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Speaker 2 (00:17):
don't look under the internet really fluffing those
numbers.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Good job guys, welcome to touch grass, the
podcast everybody we're gonnatouch some grass and podcast
about suck your ass.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Shout out to ghost, our patron ghost episode is that
?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
is this how we're starting this?
Are we just, like I've saidalready?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have already in this episode.
I have already stoppedrecording and started recording
once, because we talked aboutother shit for so long, and now
we're already three minutes intothis recording let's just,
let's roll with it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, that's the beginning I forgot.
Oh yeah, cold open I forgotwhat I was supposed to do for
ghosts, so shout out to Ghostsfor Patreon, you rock.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
It would have been a cold open had Mike not said
we're starting now.
We are starting the podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, speaking of starting the podcast, I'm Mike,
that's Matt.
Hello Mike, that's Matt.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, it isn't you ass starting the podcast that's Doug
Speaker 4 (01:31):
welcome.
To don't look under theinternet.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
That's Mike that's Jason no, it isn't there he is.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Wow, that was hard.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Jason, can you dial back the game?
The game, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We have no housekeeping today.
This is second episode.
So neener, neener, boo, boo UmBoys.
We talked A lot before this andI gotta say it was a bit of a.
Some of the things I said was abit of a tongue twister.
It to say it was a bit of a, itwas a bit.
Some of the things I said was abit of a tongue twister.
It felt like it was all overthe place a bit of a tongue
twister.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I hate where this is going already.
Yeah, this is not great.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It was almost.
It was almost like my tonguewas super malleable like a
certain type of metal calledtungsten.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It was like uska.
It's like it was uskud.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Like tungsten metal.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
These are words with tongue in them.
You're going the wrongdirection.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're talking today about the tunguska event and why
it might not be as cut and dryas one might think.
How's that?
Was that good, wow, that builtsome mystique.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
It shrouded what we were talking about in mystery a
bit.
Mike, I think you did a greatjob.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thank you Like a Philadelphia eagle.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
How else do we ever start these episodes than at the
beginning, when most storiesstart.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We should start at the end, I think actually, I
prefer honestly if we could tella story from end to beginning
in a coherent way, I thinkthat's an actual achievement.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, this took place in like 1910, so it ends with
everyone dead.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
For us, I think, if we could tell a story from
beginning to end in a coherentway, that would be an actual
achievement.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I think we would be worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize,
which we should call theNorwegian Prime Minister about
that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Do you think if that ever happened, like if we got
through a topic With like nointerruptions, very cohesive we
would all at the same time getlike the little Xbox
notification underneath ourscreen?
That was just like you did it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It would just be a horror podcast at that juncture.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's fair what is the Tunguska event?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I guess the Tunguska event is a very old event.
This one actually is dated.
Most collaborative sources havedated this in 1908, right
around June 30th, and honestly,apparently science is able to
nail down an exact time localtime in 1908, around 7.17 am.
(04:18):
And so this event, the Tunguskaevent, when we refer to this,
what we talk about is man.
I don't know how to describethis without just getting all
scientific pretty muchimmediately on it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Get all scientific almost immediately on it.
Man, Do your thing.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
No, I want to build a little mystery around it.
I don't want to just explaineverything immediately and then
you guys are just going well, Ihave nothing to talk about.
We have to go explaineverything immediately.
And then you guys are justgoing well, I have nothing to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
We have to go Um two first.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well, okay, Go do that and then come back to this
exact moment in this podcast andthen we'll we'll be good, Um,
so there's.
The best way to sum this up isum, Russians, Russian settlers
in the hills northwest of LakeBaikal, which is Baikal B-A-I I
(05:12):
knew I couldn't get through thiswithout some kind of that's my
favorite nickname for Michaelthis is the B meme.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
This is the B meme.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, that's a meme we should absolutely bring back one
second what's up?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
uh, yeah, can you do, uh, whatever you get times two.
Thank you, are you?
Talking to bike, sorry yeah,right now, bicle is actually on
their way to go get culvers, andI could use a fucking burger
what's the?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
B meme.
Bikel, you don't know likewhere.
You just replace the firstletter of any word with the B
emoji no, I've never seen thatno yeah, my age is showing here.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Am I the only one who knows what?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't know.
We have a podcast called don'tlook under the internet.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I, I the only one who knows what I don't know.
We have a podcast called Don'tLook Under the Internet.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm the only person on this that knows the bee emoji
meme.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Apparently yeah, I'm at a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm familiar with the bee meme Scrapping one of the
boobs we talked about earlier.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So Lake Bicle.
The only reason this isrelevant is that this is the,
the world's deepest uh lake.
It's in siberia, um, and so therussian settlers as well as the
uh.
It was a tribe of people calledthe uh, even even event key, I
think, is how it's pronouncedevent king uh natives, which is
(06:43):
a tribe tribe in Siberia.
At the time, they observed abluish light, nearly as bright
as the sun, moving across thesky and leaving a very thin
trail.
Closer to the horizon, therewas a this big flash producing a
giant billowing cloud, whichwas followed by a pillar of fire
that cast a red light on thelandscape.
The pillar then split in twoand then faded, turning to black
(07:07):
.
About 10 minutes later therewas a sound similar to our like
artillery fire, so like justthis giant boom echoed
throughout this entire region.
Eyewitnesses closer to theexplosion reported uh.
The source of the sound movedfrom the east to the north of
them and the sounds wereaccompanied by a shockwave that
knocked people off their feetand broke windows hundreds of
(07:29):
kilometers away Sounds like apretty wild event, and that's
just kind of an overview of whatit is.
I actually, if you guys wouldn'tmind, I have an eyewitness
accord of the entire thing andit's testimony of somebody named
Chu Chan of the Shania Geartribe and it's, as recorded by
(07:52):
somebody named IM Suslov in 1926is when this was taken oh, so
the meme is making fun of Bloods, like the gang god damn it oh,
I get it now.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
okay, I get it now.
Okay, I get it now, becausethat's what they do.
They don't say C's because it'sfor Crips.
They replace every C's with B's.
Very good, mike.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Thank you.
So this is the testimony, firsteyewitness account of this
event, this, this very strange,possibly celestial, possibly
paranormal, otherworldly eventthat happened, uh, in the
siberian region of russia.
And, again, this is one of thenomadic tribes of the region in
1926 this is translation, so Idon't know how accurate it is,
(08:43):
but this is according.
According to the translation,this is what they said.
We had a hut by the river withmy brother Chekharan.
We were sleeping.
Suddenly, we both woke up atthe same time.
Somebody shoved us.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Was it Mudbutt Hut?
Mudbutt Hut.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Was it Mudbutt Hut?
We heard whistling and felt thewrong wind.
Chekharan, but we heardwhistling and felt the wrong
wind.
Check, check her in, check herown, shock her own.
Uh, check her and said can youhear all those birds flying
overhead?
We were both in the hut,couldn't see what was going on
outside.
Suddenly I got shoved again,this time so hard I fell into
the fire.
I got scared, check her and gotscared too.
(09:21):
We started crying out forfather, mother, brother, but
nobody answered.
There was a noise beyond thehut.
We could hear trees fallingdown.
Checker and I got out of oursleeping bags and wanted to run
out, but then the thunder struck.
This was the first thunder.
The earth began to move androck.
The wind hit her hut andknocked it over.
My body was pushed down bysticks, but my head was in the
(09:42):
clear.
Then I I saw a wonder.
The trees were falling.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
This sounds like a post from fucking the caveman
support subreddit.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Oh my God, it totally does.
Where do you think the mudbutthut reference came?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
from, I got you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Thank you, I'm slow apparently.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Big B's for Matt everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Then I saw a wonder.
Trees were falling, thebranches were on fire, it became
mighty bright how can I saythis?
As if there was a second sun.
My eyes were hurting, I evenclosed them.
It was like what the Russianscall lightning and immediately
there was a loud thunderclap.
This was the second thunder.
The morning was sunny, therewere no clouds, our sun was
(10:28):
shining brightly, as usual, andsuddenly there came a second one
.
Checker and I had somedifficulty getting out from
under the remains of our hut.
Then we saw that above, but ina different place, there was
another flash and loud thundercame.
This was the third thunderstrike.
Wind came again, knocked us offour feet, struck the fallen
trees.
We looked at the fallen trees,watched the treetops get snapped
(10:50):
off, watched the fires.
Suddenly, checkerun yelled lookup.
And pointed with his hand.
I looked.
I looked there and saw anotherflash and it made another
thunder, but the noise was lessthan before.
But the noise was less thanbefore.
This was the fourth string,like pointed with its feet.
Um, and he goes off.
Uh, he goes in and he says thatthere was a fifth one,
eventually, but it was small andsomewhere very far away where
(11:12):
the sun goes to sleep, um, andso that should kind of give you
an insight into the.
It's a little.
The mindset of the people thatsaw this might have been a
little bit different than peoplewho were a part of, like, the
modernized world.
I think that this, this groupof people, were still very much
like, beholden to the land thatthey were on and their ancestors
(11:33):
had been on, and theirrelatives just far away from
society.
I mean, it's Siberia, forChrist's sake, like it's, that's
, that's the middle of fuckingnowhere.
There is nothing in Siberia, Iwill say.
The explosion that they weretalking about and that this
person saw and witnessedfirsthand also registered at
seismic stations across Eurasia.
(11:54):
An airwave blast were detectedin Germany, denmark, croatia,
the United Kingdom and, ashonestly, as far as far away as,
uh, the dutch east indies andwashington dc.
Um, it's estimated in someother places the shockwave was
equivalent to an earthquakemeasuring about 5.0 on the
richter scale.
That is a detailed account ofwhat this, what this is, and
(12:21):
what the people who might havewitnessed this very mysterious,
strange event might have gonethrough as they saw it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I also read it was as powerful as 185 atomic bombs
going off.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Jesus shit explosion huge explosion, yeah, something
like 50 megatons or some shitlike that way more than that,
but oh damn okay yeah, but yeah,that's uh, that is the uh an
eyewitness account, as well asjust a general overview of what
this actually is when ithappened, where it happens and
who was affected by it.
(12:54):
So anyone have any info on like?
If anything happened to likethe, was it just a loud noise or
did like?
Was there destruction in anycapacity?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Honestly, jason, not really, not a whole lot, because
you got to understand that thisthing blew up above like one of
the most sparsely populatedareas on the entire planet, so
Siberia and Russia is like the,the middle bit, and like almost
nobody lives there there's, sothere's a few people there that
(13:25):
saw it, like jason said, butlike the number of people who
would have been in this vicinitywould have probably been in the
dozens to low hundreds.
So uh, but it did destroy 830square miles of forest, so
there's like a bunch of fuckingtrees fell over jesus christ
yeah, that's okay.
So for for reference, that wouldhave been capable of destroying
(13:46):
four chicagos that's insane tochicago is 234 square miles, so
830 that's a lot of fucking area.
Um, it would have, basically ithave basically leveled any major
metropolitan area in the world.
It apparently knocked peopleoff their feet.
(14:07):
The shockwave broke windows inbuildings like towns, way, way,
way far away.
Airways from the blast wereactually detected in Germany,
denmark, croatia and the UnitedKingdom, and as far away as
Washingtonways from the blastwere actually detected in
Germany, denmark, croatia andthe United Kingdom, and as far
away as Washington DC.
Like Jason mentioned, it wouldhave been a 5.0 on the Richter
(14:28):
scale earthquake, and theexplosion itself was actually
visible up to 500 miles away,and it blasted so much sediment
into the air that it hung aroundfor weeks afterward, which
actually resulted in abnormallybright nighttime skies all the
way across europe, and umobservatories in california were
(14:50):
actually able to observe thatthere was a significant
reduction in the transparenttransparency of the atmosphere
for literally months after thishappened.
Yeah, um, so there's no like,but aside from the trees being
leveled and all the sedimentbeing pushed up into the air,
there was really no like crateror any evidence that anything
(15:14):
actually impacted the ground,but in 2007, some russian
researchers claimed that areally large lake was actually
created by the, create the bythe crater and filled in later.
Um, but so, like scientists,other scientists have disputed
this and claimed that that's notpossible.
(15:35):
Who's to say, uh and?
no one no people than we.
Yeah, and then there was someother eyewitness accounts of the
air getting super duper hot andbasically just like whipping
around in between buildings andreports of artillery like
explosions, like jason mentioned, real loud, real loud bang.
But for the most part it justkind of fucked up some trees, a
(15:58):
lot of trees there.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It was like square miles of trees it was like 8
million trees or something likethat.
It was a lot of a lot offucking trees.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The wikipedia article does also claim that three
people died, but I checked thesources for that and I honestly
couldn't verify that or figureout where it came from.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So I mean it's possible just because of how
desolate and remote that area is, like how?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
accurate is the census there really?
This also happened 120 yearsago.
I'm sure the record keeping isnot in Russia sure it's on point
.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I'm sure it's an estimate from like the fact that
it's such a big area there,like odds are, there were a
handful of hunters or hikers orsomething people just wandering
around.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
They got absolutely decimated.
And eventually somebody waslike what happened to Vladimir.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That asteroid or whatever got him.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Fucking Ugg disappeared.
What the hell?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Ugg Traditional Russian name that was flat, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's what I think it was but yeah that's all I got
, mostly it's just, there'snobody there and there really
wasn't anybody there after thishappened there were three people
, now none where once was threenow
Speaker 4 (17:20):
are none now.
There were none where once wasthree, now are none alright.
So I got some of the expeditionthat happened in 1921 and kind
of like what they found fromthat.
So a group of scientists led byLeonid A Kulik, a Russian
mineralogist and meteoritistwhich sounds like a fake word,
(17:45):
you made that up.
They were working at a museumin Terograd or St Petersburg,
but basically after the RussianRevolution and Civil War the
government was really short onresources.
So Kulik was really interestedin this and he said basically,
(18:07):
hey, this might yield valuableiron and our meteorite fragments
, and kind of convinced thegovernment and like ruling
authorities that this was a goodidea.
So they were like all right,sure, like ruling authorities
that this was a good idea.
So they were like all right,sure.
So Siberia in 1921 was veryunstable due to its civil war,
so there's really limitedfunding supplies and like
transports for his team.
(18:28):
Um, and the Tunguska site waslike incredibly remote, swampy
wilderness, no roads, villagesor reliable maps, and because of
these obstacles, uh, the 1921expedition never actually
reached like the epicenter ofthe blast.
Um, they only made it as farout as the lower tunguska and
(18:49):
I'm gonna butcher this, butpodkaminya, tunguska rivers.
So that's right yeah yeah, sure,yeah, uh, I don't know exactly
where those fall on a map to bevery accurate, but basically it
seems like they only made itlike maybe a couple, like maybe
a mile and or so essentially towhere this blast happened.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I did look it up on a map to try to figure out and
like get some reference.
And now there is like a littletown called Tunguska that is
like in on that river.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Oh, that gives you absolutely no context.
They're like well, the land'salready flat.
We might as well build likelike it's a perfect spot.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, um, basically, uh, kulik and his team uh
interviewed local Evinki, uh,people who were described, uh,
who basically described exactlywhat Jason was talking about
earlier the fireball, thedeafening explosion, how the
forest was flattened, andbasically they were kind of
terrified to talk about it andthe blast, they viewed it as a
(19:53):
curse or like a punishment fromthe gods, you know.
So Kulik noted that he, likereally strange tree fall
patterns and scorched areas that, like they just couldn't get
any good detailed surveys ofwhen they were there.
Um, it was like a very strange,like just how everything had
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happened was very strange andnot, like, I guess, natural as
they described it.
Um, and there was no meteoriteevidence.
So the 21 trip, like the 1921trip, failed to locate any
meteorite fragments or a crateror really any scientific proof
of what had happened, despitehim, you know, kind of being
(20:34):
like, hey, we could do this, wecould find these things if we go
, but they didn't.
So, while this matters, um,this, the 1921 expedition was
important because basically,they, they, they at least
centered on something that hadhappened, was not just a local
myth.
They, they were like somethinghappened here, we're not sure
(20:54):
what, but it's important and weneed to know what happened right
, and it allowed him to gather abunch of witness accounts and
some geographic data tobasically persuade the Soviet
Academy of Sciences to fund aproper scientific mission in
1927.
So it took a whole six fuckingyears for them to get another
(21:16):
expedition up and going.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
This asteroid fell in like and then go back.
Yeah, this asteroid fell inlike 1910 and it took them like
17 years almost 20 years yeah,to get a proper expedition.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
So when they returned in 1927, um, they came with
better backing and their teamwas like uh, they were able to
reach the blast zone, or likethe epicenter, and this is when
they noticed that the shape ofthe flattened forest was like a
butterfly shape.
So it kind of came out in likethese big ovals, into like a,
(21:47):
like a longer center, if thatmakes sense.
Um, so basically, uh, flattenedforest trees pointing radially
outward from ground zero.
Um, at the center they foundscorched and upright trees, so
like stripped of branches, liketelephone poles, essentially
just like bare-ass trees whichsupport the airburst theory,
(22:08):
which I'm sure one of us will goover in a minute.
But there's no crater, therewere no meteorite pieces, just
microscopic particles in thesoil and tree resin which still
didn't lead to any kind of likerough theory of what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
How high can you get on tree resin?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Oh, not the same kind of resin.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I'm sure I have a guy I can email if you want to know
the answer to that question.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Is tree resin just your plug.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
You're emailing your plug.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's the guy that used to dig up graveyard trees
and boil them into tea incollege and he got high by
witnessing the memories of thedead.
I like to think Jason's justlike dear plug.
I require another XX amount.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And he sends it and his plugs got like a fucking
hotmail.
It's like an automated emailLike I'll get back to AFL.
Just an automated response,like I'll be back with you in 24
to 48 hours.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I have a lot of cases right now.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
World's worst.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I'm not doing work.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, so world's worst, I'm notdoing work um, I'm not an
office until blame.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
If you need drugs, hit up.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hit up my guy that's taking over for me a picture of
the money you want to spend andthen fax me a picture of your
balls, alright?
So in 1921, um, the expeditionwas kind of like a
reconnaissance that they endedup doing and it was a really
near mishit.
It could have been like, ifthey didn't find any evidence,
(23:49):
more than likely they wouldn'thave sent him in in 1927.
And I still don't really knowwhat all.
There's not a whole lot morethey uncovered in the 1927 other
than the fact that they weremore in the blast zone, um,
because it still didn't reallytell us much, but it did spark,
uh, like some pretty seriousinvestigations.
(24:11):
So, like in 19 or the 1921, didI should say so?
Um, yeah, that's that's kind ofwhere we were at with the
scientific backing of this,which is really funny, because I
assumed that the 1927expedition would have been like
here's what happened, right,here's the thing that caused the
thing.
But that's not the case at all.
(24:31):
So we're still left with abunch of question marks and what
ifs?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
yeah, there are some theories.
Yeah, there are some theoriesas to what may or may not have
had happened here.
First and foremost, the mostcommon theory is an asteroid,
kind of like what we've beentalking about before and that
the big old rock and how it blewup in the atmosphere.
(25:00):
So this is the most agreed upontheory so far.
Is this the airburst theory?
Yeah, it's the airburst theory.
So one of the major combatantsto why this wasn't an asteroid
was the fact that there was nocrater.
It was just everythingflattened, except the odd like
(25:21):
trees In the center that weren'tflattened.
Everyone Thought that was kindof odd, but apparently this is
very common with airbursts.
I guess Japan I think it wasJapan anyway they had an
airburst Asteroid At one pointin Japan's history where they
had a Similar issue, where theyhad trees sitting up, standing
up in the epicenter ofeverything.
All the others were blasteddown.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
When they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima.
The building that was directlyunderneath the bomb and it
exploded is still there.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's mostly because all that force isn't going out.
It's hitting that guy directlyon and all the others around are
going out.
It's a bubble.
You know that would be whatit'd do, but that holds up.
It's a bubble, you know so it'dbe what it'd do, but that holds
up, that's the business sayyeah.
Yeah, like Doug said, they didfind fragments of an asteroid.
They're very minute and theywere scattered all over, but
(26:13):
they did find fragments of likeyou know, like iron and like
lead-based.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Very, very minuscule amounts in the soil.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Mm-hmm, the tree thing even, like I mentioned
before, has been witnessed tohappen already.
They call it debranching.
Basically, why this happens isif we're going to get scientific
with it fast-moving shock wavesthat break off a tree's
branches before the branches cantransfer the impact momentum to
(26:44):
the tree's stem.
This is confirmed to be proofof some form of atmospheric
impact from the blast.
Another reason why this holdsup is because witnesses saw the
fucking asteroid.
There's many who claim to haveseen a giant fireball in the sky
.
They described it as being blue, uh bluish, with uh light
(27:05):
nearly as bright as the sun uh,just like sky.
I can burn twice, says hi take alook I'm in tongues, um, but
that.
That's like what jason said hehe had.
There's multiple eyewitnessesof them being like I saw that
fucking thing.
There goes, I saw it.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
That was one of the Siberian, like the nomadic
tribes that lived there.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, the Davinki.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I didn't think we would get Like an eyewitness
account of one of the Tribesthat is literally Known for
being nomadic around the area ofSiberia.
Which is a wild description.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Sometimes if you see some really fucked up shit, you
kind of are a little loosearound the whole nomad thing.
If I saw a giant fireball inthe sky, some guy was like, did
you see that?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I'd be like yeah, I'm opening it up.
Shut up, we're walking.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
We're going to the city.
We're going to the city,whatever city's in Russia, Well
no.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Nomads would probably , by definition, stay away from
cities.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah.
So you're probably askingyourselves why the hell is
Deluty talking about this thing.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
It seems pretty cut and dry Russia again.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it seems pretty cut and dry.
A big old asteroid came down.
We're going back to our rootsof Russia, what with the sleep
experiment and whatnot.
That's where we got our fundingand shit.
Yeah, just like every otherright-wing podcast we're doing a
really bad job.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know I don't think they're getting their money's
worth.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So you're like like why are we talking about this?
because there's some otherfucking theories out there and
one of them is super fuckingcool and fun and juicy and we're
going to save that one for last.
But I'm going to talk aboutsome of the smaller ones out
there.
First and foremost, a lot ofpeople think that the Tunguska
event was an experiment from theRussian government themselves.
(29:08):
This was them basically testingout weapons and potentially
some of the first tests of anatomic bomb.
Obviously, there's noreferences or documents to this,
as the Russian government atthe time was going through ass
loads of like civil war andgovernment changes.
(29:29):
Rasputin you know there's onebut but that guy should not have
gotten to where he was.
I don't know if you guys know ahistory of Rasputin should not
have gotten to where he was.
I don't know if you guys know ahistory of Rasputin.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I would love to do a one-off episode just about the
history, life and times ofRasputin, because you have to
remember he died in the 60s.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, but TLDR with Rasputin just a fucking snake
oil salesman that somehow got tohave become like the right hand
of the fucking, like czar ofthe Russian oligarchs yeah,
somehow he never showered.
That's a whole thing, yeah, butanyway.
(30:14):
So everyone thinks that thiswas like some very early
development technology of likethe first atomic bomb drops
again, no, some very earlydevelopment technology of like
the first atomic bomb dropsAgain no real evidence on that.
And the fact that there wasn'tmuch like radiation or anything
that is kind of, and no crater.
So that was kind of out.
The second aliens, our favorite, this.
(30:38):
I love the concept of it, butthere's literally nothing here
for it.
But a lot of people think thatthis was either a UFO that
crashed, landed here or somesort of alien weapon was
discharged in this area there is.
I like the idea of aliens, Ialways liked the idea of aliens,
but this I do not think holdsup because there are literally
(30:58):
no sightings, no evidence,there's no witnesses, there's no
nothing of a UFO.
There's no one even saying thatthere's a UFO.
They talk about a giantfireball in the sky.
They're like, oh, that wasprobably the asteroid.
They're like, yeah, that makessense.
Asteroids look like that.
So I like the idea of aliens,but the fact that people are
just like, oh, it's aliens, Ithink they're just looking for
(31:22):
dumb shit.
Aliens yeah, there's somethingcalled the Vern shot, which is
basically magma from the Earth'score, was basically leaked into
this giant pocket of naturalgas, caused a big explosion to
erupt and that is what causedthis just a giant pocket of gas
(31:43):
and magma.
Apparently, siberia does sit ona pretty big like what's it
called?
I guess like magma pocket orsomething Like.
They got some like undergroundvolcanic activity that's going
on over there, but again, hotmagma, liquid hot magma, magma,
but once again there's no crater.
So how could this be?
Doesn't make any sense.
(32:04):
You know, you would expect tosee some form of a crater or
something.
But others and this isrelatively recently, this was
brought up in the 70s and thisis from actual scientists
brought this one up.
I want to say NASA scientistsbrought this theory to attention
.
Black holes is apparently anoption as well.
(32:25):
Some theorize that a black holecollided with Earth.
A very small, a minuscule blackhole collided with Earth and
caused a matter slash antimatterexplosion in the atmosphere.
This theory in theory holds upstronger theory in theory holds
up stronger than the other ones,but it leaves out one detail
(32:46):
and that is A.
We found fragments of theasteroid, again very small, but
we found them.
We also found something that iscalled nanodiamonds, which are
diamonds that are literallymicrometers.
Yeah, they're nano.
They're nanometers in size.
They're very tiny, butapparently nanodiamonds are very
, very common in commonly foundin sites where asteroids and
(33:11):
meteors have exploded, eitherimpact or atmospheric impact.
Apparently, that's just a thingthat happens, which does make a
little bit of sense.
I mean an asteroid, I mean adiamond is just made from
pressure.
All that pressure from 185atomic bombs going off at once
is probably going to make somediamonds, no matter how small,
but I think that idea would haveheld up a bit better if not for
(33:35):
the black hole idea would haveheld up better if not for the
nanodiamonds that were found.
All that being said, there isone theory that I think holds up
the best out of all of them,and I choose.
I choose to believe this one isreal.
Doug, do you want to, do youwant to reveal upon us the truth
of what is the Tunguska event?
(33:57):
Give us the truth, dougles.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
The best theory, theory numero uno, as one might
call it the best theory.
It's the only theory thatmatters.
Tiny hand, it's got tiny hands,so the best theory is the Tesla
death ray theory.
So if you're unfamiliar withthe Tesla debt.
(34:20):
Right In the early 1900s,nikola Tesla often spoke about a
wireless transmission systemusing the Wardenclyffe Tower on
Long Island Now.
Officially, it was meant totransmit wireless electricity
and communications, but Teslaalso hinted that it had weapons
applications, a directed energybeam that could basically bring
(34:43):
down fleets of enemy ships orplanes.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Funny enough speaking of that we talked about in our
previous episode, thePhiladelphia Experiment.
In some of the theories Ibelieve Jason was mentioning how
Einstein was brought on becauseof his theories on everything.
Tesla was supposed to beworking hand-in in hand with
Einstein on the Philadelphiaexperiment but he dropped out
because I believe it was becausehe didn't have control over
(35:09):
everything, like he had too manypeople above him trying to tell
him what to do, so he was likenah, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I'm going to work on my death ray.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I was never going to be allowed to do anything
scientifically like astoundingwith his findings, because you
can't control the masses whenyou're doing things that nikola
tesla wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
You know, I'm saying it just wasn't possible I will
say in regards to our lastepisode, philadelphia experiment
, uh, that there was a a theoryaround that that the technology
provided for that was taken fromaliens but then refined and
made usable for humans by aconjunction effort between
(35:52):
Albert Einstein, nikola Tesla italways comes back against you
and it, but at one step of crazy.
Just one more step of crazy allright.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So where were we okay ?
So, uh, basically, in the 30suh, newspapers started dubbing,
uh, this concept, uh that nikolatesla was talking about the
death ray, though he liked tocall it the teleforce weapon.
So how is this connected, right?
Some theorists claim that in1908, tesla tested a version of
(36:27):
this beam from his wardenclyffetower and, according to the
story, he aimed the device atthe arctic circle to demonstrate
a wireless power transmission.
Um, choosing this area becauseit was remote and uninhabited.
Uninhabited did uninhabited.
There was no one there.
(36:48):
So yeah, so he tried to do hisdemonstration there, right?
So, instead of harmless energy,yeah, seriously, fuck all those
animals that like cold, fuckyou whale, fuck you whale and a
fuck you dolphin.
Um, so the experiment allegedlydischarged a massive beam that
(37:10):
ended up striking siberia,causing the tunguska explosion.
So this theory came from um,basically.
So this connection wasn'tdidn't happen until long after
the event.
Um, it appeared in a bunch oflike speculative, ufo paranormal
literature from the 1970s wherewriters connected his
(37:33):
experiments um to Tunguska.
But the thing is,wardenclyffe's shutdown happened
in 1908.
The thing is, wardenclyffe'sshutdown happened in 1908.
So, like, I think, because theywere like, ah, like he was here
in 1908 and it happened in 1908that there's like this big
connection there, right?
Um, some also tie it to robertperry's arctic expedition of the
(37:56):
time, claiming that tesla toldperry perry I'm not sure how to
say it, uh, but to look for alight show in the arctic skies.
So it could be very possiblethat tesla was like testing this
out at the time.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Um do you go into the device that he gave perry at
all?
Uh, I did not.
So tldr, uhdr, tesla heallegedly invented a device that
was like a big copper ring witha bunch of other shit to it.
But this device could.
It was basically like a what isit called?
(38:33):
A seismometer, like the thingthat senses earthquakes.
It was pretty much similar tothat, but it could sense and
scale um, the energy that'sbeing given off from the death
rate.
So he gave it to Perry on histrip to Antarctica so he could
uh track and and uh uh documentthe readings he would get from
(38:57):
the death rate when it arrivesin Antarctica.
Basically sent him out there toget readings of the power of
the death rate.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Do you imagine if he he accidentally zapped this dude
and he's like oh, there's the.
Oh, my god, it's strong, it'svery strong, 100%, it's a
seismograph.
Seismograph, thank you.
Or a Richter scale?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
if you're talking about earthquake.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The seismograph is the device you use to figure out
where it measures on a Richterscale.
The Richter scale is like it'sin numbers, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Richter I hardly know her.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
God damn it.
Alright, so the problems withthis theory?
Alright.
Wardenclyffe Tower wasn'toperational in 1908.
Tesla struggled with fundingand the tower never reached the
correct power output requiredfor such things.
It just didn't happen.
(39:55):
There's no evidence of a beamweapon.
Tesla had very, you know,grander ideas, but his teleforce
machine, described in the 1930s, was never built.
Uh, and the physics oftransmitting that much energy
wirelessly through the air tosiberia is to this day not
possible with known science.
Um, the blast matches anasteroid airburst, far better
(40:18):
tree patterns, seismic waves,etc.
Eyewitness reports, all of thatfall much more into a probable
theory of an airburst from ameteor.
So, um, yeah, it's a cooltheory, definitely the best
theory, but very unlikely theory.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Unfortunately there's also, uh, there, I forget
exactly what it was um, therewas a quote that tes Tesla said
in like the 30s or somethinglike that, that they think was
like a reference to Tunguska.
It was something like oh yeah,I unleashed terrible power onto
a portion of the earth orsomething.
(40:57):
I forget exactly what it is,but people are like, oh, he's
alluding to the Tunguskaexperiment.
He did it and this is his wayof telling us.
I, I, I enjoyed that.
So what are we thinking here,boys?
(41:19):
Do you think it's asteroid orTesla?
In my Jason, I'm going to letyou go first.
Why not both?
What if he shot it?
And what if he shot the deathray?
And immediately, as he wasdoing that, the asteroid
exploded.
And he was like, what if wewere good time?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Nazi warlocks, led by Albert Einstein and Nikolai
Tesla, were trying to attract anew super weapon, which which
basically said hey, we're goingto throw asteroids at certain
points on Earth because we canattract them using occult
rituals and electromagnetism.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
The Nazis used Tesla's death ray to ring the
Nazi bell, which caused anasteroid to appear from another
dimension and hit Tunguska Boom.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I think it was the death ray, but hear me out, I
think that he was getting nofunding because the government
was like this shit's too good,we can't let this become a thing
.
And he was like fuck you, I gotit to work and then, as soon as
it did work, our government waslike shut it down.
(42:24):
We got to take whatever this isand we got to take it for
ourself.
Not that we're blowing anyoneup, but you know government shit
.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, we're going to wait a couple of years to blow
up people up.
We're going to couple.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
we're going to couple 30 or so do this on a little, a
smaller scale, if you will.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
What do you think, Matthew?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I think the technology they use in the
Philadelphia experiment toaccidentally teleport a ship was
used on the Tesla that Elonfired into space and then it
accidentally came back down in1908.
(43:04):
And as it was about to slaminto Russia, the battery
detonated and it created thishuge explosion.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
The Philadelphia experiment does have time travel
capabilities.
We established that, yeah, timetravel and teleportation.
It showed up in the past.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah yeah, the ship teleported to somewhere in like
the 60s or some fucking shit.
So who's to say that youcouldn't take a Tesla back to
1908?
Behold a shitty car.
There's your Tesla.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay, I would encourage the rest of you To do
the same.
I only refer to Teslas asswastikars.
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
That's not bad, it's not bad at all.
Hitmobile, shitmobile.
But, boys, we got reallypolitical on these last two
episodes.
We're hot, we're spicy.
I very much just found, foundthis topic interesting.
There's not really much to it,it's not really anything of
(44:01):
value, until you get to theTesla shit and you're like there
it is.
That's what this has beenmissing Is whack job conspiracy.
People Just can't be fuckinghappy.
There it is.
That's what this has beenmissing is whack job conspiracy.
People just can't be fuckinghappy with a fucking asteroid
hitting the Earth.
No, yeah, throw fucking Teslaor something into it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
The best thing about that is when Michael angrily
grabbed his microphone it kindof squealed.
So it was like listen here.
And another thing.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
People just can't be happy with one fucking thing.
No, you got to throw a fuckingconspiracy.
Not everything is a fuckingconspiracy theory.
Sometimes it's a rock.
What if it is?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Mike, leave it be.
What if it?
Speaker 5 (44:42):
is a conspiracy.
What if it is?
Leave it be.
That question alone is worthbillions of dollars every year.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Honestly, most of the time that Doug was talking, I
got distracted by Google Mapsand was just digging around in
random towns.
I saw that In the middle ofRussia because I Google mapping
like area areas, like sparselypopulated areas of the planet
that you don't know much aboutis so much fun like sparsely
populated areas of the planetthat you don't know much about
is so much fun.
But I found one one bagel likepastry restaurant in the middle
(45:14):
of fucking nowhere in the middleof russia.
It has 3.8 stars on google mapsand it is apparently the only
local restaurant within likeprobably hundreds of miles, and
the first review just says Ibought myself from shawarma and
got poisoned by it.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Well, that's not good .
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Where do you poop?
You have hundreds of miles.
You can't go anywhere.
You just shit in the river.
This right here.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I guess you just type in Tunguska into Google Maps.
There's just a blip that saysTunguska blast event.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, I was showing it on the stream.
If you try to google maps fromthat to literally anywhere else,
it'll give up.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
It'll be like nope government cover up very grassy,
very grassy the closest town Icould find to.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
It was like a 13 hour drive from the nearest drive
through that I could find holyshit, and it was an Arby's no, I
didn't have directions from myhouse it was an Arby's.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
No, I didn't have a directions from my house.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
It was an Arby's slash post office slash, it was
everything hospital.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
So apparently you can't drive there or walk or
bicycle.
That's even worse.
That's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Five out of five stars when they sent people up
there.
Five out of five stars.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
When they sent people up there.
Five out of five starsParaglide.
Well, gentlemen, all I got tosay is when, well gentlemen,
where are they?
What the fuck are they.
All I got to say is you know, Ithink this goes to show that
the area of Tunguska in yourheart, no matter where you are
(46:54):
in the world, is always just astone's throw away.
That's all I got to say, matt.
What do you have to say?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Don't buy shawarma from this place in the russia
jason.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
What do you have to say?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
uh, as always, uh, stay paranoid.
I do want to, um, I want tocorrect something, obviously.
Uh, I want to say thank you toslapping mothman's ass for
correcting me.
Rasputin died in 1916, not1960s, although we did have a
very funny conversation abouttaking him to Woodstock and the
(47:37):
drug cult that might come fromthat thereafter.
So, either way, good idea,bring Rasputin to Woodstock.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Also not to get too deep into Rasputin still, but
apparently there is audio of asong, that of him singing a song
.
I cannot find it for the loveof me, so if anyone can find,
that audio.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
I need to find that now.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
He sounds like he's like, he's like.
He's got such a weird deepvoice.
If anyone can find that audio.
Maybe.
Yeah, if anyone can find thataudio, throw it in the general
chat or, like the patreon chat,throw it somewhere so I can.
I can find it.
But or just comment something.
Get it to me somehow.
I need to hear it again.
I only heard it once.
I can never find it again.
(48:18):
Um doug, what do you have tosay?
Speaker 4 (48:21):
holy shit, uh, I don't know, I don't know, man,
uh, okay, slap if youputin'speen.
Well, okay, maybe actuallygreat, great segue.
If you take Rasputin's peen andyou slap it hard enough, you
might create a Tunguska event ofyour own the smell alone yeah
(48:48):
that's all I got.
I have nothing else.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I'm here for it.
Well, everybody may rock.
Christ be with you.
Hey, I found it.
Oh my god, I found it?
Speaker 5 (49:00):
found it?
Hey, I'll send it to you.
We'll post yes, bye everybodywe love you, bye everybody.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Bye, everybody Bye.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Don't look under the internet.
don't look under the internet really fluffing those
numbers.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Good job guys, welcome to touch grass, the
podcast everybody we're gonnatouch some grass and podcast
about suck your ass.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Shout out to ghost, our patron ghost episode is that
?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
is this how we're starting this?
Are we just, like I've saidalready?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have already in this episode.
I have already stoppedrecording and started recording
once, because we talked aboutother shit for so long, and now
we're already three minutes intothis recording let's just,
let's roll with it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, that's the beginning I forgot.
Oh yeah, cold open I forgotwhat I was supposed to do for
ghosts, so shout out to Ghostsfor Patreon, you rock.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
It would have been a cold open had Mike not said
we're starting now.
We are starting the podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, speaking of starting the podcast, I'm Mike,
that's Matt.
Hello Mike, that's Matt.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, it isn't you ass starting the podcast that's Doug
Speaker 4 (01:31):
welcome.
To don't look under theinternet.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
That's Mike that's Jason no, it isn't there he is.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Wow, that was hard.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Jason, can you dial back the game?
The game, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We have no housekeeping today.
This is second episode.
So neener, neener, boo, boo UmBoys.
We talked A lot before this andI gotta say it was a bit of a.
Some of the things I said was abit of a tongue twister.
It to say it was a bit of a, itwas a bit.
Some of the things I said was abit of a tongue twister.
It felt like it was all overthe place a bit of a tongue
twister.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I hate where this is going already.
Yeah, this is not great.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It was almost.
It was almost like my tonguewas super malleable like a
certain type of metal calledtungsten.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It was like uska.
It's like it was uskud.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Like tungsten metal.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
These are words with tongue in them.
You're going the wrongdirection.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We're talking today about the tunguska event and why
it might not be as cut and dryas one might think.
How's that?
Was that good, wow, that builtsome mystique.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
It shrouded what we were talking about in mystery a
bit.
Mike, I think you did a greatjob.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thank you Like a Philadelphia eagle.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
How else do we ever start these episodes than at the
beginning, when most storiesstart.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We should start at the end, I think actually, I
prefer honestly if we could tella story from end to beginning
in a coherent way, I thinkthat's an actual achievement.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, this took place in like 1910, so it ends with
everyone dead.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
For us, I think, if we could tell a story from
beginning to end in a coherentway, that would be an actual
achievement.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I think we would be worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize,
which we should call theNorwegian Prime Minister about
that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Do you think if that ever happened, like if we got
through a topic With like nointerruptions, very cohesive we
would all at the same time getlike the little Xbox
notification underneath ourscreen?
That was just like you did it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It would just be a horror podcast at that juncture.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's fair what is the Tunguska event?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I guess the Tunguska event is a very old event.
This one actually is dated.
Most collaborative sources havedated this in 1908, right
around June 30th, and honestly,apparently science is able to
nail down an exact time localtime in 1908, around 7.17 am.
(04:18):
And so this event, the Tunguskaevent, when we refer to this,
what we talk about is man.
I don't know how to describethis without just getting all
scientific pretty muchimmediately on it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Get all scientific almost immediately on it.
Man, Do your thing.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
No, I want to build a little mystery around it.
I don't want to just explaineverything immediately and then
you guys are just going well, Ihave nothing to talk about.
We have to go explaineverything immediately.
And then you guys are justgoing well, I have nothing to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
We have to go Um two first.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well, okay, Go do that and then come back to this
exact moment in this podcast andthen we'll we'll be good, Um,
so there's.
The best way to sum this up isum, Russians, Russian settlers
in the hills northwest of LakeBaikal, which is Baikal B-A-I I
(05:12):
knew I couldn't get through thiswithout some kind of that's my
favorite nickname for Michaelthis is the B meme.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
This is the B meme.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, that's a meme we should absolutely bring back one
second what's up?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
uh, yeah, can you do, uh, whatever you get times two.
Thank you, are you?
Talking to bike, sorry yeah,right now, bicle is actually on
their way to go get culvers, andI could use a fucking burger
what's the?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
B meme.
Bikel, you don't know likewhere.
You just replace the firstletter of any word with the B
emoji no, I've never seen thatno yeah, my age is showing here.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Am I the only one who knows what?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't know.
We have a podcast called don'tlook under the internet.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I, I the only one who knows what I don't know.
We have a podcast called Don'tLook Under the Internet.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm the only person on this that knows the bee emoji
meme.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Apparently yeah, I'm at a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm familiar with the bee meme Scrapping one of the
boobs we talked about earlier.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So Lake Bicle.
The only reason this isrelevant is that this is the,
the world's deepest uh lake.
It's in siberia, um, and so therussian settlers as well as the
uh.
It was a tribe of people calledthe uh, even even event key, I
think, is how it's pronouncedevent king uh natives, which is
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a tribe tribe in Siberia.
At the time, they observed abluish light, nearly as bright
as the sun, moving across thesky and leaving a very thin
trail.
Closer to the horizon, therewas a this big flash producing a
giant billowing cloud, whichwas followed by a pillar of fire
that cast a red light on thelandscape.
The pillar then split in twoand then faded, turning to black
(07:07):
.
About 10 minutes later therewas a sound similar to our like
artillery fire, so like justthis giant boom echoed
throughout this entire region.
Eyewitnesses closer to theexplosion reported uh.
The source of the sound movedfrom the east to the north of
them and the sounds wereaccompanied by a shockwave that
knocked people off their feetand broke windows hundreds of
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kilometers away Sounds like apretty wild event, and that's
just kind of an overview of whatit is.
I actually, if you guys wouldn'tmind, I have an eyewitness
accord of the entire thing andit's testimony of somebody named
Chu Chan of the Shania Geartribe and it's, as recorded by
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somebody named IM Suslov in 1926is when this was taken oh, so
the meme is making fun of Bloods, like the gang god damn it oh,
I get it now.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
okay, I get it now.
Okay, I get it now, becausethat's what they do.
They don't say C's because it'sfor Crips.
They replace every C's with B's.
Very good, mike.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Thank you.
So this is the testimony, firsteyewitness account of this
event, this, this very strange,possibly celestial, possibly
paranormal, otherworldly eventthat happened, uh, in the
siberian region of russia.
And, again, this is one of thenomadic tribes of the region in
1926 this is translation, so Idon't know how accurate it is,
(08:43):
but this is according.
According to the translation,this is what they said.
We had a hut by the river withmy brother Chekharan.
We were sleeping.
Suddenly, we both woke up atthe same time.
Somebody shoved us.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Was it Mudbutt Hut?
Mudbutt Hut.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Was it Mudbutt Hut?
We heard whistling and felt thewrong wind.
Chekharan, but we heardwhistling and felt the wrong
wind.
Check, check her in, check herown, shock her own.
Uh, check her and said can youhear all those birds flying
overhead?
We were both in the hut,couldn't see what was going on
outside.
Suddenly I got shoved again,this time so hard I fell into
the fire.
I got scared, check her and gotscared too.
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We started crying out forfather, mother, brother, but
nobody answered.
There was a noise beyond thehut.
We could hear trees fallingdown.
Checker and I got out of oursleeping bags and wanted to run
out, but then the thunder struck.
This was the first thunder.
The earth began to move androck.
The wind hit her hut andknocked it over.
My body was pushed down bysticks, but my head was in the
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clear.
Then I I saw a wonder.
The trees were falling.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
This sounds like a post from fucking the caveman
support subreddit.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Oh my God, it totally does.
Where do you think the mudbutthut reference came?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
from, I got you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Thank you, I'm slow apparently.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Big B's for Matt everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Then I saw a wonder.
Trees were falling, thebranches were on fire, it became
mighty bright how can I saythis?
As if there was a second sun.
My eyes were hurting, I evenclosed them.
It was like what the Russianscall lightning and immediately
there was a loud thunderclap.
This was the second thunder.
The morning was sunny, therewere no clouds, our sun was
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shining brightly, as usual, andsuddenly there came a second one
.
Checker and I had somedifficulty getting out from
under the remains of our hut.
Then we saw that above, but ina different place, there was
another flash and loud thundercame.
This was the third thunderstrike.
Wind came again, knocked us offour feet, struck the fallen
trees.
We looked at the fallen trees,watched the treetops get snapped
(10:50):
off, watched the fires.
Suddenly, checkerun yelled lookup.
And pointed with his hand.
I looked.
I looked there and saw anotherflash and it made another
thunder, but the noise was lessthan before.
But the noise was less thanbefore.
This was the fourth string,like pointed with its feet.
Um, and he goes off.
Uh, he goes in and he says thatthere was a fifth one,
eventually, but it was small andsomewhere very far away where
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the sun goes to sleep, um, andso that should kind of give you
an insight into the.
It's a little.
The mindset of the people thatsaw this might have been a
little bit different than peoplewho were a part of, like, the
modernized world.
I think that this, this groupof people, were still very much
like, beholden to the land thatthey were on and their ancestors
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had been on, and theirrelatives just far away from
society.
I mean, it's Siberia, forChrist's sake, like it's, that's
, that's the middle of fuckingnowhere.
There is nothing in Siberia, Iwill say.
The explosion that they weretalking about and that this
person saw and witnessedfirsthand also registered at
seismic stations across Eurasia.
(11:54):
An airwave blast were detectedin Germany, denmark, croatia,
the United Kingdom and, ashonestly, as far as far away as,
uh, the dutch east indies andwashington dc.
Um, it's estimated in someother places the shockwave was
equivalent to an earthquakemeasuring about 5.0 on the
richter scale.
That is a detailed account ofwhat this, what this is, and
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what the people who might havewitnessed this very mysterious,
strange event might have gonethrough as they saw it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I also read it was as powerful as 185 atomic bombs
going off.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Jesus shit explosion huge explosion, yeah, something
like 50 megatons or some shitlike that way more than that,
but oh damn okay yeah, but yeah,that's uh, that is the uh an
eyewitness account, as well asjust a general overview of what
this actually is when ithappened, where it happens and
who was affected by it.
(12:54):
So anyone have any info on like?
If anything happened to likethe, was it just a loud noise or
did like?
Was there destruction in anycapacity?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Honestly, jason, not really, not a whole lot, because
you got to understand that thisthing blew up above like one of
the most sparsely populatedareas on the entire planet, so
Siberia and Russia is like the,the middle bit, and like almost
nobody lives there there's, sothere's a few people there that
(13:25):
saw it, like jason said, butlike the number of people who
would have been in this vicinitywould have probably been in the
dozens to low hundreds.
So uh, but it did destroy 830square miles of forest, so
there's like a bunch of fuckingtrees fell over jesus christ
yeah, that's okay.
So for for reference, that wouldhave been capable of destroying
(13:46):
four chicagos that's insane tochicago is 234 square miles, so
830 that's a lot of fucking area.
Um, it would have, basically ithave basically leveled any major
metropolitan area in the world.
It apparently knocked peopleoff their feet.
(14:07):
The shockwave broke windows inbuildings like towns, way, way,
way far away.
Airways from the blast wereactually detected in Germany,
denmark, croatia and the UnitedKingdom, and as far away as
Washingtonways from the blastwere actually detected in
Germany, denmark, croatia andthe United Kingdom, and as far
away as Washington DC.
Like Jason mentioned, it wouldhave been a 5.0 on the Richter
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scale earthquake, and theexplosion itself was actually
visible up to 500 miles away,and it blasted so much sediment
into the air that it hung aroundfor weeks afterward, which
actually resulted in abnormallybright nighttime skies all the
way across europe, and umobservatories in california were
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actually able to observe thatthere was a significant
reduction in the transparenttransparency of the atmosphere
for literally months after thishappened.
Yeah, um, so there's no like,but aside from the trees being
leveled and all the sedimentbeing pushed up into the air,
there was really no like crateror any evidence that anything
(15:14):
actually impacted the ground,but in 2007, some russian
researchers claimed that areally large lake was actually
created by the, create the bythe crater and filled in later.
Um, but so, like scientists,other scientists have disputed
this and claimed that that's notpossible.
(15:35):
Who's to say, uh and?
no one no people than we.
Yeah, and then there was someother eyewitness accounts of the
air getting super duper hot andbasically just like whipping
around in between buildings andreports of artillery like
explosions, like jason mentioned, real loud, real loud bang.
But for the most part it justkind of fucked up some trees, a
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lot of trees there.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It was like square miles of trees it was like 8
million trees or something likethat.
It was a lot of a lot offucking trees.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The wikipedia article does also claim that three
people died, but I checked thesources for that and I honestly
couldn't verify that or figureout where it came from.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So I mean it's possible just because of how
desolate and remote that area is, like how?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
accurate is the census there really?
This also happened 120 yearsago.
I'm sure the record keeping isnot in Russia sure it's on point
.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I'm sure it's an estimate from like the fact that
it's such a big area there,like odds are, there were a
handful of hunters or hikers orsomething people just wandering
around.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
They got absolutely decimated.
And eventually somebody waslike what happened to Vladimir.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That asteroid or whatever got him.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Fucking Ugg disappeared.
What the hell?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Ugg Traditional Russian name that was flat, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's what I think it was but yeah that's all I got
, mostly it's just, there'snobody there and there really
wasn't anybody there after thishappened there were three people
, now none where once was threenow
Speaker 4 (17:20):
are none now.
There were none where once wasthree, now are none alright.
So I got some of the expeditionthat happened in 1921 and kind
of like what they found fromthat.
So a group of scientists led byLeonid A Kulik, a Russian
mineralogist and meteoritistwhich sounds like a fake word,
(17:45):
you made that up.
They were working at a museumin Terograd or St Petersburg,
but basically after the RussianRevolution and Civil War the
government was really short onresources.
So Kulik was really interestedin this and he said basically,
(18:07):
hey, this might yield valuableiron and our meteorite fragments
, and kind of convinced thegovernment and like ruling
authorities that this was a goodidea.
So they were like all right,sure, like ruling authorities
that this was a good idea.
So they were like all right,sure.
So Siberia in 1921 was veryunstable due to its civil war,
so there's really limitedfunding supplies and like
transports for his team.
(18:28):
Um, and the Tunguska site waslike incredibly remote, swampy
wilderness, no roads, villagesor reliable maps, and because of
these obstacles, uh, the 1921expedition never actually
reached like the epicenter ofthe blast.
Um, they only made it as farout as the lower tunguska and
(18:49):
I'm gonna butcher this, butpodkaminya, tunguska rivers.
So that's right yeah yeah, sure,yeah, uh, I don't know exactly
where those fall on a map to bevery accurate, but basically it
seems like they only made itlike maybe a couple, like maybe
a mile and or so essentially towhere this blast happened.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I did look it up on a map to try to figure out and
like get some reference.
And now there is like a littletown called Tunguska that is
like in on that river.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Oh, that gives you absolutely no context.
They're like well, the land'salready flat.
We might as well build likelike it's a perfect spot.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, um, basically, uh, kulik and his team uh
interviewed local Evinki, uh,people who were described, uh,
who basically described exactlywhat Jason was talking about
earlier the fireball, thedeafening explosion, how the
forest was flattened, andbasically they were kind of
terrified to talk about it andthe blast, they viewed it as a
(19:53):
curse or like a punishment fromthe gods, you know.
So Kulik noted that he, likereally strange tree fall
patterns and scorched areas that, like they just couldn't get
any good detailed surveys ofwhen they were there.
Um, it was like a very strange,like just how everything had
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happened was very strange andnot, like, I guess, natural as
they described it.
Um, and there was no meteoriteevidence.
So the 21 trip, like the 1921trip, failed to locate any
meteorite fragments or a crateror really any scientific proof
of what had happened, despitehim, you know, kind of being
(20:34):
like, hey, we could do this, wecould find these things if we go
, but they didn't.
So, while this matters, um,this, the 1921 expedition was
important because basically,they, they, they at least
centered on something that hadhappened, was not just a local
myth.
They, they were like somethinghappened here, we're not sure
(20:54):
what, but it's important and weneed to know what happened right
, and it allowed him to gather abunch of witness accounts and
some geographic data tobasically persuade the Soviet
Academy of Sciences to fund aproper scientific mission in
1927.
So it took a whole six fuckingyears for them to get another
(21:16):
expedition up and going.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
This asteroid fell in like and then go back.
Yeah, this asteroid fell inlike 1910 and it took them like
17 years almost 20 years yeah,to get a proper expedition.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
So when they returned in 1927, um, they came with
better backing and their teamwas like uh, they were able to
reach the blast zone, or likethe epicenter, and this is when
they noticed that the shape ofthe flattened forest was like a
butterfly shape.
So it kind of came out in likethese big ovals, into like a,
(21:47):
like a longer center, if thatmakes sense.
Um, so basically, uh, flattenedforest trees pointing radially
outward from ground zero.
Um, at the center they foundscorched and upright trees, so
like stripped of branches, liketelephone poles, essentially
just like bare-ass trees whichsupport the airburst theory,
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which I'm sure one of us will goover in a minute.
But there's no crater, therewere no meteorite pieces, just
microscopic particles in thesoil and tree resin which still
didn't lead to any kind of likerough theory of what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
How high can you get on tree resin?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Oh, not the same kind of resin.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I'm sure I have a guy I can email if you want to know
the answer to that question.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Is tree resin just your plug.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
You're emailing your plug.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's the guy that used to dig up graveyard trees
and boil them into tea incollege and he got high by
witnessing the memories of thedead.
I like to think Jason's justlike dear plug.
I require another XX amount.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And he sends it and his plugs got like a fucking
hotmail.
It's like an automated emailLike I'll get back to AFL.
Just an automated response,like I'll be back with you in 24
to 48 hours.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I have a lot of cases right now.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
World's worst.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I'm not doing work.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, so world's worst, I'm notdoing work um, I'm not an
office until blame.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
If you need drugs, hit up.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hit up my guy that's taking over for me a picture of
the money you want to spend andthen fax me a picture of your
balls, alright?
So in 1921, um, the expeditionwas kind of like a
reconnaissance that they endedup doing and it was a really
near mishit.
It could have been like, ifthey didn't find any evidence,
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more than likely they wouldn'thave sent him in in 1927.
And I still don't really knowwhat all.
There's not a whole lot morethey uncovered in the 1927 other
than the fact that they weremore in the blast zone, um,
because it still didn't reallytell us much, but it did spark,
uh, like some pretty seriousinvestigations.
(24:11):
So, like in 19 or the 1921, didI should say so?
Um, yeah, that's that's kind ofwhere we were at with the
scientific backing of this,which is really funny, because I
assumed that the 1927expedition would have been like
here's what happened, right,here's the thing that caused the
thing.
But that's not the case at all.
(24:31):
So we're still left with abunch of question marks and what
ifs?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
yeah, there are some theories.
Yeah, there are some theoriesas to what may or may not have
had happened here.
First and foremost, the mostcommon theory is an asteroid,
kind of like what we've beentalking about before and that
the big old rock and how it blewup in the atmosphere.
(25:00):
So this is the most agreed upontheory so far.
Is this the airburst theory?
Yeah, it's the airburst theory.
So one of the major combatantsto why this wasn't an asteroid
was the fact that there was nocrater.
It was just everythingflattened, except the odd like
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trees In the center that weren'tflattened.
Everyone Thought that was kindof odd, but apparently this is
very common with airbursts.
I guess Japan I think it wasJapan anyway they had an
airburst Asteroid At one pointin Japan's history where they
had a Similar issue, where theyhad trees sitting up, standing
up in the epicenter ofeverything.
All the others were blasteddown.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
When they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima.
The building that was directlyunderneath the bomb and it
exploded is still there.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's mostly because all that force isn't going out.
It's hitting that guy directlyon and all the others around are
going out.
It's a bubble.
You know that would be whatit'd do, but that holds up.
It's a bubble, you know so it'dbe what it'd do, but that holds
up, that's the business sayyeah.
Yeah, like Doug said, they didfind fragments of an asteroid.
They're very minute and theywere scattered all over, but
(26:13):
they did find fragments of likeyou know, like iron and like
lead-based.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Very, very minuscule amounts in the soil.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Mm-hmm, the tree thing even, like I mentioned
before, has been witnessed tohappen already.
They call it debranching.
Basically, why this happens isif we're going to get scientific
with it fast-moving shock wavesthat break off a tree's
branches before the branches cantransfer the impact momentum to
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the tree's stem.
This is confirmed to be proofof some form of atmospheric
impact from the blast.
Another reason why this holdsup is because witnesses saw the
fucking asteroid.
There's many who claim to haveseen a giant fireball in the sky
.
They described it as being blue, uh bluish, with uh light
(27:05):
nearly as bright as the sun uh,just like sky.
I can burn twice, says hi take alook I'm in tongues, um, but
that.
That's like what jason said hehe had.
There's multiple eyewitnessesof them being like I saw that
fucking thing.
There goes, I saw it.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
That was one of the Siberian, like the nomadic
tribes that lived there.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, the Davinki.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I didn't think we would get Like an eyewitness
account of one of the Tribesthat is literally Known for
being nomadic around the area ofSiberia.
Which is a wild description.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Sometimes if you see some really fucked up shit, you
kind of are a little loosearound the whole nomad thing.
If I saw a giant fireball inthe sky, some guy was like, did
you see that?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I'd be like yeah, I'm opening it up.
Shut up, we're walking.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
We're going to the city.
We're going to the city,whatever city's in Russia, Well
no.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Nomads would probably , by definition, stay away from
cities.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah.
So you're probably askingyourselves why the hell is
Deluty talking about this thing.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
It seems pretty cut and dry Russia again.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it seems pretty cut and dry.
A big old asteroid came down.
We're going back to our rootsof Russia, what with the sleep
experiment and whatnot.
That's where we got our fundingand shit.
Yeah, just like every otherright-wing podcast we're doing a
really bad job.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know I don't think they're getting their money's
worth.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So you're like like why are we talking about this?
because there's some otherfucking theories out there and
one of them is super fuckingcool and fun and juicy and we're
going to save that one for last.
But I'm going to talk aboutsome of the smaller ones out
there.
First and foremost, a lot ofpeople think that the Tunguska
event was an experiment from theRussian government themselves.
(29:08):
This was them basically testingout weapons and potentially
some of the first tests of anatomic bomb.
Obviously, there's noreferences or documents to this,
as the Russian government atthe time was going through ass
loads of like civil war andgovernment changes.
(29:29):
Rasputin you know there's onebut but that guy should not have
gotten to where he was.
I don't know if you guys know ahistory of Rasputin should not
have gotten to where he was.
I don't know if you guys know ahistory of Rasputin.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I would love to do a one-off episode just about the
history, life and times ofRasputin, because you have to
remember he died in the 60s.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, but TLDR with Rasputin just a fucking snake
oil salesman that somehow got tohave become like the right hand
of the fucking, like czar ofthe Russian oligarchs yeah,
somehow he never showered.
That's a whole thing, yeah, butanyway.
(30:14):
So everyone thinks that thiswas like some very early
development technology of likethe first atomic bomb drops
again, no, some very earlydevelopment technology of like
the first atomic bomb dropsAgain no real evidence on that.
And the fact that there wasn'tmuch like radiation or anything
that is kind of, and no crater.
So that was kind of out.
The second aliens, our favorite, this.
(30:38):
I love the concept of it, butthere's literally nothing here
for it.
But a lot of people think thatthis was either a UFO that
crashed, landed here or somesort of alien weapon was
discharged in this area there is.
I like the idea of aliens, Ialways liked the idea of aliens,
but this I do not think holdsup because there are literally
(30:58):
no sightings, no evidence,there's no witnesses, there's no
nothing of a UFO.
There's no one even saying thatthere's a UFO.
They talk about a giantfireball in the sky.
They're like, oh, that wasprobably the asteroid.
They're like, yeah, that makessense.
Asteroids look like that.
So I like the idea of aliens,but the fact that people are
just like, oh, it's aliens, Ithink they're just looking for
(31:22):
dumb shit.
Aliens yeah, there's somethingcalled the Vern shot, which is
basically magma from the Earth'score, was basically leaked into
this giant pocket of naturalgas, caused a big explosion to
erupt and that is what causedthis just a giant pocket of gas
(31:43):
and magma.
Apparently, siberia does sit ona pretty big like what's it
called?
I guess like magma pocket orsomething Like.
They got some like undergroundvolcanic activity that's going
on over there, but again, hotmagma, liquid hot magma, magma,
but once again there's no crater.
So how could this be?
Doesn't make any sense.
(32:04):
You know, you would expect tosee some form of a crater or
something.
But others and this isrelatively recently, this was
brought up in the 70s and thisis from actual scientists
brought this one up.
I want to say NASA scientistsbrought this theory to attention
.
Black holes is apparently anoption as well.
(32:25):
Some theorize that a black holecollided with Earth.
A very small, a minuscule blackhole collided with Earth and
caused a matter slash antimatterexplosion in the atmosphere.
This theory in theory holds upstronger theory in theory holds
up stronger than the other ones,but it leaves out one detail
(32:46):
and that is A.
We found fragments of theasteroid, again very small, but
we found them.
We also found something that iscalled nanodiamonds, which are
diamonds that are literallymicrometers.
Yeah, they're nano.
They're nanometers in size.
They're very tiny, butapparently nanodiamonds are very
, very common in commonly foundin sites where asteroids and
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meteors have exploded, eitherimpact or atmospheric impact.
Apparently, that's just a thingthat happens, which does make a
little bit of sense.
I mean an asteroid, I mean adiamond is just made from
pressure.
All that pressure from 185atomic bombs going off at once
is probably going to make somediamonds, no matter how small,
but I think that idea would haveheld up a bit better if not for
(33:35):
the black hole idea would haveheld up better if not for the
nanodiamonds that were found.
All that being said, there isone theory that I think holds up
the best out of all of them,and I choose.
I choose to believe this one isreal.
Doug, do you want to, do youwant to reveal upon us the truth
of what is the Tunguska event?
(33:57):
Give us the truth, dougles.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
The best theory, theory numero uno, as one might
call it the best theory.
It's the only theory thatmatters.
Tiny hand, it's got tiny hands,so the best theory is the Tesla
death ray theory.
So if you're unfamiliar withthe Tesla debt.
(34:20):
Right In the early 1900s,nikola Tesla often spoke about a
wireless transmission systemusing the Wardenclyffe Tower on
Long Island Now.
Officially, it was meant totransmit wireless electricity
and communications, but Teslaalso hinted that it had weapons
applications, a directed energybeam that could basically bring
(34:43):
down fleets of enemy ships orplanes.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Funny enough speaking of that we talked about in our
previous episode, thePhiladelphia Experiment.
In some of the theories Ibelieve Jason was mentioning how
Einstein was brought on becauseof his theories on everything.
Tesla was supposed to beworking hand-in in hand with
Einstein on the Philadelphiaexperiment but he dropped out
because I believe it was becausehe didn't have control over
(35:09):
everything, like he had too manypeople above him trying to tell
him what to do, so he was likenah, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I'm going to work on my death ray.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I was never going to be allowed to do anything
scientifically like astoundingwith his findings, because you
can't control the masses whenyou're doing things that nikola
tesla wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
You know, I'm saying it just wasn't possible I will
say in regards to our lastepisode, philadelphia experiment
, uh, that there was a a theoryaround that that the technology
provided for that was taken fromaliens but then refined and
made usable for humans by aconjunction effort between
(35:52):
Albert Einstein, nikola Tesla italways comes back against you
and it, but at one step of crazy.
Just one more step of crazy allright.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So where were we okay ?
So, uh, basically, in the 30suh, newspapers started dubbing,
uh, this concept, uh that nikolatesla was talking about the
death ray, though he liked tocall it the teleforce weapon.
So how is this connected, right?
Some theorists claim that in1908, tesla tested a version of
(36:27):
this beam from his wardenclyffetower and, according to the
story, he aimed the device atthe arctic circle to demonstrate
a wireless power transmission.
Um, choosing this area becauseit was remote and uninhabited.
Uninhabited did uninhabited.
There was no one there.
(36:48):
So yeah, so he tried to do hisdemonstration there, right?
So, instead of harmless energy,yeah, seriously, fuck all those
animals that like cold, fuckyou whale, fuck you whale and a
fuck you dolphin.
Um, so the experiment allegedlydischarged a massive beam that
(37:10):
ended up striking siberia,causing the tunguska explosion.
So this theory came from um,basically.
So this connection wasn'tdidn't happen until long after
the event.
Um, it appeared in a bunch oflike speculative, ufo paranormal
literature from the 1970s wherewriters connected his
(37:33):
experiments um to Tunguska.
But the thing is,wardenclyffe's shutdown happened
in 1908.
The thing is, wardenclyffe'sshutdown happened in 1908.
So, like, I think, because theywere like, ah, like he was here
in 1908 and it happened in 1908that there's like this big
connection there, right?
Um, some also tie it to robertperry's arctic expedition of the
(37:56):
time, claiming that tesla toldperry perry I'm not sure how to
say it, uh, but to look for alight show in the arctic skies.
So it could be very possiblethat tesla was like testing this
out at the time.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Um do you go into the device that he gave perry at
all?
Uh, I did not.
So tldr, uhdr, tesla heallegedly invented a device that
was like a big copper ring witha bunch of other shit to it.
But this device could.
It was basically like a what isit called?
(38:33):
A seismometer, like the thingthat senses earthquakes.
It was pretty much similar tothat, but it could sense and
scale um, the energy that'sbeing given off from the death
rate.
So he gave it to Perry on histrip to Antarctica so he could
uh track and and uh uh documentthe readings he would get from
(38:57):
the death rate when it arrivesin Antarctica.
Basically sent him out there toget readings of the power of
the death rate.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Do you imagine if he he accidentally zapped this dude
and he's like oh, there's the.
Oh, my god, it's strong, it'svery strong, 100%, it's a
seismograph.
Seismograph, thank you.
Or a Richter scale?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
if you're talking about earthquake.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The seismograph is the device you use to figure out
where it measures on a Richterscale.
The Richter scale is like it'sin numbers, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Richter I hardly know her.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
God damn it.
Alright, so the problems withthis theory?
Alright.
Wardenclyffe Tower wasn'toperational in 1908.
Tesla struggled with fundingand the tower never reached the
correct power output requiredfor such things.
It just didn't happen.
(39:55):
There's no evidence of a beamweapon.
Tesla had very, you know,grander ideas, but his teleforce
machine, described in the 1930s, was never built.
Uh, and the physics oftransmitting that much energy
wirelessly through the air tosiberia is to this day not
possible with known science.
Um, the blast matches anasteroid airburst, far better
(40:18):
tree patterns, seismic waves,etc.
Eyewitness reports, all of thatfall much more into a probable
theory of an airburst from ameteor.
So, um, yeah, it's a cooltheory, definitely the best
theory, but very unlikely theory.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Unfortunately there's also, uh, there, I forget
exactly what it was um, therewas a quote that tes Tesla said
in like the 30s or somethinglike that, that they think was
like a reference to Tunguska.
It was something like oh yeah,I unleashed terrible power onto
a portion of the earth orsomething.
(40:57):
I forget exactly what it is,but people are like, oh, he's
alluding to the Tunguskaexperiment.
He did it and this is his wayof telling us.
I, I, I enjoyed that.
So what are we thinking here,boys?
(41:19):
Do you think it's asteroid orTesla?
In my Jason, I'm going to letyou go first.
Why not both?
What if he shot it?
And what if he shot the deathray?
And immediately, as he wasdoing that, the asteroid
exploded.
And he was like, what if wewere good time?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Nazi warlocks, led by Albert Einstein and Nikolai
Tesla, were trying to attract anew super weapon, which which
basically said hey, we're goingto throw asteroids at certain
points on Earth because we canattract them using occult
rituals and electromagnetism.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
The Nazis used Tesla's death ray to ring the
Nazi bell, which caused anasteroid to appear from another
dimension and hit Tunguska Boom.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I think it was the death ray, but hear me out, I
think that he was getting nofunding because the government
was like this shit's too good,we can't let this become a thing
.
And he was like fuck you, I gotit to work and then, as soon as
it did work, our government waslike shut it down.
(42:24):
We got to take whatever this isand we got to take it for
ourself.
Not that we're blowing anyoneup, but you know government shit
.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, we're going to wait a couple of years to blow
up people up.
We're going to couple.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
we're going to couple 30 or so do this on a little, a
smaller scale, if you will.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
What do you think, Matthew?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I think the technology they use in the
Philadelphia experiment toaccidentally teleport a ship was
used on the Tesla that Elonfired into space and then it
accidentally came back down in1908.
(43:04):
And as it was about to slaminto Russia, the battery
detonated and it created thishuge explosion.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
The Philadelphia experiment does have time travel
capabilities.
We established that, yeah, timetravel and teleportation.
It showed up in the past.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah yeah, the ship teleported to somewhere in like
the 60s or some fucking shit.
So who's to say that youcouldn't take a Tesla back to
1908?
Behold a shitty car.
There's your Tesla.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay, I would encourage the rest of you To do
the same.
I only refer to Teslas asswastikars.
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
That's not bad, it's not bad at all.
Hitmobile, shitmobile.
But, boys, we got reallypolitical on these last two
episodes.
We're hot, we're spicy.
I very much just found, foundthis topic interesting.
There's not really much to it,it's not really anything of
(44:01):
value, until you get to theTesla shit and you're like there
it is.
That's what this has beenmissing Is whack job conspiracy.
People Just can't be fuckinghappy.
There it is.
That's what this has beenmissing is whack job conspiracy.
People just can't be fuckinghappy with a fucking asteroid
hitting the Earth.
No, yeah, throw fucking Teslaor something into it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
The best thing about that is when Michael angrily
grabbed his microphone it kindof squealed.
So it was like listen here.
And another thing.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
People just can't be happy with one fucking thing.
No, you got to throw a fuckingconspiracy.
Not everything is a fuckingconspiracy theory.
Sometimes it's a rock.
What if it is?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Mike, leave it be.
What if it?
Speaker 5 (44:42):
is a conspiracy.
What if it is?
Leave it be.
That question alone is worthbillions of dollars every year.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Honestly, most of the time that Doug was talking, I
got distracted by Google Mapsand was just digging around in
random towns.
I saw that In the middle ofRussia because I Google mapping
like area areas, like sparselypopulated areas of the planet
that you don't know much aboutis so much fun like sparsely
populated areas of the planetthat you don't know much about
is so much fun.
But I found one one bagel likepastry restaurant in the middle
(45:14):
of fucking nowhere in the middleof russia.
It has 3.8 stars on google mapsand it is apparently the only
local restaurant within likeprobably hundreds of miles, and
the first review just says Ibought myself from shawarma and
got poisoned by it.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Well, that's not good .
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Where do you poop?
You have hundreds of miles.
You can't go anywhere.
You just shit in the river.
This right here.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I guess you just type in Tunguska into Google Maps.
There's just a blip that saysTunguska blast event.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, I was showing it on the stream.
If you try to google maps fromthat to literally anywhere else,
it'll give up.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
It'll be like nope government cover up very grassy,
very grassy the closest town Icould find to.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
It was like a 13 hour drive from the nearest drive
through that I could find holyshit, and it was an Arby's no, I
didn't have directions from myhouse it was an Arby's.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
No, I didn't have a directions from my house.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
It was an Arby's slash post office slash, it was
everything hospital.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
So apparently you can't drive there or walk or
bicycle.
That's even worse.
That's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Five out of five stars when they sent people up
there.
Five out of five stars.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
When they sent people up there.
Five out of five starsParaglide.
Well, gentlemen, all I got tosay is when, well gentlemen,
where are they?
What the fuck are they.
All I got to say is you know, Ithink this goes to show that
the area of Tunguska in yourheart, no matter where you are
(46:54):
in the world, is always just astone's throw away.
That's all I got to say, matt.
What do you have to say?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Don't buy shawarma from this place in the russia
jason.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
What do you have to say?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
uh, as always, uh, stay paranoid.
I do want to, um, I want tocorrect something, obviously.
Uh, I want to say thank you toslapping mothman's ass for
correcting me.
Rasputin died in 1916, not1960s, although we did have a
very funny conversation abouttaking him to Woodstock and the
(47:37):
drug cult that might come fromthat thereafter.
So, either way, good idea,bring Rasputin to Woodstock.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Also not to get too deep into Rasputin still, but
apparently there is audio of asong, that of him singing a song
.
I cannot find it for the loveof me, so if anyone can find,
that audio.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
I need to find that now.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
He sounds like he's like, he's like.
He's got such a weird deepvoice.
If anyone can find that audio.
Maybe.
Yeah, if anyone can find thataudio, throw it in the general
chat or, like the patreon chat,throw it somewhere so I can.
I can find it.
But or just comment something.
Get it to me somehow.
I need to hear it again.
I only heard it once.
I can never find it again.
(48:18):
Um doug, what do you have tosay?
Speaker 4 (48:21):
holy shit, uh, I don't know, I don't know, man,
uh, okay, slap if youputin'speen.
Well, okay, maybe actuallygreat, great segue.
If you take Rasputin's peen andyou slap it hard enough, you
might create a Tunguska event ofyour own the smell alone yeah
(48:48):
that's all I got.
I have nothing else.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I'm here for it.
Well, everybody may rock.
Christ be with you.
Hey, I found it.
Oh my god, I found it?
Speaker 5 (49:00):
found it?
Hey, I'll send it to you.
We'll post yes, bye everybodywe love you, bye everybody.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Bye, everybody Bye.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Don't look under the internet.
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