January 27, 2025 • 19 mins
Here's what I have planned for 2025, but also, we need to talk about the state of many aspiring developers out there right now...
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Don Hansen (00:00):
Hello, happy 2025.
I hope it's going well for you.
In this video I want to goahead and just share how it's
going for me and what we'regoing to be doing with the
channel, probably talking likenear future.
But I created a couple videoswhere I kind of just shared
things that I was kind offailing at and what I was trying
(00:23):
to improve, and I stopped doingthat.
It was monthly videos and Irealized, honestly, I just
didn't want to do monthly videos, that's it.
But I think one video perquarter makes sense and I want
to just try to be transparentand share things I'm trying to
improve with right, because ifyou watch my content long enough
, I'm all about just keepingthat forward momentum going and
(00:46):
finding yourself being a betterversion of yourself and always
striving to do something more.
All right, so I'm going toshare my path with that streams.
You've probably been seeing thatI've been really enjoying going
through bootdev For years withthis channel and helping other
(01:10):
developers.
You know land that firstposition.
I didn't care that much aboutbecoming a better software
engineer, and even my last devposition I wasn't focused on
being a good software engineer.
I was focused on being a goodenough software engineer to
build any application that Iwanted.
I didn't really envision megoing deep into this profession.
(01:33):
I didn't envision me being thisincredible senior software
engineer that just is incrediblyhungry to learn everything
about the programming industry.
And at some point in 2024, thatswitch flipped.
I don't know why I honestly donot know why, but it flipped and
(01:58):
I was thinking about it.
A lot Coding is going to be inmy life for a very long time and
I'm realizing that now, andanything that I am going to
maintain in my life it's just mypersonality to be really good
at it and just continue makingthat forward momentum.
So 2025 is about me decidingthat I actually want to be a
(02:25):
good software engineer and seehow deep we can go with this
right, because I don't think I'mthat good of a software
engineer.
I could build a lot ofapplications that I want to
build, but I kind of sat on thefront end side, kind of like at
a low mid-level, maybe startingto get into a little bit more of
a solid mid-level, but I didn'treally challenge myself and I
(02:49):
just have a new hunger for itand so I'm trying to live stream
that more and share that withyou guys so you could see my
personality, my learning styleand I'm trying to be as honest
and transparent about that aspossible.
But it's fun.
I want to code, I want to be abetter software engineer.
(03:10):
It's fun again.
But I think part of that isbecause the last six years and I
talked about this a little bityou know I was drinking too much
, um, and then when I drink Iwould eat, I would crappy food
and then I'd build more badhabits with that and, to be
frank, I was getting into somereally unhealthy relationships
(03:31):
and I wasn't.
I didn't see it like that, Iwas kind of just like getting by
and I don't think I was thathappy.
To be honest.
I don't think I was that happy,to be honest.
I think I kind of just got intoa bit of a rut.
I've always been like anincredibly optimistic, high
(03:54):
motivation person who was verygrounded and happy and just like
charismatic, and I kind of feellike the alcohol suppressed
that a bit.
I don't want to make it seemlike I was drinking every day,
but with drinking once everyweek or once every two weeks or
something like that and I drinkquite a bit with friends it just
built other bad habits.
(04:14):
I just compound so much with itthat felt like it changed me
entirely as a person, entirelyas a person.
And this month of like, becauseI made a commitment I'm not
going to be drinking all of 2025just to see what happens this
month, I feel like I can seeagain and I I've ended some
(04:38):
toxic relationships.
I feel like I can kind of justlike feel like myself again, and
I think it's going to take alot of months of like really
destroying a lot of these badhabits, but I really like the
direction things are going andI'm excited for it.
Um, and I don't have any urges.
Like I said, I talk aboutalcohol.
(04:58):
I don't want to make it seemlike I'm like I'm on the same
level as, like people who are,like, truly struggling with this
, because it it does come easierto me to kind of like just put
it aside or give it up for lintor stuff like that.
Um, so I do know, like somepeople that really struggle with
it.
You know it can take a lot moreeffort, you need a lot more
help, and that is completelyfine.
But just, I try to talk aboutthe relationship I've had with
(05:21):
alcohol and it's only had anegative effect and it's built
up really toxic relationshipsthat I'm starting to toss out of
my life and I think it's onlygoing to get better way better
going into 2025, because thatwas probably a habit I had for
about six years.
It's crazy to think how longthat lasted.
But I'm feeling pretty good andI'm working out like every day
(05:44):
and I have to force myself notto work out.
I have to force myself to liketake days off and I think I have
been pushing it a little bittoo hard and you know we'll back
off a little bit but I'm happyabout that.
Like I I feel kind of like atiny bit anxious when I don't
get to go to the gym becauseit's like my reward for the day
right.
And then when I know my body'staxed and I'm like I shouldn't
(06:06):
go, it kind of sucks and I'llget over it.
I'll take a rest day and I needthose.
But I'm addicted to the gymagain.
I'm addicted to payingattention to what goes into my
body again and I feel likeslowly I'm just building up good
habits again because I know howI used to be and I am far from
that.
It might take a whole year toget back to like where I was,
(06:31):
especially in Chicago.
I was in a very good place,very grounded in Chicago.
So I'm just looking forward to2025.
I'm healthier and I think it'saffecting everything else in my
life, but I'll update you in afew months and tell you how it's
going.
But also a couple things thatare kind of coming up I want to
(06:52):
talk about.
I Kind of tossed the jobhunting course to the side
because I had about like an hourand 15 minutes worth of content
and I just I felt impostersyndrome with it.
I'm like man, if I release this, I don't feel like it's going
(07:16):
to reflect very well for me,like what happens if it doesn't
help people get jobs.
And one thing I realized is Ican't guarantee jobs and fuck
the coding bootcamp industryforever guaranteeing that.
It was such a twisted marketingthing.
But I can be confident in theadvice that I give and I can
also, again, as the vision'sclearing, I can see this stuff.
(07:39):
But I can confidently say thathour and 15 minutes worth of the
course that I built it didn'tgo deep enough.
It didn't go deep enough likethere is so much more that I
need to flush out in this courseto make me feel really good
about it.
Um and again, I've talked aboutthis in my live streams.
(08:00):
But you know having thatconversation with lane and he's
like the world doesn't need morecourses.
If you're going to buildanother course, make it
incredibly unique and impactful.
And what did he?
I always butcher this.
It's like the purple.
It's not the purple elephant, Ialways say the purple elephant.
But he talked about a bookcalled purple, purple cow,
(08:22):
purple cow, I think that's whatit is.
But he talked about a book andcorrect me if I'm wrong purple
cow of like, and I want to readit.
But the idea was like, if I'mreally going to build this out
and I do think I can build abetter job hunting course than
anyone else's built I have beenliterally focused on this for
(08:43):
seven years, working directlyone on one with junior
developers.
I have coding boot camps, tryingto outsource my services to
help their students.
I'm really good at that when Ican sit down for a long period
of time and work one-on-one withsomeone and really dig into
their situation.
(09:04):
But there's so much to it andthere's so many different
avenues you can go down thatreally line you up with your
previous industry and the typesof problems you want to solve,
and there's just a lot of detailthat even coding boot camps
that will develop career servicecourses or job hunting courses
barely touch and barely diveinto.
I have so much to say aboutthat and I'm going to put it all
(09:28):
into a course and I'm finallyflushing that out.
I feel good about that and I'mgoing to put it all into a
course and I'm finally fleshingthat out.
I feel good about it.
It's going to take a bit.
I don't have a launch date withit, but I'm feeling much better
about building the coursecontent out.
I'm feeling good about chargingmoney for this Because I am
trying to build something uniquethat is going to again.
(09:53):
The goal is to build the bestjob hunting course there ever
was.
That that is my goal and Ithink I can do that.
Given the seven years that I'vehighly focused on this, I think
I can do it and I'll iterate.
The first version won't be thebest and I'll iterate, but I'm
(10:14):
excited for that and so I'mbuilding that out.
I've kind of touched on that alittle bit, so I'll keep you
guys up to date as it does getcloser.
But also I'm going to bepushing out more content and as
my mind starts to clear up thisno bullshit persona that I've
(10:38):
had it's never been a personait's going to get.
The intensity of it is going toget much higher.
I promise you that that becausethat is my typical self.
I'm a very no bullshit guy.
I hate victimhood.
I don't surround myself withpeople that always blame
external circumstances.
(10:59):
I never have, and that was partof the problem.
Over the past five years ofbuilding this business, I just
surrounded myself with peoplethat always were just like why
me?
They were those, why me?
People and I just never get abreak.
And but then when you look attheir actions, you talk.
They don't want to talk abouttheir actions.
No, no, no.
It's like what happened to them.
Listen to me.
Let me tell you what happenedto me.
(11:20):
I've never surrounded myselfwith these people and for some
reason probably because of thealcohol, probably because of the
bad habits I just did it'sprobably what sucked the energy
out of me.
It's probably what sucked thelife out of me.
But I have a lot to say forself-taught developers and I've
(11:47):
created some videos in the pastthat have been very candid and I
think if I've triggered youwith some of those previous
videos.
I think there are some peoplethat are really not going to
like what I have to say, but Ithink the people that actually
want to become a good softwareengineer and that are humble
enough to be able to checkthemselves on a lot of the shit
(12:09):
they're letting themselves getaway with, I think they're going
to find it really valuable.
I think we're going to triggersome more people going into 2025
.
But I'm starting to see a lotof self-taught developers that
are giving up.
A lot of self-taught developersthat never really put their
(12:30):
full effort into it too.
A lot of self-taught developersthat convinced themselves that
the market just didn't want them.
The market just doesn't wantyou and your developers and for
you guys, you couldn't be morewrong about that as other
(12:52):
aspiring developers continue toget jobs.
What are you fucking up toprevent you from even getting
legitimate interviews?
It's a hard question to ask anda lot of people don't want to
challenge themselves with it,but a lot of my content not all
of it, but a lot of my contentis going to be focused on like
(13:15):
really calling out a lot of thelies that you've been telling
yourself, a lot of the badhabits that you've built, that
you aren't willing toacknowledge, aren't willing to
acknowledge a lot of the lack ofconsistency, a lot of the
excuses of you being anintrovert, which has limited
(13:36):
your social skills and yournetworking ability.
A lot of your laziness withresearch.
A lot of your laziness withbecoming a better software
engineer and constantly,constantly learning and being
critical of what you know, tochallenge yourself, to keep
(13:58):
diving deeper.
A lot of you are giving up.
Good, let people who actuallyare serious about this stand a
fighting chance, because all youare doing to people you know if
(14:18):
you're half-assing it.
You know you're just spammingapplications to random companies
.
You know you're not reallyprepared for it.
All you are doing when youaren't taking your journey
seriously, is just flooding themarket, making it harder for
good software engineers thatactually care about becoming a
better software engineer whowant this.
(14:40):
You're just making it harderfor employers to find them.
So, a lot of the people that aregiving up.
I know this isn't going to sitwell with a lot of the people
that are giving up.
I know this isn't going to sitwell with a lot of people, but
good, get out of the way and letthe people that actually want
(15:03):
it aim for that job, but for thepeople that are giving up, I do
want to say something and Ithink you need to be real with
yourselves.
Okay, a lot of you are probablynot going to like the industry.
You probably don't enjoy codingenough.
There are so many things thatyou need to break down in
(15:23):
yourself to be a good softwareengineer and I don't think
you're ready for it.
It takes a lot of humility.
You're going to feel stupidvery often.
Your ego is going to bechallenged all the time, and
software engineering is a verystressful job for most people.
(15:46):
Software engineers make a highimpact on most companies,
especially tech companies, andthere is a lot of pressure,
usually coming from deadlines,usually coming from other
departments not owning their ownshit and blaming software
engineers.
But also, you know, sometimessoftware engineers just fuck up
(16:07):
and it's costly for the companyand to own that with the risk of
your job is a really difficultthing to do.
It is not an easy industry.
A lot of you want it to be.
You were told it was.
It's a very stressful positionand people that have been in the
industry for a long time thereare a lot of them that are tired
(16:31):
of it and they'll eventuallyquit.
A lot of people rotate out, butit's a high stress position it
is.
You really have to love coding.
You really have to love theproblems that you're solving.
You really have to be apassionate learner for the rest
of your life.
(16:51):
You are a student for the restof your life.
That schooling that you got soexcited to get out of high
school, college, all of thoseyears that is for the rest of
your life as a software engineer.
So you need to take that ideaof just learning just enough to
(17:23):
get that job and then boom, okay, now I can take it easy.
I kind of learn how to job alittle bit.
No, no, no, no, no.
Good software engineers realizeand sometimes that hits them
hard if they want to stay up todate in the market, especially
as AI will get better that thatlearning will never end.
You are going to school for therest of your life.
And if you can't accept that,or as long as you're in the
(17:45):
industry, but if you can'taccept that, you're going into
the wrong field and for peoplegiving up and they just want to
blame the market.
Or sometimes you know lifecircumstances happen or you
realize it's not for you.
Those are legitimate reasonsfor you guys.
There are other areas in tech.
Look into them.
(18:07):
Look in the day to life videosand try to find people that you
trust YouTubers that you cantrust a little bit to give you a
transparent story.
Look into other areas of techYouTubers that you can trust a
little bit to give you atransparent story.
Look into other areas of tech.
Not everyone needs to be asoftware engineer and way too
many people put it on a pedestaland I promise you that is.
A lot of people and I did, anda lot of other people had a
(18:28):
dreamy vision of what it waslike to be a software engineer
before you're in the industry.
It's not all it's cracked up tobe, and you might find other
opportunities in tech that youactually get excited about.
You wake up and you want tolearn, you want to get better at
your craft and when you startloving growing at that craft and
(18:54):
getting better and better andbetter, you become a very
different person from that.
But you also know like I mighthave found something that really
sits well with me, that isperfect for my personality or
(19:14):
that excites me, that fulfillsme For a lot of you.
I know you've been forcing yourway through coding and it
doesn't really fulfill you.
It's okay to give up and that'smy message to you.
That might be controversial, Idon't care.
I have a lot of controversialmessages for you going into 2025
.
And we're going to have a very,very honest conversation.
That's all I have for now.
(19:39):
Thanks for listening.
Hello, happy 2025.
I hope it's going well for you.
In this video I want to goahead and just share how it's
going for me and what we'regoing to be doing with the
channel, probably talking likenear future.
But I created a couple videoswhere I kind of just shared
things that I was kind offailing at and what I was trying
(00:23):
to improve, and I stopped doingthat.
It was monthly videos and Irealized, honestly, I just
didn't want to do monthly videos, that's it.
But I think one video perquarter makes sense and I want
to just try to be transparentand share things I'm trying to
improve with right, because ifyou watch my content long enough
, I'm all about just keepingthat forward momentum going and
(00:46):
finding yourself being a betterversion of yourself and always
striving to do something more.
All right, so I'm going toshare my path with that streams.
You've probably been seeing thatI've been really enjoying going
through bootdev For years withthis channel and helping other
(01:10):
developers.
You know land that firstposition.
I didn't care that much aboutbecoming a better software
engineer, and even my last devposition I wasn't focused on
being a good software engineer.
I was focused on being a goodenough software engineer to
build any application that Iwanted.
I didn't really envision megoing deep into this profession.
(01:33):
I didn't envision me being thisincredible senior software
engineer that just is incrediblyhungry to learn everything
about the programming industry.
And at some point in 2024, thatswitch flipped.
I don't know why I honestly donot know why, but it flipped and
(01:58):
I was thinking about it.
A lot Coding is going to be inmy life for a very long time and
I'm realizing that now, andanything that I am going to
maintain in my life it's just mypersonality to be really good
at it and just continue makingthat forward momentum.
So 2025 is about me decidingthat I actually want to be a
(02:25):
good software engineer and seehow deep we can go with this
right, because I don't think I'mthat good of a software
engineer.
I could build a lot ofapplications that I want to
build, but I kind of sat on thefront end side, kind of like at
a low mid-level, maybe startingto get into a little bit more of
a solid mid-level, but I didn'treally challenge myself and I
(02:49):
just have a new hunger for itand so I'm trying to live stream
that more and share that withyou guys so you could see my
personality, my learning styleand I'm trying to be as honest
and transparent about that aspossible.
But it's fun.
I want to code, I want to be abetter software engineer.
(03:10):
It's fun again.
But I think part of that isbecause the last six years and I
talked about this a little bityou know I was drinking too much
, um, and then when I drink Iwould eat, I would crappy food
and then I'd build more badhabits with that and, to be
frank, I was getting into somereally unhealthy relationships
(03:31):
and I wasn't.
I didn't see it like that, Iwas kind of just like getting by
and I don't think I was thathappy.
To be honest.
I don't think I was that happy,to be honest.
I think I kind of just got intoa bit of a rut.
I've always been like anincredibly optimistic, high
(03:54):
motivation person who was verygrounded and happy and just like
charismatic, and I kind of feellike the alcohol suppressed
that a bit.
I don't want to make it seemlike I was drinking every day,
but with drinking once everyweek or once every two weeks or
something like that and I drinkquite a bit with friends it just
built other bad habits.
(04:14):
I just compound so much with itthat felt like it changed me
entirely as a person, entirelyas a person.
And this month of like, becauseI made a commitment I'm not
going to be drinking all of 2025just to see what happens this
month, I feel like I can seeagain and I I've ended some
(04:38):
toxic relationships.
I feel like I can kind of justlike feel like myself again, and
I think it's going to take alot of months of like really
destroying a lot of these badhabits, but I really like the
direction things are going andI'm excited for it.
Um, and I don't have any urges.
Like I said, I talk aboutalcohol.
(04:58):
I don't want to make it seemlike I'm like I'm on the same
level as, like people who are,like, truly struggling with this
, because it it does come easierto me to kind of like just put
it aside or give it up for lintor stuff like that.
Um, so I do know, like somepeople that really struggle with
it.
You know it can take a lot moreeffort, you need a lot more
help, and that is completelyfine.
But just, I try to talk aboutthe relationship I've had with
(05:21):
alcohol and it's only had anegative effect and it's built
up really toxic relationshipsthat I'm starting to toss out of
my life and I think it's onlygoing to get better way better
going into 2025, because thatwas probably a habit I had for
about six years.
It's crazy to think how longthat lasted.
But I'm feeling pretty good andI'm working out like every day
(05:44):
and I have to force myself notto work out.
I have to force myself to liketake days off and I think I have
been pushing it a little bittoo hard and you know we'll back
off a little bit but I'm happyabout that.
Like I I feel kind of like atiny bit anxious when I don't
get to go to the gym becauseit's like my reward for the day
right.
And then when I know my body'staxed and I'm like I shouldn't
(06:06):
go, it kind of sucks and I'llget over it.
I'll take a rest day and I needthose.
But I'm addicted to the gymagain.
I'm addicted to payingattention to what goes into my
body again and I feel likeslowly I'm just building up good
habits again because I know howI used to be and I am far from
that.
It might take a whole year toget back to like where I was,
(06:31):
especially in Chicago.
I was in a very good place,very grounded in Chicago.
So I'm just looking forward to2025.
I'm healthier and I think it'saffecting everything else in my
life, but I'll update you in afew months and tell you how it's
going.
But also a couple things thatare kind of coming up I want to
(06:52):
talk about.
I Kind of tossed the jobhunting course to the side
because I had about like an hourand 15 minutes worth of content
and I just I felt impostersyndrome with it.
I'm like man, if I release this, I don't feel like it's going
(07:16):
to reflect very well for me,like what happens if it doesn't
help people get jobs.
And one thing I realized is Ican't guarantee jobs and fuck
the coding bootcamp industryforever guaranteeing that.
It was such a twisted marketingthing.
But I can be confident in theadvice that I give and I can
also, again, as the vision'sclearing, I can see this stuff.
(07:39):
But I can confidently say thathour and 15 minutes worth of the
course that I built it didn'tgo deep enough.
It didn't go deep enough likethere is so much more that I
need to flush out in this courseto make me feel really good
about it.
Um and again, I've talked aboutthis in my live streams.
(08:00):
But you know having thatconversation with lane and he's
like the world doesn't need morecourses.
If you're going to buildanother course, make it
incredibly unique and impactful.
And what did he?
I always butcher this.
It's like the purple.
It's not the purple elephant, Ialways say the purple elephant.
But he talked about a bookcalled purple, purple cow,
(08:22):
purple cow, I think that's whatit is.
But he talked about a book andcorrect me if I'm wrong purple
cow of like, and I want to readit.
But the idea was like, if I'mreally going to build this out
and I do think I can build abetter job hunting course than
anyone else's built I have beenliterally focused on this for
(08:43):
seven years, working directlyone on one with junior
developers.
I have coding boot camps, tryingto outsource my services to
help their students.
I'm really good at that when Ican sit down for a long period
of time and work one-on-one withsomeone and really dig into
their situation.
(09:04):
But there's so much to it andthere's so many different
avenues you can go down thatreally line you up with your
previous industry and the typesof problems you want to solve,
and there's just a lot of detailthat even coding boot camps
that will develop career servicecourses or job hunting courses
barely touch and barely diveinto.
I have so much to say aboutthat and I'm going to put it all
(09:28):
into a course and I'm finallyflushing that out.
I feel good about that and I'mgoing to put it all into a
course and I'm finally fleshingthat out.
I feel good about it.
It's going to take a bit.
I don't have a launch date withit, but I'm feeling much better
about building the coursecontent out.
I'm feeling good about chargingmoney for this Because I am
trying to build something uniquethat is going to again.
(09:53):
The goal is to build the bestjob hunting course there ever
was.
That that is my goal and Ithink I can do that.
Given the seven years that I'vehighly focused on this, I think
I can do it and I'll iterate.
The first version won't be thebest and I'll iterate, but I'm
(10:14):
excited for that and so I'mbuilding that out.
I've kind of touched on that alittle bit, so I'll keep you
guys up to date as it does getcloser.
But also I'm going to bepushing out more content and as
my mind starts to clear up thisno bullshit persona that I've
(10:38):
had it's never been a personait's going to get.
The intensity of it is going toget much higher.
I promise you that that becausethat is my typical self.
I'm a very no bullshit guy.
I hate victimhood.
I don't surround myself withpeople that always blame
external circumstances.
(10:59):
I never have, and that was partof the problem.
Over the past five years ofbuilding this business, I just
surrounded myself with peoplethat always were just like why
me?
They were those, why me?
People and I just never get abreak.
And but then when you look attheir actions, you talk.
They don't want to talk abouttheir actions.
No, no, no.
It's like what happened to them.
Listen to me.
Let me tell you what happenedto me.
(11:20):
I've never surrounded myselfwith these people and for some
reason probably because of thealcohol, probably because of the
bad habits I just did it'sprobably what sucked the energy
out of me.
It's probably what sucked thelife out of me.
But I have a lot to say forself-taught developers and I've
(11:47):
created some videos in the pastthat have been very candid and I
think if I've triggered youwith some of those previous
videos.
I think there are some peoplethat are really not going to
like what I have to say, but Ithink the people that actually
want to become a good softwareengineer and that are humble
enough to be able to checkthemselves on a lot of the shit
(12:09):
they're letting themselves getaway with, I think they're going
to find it really valuable.
I think we're going to triggersome more people going into 2025
.
But I'm starting to see a lotof self-taught developers that
are giving up.
A lot of self-taught developersthat never really put their
(12:30):
full effort into it too.
A lot of self-taught developersthat convinced themselves that
the market just didn't want them.
The market just doesn't wantyou and your developers and for
you guys, you couldn't be morewrong about that as other
(12:52):
aspiring developers continue toget jobs.
What are you fucking up toprevent you from even getting
legitimate interviews?
It's a hard question to ask anda lot of people don't want to
challenge themselves with it,but a lot of my content not all
of it, but a lot of my contentis going to be focused on like
(13:15):
really calling out a lot of thelies that you've been telling
yourself, a lot of the badhabits that you've built, that
you aren't willing toacknowledge, aren't willing to
acknowledge a lot of the lack ofconsistency, a lot of the
excuses of you being anintrovert, which has limited
(13:36):
your social skills and yournetworking ability.
A lot of your laziness withresearch.
A lot of your laziness withbecoming a better software
engineer and constantly,constantly learning and being
critical of what you know, tochallenge yourself, to keep
(13:58):
diving deeper.
A lot of you are giving up.
Good, let people who actuallyare serious about this stand a
fighting chance, because all youare doing to people you know if
(14:18):
you're half-assing it.
You know you're just spammingapplications to random companies
.
You know you're not reallyprepared for it.
All you are doing when youaren't taking your journey
seriously, is just flooding themarket, making it harder for
good software engineers thatactually care about becoming a
better software engineer whowant this.
(14:40):
You're just making it harderfor employers to find them.
So, a lot of the people that aregiving up.
I know this isn't going to sitwell with a lot of the people
that are giving up.
I know this isn't going to sitwell with a lot of people, but
good, get out of the way and letthe people that actually want
(15:03):
it aim for that job, but for thepeople that are giving up, I do
want to say something and Ithink you need to be real with
yourselves.
Okay, a lot of you are probablynot going to like the industry.
You probably don't enjoy codingenough.
There are so many things thatyou need to break down in
(15:23):
yourself to be a good softwareengineer and I don't think
you're ready for it.
It takes a lot of humility.
You're going to feel stupidvery often.
Your ego is going to bechallenged all the time, and
software engineering is a verystressful job for most people.
(15:46):
Software engineers make a highimpact on most companies,
especially tech companies, andthere is a lot of pressure,
usually coming from deadlines,usually coming from other
departments not owning their ownshit and blaming software
engineers.
But also, you know, sometimessoftware engineers just fuck up
(16:07):
and it's costly for the companyand to own that with the risk of
your job is a really difficultthing to do.
It is not an easy industry.
A lot of you want it to be.
You were told it was.
It's a very stressful positionand people that have been in the
industry for a long time thereare a lot of them that are tired
(16:31):
of it and they'll eventuallyquit.
A lot of people rotate out, butit's a high stress position it
is.
You really have to love coding.
You really have to love theproblems that you're solving.
You really have to be apassionate learner for the rest
of your life.
(16:51):
You are a student for the restof your life.
That schooling that you got soexcited to get out of high
school, college, all of thoseyears that is for the rest of
your life as a software engineer.
So you need to take that ideaof just learning just enough to
(17:23):
get that job and then boom, okay, now I can take it easy.
I kind of learn how to job alittle bit.
No, no, no, no, no.
Good software engineers realizeand sometimes that hits them
hard if they want to stay up todate in the market, especially
as AI will get better that thatlearning will never end.
You are going to school for therest of your life.
And if you can't accept that,or as long as you're in the
(17:45):
industry, but if you can'taccept that, you're going into
the wrong field and for peoplegiving up and they just want to
blame the market.
Or sometimes you know lifecircumstances happen or you
realize it's not for you.
Those are legitimate reasonsfor you guys.
There are other areas in tech.
Look into them.
(18:07):
Look in the day to life videosand try to find people that you
trust YouTubers that you cantrust a little bit to give you a
transparent story.
Look into other areas of techYouTubers that you can trust a
little bit to give you atransparent story.
Look into other areas of tech.
Not everyone needs to be asoftware engineer and way too
many people put it on a pedestaland I promise you that is.
A lot of people and I did, anda lot of other people had a
(18:28):
dreamy vision of what it waslike to be a software engineer
before you're in the industry.
It's not all it's cracked up tobe, and you might find other
opportunities in tech that youactually get excited about.
You wake up and you want tolearn, you want to get better at
your craft and when you startloving growing at that craft and
(18:54):
getting better and better andbetter, you become a very
different person from that.
But you also know like I mighthave found something that really
sits well with me, that isperfect for my personality or
(19:14):
that excites me, that fulfillsme For a lot of you.
I know you've been forcing yourway through coding and it
doesn't really fulfill you.
It's okay to give up and that'smy message to you.
That might be controversial, Idon't care.
I have a lot of controversialmessages for you going into 2025
.
And we're going to have a very,very honest conversation.
That's all I have for now.
(19:39):
Thanks for listening.
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