December 13, 2022 • 34 mins
The 2022 Selections have proven more of the same -- like a flashback from 2020. Today we talk to someone else that's been in the game. Dr. Mark Sherwood ran for Governor of Oklahoma. You won't believe what he has to say about the "selection". Don't miss this.
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Intro (00:02):
fighting back against the left's non stop attacks on
liberty, freedom and America,America. This is don't tread on
liberty. Jason Davis is on theair.
Jason Davis (00:19):
Hey, welcome back to don't tread on liberty.
Thanks for being here. I'm JasonDavis. We're back. We're going
to talk more about the midtermselections. And you know, last
week I had former US Senatecandidate Daniel McCarthy on
with me and of course, he wasrobbed back in the 2020 cycle
with our fraudulent electionshere in Arizona and someone that
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I've talked to in the past isback to talk about his run for
Oklahoma governor, his formerprofessional bodybuilder,
retired police officer, formergubernatorial candidate for the
state of Oklahoma. And nownatural Pathak Doctor Mark
Sherwood is back. Good to seeyou. How have you been?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (00:58):
Hey, I'm doing well. Good to see you,
too. It's nice to see you thistime of year before a wonderful
holiday season is upon us.
Right?
Jason Davis (01:05):
That's right. And I appreciate you making time for
us here before the busy busyholidays. So thank you very
much. Now, I teased this alittle bit. But just to bring
everybody up to speed the lasttime you were on i You were
running for governor. And wetalked about your platform. And
of course, we totally supportthat. But I kind of teased you a
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little bit because the electionsas proven by the Arizona audit.
And you know, all the otherforensic examiner like yo,
Vaughn Pulitzer and others thathave examined the ballots have
proven extensive fraud, and notjust in Arizona, but across the
country. And so you were runningfor governor and I kind of jazzy
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a little bit about that. But nowthat the the selection is over.
Tell me about your experiencethere in the general election.
Do you think it was fair for youin Oklahoma?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (02:00):
Well, it depends on what you mean, by
fair, I appreciate your conceptof selection. I love that term,
you know, the play on words. Buthonestly, what I did learn was
is that the pro constitution,pro God, pro rights, you know,
within that context, it's notreally possible to get elected
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status anymore. Becauseultimately, you can go out here
and work hard all you want. Butif the machines and all this
stuff are still locked into analgorithm format, it's never
going to work. So I wasn'tsurprised. Let me just kind of
say right now, because as youknow, you know me enough. Now I
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went into it for the rightreasons. Winning to me was being
obedient to the call. So justput that out there. But what I
did learn was is that there isan establishment out here. And
this may be an unpopular thingto say. But in the establishment
Republican Party and theestablishment Democrats, the
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they're pretty much one in thesame. There's very few
constitution awareness, Godloving patriots out there that
are getting elected anymore. Sadto say,
Jason Davis (03:17):
yeah, now, I'd use, you know, you say that word
elected. And I would use it veryloosely, I don't believe Oh,
yeah, fair elections in thiscountry anymore. I think these
machines that are connected tothe internet, are able to be
manipulated. And it's actually afunction of the software, where
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they do something calledfraction magic. So it actually
allows for what's calledfractional voting. And this is
done well, it started under theguise of, you know, for certain
types of maybe ballotpropositions where it affects
maybe property owners. And ifyou own more property than
somebody else, you get morevotes than they get for a
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certain initiative. Right? Well,well, now they're able to
manipulate that and expand itout to all votes. And giovane
pellets are who examined all theArizona ballots from the 2020
cycle. So that's exactly whatthey do. And so now, you know,
and all the states use the samestuff, right? It's either
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Dominion or, you know, someother voting, there's like two
or three of them that they alluse. Yeah. So, I mean, I see
that you're now coming around towhere we've been in Arizona,
we've been pushing for one dayone vote on paper in person, no
mail in ballots, precinctpolling, hand count, Id
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required. Would you back that inOklahoma
Dr. Mark Sherwood (04:44):
1,000%. And I would even add some more things
to it, and I'll talk about it. Ithink I'd be remiss if I didn't
mention one aspect that Iobserved with my own eyes. This
is me from experience in a majorrace, and my wife was right
there with me. We watched asthese early returns came there.
And, and in our case, severalraces in Oklahoma were called
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with about nine to 10% 12% ofthe of the votes coming in. Now,
how do you do that? First ofall, that's statistically
impossible. But we also observedas the person just continued to
come in the percentages of thevotes that they didn't change.
Well, that again, thestatistical probability of that
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is truly and so it didn'tchange. And I know that can
occur, but then you get into it.
And I looked at different in ourown right, so like the different
counties, and it was almostmirrored in different counties,
with the exception of biggercounties, it was more weighted,
where I would get lesspercentage. So it was really
interesting to observe that butto get to your answer, yes, I
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think all those things I wouldabsolutely, unequivocally
support. And I'm going to addthis little unique feature to it
here that I think is needed. Theonly way I believe Jason, that
we're going to get this thingfixed is we're going to fix it
from a local level first. And ifwe don't do that, and we're
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dependent upon a federalsolution to a local problem,
we're gonna get ourselves in allkinds of hot water, we got to go
back to the idea of the 10thamendment. I talked about that
campaign. platform, but thesheriff is a higher ranking law
enforcement official in theland. Right? Right. And so I'm
supportive of a sheriff havingvideotaped locations at these,
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these polling places. And again,I use the analogy, I'm former
law enforcement, as you know,having the radar on the side of
the road, even though there'snot a person out there writing
tickets, that still makes youaware that somebody's watching,
or makes you think somebody'swatching. So I'm really
supportive of having videotapeat these polling places.
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Further, I'm supporting ofhaving a reserve deputy or a
deputy at these places to bethere on site, right. And then
the third will of that thing isgoing to be to make the votes,
which are hand counted on paper,with ID verify with signature.
And idea, of course, those votesshould become part of the
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evidentiary chain of custodyuntil they are counted, and
sufficiently observed and thenreleased for the good of the
count. Right. And so if onecounty does that, it's going to
ensure that at least the votersof that county, and it doesn't
matter which side of the coinyou're on. But at least the
voters of that county are goingto be confident that my vote was
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counted. I showed up in cast andit was right, it was me, and it
got counted one and I don'tthink there's not there's
probably not one personlistening right now that would
not agree with that being veryimportant.
Jason Davis (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
And you're absolutely right.
It's got to be done locally, andit's obviously a local issue,
the counties run the elections.
So the County Board ofSupervisors runs the election in
the county, the State Secretaryof State's office oversees
elections statewide, and theykind of make a rule book about
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how they should be done. But thecounties it's the county's job
to administer. Now, the problem.
Now the problem is, is that likeit, like for example, here in
Arizona, our so called Magga.
First Republicans have beenunwilling to support one day one
vote. In fact, the MagaRepublicans have hindered and
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blocked election integrity inArizona. And as far as I can
tell, they're just as bad as theDemocrats. So if we don't have
elections that are real, and wegot a bunch of people in there
that are phonies to begin with,how are we ever going to get
this square?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (09:07):
Yeah, and I agree with what you said about
there being a pseudo partybecause it is, Look, man, I
learned this the hard way. I'venever been afraid to face the
bowels ahead that are for theright reason, you know, in other
words, to interpose on behalf ofthe people for the cause, right.
That's just kind of how I'mwired. And I think we need more
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people that are wired like that,to stand up like that. Having
said that, the establishmentRepublicans are indeed just as
poor of leaders, as theDemocrats. They are politicians
man and a politician. Their jobis to go out here and persuade
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people to like them slash votefor them. Now, having said that,
when you live your life in orderto say what is necessary do what
is necessary and be whatever isnecessary to be liked you
progress or I should sayregress, then a line of
compromise, you will compromiseyour standards, you'll
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compromise your principles,you'll compromise your your
morals, your ethics, because allyou want to do is be like, it's
like a big popularity thing. Andthey want to be powerful on both
sides of the aisle. And itdoesn't work well to having
proper elections because it'sdriven by this big money,
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nonsensical stuff. And that'sanother prong of my proposed
approach that we would be ableto cap spending on this stuff.
You know, because what doesGeorge Soros have to do with
Arizona? Seriously, what what isthat? Nothing?
Jason Davis (10:48):
Yeah, good question. And, and it's not just
him. Now, we have all theseNGOs, and, you know, all these
super PACs, and they're all youknow, like every ballot
proposition we had was, youknow, 100% funded by these out
of state, NGOs and PACs andstuff. And it's like, you got
all these people funding stuffin Arizona is like, why? You
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know, and you know, why? Becausethey're trying to flip a red
state blue. That's why, but
Dr. Mark Sherwood (11:16):
that goes back to that global or sort of
national agenda, doesn't it? Youknow, Arizona, and Arizonans
should be about Arizona. Andthat means that the
representatives should represent or represent the desires
of the Arizonans and like thesefederal officials, like the
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senators and the congressmanfrom Arizona, their job is to go
to Washington to re present orrepresent the desires and the
will of the people of Arizona,not the other way around. And
it's flipped around so much,Jason worry. Now you have the
federal branch of governmentcontrolling everything. And I'm
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hoping that maybe a sheriff andthere's a few out there that
will eventually just push backand say, You know what, I
appreciate you, but don't needyour help. I'm good. And do it
that way. And if they did, itwould fix things. One County at
a time.
Jason Davis (12:17):
Yeah. And you know, there's a few that will and
there's a few that have,actually, but they're in the
minority. Maybe you should,Sheriff mark?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (12:26):
Well, you know, I've been asked that
question. It's interesting. Youknow, I'll give you a little bit
of a side note tangential butrelated story to prove a
negative point. In Oklahoma,there are 77 counties, okay. And
every state has all thesecounties, and each county has
the county sheriff and thecounty seat and all that stuff.
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That's the beauty of ourconstitutional republic the way
it should have checks andbalances with the people being
the governors of the government.
Right. The governors of thegovernment is the people. Having
said that, we actually brought aformer constitutional fighting
Sheriff Richard Mack, we broughthim to Oklahoma, right? Yeah.
Yeah, Chrisann Hall, we broughtthem to educate. And we paid for
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it to come in to Oklahoma. Andagain, what do I have to gain
from that? Nothing. But I didset a tone for an event. a one
day event in Oklahoma is themiddle of our campaign. And I
invited my other team invite all77 sheriffs, from Oklahoma.
Interestingly enough, me beingin law enforcement, I had the
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distinct honor of being thesupervisor, to to have three of
the current 77 sheriff's whenthey were working for me at the
police department, right. Andthen I knew the other one very
well. So three, and then Iactually knew when I fought with
and blood, sweat and tears thirdwith of the 77 that were
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invited, three showed up.
Because they become well, theybecome politicians, as you see.
And anytime you have a electionselection process, where we are
running a race in order to bereelected, or running a race in
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order to not lose, we getshifted into a thing where we
don't stand up for the rightthings because we don't wanna
lose our job. But again, we gotto stand up for what's right. As
opposed to standing for what'swrong to maintain our position.
That still in the room. Yeah,
Jason Davis (14:46):
it's very interesting that only three
showed up and it was the threethat you knew from before,
right? No. Okay.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (14:54):
So I know right? You talk about my heart
thinking man and I'm, I wear myfeelings on my shoulder sleeve
sometime. Know that I have aheart, but I was like sunk. And
I call them text them. Nothing.
Nothing. They they just and Idid not do that for my good. I
didn't do that for theirendorsement. I did it for the
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good of the people of Oklahoma,you know,
Jason Davis (15:18):
I think is fascinating. Mark is that? You
know, I'm former law enforcementmyself, right. I'm a former
sheriff. And of course, and ofcourse, I think it's fascinating
that the sheriff's, I mean,they're actually shooting
themselves in the foot, youknow, they're, they're, they're
giving away their constitutionalauthority to someone else. By
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not by not be willing to take astand not be willing to exert
their rightful authority aschief law enforcement officer
who's going to do it then. Okay,so now we leave the city police
to do it, or you're going toleave the politicians to do it.
It's like, no, that's your jobto do. And you're not doing it.
Right.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (16:03):
Well, they have shifted it over to other
than them, because they don'twant to stand up for the right
things. It's the only thing Ican think of man. And,
Jason Davis (16:12):
and you and I can't know the right things maybe?
Well,
Dr. Mark Sherwood (16:15):
yeah, I think that it's one of two things, you
know, they're even eithercowards, and I use that word to
you. Because you know, exactly.
We don't use that word lightlyat all. When you're cowardice to
stand up for the right thing forfear of losing something. You
don't even know how to stand forthe right thing. You don't have
it in here. And to me, at thatpoint, you're not fit to wear
that badge, whatever that means.
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And I am, I'm convinced of that,you know, because it takes
courage to raise your hand upand say, I'm going to protect
the rights of the people andhonor the Constitution, you
know, of the state. And and thisthe country's constitution with
my life if need be. You know, ifthat's your job, how can you
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swear, protect somebody youdon't even know about? If you
don't know about that yourfault? And if you do know, and
don't stand up, that's also yourfault.
Jason Davis (17:06):
Yeah, I look around. And, you know, I, I talk
to people and have contact withlaw enforcement today. And
things that I still hear, youknow, because I still kind of
hear things from time to time.
It's just really funny howdifferent things are, I mean,
you know, government's sole jobis to protect our rights. Yeah.
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And that is government's solejob. And instead, they seem bent
on just violating everyone'srights. It's absurd.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (17:41):
Government today has turned into a power
hungry, narcissistic practice,to generate control over people.
So the people will follow yourwhim and serve your every need.
But true government the way itshould be in true leaders are
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meant to bend over backwards toserve the people. It's flipped
around like, polar oppositeends. And, and I gotta tell you,
man, that makes me very sad.
Because I joined the lawenforcement career back in 1989,
and served for 24 years, 10years in which the SWAT team and
I met some heroes, man, lastsome people that I knew, but I
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met some of the finest mostupstanding, amazing human beings
in the whole world. And you knowwhat I'm talking about. There's
that thing inside you that says,Man, I know what you've been
through. And it's, it's morethan just a thin blue line that
protects against chaos mean? Itprotects against over arching
reaching government, that's whatit does. It's what you're
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supposed to do. And yet forwhatever reason, now, they've
been co opted? Yeah, we are, arewe are it's like, we're
compromised. Yeah,
Jason Davis (18:54):
everything's been compromised. And of course, this
is all being driven by aglobalist movement. Because you
see it in every country on theface of the earth, the same
things are happening. They'resaying the same things. They're
doing the same things. They'reall the same. So you know, it's
an organized movement. Now,they're all taking orders from
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somewhere. And you know, I havesome ideas of where that is, and
I'm sure you did, too. But wealready talked about election
integrity. If we don't fixelections,
Unknown (19:28):
forget it, right. Yes.
Jason Davis (19:31):
Okay. Now, the other thing that I think we need
to all be doing simultaneously,is building a parallel system.
The people have to have theability, because this system is
teetering on the edge, right?
The economy is teetering on theedge, the law enforcement, the
government, but everythingright, so we need to have a
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parallel system and we need tohave Christian business This is
popping up for everything thatyou can think of, you know,
banking, communications,internet. Stores, I mean
everything, right? Because it'seither going to, we're either
going to get our electionsfixed, or we're not. But we're
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going to need a different systemif that doesn't happen.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (20:20):
Well, I agree with that. And I think the
different system is one thataffects every walk of life. I'll
give you an example. Like in ourown life, right now, as me being
a doctor of nature, Rob and mywife, Doctor of osteopathy, and
our big staff, which nursepractitioners and, look, we're
all about keeping people wellman and keep them out of that
system. So we exist right now asan alternate system. It's a way
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to do business in regard to thistrue idea of health care. But
we're going to find out thatjust like I described there, in
the system in which we operate,it's a system that has stood the
test of time, the system thatwe're trying to get away from is
a brand new system, it's beenaround, you know, 100 150 years,
it's a new system, right. And soI want to go back to the systems
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of old that work that are aboutpeople that are about wellness,
and with our economic system,we're going to have to come up
with a system of barteringagain, of unique transference
of, of goods and services, theway we used to do it, and we can
do that, again, we're going tohave to come up with a way to
create energy on our own, to beself sustainable, to be self
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governing, to where we do notneed the dependence upon the
federal government for a checkfor Madison, for housing for all
this mess. We're gonna have todo that. And I just don't I
don't want to be a naysayer, Idon't see, in our current
system, a way that our electionselection process is corrected.
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I don't, because you're stillseeing people that are
campaigning right now. From thefederal level, I'm going to fix
the elections. No, you're not.
Your job should be to supportthe local candidate. So they can
fix them. But you won't do that.
Because you're about your ownself glorification. I'm just
being very transparent with youright there. We're going to have
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to come up with a system ofgovernment within the states and
local areas. That's alternative.
I know, there's some states likeTexas, they've got the Republic
of Texas as an alternate form ofgovernment. And I think that
that's we're going to have togo, I just do and I It pains me
to say we pull that nuclearoption, you know, like that they
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use a metaphoric term. But itseems like that's where we are
right now.
Jason Davis (22:43):
I agree. I'm not sure that we have the leaders
even on the state level thathave the ability, the gumption
or the guts to actually dosomething like that. You know,
so that's really the problem.
And now, you know, we're seeingour local elections impacted,
just like the federal ones, andthis is only going to get worse
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from here. I don't know. I'm,you know, I don't know, I think
we're both it sounds like we'rekind of both on the same page
with this. So your campaignobviously wasn't successful,
what is going to be next foryou?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (23:22):
Well, I mean, I'd be success maybe a little
differently, you know, saidyesterday, the call we
communicated a message. Ilearned a lot about the
Constitution. I learned a lotabout people so I'm super
pleased with that. No regrets. Icommunicated my love for God and
country and my wife, everysingle speech and so no lost
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there. I don't know we're gonnakeep out here fighting and like
we are, you know, I'm still outof here at pushing every day
we've got a brand new televisionshow that we communicate,
physical, emotional, spiritual,governmental, and financial
health. We've developed Kingdomfuel, which is a brand new food
supply $5 a meal, organic, pea,full spectrum vitamins and
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minerals, greens and reds andfull fibres soluble and
insoluble so we're trying tocome up with solutions. We're
going to continue to make somemovies that are meant to be
family friendly, wholesome,inspiring educational
entertainment, full length filmsand runner. We've done our
fourth one our fifth now, and ifwe're told to run again, if God
says do it, I mean, I will, youknow, but it's like, man, it was
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hard. It was really hard. Inever worked hard in my whole
life. Never.
Jason Davis (24:39):
I believe it. And to be honest, until they fix
elections, why would you? Imean, what it's like, yeah, it's
like playing it's like playing arigged game. I mean, why would
you do it?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (24:52):
Exactly. And that's a hard thing to
understand. And, and I gottatell you, you know, this is
people are listening right nowhear hear him My heart with this
man, you want to believe downdeep that it's not that bad? You
really do. Oh, I couldn't bethat bad. Yeah, I'm telling you
right now stop reality is goingto sit in I'm not saying that
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it's going to that it's notgoing to change. I'm not saying
it's going to change. I'm sayingthat it really is that that?
Yeah, it really is. And this is,you understand reality like
this, you can actually begin toformulate a plan to respond to
it.
Jason Davis (25:30):
Having having been heavily involved here in
Arizona, and been down at theCapitol so many times and, you
know, confronting theselawmakers and talking to them. I
mean, I, you know, I see whatthey do I see the games that go
on, and how and how theyintentionally block things that
are good for the people, eventhe ones that, you know, say
they're on your side. So how Ipromise you and I tell this, I
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say this every week, and nobodybelieves me, however bad you
think it is, I promise you it'smuch, much worse, I promise you.
So I totally get where you'recoming from with that. But
still, I think you should runfor sheriff mark.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (26:07):
Well, I might, you know, I'll just I'll
be obedient. And one thing aboutwherever I'm at, and whenever
I'm doing with God's help, I'mgonna stand up for the right
things. And my wife supportiveof that will see whatever,
whatever happens happens. I'mhere to in the meantime to
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support and communicate truth.
And, man, Jason, I'm superhonored to be with you on this
broadcast today. I mean, there'sno right I'd rather be than
right now communicating truthand hope, through a broadcast
that actually is standing onthose principles. And so it's an
honor man, and and so I'll dothat every chance I get, because
right now, it's a good platform.
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And hopefully, people arereceptive. And if one person
gets out there, and sort of, ifyou pardon, the play on words,
gets awakened, becomes really,truly woke the right way, you
know, maybe they'll be able tomake a change on their local
level.
Jason Davis (27:07):
Well, I appreciate those words. And since you say
that, I want to run somethingpast you. Because, you know, to
this point, I've been doing thisbroadcast now for the last two
years. And I've mainly beenfocusing on talking to people
like yourself and other leadersand political leaders, sheriffs,
and politicians, and I've haddoctors and lawyers and you
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know, Thomas wrens and a lot ofhigh profile people on this
program. But mainly to get theword out, like you said,
awareness, right, let's, let'swake people up, let's let them
see what's actually going on,you know, this COVID stuff is
really how it started for me.
But now, you know, I've donethat so long, I've done this and
trying to just wake people up.
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And still, you know, a lot ofpeople are not. So I'm, I'm
wondering if I should start topivot on what you're doing,
which is trying to findsolutions. And I think next
year, all my broadcasts aregoing to be about solutions,
alternative options fordifferent things, and how to
prepare and how to become selfsufficient. What do you think of
that? Is that a good idea?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (28:13):
I think it's a great idea. That's kind of
where we've gone. Jason, aren'twe, you know, we go back to that
kingdom fuel. That's right onour website, sherwood.tv. That's
we have it right there. It's asolution. And people can't fight
for our country. They can'tfight with the Constitution,
they can't stand for God andcommunicate his goodness, if
they're dead. So I want to makesure people understand that we
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have to communicate solution oftruth. You know, where do people
go to get a hub central hubinformation? How can they
connect with other groups? Ithink it's a brilliant idea. I
am 1,000% supportive of that,and lend anything I can do to
support that endeavor. Becauseif we can get people linked
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together with the solutionoriented process, and ideas, we
can share ideas like this, thisis sharing ideas. Maybe there's
an idea about a sheriff outthere that go hey, man, you
know, maybe I want to do that.
Well connect with us and walkyou through the process. Maybe
we don't have the idea laid outperfectly, but maybe it's an
idea that actually will get sometraction and feet. And it just
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starts with one county. Itstarts with one life. It starts
with one family. It starts withone community, and we may be the
minority. But let us understandthe 56 people that signed the
Declaration of Independence.
Man, they were very much theminority too. And I consider
myself as I sit here right now,being one that would be would
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have been willing to do that.
And again, I wasn't around backthen. But I believe I would have
been willing to do that. And Ithink part of our law
enforcement background wouldlend themselves to that. Value
and courage, courage as well.
Jason Davis (30:00):
Yeah, I think you're right. And as you well
know, it only takes 3% to changethe world. So I think last
question. And last topic, Ithink that you really nailed it
before, you know, you're veryvocal about your faith. And I
think really, that's wherethat's where the rubber meets
the road in this battle, thiscountry, you know, largely has
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turned its back on God. And Ithink, until we go back to God,
we're gonna have some seriousproblems.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (30:29):
I agree, you know, our country's constitution
and everything about it. Andeven the hearts of our founding
fathers was formed with theawareness of who God is. Maybe
they weren't all strongChristians, or whatever, but
they did recognize who God is.
And I believe God is who He saysHe is, I believe that I need him
to have a moral compass in life,to have a sense of virtue.
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Without him. And without hisideals, I would have no remedy
of right or wrong, which is whypeople today are pushing his
name and pushing it away frommainstream, because, you know,
God represents truth, and godlyprinciples, work for even not an
ungodly people, which is thebeauty of America. Not everybody
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in America is Christ centered orGod centric. But if we will
understand who God is Jason onceagain, and acknowledge Him as
the creator of everything andrealize that we all have a
choice. And one of the greatestgifts God's given us is our
ability to choose just to say,you know, I can choose to, you
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know, eat a french fry, or I canchoose the kingdom fuel, I can
choose to walk in a bar in frontof a bus, or I can choose to
wait on the bus to go by, I canchoose to do something dumb, or
I can choose to do somethingsmart. It's a choice. I can
choose to follow theConstitution or not, I can
choose to break the law or not.
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That's the beauty of who God is.
Right? It's the beauty of yourcountry. And if we can get this
back together, I think we have achance. Because there's more.
There's so many millions ofpeople here, and the 10s of
millions of people that believeand hold on to the things I just
talked about, and we're talkingabout. They do. And I believe
it's the majority, but they'vebeen silenced. They've been
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apathetic, too darn long, andit's time for them to step up,
speak up and be heard again.
There's a time to sit on yourbutt. And there's a time to
stand. There's a time to besilent. And there's a time to
speak. There's a time to bewhispering and there's a time to
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shout.
Jason Davis (32:42):
There's a season for everything. Yes, yeah.
Ecclesiastes
Dr. Mark Sherwood (32:45):
four. We got to be ready for all of it right
now.
Jason Davis (32:48):
That's right. Well, I totally agree. Author,
filmmaker police officer,naturopathic doctor, Mark
Sherwood, thank you for beinghere. God bless you.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (33:02):
God bless you, Jason. Thanks for having
me, man.
Jason Davis (33:05):
Anytime.
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Jason Davis (00:19):
Hey, welcome back to don't tread on liberty.
Thanks for being here. I'm JasonDavis. We're back. We're going
to talk more about the midtermselections. And you know, last
week I had former US Senatecandidate Daniel McCarthy on
with me and of course, he wasrobbed back in the 2020 cycle
with our fraudulent electionshere in Arizona and someone that
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I've talked to in the past isback to talk about his run for
Oklahoma governor, his formerprofessional bodybuilder,
retired police officer, formergubernatorial candidate for the
state of Oklahoma. And nownatural Pathak Doctor Mark
Sherwood is back. Good to seeyou. How have you been?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (00:58):
Hey, I'm doing well. Good to see you,
too. It's nice to see you thistime of year before a wonderful
holiday season is upon us.
Right?
Jason Davis (01:05):
That's right. And I appreciate you making time for
us here before the busy busyholidays. So thank you very
much. Now, I teased this alittle bit. But just to bring
everybody up to speed the lasttime you were on i You were
running for governor. And wetalked about your platform. And
of course, we totally supportthat. But I kind of teased you a
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little bit because the electionsas proven by the Arizona audit.
And you know, all the otherforensic examiner like yo,
Vaughn Pulitzer and others thathave examined the ballots have
proven extensive fraud, and notjust in Arizona, but across the
country. And so you were runningfor governor and I kind of jazzy
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a little bit about that. But nowthat the the selection is over.
Tell me about your experiencethere in the general election.
Do you think it was fair for youin Oklahoma?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (02:00):
Well, it depends on what you mean, by
fair, I appreciate your conceptof selection. I love that term,
you know, the play on words. Buthonestly, what I did learn was
is that the pro constitution,pro God, pro rights, you know,
within that context, it's notreally possible to get elected
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status anymore. Becauseultimately, you can go out here
and work hard all you want. Butif the machines and all this
stuff are still locked into analgorithm format, it's never
going to work. So I wasn'tsurprised. Let me just kind of
say right now, because as youknow, you know me enough. Now I
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went into it for the rightreasons. Winning to me was being
obedient to the call. So justput that out there. But what I
did learn was is that there isan establishment out here. And
this may be an unpopular thingto say. But in the establishment
Republican Party and theestablishment Democrats, the
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they're pretty much one in thesame. There's very few
constitution awareness, Godloving patriots out there that
are getting elected anymore. Sadto say,
Jason Davis (03:17):
yeah, now, I'd use, you know, you say that word
elected. And I would use it veryloosely, I don't believe Oh,
yeah, fair elections in thiscountry anymore. I think these
machines that are connected tothe internet, are able to be
manipulated. And it's actually afunction of the software, where
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they do something calledfraction magic. So it actually
allows for what's calledfractional voting. And this is
done well, it started under theguise of, you know, for certain
types of maybe ballotpropositions where it affects
maybe property owners. And ifyou own more property than
somebody else, you get morevotes than they get for a
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certain initiative. Right? Well,well, now they're able to
manipulate that and expand itout to all votes. And giovane
pellets are who examined all theArizona ballots from the 2020
cycle. So that's exactly whatthey do. And so now, you know,
and all the states use the samestuff, right? It's either
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Dominion or, you know, someother voting, there's like two
or three of them that they alluse. Yeah. So, I mean, I see
that you're now coming around towhere we've been in Arizona,
we've been pushing for one dayone vote on paper in person, no
mail in ballots, precinctpolling, hand count, Id
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required. Would you back that inOklahoma
Dr. Mark Sherwood (04:44):
1,000%. And I would even add some more things
to it, and I'll talk about it. Ithink I'd be remiss if I didn't
mention one aspect that Iobserved with my own eyes. This
is me from experience in a majorrace, and my wife was right
there with me. We watched asthese early returns came there.
And, and in our case, severalraces in Oklahoma were called
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with about nine to 10% 12% ofthe of the votes coming in. Now,
how do you do that? First ofall, that's statistically
impossible. But we also observedas the person just continued to
come in the percentages of thevotes that they didn't change.
Well, that again, thestatistical probability of that
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is truly and so it didn'tchange. And I know that can
occur, but then you get into it.
And I looked at different in ourown right, so like the different
counties, and it was almostmirrored in different counties,
with the exception of biggercounties, it was more weighted,
where I would get lesspercentage. So it was really
interesting to observe that butto get to your answer, yes, I
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think all those things I wouldabsolutely, unequivocally
support. And I'm going to addthis little unique feature to it
here that I think is needed. Theonly way I believe Jason, that
we're going to get this thingfixed is we're going to fix it
from a local level first. And ifwe don't do that, and we're
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dependent upon a federalsolution to a local problem,
we're gonna get ourselves in allkinds of hot water, we got to go
back to the idea of the 10thamendment. I talked about that
campaign. platform, but thesheriff is a higher ranking law
enforcement official in theland. Right? Right. And so I'm
supportive of a sheriff havingvideotaped locations at these,
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these polling places. And again,I use the analogy, I'm former
law enforcement, as you know,having the radar on the side of
the road, even though there'snot a person out there writing
tickets, that still makes youaware that somebody's watching,
or makes you think somebody'swatching. So I'm really
supportive of having videotapeat these polling places.
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Further, I'm supporting ofhaving a reserve deputy or a
deputy at these places to bethere on site, right. And then
the third will of that thing isgoing to be to make the votes,
which are hand counted on paper,with ID verify with signature.
And idea, of course, those votesshould become part of the
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evidentiary chain of custodyuntil they are counted, and
sufficiently observed and thenreleased for the good of the
count. Right. And so if onecounty does that, it's going to
ensure that at least the votersof that county, and it doesn't
matter which side of the coinyou're on. But at least the
voters of that county are goingto be confident that my vote was
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counted. I showed up in cast andit was right, it was me, and it
got counted one and I don'tthink there's not there's
probably not one personlistening right now that would
not agree with that being veryimportant.
Jason Davis (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
And you're absolutely right.
It's got to be done locally, andit's obviously a local issue,
the counties run the elections.
So the County Board ofSupervisors runs the election in
the county, the State Secretaryof State's office oversees
elections statewide, and theykind of make a rule book about
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how they should be done. But thecounties it's the county's job
to administer. Now, the problem.
Now the problem is, is that likeit, like for example, here in
Arizona, our so called Magga.
First Republicans have beenunwilling to support one day one
vote. In fact, the MagaRepublicans have hindered and
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blocked election integrity inArizona. And as far as I can
tell, they're just as bad as theDemocrats. So if we don't have
elections that are real, and wegot a bunch of people in there
that are phonies to begin with,how are we ever going to get
this square?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (09:07):
Yeah, and I agree with what you said about
there being a pseudo partybecause it is, Look, man, I
learned this the hard way. I'venever been afraid to face the
bowels ahead that are for theright reason, you know, in other
words, to interpose on behalf ofthe people for the cause, right.
That's just kind of how I'mwired. And I think we need more
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people that are wired like that,to stand up like that. Having
said that, the establishmentRepublicans are indeed just as
poor of leaders, as theDemocrats. They are politicians
man and a politician. Their jobis to go out here and persuade
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people to like them slash votefor them. Now, having said that,
when you live your life in orderto say what is necessary do what
is necessary and be whatever isnecessary to be liked you
progress or I should sayregress, then a line of
compromise, you will compromiseyour standards, you'll
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compromise your principles,you'll compromise your your
morals, your ethics, because allyou want to do is be like, it's
like a big popularity thing. Andthey want to be powerful on both
sides of the aisle. And itdoesn't work well to having
proper elections because it'sdriven by this big money,
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nonsensical stuff. And that'sanother prong of my proposed
approach that we would be ableto cap spending on this stuff.
You know, because what doesGeorge Soros have to do with
Arizona? Seriously, what what isthat? Nothing?
Jason Davis (10:48):
Yeah, good question. And, and it's not just
him. Now, we have all theseNGOs, and, you know, all these
super PACs, and they're all youknow, like every ballot
proposition we had was, youknow, 100% funded by these out
of state, NGOs and PACs andstuff. And it's like, you got
all these people funding stuffin Arizona is like, why? You
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know, and you know, why? Becausethey're trying to flip a red
state blue. That's why, but
Dr. Mark Sherwood (11:16):
that goes back to that global or sort of
national agenda, doesn't it? Youknow, Arizona, and Arizonans
should be about Arizona. Andthat means that the
representatives should represent or represent the desires
of the Arizonans and like thesefederal officials, like the
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senators and the congressmanfrom Arizona, their job is to go
to Washington to re present orrepresent the desires and the
will of the people of Arizona,not the other way around. And
it's flipped around so much,Jason worry. Now you have the
federal branch of governmentcontrolling everything. And I'm
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hoping that maybe a sheriff andthere's a few out there that
will eventually just push backand say, You know what, I
appreciate you, but don't needyour help. I'm good. And do it
that way. And if they did, itwould fix things. One County at
a time.
Jason Davis (12:17):
Yeah. And you know, there's a few that will and
there's a few that have,actually, but they're in the
minority. Maybe you should,Sheriff mark?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (12:26):
Well, you know, I've been asked that
question. It's interesting. Youknow, I'll give you a little bit
of a side note tangential butrelated story to prove a
negative point. In Oklahoma,there are 77 counties, okay. And
every state has all thesecounties, and each county has
the county sheriff and thecounty seat and all that stuff.
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That's the beauty of ourconstitutional republic the way
it should have checks andbalances with the people being
the governors of the government.
Right. The governors of thegovernment is the people. Having
said that, we actually brought aformer constitutional fighting
Sheriff Richard Mack, we broughthim to Oklahoma, right? Yeah.
Yeah, Chrisann Hall, we broughtthem to educate. And we paid for
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it to come in to Oklahoma. Andagain, what do I have to gain
from that? Nothing. But I didset a tone for an event. a one
day event in Oklahoma is themiddle of our campaign. And I
invited my other team invite all77 sheriffs, from Oklahoma.
Interestingly enough, me beingin law enforcement, I had the
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distinct honor of being thesupervisor, to to have three of
the current 77 sheriff's whenthey were working for me at the
police department, right. Andthen I knew the other one very
well. So three, and then Iactually knew when I fought with
and blood, sweat and tears thirdwith of the 77 that were
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invited, three showed up.
Because they become well, theybecome politicians, as you see.
And anytime you have a electionselection process, where we are
running a race in order to bereelected, or running a race in
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order to not lose, we getshifted into a thing where we
don't stand up for the rightthings because we don't wanna
lose our job. But again, we gotto stand up for what's right. As
opposed to standing for what'swrong to maintain our position.
That still in the room. Yeah,
Jason Davis (14:46):
it's very interesting that only three
showed up and it was the threethat you knew from before,
right? No. Okay.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (14:54):
So I know right? You talk about my heart
thinking man and I'm, I wear myfeelings on my shoulder sleeve
sometime. Know that I have aheart, but I was like sunk. And
I call them text them. Nothing.
Nothing. They they just and Idid not do that for my good. I
didn't do that for theirendorsement. I did it for the
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good of the people of Oklahoma,you know,
Jason Davis (15:18):
I think is fascinating. Mark is that? You
know, I'm former law enforcementmyself, right. I'm a former
sheriff. And of course, and ofcourse, I think it's fascinating
that the sheriff's, I mean,they're actually shooting
themselves in the foot, youknow, they're, they're, they're
giving away their constitutionalauthority to someone else. By
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not by not be willing to take astand not be willing to exert
their rightful authority aschief law enforcement officer
who's going to do it then. Okay,so now we leave the city police
to do it, or you're going toleave the politicians to do it.
It's like, no, that's your jobto do. And you're not doing it.
Right.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (16:03):
Well, they have shifted it over to other
than them, because they don'twant to stand up for the right
things. It's the only thing Ican think of man. And,
Jason Davis (16:12):
and you and I can't know the right things maybe?
Well,
Dr. Mark Sherwood (16:15):
yeah, I think that it's one of two things, you
know, they're even eithercowards, and I use that word to
you. Because you know, exactly.
We don't use that word lightlyat all. When you're cowardice to
stand up for the right thing forfear of losing something. You
don't even know how to stand forthe right thing. You don't have
it in here. And to me, at thatpoint, you're not fit to wear
that badge, whatever that means.
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And I am, I'm convinced of that,you know, because it takes
courage to raise your hand upand say, I'm going to protect
the rights of the people andhonor the Constitution, you
know, of the state. And and thisthe country's constitution with
my life if need be. You know, ifthat's your job, how can you
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swear, protect somebody youdon't even know about? If you
don't know about that yourfault? And if you do know, and
don't stand up, that's also yourfault.
Jason Davis (17:06):
Yeah, I look around. And, you know, I, I talk
to people and have contact withlaw enforcement today. And
things that I still hear, youknow, because I still kind of
hear things from time to time.
It's just really funny howdifferent things are, I mean,
you know, government's sole jobis to protect our rights. Yeah.
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And that is government's solejob. And instead, they seem bent
on just violating everyone'srights. It's absurd.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (17:41):
Government today has turned into a power
hungry, narcissistic practice,to generate control over people.
So the people will follow yourwhim and serve your every need.
But true government the way itshould be in true leaders are
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meant to bend over backwards toserve the people. It's flipped
around like, polar oppositeends. And, and I gotta tell you,
man, that makes me very sad.
Because I joined the lawenforcement career back in 1989,
and served for 24 years, 10years in which the SWAT team and
I met some heroes, man, lastsome people that I knew, but I
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met some of the finest mostupstanding, amazing human beings
in the whole world. And you knowwhat I'm talking about. There's
that thing inside you that says,Man, I know what you've been
through. And it's, it's morethan just a thin blue line that
protects against chaos mean? Itprotects against over arching
reaching government, that's whatit does. It's what you're
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supposed to do. And yet forwhatever reason, now, they've
been co opted? Yeah, we are, arewe are it's like, we're
compromised. Yeah,
Jason Davis (18:54):
everything's been compromised. And of course, this
is all being driven by aglobalist movement. Because you
see it in every country on theface of the earth, the same
things are happening. They'resaying the same things. They're
doing the same things. They'reall the same. So you know, it's
an organized movement. Now,they're all taking orders from
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somewhere. And you know, I havesome ideas of where that is, and
I'm sure you did, too. But wealready talked about election
integrity. If we don't fixelections,
Unknown (19:28):
forget it, right. Yes.
Jason Davis (19:31):
Okay. Now, the other thing that I think we need
to all be doing simultaneously,is building a parallel system.
The people have to have theability, because this system is
teetering on the edge, right?
The economy is teetering on theedge, the law enforcement, the
government, but everythingright, so we need to have a
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parallel system and we need tohave Christian business This is
popping up for everything thatyou can think of, you know,
banking, communications,internet. Stores, I mean
everything, right? Because it'seither going to, we're either
going to get our electionsfixed, or we're not. But we're
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going to need a different systemif that doesn't happen.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (20:20):
Well, I agree with that. And I think the
different system is one thataffects every walk of life. I'll
give you an example. Like in ourown life, right now, as me being
a doctor of nature, Rob and mywife, Doctor of osteopathy, and
our big staff, which nursepractitioners and, look, we're
all about keeping people wellman and keep them out of that
system. So we exist right now asan alternate system. It's a way
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to do business in regard to thistrue idea of health care. But
we're going to find out thatjust like I described there, in
the system in which we operate,it's a system that has stood the
test of time, the system thatwe're trying to get away from is
a brand new system, it's beenaround, you know, 100 150 years,
it's a new system, right. And soI want to go back to the systems
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of old that work that are aboutpeople that are about wellness,
and with our economic system,we're going to have to come up
with a system of barteringagain, of unique transference
of, of goods and services, theway we used to do it, and we can
do that, again, we're going tohave to come up with a way to
create energy on our own, to beself sustainable, to be self
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governing, to where we do notneed the dependence upon the
federal government for a checkfor Madison, for housing for all
this mess. We're gonna have todo that. And I just don't I
don't want to be a naysayer, Idon't see, in our current
system, a way that our electionselection process is corrected.
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I don't, because you're stillseeing people that are
campaigning right now. From thefederal level, I'm going to fix
the elections. No, you're not.
Your job should be to supportthe local candidate. So they can
fix them. But you won't do that.
Because you're about your ownself glorification. I'm just
being very transparent with youright there. We're going to have
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to come up with a system ofgovernment within the states and
local areas. That's alternative.
I know, there's some states likeTexas, they've got the Republic
of Texas as an alternate form ofgovernment. And I think that
that's we're going to have togo, I just do and I It pains me
to say we pull that nuclearoption, you know, like that they
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use a metaphoric term. But itseems like that's where we are
right now.
Jason Davis (22:43):
I agree. I'm not sure that we have the leaders
even on the state level thathave the ability, the gumption
or the guts to actually dosomething like that. You know,
so that's really the problem.
And now, you know, we're seeingour local elections impacted,
just like the federal ones, andthis is only going to get worse
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from here. I don't know. I'm,you know, I don't know, I think
we're both it sounds like we'rekind of both on the same page
with this. So your campaignobviously wasn't successful,
what is going to be next foryou?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (23:22):
Well, I mean, I'd be success maybe a little
differently, you know, saidyesterday, the call we
communicated a message. Ilearned a lot about the
Constitution. I learned a lotabout people so I'm super
pleased with that. No regrets. Icommunicated my love for God and
country and my wife, everysingle speech and so no lost
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there. I don't know we're gonnakeep out here fighting and like
we are, you know, I'm still outof here at pushing every day
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hard. It was really hard. Inever worked hard in my whole
life. Never.
Jason Davis (24:39):
I believe it. And to be honest, until they fix
elections, why would you? Imean, what it's like, yeah, it's
like playing it's like playing arigged game. I mean, why would
you do it?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (24:52):
Exactly. And that's a hard thing to
understand. And, and I gottatell you, you know, this is
people are listening right nowhear hear him My heart with this
man, you want to believe downdeep that it's not that bad? You
really do. Oh, I couldn't bethat bad. Yeah, I'm telling you
right now stop reality is goingto sit in I'm not saying that
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it's going to that it's notgoing to change. I'm not saying
it's going to change. I'm sayingthat it really is that that?
Yeah, it really is. And this is,you understand reality like
this, you can actually begin toformulate a plan to respond to
it.
Jason Davis (25:30):
Having having been heavily involved here in
Arizona, and been down at theCapitol so many times and, you
know, confronting theselawmakers and talking to them. I
mean, I, you know, I see whatthey do I see the games that go
on, and how and how theyintentionally block things that
are good for the people, eventhe ones that, you know, say
they're on your side. So how Ipromise you and I tell this, I
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say this every week, and nobodybelieves me, however bad you
think it is, I promise you it'smuch, much worse, I promise you.
So I totally get where you'recoming from with that. But
still, I think you should runfor sheriff mark.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (26:07):
Well, I might, you know, I'll just I'll
be obedient. And one thing aboutwherever I'm at, and whenever
I'm doing with God's help, I'mgonna stand up for the right
things. And my wife supportiveof that will see whatever,
whatever happens happens. I'mhere to in the meantime to
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support and communicate truth.
And, man, Jason, I'm superhonored to be with you on this
broadcast today. I mean, there'sno right I'd rather be than
right now communicating truthand hope, through a broadcast
that actually is standing onthose principles. And so it's an
honor man, and and so I'll dothat every chance I get, because
right now, it's a good platform.
(26:50):
And hopefully, people arereceptive. And if one person
gets out there, and sort of, ifyou pardon, the play on words,
gets awakened, becomes really,truly woke the right way, you
know, maybe they'll be able tomake a change on their local
level.
Jason Davis (27:07):
Well, I appreciate those words. And since you say
that, I want to run somethingpast you. Because, you know, to
this point, I've been doing thisbroadcast now for the last two
years. And I've mainly beenfocusing on talking to people
like yourself and other leadersand political leaders, sheriffs,
and politicians, and I've haddoctors and lawyers and you
(27:29):
know, Thomas wrens and a lot ofhigh profile people on this
program. But mainly to get theword out, like you said,
awareness, right, let's, let'swake people up, let's let them
see what's actually going on,you know, this COVID stuff is
really how it started for me.
But now, you know, I've donethat so long, I've done this and
trying to just wake people up.
(27:53):
And still, you know, a lot ofpeople are not. So I'm, I'm
wondering if I should start topivot on what you're doing,
which is trying to findsolutions. And I think next
year, all my broadcasts aregoing to be about solutions,
alternative options fordifferent things, and how to
prepare and how to become selfsufficient. What do you think of
that? Is that a good idea?
Dr. Mark Sherwood (28:13):
I think it's a great idea. That's kind of
where we've gone. Jason, aren'twe, you know, we go back to that
kingdom fuel. That's right onour website, sherwood.tv. That's
we have it right there. It's asolution. And people can't fight
for our country. They can'tfight with the Constitution,
they can't stand for God andcommunicate his goodness, if
they're dead. So I want to makesure people understand that we
(28:36):
have to communicate solution oftruth. You know, where do people
go to get a hub central hubinformation? How can they
connect with other groups? Ithink it's a brilliant idea. I
am 1,000% supportive of that,and lend anything I can do to
support that endeavor. Becauseif we can get people linked
(28:59):
together with the solutionoriented process, and ideas, we
can share ideas like this, thisis sharing ideas. Maybe there's
an idea about a sheriff outthere that go hey, man, you
know, maybe I want to do that.
Well connect with us and walkyou through the process. Maybe
we don't have the idea laid outperfectly, but maybe it's an
idea that actually will get sometraction and feet. And it just
(29:21):
starts with one county. Itstarts with one life. It starts
with one family. It starts withone community, and we may be the
minority. But let us understandthe 56 people that signed the
Declaration of Independence.
Man, they were very much theminority too. And I consider
myself as I sit here right now,being one that would be would
(29:45):
have been willing to do that.
And again, I wasn't around backthen. But I believe I would have
been willing to do that. And Ithink part of our law
enforcement background wouldlend themselves to that. Value
and courage, courage as well.
Jason Davis (30:00):
Yeah, I think you're right. And as you well
know, it only takes 3% to changethe world. So I think last
question. And last topic, Ithink that you really nailed it
before, you know, you're veryvocal about your faith. And I
think really, that's wherethat's where the rubber meets
the road in this battle, thiscountry, you know, largely has
(30:21):
turned its back on God. And Ithink, until we go back to God,
we're gonna have some seriousproblems.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (30:29):
I agree, you know, our country's constitution
and everything about it. Andeven the hearts of our founding
fathers was formed with theawareness of who God is. Maybe
they weren't all strongChristians, or whatever, but
they did recognize who God is.
And I believe God is who He saysHe is, I believe that I need him
to have a moral compass in life,to have a sense of virtue.
(30:53):
Without him. And without hisideals, I would have no remedy
of right or wrong, which is whypeople today are pushing his
name and pushing it away frommainstream, because, you know,
God represents truth, and godlyprinciples, work for even not an
ungodly people, which is thebeauty of America. Not everybody
(31:14):
in America is Christ centered orGod centric. But if we will
understand who God is Jason onceagain, and acknowledge Him as
the creator of everything andrealize that we all have a
choice. And one of the greatestgifts God's given us is our
ability to choose just to say,you know, I can choose to, you
(31:35):
know, eat a french fry, or I canchoose the kingdom fuel, I can
choose to walk in a bar in frontof a bus, or I can choose to
wait on the bus to go by, I canchoose to do something dumb, or
I can choose to do somethingsmart. It's a choice. I can
choose to follow theConstitution or not, I can
choose to break the law or not.
(31:56):
That's the beauty of who God is.
Right? It's the beauty of yourcountry. And if we can get this
back together, I think we have achance. Because there's more.
There's so many millions ofpeople here, and the 10s of
millions of people that believeand hold on to the things I just
talked about, and we're talkingabout. They do. And I believe
it's the majority, but they'vebeen silenced. They've been
(32:20):
apathetic, too darn long, andit's time for them to step up,
speak up and be heard again.
There's a time to sit on yourbutt. And there's a time to
stand. There's a time to besilent. And there's a time to
speak. There's a time to bewhispering and there's a time to
(32:41):
shout.
Jason Davis (32:42):
There's a season for everything. Yes, yeah.
Ecclesiastes
Dr. Mark Sherwood (32:45):
four. We got to be ready for all of it right
now.
Jason Davis (32:48):
That's right. Well, I totally agree. Author,
filmmaker police officer,naturopathic doctor, Mark
Sherwood, thank you for beinghere. God bless you.
Dr. Mark Sherwood (33:02):
God bless you, Jason. Thanks for having
me, man.
Jason Davis (33:05):
Anytime.
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