June 4, 2025 • 59 mins
What if everything you thought you wanted left you feeling empty inside? Tyler Cerny, an international keynote speaker who travels globally teaching students, athletes, and professionals how to align with their God-given purpose, shares exactly this experience on today's profound episode.
Tyler opens up about reaching what many would consider the pinnacle of success - financial prosperity, an enviable lifestyle, and great relationships - only to wake up one morning feeling completely hollow. This pivotal moment led him to a transformative realization: the Lord was in his life, but only when convenient. The difference between being interested versus committed to spiritual growth became the turning point that changed everything.
Through powerful biblical insights, particularly John 15's metaphor of the vine and branches, Tyler explains how human effort combines with divine assistance in a beautiful partnership. Some days we show up at 70% capacity and God meets us the remaining 30%, while other times we barely manage 0.01% and need God to carry us 99.99% of the way. This balanced perspective acknowledges both our responsibility and limitations while offering tremendous hope.
The conversation explores practical approaches to integrating faith into business, finding your unique purpose, and winning each day with intentional habits. Tyler breaks down the concept of purpose etymologically and practically, providing a framework anyone can apply: identify who you're serving, what problems you're solving, and how you're uniquely equipped to solve them. His insights on sacrifice, discipline, and the fruits of spiritual growth offer both challenge and encouragement for listeners at any stage of their journey.
Whether you're questioning your path, seeking deeper meaning in your work, or simply curious about merging faith with everyday life, this conversation will inspire you to look beyond worldly measures of success toward something infinitely more fulfilling. Connect with Tyler on LinkedIn or Instagram @TylerDCerny to continue the conversation about purpose-driven living.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on
another episode of the DorsiRossshow.
Today we have a special guestwith us.
His name is Tyler Cerny.
He is an international andaward-winning keynote speaker
who travels around the worldteaching students, athletes and
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young professionals and businessowners how to align themselves
with the life, with their livesand God's giving purpose.
Tyler, thank you so much forcoming on the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Amen, absolutely, george.
It's always a pleasure to seeyou, man.
You inspire me every dayGrateful to be here and grateful
to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Thank you, Tyler.
I greatly appreciate that Openup with a few lighthearted
questions, and the first one iswhat has been going on in your
life recently that you expectedand didn't expect.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's a great question, man.
We'll keep it light and deep atthe same time.
Man, what's going on insomething that I've expected and
didn't expect?
One of the things that I wasthinking about and praying to
the Lord before I got on thiscall, Dorsey, is how much
sacrifice is needed to be aChristian right.
Because, if you think about it,a lot of people when you first
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start in your spiritual walk,you're like, hey, I want to be a
Christian right.
Because, if you think about it,a lot of people when you first
start in your spiritual walk,you're like, hey, I want to be
saved, I want to go to heaven, Idon't want to go to, you know,
it's like all the consequenceswe want to avoid, right, and
it's a very you know what's init for us.
And it's like, hey, we havethis amazing partner with the
Lord, point where it's like,okay, we want to follow Christ,
we want to be a devout Christian.
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Well, what does that take?
And that takes a lot on oursacrifice, discipline and
obedience that we typically, youknow, kind of overlook.
And there's this thing that Isaw and I kind of made it my own
.
But, you know, whenever werestart something, right,
whether it's reading a book,whether it's reading the Bible.
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You know, there's certainpassages that I remember.
I'm on the seventh or eighthtime through the Bible and I
remember reading certainpassages and they just go right
over my head.
I don't really understand them,but whether you start lifting
weights, start reading a book,start doing something new, you
have this delusional optimismfor the future.
You're like, hey, this is goingto be the greatest and best
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thing ever.
And then, once you start to getinto it, then you become like
an uninformed pessimist, whereyou just kind of like, man, this
is a lot harder than I thought,I don't really know what I got
myself into.
And then, if we continue thejourney, we're then going to
become informed pessimists whereit's like, okay, I know this
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journey is hard, I know what Ineed to do every single day to
stay consistent to achieve theoutcome.
And in the final stage, if wedon't give up and quit, we
become informed optimists.
It's like, hey, we finallystart bearing fruits in our
lives and we start getting theresults that we started our
initial journey on.
Whatever that looks like ourfitness journey, our spiritual
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journey, our business journey,whatever that looks like.
It's like how many people havegiven up right before they see
the breakthrough.
And so you know.
Your question is you know what'ssomething that I expected but
also didn't expect is I expectedthe Lord to move this past year
and moving forward, but Ididn't expect the amount of
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sacrifice and obedience anddiscipline that is needed to be
a Christian every single day.
And I think that's the power offaith and Christianity, and
believing is that we don't haveto do it all ourselves.
And I always tell people thisthere's some days we'll all show
up 70%.
The Lord's going to meet me 30%.
There's some days we'll allshow up 99.99999%, but the
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Lord's still going to have tomeet me.
The final way, and there's somepoints that I'll show up 0.01%
and the Lord's going to have tomeet me 99.99999%.
But either way we look at it,we're not whole, unless the
Lord's part of our life, and soit's just a.
You know to answer yourquestion.
To close the thought out, it'sjust the sacrifice, obedience
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and discipline is somethingthat's needed for our growth,
but it's something that takestime and only continues to get
better, as you kind of putyourselves in these situations
of discomfort and thesesituations of suffering, Because
on the other side is salvationand on the other side, is
everything that we want toachieve in our life.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and as Christians to go off of what you
said there as Christianswouldn't everything be at that
100%.
You know life, mentality, youknow expectations, whatever.
But like you said, even ifwe're at that 99%, god will help
us to get to that 100%, becausehe's all we need anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and the other thing with that is, if we try to
do it all ourselves and wedon't include the Lord, we're
always going to have a little.
We're always going to have apiece that's missing in our life
Absolutely, and especially whenyou start seeing results in
your life, in any area of life.
It's like we as human beings,and something that I always like
to remind myself.
One of my favorite verses isLuke 14, verse 11.
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It says those who humblethemselves will be exalted and
those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
And it says those who humblethemselves will be exalted and
those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
And it's just.
I still get chills sharing thatverse because I remember when I
first read that verse it smackedme up inside the head and it's
like, wow, the closer we can getthe less of us, the more we can
have the Lord in our life.
And that's something that isalways a constant reminder I
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like to share in my life andother people is that you don't
need to do it on your own andthe results that you have in
your life they're not because ofyou, they're partly because of
you, but we always have toremember and stay humble to
whose we are and who helped usto achieve the things that we
have achieved in our life.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
If you had to eat one food a day for the rest of your
life, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, that's a great question, because I love food.
I'm here in Southern Texas andI want to just only have this.
But there's this grocery storecalled H-E-B and they have these
amazing butter flour tortillas.
Man, I don't know what they do.
They're like freshly made,they're amazing.
But I like steak, so I havesome sort of steak with these
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tortillas.
I could probably eat that everyday and that's pretty much what
I do eat every day.
I also like to just eatsomething a lot of.
I like to eat a watermelon.
I can eat a lot of watermelon.
So watermelon or steaks, andbutter flour tort flower
tortilla is one of the two.
So that's probably what I'd gowith, but I'll probably go with
steak because there's moreprotein and probably more
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sustainable okay, being fromtexas, I thought you would at
least have said you know sometype of barbecue yeah, no,
that's true, I like brisket too.
There's nothing wrong with somegood brisket.
I'm originally from Cleveland,but I live here in Texas now.
But yeah, man, that's a goodquestion.
Man, I like all types of food,but barbecue is definitely up
there too.
Barbecue, sushi, steak, allthat stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Have there been a time when you went from, a time
in your life when you went fromlaughing to dealing with a
difficult challenge?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Wow, that's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, one of the thingsI always share with people is
the moment.
So to give you some backstories, so essentially I was an
athlete, hence the footballbehind me.
I played college football, gota chance to play basketball
overseas in Asia sports for mywhole life.
As I got out of that, Iconsulted.
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I got into consulting One of mymentors.
He taught me he grew and scaledSalesforce up to 100 million.
He taught me outbound salesstrategies and how he built
Salesforce to that level.
And so as a consultant, what Idid was I reached out to
organizations and companies andsaid, hey, I would love to help
you grow and scale your company.
And they would say, how much doyou charge?
And I said, hey, I don't chargeanything, but I just charge a
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percentage of each sale that wemake.
So with that it was a very lowrisk to enter, low barrier to
enter, and with that ourportfolio grew no-transcript
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relationships with beautifulwomen all the time.
That was honestly my goal andwhen I achieved that, I ended up
moving to Tampa and I got allthat.
I lived that lifestyle and Ijust remember one day waking up
and I didn't want to wake upthat morning I had this hit in
my stomach.
I'm one of those guys thatalways had the motivation,
always had the drive to workhard and be up early and then,
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all of a sudden, just thisdesire and drive just wasn't
there, no more.
One of the reasons being isthat the Lord was in my life,
but it was whenever it wasconvenient for me, and that's
something that I always tellpeople.
I always ask people when I goto a keynote.
I said what's the differencebetween someone who's committed
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or interested?
Do you know the difference,dorsey?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I would say, interested is once in a while,
you know, once in a while you'reinterested in that situation or
in that topic, or in that.
You know passion that you have,but committed to living it each
day.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Right, absolutely, man.
You know one of the ways I saythis interested is you do
whatever is convenient.
Committed is you do whatever ittakes right.
So it's like I wasn't committedto this Christianity walk,
right, and obviously we all fallshort of the glory of God, but
I was doing whatever wasconvenient for me and I remember
this.
What did change my life?
And I was like man, what ismissing.
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You know, this is everything Ithought I wanted.
You know, I had a financial, asuccessful business, had a great
lifestyle, was in great shape,great relationships, all these
things, but it was like I wasstill missing something and it
was the Lord.
It was the last piece and oneof the things that changed my
life.
And I've heard this chapterbefore and I heard this verse
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before, but I wanted to read it,but it was John 15.
You know, jesus is the truevine, I am the true grapevine
and my father is the gardener.
He cuts off every branch ofmine that doesn't produce fruit.
He prunes the branches that dobear fruit so that they will
produce even more.
You have already been prunedand purified by the message I've
given you.
Remain in me and I will remainin you, for a branch cannot
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produce fruit if it is severedfrom the vine, and you cannot be
fruitful unless you remain inme.
Yes, I am the vine, you are thebranches.
Those who remain in me and Iand them will produce much fruit
, for apart from me, you can donothing.
And that really hit home for meand that again, that was one of
those verses that just smackedme up inside the head and I
don't know if you had any ofthose specific verses in your
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spiritual walk to dor Dorsey,that just you read it and it
just gave you this whole newperspective.
But it was one of those thingswhere it's like here's the vine,
here are the branches.
If you think about the role ofbranches to a tree, if you think
about it, all the branches haveto do is stay connected to the
soil, because the moment theybreak off, they essentially
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become useless and they startdying.
But if they stay connected,what's going to start to happen?
They're going to start toflourish and start to produce
results.
I was like man at that point inmy life.
I was one of those guys thathad a gold card.
I was in the personaldevelopment.
I write my goals down every day.
I say with affirmations, allthese different things, and I'm
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like, lord, I hear you, but wegot work to do.
I have a plan right here.
I have something that I need tofocus on.
What radically shifted was thatLuke 14, verse 11, those who
humble themselves will beexalted.
Those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
I quickly got humbled and Irealized that, lord, I don't
want my plan, I want your plan.
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So what are you blessing aroundme and how can I play a small
part in that?
The thing that you're workingaround and that was probably,
you know, close to four or fiveyears ago now where that's the,
that shift I made, really madeit in my life, and now it's that
verse of the true testament.
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Like every area of my life, Istart to bear fruit, and one of
the fruits that I tell people ispeace, peace, joy, happiness,
fulfillment, and it's not thingsof this world, it's things that
only can be given through thefruits of the Holy Spirit.
And so that was something whereI was happy, got disappointed,
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and then the Lord what's cool,whoever's listening to this, the
Lord's going to meet you withwhere you're at, whatever you
did, whatever you did in thepast or whatever lifestyle
you're currently living.
The Lord can meet you withwhere you're at, and he can turn
a negative situation into apositive situation, and so
that's going to be a situationthat I was happy and then got
disappointed because I quicklyrealized that my plan was
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inferior to the Lord's plan.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What was it that made you say, hey, I need to be more
committed to Christ.
Was it a sermon you heard?
Was it something you read, orwas it just God speaking to you?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
I think it was a mixture ofthings, right.
I think it was a mixture offrustration and not being
satisfied and just having thisfeeling in my gut.
It's like I don't know whatneeds to happen, but something
needs to change right.
And then another thing is justsurrounding myself with
like-minded individuals, right,like surrounding myself with
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godly individuals, because thepeople that were on I was.
You know, I wouldn't say theywere bad people, but they were
in a similar boat.
They were just lukewarmChristians, right and and again,
we, we all fall short of theglory of God.
We all have different seasonsin our life, but in that season
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of my life I needed to be withChristians who were on fire for
the Lord, because through them Igot to see and got to build my
faith up around strongindividuals, people within the
church, within the community,and then radically changing and
shifting everything.
Man, it's like you know thesocial media that you're on, the
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music, that you're listening toeverything.
Is it adding and building andcreating life into my life or is
it, you know, taking it awayand making me feel less?
Is it making me feel anxious?
Is it leaving me with lessenergy, like really take
inventory of what I was doingand is it actually enhancing my
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life?
And you know, a mixture of allthose different things came to a
point where it's like, hey, Ineed to make a change.
And, being around it, there's amovie movie I don't know if you
got a chance to see it.
If you haven't, definitelycheck it out.
It's called the forge onnetflix.
Yeah, check it out and anyonethat's watching it's a great
movie.
It's this guy or it's this kid.
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He's like, I think, 16 year oldkid.
He's got a lot of issues.
He's, you know, he know he'sjust, he's just a teenager and
this guy takes him under hiswing and he, he basically they
call it the forge.
It's because he has a group ofmen, christian men that he
basically pours into and speaksthe word of Christ over.
His life gets radically changedin the movie and I don't want
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to give away anything, butthat's a high level of what's
possible when you can surroundyourself with people that are on
fire for the Lord.
That's what's great with socialmedia and the Internet now is
that if I don't have anyone inproximity, I mean most If you
live in the US, there's usuallya Christian church you can get
plugged into.
But even if you're not close toanything or whatever your
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situation at home, you can puton a podcast, you could put on a
video, you could put on achurch service with someone
that's filled with the HolySpirit, because the Lord can
work in a lot of different waysand the more you can surround
yourself with that, your life'sgoing to change.
And the last thing, with thatabiding in the word of Christ
every single day that absolutelychanged my life.
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When I read that verse, I waslike you know what?
I'm going to read the Bibleevery day and there's certain
days where I may read one verse.
It may be a busy day, but eversince that moment, I've never
missed a day, like I've alwaysbeen in the word of Christ.
Because one of the things thatI heard people say is you know,
just listen to the Lord, youknow hear, you know just just.
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You know communicate.
And I always I remember hearingthat and I said what does that
even mean?
What does that even mean tohear from the Lord Like is I'm
supposed to be talked to?
Well, you know, the Bible talksabout it.
In John one.
It says the Lord, the word isGod, the word was with God and
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the word is breathed by God, youknow.
So it's like.
Those are the words that theLord used vessels to share in
the Bible, and so that is aliving, breathing word that I
can pour into my life everysingle day.
Because once you start doingthat, what starts to happen is
you know, everyone knows, ispretty familiar with the Lord's
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Prayer.
You know, our Father, who artin heaven.
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as itis in heaven.
And that's the prayer is thatwhen the Lord made Garden of
Eden, there was so muchabundance, there was gold, they
had everything you needed.
And what does the enemy do?
He comes into the Garden ofEden and he deceives Adam and
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Eve and say, hey, don't you wantthis, don't you want to eat
from this fruit of this treeover here?
You guys don't have everything.
You guys are missing out onthis, and that's another thing.
It's like what are we focusing?
Are we focusing on what we'requote, unquote?
Because if we're within theword of Christ and we're fully
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on board and we submit ourselvesto the Lord, the Lord is
everything.
So we don't lack anything andthe Lord operates with absolute
excellence and abundance andprosperity, and so if we can
align ourselves with that, thenwe're going to start to bear
fruit.
And that's something I did.
I took inventory.
I said, lord, if that's true,if you're saying this, it even
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goes later on and says where isit?
I've told you these things thatyou'll be filled with joy.
This is my commandment.
And then he goes in to loveeach other, I have no longer.
He basically says later on, itsays whatever's your heart
desire, I will grant you Right.
And it's not because he'sgiving it to us because we want
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it, Like it's a genie in abottle.
It's because once our heartsdesires start to become what the
Lord desires for our life, thenthat's what starts to happen.
Right, because it's written,and that's what I would say is
abide in the word of Christ,start reading the Bible.
That's going to be your bestperson of all in the book.
If anything's going wrong,you're struggling financially,
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you're lacking happiness, you'restruggling in your
relationships, and I know I'mpreaching to the choir here too,
dorsey, but that really changedmy life because when that got
into my life, things thatweren't serving me started to
flee from my life, and I'mforever grateful, and you know
that's why I'm even here on thispodcast is to spread the good
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news too, man, and you knowthat's why I'm even here on this
podcast is to spread the goodnews too.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
man, amen.
Now you said that you playedfootball in college.
Where did you go to college andplay football and how did you
get into what you do today?
Did you study it?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Did you?
Yeah, that's a great question.
So yeah, in Cleveland, man,there's two things you play
sports or you get in trouble.
I did a little bit of both, butthe sports kept me on track.
And one of the things,basketball was always my passion
, but football I was the best atjust due to my size and stuff
like that.
And so there's a school calledJohn Carroll University.
It's a division three.
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It's funny because a lot of mycoaches ended up making it to
the NFL coaching staff.
So I don't know if you saw, butthe Houston Texans just
recently, there's a player thatshoved this coach.
I don't know, it was on theheadlines, but that coach that
he shoved was actually one of mycoaches and he was just super
intense and I could see howemotions flare up during the
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game.
But you know, football was.
You know, sports really gave mea foundation because I was held
accountable as a group oflike-minded individuals.
We had a strict schedule, so Iwas held to a schedule.
I knew exactly what I needed todo In college.
It's a full-time job.
You got to watch film.
You watch film for like an hourand a half.
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You go to class for three orfour hours, you live for an hour
and a half to two hours.
You go to practice for three tofour hours.
Next thing, you know, you knowyou got to go to sleep.
So it's like you know.
My coach said this you can onlyhave three things.
You have social life, footballand your academics.
And so that's what he said.
You can only have two out ofthe three.
If you want to do good inschool and be good at football,
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that's possible, but your sociallife is going to slap.
If you're going to have a goodsocial life, you're going to be
good at football, but youracademics are going to slap.
If you want to have a goodsocial life and good academics,
then your football is going toslap.
That's when you really got toget clear For me.
I got to a point in my lifewhere I knew I wasn't going to
the NFL.
I had to walk away from thegame.
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Eventually I decided to doubledown on business and I always
knew I wanted to go intobusiness because I didn't want
to be limited to what I couldearn and what I could provide
for my family.
So I got into business becauseI love numbers and I love
business.
I was thinking about going intoaccounting.
I saw a set and I was veryinvolved in the community and on
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campus.
I did a lot of things, but whatI did was I interviewed
accountants.
I was like, hey, how do youlike the profession?
You know, is this enjoyable,like you know?
Tell me about it, I would loveto learn more.
Almost every accountant that Iinteracted with they were either
excited to leave the professionand now they're opening up
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their own business.
They're like, hey, it was great, but now I have the opportunity
to start my own business.
I knew this one guy who boughtlike a SoulCycle.
But then the other accountantsI saw they weren't really happy
doing the accounting.
They said it was good, hey, butthey really weren't happy.
And if you look it up,accountants are actually one of
the highest suicide rates tiedto a profession.
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And so I was like man, thatdoesn't sound good.
And so then I looked into thefinance.
You know, work on Wall Street,investment banking.
I was like I like numbers,that's what I want to do.
But I just remember going intothat and a lot of individuals
were, you know, relying onsubstances like drugs and
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alcohol and making good money,but it really wasn't a healthy
lifestyle.
Again, I was like, man, I don'tthink that's the path for me
either.
So I was like, let me just gowith marketing.
Marketing is the easy businessdegree and that's my philosophy
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around it If I can help peoplemarket and sell and promote,
then I can always be valuablewithin the marketplace as well.
I got a degree in marketing.
I took a different path thanmost entrepreneurs.
I played out the full fouryears and I got to a point I did
everything right, got goodgrades, got a good job.
I got positions.
I was working in positions whenI was in college, so I started
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early, but then I realized Iwasn't able to provide for my
family and for myself at thelifestyle that I wanted.
So I ran into my mentor.
I started picking up books, Istarted going to live events and
, like I mentioned before mymentor, he helped grow and scale
Salesforce up to a hundredmillions of sales system and so
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I learned from people thatactually got out and done it and
then from there justimplemented with companies all
around the world and I've beenconsulting now for the last 12
years specifically around that.
That then led to me working withthe largest personal
development company in the world.
What they did was they broughtme in to help them grow their
sales and marketing.
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They partnered with people likeTony Robbins, grant Cardone,
gary Vee, damien, john, robertKiyosaki all these guys and even
they did stuff with DonaldTrump before he was president,
and that's when I reallyunderstood the business model of
like hey businesses.
They were making millions ofdollars in a weekend, and if I
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can help produce sales,depending on how much profit
they make, I can get paid inproportion to that, and so that
was really a concept that I ranwith and it's really served me
for the last 12 years of justhelping people grow their sales
and marketing Developing systems, processes, developing their
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sales teams, developingmarketing strategies.
It's all around scaling andgrowing the company on the front
end.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, now I think I heard that you also.
You know, along with DamonGronk, you also worked with one
of the other slots, mr Wonderful.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, Kevin O'Leary.
Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How?
What is it like working withhim?
Because on the show he seemedlike you know he's in business.
He wants to knock out everybodyelse to get that deal.
How is it business?
He wants to knock out everybodyelse to get that deal.
He's actually as wonderful ashe seems on TV.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There's a Mr Wonderful.
He's a funny guy.
I'm a big Shark Tank.
I watch a lot of Shark Tank.
One of the quotes that he saysa lot and you can even type and
you can find episodes.
He says multiple episodes.
He's very direct with thecontestants.
Right, they come up and he'slike he's like you know what you
need to do.
You take it behind the barn andshoot it.
(26:34):
He's super intense when he saysit right, you know, obviously
it's a character, it's tv and sohe has to make it interesting.
But he genuinely says thatbecause he genuinely cares about
the individuals.
And then, with the seriousnessand the business acumen, it's
his money that he's putting up.
And if you look at hisbackground, he was a finance guy
.
He was very conservative withhis money.
(26:56):
He was one of those guys thatinvested his money and it slowly
compounded and it worked forhim.
And then at a point in hiscareer later in his 50s or 60s
or however old it was when hestarted getting on the shark
tank, he then started investingin companies, which is different
than a lot of the other sharks.
Because if you look at Damon,he built FUBU.
(27:17):
He was young, young guy sellingt-shirts, built this global
brand, received funds at anearly age.
Mark Cuban had this massivetech sale.
Robert Herjavec also got intotechnology, had a massive sale.
Lori, she's still young.
She made her money through QVC,and then Barbara Corcoran.
(27:37):
Barbara Corcoran has a similarjourney, but she puts a lot of
her investments in real estate.
So he's one of those guys that'svery conservative with his
money and there's even reportsin the news headlines that he's
like if you get married, makesure you sign a prenup.
He'll say certain things likethat because that's just who he
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is.
But he he says that because hegenuinely cares about the
contestant and generally wantsto make money.
But the main focus or kevino'leary, why he's mr wonderful
is that if you do have a goodproduct or service and you can
work with him, he does bring alot of value.
But he is a shark and he's goingto make you an offer that
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obviously has his best interestsin mind and this is his own
money that he's worked decadesfor, so it's not going to be
cheap to work with him, andthat's most of the sharks as
well.
But, yeah, he's worked decadesfor, so it's not going to be
cheap to work with him, andthat's most of the sharks as
well.
But yeah, he's a good guy.
I remember talking to him onstage and behind the stage and
stuff like that.
He's the solid guy.
He's not as cutthroat as the tvshow makes it seem like yeah,
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tell me, what does it mean towin the day?
Yeah, that's a great question.
Yeah, when you're asking mebefore with, like, you know,
what did I do and what did Ichange to start building
momentum in my life.
Win the day and whatever thatlooks like.
So that's a message I like totell people win the moment, win
the day, because if I can winthe day, that's going to turn
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into winning the weeks, and if Ican win weeks that's going to
turn into winning months, and ifI can win some months I can
string together winning yearsand whatever that looks like for
you.
Maybe there's someone out therethat's an alcoholic.
For them, to win the day, theyhave to stop drinking alcohol.
Maybe that's winning the day.
For me it was making sure I getwell, rest, like eight hours of
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sleep, making sure that I readthe Bible.
For me, keeping it simple waslike that's winning the day for
me when I first started.
And obviously, as you grow andscale an organization and you do
different things and you growas an individual, you can start
adding things to that.
But winning the day is havingtwo or three things that you do
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consistently, non-negotiables,that you can just commit to,
even when you don't feel like it, not when it's convenient, but
when I commit to it, that'swinning the day.
So then I had a little journal.
I had a couple three thingswhat I needed to do for the day
get my eight hours of sleep,maybe get 30 minutes of steps in
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and then ultimately read theBible.
And if I did that, you classifywhat those things are and if
you do that you check all threeoff, you win the day, and if you
don't, you don't win the day.
So it's like if you can win theday consistently, you're going
to build momentum and thenyou're going to look back and be
like wow, because that smallmuscle of discipline and
(30:30):
consistency starts to compoundin your favor.
And then next thing you know,it's like you look back and
you're like, man, how did I getto where I am?
It's like, well, of all thework that I did every single day
, and it's the stuff that youknow.
One of my favorite quotes iswhat you do in private is what
people reward you in public.
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Is what you do in private right?
So it's like the things thatyou do when no one's watching is
what people recognize youpublicly for right and so.
But it's not like that whenyou're in the trenches and
you're working every single day,no one's watching.
It's like building a podcastman.
There's a lot of work that goesinto building a podcast and
reaching people and havingamazing conversations, and it's
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not just about getting reach andgetting more exposure.
But it takes time.
It's not something that happensovernight.
I know you've done a lot ofawesome episodes, dorsey.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you.
How do you merge business andJesus together?
I'm sorry business, and how doyou move business and Jesus
together?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm sorry, business, and what was the last word?
Jesus Christ?
Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, that's agreat question.
I think that was something thatshifted with me with the John
15 chapter.
It's like, you know, ifbusiness is a spiritual game,
has a standard of excellence ineverything about it and I just
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am not experiencing that in mybusiness then what needs to
change?
I need to start gettingalignment framed to the Lord and
literally it comes when I firststarted and even still to this
day I'm like Lord, I may nothave all the answers, you have
my mind, you have my heart, youhave my soul, you have my hands.
Everything is yours.
Like let's go win the day,let's go impact some lives,
(32:35):
let's go build something greattogether, right, and it's like
this conversation andpartnership with the Lord, and
then when you make the money andgrow your team, it has nothing
to do with you.
Obviously, you have to stayconsistent of what you need to
do for the day and be a stewardof that.
But at the end of the day,we're all dust, we're all dirt,
(33:00):
we're all going to die one day,and that's how we started.
So I'm not going to put a hugeemphasis on my losses or my
successes because I can have asteadfast steadiness and peace
and fulfillment and contentmentin my life, knowing that the
Lord is going to provide, likehe always does and he always
will.
Right, yeah, and so, yeah, howdo you integrate it?
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You know, I would say you know,how can you not?
Because here's another thingtoo, one of the things that I
got a chance to consult withorganizations.
We would help them grow andscale the sales and make a lot
of money with them, and it wasgreat.
But then it got to a point withthe CEO and the business owners
(33:44):
I was working with.
The question became how muchtime are they abiding with the
word of Christ every single day?
And if the answer is zero andI'm working and serving the CEO
and business owner, what doesthat say about me?
And I just remember it's like Ineed to be working and building
(34:04):
something for the kingdom so Idon't just work in vain, and the
Bible clearly talks about thattoo.
And if you don't have peace,you're not bearing fruit in your
life.
Then I need to look around meand say Lord, what's going on
Like?
Is it just I'm in the wrongvehicle?
I need to completely pivot, oris it.
Just I need to be more patientand stay consistent with it and
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be more disciplined, because ifyou ask those questions, the
Lord's going to instantly tellyou, because most people know
what they need to do, they'rejust not doing it.
And so, with the Lord andbusiness, it's always like Lord,
this is my plan, this is howwe're going to continue to
market the organization, this ishow we're going to scale and
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grow the organization.
This is the plan right now,lord, if there's anything else
that I missed or I'm not seeing,please let me know, because the
last thing I would want to dois do something that's out of
your plan and out of alignmentwith what you're trying and
calling me to do.
Right, and that's the levelthat it has to get to every
single day in business.
Right, it's like Lord, let'sbuild, let's build, cultivate.
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And the last thing I'll say,with that is a byproduct of all
that is the relationships in thebusiness.
Because when also and I kind oflearned this about seven years
ago, but it was justre-solidified about five years
ago, when I implemented thatburst in my life was
relationship A lot of businessesthat I consulted with were very
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transactional.
It was like hey, let's run ads,let's market the company, let's
close the deal, let's collectthe cash and do it again, and
that's great to be profitable,but if you're not developing and
cultivating the relationship,how much long-term success are
you really going to have?
And that's why you see a lot ofmarketing agencies or companies
(35:52):
on the internet that areextremely transactional.
They may have some success inthe short term, but they're no
longer around, or you may nothear about them, or they shift
or something happens.
Why?
Because they're not focusing oncultivating relationships.
And that's how the Lord is.
He wants a relationship withall of them, and if we can
cultivate a relationship withthe Lord and with ourselves,
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then we're going to be able tocultivate relationships with
everyone around us.
And if we do that, it's just amatter of time before the Lord's
going to bless you in abundanceand prosperity and give you
exactly what you need.
And it's like you know.
I'm glad you brought this up,dorsey, because one of the
(36:35):
things I also share and like totalk about is, you know, when I
consulted with otherorganizations, I would help them
grow and scale their companyand I would pray for years, say
Lord, I want my own offer, Iwant my own business and the
Lord's like I want you here.
Okay, I want you promoting thiscompany.
I want you promoting thiscompany.
I want you learning the skillsets, doing it as if it was your
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own business, because that'sanother thing.
Treat if you are in a business,if you are working for an
organization or for a company,treat it as if it's your own.
Look around you, where yourplace, at your room, your office
, everything around you Is it ata level of excellence?
Because if I can't take care of, let's say, one room, why would
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the Lord bless me with a full,entire house, acres of land?
It's like the Lord's going tobless us and meet us with what
we can handle.
If we can handle our positionat our workplace, then he's
going to give us moreresponsibility that's going to
eventually blossom into abusiness.
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Whoever's listening to this?
It's like look at what's infront of you on your plate and
do it with the highest level ofquality, as if this was your own
, as if it was for the Lord.
Don't do it for yourself, don'tdo it for others, do it for the
Lord and start to see whathappens.
And that's a very humblingprocess and that's not easy, but
if you can stay the path, stayhumble, stay disciplined, stay
consistent.
You know the Bible talks aboutit too.
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It's a furnace.
We go through a furnace.
It's this incineration periodwhere it burns the impurities
from us, from our heart, fromour mind, from our soul.
That process is a painfulprocess, but on the other side
we're going to come out a newindividual, the person that the
Lord has always called us to be.
(38:30):
And that's the final thing I'llsay with this business in Jesus
is that if you can incorporateit, it's really having core
values.
And if you have the Lordincorporated, then it doesn't
matter what industry you're in,it doesn't matter what time of
year it is, because if the Lordhas favor over you, you're going
to find a way.
If Jesus rose again three daysafter the dead from the dead,
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after three days of being dead,I think he can help you create a
profitable business.
And that same Holy Spiritthat's within Jesus is within
all of us and we have access toit through the Holy Word of the
Bible.
And so, yeah, I mean it's theonly way to do business and
that's one of the things I'mpassionate about.
And people can grab a hold ofthat and abide in the Lord, and
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that's one of the things I'mpassionate about, and people can
grab a hold of that and abidein the Lord, and if the Lord's
calling me to get into business,I'd be more than happy to
connect with anyone that hasquestions on that, because it's
absolutely changed my life andchanged my business.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, give me one second.
In the last few minutes of thisepisode, I want to talk about
purpose.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
What does purpose look like to you and how do you
find your life purpose?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Well, a couple of things wehave to understand.
What does purpose mean?
So the prefix P-U-R is setforth beforehand and pose is an
intention.
So if you just look at purposeof the word because there's my
life's purpose and purpose thoseare two different things
Purpose is set forth beforehandor the intention that's set
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forth beforehand.
So if you think about it, youknow, let's say that football
back there, the purpose is forit to be a football and play a
game with it.
That's the purpose of it, right, but now and that purpose can
shift every single day Maybe thepurpose is to run it, maybe I
can throw it, maybe I can catchit.
That purpose changes.
But what's my life's purpose?
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Why am I here on this earth?
Now, that's a higher levelthing.
So there's understanding whatmy life's purpose is and
understanding what my purpose isfor today and so.
But if you think about itthough, purpose it's the purest,
and pure P-U-R also is found inpure.
It's the purest intention setforth beforehand.
(40:42):
If you think about it, ourlife's purpose was set forth
with the purest intention beforewe were ever created.
If you think about that, wewere hand designed and
handcrafted by the creator Withthat.
I need to understand.
I need to understand that Ihave value, I have purpose and
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I'm here for a reason.
Because a lot of people don'teven believe that oh, the Lord
can't use me, I'm not smartenough, whatever thing that they
put there.
They need to understand thatthey're here for a reason.
If you look at the odds of whyyou're here, it's like one in 10
million or potentially, I don'teven know, but it's a large
number.
You're better off playing thelottery, hitting the what was it
(41:27):
?
The lotto, the super eight orsuper six, whatever it is,
because those odds are betterthan us being here.
So the fact that you're here,there's a reason.
And even for you, dorsey I mean, you inspire me every day, man
there's purpose in everythingthat you do in your life, right?
And so it's like you know, ourlife's purpose is something
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that's set forth beforehand.
And then you take it even a stepfurther and say service.
We're here to serve.
And the reason why I know thatis because we're hardwired to
serve, because when we serve anddo things for other people, or
when we serve, our brainreleases dopamine, serotonin,
(42:08):
oxytocin, all these amazingchemicals that make us feel good
.
Why?
Because we as human beings arehere to serve.
So to understand our life'spurpose at the high level this
is the macro level is we'recalled to serve.
So then the question becomes onthe micro level, what are we
serving?
Are we serving ourselves, arewe serving others or are we
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serving the creator?
There's three levels myself,others and the creator.
So then at that point,sometimes I'm in the wrong
vehicle and sometimes I'm in theright vehicle, serving the
wrong person.
So let's say I'm running abusiness, but I'm serving myself
and only myself, versus I'm inthe right business, I'm in the
right industry, I'm in the rightvehicle, but now I just need to
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shift from serving myself toserving the Lord.
And then that question becomeshey, lord, is this what I'm
truly called to do?
Am I called to do this?
And one of the things to lookat is does it give you energy?
Does it excite you?
Are you passionate about it?
Are you?
Does it bring you peace?
Are you bearing fruit?
Because what happens if you dosomething and you hate it, it's
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taken from it.
It's not bringing you peace,it's not bringing you, it takes
away from your passion.
Then it's like you're trying toput a square peg in a circle in
a circle, a hole.
It doesn't work.
And you could try to force yourway in and try to figure it out
and put it willpower over itand do it your way.
And trust me, I'm stubborn, Iknow I'm trying to do it that
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way, but that's not what you'recalled to do, because when
you're called to do something,not only will you enjoy it, you
have peace, you're going to getaccelerated results in a pretty
short period of time, like Iremember when I shot a
basketball, I just had a natural.
I would just shoot it, andobviously I wasn't the greatest
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player in the world.
But if I just practiced it forlike a couple of days, I had an
accelerated results because Iwas naturally good at it.
But things like ice skating no,ice skating is not for me.
I'm probably going to bust myneck, break my ankle.
That's something that I stayfar away from.
So it's like also having thatunderstanding of what you're
good at and what you're not goodat, because we're all designed
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differently.
Think of an animal.
Animals are good example.
Well, animals, depending on howthey're made and how they're
created, they thrive in certainenvironments and they thrive
doing other things.
So have it some.
Just like you know, if youthink about like a snail snail
just sleeps all day, staysprotected Then you got a cheetah
who actually goes out and huntsLike we're all part of the
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whole right.
It's like another way to thinkof it is like our body.
You have fingers, hands, legs,arms.
Is a thumb more important thana toe?
No, because we both need ourthumb and we need our toes right
, and they both play a purpose.
But when they're attached tothe source and to our body, they
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make us complete, and withoutit then we're missing something.
And so how to find your life'spurpose?
You got to get clear on whoyou're serving.
Am I serving myself?
Am I serving others?
Am I serving the Lord?
Now I can get clear on servingthe Lord every single day and,
like I said before, if you don'tknow what that looks like,
asking him and demanding andexpecting an answer, saying, hey
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, lord, I'm serving you.
Today I'm doing whatever I have.
My heart, my mind, my soul, myhands, all the skills that
you've given me is yours.
How can we get to work today Ifyou're just coming with that
mentality and that mindset?
What's going to start to happen?
You're going to start to findopportunities to serve the Lord
right, because the Lord'slooking for people to work.
You know, the workers are fewand the harvest is plenty.
(45:48):
One of the sayings I like to sayall are called, but few pick up
.
Only a few picked up the call.
Because we're all called hereand we all play a purpose in
this thing called life, and soit's just a matter of making
sure that we serve the Lord andin the micro it's a purpose.
It's just like.
What does that look like?
Let's say you want to loseweight, that's the goal.
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And then I start to create aplan to achieve those goals.
And then I start to create aplan to achieve those goals and
then I can start to find purposein my everyday life.
But once you get clear on that,you're serving the Lord and how
to create a purpose drivenbusiness.
Another thing is, once you foundyour purpose, now it's how do I
make money with it?
Well, how do we make money withit is who are you called to
serve, what problems are youcalled to solve and how are you
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called to solve that problem?
And what I like to do is startwith people that you can relate
with Like for me, I can relatewith athletes Help people that
are transitioning out of sports.
That's the individual.
That's where they're at intheir life.
The problem are people that arestruggling to find their life's
purpose, and then the solutionis through my books, my keynotes
(46:53):
, the purpose-driven businessesthat I build through my content
online.
It's all surrounded that, andif the problem is big enough or
the problem is experienced by alot of people, people are going
to be willing to pay you money.
And so, bigger the problem,bigger the solution, bigger the
payout.
Smaller the problem, smallerthe solution, smaller the payout
.
But if you look at all greatorganizations like, if you look
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at like Amazon, you can ordersomething and get something
shipped to your door in 24 hours.
That's pretty convenient, right, and that's a problem that the
logistics industry couldn'tsolve for the longest time.
But that's whatever customerwants.
They want to purchase somethingand they want it shipped to
their door, ideally that day,but if not today, tomorrow, and
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if you can do that, you can nowget paid on doing that.
Hopefully that gives you someinsight and once you know who
you serve, what problems yousolve and then how you call to
solve that problem, that's goingto give you a perfect statement
, your mission statement I helpblank.
I help athletes with theirproblem find their life's
purpose through blank, throughthe solution, through books,
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purpose-driven businesses,presentations, content, online.
And then you start to formulatethat and it starts to come to
love and it starts to cultivateand you start to get clearer
around the vision.
Because there's another sayingif the Lord gives you a vision,
he's not going to tell youeverything that you need to do
to achieve the vision, becauseif you understood how much work
you need to do to achieve thevision, then most people won't
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pursue their dreams and theirvision Right and so high level.
I'm serving the Lord.
Who am I serving?
That's going to give me mylife's purpose, that's, our
life's purpose is to serve oneanother and to serve the Lord.
Because if we can serve theLord, simultaneously, we're
going to be serving others andourselves.
And then, as a byproduct ofthat, we're now going to find
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something that's bigger thanourselves and we're going to
start to look around us and belike, hey, how can I serve you,
lord?
Well, how can I serve yourpeople?
How can I serve Okay?
Well, I see these people outhere struggling with this.
They have problems.
Well, what's the solution?
Let's say they're hungry.
Well, how can we get them food?
Well, I can start a restaurant.
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Well, whatever the case may be,whoever you feel drawn to, that
you see people that you canrelate to and you have a heart
for, and you see themexperiencing problems.
It's like that's how you cancreate a business, that's how
you can find your life's purpose, that's how you can serve the
Lord is.
Look around you.
Who do you tell?
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Because a lot of people in thisworld they need help.
We all need help, and so theLord saved us by the mercy and
grace of God, and so do that.
And then you can start to findproblems around you, provide
solutions, and now you can getpaid for those solutions.
Now you create a businessaround helping and serving
people and serving the Lord.
And I always tell people, ifyou partner with the creator of
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the universe, good things willstart to happen.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And it doesn't really have to be.
You know, a business you knowyour purpose doesn't necessarily
mean you have to.
You know, go into business.
You know purpose can be helpingpeople at church or helping
people Absolutely, you know youhelp your family.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
You know that purpose , that purpose, it will evolve
every day.
Man, You're like a, you're likea missionary like a, you're
like a military on deployment.
That mission changes every dayand every second Cause, you know
, let's say, like things inCalifornia, things happen, fires
, people's houses burned down.
My mission is going to change.
Right, If I'm in that situation, my mission and my purpose that
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day is going to shift tosomething else.
Right, so it's like, but at ahigh level, I'm always serving
the Lord.
So, whatever that looks likefor individuals that's listening
to this and where they're at,it's like how can I serve the
Lord today?
And that starts with, you know,taking out some sin in our life
.
Maybe it's with the peoplearound us, foreign life and the
people around us, with ourfriends and our family.
(50:54):
It could be the smallest littlething, but if we do it for the
Lord, those little things startto become big things.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, as I thought, as I, you know, thinking about
asking you these questions, asong came into my mind, and it's
the 80s Stephen Taylor ChapmanChapman song.
You know more to this life, andof course, but there's more to
this life than living and dying,more to this life than trying
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to make it through the day, moreto this life, more than the
eyes alone can see, and there'smore to this life alone can be.
Tonight he lies in silence,staring into the space and looks
for ways to make tomorrowbetter than today.
But in the morning light itlooks the same.
Life just goes on.
(51:44):
And in my thinking, what I'mtrying to, how I interpret that,
is he's saying that sometimes,when we wake up the next day, we
should go back to what we didthe day before.
We don't try to make changes tothe next day.
To make life.
(52:04):
You know more.
You know have, like you'resaying, have life a purpose each
day.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Sure, yeah, absolutely.
And yeah, man, man, we got tomake every day count.
We have to win the day it, makethe most of it, because we
don't know when that day's gonnacome, because we're all on
borrowed time, right, and it'slike that day is gonna come for
all of us, and so we have tomake it worthwhile today, right
and so, and so I agree.
(52:33):
And then also too, life isn'tyou know, you didn't even talk
about it in the Bible too, itwas, uh, you know, samuel, king
Samuel.
Life's more than just earthlypleasures, you know, like
personal gain and earthlypleasures.
And if we all can get to aplace where it's like, hey,
we're here, not because we'rewhoever it is, or it's because
(52:59):
of our own willpower, it's dueto the fact that we're a small
part into the greater whole ofthings, then life starts to
change.
You don't become the center ofthe universe, you don't become
the center of the world or yourday.
Now.
You revolve your day around theLord, and when you do that, the
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Lord does miracles.
He works miracles every singleday, and if you just are open to
receiving that and you're opento contributing to it, the
Lord's going to continue tobless you and he's going to
continue to give you opportunityto do so to continue to give
you the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Can you give us one or two Bible verses where you
see the Bible talking aboutpurpose for our lives versus
purpose in general?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, there's just one verse.
I think it's Jeremiah.
I want to say it's Jeremiah2.10.
Let me just confirm here oh,ephesians 2.10.
This is it.
I got the wrong chapter.
I'm in Jeremiah right now.
It's Ephesians 2.10, notJeremiah 2.10.
It's for we are God'sworkmanship, created in Christ
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Jesus to do good work which Godprepared in advance for us to do
.
That's like you know.
You know, for we are God'sworkmanship, created in Christ
Jesus to do good works which Godprepared in advance for us to
do.
Like we're called to do goodthings, man, like the Lord's,
handcrafted us this way.
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Another one I like is Proverbs16, verse nine.
It says the heart of man planshis way, but the Lord
establishes his steps, and sothat's another thing.
It's just like.
Again, you know I can try to doit my way, but the Lord's going
to establish our steps.
But how does he establish oursteps?
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He establishes our steps with.
You know our passions, whatexcites us, where we live, our
family, like everything aboutour lives, of who we're related
to, where we live.
You know how we act, how wethink.
You know what we like, what wedislike.
That is established.
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That's the Lord establishingour step, right, like I said
before, I'm not going to bedrawn towards ice skating
because that's not my plan.
That's not what excites me.
In fact it terrifies me.
I don't want to get injured,but those are things.
The desires of our hearts arealso going to determine our life
, and so the more that we canget invested in the Lord, the
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more we can understand his planand we can live out the purpose.
So those are some good ones.
I'll send you a couple more.
We may be posted on the bottomof the comment section.
But yeah, there's a lot of goodones, but those are some of the
few that come to my mindrecently.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
How can people, if they wanted to connect with you
and say hello and see what elseyou're up to?
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Sure, well, if you ever want to connect with me,
make sure to reach out to Doristo give him a big hug for me.
But yeah, you can find me onLinkedIn or Instagram, and those
are probably the easiest ways,or Facebook, but I would say
Instagram and LinkedIn are theeasiest.
If you just type in LinkedIn,tyler Cerny, you'll find me, and
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LinkedIn or I'm sorry,instagram, if you type in Tyler
Cerny, you'll find me too.
But my username is Tyler DCerny Diaz and Daniel, which is
my middle name, so we caninclude that and then reach out
to me on there.
Those are probably the twoeasiest ways and we can get
connected.
And if you have any questions,more than happy to help you find
purpose and get on fire for theLord, because I know the type
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of impact that's had on my life.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Well, Tyler, thank you so much for coming on the
show today.
We greatly appreciate havingyou.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Of course, man Dorsey .
It's always been a pleasure,and God bless you brother.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for
coming on and hearing thisepisode and please go and check
out Tyler and see what he's upto, and hope you are encouraged
and inspired by this episode andhopefully you'll get to know
your life purpose and know thatGod loves you and cares for you
and wants you to have a greatlife and great purpose for your
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life.
And until next time, god bless.
Bye-bye.
Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on
another episode of the DorsiRossshow.
Today we have a special guestwith us.
His name is Tyler Cerny.
He is an international andaward-winning keynote speaker
who travels around the worldteaching students, athletes and
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young professionals and businessowners how to align themselves
with the life, with their livesand God's giving purpose.
Tyler, thank you so much forcoming on the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Amen, absolutely, george.
It's always a pleasure to seeyou, man.
You inspire me every dayGrateful to be here and grateful
to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Thank you, Tyler.
I greatly appreciate that Openup with a few lighthearted
questions, and the first one iswhat has been going on in your
life recently that you expectedand didn't expect.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's a great question, man.
We'll keep it light and deep atthe same time.
Man, what's going on insomething that I've expected and
didn't expect?
One of the things that I wasthinking about and praying to
the Lord before I got on thiscall, Dorsey, is how much
sacrifice is needed to be aChristian right.
Because, if you think about it,a lot of people when you first
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start in your spiritual walk,you're like, hey, I want to be a
Christian right.
Because, if you think about it,a lot of people when you first
start in your spiritual walk,you're like, hey, I want to be
saved, I want to go to heaven, Idon't want to go to, you know,
it's like all the consequenceswe want to avoid, right, and
it's a very you know what's init for us.
And it's like, hey, we havethis amazing partner with the
Lord, point where it's like,okay, we want to follow Christ,
we want to be a devout Christian.
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Well, what does that take?
And that takes a lot on oursacrifice, discipline and
obedience that we typically, youknow, kind of overlook.
And there's this thing that Isaw and I kind of made it my own
.
But, you know, whenever werestart something, right,
whether it's reading a book,whether it's reading the Bible.
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You know, there's certainpassages that I remember.
I'm on the seventh or eighthtime through the Bible and I
remember reading certainpassages and they just go right
over my head.
I don't really understand them,but whether you start lifting
weights, start reading a book,start doing something new, you
have this delusional optimismfor the future.
You're like, hey, this is goingto be the greatest and best
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thing ever.
And then, once you start to getinto it, then you become like
an uninformed pessimist, whereyou just kind of like, man, this
is a lot harder than I thought,I don't really know what I got
myself into.
And then, if we continue thejourney, we're then going to
become informed pessimists whereit's like, okay, I know this
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journey is hard, I know what Ineed to do every single day to
stay consistent to achieve theoutcome.
And in the final stage, if wedon't give up and quit, we
become informed optimists.
It's like, hey, we finallystart bearing fruits in our
lives and we start getting theresults that we started our
initial journey on.
Whatever that looks like ourfitness journey, our spiritual
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journey, our business journey,whatever that looks like.
It's like how many people havegiven up right before they see
the breakthrough.
And so you know.
Your question is you know what'ssomething that I expected but
also didn't expect is I expectedthe Lord to move this past year
and moving forward, but Ididn't expect the amount of
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sacrifice and obedience anddiscipline that is needed to be
a Christian every single day.
And I think that's the power offaith and Christianity, and
believing is that we don't haveto do it all ourselves.
And I always tell people thisthere's some days we'll all show
up 70%.
The Lord's going to meet me 30%.
There's some days we'll allshow up 99.99999%, but the
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Lord's still going to have tomeet me.
The final way, and there's somepoints that I'll show up 0.01%
and the Lord's going to have tomeet me 99.99999%.
But either way we look at it,we're not whole, unless the
Lord's part of our life, and soit's just a.
You know to answer yourquestion.
To close the thought out, it'sjust the sacrifice, obedience
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and discipline is somethingthat's needed for our growth,
but it's something that takestime and only continues to get
better, as you kind of putyourselves in these situations
of discomfort and thesesituations of suffering, Because
on the other side is salvationand on the other side, is
everything that we want toachieve in our life.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and as Christians to go off of what you
said there as Christianswouldn't everything be at that
100%.
You know life, mentality, youknow expectations, whatever.
But like you said, even ifwe're at that 99%, god will help
us to get to that 100%, becausehe's all we need anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and the other thing with that is, if we try to
do it all ourselves and wedon't include the Lord, we're
always going to have a little.
We're always going to have apiece that's missing in our life
Absolutely, and especially whenyou start seeing results in
your life, in any area of life.
It's like we as human beings,and something that I always like
to remind myself.
One of my favorite verses isLuke 14, verse 11.
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It says those who humblethemselves will be exalted and
those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
And it says those who humblethemselves will be exalted and
those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
And it's just.
I still get chills sharing thatverse because I remember when I
first read that verse it smackedme up inside the head and it's
like, wow, the closer we can getthe less of us, the more we can
have the Lord in our life.
And that's something that isalways a constant reminder I
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like to share in my life andother people is that you don't
need to do it on your own andthe results that you have in
your life they're not because ofyou, they're partly because of
you, but we always have toremember and stay humble to
whose we are and who helped usto achieve the things that we
have achieved in our life.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
If you had to eat one food a day for the rest of your
life, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, that's a great question, because I love food.
I'm here in Southern Texas andI want to just only have this.
But there's this grocery storecalled H-E-B and they have these
amazing butter flour tortillas.
Man, I don't know what they do.
They're like freshly made,they're amazing.
But I like steak, so I havesome sort of steak with these
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tortillas.
I could probably eat that everyday and that's pretty much what
I do eat every day.
I also like to just eatsomething a lot of.
I like to eat a watermelon.
I can eat a lot of watermelon.
So watermelon or steaks, andbutter flour tort flower
tortilla is one of the two.
So that's probably what I'd gowith, but I'll probably go with
steak because there's moreprotein and probably more
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sustainable okay, being fromtexas, I thought you would at
least have said you know sometype of barbecue yeah, no,
that's true, I like brisket too.
There's nothing wrong with somegood brisket.
I'm originally from Cleveland,but I live here in Texas now.
But yeah, man, that's a goodquestion.
Man, I like all types of food,but barbecue is definitely up
there too.
Barbecue, sushi, steak, allthat stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Have there been a time when you went from, a time
in your life when you went fromlaughing to dealing with a
difficult challenge?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Wow, that's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, one of the thingsI always share with people is
the moment.
So to give you some backstories, so essentially I was an
athlete, hence the footballbehind me.
I played college football, gota chance to play basketball
overseas in Asia sports for mywhole life.
As I got out of that, Iconsulted.
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I got into consulting One of mymentors.
He taught me he grew and scaledSalesforce up to 100 million.
He taught me outbound salesstrategies and how he built
Salesforce to that level.
And so as a consultant, what Idid was I reached out to
organizations and companies andsaid, hey, I would love to help
you grow and scale your company.
And they would say, how much doyou charge?
And I said, hey, I don't chargeanything, but I just charge a
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percentage of each sale that wemake.
So with that it was a very lowrisk to enter, low barrier to
enter, and with that ourportfolio grew no-transcript
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relationships with beautifulwomen all the time.
That was honestly my goal andwhen I achieved that, I ended up
moving to Tampa and I got allthat.
I lived that lifestyle and Ijust remember one day waking up
and I didn't want to wake upthat morning I had this hit in
my stomach.
I'm one of those guys thatalways had the motivation,
always had the drive to workhard and be up early and then,
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all of a sudden, just thisdesire and drive just wasn't
there, no more.
One of the reasons being isthat the Lord was in my life,
but it was whenever it wasconvenient for me, and that's
something that I always tellpeople.
I always ask people when I goto a keynote.
I said what's the differencebetween someone who's committed
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or interested?
Do you know the difference,dorsey?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I would say, interested is once in a while,
you know, once in a while you'reinterested in that situation or
in that topic, or in that.
You know passion that you have,but committed to living it each
day.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Right, absolutely, man.
You know one of the ways I saythis interested is you do
whatever is convenient.
Committed is you do whatever ittakes right.
So it's like I wasn't committedto this Christianity walk,
right, and obviously we all fallshort of the glory of God, but
I was doing whatever wasconvenient for me and I remember
this.
What did change my life?
And I was like man, what ismissing.
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You know, this is everything Ithought I wanted.
You know, I had a financial, asuccessful business, had a great
lifestyle, was in great shape,great relationships, all these
things, but it was like I wasstill missing something and it
was the Lord.
It was the last piece and oneof the things that changed my
life.
And I've heard this chapterbefore and I heard this verse
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before, but I wanted to read it,but it was John 15.
You know, jesus is the truevine, I am the true grapevine
and my father is the gardener.
He cuts off every branch ofmine that doesn't produce fruit.
He prunes the branches that dobear fruit so that they will
produce even more.
You have already been prunedand purified by the message I've
given you.
Remain in me and I will remainin you, for a branch cannot
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produce fruit if it is severedfrom the vine, and you cannot be
fruitful unless you remain inme.
Yes, I am the vine, you are thebranches.
Those who remain in me and Iand them will produce much fruit
, for apart from me, you can donothing.
And that really hit home for meand that again, that was one of
those verses that just smackedme up inside the head and I
don't know if you had any ofthose specific verses in your
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spiritual walk to dor Dorsey,that just you read it and it
just gave you this whole newperspective.
But it was one of those thingswhere it's like here's the vine,
here are the branches.
If you think about the role ofbranches to a tree, if you think
about it, all the branches haveto do is stay connected to the
soil, because the moment theybreak off, they essentially
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become useless and they startdying.
But if they stay connected,what's going to start to happen?
They're going to start toflourish and start to produce
results.
I was like man at that point inmy life.
I was one of those guys thathad a gold card.
I was in the personaldevelopment.
I write my goals down every day.
I say with affirmations, allthese different things, and I'm
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like, lord, I hear you, but wegot work to do.
I have a plan right here.
I have something that I need tofocus on.
What radically shifted was thatLuke 14, verse 11, those who
humble themselves will beexalted.
Those who exalt themselves willbe humbled.
I quickly got humbled and Irealized that, lord, I don't
want my plan, I want your plan.
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So what are you blessing aroundme and how can I play a small
part in that?
The thing that you're workingaround and that was probably,
you know, close to four or fiveyears ago now where that's the,
that shift I made, really madeit in my life, and now it's that
verse of the true testament.
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Like every area of my life, Istart to bear fruit, and one of
the fruits that I tell people ispeace, peace, joy, happiness,
fulfillment, and it's not thingsof this world, it's things that
only can be given through thefruits of the Holy Spirit.
And so that was something whereI was happy, got disappointed,
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and then the Lord what's cool,whoever's listening to this, the
Lord's going to meet you withwhere you're at, whatever you
did, whatever you did in thepast or whatever lifestyle
you're currently living.
The Lord can meet you withwhere you're at, and he can turn
a negative situation into apositive situation, and so
that's going to be a situationthat I was happy and then got
disappointed because I quicklyrealized that my plan was
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inferior to the Lord's plan.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What was it that made you say, hey, I need to be more
committed to Christ.
Was it a sermon you heard?
Was it something you read, orwas it just God speaking to you?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
I think it was a mixture ofthings, right.
I think it was a mixture offrustration and not being
satisfied and just having thisfeeling in my gut.
It's like I don't know whatneeds to happen, but something
needs to change right.
And then another thing is justsurrounding myself with
like-minded individuals, right,like surrounding myself with
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godly individuals, because thepeople that were on I was.
You know, I wouldn't say theywere bad people, but they were
in a similar boat.
They were just lukewarmChristians, right and and again,
we, we all fall short of theglory of God.
We all have different seasonsin our life, but in that season
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of my life I needed to be withChristians who were on fire for
the Lord, because through them Igot to see and got to build my
faith up around strongindividuals, people within the
church, within the community,and then radically changing and
shifting everything.
Man, it's like you know thesocial media that you're on, the
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music, that you're listening toeverything.
Is it adding and building andcreating life into my life or is
it, you know, taking it awayand making me feel less?
Is it making me feel anxious?
Is it leaving me with lessenergy, like really take
inventory of what I was doingand is it actually enhancing my
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life?
And you know, a mixture of allthose different things came to a
point where it's like, hey, Ineed to make a change.
And, being around it, there's amovie movie I don't know if you
got a chance to see it.
If you haven't, definitelycheck it out.
It's called the forge onnetflix.
Yeah, check it out and anyonethat's watching it's a great
movie.
It's this guy or it's this kid.
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He's like, I think, 16 year oldkid.
He's got a lot of issues.
He's, you know, he know he'sjust, he's just a teenager and
this guy takes him under hiswing and he, he basically they
call it the forge.
It's because he has a group ofmen, christian men that he
basically pours into and speaksthe word of Christ over.
His life gets radically changedin the movie and I don't want
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to give away anything, butthat's a high level of what's
possible when you can surroundyourself with people that are on
fire for the Lord.
That's what's great with socialmedia and the Internet now is
that if I don't have anyone inproximity, I mean most If you
live in the US, there's usuallya Christian church you can get
plugged into.
But even if you're not close toanything or whatever your
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situation at home, you can puton a podcast, you could put on a
video, you could put on achurch service with someone
that's filled with the HolySpirit, because the Lord can
work in a lot of different waysand the more you can surround
yourself with that, your life'sgoing to change.
And the last thing, with thatabiding in the word of Christ
every single day that absolutelychanged my life.
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When I read that verse, I waslike you know what?
I'm going to read the Bibleevery day and there's certain
days where I may read one verse.
It may be a busy day, but eversince that moment, I've never
missed a day, like I've alwaysbeen in the word of Christ.
Because one of the things thatI heard people say is you know,
just listen to the Lord, youknow hear, you know just just.
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You know communicate.
And I always I remember hearingthat and I said what does that
even mean?
What does that even mean tohear from the Lord Like is I'm
supposed to be talked to?
Well, you know, the Bible talksabout it.
In John one.
It says the Lord, the word isGod, the word was with God and
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the word is breathed by God, youknow.
So it's like.
Those are the words that theLord used vessels to share in
the Bible, and so that is aliving, breathing word that I
can pour into my life everysingle day.
Because once you start doingthat, what starts to happen is
you know, everyone knows, ispretty familiar with the Lord's
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Prayer.
You know, our Father, who artin heaven.
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as itis in heaven.
And that's the prayer is thatwhen the Lord made Garden of
Eden, there was so muchabundance, there was gold, they
had everything you needed.
And what does the enemy do?
He comes into the Garden ofEden and he deceives Adam and
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Eve and say, hey, don't you wantthis, don't you want to eat
from this fruit of this treeover here?
You guys don't have everything.
You guys are missing out onthis, and that's another thing.
It's like what are we focusing?
Are we focusing on what we'requote, unquote?
Because if we're within theword of Christ and we're fully
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on board and we submit ourselvesto the Lord, the Lord is
everything.
So we don't lack anything andthe Lord operates with absolute
excellence and abundance andprosperity, and so if we can
align ourselves with that, thenwe're going to start to bear
fruit.
And that's something I did.
I took inventory.
I said, lord, if that's true,if you're saying this, it even
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goes later on and says where isit?
I've told you these things thatyou'll be filled with joy.
This is my commandment.
And then he goes in to loveeach other, I have no longer.
He basically says later on, itsays whatever's your heart
desire, I will grant you Right.
And it's not because he'sgiving it to us because we want
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it, Like it's a genie in abottle.
It's because once our heartsdesires start to become what the
Lord desires for our life, thenthat's what starts to happen.
Right, because it's written,and that's what I would say is
abide in the word of Christ,start reading the Bible.
That's going to be your bestperson of all in the book.
If anything's going wrong,you're struggling financially,
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you're lacking happiness, you'restruggling in your
relationships, and I know I'mpreaching to the choir here too,
dorsey, but that really changedmy life because when that got
into my life, things thatweren't serving me started to
flee from my life, and I'mforever grateful, and you know
that's why I'm even here on thispodcast is to spread the good
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news too, man, and you knowthat's why I'm even here on this
podcast is to spread the goodnews too.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
man, amen.
Now you said that you playedfootball in college.
Where did you go to college andplay football and how did you
get into what you do today?
Did you study it?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Did you?
Yeah, that's a great question.
So yeah, in Cleveland, man,there's two things you play
sports or you get in trouble.
I did a little bit of both, butthe sports kept me on track.
And one of the things,basketball was always my passion
, but football I was the best atjust due to my size and stuff
like that.
And so there's a school calledJohn Carroll University.
It's a division three.
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It's funny because a lot of mycoaches ended up making it to
the NFL coaching staff.
So I don't know if you saw, butthe Houston Texans just
recently, there's a player thatshoved this coach.
I don't know, it was on theheadlines, but that coach that
he shoved was actually one of mycoaches and he was just super
intense and I could see howemotions flare up during the
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game.
But you know, football was.
You know, sports really gave mea foundation because I was held
accountable as a group oflike-minded individuals.
We had a strict schedule, so Iwas held to a schedule.
I knew exactly what I needed todo In college.
It's a full-time job.
You got to watch film.
You watch film for like an hourand a half.
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You go to class for three orfour hours, you live for an hour
and a half to two hours.
You go to practice for three tofour hours.
Next thing, you know, you knowyou got to go to sleep.
So it's like you know.
My coach said this you can onlyhave three things.
You have social life, footballand your academics.
And so that's what he said.
You can only have two out ofthe three.
If you want to do good inschool and be good at football,
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that's possible, but your sociallife is going to slap.
If you're going to have a goodsocial life, you're going to be
good at football, but youracademics are going to slap.
If you want to have a goodsocial life and good academics,
then your football is going toslap.
That's when you really got toget clear For me.
I got to a point in my lifewhere I knew I wasn't going to
the NFL.
I had to walk away from thegame.
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Eventually I decided to doubledown on business and I always
knew I wanted to go intobusiness because I didn't want
to be limited to what I couldearn and what I could provide
for my family.
So I got into business becauseI love numbers and I love
business.
I was thinking about going intoaccounting.
I saw a set and I was veryinvolved in the community and on
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campus.
I did a lot of things, but whatI did was I interviewed
accountants.
I was like, hey, how do youlike the profession?
You know, is this enjoyable,like you know?
Tell me about it, I would loveto learn more.
Almost every accountant that Iinteracted with they were either
excited to leave the professionand now they're opening up
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their own business.
They're like, hey, it was great, but now I have the opportunity
to start my own business.
I knew this one guy who boughtlike a SoulCycle.
But then the other accountantsI saw they weren't really happy
doing the accounting.
They said it was good, hey, butthey really weren't happy.
And if you look it up,accountants are actually one of
the highest suicide rates tiedto a profession.
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And so I was like man, thatdoesn't sound good.
And so then I looked into thefinance.
You know, work on Wall Street,investment banking.
I was like I like numbers,that's what I want to do.
But I just remember going intothat and a lot of individuals
were, you know, relying onsubstances like drugs and
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alcohol and making good money,but it really wasn't a healthy
lifestyle.
Again, I was like, man, I don'tthink that's the path for me
either.
So I was like, let me just gowith marketing.
Marketing is the easy businessdegree and that's my philosophy
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around it If I can help peoplemarket and sell and promote,
then I can always be valuablewithin the marketplace as well.
I got a degree in marketing.
I took a different path thanmost entrepreneurs.
I played out the full fouryears and I got to a point I did
everything right, got goodgrades, got a good job.
I got positions.
I was working in positions whenI was in college, so I started
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early, but then I realized Iwasn't able to provide for my
family and for myself at thelifestyle that I wanted.
So I ran into my mentor.
I started picking up books, Istarted going to live events and
, like I mentioned before mymentor, he helped grow and scale
Salesforce up to a hundredmillions of sales system and so
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I learned from people thatactually got out and done it and
then from there justimplemented with companies all
around the world and I've beenconsulting now for the last 12
years specifically around that.
That then led to me working withthe largest personal
development company in the world.
What they did was they broughtme in to help them grow their
sales and marketing.
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They partnered with people likeTony Robbins, grant Cardone,
gary Vee, damien, john, robertKiyosaki all these guys and even
they did stuff with DonaldTrump before he was president,
and that's when I reallyunderstood the business model of
like hey businesses.
They were making millions ofdollars in a weekend, and if I
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can help produce sales,depending on how much profit
they make, I can get paid inproportion to that, and so that
was really a concept that I ranwith and it's really served me
for the last 12 years of justhelping people grow their sales
and marketing Developing systems, processes, developing their
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sales teams, developingmarketing strategies.
It's all around scaling andgrowing the company on the front
end.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, now I think I heard that you also.
You know, along with DamonGronk, you also worked with one
of the other slots, mr Wonderful.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, Kevin O'Leary.
Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How?
What is it like working withhim?
Because on the show he seemedlike you know he's in business.
He wants to knock out everybodyelse to get that deal.
How is it business?
He wants to knock out everybodyelse to get that deal.
He's actually as wonderful ashe seems on TV.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There's a Mr Wonderful.
He's a funny guy.
I'm a big Shark Tank.
I watch a lot of Shark Tank.
One of the quotes that he saysa lot and you can even type and
you can find episodes.
He says multiple episodes.
He's very direct with thecontestants.
Right, they come up and he'slike he's like you know what you
need to do.
You take it behind the barn andshoot it.
(26:34):
He's super intense when he saysit right, you know, obviously
it's a character, it's tv and sohe has to make it interesting.
But he genuinely says thatbecause he genuinely cares about
the individuals.
And then, with the seriousnessand the business acumen, it's
his money that he's putting up.
And if you look at hisbackground, he was a finance guy
.
He was very conservative withhis money.
(26:56):
He was one of those guys thatinvested his money and it slowly
compounded and it worked forhim.
And then at a point in hiscareer later in his 50s or 60s
or however old it was when hestarted getting on the shark
tank, he then started investingin companies, which is different
than a lot of the other sharks.
Because if you look at Damon,he built FUBU.
(27:17):
He was young, young guy sellingt-shirts, built this global
brand, received funds at anearly age.
Mark Cuban had this massivetech sale.
Robert Herjavec also got intotechnology, had a massive sale.
Lori, she's still young.
She made her money through QVC,and then Barbara Corcoran.
(27:37):
Barbara Corcoran has a similarjourney, but she puts a lot of
her investments in real estate.
So he's one of those guys that'svery conservative with his
money and there's even reportsin the news headlines that he's
like if you get married, makesure you sign a prenup.
He'll say certain things likethat because that's just who he
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is.
But he he says that because hegenuinely cares about the
contestant and generally wantsto make money.
But the main focus or kevino'leary, why he's mr wonderful
is that if you do have a goodproduct or service and you can
work with him, he does bring alot of value.
But he is a shark and he's goingto make you an offer that
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obviously has his best interestsin mind and this is his own
money that he's worked decadesfor, so it's not going to be
cheap to work with him, andthat's most of the sharks as
well.
But, yeah, he's worked decadesfor, so it's not going to be
cheap to work with him, andthat's most of the sharks as
well.
But yeah, he's a good guy.
I remember talking to him onstage and behind the stage and
stuff like that.
He's the solid guy.
He's not as cutthroat as the tvshow makes it seem like yeah,
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tell me, what does it mean towin the day?
Yeah, that's a great question.
Yeah, when you're asking mebefore with, like, you know,
what did I do and what did Ichange to start building
momentum in my life.
Win the day and whatever thatlooks like.
So that's a message I like totell people win the moment, win
the day, because if I can winthe day, that's going to turn
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into winning the weeks, and if Ican win weeks that's going to
turn into winning months, and ifI can win some months I can
string together winning yearsand whatever that looks like for
you.
Maybe there's someone out therethat's an alcoholic.
For them, to win the day, theyhave to stop drinking alcohol.
Maybe that's winning the day.
For me it was making sure I getwell, rest, like eight hours of
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sleep, making sure that I readthe Bible.
For me, keeping it simple waslike that's winning the day for
me when I first started.
And obviously, as you grow andscale an organization and you do
different things and you growas an individual, you can start
adding things to that.
But winning the day is havingtwo or three things that you do
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consistently, non-negotiables,that you can just commit to,
even when you don't feel like it, not when it's convenient, but
when I commit to it, that'swinning the day.
So then I had a little journal.
I had a couple three thingswhat I needed to do for the day
get my eight hours of sleep,maybe get 30 minutes of steps in
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and then ultimately read theBible.
And if I did that, you classifywhat those things are and if
you do that you check all threeoff, you win the day, and if you
don't, you don't win the day.
So it's like if you can win theday consistently, you're going
to build momentum and thenyou're going to look back and be
like wow, because that smallmuscle of discipline and
(30:30):
consistency starts to compoundin your favor.
And then next thing you know,it's like you look back and
you're like, man, how did I getto where I am?
It's like, well, of all thework that I did every single day
, and it's the stuff that youknow.
One of my favorite quotes iswhat you do in private is what
people reward you in public.
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Is what you do in private right?
So it's like the things thatyou do when no one's watching is
what people recognize youpublicly for right and so.
But it's not like that whenyou're in the trenches and
you're working every single day,no one's watching.
It's like building a podcastman.
There's a lot of work that goesinto building a podcast and
reaching people and havingamazing conversations, and it's
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not just about getting reach andgetting more exposure.
But it takes time.
It's not something that happensovernight.
I know you've done a lot ofawesome episodes, dorsey.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you.
How do you merge business andJesus together?
I'm sorry business, and how doyou move business and Jesus
together?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm sorry, business, and what was the last word?
Jesus Christ?
Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, that's agreat question.
I think that was something thatshifted with me with the John
15 chapter.
It's like, you know, ifbusiness is a spiritual game,
has a standard of excellence ineverything about it and I just
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am not experiencing that in mybusiness then what needs to
change?
I need to start gettingalignment framed to the Lord and
literally it comes when I firststarted and even still to this
day I'm like Lord, I may nothave all the answers, you have
my mind, you have my heart, youhave my soul, you have my hands.
Everything is yours.
Like let's go win the day,let's go impact some lives,
(32:35):
let's go build something greattogether, right, and it's like
this conversation andpartnership with the Lord, and
then when you make the money andgrow your team, it has nothing
to do with you.
Obviously, you have to stayconsistent of what you need to
do for the day and be a stewardof that.
But at the end of the day,we're all dust, we're all dirt,
(33:00):
we're all going to die one day,and that's how we started.
So I'm not going to put a hugeemphasis on my losses or my
successes because I can have asteadfast steadiness and peace
and fulfillment and contentmentin my life, knowing that the
Lord is going to provide, likehe always does and he always
will.
Right, yeah, and so, yeah, howdo you integrate it?
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You know, I would say you know,how can you not?
Because here's another thingtoo, one of the things that I
got a chance to consult withorganizations.
We would help them grow andscale the sales and make a lot
of money with them, and it wasgreat.
But then it got to a point withthe CEO and the business owners
(33:44):
I was working with.
The question became how muchtime are they abiding with the
word of Christ every single day?
And if the answer is zero andI'm working and serving the CEO
and business owner, what doesthat say about me?
And I just remember it's like Ineed to be working and building
(34:04):
something for the kingdom so Idon't just work in vain, and the
Bible clearly talks about thattoo.
And if you don't have peace,you're not bearing fruit in your
life.
Then I need to look around meand say Lord, what's going on
Like?
Is it just I'm in the wrongvehicle?
I need to completely pivot, oris it.
Just I need to be more patientand stay consistent with it and
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be more disciplined, because ifyou ask those questions, the
Lord's going to instantly tellyou, because most people know
what they need to do, they'rejust not doing it.
And so, with the Lord andbusiness, it's always like Lord,
this is my plan, this is howwe're going to continue to
market the organization, this ishow we're going to scale and
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grow the organization.
This is the plan right now,lord, if there's anything else
that I missed or I'm not seeing,please let me know, because the
last thing I would want to dois do something that's out of
your plan and out of alignmentwith what you're trying and
calling me to do.
Right, and that's the levelthat it has to get to every
single day in business.
Right, it's like Lord, let'sbuild, let's build, cultivate.
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And the last thing I'll say,with that is a byproduct of all
that is the relationships in thebusiness.
Because when also and I kind oflearned this about seven years
ago, but it was justre-solidified about five years
ago, when I implemented thatburst in my life was
relationship A lot of businessesthat I consulted with were very
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transactional.
It was like hey, let's run ads,let's market the company, let's
close the deal, let's collectthe cash and do it again, and
that's great to be profitable,but if you're not developing and
cultivating the relationship,how much long-term success are
you really going to have?
And that's why you see a lot ofmarketing agencies or companies
(35:52):
on the internet that areextremely transactional.
They may have some success inthe short term, but they're no
longer around, or you may nothear about them, or they shift
or something happens.
Why?
Because they're not focusing oncultivating relationships.
And that's how the Lord is.
He wants a relationship withall of them, and if we can
cultivate a relationship withthe Lord and with ourselves,
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then we're going to be able tocultivate relationships with
everyone around us.
And if we do that, it's just amatter of time before the Lord's
going to bless you in abundanceand prosperity and give you
exactly what you need.
And it's like you know.
I'm glad you brought this up,dorsey, because one of the
(36:35):
things I also share and like totalk about is, you know, when I
consulted with otherorganizations, I would help them
grow and scale their companyand I would pray for years, say
Lord, I want my own offer, Iwant my own business and the
Lord's like I want you here.
Okay, I want you promoting thiscompany.
I want you promoting thiscompany.
I want you learning the skillsets, doing it as if it was your
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own business, because that'sanother thing.
Treat if you are in a business,if you are working for an
organization or for a company,treat it as if it's your own.
Look around you, where yourplace, at your room, your office
, everything around you Is it ata level of excellence?
Because if I can't take care of, let's say, one room, why would
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the Lord bless me with a full,entire house, acres of land?
It's like the Lord's going tobless us and meet us with what
we can handle.
If we can handle our positionat our workplace, then he's
going to give us moreresponsibility that's going to
eventually blossom into abusiness.
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Whoever's listening to this?
It's like look at what's infront of you on your plate and
do it with the highest level ofquality, as if this was your own
, as if it was for the Lord.
Don't do it for yourself, don'tdo it for others, do it for the
Lord and start to see whathappens.
And that's a very humblingprocess and that's not easy, but
if you can stay the path, stayhumble, stay disciplined, stay
consistent.
You know the Bible talks aboutit too.
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It's a furnace.
We go through a furnace.
It's this incineration periodwhere it burns the impurities
from us, from our heart, fromour mind, from our soul.
That process is a painfulprocess, but on the other side
we're going to come out a newindividual, the person that the
Lord has always called us to be.
(38:30):
And that's the final thing I'llsay with this business in Jesus
is that if you can incorporateit, it's really having core
values.
And if you have the Lordincorporated, then it doesn't
matter what industry you're in,it doesn't matter what time of
year it is, because if the Lordhas favor over you, you're going
to find a way.
If Jesus rose again three daysafter the dead from the dead,
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after three days of being dead,I think he can help you create a
profitable business.
And that same Holy Spiritthat's within Jesus is within
all of us and we have access toit through the Holy Word of the
Bible.
And so, yeah, I mean it's theonly way to do business and
that's one of the things I'mpassionate about.
And people can grab a hold ofthat and abide in the Lord, and
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that's one of the things I'mpassionate about, and people can
grab a hold of that and abidein the Lord, and if the Lord's
calling me to get into business,I'd be more than happy to
connect with anyone that hasquestions on that, because it's
absolutely changed my life andchanged my business.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, give me one second.
In the last few minutes of thisepisode, I want to talk about
purpose.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
What does purpose look like to you and how do you
find your life purpose?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Well, a couple of things wehave to understand.
What does purpose mean?
So the prefix P-U-R is setforth beforehand and pose is an
intention.
So if you just look at purposeof the word because there's my
life's purpose and purpose thoseare two different things
Purpose is set forth beforehandor the intention that's set
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forth beforehand.
So if you think about it, youknow, let's say that football
back there, the purpose is forit to be a football and play a
game with it.
That's the purpose of it, right, but now and that purpose can
shift every single day Maybe thepurpose is to run it, maybe I
can throw it, maybe I can catchit.
That purpose changes.
But what's my life's purpose?
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Why am I here on this earth?
Now, that's a higher levelthing.
So there's understanding whatmy life's purpose is and
understanding what my purpose isfor today and so.
But if you think about itthough, purpose it's the purest,
and pure P-U-R also is found inpure.
It's the purest intention setforth beforehand.
(40:42):
If you think about it, ourlife's purpose was set forth
with the purest intention beforewe were ever created.
If you think about that, wewere hand designed and
handcrafted by the creator Withthat.
I need to understand.
I need to understand that Ihave value, I have purpose and
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I'm here for a reason.
Because a lot of people don'teven believe that oh, the Lord
can't use me, I'm not smartenough, whatever thing that they
put there.
They need to understand thatthey're here for a reason.
If you look at the odds of whyyou're here, it's like one in 10
million or potentially, I don'teven know, but it's a large
number.
You're better off playing thelottery, hitting the what was it
(41:27):
?
The lotto, the super eight orsuper six, whatever it is,
because those odds are betterthan us being here.
So the fact that you're here,there's a reason.
And even for you, dorsey I mean, you inspire me every day, man
there's purpose in everythingthat you do in your life, right?
And so it's like you know, ourlife's purpose is something
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that's set forth beforehand.
And then you take it even a stepfurther and say service.
We're here to serve.
And the reason why I know thatis because we're hardwired to
serve, because when we serve anddo things for other people, or
when we serve, our brainreleases dopamine, serotonin,
(42:08):
oxytocin, all these amazingchemicals that make us feel good
.
Why?
Because we as human beings arehere to serve.
So to understand our life'spurpose at the high level this
is the macro level is we'recalled to serve.
So then the question becomes onthe micro level, what are we
serving?
Are we serving ourselves, arewe serving others or are we
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serving the creator?
There's three levels myself,others and the creator.
So then at that point,sometimes I'm in the wrong
vehicle and sometimes I'm in theright vehicle, serving the
wrong person.
So let's say I'm running abusiness, but I'm serving myself
and only myself, versus I'm inthe right business, I'm in the
right industry, I'm in the rightvehicle, but now I just need to
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shift from serving myself toserving the Lord.
And then that question becomeshey, lord, is this what I'm
truly called to do?
Am I called to do this?
And one of the things to lookat is does it give you energy?
Does it excite you?
Are you passionate about it?
Are you?
Does it bring you peace?
Are you bearing fruit?
Because what happens if you dosomething and you hate it, it's
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taken from it.
It's not bringing you peace,it's not bringing you, it takes
away from your passion.
Then it's like you're trying toput a square peg in a circle in
a circle, a hole.
It doesn't work.
And you could try to force yourway in and try to figure it out
and put it willpower over itand do it your way.
And trust me, I'm stubborn, Iknow I'm trying to do it that
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way, but that's not what you'recalled to do, because when
you're called to do something,not only will you enjoy it, you
have peace, you're going to getaccelerated results in a pretty
short period of time, like Iremember when I shot a
basketball, I just had a natural.
I would just shoot it, andobviously I wasn't the greatest
(44:00):
player in the world.
But if I just practiced it forlike a couple of days, I had an
accelerated results because Iwas naturally good at it.
But things like ice skating no,ice skating is not for me.
I'm probably going to bust myneck, break my ankle.
That's something that I stayfar away from.
So it's like also having thatunderstanding of what you're
good at and what you're not goodat, because we're all designed
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differently.
Think of an animal.
Animals are good example.
Well, animals, depending on howthey're made and how they're
created, they thrive in certainenvironments and they thrive
doing other things.
So have it some.
Just like you know, if youthink about like a snail snail
just sleeps all day, staysprotected Then you got a cheetah
who actually goes out and huntsLike we're all part of the
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whole right.
It's like another way to thinkof it is like our body.
You have fingers, hands, legs,arms.
Is a thumb more important thana toe?
No, because we both need ourthumb and we need our toes right
, and they both play a purpose.
But when they're attached tothe source and to our body, they
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make us complete, and withoutit then we're missing something.
And so how to find your life'spurpose?
You got to get clear on whoyou're serving.
Am I serving myself?
Am I serving others?
Am I serving the Lord?
Now I can get clear on servingthe Lord every single day and,
like I said before, if you don'tknow what that looks like,
asking him and demanding andexpecting an answer, saying, hey
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, lord, I'm serving you.
Today I'm doing whatever I have.
My heart, my mind, my soul, myhands, all the skills that
you've given me is yours.
How can we get to work today Ifyou're just coming with that
mentality and that mindset?
What's going to start to happen?
You're going to start to findopportunities to serve the Lord
right, because the Lord'slooking for people to work.
You know, the workers are fewand the harvest is plenty.
(45:48):
One of the sayings I like to sayall are called, but few pick up
.
Only a few picked up the call.
Because we're all called hereand we all play a purpose in
this thing called life, and soit's just a matter of making
sure that we serve the Lord andin the micro it's a purpose.
It's just like.
What does that look like?
Let's say you want to loseweight, that's the goal.
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And then I start to create aplan to achieve those goals.
And then I start to create aplan to achieve those goals and
then I can start to find purposein my everyday life.
But once you get clear on that,you're serving the Lord and how
to create a purpose drivenbusiness.
Another thing is, once you foundyour purpose, now it's how do I
make money with it?
Well, how do we make money withit is who are you called to
serve, what problems are youcalled to solve and how are you
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called to solve that problem?
And what I like to do is startwith people that you can relate
with Like for me, I can relatewith athletes Help people that
are transitioning out of sports.
That's the individual.
That's where they're at intheir life.
The problem are people that arestruggling to find their life's
purpose, and then the solutionis through my books, my keynotes
(46:53):
, the purpose-driven businessesthat I build through my content
online.
It's all surrounded that, andif the problem is big enough or
the problem is experienced by alot of people, people are going
to be willing to pay you money.
And so, bigger the problem,bigger the solution, bigger the
payout.
Smaller the problem, smallerthe solution, smaller the payout
.
But if you look at all greatorganizations like, if you look
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at like Amazon, you can ordersomething and get something
shipped to your door in 24 hours.
That's pretty convenient, right, and that's a problem that the
logistics industry couldn'tsolve for the longest time.
But that's whatever customerwants.
They want to purchase somethingand they want it shipped to
their door, ideally that day,but if not today, tomorrow, and
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if you can do that, you can nowget paid on doing that.
Hopefully that gives you someinsight and once you know who
you serve, what problems yousolve and then how you call to
solve that problem, that's goingto give you a perfect statement
, your mission statement I helpblank.
I help athletes with theirproblem find their life's
purpose through blank, throughthe solution, through books,
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purpose-driven businesses,presentations, content, online.
And then you start to formulatethat and it starts to come to
love and it starts to cultivateand you start to get clearer
around the vision.
Because there's another sayingif the Lord gives you a vision,
he's not going to tell youeverything that you need to do
to achieve the vision, becauseif you understood how much work
you need to do to achieve thevision, then most people won't
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pursue their dreams and theirvision Right and so high level.
I'm serving the Lord.
Who am I serving?
That's going to give me mylife's purpose, that's, our
life's purpose is to serve oneanother and to serve the Lord.
Because if we can serve theLord, simultaneously, we're
going to be serving others andourselves.
And then, as a byproduct ofthat, we're now going to find
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something that's bigger thanourselves and we're going to
start to look around us and belike, hey, how can I serve you,
lord?
Well, how can I serve yourpeople?
How can I serve Okay?
Well, I see these people outhere struggling with this.
They have problems.
Well, what's the solution?
Let's say they're hungry.
Well, how can we get them food?
Well, I can start a restaurant.
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Well, whatever the case may be,whoever you feel drawn to, that
you see people that you canrelate to and you have a heart
for, and you see themexperiencing problems.
It's like that's how you cancreate a business, that's how
you can find your life's purpose, that's how you can serve the
Lord is.
Look around you.
Who do you tell?
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Because a lot of people in thisworld they need help.
We all need help, and so theLord saved us by the mercy and
grace of God, and so do that.
And then you can start to findproblems around you, provide
solutions, and now you can getpaid for those solutions.
Now you create a businessaround helping and serving
people and serving the Lord.
And I always tell people, ifyou partner with the creator of
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the universe, good things willstart to happen.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And it doesn't really have to be.
You know, a business you knowyour purpose doesn't necessarily
mean you have to.
You know, go into business.
You know purpose can be helpingpeople at church or helping
people Absolutely, you know youhelp your family.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
You know that purpose , that purpose, it will evolve
every day.
Man, You're like a, you're likea missionary like a, you're
like a military on deployment.
That mission changes every dayand every second Cause, you know
, let's say, like things inCalifornia, things happen, fires
, people's houses burned down.
My mission is going to change.
Right, If I'm in that situation, my mission and my purpose that
(50:32):
day is going to shift tosomething else.
Right, so it's like, but at ahigh level, I'm always serving
the Lord.
So, whatever that looks likefor individuals that's listening
to this and where they're at,it's like how can I serve the
Lord today?
And that starts with, you know,taking out some sin in our life
.
Maybe it's with the peoplearound us, foreign life and the
people around us, with ourfriends and our family.
(50:54):
It could be the smallest littlething, but if we do it for the
Lord, those little things startto become big things.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, as I thought, as I, you know, thinking about
asking you these questions, asong came into my mind, and it's
the 80s Stephen Taylor ChapmanChapman song.
You know more to this life, andof course, but there's more to
this life than living and dying,more to this life than trying
(51:22):
to make it through the day, moreto this life, more than the
eyes alone can see, and there'smore to this life alone can be.
Tonight he lies in silence,staring into the space and looks
for ways to make tomorrowbetter than today.
But in the morning light itlooks the same.
Life just goes on.
(51:44):
And in my thinking, what I'mtrying to, how I interpret that,
is he's saying that sometimes,when we wake up the next day, we
should go back to what we didthe day before.
We don't try to make changes tothe next day.
To make life.
(52:04):
You know more.
You know have, like you'resaying, have life a purpose each
day.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Sure, yeah, absolutely.
And yeah, man, man, we got tomake every day count.
We have to win the day it, makethe most of it, because we
don't know when that day's gonnacome, because we're all on
borrowed time, right, and it'slike that day is gonna come for
all of us, and so we have tomake it worthwhile today, right
and so, and so I agree.
(52:33):
And then also too, life isn'tyou know, you didn't even talk
about it in the Bible too, itwas, uh, you know, samuel, king
Samuel.
Life's more than just earthlypleasures, you know, like
personal gain and earthlypleasures.
And if we all can get to aplace where it's like, hey,
we're here, not because we'rewhoever it is, or it's because
(52:59):
of our own willpower, it's dueto the fact that we're a small
part into the greater whole ofthings, then life starts to
change.
You don't become the center ofthe universe, you don't become
the center of the world or yourday.
Now.
You revolve your day around theLord, and when you do that, the
(53:20):
Lord does miracles.
He works miracles every singleday, and if you just are open to
receiving that and you're opento contributing to it, the
Lord's going to continue tobless you and he's going to
continue to give you opportunityto do so to continue to give
you the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Can you give us one or two Bible verses where you
see the Bible talking aboutpurpose for our lives versus
purpose in general?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, there's just one verse.
I think it's Jeremiah.
I want to say it's Jeremiah2.10.
Let me just confirm here oh,ephesians 2.10.
This is it.
I got the wrong chapter.
I'm in Jeremiah right now.
It's Ephesians 2.10, notJeremiah 2.10.
It's for we are God'sworkmanship, created in Christ
(54:07):
Jesus to do good work which Godprepared in advance for us to do
.
That's like you know.
You know, for we are God'sworkmanship, created in Christ
Jesus to do good works which Godprepared in advance for us to
do.
Like we're called to do goodthings, man, like the Lord's,
handcrafted us this way.
(54:28):
Another one I like is Proverbs16, verse nine.
It says the heart of man planshis way, but the Lord
establishes his steps, and sothat's another thing.
It's just like.
Again, you know I can try to doit my way, but the Lord's going
to establish our steps.
But how does he establish oursteps?
(54:49):
He establishes our steps with.
You know our passions, whatexcites us, where we live, our
family, like everything aboutour lives, of who we're related
to, where we live.
You know how we act, how wethink.
You know what we like, what wedislike.
That is established.
(55:09):
That's the Lord establishingour step, right, like I said
before, I'm not going to bedrawn towards ice skating
because that's not my plan.
That's not what excites me.
In fact it terrifies me.
I don't want to get injured,but those are things.
The desires of our hearts arealso going to determine our life
, and so the more that we canget invested in the Lord, the
(55:30):
more we can understand his planand we can live out the purpose.
So those are some good ones.
I'll send you a couple more.
We may be posted on the bottomof the comment section.
But yeah, there's a lot of goodones, but those are some of the
few that come to my mindrecently.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
How can people, if they wanted to connect with you
and say hello and see what elseyou're up to?
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Sure, well, if you ever want to connect with me,
make sure to reach out to Doristo give him a big hug for me.
But yeah, you can find me onLinkedIn or Instagram, and those
are probably the easiest ways,or Facebook, but I would say
Instagram and LinkedIn are theeasiest.
If you just type in LinkedIn,tyler Cerny, you'll find me, and
(56:15):
LinkedIn or I'm sorry,instagram, if you type in Tyler
Cerny, you'll find me too.
But my username is Tyler DCerny Diaz and Daniel, which is
my middle name, so we caninclude that and then reach out
to me on there.
Those are probably the twoeasiest ways and we can get
connected.
And if you have any questions,more than happy to help you find
purpose and get on fire for theLord, because I know the type
(56:38):
of impact that's had on my life.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Well, Tyler, thank you so much for coming on the
show today.
We greatly appreciate havingyou.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Of course, man Dorsey .
It's always been a pleasure,and God bless you brother.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for
coming on and hearing thisepisode and please go and check
out Tyler and see what he's upto, and hope you are encouraged
and inspired by this episode andhopefully you'll get to know
your life purpose and know thatGod loves you and cares for you
and wants you to have a greatlife and great purpose for your
(57:17):
life.
And until next time, god bless.
Bye-bye.
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