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Speaker 3 (00:17):
don't look under the internet oh shit, that's what
I'm talking about.
Keep all that in hello.
Everyone welcome to.
Don't look under the internet.
(00:38):
Barbara streisand's favoritepodcast.
She said it herself.
Has it written down.
She talked to GQ magazine aboutit.
That's Doug right up there orsomewhere.
That's Jason somewhere as well.
Yeah, I'm up here.
I'm above you, doug.
You have to say something.
Hey, all right, I'll do it.
(00:58):
I'll do it a little.
And there's Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're going to hear it.
Barbra Streisand, these arethere, matt.
Barbara Streisand, these arethere.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Barbara Streisand, and I'm Barbara Streisand and I
have my Barbara Streisand on thetrigger ready to go.
Have you heard the song,barbara Streisand?
Yes, everyone's heard that song.
Everyone's heard BarbaraStreisandy.
Alright, sing it then BarbaraStreisand.
Alright, sing it.
Then Barbara Streisand, do, do,do, do do do, got it in one.
(01:30):
Um.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Barbara Streisand is 83, so we're really running A
risk of running into another.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh no, barbara, do me a favor.
I need you to die like rightnow.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We already killed Betty White.
You can't break the street.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Otherwise you'll make it somebody else's fault.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We've done a couple of these where it's just like,
yep, they're dead.
Now it's the Deluty curse.
Anyway, I'm going to starttoday off with a little bit of
Deluty.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Housekeeping Housekeeping's fun House above
my head, head Above Mike's head,our house.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I'm gonna give a big old shout out let's play the
game.
Is your name good?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Is your name good?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't know.
Let's find out.
This is the segment of the showwhere we list off the name Of
people who give money and we'regonna judge the name, because
that's what you do to peoplethat give you money you beat
them down.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, you punch them squarely in the throat.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're going to judge how creative these names are
Ready.
First one, Isabella Perez.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's just your name .
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That's just your name .
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Cancel and re-sign up .
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But give more money this time around.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, more money.
You gotta pay a fee for signingup with your real name, fix
this.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We should make this like an exclusive thing where,
like, if you sign up for Patreonone time and you leave, you can
never come back, and then maybepeople will be like I need to
change my name, or we would justbe a lot less money yeah, the
bad business model part of thatone is coming out no repeat
(03:13):
customers.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm gonna give, I mean, isabella Perez yeah, it's
not the most creative name, butyou're giving us money.
I'm gonna give you two out offive it is your name, it's not
like an ugly name.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So like you got a good name I'm going to give you
two out of five.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It is your name, it is your name?
It's not like an ugly name.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So like you got a good name.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's not like Gertrude Rubio, it's not Lilith
Shugunan Shunt Like Gort Frumpusor some shit like that we also
have.
I don't remember if I shoutedthis one out before or not, so
I'm going to do it now.
Gizimo, gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Gizimo.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Mike can't pronounce it, so I'm giving it like a 6
just on that alone.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's how you know it's good you start the scale at
5 once you know, but you can'tpronounce it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, boys, that's going to conclude housekeeping,
housekeeping over Boys Woo.
Last time we got together wetalked about underwater
mysteries and I thought that wasvery fun.
But I figured what if we talkedabout a mystery that floats on
water?
You know what they say Floatlike a boat, sting like the
(04:33):
state of Philadelphia, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The state.
Keep going, Mike.
There's too much there toaddress right now.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You mean you could fly like an eagle, like the
Philadelphia Eagles yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
There you go, or or like seal, which is a water
piece.
There's so many connectionshere.
We're talking about not thefucking cheesesteak.
No, they're talking about thephiladelphia experiment, which
could be how the cheesesteak wascreated.
I guess we'll find out if youlisten.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
We'll give you all the sources.
We'll show you the way.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
I've been wanting to talk aboutthis for a while.
I like the concept of thePhiladelphia experiment.
I find it very enjoyable.
I like these stupid little Imean it's not stupid, what?
Uh, I like these totallytotally real, totally real
things absolutely legitimateyeah, um.
(05:35):
So I guess where do we start ifnot the beginning?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
absolutely.
Um, I'm guessing you guys mightwant to know what the fuck the
Philadelphia experiment is.
It's not like the thing thatled to the cream cheese.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think they just like force fed somebody a bunch
of Cream cheese just to see whathappens.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, it's like that one test from the movie Seven,
where you just force feed themspaghetti, but Sponsored by
Philadelphia cream cheese.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or they force you to fuck a prostitute, but the
prostitute is cream cheese justa giant, human sized glob of
cream cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I want to know what the control group looks like in
that experiment.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Anyway, philadelphia experiment is none of those
things.
Um, allegedly, allegedly, uh,was a top secret government
project and it was alsocodenamed operation rainbow, and
it was carried out under theauspices of who albert einstein
in accordance with his unifiedfield theory.
(06:44):
Um, one thing that we kind ofknow about the us right around
the mid 40s to late 40s is thatthey were definitely bidding on,
uh, german scientists becausethey were going nuts, dude, dude
.
A lot of them wanted to get outof Nazi Germany, and so the US
(07:06):
kind of took that as hey, we cansteal their brains.
I wonder why they wanted toleave.
You know, Matt, I'm not sure youcan actually Google this and
verify the actual reason forthat anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, what was going on in Germany at this?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
time you look at, if you look on the internet
currently in this country, it'llprobably something say,
something about a bigmisunderstanding.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Um the example america today?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
yeah, correct um, so we were snatching up nazi
scientists because, you know,nazi intelligence is still
intelligence, apparently and sowe were trying to take advantage
of all of the scientificbreakthroughs that they offered
to Hitler and the Nazi armyduring World War II, and so one
(07:54):
of the things they incorporatedwas Albert Einstein's unified
field theory, which is one ofthe things that actually helped
us win World War II I don't wantto say win, because I really
don't think there were anywinners of that war.
It allowed us to drop twofucking nuclear bombs on a
country, the American economy.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We fucking won the.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
American economy did one, Blackstone Industries won
is what happened.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Back to back World War champs.
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Jesus Christ.
So Albert Einstein's unifiedfield theory, why?
Why are we even talking aboutthis?
This was a theory, that was.
It helped shape a lot of techthat we have now and you're
going to see some.
So you know, as I said,operation Rainbow.
It's going to cross withsomething called Project Rainbow
(08:41):
, which is an actual US stealthprogram.
Project Rainbow, operationRainbow.
So youS stealth program,project Rainbow, operation
Rainbow.
So you can kind of see wherethis is heading.
Operation Rainbow was aimed atfiguring out how to basically
bend light around objects,therefore rendering them
invisible.
That was the basis of thistechnology, using Albert
(09:03):
Einstein's unified field theoryas a basis for the science
behind it.
They really were looking for anadvantage to win the Battle of
the Atlantic, and so, apparently, on October 28th 1943, this new
invisibility tech was fittedonto the USS Eldridge, which was
docked at the PhiladelphiaNaval Shipyard.
(09:23):
It said that those on nearbyships witnessed the generators
of the Eldridge, which wasdocked at the Philadelphia Naval
Shipyard.
It said that those on nearbyships witnessed the generators
of the Eldridge begin to hum.
Apparently, there was thisgreen-blue hue that was emanated
from the destroyer's hull andin an instant, the ship simply
vanished, it said.
The ship reappeared again justas suddenly, but only after it
was spotted materializing out ofthin air over 200 miles away at
(09:45):
Norfolk Naval Shipyard inVirginia, before vanished,
before then vanishing a secondtime and apparently reappearing
back at the Philadelphia NavalShipyard.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It also like appeared like 10 minutes before in
Norfolk or something like that.
It was like a weird time travelthing happened as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, there's a lot of different anomalies around
every piece of information aboutthis.
According to some of theaccounts that were actually
taken seriously, some of theunspecified quote-unquote
researchers thought that atheory of this, like the unified
field theory, would allow largeelectrical generators to bend
(10:27):
light around an object viarefraction, so that the object
would be completely invisible,and the Navy obviously regards
this, as you know, something ofmilitary value, and so they
funded it.
Another unattributed version ofthe story proposes that the
researchers were preparingmagnetic and gravitational
measurements of the seafloor todetect anomalies, supposedly
(10:50):
based on Einstein's attempts tounderstand gravity.
Again, einstein is, either way,einstein's a part of this whole
experience.
The only reason we know any ofthis, though, is actually
because of one man who gave aneyewitness account, is actually
because of one man who gave aneyewitness account, and the only
reason he could give that issimply because he was stationed
on the SS Andrew Feruseth, whichwas a ship that was stationed
(11:14):
in Norfolk, the Norfolk shipyardor naval shipyard.
Where do you think?
they come up with the names forboats, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
A lot of times they're like old military dudes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Is it like an honor when it's like you were so good
at military?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
here's a boat and you're a person who died A lot
of times, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I like how this one is specifically Aldrich, though
I know I like that connectiontoo.
I wonder if it was on purposeor not.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Sometimes it's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Lovecraft and Cthulhu .
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What did you say, matt?
Sometimes it's like Old General, sometimes it's names of
battles, so like if there werebattles, oh yeah, and sometimes
it's just like named after townsand shit Usually names of like
significant military leaders.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That one was named after a lieutenant.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Very dad core of you, matt, yeah, I just looked it up
it was named after a lieutenantcommander.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
John.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Eldridge.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
John Eldridge Boy.
Am I the dad here or are you?
I love documentaries on oldboats.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's just my favorite thing.
Yeah, this guy.
He's stationed on this otherboat that apparently saw this
fucking other ship appear anddisappear, and apparently he
also has documented evidencethat the actual media had tried
to report on this incident.
And this man's name is CarlAllen.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I'm just going to toss this over to you, matt, so
in 1955, carl Allen, anex-merchant mariner, sent an
anonymous package marked HappyEaster containing a copy of
Morris Jessup's book the Casefor the UFO Unidentified Flying
Objects to the US Office ofNaval Research.
So this book in particular isincredibly popular among alien
(13:08):
enthusiasts because it's writtenby an actual science guy uh,
morris Jessup, who was a doctorin astrophysics astrophysics and
this was actually one of likethe first times that a real
member of the scientificcommunity seriously considered
or wrote about the possibilityof there being alien life and
(13:29):
transportation that has made itto Earth.
So I guess, even to today thisis a pretty significant book in
the alien weirdos community.
So this copy of the book thatwas shipped to the Office of
Naval Research was filled withhandwritten notes in its margins
.
Naval Research was filled withhandwritten notes in its margins
, and so they were written inblue ink and they appeared to
(13:50):
like detail accounts of severaldifferent people.
But, like Jason said, theybasically cemented Jessup's
ideas about propulsion, flyingsaucers, alien races and stuff
from the perspective of thisCarl Allen, who claims that he
was stationed on this ship andsaw all this shit happen.
(14:11):
So Carl also sent a series ofletters to Jessup himself, the
author of the book, which wereactually signed Carlos Allende,
where he claimed to havewitnessed firsthand these things
that involved the Philadelphiaexperiment.
And Jessup was actually able todetermine that these letters
(14:31):
from this Carlos Allende andCarl Allen were from the same
person, because the Navyactually invited Jessup to come
look at this copy of the bookthat they had been sent and he
was able to compare the notesthat were in the book and the
writings on the letters that hehad been sent and determined
(14:52):
that they were actually sentfrom the same person he also
didn't do the best job ofchanging the name right he was
just like what if I put a littlebit like a hispanic twang?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
yeah yeah, really bad .
Well, he has a bunch of othernames.
He goes by too, that I'll listlater.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But he was just like what if I put a little bit of
Hispanic slang?
Really bad.
Well, he has a bunch of othernames.
He goes by too.
That I'll list later.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like Carly, alendi Carla.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, he's not real.
He had some creative ideasabout things but he definitely
wasn't creative with his namingand, like the other peoples that
he mentions in the books, justhave totally fake sounding names
that I didn't write down butthey were like really stupid
sounding but this is real.
So when Joseph actually wroteback to Carlos Allende
(15:41):
requesting more information tobe recovered and then he
referred him to what appeared tobe a non-existent Philadelphia
newspaper article that Alanclaimed that he that existed,
that covered the incident, so Iguess that was the, the
documentation or the like thewriting that Jason mentioned.
But as far as I have that, ifyou want it, it exists, because
(16:05):
what I from what I could tell,the one that he mentioned in
this response did not actuallyexist or nobody could tell that
it actually existed.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I can give you the thing that he claims existed,
but but, but is it like actuallya copy of the thing?
Copy of the thing.
Uh, no, it is a, it is, I meanit.
It was a scrap of paper thatlooked like it might have been
torn from a place, that may havebeen attached to other paper
that contains articles.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So there's no corroborating evidence that this
actually is that's good enoughfor me?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I know, but he said it was.
He said it was torn out of anewspaper.
How is that not good enough foryou?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, see, the thing about newspapers is usually they
make copies of them, they don'tjust write one.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The other thing, the fucking, the article that he's
even referencing, which, yes,you are correct, there is no
corroborating evidence.
No one else can find thisarticle, quote unquote, but all
it does is it talks about abrawl that happens in a like a
bar near the US Navy docks, andthey got a surprise to find the
place was completely empty andtwo people had disappeared.
(17:13):
And then there was a weird.
It was a huge boom they heard,and that was about it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's the whole article.
Oh, OK.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
That's the, that's the corroborating media that
corroborates the whole thingthat the ship teleported and
came back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, I guess, obviously.
Anyway.
So in these notes to Jessup,alan details that or explains to
Jessup that he thinks he's indanger because he has gotten too
close to figuring out thesecrets of alien travel and that
he knows too much.
And not to ruin Mike's partlater, but this is maybe
(17:56):
corroborated- later on, whenJessup gets found dead by
asphyxiation in his car later,like a year later.
And did he do it?
Did somebody?
else undid it.
Anyway, who's to say yeah?
Who's to say so?
(18:16):
Carl goes by several othernames and, like a bunch of other
writings and notes that hesends out over the years, he
goes by Senor, Professor andColonel Carlos Miguel Cristofero
Allende.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Jesus Christ.
This guy was just like Yo soyel professor.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
One time he claimed to be.
This is the only one that's noteven close to his name Vernier
Von Braun and Dr Carl.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Areier.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Von Braun and Dr Carl .
Are you kidding me, dr Carl?
Meredith Allenstein, yeah, DrCarl Meredith.
Allenstein.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're putting your real name in your fake names?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Isn't Vernier Von Braun a Nazi?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
guy, yeah, a British rocket engineer.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, he also, I think, worked with Disney.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh no, I'm sorry, I misread this.
He wrote to Werner Von Braun.
Oh, okay.
Under the name Dr Carl MurditAllenstein there it is again.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Karl Allenstein.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So he has to fucking just leave his name in there so
he decided he decided to make upa fake German sounding name
that was basically his name towrite to the German guy.
I think it's an ego thing, yeah.
Karl died in 1994, and he wasnot a doctor either, so we have
(19:47):
no way of actually verifyinganything now.
We are left with what he wroteand claimed over the years.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do I want to spoil what he has said about his own
claims over the years, or issomebody going to get into that
later?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, I don't get into it if you want to.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
He has repeatedly- claimed a few things he.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He says he made it up , and then when he's asked about
it later, he's like, no, Ididn't make it up.
And then somebody else askedand he's like, oh yeah, I made
that up.
And then later he's like, no, Idefinitely didn't make it up,
so who's?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
to say it's just a professional gaslighter I mean,
isn't that like the best way oflike building credibility,
though?
Because you can't prove ordisprove it, so you have to go
find the evidence who the fuck?
Knows nothing, saying there isa potato.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh my god, carl allen , you fucking figure it out
anyway, and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So let's try to fucking figure it out, you
fucking figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So let's try to fucking figure it out.
Does anybody have any moreinformation about what exactly
happened during this allegedmaybe thing that happened, that
somebody didn't or did make up?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, so I'm going to reiterate some things that
Jason already kind of said.
But basically a TLDR of that isthat obviously we were testing
unified field theory.
We wanted to bend someelectromagnet fields around the
ship, making it visible when weflipped the switch.
(21:17):
Witnesses claimed that therewas this big glowing green-blue
haze around the ship.
And then accounts say that theship went from Philadelphia to
Norfolk, virginia Goddamn saythat.
The ship went from Philadelphiato Norfolk, virginia Goddamn
say that 20 times fast.
After a few minutes itreappeared back in Philadelphia.
However, according to the story,the Navy covered up a lot of
(21:39):
the incident and quietlytransferred surviving crews to
other assignments and erasedrecords of the experiment
altogether.
So essentially that's whathappened to the ship, or so we
were told.
Um, but we do have someaccounts of like what scientists
saw when they actually got onto the ship after the experiment
(22:00):
.
So when they came aboard theyfound several sailors were
partially embedded into theship's metal Arms, legs, torsos,
all fused into bulkheads andthe decks, as if the ship had
kind of swallowed them almost.
So just kind of half in and out.
(22:21):
Some men were stuck inside ofwalls.
They said there was a lot ofpeople just screaming in agony.
Others were just simply missing.
Crew members were just neverfound.
They were just unaccounted for.
Some were just like babblingincoherently and catatonic, like
their brains had been liketotally scrambled.
Some went insane on the spot,unable to process all the events
(22:45):
of like what transpired beforethem.
Some survivors laterexperienced freezing moments
where they would vanish in thethin air and then reappear not
knowing what had just happened.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
that You're just shopping at Kohl's and then
you're like, oh, this looks niceand then it's gone and they
just reappear and it's likeclosed, what happened, what
happened?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
gone, and he doesn't reappear and it's like closed.
What happened?
Fucking wacky.
Let me tell you um where do you?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
think it never says where do you think they go?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
whatever is between here and norfolk, virginia.
Uh, the veil.
The veil, yeah, I don't know,man, it's really weird, like I
can't even imagine that, to behonest with you, like it seems.
I mean, it's very what's theword I'm looking for?
It's very sci-fi in nature, youknow.
(23:42):
So we see a lot ofteleportation going correctly in
most movies and like stuff.
We never see it going wrong,except if you watch the fly.
So I don't know.
But some witnesses also saidthat they had injuries and like
burns, like radiation burns,apparently.
(24:03):
A few burst into flames withoutany reasoning and then one of
the famous stories say that agroup of sailors in a bar weeks
later got into a fight and then,like during the chaos, to just
like blinked out of existence infront of everyone.
But just little stories as faras I know.
But yeah, I guess thescientists were basically saying
(24:26):
that they were really not surehow any of this worked.
They essentially know that theythrew the switch, they made the
ship invisible and in theprocess they had tampered with
space and time and matter itselfand then, basically, fearing
any more disasters like this,they just shut the project down
immediately, classified all therecords records and told
(24:47):
everyone to quiet up and go dosomething else.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So there was uh, there is another story of I
forgot what it was calledspecifically.
It's like anchoring orsomething where, um, some of the
the sailors afterwards wouldneed to like almost constantly
have someone they like love orlike care for, like touch them
or like hold on to them, andthat was like keeping them from
(25:14):
phasing out, somehow like that,like they're their anchor onto
this world and if they let gothen they would like just phase
out or back in.
Very weird stuff, weird stuff.
I also think the guys in thebar got very lucky, because I'm
trying to imagine like they'regetting in a bar fight, someone
throws a stool at them and theyjust blink out right before the
(25:34):
stool hits them.
Yeah, probably a lot betterthat that happened to you.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I can clarify a little more about the people
that disappeared from the bar,but I figured I'd let you guys
talk more about it.
Does anyone else have anythingto say about those two before I
give it away?
I?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
don't have anything to say about those.
I have one little blurb ofstuff left, but I can wait until
after discussion.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
No, no, no, you go ahead.
The only thing I would shareabout the guys from the bar is
that later they both were talkedto and found and contacted and
apparently they were underageand not supposed to be there and
if they found out they wouldget dismissed from service.
So a waitress snuck them outthe back.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
They're like we see the fight cloud happening, with
all the fists and the hands andthe shoes coming out of it.
She's just like what are youchildren doing here?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But yeah, with all the fists and the hands and the
shoes coming out of it she'sjust like yoink.
What are you children?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
doing here?
Yeah, we're just roughhousing.
That's what I imagine theysound like.
I'm 14.
I'm a man, I can fight forAmerica, but I can't drink about
it Nope.
So officially the record forthe ship.
But I can't drink about it Nope.
So officially the record forthe ship is this though so it
(26:55):
was a real US Navy destroyer.
It launched in 1943.
Spanned World War II escortingconvoys across the Atlantic.
After the war, she wastransferred to the Greek Navy in
1951 and renamed HS Leon, andthen it served until 1999, and
then it got scrapped.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Can you just do that you want this boat.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The USS Eldridge was given to Greece as part of the
Mutual Defense Assistance Act,which was a plan that President
Truman put in place To helprebuild European countries
Military stocks After World WarII, because America felt that
Having their European allies InEurope well stocked From a
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military perspective Was a goodidea, considering Russia was
also quickly building theirmilitary Dude.
That's so wild.
We're doing the same thing now.
Right, military perspective wasa good idea, considering Russia
was also quickly building theirmilitary Dude.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's so wild.
We're doing the same thing now,right?
Yeah, of course, why wouldn'tyou?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Providing aid to our European allies so that they can
fight off.
Yeah, we're doing that exactsame thing.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The UN.
We're helpful in there and wealways want to be yeah Anyway so
Conformation.
There's a couple otherexperiments that are taking
place around.
This time of the Philadelphiaexperiment Turns out we're very
efficient at just fucking aroundand finding out.
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Not all of them took place inPhiladelphia, but some did.
Um, first and foremost, I'mgoing to be talking about a
couple of things.
One of these things we may haveto talk about a little bit more
in depth because it sounds sofucking weird, Um, but I want to
talk a little bit about gauzing.
Um, basically, gauzing is aunit of strength of a magnetic
field in a, like deep sea minestrigger.
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Um.
These mines would be able toread the um magnetic field of um
, like boats or ships oranything that's coming by, and
it would basically be able tofeel that like disruption in the
magnetic field and that willtrigger the mind to uh float up
and detonate.
Um.
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Degaussing was an experimentthat the us was doing on some of
the boats in philadelphia which, uh, basically the first round
of degaussing experiments wastaking electromagnetic copper
coils and just wrapping the shipin it and then that doing so
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would fuck with theelectromagnetic field around the
ship, thus affecting how themines track them, basically
making it so the mines wouldn'tbe released and explode the
ships because it wouldn't trackor notice these differences in
the electromagnetic field.
We soon discovered that justwrapping a giant fucking
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battleship in copper coil.
A.
Super time-consuming, B superexpensive.
Not all that worth it to do onyour hundreds of.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
What a good way to spend your time.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, especially because degaussing only worked
for so long.
After a while the potencybasically of the effect of the
electromagnetic field from thecopper would disintegrate and
you have to basically rechargeit after a while.
So it would basically be themhaving to go out there, wait for
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this thing to fail, these coilsto fail, bring it back to
fucking port, charge it up whichtakes forever send it back on
its way.
It had a limited range,essentially, before it had to be
charged back up.
It just wasn't that effective.
So they discovered somethingelse they they called whipping.
Same concept, but it was justcheaper to do, because now,
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instead of wrapping these coppercoils around the ships and
bolting them on and making surethey stay, they just decided to
just hook them off the side ofthe fucking boats and just let
them drag along the ship.
They just have these tentacledspools of copper wiring, just
giving off an electromagneticfield.
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That is just throwing off thesemines.
And that was way lesstime-consuming, way less costly,
because again, now you're notwrapping an entire ship in
copper, you're just letting ittrail behind it in the ocean.
Same effect, basically.
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Um, another big experiment thatwas going on in this time frame
which kind of has to do withthis was from the germans
surprise, surprise, it's called.
It's called die glocky, dieglocky um, something like that,
or, as translated in german, thenazi bell.
So we may have to talk aboutthis more in depth at some point
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, but essentially the nazi bellis this giant bell-shaped device
that the nazis discovered andstarted experimenting with, that
emitted this super lethalradiation to anybody that came
in contact with it.
They had multiple scientiststhat were working.
Is this going to the whole Naziwarlock stuff Kind?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
of A little bit.
God, I hope so.
That's something we for sureneed to talk about.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, just the Nazis and the occult man.
If they weren't Nazis, it'd becooler If it was the whole Nazi
thing.
If it was just like, yeah, wejust.
If it was just like a bunch ofdudes in the early 1900s that
were like, yeah, we love fuckingexperimenting with artifacts
and the occult, I'd be like,fuck, yeah, but no, they had to
be Nazis and ruin it all.
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So way to go, Hitler.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, you just hadn't .
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm going to clip that out of context.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
If the.
Nazis had the Nazis, they'd becool.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
So does this end up connecting to the Nazi UFOs in
Antarctica again?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
A little.
Why is everything?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
connected Everything.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's not that it connects to it directly, but
it's the same type of weird shit.
So, essentially, this giantthing is a bell-shaped device
that, again, every scientistthat worked on it had lethal
radiation exposure.
Every test subject that theyhad come on it had lethal
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radiation exposure.
Every test subject that theyhad come near it, lethal
radiation exposure.
It contained inside of it thisthing they called serum 525,
which is this purple, like wegooey, like liquidy substance
that they had to keep inside ofa lead container because it
itself was radioactive as well.
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The Nazis discovered that if youspin this thing around and
around and around and around andaround, it could manipulate
space and time, and they weresomewhat successful with this.
They were able to have certainthings blink in and out of
existence.
We did have similar issues.
Uh, happen to what happenedwith the philadelphia experiment
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, where you know things thatblipped out would come back
fucked up.
Uh think event horizon, youknow when the ship goes to.
You know the hell place,everything, nothing is the same.
They're all fucked up.
It's basically that, it's.
It's that exact same type ofpremise.
The people that that worked onit there there's you know
quote-unquote interviews of thembeing like yeah, we went to a
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place, kind of fucked up dude,um, a lot of people lost their
minds.
They said it was a land oftorture, essentially.
So it's basically event horizon, but not space.
Nazi germany, um, silent hillguy, yeah, yeah, um, so they,
they definitely did want to.
The end game for this was forthis to be used to travel
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dimensions.
Um, that was a big thing.
You know, allegedly, orwhatever, with like um, nazi
germany back in the day was, um,towards the end of the war,
they knew they were losing, sothey had the uh, the mindset.
You know, it's the same reasonthey went to hide in Antarctica,
or on the moon, if you believein that ship.
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It's basically saying, yeah, wemay not win this world, but
we're going to retreat, we'llwin another world.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Or we'll come back later where you can't touch us.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, but their whole thing was okay.
Maybe we lost this one.
Let's travel to a differentdimension where we can take over
that one.
Yeah, so I find that very Again, sans Nazi stuff Kind of a cool
concept.
A giant bell thing that tearsthrough dimensions, that is
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theorized and this is how itties to the UFO thing that Sorry
, I had to pause and take adrink of water for a dramatic
effect.
So it is theorized that thisbell was actually a piece of
alien technology that was foundfrom a crashed UFO site and when
we found it, that's when westarted doing our experiments on
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it, and that serum 525 may havebeen some sort of fuel or
energy supply for this UFO.
And this is how we also theykind of theorized how UFOs
travel through or travel around.
It's not necessarily that a UFOcame from a far distant planet.
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This made them theorize thatUFOs came from far distant
dimensions and this is how theygot here is with this bell.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
With a bell, a Nazi bell a.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Nazi bell, the fucking greys you know, in
dimension.
Dimension five, eight to ninewas like.
Well, if we had a Nazi weaponand we traveled to Earth in 1942
or whatever.
Like what Great idea.
Great idea, what's a Nazi?
I don't know.
We'll figure out when we getthere.
Klee whore, so that's kind ofthat I couldn't think of an
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alien name.
So Klee whore is the name.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
That's a great one.
I think you should keep it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's from Smegmar 9 , episode 3.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Klee, whore's bell's Bell, very soon, I think,
kleehor's Bell.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh my god let's see what Art Bell has to say about
this.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'll get Delutybot to start working on that there we
go.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I tap Kleehor's Bell and I scry.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
So that's really about it when it comes to, like,
other big experiments that arehappening at that time.
Uh, now I know what you'reprobably wondering, though, like
why is it that we can't findany records on this thing and I
think you guys said it bestyourselves earlier it's that
government that g danggovernment cover-up dude.
Well, that.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
G-Dang government cover-up.
They had that totally real newscoverage from that totally real
newspaper article that was in atotally real newspaper.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You're right, the government doesn't.
They were too late, theycouldn't cover it up.
The cat was out there, it wasalready out.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You can't put the cat back in the bag unless you have
food.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Government's covering everything up by a couple of
different means.
I'm glad you brought it up firstand foremost, like you brought
up before, jessup deadasphyxiated in his car a year
after everything coincidence?
I fucking think not, dude.
Was he having financial hardtimes?
Probably, I don't know.
Is that a big, big factor inpeople dying?
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Yeah, but did he do it?
Nah, government cover-up.
They killed him for publishingall this stuff even though it
already came out.
So like, why would they have tokill him?
Also, many believe that thegovernment altered the ship's
logs and crew to show thatnothing suspicious occurred.
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Like Doug said before, theywould take some crew off of the
ships and they would put themonto other jobs or other boats,
other ships, so it would be likeno one was ever there on the
Eldridge to begin with.
Many of the crew also, or manybelieve that the crew who died
afterwards with the you knowwhere they were, like blooping
in and out of existence or theone that just spontaneously set
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on fire.
People believe that theyactually did not die but in fact
were kidnapped by thegovernment for testing purposes
so they could be experimented onto see if they could give any
more information or insight intohow to harness this
Philadelphia experimenttechnology.
Also, in 1984, there is a moviethat came out about the
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Philadelphia experimenttechnology, also in 1984, there
is a movie that came out aboutthe Philadelphia experiment.
This movie is rumored to befunded by the government to make
the experiment seem more like asci-fi, a sci-fi story, rather
than something that's real.
This obviously would help keeppeople off the trail.
Oh, it's just a dumb movie.
The the movie itself apparentlyis not that good and allegedly
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the government did that onpurpose to further discredit the
experiment, make a bad movie,make people talk about how
shitty the movie is.
All of a sudden, thePhiladelphia experience is more
of a joke than anything.
They even changed sole eventsof the experiment in the movie
just to further cause chaos andconfusion with what actually
happened in.
The movie talks about two guyswho during the uh, when the uh
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eldridge was going green andblue and all that haze was going
on, they fell overboard andthey were time traveled into the
year 1984 where they had tofigure out what the hell was
going on in the future andfigure out how to get back to
the past.
Samurai Jack and they yeah,that never happened In the
Philadelphia experience.
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That's just part of the movie.
I'm pretty sure the names of thepeople that fell off the ship
are supposed to be names ofpeople that were on the crew of
the Eldritch, but I don't fullyremember.
But yeah, that seems to be manyof the takes, another being
this one I only saw like one ortwo people talking about.
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But another one is that theygot to Carl Allen and that's one
of the reasons why Carl Allenwas, throughout the later years
of his life, like, yeah, I madethat shit up.
No, I didn't.
Yeah, did no, I didn't.
Because the governmentbasically kept coming to him
like hey, shut the fuck up.
And he's like, okay, yep, Imade it all up, it's not real.
And then after a while hethought he was safe and he was
like, totally, saw that shit.
And the government comeknocking on his door again.
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He's like, uh, sorry guys,totally made it up, not real.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
No, it definitely would give him multiple chances,
definitely would absolutely belike all right, I'm gonna take
your word for it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
This, yeah, they wouldn't just they wouldn't just
have him shoot himself oranything hamburger time him
hamburger time him.
Um, but that, that's this.
That's the philadelphiaexperiment, like the all in all
pretty fun concept of uh I I dohope, and I do feel like it was
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on purpose, that they called itthe Eldritch and just kind of
changed the spelling of it so itdid have that Julian
Lovecraftian feel to it.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I really hope that was on purpose if I ever see
anything that is like a littlelike tip of the hat to like a
fucking pop culture icon orsomething like that, that's my
first key clue that this eitherprobably isn't real or like it's
like.
Uh, like, if there was avampire and I, what was that
rick and morty thing?
(42:32):
The coach ferratu like yeah,you, if you were trying to hide
this shit, you wouldn't tip yourhat to.
Like cthulhu and the eldritch.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I'm doctor, my name is dr acula.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's the thing that always gets me yeah, with these
sort of conspiracy theories,things is they're always like oh
, they left clues hidden inplain sight.
Really, this and this and thisand this, it all adds up.
It's like why would they dothat?
Why?
Why would they do?
That If you're so convincedthat the military has somehow
been able to keep so many peoplesilent on this for so long, for
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decades and they would puthidden references in the names
of things.
What is this?
This National Treasure?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
The Da Vinci Code.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
You don't leave a trail.
That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
What do we think, boys?
Real or fake?
Absolutely real, alright, we'lljust say it now that works.
Huh, yeah, I.
Absolutely real.
Oh, alright, we'll just say itnow that works.
Huh, I'm going fake.
You had to.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I'm going fake.
Yeah, I'm going fake too.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I'll say fake.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
My biggest argument for why I think it's fake is not
all that I can let all thatdumb shit slide and still think
it might be half true.
The biggest thing that makes methink it's fake is the fact
that if you look at it from apurely military, experimental
mindset, this was a success.
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If the whole point was to haveyour, your, your ship go
invisible and instead you justinvented teleportation, they
wouldn't just scrap this idea.
oh yeah, this would be somethingyeah, they don't care how bad
it it was on a person.
I mean, if people, thegovernment runs mk, ultra, you
(44:37):
know Orange, all that shit theydon't care if it fucks up and
kills people.
They're going to run tests onit and see what was successful
and what's not and try it againand again and again.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The fact that this is the only yeah, they're going to
do it again, but like, putmonkeys on the ship instead.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, the fact that this is the only example of this
type of like teleportationthing happening that kind of
tells me it's not real.
If there's multiple examples ofit, I might be like, okay, sure
, you might have a littlesomething here.
But yeah, the government wouldsee this teleportation thing and
be like bet, we're gonna usethis and look more into it.
I will kill a thousand men amillion men for this.
We don't care it's fuckingwater noose from Monsters Inc.
I'll kill a thousand children ifit care.
It's fucking water noose fromMonsters Inc.
I'll kill a thousand childrenif I be it's that.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I guess the minor concern that you do have with
this is that if the ship is justrandomly teleporting, when you
do this, how are you going to be100% sure that you're not just
going to teleport it into themiddle of the, like Empire State
Building or something?
Speaker 5 (45:35):
that's true, but that's too spot on for it to be
like, because if they're justtesting something out, there's
no like little panel box like infucking Doc Brown's car.
Like here's the coordinates.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's why they would keep experimenting, in my
opinion, yeah but that's thereason why they shouldn't,
because they don't know whereit's going to go.
You're not going to take anaircraft carrier and
accidentally 9-11 yourself.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I mean, we created the nuke with the small chance
that it would literally explodethe atmosphere and kill
everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, but nobody's going to get upset about that.
Because there's going to getupset about that, because
everybody's going to be, there'sgoing to be nobody to complain
also.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
I feel like if they were testing a giant ship
teleporting, there would be somuch news coverage on this,
because it's not just like,they're not just hiding it like
you know what I'm saying, likewell, think about the.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
My biggest question is everybody likes to think that
every reference point you knowwhat I'm saying.
Well, think about the.
My biggest question iseverybody likes to think that
every reference point thatexists exists on Earth.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
If you're looking at, teleporting something that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Make sure you're not going to just slam it into the
moon.
We're moving at like 22,000miles an hour on average in a
direction somewhere.
How are you accounting for thatz value of like where you are
statically in space?
That's fair, yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're making two assumptions you're making.
The first assumption is thatyou're assuming that it's going
to maintain its momentum as it'steleporting, and two, the other
assumption that you're makingis that there's no friction or
anything that's going to slow itdown where it's not going to
end up, at like, in the centerof the planet Right.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I feel like the like, the gate idea of like a portal
or something where there's anentrance and an exit makes more
sense than just like blasting abeam at a ship and being like oh
there go, there is Stargatetechnology.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
We talked about it with that one wacky guy I forgot
his name when they were like oh, they teleported us as kids and
I was Obama or whatever.
I forgot that guy.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I guess maybe they were some shit.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Maybe this was the.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
That was the fucking, that website.
Goddamn, what was that called?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
yeah, that thing we did like four parts of yeah,
maybe the ascension glossary orwhatever.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
No, no no, no, no, no , no.
No different thing.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
There's always the bad shit the same conspiracy
theory?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
no no, this is like the field studies institute.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
No, that wasn't about the field studies.
No, no, this is like an ARG.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
The Field Studies Institute.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh yeah, that's right no that wasn't about the Field
Studies.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Field Studies Institute was where the guy
claims to go back in time, right?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
No Field.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Studies Institute was just it's just an ARG.
I thought that was involved inthat, though.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, no, no, no, field Studies is just a fun little
ARG thing about it.
All this dumb shit is like it'sstacking up yeah, this is gonna
bother me, doug, look it up, I'mdoing it, I'm doing it already
no, but I guess, maybe, maybethe Philadelphia experiment it
was like the rough draft of whatbecame like that thing, like
the Stargate experiments andshit like that.
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That's entirely possible aswell.
I guess could be.
Yeah, I don't Doug, are youlooking up like past episodes?
Or that's entirely possible aswell?
I guess Could be, doug, are youlooking up past episodes?
Yeah, I'll know when I see it.
I know that much.
I just have to see it ProjectPegasus.
No, yeah, it was ProjectPegasus, that was the one.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
I knew it was something.
I said paperclip, but whatever.
Something with a P that's all Igot.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
I enjoyed it, though.
Fun story.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I will say fun story it was the fucking, the melding
with the ship parts, like thecrew, like that great writing
great writing.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
you know what else has fantastic writing is?
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Give us a scary thing thathappened to you and then sign
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Who knows?
But yeah, send those over,because we're getting a spooky
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I don't know why you'd be there, but we're there.
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And then go ahead.
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And you know, if you, if youwere ever on a boat with your
father.
Go ahead and wrap some coppercoils around him, give him a
kiss and he'll probably vanish.
And wind up.
Yeah, for a little bit, andwind up in Norfolk, kentucky or
wherever the fuck.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
And then you get your government issued black den.
Yeah, I saw that YouTube havebeen Norfolk and then you gave
your government a shoot blackedin.
Yeah, I saw that.
Youtube story again the otherday and.
I forgot about that, jesus.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Holy Lord.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Well, matt what do you have to say to the people?
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I already said what I got to say what do you have to
say for yourself?
Perfect.
What do you have to say toyourself people?
I already said what.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
I got to say what do?
You have to say for yourselfDoug, what do you got?
I don't know.
I guess slappier peen againstthe USS Eldridge and I guess now
named the HR Leon in Greece.
Go to Greece everyone.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Jason, what do you got?
As always, stay paranoid, butI'm going to bandwagon on Doug.
Yeah, go have sex with an oldUS boat that lives in Greece now
Broad daylight, just no shame.
Just fuck it Just as much asyou want.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Here's my strange addiction I fuck old boats.
I fuck old boats.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's the pica of sexual problems.
Oh, one more thing If you everwant to hear like more like deep
dives into topics and hear likethe really cool and like
in-depth side of things, don'tlisten to us, I guess, because
that will just edit me goinghard on a topic right out of
there.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Salty.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You're going to be disappointed if you go to Greece
, because the D-54 Leon was soldfor scrap on 11th of November
1999.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Boo, Actually, I think I said that during my part
, so I respect you on that partapparently.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Leon, no, no, that think I said that during my part
, so I respect you, we all know.
No, that edit was funny, though.
Thank you, matt.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Well, now you just have a sexy mystery on your
hands.
You'll find out where the partswent.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
And then fuck them in the junkyard with no shame.
Everybody, have a blessed daydon't look under the internet.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Outro Music.
don't look under the internet oh shit, that's what
I'm talking about.
Keep all that in hello.
Everyone welcome to.
Don't look under the internet.
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She said it herself.
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She talked to GQ magazine aboutit.
That's Doug right up there orsomewhere.
That's Jason somewhere as well.
Yeah, I'm up here.
I'm above you, doug.
You have to say something.
Hey, all right, I'll do it.
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Speaker 2 (01:32):
Barbara Streisand is 83, so we're really running A
risk of running into another.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh no, barbara, do me a favor.
I need you to die like rightnow.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We already killed Betty White.
You can't break the street.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Otherwise you'll make it somebody else's fault.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We've done a couple of these where it's just like,
yep, they're dead.
Now it's the Deluty curse.
Anyway, I'm going to starttoday off with a little bit of
Deluty.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Housekeeping Housekeeping's fun House above
my head, head Above Mike's head,our house.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I'm gonna give a big old shout out let's play the
game.
Is your name good?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Is your name good?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't know.
Let's find out.
This is the segment of the showwhere we list off the name Of
people who give money and we'regonna judge the name, because
that's what you do to peoplethat give you money you beat
them down.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, you punch them squarely in the throat.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're going to judge how creative these names are
Ready.
First one, Isabella Perez.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's just your name .
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That's just your name .
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Cancel and re-sign up .
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But give more money this time around.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, more money.
You gotta pay a fee for signingup with your real name, fix
this.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We should make this like an exclusive thing where,
like, if you sign up for Patreonone time and you leave, you can
never come back, and then maybepeople will be like I need to
change my name, or we would justbe a lot less money yeah, the
bad business model part of thatone is coming out no repeat
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customers.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm gonna give, I mean, isabella Perez yeah, it's
not the most creative name, butyou're giving us money.
I'm gonna give you two out offive it is your name, it's not
like an ugly name.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So like you got a good name I'm going to give you
two out of five.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It is your name, it is your name?
It's not like an ugly name.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So like you got a good name.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's not like Gertrude Rubio, it's not Lilith
Shugunan Shunt Like Gort Frumpusor some shit like that we also
have.
I don't remember if I shoutedthis one out before or not, so
I'm going to do it now.
Gizimo, gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Gizimo.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Mike can't pronounce it, so I'm giving it like a 6
just on that alone.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's how you know it's good you start the scale at
5 once you know, but you can'tpronounce it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, boys, that's going to conclude housekeeping,
housekeeping over Boys Woo.
Last time we got together wetalked about underwater
mysteries and I thought that wasvery fun.
But I figured what if we talkedabout a mystery that floats on
water?
You know what they say Floatlike a boat, sting like the
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state of Philadelphia, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The state.
Keep going, Mike.
There's too much there toaddress right now.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You mean you could fly like an eagle, like the
Philadelphia Eagles yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
There you go, or or like seal, which is a water
piece.
There's so many connectionshere.
We're talking about not thefucking cheesesteak.
No, they're talking about thephiladelphia experiment, which
could be how the cheesesteak wascreated.
I guess we'll find out if youlisten.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
We'll give you all the sources.
We'll show you the way.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
I've been wanting to talk aboutthis for a while.
I like the concept of thePhiladelphia experiment.
I find it very enjoyable.
I like these stupid little Imean it's not stupid, what?
Uh, I like these totallytotally real, totally real
things absolutely legitimateyeah, um.
(05:35):
So I guess where do we start ifnot the beginning?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
absolutely.
Um, I'm guessing you guys mightwant to know what the fuck the
Philadelphia experiment is.
It's not like the thing thatled to the cream cheese.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think they just like force fed somebody a bunch
of Cream cheese just to see whathappens.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, it's like that one test from the movie Seven,
where you just force feed themspaghetti, but Sponsored by
Philadelphia cream cheese.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or they force you to fuck a prostitute, but the
prostitute is cream cheese justa giant, human sized glob of
cream cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I want to know what the control group looks like in
that experiment.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Anyway, philadelphia experiment is none of those
things.
Um, allegedly, allegedly, uh,was a top secret government
project and it was alsocodenamed operation rainbow, and
it was carried out under theauspices of who albert einstein
in accordance with his unifiedfield theory.
(06:44):
Um, one thing that we kind ofknow about the us right around
the mid 40s to late 40s is thatthey were definitely bidding on,
uh, german scientists becausethey were going nuts, dude, dude
.
A lot of them wanted to get outof Nazi Germany, and so the US
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kind of took that as hey, we cansteal their brains.
I wonder why they wanted toleave.
You know, Matt, I'm not sure youcan actually Google this and
verify the actual reason forthat anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, what was going on in Germany at this?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
time you look at, if you look on the internet
currently in this country, it'llprobably something say,
something about a bigmisunderstanding.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Um the example america today?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
yeah, correct um, so we were snatching up nazi
scientists because, you know,nazi intelligence is still
intelligence, apparently and sowe were trying to take advantage
of all of the scientificbreakthroughs that they offered
to Hitler and the Nazi armyduring World War II, and so one
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of the things they incorporatedwas Albert Einstein's unified
field theory, which is one ofthe things that actually helped
us win World War II I don't wantto say win, because I really
don't think there were anywinners of that war.
It allowed us to drop twofucking nuclear bombs on a
country, the American economy.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We fucking won the.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
American economy did one, Blackstone Industries won
is what happened.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Back to back World War champs.
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Jesus Christ.
So Albert Einstein's unifiedfield theory, why?
Why are we even talking aboutthis?
This was a theory, that was.
It helped shape a lot of techthat we have now and you're
going to see some.
So you know, as I said,operation Rainbow.
It's going to cross withsomething called Project Rainbow
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, which is an actual US stealthprogram.
Project Rainbow, operationRainbow.
So youS stealth program,project Rainbow, operation
Rainbow.
So you can kind of see wherethis is heading.
Operation Rainbow was aimed atfiguring out how to basically
bend light around objects,therefore rendering them
invisible.
That was the basis of thistechnology, using Albert
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Einstein's unified field theoryas a basis for the science
behind it.
They really were looking for anadvantage to win the Battle of
the Atlantic, and so, apparently, on October 28th 1943, this new
invisibility tech was fittedonto the USS Eldridge, which was
docked at the PhiladelphiaNaval Shipyard.
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It said that those on nearbyships witnessed the generators
of the Eldridge, which wasdocked at the Philadelphia Naval
Shipyard.
It said that those on nearbyships witnessed the generators
of the Eldridge begin to hum.
Apparently, there was thisgreen-blue hue that was emanated
from the destroyer's hull andin an instant, the ship simply
vanished, it said.
The ship reappeared again justas suddenly, but only after it
was spotted materializing out ofthin air over 200 miles away at
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Norfolk Naval Shipyard inVirginia, before vanished,
before then vanishing a secondtime and apparently reappearing
back at the Philadelphia NavalShipyard.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It also like appeared like 10 minutes before in
Norfolk or something like that.
It was like a weird time travelthing happened as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, there's a lot of different anomalies around
every piece of information aboutthis.
According to some of theaccounts that were actually
taken seriously, some of theunspecified quote-unquote
researchers thought that atheory of this, like the unified
field theory, would allow largeelectrical generators to bend
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light around an object viarefraction, so that the object
would be completely invisible,and the Navy obviously regards
this, as you know, something ofmilitary value, and so they
funded it.
Another unattributed version ofthe story proposes that the
researchers were preparingmagnetic and gravitational
measurements of the seafloor todetect anomalies, supposedly
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based on Einstein's attempts tounderstand gravity.
Again, einstein is, either way,einstein's a part of this whole
experience.
The only reason we know any ofthis, though, is actually
because of one man who gave aneyewitness account, is actually
because of one man who gave aneyewitness account, and the only
reason he could give that issimply because he was stationed
on the SS Andrew Feruseth, whichwas a ship that was stationed
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in Norfolk, the Norfolk shipyardor naval shipyard.
Where do you think?
they come up with the names forboats, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
A lot of times they're like old military dudes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Is it like an honor when it's like you were so good
at military?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
here's a boat and you're a person who died A lot
of times, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I like how this one is specifically Aldrich, though
I know I like that connectiontoo.
I wonder if it was on purposeor not.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Sometimes it's.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Lovecraft and Cthulhu .
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What did you say, matt?
Sometimes it's like Old General, sometimes it's names of
battles, so like if there werebattles, oh yeah, and sometimes
it's just like named after townsand shit Usually names of like
significant military leaders.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That one was named after a lieutenant.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Very dad core of you, matt, yeah, I just looked it up
it was named after a lieutenantcommander.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
John.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Eldridge.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
John Eldridge Boy.
Am I the dad here or are you?
I love documentaries on oldboats.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's just my favorite thing.
Yeah, this guy.
He's stationed on this otherboat that apparently saw this
fucking other ship appear anddisappear, and apparently he
also has documented evidencethat the actual media had tried
to report on this incident.
And this man's name is CarlAllen.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I'm just going to toss this over to you, matt, so
in 1955, carl Allen, anex-merchant mariner, sent an
anonymous package marked HappyEaster containing a copy of
Morris Jessup's book the Casefor the UFO Unidentified Flying
Objects to the US Office ofNaval Research.
So this book in particular isincredibly popular among alien
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enthusiasts because it's writtenby an actual science guy uh,
morris Jessup, who was a doctorin astrophysics astrophysics and
this was actually one of likethe first times that a real
member of the scientificcommunity seriously considered
or wrote about the possibilityof there being alien life and
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transportation that has made itto Earth.
So I guess, even to today thisis a pretty significant book in
the alien weirdos community.
So this copy of the book thatwas shipped to the Office of
Naval Research was filled withhandwritten notes in its margins
.
Naval Research was filled withhandwritten notes in its margins
, and so they were written inblue ink and they appeared to
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like detail accounts of severaldifferent people.
But, like Jason said, theybasically cemented Jessup's
ideas about propulsion, flyingsaucers, alien races and stuff
from the perspective of thisCarl Allen, who claims that he
was stationed on this ship andsaw all this shit happen.
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So Carl also sent a series ofletters to Jessup himself, the
author of the book, which wereactually signed Carlos Allende,
where he claimed to havewitnessed firsthand these things
that involved the Philadelphiaexperiment.
And Jessup was actually able todetermine that these letters
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from this Carlos Allende andCarl Allen were from the same
person, because the Navyactually invited Jessup to come
look at this copy of the bookthat they had been sent and he
was able to compare the notesthat were in the book and the
writings on the letters that hehad been sent and determined
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that they were actually sentfrom the same person he also
didn't do the best job ofchanging the name right he was
just like what if I put a littlebit like a hispanic twang?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
yeah yeah, really bad .
Well, he has a bunch of othernames.
He goes by too, that I'll listlater.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But he was just like what if I put a little bit of
Hispanic slang?
Really bad.
Well, he has a bunch of othernames.
He goes by too.
That I'll list later.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like Carly, alendi Carla.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, he's not real.
He had some creative ideasabout things but he definitely
wasn't creative with his namingand, like the other peoples that
he mentions in the books, justhave totally fake sounding names
that I didn't write down butthey were like really stupid
sounding but this is real.
So when Joseph actually wroteback to Carlos Allende
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requesting more information tobe recovered and then he
referred him to what appeared tobe a non-existent Philadelphia
newspaper article that Alanclaimed that he that existed,
that covered the incident, so Iguess that was the, the
documentation or the like thewriting that Jason mentioned.
But as far as I have that, ifyou want it, it exists, because
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what I from what I could tell,the one that he mentioned in
this response did not actuallyexist or nobody could tell that
it actually existed.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I can give you the thing that he claims existed,
but but, but is it like actuallya copy of the thing?
Copy of the thing.
Uh, no, it is a, it is, I meanit.
It was a scrap of paper thatlooked like it might have been
torn from a place, that may havebeen attached to other paper
that contains articles.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So there's no corroborating evidence that this
actually is that's good enoughfor me?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I know, but he said it was.
He said it was torn out of anewspaper.
How is that not good enough foryou?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, see, the thing about newspapers is usually they
make copies of them, they don'tjust write one.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The other thing, the fucking, the article that he's
even referencing, which, yes,you are correct, there is no
corroborating evidence.
No one else can find thisarticle, quote unquote, but all
it does is it talks about abrawl that happens in a like a
bar near the US Navy docks, andthey got a surprise to find the
place was completely empty andtwo people had disappeared.
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And then there was a weird.
It was a huge boom they heard,and that was about it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's the whole article.
Oh, OK.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
That's the, that's the corroborating media that
corroborates the whole thingthat the ship teleported and
came back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, I guess, obviously.
Anyway.
So in these notes to Jessup,alan details that or explains to
Jessup that he thinks he's indanger because he has gotten too
close to figuring out thesecrets of alien travel and that
he knows too much.
And not to ruin Mike's partlater, but this is maybe
(17:56):
corroborated- later on, whenJessup gets found dead by
asphyxiation in his car later,like a year later.
And did he do it?
Did somebody?
else undid it.
Anyway, who's to say yeah?
Who's to say so?
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Carl goes by several othernames and, like a bunch of other
writings and notes that hesends out over the years, he
goes by Senor, Professor andColonel Carlos Miguel Cristofero
Allende.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Jesus Christ.
This guy was just like Yo soyel professor.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
One time he claimed to be.
This is the only one that's noteven close to his name Vernier
Von Braun and Dr Carl.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Areier.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Von Braun and Dr Carl .
Are you kidding me, dr Carl?
Meredith Allenstein, yeah, DrCarl Meredith.
Allenstein.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're putting your real name in your fake names?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Isn't Vernier Von Braun a Nazi?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
guy, yeah, a British rocket engineer.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, he also, I think, worked with Disney.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh no, I'm sorry, I misread this.
He wrote to Werner Von Braun.
Oh, okay.
Under the name Dr Carl MurditAllenstein there it is again.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Karl Allenstein.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So he has to fucking just leave his name in there so
he decided he decided to make upa fake German sounding name
that was basically his name towrite to the German guy.
I think it's an ego thing, yeah.
Karl died in 1994, and he wasnot a doctor either, so we have
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no way of actually verifyinganything now.
We are left with what he wroteand claimed over the years.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do I want to spoil what he has said about his own
claims over the years, or issomebody going to get into that
later?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, I don't get into it if you want to.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
He has repeatedly- claimed a few things he.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He says he made it up , and then when he's asked about
it later, he's like, no, Ididn't make it up.
And then somebody else askedand he's like, oh yeah, I made
that up.
And then later he's like, no, Idefinitely didn't make it up,
so who's?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
to say it's just a professional gaslighter I mean,
isn't that like the best way oflike building credibility,
though?
Because you can't prove ordisprove it, so you have to go
find the evidence who the fuck?
Knows nothing, saying there isa potato.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh my god, carl allen , you fucking figure it out
anyway, and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So let's try to fucking figure it out, you
fucking figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So let's try to fucking figure it out.
Does anybody have any moreinformation about what exactly
happened during this allegedmaybe thing that happened, that
somebody didn't or did make up?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, so I'm going to reiterate some things that
Jason already kind of said.
But basically a TLDR of that isthat obviously we were testing
unified field theory.
We wanted to bend someelectromagnet fields around the
ship, making it visible when weflipped the switch.
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Witnesses claimed that therewas this big glowing green-blue
haze around the ship.
And then accounts say that theship went from Philadelphia to
Norfolk, virginia Goddamn saythat.
The ship went from Philadelphiato Norfolk, virginia Goddamn
say that 20 times fast.
After a few minutes itreappeared back in Philadelphia.
However, according to the story,the Navy covered up a lot of
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the incident and quietlytransferred surviving crews to
other assignments and erasedrecords of the experiment
altogether.
So essentially that's whathappened to the ship, or so we
were told.
Um, but we do have someaccounts of like what scientists
saw when they actually got onto the ship after the experiment
(22:00):
.
So when they came aboard theyfound several sailors were
partially embedded into theship's metal Arms, legs, torsos,
all fused into bulkheads andthe decks, as if the ship had
kind of swallowed them almost.
So just kind of half in and out.
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Some men were stuck inside ofwalls.
They said there was a lot ofpeople just screaming in agony.
Others were just simply missing.
Crew members were just neverfound.
They were just unaccounted for.
Some were just like babblingincoherently and catatonic, like
their brains had been liketotally scrambled.
Some went insane on the spot,unable to process all the events
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of like what transpired beforethem.
Some survivors laterexperienced freezing moments
where they would vanish in thethin air and then reappear not
knowing what had just happened.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
that You're just shopping at Kohl's and then
you're like, oh, this looks niceand then it's gone and they
just reappear and it's likeclosed, what happened, what
happened?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
gone, and he doesn't reappear and it's like closed.
What happened?
Fucking wacky.
Let me tell you um where do you?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
think it never says where do you think they go?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
whatever is between here and norfolk, virginia.
Uh, the veil.
The veil, yeah, I don't know,man, it's really weird, like I
can't even imagine that, to behonest with you, like it seems.
I mean, it's very what's theword I'm looking for?
It's very sci-fi in nature, youknow.
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So we see a lot ofteleportation going correctly in
most movies and like stuff.
We never see it going wrong,except if you watch the fly.
So I don't know.
But some witnesses also saidthat they had injuries and like
burns, like radiation burns,apparently.
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A few burst into flames withoutany reasoning and then one of
the famous stories say that agroup of sailors in a bar weeks
later got into a fight and then,like during the chaos, to just
like blinked out of existence infront of everyone.
But just little stories as faras I know.
But yeah, I guess thescientists were basically saying
(24:26):
that they were really not surehow any of this worked.
They essentially know that theythrew the switch, they made the
ship invisible and in theprocess they had tampered with
space and time and matter itselfand then, basically, fearing
any more disasters like this,they just shut the project down
immediately, classified all therecords records and told
(24:47):
everyone to quiet up and go dosomething else.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So there was uh, there is another story of I
forgot what it was calledspecifically.
It's like anchoring orsomething where, um, some of the
the sailors afterwards wouldneed to like almost constantly
have someone they like love orlike care for, like touch them
or like hold on to them, andthat was like keeping them from
(25:14):
phasing out, somehow like that,like they're their anchor onto
this world and if they let gothen they would like just phase
out or back in.
Very weird stuff, weird stuff.
I also think the guys in thebar got very lucky, because I'm
trying to imagine like they'regetting in a bar fight, someone
throws a stool at them and theyjust blink out right before the
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stool hits them.
Yeah, probably a lot betterthat that happened to you.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I can clarify a little more about the people
that disappeared from the bar,but I figured I'd let you guys
talk more about it.
Does anyone else have anythingto say about those two before I
give it away?
I?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
don't have anything to say about those.
I have one little blurb ofstuff left, but I can wait until
after discussion.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
No, no, no, you go ahead.
The only thing I would shareabout the guys from the bar is
that later they both were talkedto and found and contacted and
apparently they were underageand not supposed to be there and
if they found out they wouldget dismissed from service.
So a waitress snuck them outthe back.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
They're like we see the fight cloud happening, with
all the fists and the hands andthe shoes coming out of it.
She's just like what are youchildren doing here?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But yeah, with all the fists and the hands and the
shoes coming out of it she'sjust like yoink.
What are you children?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
doing here?
Yeah, we're just roughhousing.
That's what I imagine theysound like.
I'm 14.
I'm a man, I can fight forAmerica, but I can't drink about
it Nope.
So officially the record forthe ship.
But I can't drink about it Nope.
So officially the record forthe ship is this though so it
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was a real US Navy destroyer.
It launched in 1943.
Spanned World War II escortingconvoys across the Atlantic.
After the war, she wastransferred to the Greek Navy in
1951 and renamed HS Leon, andthen it served until 1999, and
then it got scrapped.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Can you just do that you want this boat.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The USS Eldridge was given to Greece as part of the
Mutual Defense Assistance Act,which was a plan that President
Truman put in place To helprebuild European countries
Military stocks After World WarII, because America felt that
Having their European allies InEurope well stocked From a
(27:42):
military perspective Was a goodidea, considering Russia was
also quickly building theirmilitary Dude.
That's so wild.
We're doing the same thing now.
Right, military perspective wasa good idea, considering Russia
was also quickly building theirmilitary Dude.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's so wild.
We're doing the same thing now,right?
Yeah, of course, why wouldn'tyou?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Providing aid to our European allies so that they can
fight off.
Yeah, we're doing that exactsame thing.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The UN.
We're helpful in there and wealways want to be yeah Anyway so
Conformation.
There's a couple otherexperiments that are taking
place around.
This time of the Philadelphiaexperiment Turns out we're very
efficient at just fucking aroundand finding out.
(28:26):
Not all of them took place inPhiladelphia, but some did.
Um, first and foremost, I'mgoing to be talking about a
couple of things.
One of these things we may haveto talk about a little bit more
in depth because it sounds sofucking weird, Um, but I want to
talk a little bit about gauzing.
Um, basically, gauzing is aunit of strength of a magnetic
field in a, like deep sea minestrigger.
(28:51):
Um.
These mines would be able toread the um magnetic field of um
, like boats or ships oranything that's coming by, and
it would basically be able tofeel that like disruption in the
magnetic field and that willtrigger the mind to uh float up
and detonate.
Um.
(29:11):
Degaussing was an experimentthat the us was doing on some of
the boats in philadelphia which, uh, basically the first round
of degaussing experiments wastaking electromagnetic copper
coils and just wrapping the shipin it and then that doing so
(29:32):
would fuck with theelectromagnetic field around the
ship, thus affecting how themines track them, basically
making it so the mines wouldn'tbe released and explode the
ships because it wouldn't trackor notice these differences in
the electromagnetic field.
We soon discovered that justwrapping a giant fucking
(29:57):
battleship in copper coil.
A.
Super time-consuming, B superexpensive.
Not all that worth it to do onyour hundreds of.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
What a good way to spend your time.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, especially because degaussing only worked
for so long.
After a while the potencybasically of the effect of the
electromagnetic field from thecopper would disintegrate and
you have to basically rechargeit after a while.
So it would basically be themhaving to go out there, wait for
(30:32):
this thing to fail, these coilsto fail, bring it back to
fucking port, charge it up whichtakes forever send it back on
its way.
It had a limited range,essentially, before it had to be
charged back up.
It just wasn't that effective.
So they discovered somethingelse they they called whipping.
Same concept, but it was justcheaper to do, because now,
(30:52):
instead of wrapping these coppercoils around the ships and
bolting them on and making surethey stay, they just decided to
just hook them off the side ofthe fucking boats and just let
them drag along the ship.
They just have these tentacledspools of copper wiring, just
giving off an electromagneticfield.
(31:13):
That is just throwing off thesemines.
And that was way lesstime-consuming, way less costly,
because again, now you're notwrapping an entire ship in
copper, you're just letting ittrail behind it in the ocean.
Same effect, basically.
(31:34):
Um, another big experiment thatwas going on in this time frame
which kind of has to do withthis was from the germans
surprise, surprise, it's called.
It's called die glocky, dieglocky um, something like that,
or, as translated in german, thenazi bell.
So we may have to talk aboutthis more in depth at some point
(31:58):
, but essentially the nazi bellis this giant bell-shaped device
that the nazis discovered andstarted experimenting with, that
emitted this super lethalradiation to anybody that came
in contact with it.
They had multiple scientiststhat were working.
Is this going to the whole Naziwarlock stuff Kind?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
of A little bit.
God, I hope so.
That's something we for sureneed to talk about.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, just the Nazis and the occult man.
If they weren't Nazis, it'd becooler If it was the whole Nazi
thing.
If it was just like, yeah, wejust.
If it was just like a bunch ofdudes in the early 1900s that
were like, yeah, we love fuckingexperimenting with artifacts
and the occult, I'd be like,fuck, yeah, but no, they had to
be Nazis and ruin it all.
(32:43):
So way to go, Hitler.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, you just hadn't .
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm going to clip that out of context.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
If the.
Nazis had the Nazis, they'd becool.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
So does this end up connecting to the Nazi UFOs in
Antarctica again?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
A little.
Why is everything?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
connected Everything.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's not that it connects to it directly, but
it's the same type of weird shit.
So, essentially, this giantthing is a bell-shaped device
that, again, every scientistthat worked on it had lethal
radiation exposure.
Every test subject that theyhad come on it had lethal
(33:27):
radiation exposure.
Every test subject that theyhad come near it, lethal
radiation exposure.
It contained inside of it thisthing they called serum 525,
which is this purple, like wegooey, like liquidy substance
that they had to keep inside ofa lead container because it
itself was radioactive as well.
(33:49):
The Nazis discovered that if youspin this thing around and
around and around and around andaround, it could manipulate
space and time, and they weresomewhat successful with this.
They were able to have certainthings blink in and out of
existence.
We did have similar issues.
Uh, happen to what happenedwith the philadelphia experiment
(34:10):
, where you know things thatblipped out would come back
fucked up.
Uh think event horizon, youknow when the ship goes to.
You know the hell place,everything, nothing is the same.
They're all fucked up.
It's basically that, it's.
It's that exact same type ofpremise.
The people that that worked onit there there's you know
quote-unquote interviews of thembeing like yeah, we went to a
(34:33):
place, kind of fucked up dude,um, a lot of people lost their
minds.
They said it was a land oftorture, essentially.
So it's basically event horizon, but not space.
Nazi germany, um, silent hillguy, yeah, yeah, um, so they,
they definitely did want to.
The end game for this was forthis to be used to travel
(34:55):
dimensions.
Um, that was a big thing.
You know, allegedly, orwhatever, with like um, nazi
germany back in the day was, um,towards the end of the war,
they knew they were losing, sothey had the uh, the mindset.
You know, it's the same reasonthey went to hide in Antarctica,
or on the moon, if you believein that ship.
(35:15):
It's basically saying, yeah, wemay not win this world, but
we're going to retreat, we'llwin another world.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Or we'll come back later where you can't touch us.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, but their whole thing was okay.
Maybe we lost this one.
Let's travel to a differentdimension where we can take over
that one.
Yeah, so I find that very Again, sans Nazi stuff Kind of a cool
concept.
A giant bell thing that tearsthrough dimensions, that is
(35:48):
theorized and this is how itties to the UFO thing that Sorry
, I had to pause and take adrink of water for a dramatic
effect.
So it is theorized that thisbell was actually a piece of
alien technology that was foundfrom a crashed UFO site and when
we found it, that's when westarted doing our experiments on
(36:10):
it, and that serum 525 may havebeen some sort of fuel or
energy supply for this UFO.
And this is how we also theykind of theorized how UFOs
travel through or travel around.
It's not necessarily that a UFOcame from a far distant planet.
(36:31):
This made them theorize thatUFOs came from far distant
dimensions and this is how theygot here is with this bell.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
With a bell, a Nazi bell a.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Nazi bell, the fucking greys you know, in
dimension.
Dimension five, eight to ninewas like.
Well, if we had a Nazi weaponand we traveled to Earth in 1942
or whatever.
Like what Great idea.
Great idea, what's a Nazi?
I don't know.
We'll figure out when we getthere.
Klee whore, so that's kind ofthat I couldn't think of an
(37:08):
alien name.
So Klee whore is the name.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
That's a great one.
I think you should keep it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's from Smegmar 9 , episode 3.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Klee, whore's bell's Bell, very soon, I think,
kleehor's Bell.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh my god let's see what Art Bell has to say about
this.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'll get Delutybot to start working on that there we
go.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I tap Kleehor's Bell and I scry.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
So that's really about it when it comes to, like,
other big experiments that arehappening at that time.
Uh, now I know what you'reprobably wondering, though, like
why is it that we can't findany records on this thing and I
think you guys said it bestyourselves earlier it's that
government that g danggovernment cover-up dude.
Well, that.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
G-Dang government cover-up.
They had that totally real newscoverage from that totally real
newspaper article that was in atotally real newspaper.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You're right, the government doesn't.
They were too late, theycouldn't cover it up.
The cat was out there, it wasalready out.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You can't put the cat back in the bag unless you have
food.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Government's covering everything up by a couple of
different means.
I'm glad you brought it up firstand foremost, like you brought
up before, jessup deadasphyxiated in his car a year
after everything coincidence?
I fucking think not, dude.
Was he having financial hardtimes?
Probably, I don't know.
Is that a big, big factor inpeople dying?
(38:35):
Yeah, but did he do it?
Nah, government cover-up.
They killed him for publishingall this stuff even though it
already came out.
So like, why would they have tokill him?
Also, many believe that thegovernment altered the ship's
logs and crew to show thatnothing suspicious occurred.
(38:56):
Like Doug said before, theywould take some crew off of the
ships and they would put themonto other jobs or other boats,
other ships, so it would be likeno one was ever there on the
Eldridge to begin with.
Many of the crew also, or manybelieve that the crew who died
afterwards with the you knowwhere they were, like blooping
in and out of existence or theone that just spontaneously set
(39:16):
on fire.
People believe that theyactually did not die but in fact
were kidnapped by thegovernment for testing purposes
so they could be experimented onto see if they could give any
more information or insight intohow to harness this
Philadelphia experimenttechnology.
Also, in 1984, there is a moviethat came out about the
(39:38):
Philadelphia experimenttechnology, also in 1984, there
is a movie that came out aboutthe Philadelphia experiment.
This movie is rumored to befunded by the government to make
the experiment seem more like asci-fi, a sci-fi story, rather
than something that's real.
This obviously would help keeppeople off the trail.
Oh, it's just a dumb movie.
The the movie itself apparentlyis not that good and allegedly
(40:01):
the government did that onpurpose to further discredit the
experiment, make a bad movie,make people talk about how
shitty the movie is.
All of a sudden, thePhiladelphia experience is more
of a joke than anything.
They even changed sole eventsof the experiment in the movie
just to further cause chaos andconfusion with what actually
happened in.
The movie talks about two guyswho during the uh, when the uh
(40:27):
eldridge was going green andblue and all that haze was going
on, they fell overboard andthey were time traveled into the
year 1984 where they had tofigure out what the hell was
going on in the future andfigure out how to get back to
the past.
Samurai Jack and they yeah,that never happened In the
Philadelphia experience.
(40:48):
That's just part of the movie.
I'm pretty sure the names of thepeople that fell off the ship
are supposed to be names ofpeople that were on the crew of
the Eldritch, but I don't fullyremember.
But yeah, that seems to be manyof the takes, another being
this one I only saw like one ortwo people talking about.
(41:10):
But another one is that theygot to Carl Allen and that's one
of the reasons why Carl Allenwas, throughout the later years
of his life, like, yeah, I madethat shit up.
No, I didn't.
Yeah, did no, I didn't.
Because the governmentbasically kept coming to him
like hey, shut the fuck up.
And he's like, okay, yep, Imade it all up, it's not real.
And then after a while hethought he was safe and he was
like, totally, saw that shit.
And the government comeknocking on his door again.
(41:30):
He's like, uh, sorry guys,totally made it up, not real.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
No, it definitely would give him multiple chances,
definitely would absolutely belike all right, I'm gonna take
your word for it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
This, yeah, they wouldn't just they wouldn't just
have him shoot himself oranything hamburger time him
hamburger time him.
Um, but that, that's this.
That's the philadelphiaexperiment, like the all in all
pretty fun concept of uh I I dohope, and I do feel like it was
(42:05):
on purpose, that they called itthe Eldritch and just kind of
changed the spelling of it so itdid have that Julian
Lovecraftian feel to it.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I really hope that was on purpose if I ever see
anything that is like a littlelike tip of the hat to like a
fucking pop culture icon orsomething like that, that's my
first key clue that this eitherprobably isn't real or like it's
like.
Uh, like, if there was avampire and I, what was that
rick and morty thing?
(42:32):
The coach ferratu like yeah,you, if you were trying to hide
this shit, you wouldn't tip yourhat to.
Like cthulhu and the eldritch.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I'm doctor, my name is dr acula.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's the thing that always gets me yeah, with these
sort of conspiracy theories,things is they're always like oh
, they left clues hidden inplain sight.
Really, this and this and thisand this, it all adds up.
It's like why would they dothat?
Why?
Why would they do?
That If you're so convincedthat the military has somehow
been able to keep so many peoplesilent on this for so long, for
(43:09):
decades and they would puthidden references in the names
of things.
What is this?
This National Treasure?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
The Da Vinci Code.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
You don't leave a trail.
That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
What do we think, boys?
Real or fake?
Absolutely real, alright, we'lljust say it now that works.
Huh, yeah, I.
Absolutely real.
Oh, alright, we'll just say itnow that works.
Huh, I'm going fake.
You had to.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I'm going fake.
Yeah, I'm going fake too.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I'll say fake.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
My biggest argument for why I think it's fake is not
all that I can let all thatdumb shit slide and still think
it might be half true.
The biggest thing that makes methink it's fake is the fact
that if you look at it from apurely military, experimental
mindset, this was a success.
(44:16):
If the whole point was to haveyour, your, your ship go
invisible and instead you justinvented teleportation, they
wouldn't just scrap this idea.
oh yeah, this would be somethingyeah, they don't care how bad
it it was on a person.
I mean, if people, thegovernment runs mk, ultra, you
(44:37):
know Orange, all that shit theydon't care if it fucks up and
kills people.
They're going to run tests onit and see what was successful
and what's not and try it againand again and again.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The fact that this is the only yeah, they're going to
do it again, but like, putmonkeys on the ship instead.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, the fact that this is the only example of this
type of like teleportationthing happening that kind of
tells me it's not real.
If there's multiple examples ofit, I might be like, okay, sure
, you might have a littlesomething here.
But yeah, the government wouldsee this teleportation thing and
be like bet, we're gonna usethis and look more into it.
I will kill a thousand men amillion men for this.
We don't care it's fuckingwater noose from Monsters Inc.
I'll kill a thousand children ifit care.
It's fucking water noose fromMonsters Inc.
I'll kill a thousand childrenif I be it's that.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I guess the minor concern that you do have with
this is that if the ship is justrandomly teleporting, when you
do this, how are you going to be100% sure that you're not just
going to teleport it into themiddle of the, like Empire State
Building or something?
Speaker 5 (45:35):
that's true, but that's too spot on for it to be
like, because if they're justtesting something out, there's
no like little panel box like infucking Doc Brown's car.
Like here's the coordinates.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's why they would keep experimenting, in my
opinion, yeah but that's thereason why they shouldn't,
because they don't know whereit's going to go.
You're not going to take anaircraft carrier and
accidentally 9-11 yourself.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I mean, we created the nuke with the small chance
that it would literally explodethe atmosphere and kill
everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, but nobody's going to get upset about that.
Because there's going to getupset about that, because
everybody's going to be, there'sgoing to be nobody to complain
also.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
I feel like if they were testing a giant ship
teleporting, there would be somuch news coverage on this,
because it's not just like,they're not just hiding it like
you know what I'm saying, likewell, think about the.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
My biggest question is everybody likes to think that
every reference point you knowwhat I'm saying.
Well, think about the.
My biggest question iseverybody likes to think that
every reference point thatexists exists on Earth.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
If you're looking at, teleporting something that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Make sure you're not going to just slam it into the
moon.
We're moving at like 22,000miles an hour on average in a
direction somewhere.
How are you accounting for thatz value of like where you are
statically in space?
That's fair, yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're making two assumptions you're making.
The first assumption is thatyou're assuming that it's going
to maintain its momentum as it'steleporting, and two, the other
assumption that you're makingis that there's no friction or
anything that's going to slow itdown where it's not going to
end up, at like, in the centerof the planet Right.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I feel like the like, the gate idea of like a portal
or something where there's anentrance and an exit makes more
sense than just like blasting abeam at a ship and being like oh
there go, there is Stargatetechnology.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
We talked about it with that one wacky guy I forgot
his name when they were like oh, they teleported us as kids and
I was Obama or whatever.
I forgot that guy.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I guess maybe they were some shit.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Maybe this was the.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
That was the fucking, that website.
Goddamn, what was that called?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
yeah, that thing we did like four parts of yeah,
maybe the ascension glossary orwhatever.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
No, no no, no, no, no , no.
No different thing.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
There's always the bad shit the same conspiracy
theory?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
no no, this is like the field studies institute.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
No, that wasn't about the field studies.
No, no, this is like an ARG.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
The Field Studies Institute.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh yeah, that's right no that wasn't about the Field
Studies.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Field Studies Institute was where the guy
claims to go back in time, right?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
No Field.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Studies Institute was just it's just an ARG.
I thought that was involved inthat, though.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, no, no, no, field Studies is just a fun little
ARG thing about it.
All this dumb shit is like it'sstacking up yeah, this is gonna
bother me, doug, look it up, I'mdoing it, I'm doing it already
no, but I guess, maybe, maybethe Philadelphia experiment it
was like the rough draft of whatbecame like that thing, like
the Stargate experiments andshit like that.
(48:52):
That's entirely possible aswell.
I guess could be.
Yeah, I don't Doug, are youlooking up like past episodes?
Or that's entirely possible aswell?
I guess Could be, doug, are youlooking up past episodes?
Yeah, I'll know when I see it.
I know that much.
I just have to see it ProjectPegasus.
No, yeah, it was ProjectPegasus, that was the one.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
I knew it was something.
I said paperclip, but whatever.
Something with a P that's all Igot.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
I enjoyed it, though.
Fun story.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I will say fun story it was the fucking, the melding
with the ship parts, like thecrew, like that great writing
great writing.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
you know what else has fantastic writing is?
Potentially you viewer slashlistener If you write in and
send us an email at gmailcom andyou send us your hometown
horrors subject line hometownhorrors 2025.
Give us a scary thing thathappened to you and then sign
your name at the bottom of itand we'll read it off on an
episode and if it's super juicy,maybe we'll have you on to read
(49:58):
it.
Who knows?
But yeah, send those over,because we're getting a spooky
season here soon and we needthem now so we can have enough
to fill an actual episode,because I feel like last time we
were getting close to scrapingthe barrel.
But yeah, we need them now.
Speaking of our email andeverything, socials are attached
to that too.
Find us on every social mediathing and on YouTube.
(50:19):
Don't look under the internetor DilityPod Fucking everywhere.
If you're on I don't know ifyou're still on Twitter for some
reason.
I don't know why you'd be there, but we're there.
I think somehow we'reeverywhere.
Instagram, we're prettyprolific on, so just check us
out, man, it's fun, check it out, yeah, check it out.
And then go ahead.
(50:39):
And you know, if you, if youwere ever on a boat with your
father.
Go ahead and wrap some coppercoils around him, give him a
kiss and he'll probably vanish.
And wind up.
Yeah, for a little bit, andwind up in Norfolk, kentucky or
wherever the fuck.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
And then you get your government issued black den.
Yeah, I saw that YouTube havebeen Norfolk and then you gave
your government a shoot blackedin.
Yeah, I saw that.
Youtube story again the otherday and.
I forgot about that, jesus.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Holy Lord.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Well, matt what do you have to say to the people?
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I already said what I got to say what do you have to
say for yourself?
Perfect.
What do you have to say toyourself people?
I already said what.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
I got to say what do?
You have to say for yourselfDoug, what do you got?
I don't know.
I guess slappier peen againstthe USS Eldridge and I guess now
named the HR Leon in Greece.
Go to Greece everyone.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Jason, what do you got?
As always, stay paranoid, butI'm going to bandwagon on Doug.
Yeah, go have sex with an oldUS boat that lives in Greece now
Broad daylight, just no shame.
Just fuck it Just as much asyou want.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Here's my strange addiction I fuck old boats.
I fuck old boats.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's the pica of sexual problems.
Oh, one more thing If you everwant to hear like more like deep
dives into topics and hear likethe really cool and like
in-depth side of things, don'tlisten to us, I guess, because
that will just edit me goinghard on a topic right out of
there.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Salty.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You're going to be disappointed if you go to Greece
, because the D-54 Leon was soldfor scrap on 11th of November
1999.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Boo, Actually, I think I said that during my part
, so I respect you on that partapparently.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Leon, no, no, that think I said that during my part
, so I respect you, we all know.
No, that edit was funny, though.
Thank you, matt.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Well, now you just have a sexy mystery on your
hands.
You'll find out where the partswent.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
And then fuck them in the junkyard with no shame.
Everybody, have a blessed daydon't look under the internet.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
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