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From “Conjunction Junction” to “I’m Just a Bill,” let's explore how these catchy "Schoolhouse Rock!" tunes on Saturday mornings in the 1970s made learning fun, shaped a generation’s understanding of civics and grammar and left a lasting mark on pop culture. 

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Keith Loria (00:00):
Welcome to season three of Don't Touch That Dial,
a Classic TV podcast.
So join us as we remember theshows that made watching TV in
the days of antennas so muchfun.

Anthony Stoeckert (00:09):
Grab your remote and get ready for some
fun and laughs.

Keith Loria (00:13):
And remember, Don't Touch That Dial.

Anthony Stoeckert (00:16):
Welcome to a very educational episode of
Don't Touch That Dial, a classicTV podcast.
This week we are all going toget smarter as we remember
Schoolhouse Rock.
I'm Anthony Stecker.

Jody Schwartz (00:31):
I'm Jody Schwartz, and I feel smarter
already.
And I am Keith Lolly.

Anthony Stoeckert (00:36):
Alright, I'm just gonna give some very brief
background.
Schoolhouse Rock was a seriesof educational videos for people
who don't know.
They were shown during thosewonderful Saturday mornings in
the 70s on ABC when we were.

Jody Schwartz (00:50):
There were cartoons in between the
cartoons.
That's how great it was.

Anthony Stoeckert (00:55):
It originally aired from 1973 to 1985.
It came back from 93 to 96.
There was like adirect-to-video release of some
new videos, I believe, in 2009.
The first one premiered January6th, 1973.
Do people know what the firstvideo was?

Keith Loria (01:16):
Three is a magic number.

Anthony Stoeckert (01:17):
You got it.
Ding ding ding.
And for that, Keith, you get togo first.
What do you want to say aboutthis?

Keith Loria (01:22):
I didn't read that.
I know it because I went to seethe composer, Bob.
I don't know how to pronouncehis name, Darrow.

Anthony Stoeckert (01:28):
Duro, yeah.
Yeah, he did a lot of them.

Keith Loria (01:30):
Him and George Noole, who was one of the
producers, were at the KennedyCenter in 2013 for a free
concert.
Man, there were thousands ofpeople.
There were so many peoplethere.
They did it in this, like theydo something called the
Millennial Hall, where they dofree concerts every day.

Jody Schwartz (01:44):
I remember reading an article about that,
that they were stunned by theamount of people who showed up.

Keith Loria (01:48):
Most people that have ever showed up, and people
were like crunched in, standingall throughout.
It was amazing.
And he just sang all thesesongs.

Jody Schwartz (01:56):
They actually said they didn't even realize
what an impact it had untiluntil that, until that show.
And it when everybody justpacked uh I think Entertainment
Weekly had an article on it, butyeah, so it was billed as a
schoolhouse rock concert becausehe did a lot of music.

Keith Loria (02:10):
He was a very accomplished oh no, no, this was
schoolhouse rock.

Anthony Stoeckert (02:13):
It was a schoolhouse rock thing.
Okay, right.

Keith Loria (02:15):
Oh man, it was so good, you know.
Just like kind of send, youknow, you're sitting with all
these people just singing alongto these songs that you knew.

Anthony Stoeckert (02:23):
I think one of the keys to it is that they
hired very accomplishedmusicians.
Jack Sheldon.
He was a well-known jazz.
Well, I mean, not well known tome, but he was a well-known
jazz guy.
Like he played with MilesDavis, the woman who did
conjunction junk.
No, no, no, he did that.
I'm sorry.

Jody Schwartz (02:39):
Well, Jack Sheldon did conjunction
junction.

Anthony Stoeckert (02:41):
Yeah, the woman who did um like a noun is
a person, place her thing andinterplanet Janet.
She won a she won a Twitter.
Lynn Arens.

Jody Schwartz (02:48):
Lynn Lynn Arens?

Anthony Stoeckert (02:49):
Lynn Arens, yeah.
She won a Tony for ragtime.
So these were very accomplishedpeople.

Keith Loria (02:53):
Wasn't Lynn Arens on House Calls?

Jody Schwartz (02:55):
That was Lynn Redgrave.

Keith Loria (02:56):
No, no, a trapper Johnny.
I I don't know.
For some reason, I have amemory of her being on the show.

Anthony Stoeckert (03:00):
I have her as I only I looked her up only as
a uh composer.
So all right.
So who wants to Keith?
Why don't you talk about whatare your earliest memories of
schoolhouse rock, which ones youliked, yada yada yada?

Keith Loria (03:11):
I don't know earliest memories, but one you
know, very vivid memory I haveis you know, during I I may have
even been high school.
I was gonna say junior high,but it could have been high
school, just you know, taking atest, not like the SATs, but
like one of those standardizedtests that they did every year.
And I, you know, you could kindof hear people like kind of
humming the tunes because that'show they would know what an

(03:31):
adverb, like well, get driving.
Okay, adverb.
Uh yeah, yeah.
And I really have the preambleto the constitution.

Anthony Stoeckert (03:39):
Everybody knows it because of that.

Keith Loria (03:41):
Right, right.
But I really, I mean, you I usethose songs to help me on
tests, and you know, that's howI knew what these things were.

Anthony Stoeckert (03:47):
I should have done that.

Keith Loria (03:48):
Probably when I got out of college.
Uh, I was an English majorwithout having known these
things, but yes, just love them.
I love the grammar ones morethan I wasn't into the history
ones that much.

Anthony Stoeckert (03:59):
Oh, I like the history.

Keith Loria (04:00):
I don't know about you guys.
Like, yeah, you know,conjunction junction.
I really love that.
It was one of my favorites.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:05):
Didn't you really like Interplanet Janet?

Keith Loria (04:07):
Interplanet Janet.
Well, that was personal, youknow.
I had a thing for her.
Um I did used to have I used tohave the Interplanet Janet
little figure on my um in myoffice on my desk.
I think they were in the ToxasSerial at some point.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:21):
Wow.

Keith Loria (04:22):
In the years we were working together, and
that's how I got that.
But my my all-time favorite wasGravity.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:28):
I'm not sure I know that.

Keith Loria (04:29):
It was like in the 50s, like I'm the victim of
down, down, down, down, down,yeah.
It was like a 1950s group.
Yeah, they did a do-wop thingto it.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:40):
Yeah I remember, I remember Newton
under the tree now.

Keith Loria (04:42):
Yeah, so that's why that was that was my all-time
favorite one.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:45):
Which do you think is the most famous one out
of all of them?

Keith Loria (04:49):
Conjunction, junction.

Anthony Stoeckert (04:50):
Really?
That was not my guess, Keith.
What do you think is the mostfamous one?
I think it's clear.

Keith Loria (04:56):
Do you really?
Yeah, and and not three is amagic number.
No, I would almost go three isa magic number.

Jody Schwartz (05:01):
I want to see what you what you what you think
is clear.

Keith Loria (05:02):
Oh, you probably think the constitution one.

Anthony Stoeckert (05:04):
I'm just a bill.
Yeah, because they parried itso much.
I think if you went around andyou asked a hundred people, name
a schoolhouse rock, I think youwould get I'm just a bill more
than I'll I'll take that bet.

Jody Schwartz (05:15):
I'll bet you it would be conjunction junction.
Oh we're we're doing this nextweek.
I think I'm gonna go withdriving around next week and
asking people, yeah.

Keith Loria (05:23):
No, because they did it on the Simpsons, right?
Or family guide.
Right, but the bill one, Ithink even Senator Live maybe
did uh just the bill one.

Jody Schwartz (05:34):
So for that reason Simpsons one is
hysterical and it was done likein the 90s and it works now.
Yeah, that it would be it wouldbe funny now.
The Simpsons.

Anthony Stoeckert (05:43):
Yeah, I think like there's even like like
even like political cartoonswill have the bill like all
beaten up because you're right,you're right.
Congress did something, or evenI listened to Chuck Todd's
podcast, and he said something aweek, he said something a
couple of weeks ago aboutgetting a loss.
He goes, you know, we've allseen just a bill.
And like he doesn't evencontextualize it.
He just says, you know, we'veall seen I'm just a bill.
So I'm pretty good.
You think it's conjunctionjunction?

Jody Schwartz (06:04):
I think if you went up to somebody uh in our
age bracket and just said tothem conjunction junction, they
would come right back withwhat's your function.

Keith Loria (06:11):
Well, yeah, I but I think you could do that with a
lot of them.
But if you just ask you, Ithink that one more than any of
them.
I'm still I'm I think three isa magic number.
I think everybody knows thatone.
I just felt like in collegethat was the one like because
you I do remember having talksabout schoolhouse rock with my
college roommates.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (06:27):
Well, I don't know how many followers we
have, but let's have before thisepisode posts, let's have our
social media person text name aschoolhouse rock.
But yeah, just have her say,name a schoolhouse rock video
and see what we got.

Jody Schwartz (06:44):
The first one that comes to mind.
Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (06:46):
Okay, all right, and we'll we'll see what
happens.

Jody Schwartz (06:48):
We'll announce the results.

Anthony Stoeckert (06:49):
Maybe it'll be five.
We will I love the five oneinterjection.

Keith Loria (06:53):
Interjection.

Anthony Stoeckert (06:54):
Interjection could be.
I think interjection would behigher up than conjunction
junction.

Jody Schwartz (06:59):
I disagree.
Um, but interjections is great.
Another Lynn Aaron sang one.
Jack Sheldon sang conjunctionjunction, and he did the
pronouns one with everyone'sname, Ruf and Allen Sasparella.

Keith Loria (07:10):
But like you said earlier, I mean, every person
knew the constitution because ofthe preamble.
So the people might say thatone.

Anthony Stoeckert (07:15):
Is the constitution one no more?
What's no more kings?
Is that the constitution?
No, no more.

Jody Schwartz (07:20):
That's a separate one.
No more kings is it starts withthe pilgrims.

Anthony Stoeckert (07:24):
And then uh, you know, rockin' in the
rolling, rockin' in the rollins,and then splash and over the
horizon.

Keith Loria (07:29):
And that's sung by both of them, Bob Enlin.

Anthony Stoeckert (07:31):
Oh wow, they got them both.

Jody Schwartz (07:32):
Yeah, there aren't that many like that.
The Simpsons parody on I'm Onlya Bill was actually sang by
Jack Sheldon, who sang theoriginal I'm only a bill for the
schoolhouse rock, and his wasan amendment to be.

Anthony Stoeckert (07:44):
The Saturday Night Live one, it was the I'm
just it was when Obama waspresident and it was just on and
it was I'm just a bill, andthen they did one for executive
actions, and it's like, yeah, hejust signs it.
That's it.
Like, you know, for Bill, theywent through the whole process
and he's like, I'm an executiveaction.
Boom, get out of here.

Jody Schwartz (08:01):
There's there's a part in the Simpsons one where
they're like, because he wantsthe the the whole thing is they
want to ban flag burning.
And he says, Well, what if wewhat if we just and the the kid
doing the voice sounds like thekid from the original I'm only a
bill?
He goes, What if we just make alaw outlawing flag burning?
He goes, Because that law wouldbe unconstitutional.
But if we change theconstitution, it goes, we can

(08:23):
make all sorts of crazy laws.
He goes, now you're catchingon.

Anthony Stoeckert (08:26):
I'm just the bill does a pretty solid job of
explaining the process.

Jody Schwartz (08:31):
Yes, complicated process at that one.

Anthony Stoeckert (08:34):
Yeah, and with the um no more kings, I had
a friend who would just go,it's gonna be a president.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He would just say that like outof nowhere.

Jody Schwartz (08:44):
We're gonna elect the president is the line.

Anthony Stoeckert (08:46):
And that's what it is.

Jody Schwartz (08:46):
We're gonna elect the president, we're gonna
elect the president.

Anthony Stoeckert (08:48):
Yeah, he would just say that.
I guess that's no, we're gonnaelect the president.
We're gonna elect thepresident, yeah.

Jody Schwartz (08:53):
And then someone else would say, No one tells us
what to do.

Anthony Stoeckert (08:56):
Now, what about the port that there was a
Boston Tea Party one too?
Is that the same one?

Keith Loria (09:01):
No, that's a shot heard around the world, isn't
it?
That's a shot.
No, oh god, I'm getting a mixup.

Anthony Stoeckert (09:05):
Because I remember like they dump the tea
in, and then like they like theypan out and like they made it
look like a that's the one too.

Jody Schwartz (09:11):
You know, you know, we're gonna show you how
it feels, we're gonna dump thistea.

Anthony Stoeckert (09:15):
It's the same song, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I but am I right?
They they pan out and it lookslike a big, big giant cup.

Jody Schwartz (09:21):
It looks like a big tea cup, yeah, floating
floating in Boston Harbor.

Anthony Stoeckert (09:24):
Yeah, I love that as a kid.

Jody Schwartz (09:25):
And there's one there now.
Yeah.

Keith Loria (09:27):
Yeah.
So I was much more interestedin the grammar rock ones.

Jody Schwartz (09:30):
Me too.
The grammar ones were myfavorite, and you know,
conjunction junction's myfavorite.
I love the pronoun one.
And there's an underrated onethat I'm gonna talk about, the
tale of Mr.
Morton, which is about subjectand predicate.

Keith Loria (09:41):
Oh, yeah, that's a great one.
What's the pronoun one?

Jody Schwartz (09:44):
Is that pronouns can make to take a place of
another?

Keith Loria (09:47):
Oh, that's the Rufus one, right?

Jody Schwartz (09:48):
Yeah, the Rufus out.
Yeah.

Keith Loria (09:50):
What's what's I I can never remember that name.

Jody Schwartz (09:52):
Yeah, those the long names.
And he goes, I can just sayhim, her, them, you know.

Keith Loria (09:57):
Oh, Rufus Xavier Sasparella.

Jody Schwartz (10:00):
Sasparella.
And he had Gabrielle GabrielleSasparella.
All right.
These long names.
He goes, but I don't have tosay that because I got pronouns.

Anthony Stoeckert (10:08):
Now I want Sasparella.

Keith Loria (10:10):
You know, we haven't mentioned Esra Mohawk,
who also did a bunch of these.

Anthony Stoeckert (10:14):
Which ones did they do?

Keith Loria (10:15):
Interjections, uh, suffering and suffrage.
Wow, that was a woman's rightsmovement once.
Yeah, that seems to be it.

Anthony Stoeckert (10:22):
But what did we mention David Frischburg?

Keith Loria (10:25):
No.
What did he do?

Anthony Stoeckert (10:26):
He did I'm did he do I'm just a bill?
Yeah, he I think he did I'mjust a bill and lolly lolly and
conjunction conjunctionjunction.

Jody Schwartz (10:34):
David, yeah, you're right.
David Frishburn.
Well, Jack Sheldon sang sangit.
Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (10:39):
David Frischburg wrote them.

Jody Schwartz (10:41):
Yes, he wrote them.
Yeah, he wrote it.
He wrote on the thing.

Anthony Stoeckert (10:45):
You're talking about these musicians.
He worked with Bette Mittler,Mel Tormey, Rosemary Clooney.
You know, they they got realreal talented people to do
these.

Keith Loria (10:53):
Yeah, there was someone named Blossom Deary, who
I don't know who who sang thefigure eight one.
Do you remember that one?
They really smelled it.

Jody Schwartz (11:02):
Figure four is half of eight.

Anthony Stoeckert (11:04):
That one's sad.

Jody Schwartz (11:04):
Yeah, that is.
Yes, she sounds like she'sgoing through a rough time when
she's when she's talking aboutshe was a jazz singer, famous
jazz singer.
Yeah, they're always upset.

Anthony Stoeckert (11:19):
Yeah, and then what Lolly Lolly and has
going by, and it would he woulddrop the LYs on everything,
right?

Keith Loria (11:26):
Yeah, and they had like the son saying, Hey, dad.

Jody Schwartz (11:31):
Suppose you're going nut gathering, your buddy
wants to know when and where.

Anthony Stoeckert (11:34):
Oh, that's right.
He owned a store.
Yeah, he owned Lolly.

Jody Schwartz (11:39):
It was a grandfather, a father, and a
son.
They sold it.

Anthony Stoeckert (11:42):
You can get you can get adverbs.
I can get adverbs for free.
I don't need to pay you forthem, pal.

Jody Schwartz (11:47):
Yeah, and then they you know, they got Lolly
Sr.
here.
Talk about this.
Suppose you want to paint yourhouse, you can do it neatly or
rather sluppily.
I don't remember with our handyL Y attachments.

Keith Loria (12:00):
I don't remember this busy prepositions one.
How did that one go?

Anthony Stoeckert (12:03):
I don't remember that either.

Jody Schwartz (12:04):
The tailor Mr.
Morton, as I was saying before,very underrated, and it talks
about subject and predicate.
Yeah, and I gotta tell you, Istill hum it sometimes when I'm
editing copy and thinking in myhead, subject and predicate.

Anthony Stoeckert (12:15):
I don't remember.

Jody Schwartz (12:16):
Mr.
Morton is the subject of thesentence, and what the predicate
says, he does.
There you go.

Anthony Stoeckert (12:21):
I don't know that one.

Keith Loria (12:22):
I'm looking at busy prepositions when I've never
seen it before.
I think they it was a newerone, but for some reason.

Anthony Stoeckert (12:28):
They made some ones later on.

Keith Loria (12:30):
Yes, it was 1993.
But this one also came out.
Tell Mr.
Morton was also 93.

Jody Schwartz (12:35):
The one of Tale of Mr.
Morton, I know it because I gotthe DVD um when my kids were
little, and I wanted to show youknow my sons the uh schoolhouse
rock, and and they they lovedit.
And the Mr.
Morton one I didn't rememberbecause it came out in the 90s,
but I it stuck with me.

Keith Loria (12:51):
I'm looking on my shirt, and he's not on my shirt.
I'm wearing the schoolhouserock shirt for you viewers who
aren't watching along with thevideo.
He doesn't he doesn't look athis shirt normally to get
answers.
Like I have I haveInterjection, I have Interplanet
Janet, Mr.
Bill.

Anthony Stoeckert (13:06):
Well, they probably have the classic era
ones.

Keith Loria (13:09):
Yeah, you do, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (13:11):
So uh they brought it back actually, also
when they brought it back in the90s.
They did like a series of moneyrock, also.

Keith Loria (13:17):
Oh, yeah.
I don't think I've watched it.

Anthony Stoeckert (13:19):
Things like how to um, you know, I think
like how to balance a checkscheckbook, how to pay your
taxes, you know, all that kindof stuff.
How to pay your taxes somehowwas not as popular as history
and you know, that kind ofstuff.

Jody Schwartz (13:33):
I think they overshot on that one, huh?

Anthony Stoeckert (13:35):
Hey, listen, if in the 90s you're asked come
come up with some newschoolhouse rock, that's a tough
assignment.

Keith Loria (13:41):
Imagine doing it now.
So let's go through each of thethe different ones and talk
about our favorite ones.
Like, do you withmultiplication rock?
What are the ones that that youremember most or you like most?

Anthony Stoeckert (13:52):
I think I'm in the minority on this.
I always love the five onefive, ten, fifteen, twenty,
twenty-five, thirty,thirty-five, forty, forty-five,
fifty, fifty-five, sixty,seventy-five, eighty,
eighty-five, ninety, nine-five,one hundred.

Keith Loria (14:03):
Very impressive.
Very impressive, I think.

Anthony Stoeckert (14:06):
And I've been terrible at math my whole life.
I know the fives like nothing.
There you go.
And that they were playing hideand seek, right?
I think, yeah, yeah.
And he and that was his countoff for hide and seek.
And I my hunch is that's notone of the most popular ones.

Jody Schwartz (14:23):
I don't think it is, but but I do remember it
very well, but it's definitelynot one of the more popular
ones.
That was one of my and what weneed to talk about when we talk
about schoolhouse rock is simplythe fact that again, it was
before everyone had a VCR, itwas before you know streaming or
recording or anything likethat.
Whatever one was on was the oneyou watched, and you got
excited when the one you likedcame on.
Yes, yes, yes.

Keith Loria (14:44):
And you never knew, you never knew.

Jody Schwartz (14:45):
You never knew, you never even knew when they
were coming on.
It was right, it was on, itwould it would be on in between
whatever cartoon you werewatching, but when it came on,
you didn't know which one wasgonna be, you didn't exactly
know when it was gonna be on.
And they used to announce itwith that little with the kids
walking into the schoolhouse,yes, yeah, yeah.
And and like, oh my god, yeah,school house rock is you know,
you gotta get it.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:05):
There was like a very brief intermission,
like school, house rock.

Jody Schwartz (15:08):
And then you see the kids walking into the into
the into the schoolhouse, andthen if it was something you
liked, you got very, very happyabout it.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:14):
But to your point, no VCRs or anything, but
yet we remember these lyrics 50years later.
So, how many times did we seethem?

Jody Schwartz (15:22):
But think about it.
They premiered in the early70s.
That's when we were starting towatch Saturday morning
cartoons.
All of us watched them everySaturday non-stop for a number
of years.
So, so you hear you heard youhear about it, and you know,
it's like it's like when Botsylearned uh pump your blood,
right?
Right, yes.
That's how I learned it.
Yeah, you learn things by song,you know.
You know, my favorite numbersone was the four-legged zoo.

(15:43):
I went to the four-legged zoo.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:45):
Do you know that I don't know that one?
Do you know that one, Keith?

Jody Schwartz (15:47):
Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Jody Schwartz (15:49):
It was a school field trip to to the zoo, and
it's about multiplying by four.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:53):
That's why I can't multiply by four.

Jody Schwartz (15:55):
Yep, that's what they tell me.

Anthony Stoeckert (15:57):
What about you, Keith, for multiplication?

Keith Loria (15:58):
I'm sticking with three is a magic number.
I think that I really enjoythat one.
That's a good one.

Anthony Stoeckert (16:03):
That's great.

Keith Loria (16:04):
But I like I outside of that one, I did like
My Hero Zero too.

Anthony Stoeckert (16:08):
I remember that one.
I don't remember these thatwell.

Jody Schwartz (16:11):
It was a little kid in a cape.
Yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (16:14):
That sounds vaguely familiar.
Three is a magic number, Iremember.
Ready or not?
Ah boy, that I got six.
Lucky seven Samson?
These don't seem familiar tome.
I need to watch these.
You should.
They're fun.
The good eleven.

Jody Schwartz (16:28):
And you know what's funny?
All of the multiplication rockswere all from the 70s.
They didn't do any updated onesfor those in the 90s.

Anthony Stoeckert (16:35):
But like you guys know the good 11 and little
12 toes?

Jody Schwartz (16:39):
There were some of them that you didn't like as
much, so you didn't really watchthem as much.
I know they were never.
They definitely showed somemore than others for sure.

Anthony Stoeckert (16:48):
They were probably ones that were popular,
and that's why some of them weknow the lyrics too.

Keith Loria (16:52):
But just think if they had done a schoolhouse rock
for the number 13 or 14, wewould all know our 13 and 14
tables today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
And we don't, so it's it'sreally ABC that kind of uh has I
blame schoolhouse rock'slaziness on me not being good at
that.
Yeah, in China they went up to99.

Anthony Stoeckert (17:09):
They sure did.
Why was nine?
Why was it called naughtynumber nine?
What was number nine doing?

Jody Schwartz (17:15):
That was the after dark uh schoolhouse rock.

Anthony Stoeckert (17:19):
The trick I know for multiplying nines is
that the answers, the two digitsadd up to nine, right?
Yeah, like nine times.
72, 63, yeah, and eight and oneadd up to nine.
I don't know if I learned thatfrom schoolhouse rock or not.

Keith Loria (17:33):
I don't think so.
I don't think that was aschoolhouse rock thing.

Anthony Stoeckert (17:36):
And I don't know what makes nine naughty.
All right, so what category doyou want to do next, Keith?

Keith Loria (17:39):
I guess next we would go to grammar rock.
Now, this is hard becausethey're all great.
These are these are all thebest ones.
I think Anthony, you said isinterjection your favorite, or
that's just I think I would sayinterjections.

Anthony Stoeckert (17:51):
I love the guy at the sporting event who
goes, hooray, I'm rooting forthe other team, and everyone
just looks at him.
I love that.

Jody Schwartz (18:01):
Yes, if that happened now, everybody would
attack him.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:04):
Oh, yeah.

Jody Schwartz (18:06):
Can you imagine if the if the Eagles throw an
interception?
And the guy says, and some guysays, Hey, I'm rooting for the
other team.
Imagine Jalen Hurts throws aninterception.

Keith Loria (18:20):
What I learned from interjection was the part where
you put a comma if thefeeling's not as strong.

Jody Schwartz (18:24):
Yes.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:25):
Oh, that's right.

Jody Schwartz (18:26):
I an explanation point or by comma if the
feelings aren't as strong.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:30):
Yeah, I think interjections would clearly be
my favorite.

Keith Loria (18:33):
I don't know if I have a clearly one.
I really like Lolly.
But I also like the noun.
Noun is a person placed.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:38):
Noun is a person who places.

Keith Loria (18:40):
But I think we all knew that.
Like that may have been the onethat we knew before Squells
Rock.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:45):
Well, yeah, but I don't know if I was going
for educational value.
I just think it was the songand the cartoon, whatever.

Jody Schwartz (18:52):
Uh I like the verb one.

Keith Loria (18:55):
Verb.

Jody Schwartz (18:55):
That's what's happening.

Anthony Stoeckert (18:56):
Oh, that's right.

Jody Schwartz (18:57):
That's what's happening.
That was a cool one.

Anthony Stoeckert (19:00):
And you know what?
I will say, I think conjunctionjunction's a better song than
interjections.
But when you combine thecartoon and the story, you know,
of these things overall, I justlike the inter the
interjections uh, you know,short video more than overall

(19:21):
than conjunction junction.
Yeah, song-wise, conjunctionjunction's better.

Jody Schwartz (19:24):
Also, it's you know, like like the verb one,
the the the scenes are reallygreat with the superhero in the
you know, you know, and he'sgoing to see the movie with the
superhero in it, then he'splaying baseball.

Anthony Stoeckert (19:35):
And what's going on with the noun?
Like, what can the what can youdo with a noun?
Like, there's a person, place athing.
What more can you do?
What was going on in thatvideo?
That's a good one.
Nobody remembers.

Jody Schwartz (19:46):
No, oh, the girl, she's going places, and at one
point she she put a dime in thedrugstore record machine,
Beatles and the Monkeys.
She actually mentions theBeatles and the Monkeys.

Anthony Stoeckert (19:55):
Oh wow, wow, that's cool.

Jody Schwartz (19:57):
Yeah, and then they say, you know, it could be
a thing like a uh like like alike a record machine or uh
people like the Beatles and theMonkey.

Anthony Stoeckert (20:04):
I don't remember busy prepositions.

Jody Schwartz (20:06):
I don't remember that one either.
That's I don't either.
I don't either.
You know what?
That was a nightmare.
Yeah, that was a night, thatone came out.
Actually, two of them came outon September 11th, 1993.
And Mr.
Morton was one of them, the oneI mentioned before.

Anthony Stoeckert (20:18):
And I'm gonna say the science ones, I don't
know those very well.
Let me see.
I'm looking at the body.

Jody Schwartz (20:23):
Well, let's let's let's let's go in order.
We'll we'll uh we'll get toAmerica Rock next.

Anthony Stoeckert (20:27):
Did everybody did everybody give a favorite
grammar rock?

Jody Schwartz (20:29):
I haven't yet.
My favorite one is probably theverb one, although conjunction
junction is amazing.
It's hard to pick with thisone, so but I'm gonna I'll go
with with the uh verb one justbecause you know so let's go
with America Rock.

Keith Loria (20:42):
Now, the these are the ones that I don't know as
well.
A lot of these I'm not thatvery familiar with.

Anthony Stoeckert (20:47):
Elbow Room, Elbow Room, I remembered now.

Jody Schwartz (20:51):
Yeah, elbow elbow room talks about the Louisiana
Purchase, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (20:55):
Fireworks Manifest Destiny is that elbow
room?

Jody Schwartz (20:58):
It's the evolution, it's so it's
expansion of the United States,like the president with Thomas
Jefferson, and you had them all.
He made a deal with Napoleon,yes, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (21:08):
And they they like everybody was lined up and
they could move their elbowsbecause now they had elbow room
because they well, no more, nomore kings.
I know.
I don't know what fireworks is.

Jody Schwartz (21:17):
I don't either.

Anthony Stoeckert (21:17):
The shotgun round the world, I know that the
start of the revolution, thepreamble.
I know, elbow room.
I know great American meltingpot.
That seems a little familiar.

Jody Schwartz (21:27):
That talks about immigrant again, something that
would be you know talked aboutnow.
Immigration.

Anthony Stoeckert (21:32):
Yeah, mother necessity.

Keith Loria (21:33):
I that definitely sounds familiar, but mother
necessity where would we bewithout the inventions of
electricity?
I feel like Mother Necessitywas kind of like the beginning
of others, wasn't it?
Like a couple of them.

Anthony Stoeckert (21:48):
Oh, I don't know.
Like they had a series ofMothers Necessities.

Jody Schwartz (21:53):
Nah, that was one song.
It was it was one song, okay?

Keith Loria (21:55):
And then there was there's a lot packed in.

Jody Schwartz (21:57):
That's just the thing with all these songs.
There's a lot packed in them,so it seems like there might be
more than one, but it was reallymostly just all one.

Keith Loria (22:05):
Yeah, for some reason, I didn't know these
were.
I must have been watchingdifferent channel cartoons back
in 76.

Jody Schwartz (22:11):
I remember, you know, like you know, No More
Kings shot heard around theworld.
Suffering until suffrage wasreally I'm just the bell.

Anthony Stoeckert (22:17):
And I three ring government, that doesn't
ring a bell.

Jody Schwartz (22:20):
I would say Suffering Until Suffrage.
That is how I knew that thewomen got the right to vote in
1920.

Anthony Stoeckert (22:26):
I would say my favorite of these is No More
Kings.
That's rocking that's rockingin a rolling split.

Jody Schwartz (22:31):
Rockin' and a rolling split.
Yeah, we're gonna elect thepresident.

Anthony Stoeckert (22:34):
We're gonna elect the president.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Keith Loria (22:36):
I mean, I mean, I'm just a bill is my favorite.

Anthony Stoeckert (22:38):
I'm just a bill is great.

Jody Schwartz (22:40):
Yeah, but I I would say I'm just the bill is
my favorite of these.
That definitely.

Keith Loria (22:44):
I would think uh they probably showed I'm just
the bill probably like 10 timesmore than any of these others.

Jody Schwartz (22:49):
Yeah, without question.

Keith Loria (22:50):
I'm looking at them now.
I probably have only seen likehalf of these.
Well, I'm sure I've seen themall, but I only remember half of
them.

Anthony Stoeckert (22:57):
I agree, yeah.
I'm gonna watch these because Ihave the DVD too.
So I'm I'm gonna watch theseand see maybe maybe some of them
will come back to me.
Guess what?

Jody Schwartz (23:04):
Bill they signed you, and now you're already.
No, but this is so much better.
We're going by our memories.
It's this is that's true.
That's what we wanted to do.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, this you know, it's aconversation now, it's not a
not a research process.

Keith Loria (23:18):
So in 1978, the ABC cartoons must have been good
again because I know all thesescience rock ones.
Um gravity, as I alreadymentioned, I think is my
favorite, but I I really didlike Interplanet Janet.

Jody Schwartz (23:30):
Um and I like Planet Janet, she's a galaxy
girl, and I like the electricityone.

Keith Loria (23:34):
Electricity, electricity.

Jody Schwartz (23:36):
Electricity.

Anthony Stoeckert (23:38):
I don't know these well.
What's them not so dry bones?

Jody Schwartz (23:42):
Talks about your skeletal system, it's amazing.

Anthony Stoeckert (23:44):
That does seem a little familiar.
I guess I'd have to go withInterplanet Janet, but I these
really ones I have anyremembrance of are Interplanet
Janet and Electricity.
Electricity.
The others, these really do notseem familiar to me.

Keith Loria (23:58):
You don't remember the electricity, or you said you
did.
I'm sorry.

Anthony Stoeckert (24:00):
I do vaguely, but what about the nervous
system?

Keith Loria (24:03):
Yeah, there's a telegraph line.
You got yours, and I got mine.
It's called a nervous system.
They had different singers.
I don't know who sang that, butyeah, didn't have their usual.
Oh, yeah, Jamie F and ChristineLagner.
Wow.
And I don't believe they didany others.

Jody Schwartz (24:23):
Interplanet Janet actually also had like like the
artwork was a little differentfor it and a little like more
elaborate, you know, as Irecall.
It was a little more colorfulthan than the other ones, you
know, with the solar system.
And by the way, again, what Ilearned from that one, which I
needed to know once on a test,was uh that the sun was made up
of hydrogen and helium, which Idid not know until I saw that.

Anthony Stoeckert (24:44):
I don't I don't think I knew that speech
said she's been to the sun, it'sa lot of fun.

Jody Schwartz (24:51):
It's a lot of fun.

Anthony Stoeckert (24:52):
Do we want to choose our favorite money rock
from the nineties?

Keith Loria (24:55):
Or computer rock from the 80s, and I don't know
any of these.
I don't think I ever saw it.

Anthony Stoeckert (25:00):
My listener doesn't have computer rock.

Jody Schwartz (25:02):
I I think we should be rejecting these.

Keith Loria (25:04):
Yeah.
They weren't done by well, Iguess Shelly.

Anthony Stoeckert (25:07):
Oh, look, I've got the I've got the
booklet from the um DVD.
It's got all the lyrics.

Keith Loria (25:12):
Oh, really?

Anthony Stoeckert (25:13):
Not all of them, but a lot of them.
They they don't have um themoney rock ones.
And they have an all-new onefor the DVD.
I'm gonna send your vote tocollege with Boothie.

Jody Schwartz (25:25):
Well, here's here's something good from uh
from '96.
Uh Tyrannosaurus Death.

Anthony Stoeckert (25:30):
Yeah, I saw that one.
Yeah, yeah.
That's funny.

Jody Schwartz (25:33):
That's clever.

Anthony Stoeckert (25:34):
Uh Tax Man Max walking on Wall Street, the
checks in the mail.
That that you know what?
That's my favorite one.

Jody Schwartz (25:42):
Didn't Weird Aldo with do a s do a song called
Checks in the Mail?

Anthony Stoeckert (25:46):
I've never seen Money Rock, but Checks in
the Mail is my favorite one.
Because I can relate to that.

Jody Schwartz (25:53):
And now nobody pays my check anymore.

Anthony Stoeckert (25:55):
So it's and the last page of the booklet has
the little girl saying, Darn,that's the end.
Yes.

Jody Schwartz (26:02):
Of his rejection.

Anthony Stoeckert (26:03):
Well, no, on the on the uh DVD.

Jody Schwartz (26:05):
Oh, on the DBD bo, yeah, yeah.

Anthony Stoeckert (26:06):
Yeah, that's the back page of it, you guys
uh.
So what do we know whatcartoons we were watching?
I don't even know what cartoonsI was watching when I saw
these.
But I yeah, I don't rememberlike these I remember.

Keith Loria (26:18):
Or the Laugh Olympics.

Jody Schwartz (26:19):
The Laugh Olympics was was on ABC.
Speed buggy was probably a lotof there was there was
definitely at least one or twoyears where all the good ones
were on Bogie, Scooby-Doo.
Yeah, those that there wasdefinitely the Blue Falcon.
There was definitely a coupleof years where ABC had all the
best ones.

Anthony Stoeckert (26:35):
And then well, who was that other guy you
mentioned, Jody?
He was like I don't know.

Jody Schwartz (26:39):
Oh, Super Friends was definitely ABC as well.
Oh, yeah, all the superheroones were were that as well.

Anthony Stoeckert (26:45):
But I don't remember episodes of those, but
I remember some of these.
Yeah, well, that's you know Iguess because they were songs,
it was songs, yeah.
Yeah, you're able to rememberlyrics and stuff like that.

Keith Loria (26:56):
Fonzy and the happy days gang was ABC.
Yeah, of course it was.

Anthony Stoeckert (27:00):
I don't know if I watched it.
Laverne and Shirley in theArmy.

Jody Schwartz (27:03):
Come on, you didn't watch Fonse in the Happy
Days Gang?
I don't think I just listeningto Wolfman Jack do the opening
credits was was was enough.
I think I tried and didn'ttrying to get back to 1950s
Milwaukee.

Anthony Stoeckert (27:14):
Yeah, I I I think I just wanted to see them
hanging out in Milwaukee.
I didn't want to see them inspace.

Keith Loria (27:19):
Oh, you did.
You just didn't know it.

Jody Schwartz (27:21):
Yeah, you you just didn't know it.
True, you wanted to see them inspace.
What was great about all theshows where they were in space
was that every planet, not justthem, but also Josina Pussycats
in Outer Space and other showsthat went Gilligan's planet, you
know, all the all the showsthat went in outer space,
wherever they went, they hadair.
They never needed spacehelmets.
Oxygen was fine.

(27:41):
Yeah, the the atmosphere ofwhatever planet they went to had
the same kind of air we did.

Anthony Stoeckert (27:46):
The partridge family didn't go in space, they
were in the future.

Jody Schwartz (27:49):
They were in the future.

Anthony Stoeckert (27:49):
Yeah, were they in the Jetsons world
basically?

Jody Schwartz (27:52):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Keith Loria (27:53):
It was it was it was the Jetsons with the
Partridge family, and they usethe same cells, like so it's the
same ships and the samebuildings, and yeah, yeah.

Jody Schwartz (28:03):
There's an episode where Danny is playing
Little League and they'recalling it Spaceball.

Anthony Stoeckert (28:10):
I watched a little, we did an episode of on
cartoons, and I watched a littlebit of a happy Fonz and the
Happy Days gang.
And the only line I remember isFonzi going, This space chick
is cute, but she don't listen.

Jody Schwartz (28:24):
That may have been in the actual show.

Anthony Stoeckert (28:26):
It was.
Oh, and in the actual happy dayshow?

Jody Schwartz (28:29):
Yeah, that may have been the actual happy day
show.

Anthony Stoeckert (28:32):
No, no, yeah, no.
He actually actually says shedon't listen.

Keith Loria (28:35):
Maybe he should watch the woman suffrage
schoolhouse rock.

Jody Schwartz (28:39):
I think I'm well in his world, you know, the
women have only had the right tovote for like 10 years.

Anthony Stoeckert (28:45):
I think after Fonse said that, I'm like,
yeah, Fonz, I've been there,man.

Jody Schwartz (28:53):
I hate it when space chicks don't listen.
I think our producer's gonnacut this part out.
Oh, well, and then call usidiots.

Keith Loria (29:03):
That's normal.
Think how much more idiots wewould be if we didn't watch
schoolhouse rock.

Jody Schwartz (29:07):
Seriously.

Anthony Stoeckert (29:09):
Look how much smarter we actually are.
I don't think I'd know what abill is if it wasn't the
schoolhouse rock joke.
Like today in 2025.
I'd be like, what?

Keith Loria (29:20):
All right, so we're running out of time.
Okay.
All right.

Anthony Stoeckert (29:23):
Bye everybody.
Bye.

Keith Loria (29:26):
Thanks for listening to Don't Touch That
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