like, nah,we'll just kind of keep it in
our back pocket.
I wonder what that was about.
What was that about?
What that is.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They probably just cut a bunch of stuff from it
when they re-released it, that'sprobably what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The original was way worse, I don't know, but I I
remember things way differentlyfrom what that, what they are.
Now you know what I mean.
So like people might be, likeoh, so gory and everything, but,
like doug said, you wereprobably like what?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
like seven, eight, nine right but they probably
watched it so I saw signs on aplane when I was like 10 years
old and I remember being fuckinghorrified.
Yeah, and science isn't eventhat scary.
I mean mean, it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
There's that one real good scene, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, like the birthday party scene.
I remember that, just beinghorrifying to me.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Spooky.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Not anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Now it's just a movie .
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now, it's just a movie.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Now, it's just kind of silly.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Matt, what do you?
Got me boyo.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I had an idea before I go over my stuff we should
make this a mini series and justcall it diluted, lost and found
oh, that's fun.
Yeah, we should do that we'llworkshop that later lost and
found.
So my lost, madidia.
I got a lost and a found.
My lost is Jojo.
(13:25):
I got a lost and a found.
Um, my lost is Jojo's BizarreAdventure Phantom Blood.
So if you know anything aboutJojo's Bizarre Adventure, uh.
I don't Let me pull it up the.
So the anime that we know nowwas a series that started in
2012, but um, jojo's bizarreadventure, phantom blood.
(13:51):
Like phantom blood, is thefirst section of the manga, and
the manga is pretty old.
So before the 2012 series thatwe know now, there was a movie
that was released in 2007, andit was only released in Japanese
theaters, and so this movie wascalled JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
(14:11):
, phantom Blood, and apparentlythis existed maybe as early as
2004, because some of the onlyfootage we actually have from
this film now was released as ateaser alongside the jojo's ps2
game, so sony basically usedthis movie as like promotional
(14:32):
content for the ps2 game, andthen it got a theatrical release
in 2007 and the studio thatmade this movie lost the rights
to Jojo, so after the theatricalrelease was done, it never came
out on DVD or anything likethat, so there was never
actually a copy of this moviereleased to the public.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Unless you had a bootlegger in the theater Right
exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I guess apparently nobody did record it
Dang, and to this day we have nocopies of it.
Um, the first 16 minutes of themovie was released as a uh, the
first 16 minutes without thedialogue, so with all the
dialogue cut out, but just thescore was released to a
(15:20):
university as educationalmaterial for a course in a
japanese university.
So we have like the first 16minutes of just footage.
But the only actual footage wehave, like unmodified footage we
have of the film is that teaserthat came out alongside the ps2
game and it's like a minute anda half long.
You can find it on youtube, um,but some attempts from the ova.
(15:49):
Yeah, so okay, uh, the.
You have to be specific, so youhave to put in jojo's bizarre
adventure phantom blood 2007.
Um, and I don't even thinkthere's like a wikipedia page
(16:10):
about this.
The only thing you'll find isthe from the lost media wiki,
and the lost media wiki articleis titled jojo's bizarre
adventure phantom blood,partially found anime film based
on manga 2007.
Um, so this was like a full-assfeature-length movie 91 minutes
.
That is just completely lost totime.
(16:32):
Attempts have been made to liketry to contact people involved
with the film and see if we canget it released.
We don't even know if there isa copy of this movie that still
exists in anyone's hands, as faras I can tell.
Um, so a guy named uh junichihayama, who is an anime artist
who's worked in the industry forlike 30 plus years and has
(16:55):
worked on several differentthings, like yugioh and a couple
other high-profile movies.
He was the character designerand chief animator on this movie
, and somebody asked him in aninterview in 2022 if uh like why
the movie had never beenreleased to the public, and all
he said was I don't want you tosee angry, see me angry and
(17:18):
pissed off, so it's better thatI don't answer this question, so
wait, was that from iraqi huh,the creator of jojos, or no,
that was from junichi hayama,who was the he?
He's just an animator, he's ananime artist.
He was the chief characterdesigner on the movie.
So the interviewer asked In2007, a movie adapting the
(17:40):
Phantom Blood part of JoJo'sBizarre Adventure was released
in Japanese theaters.
This movie has never seen anyrelease outside of its theater
distribution.
You worked on it as a characterdesigner and animation director
.
Is any reason why this moviehad never, never had any home
video release?
And all I said was, like I said, I don't want you to see me
angry and pissed off, so it'sbetter that I don't answer this
question, which leads to theidea that maybe there was like
(18:05):
some sort of internal politicswith the company or something
that resulted in this notgetting released, or maybe, um,
the people who own the rights tojojo's now don't want it
released and are actively liketrying to keep it from being
released for some reason.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm not real sure it's got to be something like
that, because it can't be likethey don't have a copy or
something, because if it had atheatrical release, that means
there's film reels out there youwould think that theaters you
know, yeah, it so it has to besomething it looks like a lot of
the rumors are that uh, iraqi,the guy who created uh jojo's uh
(18:43):
did not like the way that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh, what was it?
Jppppp or whatever.
Yeah, jppp, the studio did it.
Appp, yeah, appp.
All right Either way, he didn'tlike it, but there's no actual
definitive statement from himconfirming this.
It's just rumors.
It looks like.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, as far as I can tell, everybody that's actually
involved with this or has beeninvolved with JoJo's since is
very quiet about it and I wonderif there's like NDA shit that
went into it as well.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I love JoJo's and I need to see this.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean the minute and a half teaser.
Like I said, you can find it onYouTube.
It doesn't look bad.
I mean, the animation is prettygood.
It's kind of got like an older,grittier style to it than the
newer anime does.
Um, yeah, I'd be interested inthis getting released someday.
I don't know what that wouldtake or, like I said, if there's
actually any, a copy of it outthere.
(19:42):
You would think, if there is acopy of it out there somewhere
sitting in an office orsomething that somebody it's
like somebody would have takenone for the team, you know yeah
right, I have a weird feelingthat you're probably going to
see it released in 2027, becausedidn't you say it came out in
2007?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
yeah yeah, something's gonna happen where
it's like 20th anniversary.
This lost footage was found andit's coming out an unlimited
release and they'll sell afuckload of copies.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, well, I don't know, the film itself was a
celebration of the 25thanniversary of something.
I think it may have been thecreator's beginning of his
career or something like that.
So yeah, I don't know.
Or maybe it is just like a plotto just drum up hype and get
people talking about it, whichit's not working very well,
(20:33):
because I would have thought Iwould have heard of this.
I hadn't heard of it, and Imean, I guess this is a pretty
big thing within, like the lostmedia community, which is not
something I know much about yeah, well, I don't think that was
the original intent.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I bet I'm.
I would not be surprised if itwas like you said originally,
where it was like sorry, myhat's all fucked up.
I wouldn't be surprised if itwas like you said originally,
whereas, like since they lostthe licensing fees, like they
just couldn't get a distributorand like it just became too
costly, at that point they'rejust like, yeah, we're not going
to make our money back, don'teven yeah, I'm pretty sure they
(21:08):
lost the rights to the franchiselike literally a month or two
after the it stopped showing intheaters, which is probably why
it never got around to beingreleased in any, and I bet, I
bet, like whoever picked up thethe rights doesn't have rights
to like that film specificallybecause it was made under a
different company or something.
(21:28):
I bet there's probably a wholelegal mumble jumbo that's going
into it, but I I bet thosejapanese lawyers, man, they're
fucking ruthless.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So joker nintendo typically too, is like a really
weird ip, so like, uh, I guessthe way to think about it too
here is that, like I have, Ihave a dvd, a japanese dvd of of
the OVA of the original seriesfrom 1994.
Like, it's old as piss.
(21:56):
And then they did a bunch ofstuff throughout the years and
it's taken them like a lot ofthe actual manga that has been
out, like, for example, thenewest one that's going to come
out is called Steel Ball Run.
They did a bunch of like.
Jojo's did a bunch of stuffwith netflix and then netflix
(22:16):
just lost the ip.
So now they're doing it with anew, a new company, like again
like, and the they're about todo steel ball run, which came
out in like 2000.
Like they're like way behind onlike animation to manga and
it's like.
It's a very, very weirdsituation and jojo's fans are
well, myself included, are verypatient, apparently because that
(22:38):
shit is wild.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's why I'm wondering if I mean it'd be cool
if they they released it, butI'm wondering if they're just
like, yeah, a, we don't havetime.
B uh, it'd be a headache to getthis thing distributed because
we have too much shit already toworry about.
And see, I mean, I'm not, Iknow nothing about jojo.
I don't know how big it is, butand you might be able to attest
to this but is jojo even likethat big of an anime?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
like, is it?
I think it's pretty big amonganime nerds, but I don't think
it's like it's exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Are they weighing the options we're like is it, are
we?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
it's definitely underrated.
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I bet they're like is it even worth putting time and
money into getting thisdistributed when it's not going
to make our money back?
There's probably a money, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think it's a big enough series that it would
probably be worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think it would be worth it for sure, and I think I
tend to lean towards the factthat I think it's a big enough
series that it would probably beworth it.
I think it would be worth itfor sure, and I think I tend to
lean towards the fact that Ithink Iraqi just didn't like
what was made.
To be honest, because if youever read any articles about
this guy, he is like literallyin love with his characters.
If he likes a character likeenough, like he's going to put
all of his time and effort intomaking that character also loved
(23:50):
by the people who are watchingit and like I feel, like I feel
like he would be the one to belike nah, this shit sucks, I
hate it, get it out of here.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
like yeah, but at what point do they have the
authority to do that?
Because at what point is it?
The company has more power thanthe creator.
I mean, look at dragon ball.
Uh, toriyama had almost no takein GT and GT still got made.
He had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think that's why it takes so long for these to come
out, because Araki has thefinal say on everything.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I can't weigh in on the complexities of how the
JoJo's IP is controlled.
To be fair, I don't know.
I'm also not thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I don't know, and you know I'm I'm also not thinking
about it, I'm also a littlewrong, because I forgot that.
That's how studio Ghibli worksis like once that creator dies,
no one, no one, makes charactersor like does any like story
over a Ghibli except that guy?
So once he's gone, like they'relike what the fuck do we do?
We got to move on, guy.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So once he's gone, like they're like what the fuck
do we do?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
we gotta move on because we're gonna get some
angry weaves in the fuckingcomments I know.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right, that's fair.
All right, my found media isthe original pilot of the first
episode of family guy.
So this is something that wasactually found a couple months
ago, um, and until then wassomewhat lost.
So, um, there is a pilotepisode of family guy that you
(25:14):
could could always find, um,which is like the first episode
where peter swears he's notgonna get drunk and then he gets
drunk and um, but this pilot islike the pilot that seth
mcFarlane made that he likeshowed to the studios and stuff
or showed to Fox to likeactually get Family Guy made.
(25:35):
And so, prior to a couple monthsago, I think, only like seven
minutes of this was availableand it was released in volume
two of the Family Guy DVD set in2003.
And then there were bits andpieces of it that were released
in an interview with SethMacFarlane in 1999.
But the entire 16 minute longthing hadn't ever been seen by
(26:00):
anybody who didn't work on it orwork at the studio, until a
couple of months ago, whensomebody was just digging around
on the internet and discoveredthe personal website of a man
named Robert Paulson who was ananimator who worked on drawing
the frames for the pilot, and hehas a personal website where he
(26:23):
just like shows off things thathe's worked on and in his
portfolio on his website.
The whole thing is just there,like the whole 16 minutes of the
pilot.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So it wasn't even that it was lost, we just
weren't looking in the rightspot.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, that's funny though, yeah, if you go to
robertolsoncom and go to motiongraphics and animation and then,
scroll down to the middle ofthe page there's this little old
(26:59):
school looking cartoon thingand yeah, it's just the full
fucking 16 minutes of the firstepisode of Family Guy it's a
little bit different.
Like the animation is a littlebit different.
The voices are super fuckingweird.
Chris's voice is real weird, isit just fucking?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Patrick Marlin doing all of them.
Yeah, it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Brian, but high is what Chris sounds like.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
A lot of pilots like that.
The American Dad pilot was likethat too.
Everyone sounded weird andlooked different.
It was very strange.
It also um this bless youDouglas.
This also reminded me that thisone reminded me of.
Um, there was, uh, it wasn'tlost media per se, but um, there
was this whole investigationwith Futurama, where, um, oh,
(27:53):
they changed the line before theguy gets in the tube.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
What, oh?
So there's this theory that inthe first episode of Futurama, I
think, the guy walks up to thefirst time you see the transport
tubes that you get sucked intothe first guy that walks up to
it, before Fry walks up to it,says something like JFK Regional
Airport or something like that.
I forget exactly what the lineis, and then he gets sucked into
(28:18):
the tube.
But they changed it from thepilot episode to the episode
that aired.
I thought that's what you weretalking about.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, so something that people were theorizing about.
So in the show I mean thiscan't be spoilers, the show's
old as piss.
But in the show Fry, at onepoint in season one goes back in
time to before he gets kickedinto the freezing chamber and he
discovers that Nibbler is theone that pushes him.
(28:46):
When he's leaning back in thechair you discover that Nibbler
pushes him and that's the reasonthat fry gets into the time
chamber or into the freezingchamber yeah, the shadow so
there.
So nibbler's shadow can be seenin that.
And people are like, huh, Iwonder if you can see nibbler's
shadow in the pilot, yeah, andof of it.
(29:07):
And when you watch the pilot onlike comedy central or netflix
or wherever, um, you can see,it's there.
But I believe the creators werelike, oh yeah, we went back and
digitally added that shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It wasn't there to begin with no, they proved that
that's not the case exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, so they're like well, wait a minute.
So they're like is this true?
So someone found, like you weresaying, they found like a test
pilot that they would use tolike um see who would take the
rights like mail to the studiosexactly.
Yeah, they found the shadow inthese like vhs tapes that they
would mail to the studios andthey saw the shadow was there,
meaning that that whole plotline has been thoroughly thought
(29:45):
through this entire time.
But for the longest time peoplewere like was it digitally
added, was it not?
We got to get to the bottom ofthis um, and that kind of
reminded me of your family guyone.
That's very funny, um, but I Ilove that stuff, um with like
lost media where it's like, didthis happen?
We got to go back and find it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yada, yada, yada yeah , it's pretty cool.
I've actually been watchingmore lost media like videos on
youtube lately, um, before weeven decided we were going to do
this episode.
Shit's wild.
You get some really weird lostmedia stuff, just really really
random shit that doesn't reallyhave any significance to my life
, but I'm like that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I found out that a lot of the first seasons of
Doctor who from the 60s, a lotof the episodes are just dude.
Didn't know that they're justfound in a.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
There was a bunch found in the uh, the basement of
a mormon church.
Yeah, I almost went with thatstory for this episode.
I was like that's interestingfinally a use for mormons.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Sorry, any mormon listeners the line.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh no, they gave up a long time ago probably.
The line that I was talkingabout was um.
Before the guy gets sucked intothe tube and the episode that
actually aired on tv, he sayssays Radio City, mutant Hall,
and then in the pilot he saysJFK Jr Airport.
But they changed the namebecause John F Kennedy Jr died
(31:20):
right before it came out, sothey redubbed it.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Oh, interesting, so they changed it to RFK Airport.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
RFK Jr Airport.
What Take me to the?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
raw milk factory for it, oh God.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Take me to the raw milk factory, all right?
Well, I got mine here, boys, soI have.
I'm going to talk aboutHeartman today and, matt, if you
want to throw up some imagery,if you just go to Google and
type in Heartman Lost Media,heartman Lost Media, you'll get
the images.
If you just type in Heartman,you won't get them.
Man lost media heart man lostmedia, you'll get the images.
If you just type in heart man,you won't get them.
But, um, basically, heart manis a series of images that were
(31:55):
found online that had no realexplanation for where they came
from.
Um, these images that were foundonline depicted a man in a
heart suit, um, and it's like,it's kind of like just like a
black zoot suit, and then with abunch of like what look like
foam hearts, just like all overthe heads, one big heart.
He's got like antennas comingoff that are just like a bunch
(32:16):
of hearts all down, like thesleeves and his legs is just a
heart, heart, heart, heart,heart.
So it's not just like, it's nota suit.
That's one big heart, it's abunch of small ones all over.
But these, these like Polaroidshots, um showed this man with
(32:47):
this heart suit out like eatingwith friends.
He's out dancing in the city,he's reading newspapers, just
kind of doing stuff around thetown, um, but the mystery is who
the fuck is heart man and wheredo these photos come from?
So a lot of people that gotinto heart man here, um, figured
the easiest way to go aboutthis is to reverse image search
on google to see if they couldfind the earliest upload of
these pictures, and they found atumblr account called dog pile,
who is an archivist who runs afashion-based web archive.
(33:09):
They basically scan a bunch ofscans and pages from fashion
magazines all the way back fromthe early 60s to the early 2000s
, so this guy's got a hugecatalog of just fashion magazine
and articles.
Here is where we found aHeartman post on February 8th
(33:29):
2019.
So far, 2019 is the first timethese Heartman images came to
the internet.
In the description on theTumblr post you find a link to a
site called Mother Culture.
This site is shut down now.
You can't really access it, butthere are archived pages of the
(33:51):
site that show it was an onlineart gallery with scans from
Dogpile.
So Dogpile apparently workedwith this Mother Culture site.
Now is this the source of heartman, do you think, uh, people
(34:12):
were like, oh, so it was just afashion statement thing, um, but
no, you, you, you don't thinkso, because dog pile scans
magazine, uh, magazines andarticles.
He doesn't actually like makethem himself.
So nothing from this motherculture art like gallery,
(34:33):
nothing from this is likeoriginal.
It's all like, uh, older scansthat are uploaded to this mother
culture site.
So heart man wasn't made forthis website, for this art
gallery.
It was just uploaded there.
So heart man is somewhere in amagazine.
They've been able to deducethat, considering this website
(34:53):
and this archivist just uploadshit from fashion magazines.
So they're like alright, thesepictures came from some form of
magazine.
We have no fucking idea whichone.
People reached out to dog pileand dog pile basically said that
the series of photos fromTumblr, including heart man, so
his entire Tumblr account um,they were intended to be
(35:16):
uncredited and confusing.
That was part of his likeconcept that he wanted to put up
there Just random fashionarticle and images uploads.
Um, he never, um, put like asource up.
He never puts up like aphotographer names, uh, article
names, nothing, it's just theimage.
And dog piles like, yeah, sorry, I can't help you.
(35:37):
The whole point was be weirdand confusing.
So I have no reference point ofwhere these came from.
So people were like, alright,fuck it, let's look at the
photos themselves and check fordetails.
So they were able to deduce bythe printing patterns of these
images in the magazine and thecolors that were used that these
(36:00):
stills were taken from a VHStape.
So these are stills from a VHSmovie, essentially stills from a
VHS movie.
Essentially.
They used image dating and theyalso explored the images even
more to figure out that thepictures were taken in a
timeline of roughly about 20years, somewhere between the
(36:20):
1970s and the 1990s, which isstill a very vague timeframe.
So that's not very helpful.
But they were like, hey, shit'sbeing done on a VHS tape.
This is a time frame when VHStapes were very popular in media
, so let's go from there.
They checked the vehicles thatwere in the background of some
of these pictures.
(36:40):
They found out that one of thevehicles was manufactured in
1979.
So that gives us, instead of atime frame of the early 70s or
just the 70s in general.
Now we know One of thesevehicles was manufactured in
1979.
So this gives us a rough yearto work off of.
Next, they looked at some of thelocations, some of the
(37:01):
buildings had text and bannerson them.
When were these from and where?
That's what they wanted tofigure out.
They traced one of thebuildings to being a theater in
genza, tokyo, um.
The theater had a billboard onthe side of it for that had a
date, um, for a performance.
It didn't say what theperformance was.
(37:22):
It was blocked out.
It's a little blurry, but youcould read the date.
It said august 1st.
So they asked the theater forum if they had any records of
any shows that were going on onAugust 1st, um.
They got four dates, but thesefour dates were still kind of
all over the place.
They were from like um 1979 andlike 1985 and like 1992.
(37:42):
And so they were still in thatlike 20 year gap.
So it wasn't all that helpful.
They were looking at A lot ofthese people that are involved
in this Hartman.
I guess mystery started.
Looking at more banners, theyfound one in the distance that
read the word B-E-T-E, which isapparently part of a phrase from
(38:08):
a performance that was at thattheater in 1982, in August.
So because of this one littlephrase we found the year that
the photos of the Hartman wastaken 1982.
So we were able to get it downjust like that Bam.
So after all this sleuthing,two more brand new heartman
(38:29):
images popped up.
These images linked to a flickraccount called 35 millimeter
film photographers.
This, uh, these images werefrom 2006.
Now here's the weird thing, thethese new images that they
found.
Here's the weird thing, thesenew images that they found.
The costume looked entirelydifferent.
(38:51):
It was way more up-to-date.
It looked like Instead oflooking like foam hearts, they
looked more like kind of like acrushed velvet kind of look to
them.
They looked like you know thosecheap plushes you get from a
shitty crane machine that hasthat weird crushed velvet feel
to them.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
This wasn't even its final form.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So here's the thing.
So yeah, so it ends Jojo'scharacter if I've ever seen one
right.
instead of being like a blackzoot suit with all these foam
foam hearts on him, like thehead was one big, like fuzzy,
like plush looking thing.
The whole thing was like onegiant pink suit and like it
still had those like multiplehearts going on it, but they
were just more up-to-datelooking and people were like, oh
(39:33):
shit, what is this?
This has to be the same guy,right?
There's no way that there couldbe two heart men out there.
It can't be a coincidence likethat, especially because I found
out that the new heart manimages, the new guy in the heart
man suit, was 20 minutes awayfrom the old heart man photos
were taken, so we got some shitgoing on here got some shit
(39:58):
going on we got some shit goingon here.
They're able to find a video ofthe new heart man performing at
a japanese art contest and hewas like doing songs.
Um, they found his page.
They found they found a blogpage where we find out this
heart man's name is I love Yuta.
When looking deeper into hisblog, you find out that he's
(40:21):
basically basically like thismascot character for like love.
Like he does a bunch of likechildren's songs about how you
should like love each other.
He talks about like theenvironment, how we should take
care of it, things like that.
There's a video, like aninterview video.
It's like six minutes long orso.
It's basically just like whatdo you do?
What were your inspirations forthe costume?
(40:45):
He lists off his inspirationsas just being, you know, love.
The heart is a symbol for love.
We're going to go off of that.
But he does not mention the oldheart man.
Not once is the old heart manmentioned as an inspiration or
is he ever referenced here.
So, oddly enough, this was adead end as well.
(41:06):
New heart man has nothing to dowith old Hartman, even though
the locations were 20 minutesapart from each other.
And, matt, if you want, it's upto you.
If you want to look into mynote here I have a bunch of
pictures of Hartman.
The last one is a comparison ofthe two Hartmans, so you can
see the old costume and the newcostume.
(41:28):
That's completely up to you.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I need somebody to get on this for me because, okay
, so while I was google imagingheartman, I found that there was
like heartman fan art.
It's like, well, that makessense, right?
Um, yeah, so what I was doingwhile you were explaining, the
last bit that you wereexplaining was, uh, checking to
see if there was any heart man,rule 44 or rule 34.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Oh, there isn't.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I at least none, at least none that I can find.
So somebody's got to get onthat.
I'm pretty sure that rule 35 isif you look it up and it
doesn't exist, you're obligatedto create it.
But uh, I'm not going to dothat.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, I don create it , but uh, yep, I'm not gonna do
that.
Yeah, I don't have the time forthat dog, I don't got the
skills yet.
Someone else get on that for me.
I would uh appreciate that.
Uh, my dad just messaged mesaying I am heart man, so that's
fun.
I forgot my mom was listening,which means my dad probably is
too that kind of freaked me outa little bit um, I'll drop in
the discord chat.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
I'll drop in the discord chat.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I'll drop in the discord chat real quick so
people can see the heart manimages I'm talking about.
I think I might've deleted, ohno, there it is.
I'll drop in the discord chatreal quick so people can see
heart man at his finest Heartman, heart man.
So here is the two differentheart men.
There you go.
They're in the discord chat,but, yeah, dead end.
(42:49):
So this new Heartman hasnothing to do with the old
Heartman.
Here's the thing, guys.
This is fucking it.
There's nothing else onHeartman.
This is lost media at its best.
The trail just went cold.
There's no other information onthis Heartman.
There's no other photos.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Heartman 2.0 has a whole ass.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Hartman guitar, I know right Like he's kind of
cool.
Hartar, hartar yeah, thatdoesn't sound like a word.
We should be saying Hartar, whyit just?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
sounds like a fish paste.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, a little bit Hartar sauce.
He, yeah, hartar, yeah, alittle bit heartar sauce.
He, uh, yeah, lost media.
He's just gone.
There's no other information onheartman.
This is blank gone forever,unless the man in the costume
comes out and is like yeah, Iwas fucking heartman dog, this
is what it was, it's just gone.
There's nothing else on thischaracter.
People think it might have justbeen like a mascot in this one
(43:45):
specific town in Japan like alocal business or something you
think it was a local business,or you?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
think it was just this dude was.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
This is just what this guy did that's the theory
is like is this just a guy thatdid that?
Like?
In my town I have the local guythat looks like einstein, that
just walks around just lookinglike einstein, he plays froth
and people call him.
You know, they call him thelocal Einstein.
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Maybe that's a shit it just immediately says it's a
fashion show, that guy that'sone of the.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
That's what they think.
Because of dog piles uploads,because dog pile that's what I'm
saying.
Magazine, you know, I'm sayingyeah, I mean yeah, no one has
any other info on him, though iswhat I'm saying.
The theory is that it's just afashion statement thing, or that
he's just a local mascot, butthere's no for-sure proof,
because they can't find any Wildshit.
(44:37):
Good, good, good, fuck you,hartman.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
All right, well, I got one last little one.
It's very short.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
When I did Google Hartman Rule 34, I mostly got Dr
Hartman from Family Guy, whichis an interesting crossover.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Before you start, doug, I have one small thing I
just want to mention.
I've done no research on it, Ijust think it's very fascinating
.
We all know about how ChrisFarley was supposed to be Shrek
and then he died.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, I almost went for that one too.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, so there was a very small amount of audio you
could find, uh, not a smallamount.
You can find a lot of the audioof, uh, chris Farley doing the
um, the audio for the movie, butthere's no visuals to it.
I think, like a year ago,people found like a six minute
video or something that wasfully um, something that was
(45:30):
fully, um, fully animated, thathas chris farley's voice and
everything to it, um, so that'skind of fascinating how we found
animation to go with the audio.
Um, look into it if you'd like.
Uh, there's this little thingthat I found that I wanted to.
Just how do we know that's nota?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
uh, yeah, right I, I love chris farley, but I think I
think it was a good decisionthat it Well okay, how do I say?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
this politely it was a good decision.
He died.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I think it ended up better for the Shrek
franchise.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
From the audio I heard it didn't sound right.
I know Mike Myers is thereference point now because he
just did it, but that Scottishaccent he does with it.
Yeah, it hits.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Can you imagine?
Imagine maybe the guy fromSmash Mouth wouldn't be a
fucking alcoholic and died?
You know, if Chris Farley didTrek?
Speaker 3 (46:16):
who's to say, you know but I thought that was
fascinating yeah, no, there's alot of interesting ones.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
We'll definitely have to do more of this.
Deloitte lost and found yeah,but the last one that I have is
the uh, the cnn doomsday video,so basically all right.
It's also unknown as the turnerdoomsday video, so it's a one
minute pre-recorded segmentintended to air on cnn in the
event of a global catastrophe.
(46:43):
Uh, it was commissioned by tedturner before the network's uh,
like 1980 launch and itbasically is just a video of
members of the us army, navy,air force and marine bands
performing a christian hymn nearmy god to thee, um and it ismn
(47:08):
is associated with the titanic'sfinal moments.
Um and basically, um.
This video was stored in thearchives, labeled turner's
doomsday video and theinstruction with the instruction
hold for release till uh end ofthe world confirmed.
And then, uh, basically, theserumors had spread around for
years and in 2015, uh, it becamepublicly available because a
(47:32):
former CNN intern leaked thefootage, having discovered,
basically having discovered itin his internship, and then he
just shared the video throughJalopnik, which I believe is a
website for like cars and techor something like that, really
kept him off the trail with thatone he didn't put it to like
fucking one, two, three lockeror whatever it's called I don't
(47:53):
know, but yeah, you can actuallyfind this online and it's like
really just it's kind of eerie,I don't know.
It's like it's just weird, it'snot even like, it's not even
scary, like yeah, it do becreepy looking for no fucking
reason what's it called turner?
Doomsday movie Turner.
Doomsday yeah, like you, theway it looks is like it's kind
of like zoomed out really far infront of like this band playing
(48:14):
the music and it's just like Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It's creepy to a degree, but so the context of
this is just when we have nohope left.
They're just like fuck it.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Play the video yeah, cause you know we're gonna turn
to CNN when a meteor is gonnahit the earth or some shit.
Right, but uh, yeah, that wasit.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I thought it was kind of creepy and weird imagine
telling that to the people thatare in that video, like, hey,
this is the last thing.
A lot of people are gonna seebefore they die the performance
that we're gonna do right now isnot going to be seen unless the
world's going to blow up.
So give it your all guys.
Come on Really, put your heartinto it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I'm trying to understand the set of
circumstances that would lead tolike we know everything's
fuck-fucked, but we have enoughtime for somebody to consciously
be like.
Play the video.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Jimmy put the tape in .
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, there's just like a panic button that you
just hit and it just plays.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
They have one guy who's just been waiting for this
moment his entire life.
He's like fine, he's onretainer for this exact moment
hoping the world there was hishand, just hand over button and
like there's like a roomunderneath the studio that has
like a pen pad that you have togo through.
Then you have to like anotherdoor where you have to like scan
a thumb and there's like.
(49:33):
There's two statues one'stelling the truth and one only
tells lies there's then there'sa penile verification device,
and then the last room is just apodium with a vhs tape on it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Going back to family guy.
There's Guy.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
There's a scene like that where I don't even remember
what they're.
There's like a penileverification thing.
I think they're robbing a bank,it's like an Ocean's Eleven
Ripoff or something like thatand Quagmire Sticks his dick in
and it unlocks the door andPeter's like wow, how'd you do
that?
And he's like I just stuck mydick in and broke it.
Thanks, quagmire.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Well, everybody and broke it.
Thanks, quagmire, thank you,quagmire.
Well, everybody, that's it forthis episode.
Goodbye, bye.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
No, you can find us on all our shit, all our socials
, you know?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
just look us up Deludycom, patreoncom slash
deludypod.
Send us an email at deludypodat gmailcom.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
We're actually not going to air this episode, so if
you're hearing it live, this isthe only time.
Yeah, this is lost media.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Oh, we should.
That's hilarious.
I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
There are a couple episodes that are lost media.
Now technically that's fair.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
We have recorded a couple.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
There's media episode that we did.
That is, I swear to God, one ofthe best SCPs we've ever done.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
In theory not lost.
I might have it here.
It might be on that broke-asslaptop.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
It is currently lost.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, it's currently lost.
If it's on the broke-ass laptop.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I've got it Because I have a whole backup of that
hard drive.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
The Apple one.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, that Apple computer doesn't even have that
hard drive.
The oh, the apple one, yeah,the apple, that apple computer
doesn't even have a hard drivein it, or I don't think that's I
don't think that's where werecorded.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I think we.
I think jason lost the sd cardthat it was on oh did he.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I thought it was a corrupted upload onto the no,
because we we recorded that wellafter we moved out of that
recording studio gotcha.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, uh, we had um, we did sound effects, we did
everything.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
It was so it was.
So it was such a funny episodetoo.
It was so funny oh, we got sodrunk it was just, it was so
good, oh my god anyway, justlook us up on all social medias
too.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
We're probably there.
I don't know.
I don't run the social mediasanymore because social media is
poison.
Yeah, all I got to say is that.
And then, if you find any lostmedia or anything you think is
lost media, upload that shit toYouTube.
Don't make it lost, no more,let's see it.
Let's see it.
If you find old VHSs aroundyour house or your parents house
(52:05):
, your grandma's house Fucking,upload that shit.
There might be something spicyon it, like your grandma's old
porn or something I don't know.
Is that what you got?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Nice, I'm deafening.
Doug, what do you got, I guess,film yourself doing despicable
(52:41):
acts and then delete it and loseit never upload it.
Do something horrible and filmit, but Never upload it.
Do something horrible and filmit.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But don't upload it.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
But tell us about it, put it on rottencom or whatever
.
It's not, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Bye, everybody, have a day.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Bye, don't look under the internet, you.
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.