June 26, 2025 • 15 mins
We explore the life of Father Gabriel Amor, the real-life exorcist behind "The Pope's Exorcist" movie, who reportedly conducted 60,000 exorcisms and founded the Vatican-approved International Association of Exorcists. The conversation delves into demonic hierarchies and spiritual warfare from both Catholic and evangelical Christian perspectives.
• Father Gabriel Amor performed thousands of exorcisms, many being minor interventions like simple blessings
• He claimed historical figures like Hitler and Stalin were possessed by demons
• Asmodeus is described as a high-ranking demon, comparable to a "CFO or CEO" in hell's hierarchy
• John Ramirez, a former occultist turned Christian, began practicing dark arts at age seven
• Ramirez would mark territories with ritualistic objects at four corners of neighborhoods to establish demonic influence
• Understanding a demon's name is crucial in exorcism as it reveals their weaknesses
• The spiritual realm has organized hierarchies for both angelic and demonic entities
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is
your host, ny Boom, and myco-host, big Daz.
We'll be talking about trendingtopics in healthcare and
basically, just as a disclaimerjust to let the listeners know
that this is just basically onour opinions and speculations
(00:24):
and I hope you guys enjoy theshow.
Let's start off and kick offwith our first topic.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And that brings me to this father who's famous in the
Catholic Church, Father GabrielAmor.
And they made a movie on thisguy.
This guy is the main characterin the Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh, the Pope, the original one.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, but the movie it's called the Pope.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, oh, it's called the Pope.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, so that's not the original Exorcist, that's a
whole other Exorcist movie.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is a whole different movie.
It's not the Exorcist.
The movie is called the Pope'sExorcist.
Basically, it is specificallythe story about this one pope
who is the specific exorcist forthe Catholic Church, and it's
out in movie theaters right now.
It's with what's this guy'sactor's name?
(01:39):
I think it's the guy who played300.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Damn, I forgot his name.
Yeah, I forget his name too.
Yeah, I know who he's overthere.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I forget his name too, but he's the main
character.
He's the Pope in this movie andFather Gabriel Amor, and the
character is based on a realexorcist.
You know, you can look him up.
It is believed that FatherGabriel conducted over 60,000
(02:05):
exorcisms.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Sam, I'm really mad that I forgot that guy's name.
But yeah, Wow, that's a lot ofexorcisms.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, yes, and the reason why it's a lot of
exorcisms is because of FatherGabriel's philosophy, right?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You said 300, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
No, yeah, he was in the movie 300.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The main actor no, no , no, not the movie, not the guy
.
You said 255,.
You said how?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
many episodes 60,000.
60,000.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
60,000.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, yeah, that's a hell of a lot more than I
thought.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You also have to understand Father Gabriel's
philosophy.
His philosophy was like this Ifyou come up to him and you say
hello and you give me a blessing, he'd give you a blessing and
that's him exercising a demon ina way.
A lot of his exorcisms werevery mild and small exorcisms,
(03:07):
but he did have some bigexorcisms.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, I get you.
Now it is 60,000 because he dida lot of minor exorcisms.
Okay, I get it, I get it.
So in the movie, the demon thathe exorcised was the demon of
lust and the prince of hell,asmodeus, and I'm going to get
(03:29):
into Asmodeus right after thisFather Gabriel story.
Famous exorcism stories that heparticipated in was the
Osmodeus Exorcism and, like Isaid, if you watch the movie
(03:53):
you'll see what I'm talkingabout.
I don't think that the movie iscompletely accurate.
Yes, I think they fabricated alot of stuff, but I think
there's things in that moviethat is somewhat true.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So Father Gabriel also was famous for stating that
Hitler and Stalin werepossessed also.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Hitler and Stalin Okay.
And in the movie you'll seethat he kind of said see, I was
right, I was right you'll see.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So, because of his work with the church, he created
an international association ofexorcist that has been approved
by the Vatican since 2014.
So this is not no fake shitright here.
This is some real shit righthere.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, since 2014.
Since 2014.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yep Alright.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Go, go ahead.
No, no, you say are well.
Well, I'm gonna use a.
Well, yeah, I'm just out to anew bus in it a good number of
years well, that is pretty goodnews, well the on more.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm all year in a, a very powerful demon and he would
be categorized in the secondtier of that hierarchy.
He was one of the.
He's basically almost like youcan count him as like the second
.
Maybe he's like the second orthe third right-hand man for the
devil, maybe like a highcaptain.
(05:48):
He would be like he'd be like aCFO or CEO to a company.
That's how Paul did.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I was, um, when I was looking, when my research, I
was looking up this guy, uh,john Ramirez, he's, he's
Catholic, not Christian now.
Yeah, he's Christian now, um,but he used to um be like I
guess he broke down those thoseangels and demons, like the
(06:20):
levels and captains and all thatlike you are right now and he's
, he was saying a lot of thingswith um, because when he was
younger he said he, he got intothe demon world at the age of
seven and uh, he was, and sincethen, at the age of like nine he
(06:44):
was, he already started castingspells.
But yeah, his story is reallycrazy, like when, when I was
like watching these dude, he'slike really grasping, I don't
know.
But uh, he did a lot of thingswhen he was younger and he, he
was always into like the demonicworld and stuff.
(07:07):
He said like numbers was a bigthing, like, like numbers was a
big thing, like in their, intheir thing, like there's 21,
there's five, there's six,there's seven, like they all
mean something very strong.
But he's also mentioned thenames of these, these uh, demons
(07:35):
and angels, and the categoriesand how the generals and the
minions yeah, and it's crazybecause it's very like when you
do an exorcism.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
From what I understand, it's extremely
important to figure out the nameof the demon first before you
can do anything, because if youdon't figure that out, you'll
never know you don't know whatyou're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, because you could be just being played or
manipulated or fooled easily.
Because if you know the demons,you know the weakness.
I guess, yeah, it makes a lotof sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So what else you got on this guy?
Ramirez.
He um well weird at his namebecause he sounds to me he
sounds like a serial killer fromCalifornia.
There's a serial killerCalifornia who has a similar
name.
I know his name is Ramirez,that's well.
That's why I don't know if hisfirst name is the same thing,
but he also was.
(08:35):
He was a devil cult activistand he followed.
He followed Satanism and hesaid that the devil would tell
him to kill the people and whathe would do is that he would
break into people's houses itwas normally elderly people who
sneak in through their windowand kill them while they're
(08:56):
sleeping or watching TV orwhatever and then he'd leave.
He did this.
I think he had like 20 victims,20, 30 victims, Wow and they
based a couple of movies on thisguy too.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Jesus, 20 victims, that's pretty high.
I could imagine that's horrible.
But nah, the way this guy brokedown, john was breaking down.
If that was the case, he wasn'tthe one, he would be the one
casting the spell and that dude,the demon would go to that dude
(09:33):
and the demon's the one in thespell and that dude, the demon
would go to that dude and thedemon's the one in his head
telling him to go kill them, todo that, to do all that, and
that's yeah, he broke that downlike that.
That's how it would be, becausehe wasn't.
I mean, I guess you couldconsider him a murderer or
(09:54):
anything, but he wouldn't do themurder.
He would cast spells.
He broke it down.
He said he would like getsomething.
He'll get like a little doll orsomething and he'll do some
like chicken blood or like heputs bones and like he.
It was like a witch.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, he was a werewolf yeah, he ended up being
.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
He said his father was a warlord, he ended up being
the world.
We did all those things and andhe would do the spells.
And I hope, and he said thesame thing, he'll do.
So if you find the example likehe'll do it to a neighborhood,
to or a church, he'll go overover there and he'll find, he'll
(10:45):
find spots like four cornersand he'll put his, his it was
like it would be like a santa,santa ria thing like dolls,
bones, chickens, whatever, um,all mixed up and put in one spot
and then he'll go to the nextcorner, hopefully on the other
side, else around the area, andthat's what happens yep, he's
(11:11):
marking seriously, and that'show he gains his power by the
negative stuff yes, yes, he didsay that to me.
He, you know, he came in at theage of seven.
He was found because, um, yeah,he was found because, um, he
(11:33):
says that a bracelet fell fromout of nowhere.
It just fell right in front ofhim from out of nowhere, it just
fell right in front of me,picked it up.
From the moment that he pickedit up, he put it on and it
didn't come off of him.
Yeah, and, like I said earlier,by the age of 80, he was
casting spells and he was doingit for, oh, he was also drinking
(11:58):
blood for demons, offerings fordemons, taking down anything,
any protective walls of churchesand homes.
And he, yeah, he did do thecloning, the bones, the papers,
(12:26):
the spells and, um, well, soafter that he got, when he came,
you know, into the warlordstuff.
He would go in and do, uh,gangs and stuff too, like if you
find the shooting, you'll seesome, you'll find something
somewhere on that block.
That was those, those alsothere, that was also one was
(12:49):
casting those cells.
And then, when he came, when hewent to, where was it?
He met Fidel Castro's Woodstock.
This is when he moved, when hemoved over.
(13:15):
After he moved, he was like20-something 24 or something
like that.
He said mid-20s.
He met fidel castles, uh hadwhich doctor and um, his name
was three rule over there.
(13:40):
But when he came over here toAmerica he changed it to Tango.
He was, he was in the run fromfrom castro because they had a,
(14:03):
they had a.
They didn't have a good falloutlike they have.
They split together.
They didn't have a good fallout, bad uh argument.
And he was one of the biggestdrug dealers in Central America.
When he became Chavo, it'sChavo, sorry, not Chavo Chavo.
(14:27):
That's why I crossed that oneout.
His name was Chavo when he gotto Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Did he change changes religion eventually?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
yeah, he's a Christian.
Now he's possible.
I happen, um, actually we getthat far with people like a
two-hour in him, but um, he,yeah, he was just telling the
story Because he was telling thegenerals and stuff, yeah yeah,
(15:07):
the hierarchy Of the and eventhe angel Hierarchy also.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Thank you for listening To the Double A Club.
Listen to us next episode tocontinue this topic.
If you want to reach us on theemail, it's doubleaclubpodcast
at gmailcom.
Catch you on the next one.
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is
your host, ny Boom, and myco-host, big Daz.
We'll be talking about trendingtopics in healthcare and
basically, just as a disclaimerjust to let the listeners know
that this is just basically onour opinions and speculations
(00:24):
and I hope you guys enjoy theshow.
Let's start off and kick offwith our first topic.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And that brings me to this father who's famous in the
Catholic Church, Father GabrielAmor.
And they made a movie on thisguy.
This guy is the main characterin the Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh, the Pope, the original one.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, but the movie it's called the Pope.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, oh, it's called the Pope.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, so that's not the original Exorcist, that's a
whole other Exorcist movie.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is a whole different movie.
It's not the Exorcist.
The movie is called the Pope'sExorcist.
Basically, it is specificallythe story about this one pope
who is the specific exorcist forthe Catholic Church, and it's
out in movie theaters right now.
It's with what's this guy'sactor's name?
(01:39):
I think it's the guy who played300.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Damn, I forgot his name.
Yeah, I forget his name too.
Yeah, I know who he's overthere.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I forget his name too, but he's the main
character.
He's the Pope in this movie andFather Gabriel Amor, and the
character is based on a realexorcist.
You know, you can look him up.
It is believed that FatherGabriel conducted over 60,000
(02:05):
exorcisms.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Sam, I'm really mad that I forgot that guy's name.
But yeah, Wow, that's a lot ofexorcisms.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, yes, and the reason why it's a lot of
exorcisms is because of FatherGabriel's philosophy, right?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You said 300, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
No, yeah, he was in the movie 300.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The main actor no, no , no, not the movie, not the guy
.
You said 255,.
You said how?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
many episodes 60,000.
60,000.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
60,000.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, yeah, that's a hell of a lot more than I
thought.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You also have to understand Father Gabriel's
philosophy.
His philosophy was like this Ifyou come up to him and you say
hello and you give me a blessing, he'd give you a blessing and
that's him exercising a demon ina way.
A lot of his exorcisms werevery mild and small exorcisms,
(03:07):
but he did have some bigexorcisms.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, I get you.
Now it is 60,000 because he dida lot of minor exorcisms.
Okay, I get it, I get it.
So in the movie, the demon thathe exorcised was the demon of
lust and the prince of hell,asmodeus, and I'm going to get
(03:29):
into Asmodeus right after thisFather Gabriel story.
Famous exorcism stories that heparticipated in was the
Osmodeus Exorcism and, like Isaid, if you watch the movie
(03:53):
you'll see what I'm talkingabout.
I don't think that the movie iscompletely accurate.
Yes, I think they fabricated alot of stuff, but I think
there's things in that moviethat is somewhat true.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So Father Gabriel also was famous for stating that
Hitler and Stalin werepossessed also.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Hitler and Stalin Okay.
And in the movie you'll seethat he kind of said see, I was
right, I was right you'll see.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So, because of his work with the church, he created
an international association ofexorcist that has been approved
by the Vatican since 2014.
So this is not no fake shitright here.
This is some real shit righthere.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, since 2014.
Since 2014.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yep Alright.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Go, go ahead.
No, no, you say are well.
Well, I'm gonna use a.
Well, yeah, I'm just out to anew bus in it a good number of
years well, that is pretty goodnews, well the on more.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm all year in a, a very powerful demon and he would
be categorized in the secondtier of that hierarchy.
He was one of the.
He's basically almost like youcan count him as like the second
.
Maybe he's like the second orthe third right-hand man for the
devil, maybe like a highcaptain.
(05:48):
He would be like he'd be like aCFO or CEO to a company.
That's how Paul did.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I was, um, when I was looking, when my research, I
was looking up this guy, uh,john Ramirez, he's, he's
Catholic, not Christian now.
Yeah, he's Christian now, um,but he used to um be like I
guess he broke down those thoseangels and demons, like the
(06:20):
levels and captains and all thatlike you are right now and he's
, he was saying a lot of thingswith um, because when he was
younger he said he, he got intothe demon world at the age of
seven and uh, he was, and sincethen, at the age of like nine he
(06:44):
was, he already started castingspells.
But yeah, his story is reallycrazy, like when, when I was
like watching these dude, he'slike really grasping, I don't
know.
But uh, he did a lot of thingswhen he was younger and he, he
was always into like the demonicworld and stuff.
(07:07):
He said like numbers was a bigthing, like, like numbers was a
big thing, like in their, intheir thing, like there's 21,
there's five, there's six,there's seven, like they all
mean something very strong.
But he's also mentioned thenames of these, these uh, demons
(07:35):
and angels, and the categoriesand how the generals and the
minions yeah, and it's crazybecause it's very like when you
do an exorcism.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
From what I understand, it's extremely
important to figure out the nameof the demon first before you
can do anything, because if youdon't figure that out, you'll
never know you don't know whatyou're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, because you could be just being played or
manipulated or fooled easily.
Because if you know the demons,you know the weakness.
I guess, yeah, it makes a lotof sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So what else you got on this guy?
Ramirez.
He um well weird at his namebecause he sounds to me he
sounds like a serial killer fromCalifornia.
There's a serial killerCalifornia who has a similar
name.
I know his name is Ramirez,that's well.
That's why I don't know if hisfirst name is the same thing,
but he also was.
(08:35):
He was a devil cult activistand he followed.
He followed Satanism and hesaid that the devil would tell
him to kill the people and whathe would do is that he would
break into people's houses itwas normally elderly people who
sneak in through their windowand kill them while they're
(08:56):
sleeping or watching TV orwhatever and then he'd leave.
He did this.
I think he had like 20 victims,20, 30 victims, Wow and they
based a couple of movies on thisguy too.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Jesus, 20 victims, that's pretty high.
I could imagine that's horrible.
But nah, the way this guy brokedown, john was breaking down.
If that was the case, he wasn'tthe one, he would be the one
casting the spell and that dude,the demon would go to that dude
(09:33):
and the demon's the one in thespell and that dude, the demon
would go to that dude and thedemon's the one in his head
telling him to go kill them, todo that, to do all that, and
that's yeah, he broke that downlike that.
That's how it would be, becausehe wasn't.
I mean, I guess you couldconsider him a murderer or
(09:54):
anything, but he wouldn't do themurder.
He would cast spells.
He broke it down.
He said he would like getsomething.
He'll get like a little doll orsomething and he'll do some
like chicken blood or like heputs bones and like he.
It was like a witch.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, he was a werewolf yeah, he ended up being
.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
He said his father was a warlord, he ended up being
the world.
We did all those things and andhe would do the spells.
And I hope, and he said thesame thing, he'll do.
So if you find the example likehe'll do it to a neighborhood,
to or a church, he'll go overover there and he'll find, he'll
(10:45):
find spots like four cornersand he'll put his, his it was
like it would be like a santa,santa ria thing like dolls,
bones, chickens, whatever, um,all mixed up and put in one spot
and then he'll go to the nextcorner, hopefully on the other
side, else around the area, andthat's what happens yep, he's
(11:11):
marking seriously, and that'show he gains his power by the
negative stuff yes, yes, he didsay that to me.
He, you know, he came in at theage of seven.
He was found because, um, yeah,he was found because, um, he
(11:33):
says that a bracelet fell fromout of nowhere.
It just fell right in front ofhim from out of nowhere, it just
fell right in front of me,picked it up.
From the moment that he pickedit up, he put it on and it
didn't come off of him.
Yeah, and, like I said earlier,by the age of 80, he was
casting spells and he was doingit for, oh, he was also drinking
(11:58):
blood for demons, offerings fordemons, taking down anything,
any protective walls of churchesand homes.
And he, yeah, he did do thecloning, the bones, the papers,
(12:26):
the spells and, um, well, soafter that he got, when he came,
you know, into the warlordstuff.
He would go in and do, uh,gangs and stuff too, like if you
find the shooting, you'll seesome, you'll find something
somewhere on that block.
That was those, those alsothere, that was also one was
(12:49):
casting those cells.
And then, when he came, when hewent to, where was it?
He met Fidel Castro's Woodstock.
This is when he moved, when hemoved over.
(13:15):
After he moved, he was like20-something 24 or something
like that.
He said mid-20s.
He met fidel castles, uh hadwhich doctor and um, his name
was three rule over there.
(13:40):
But when he came over here toAmerica he changed it to Tango.
He was, he was in the run fromfrom castro because they had a,
(14:03):
they had a.
They didn't have a good falloutlike they have.
They split together.
They didn't have a good fallout, bad uh argument.
And he was one of the biggestdrug dealers in Central America.
When he became Chavo, it'sChavo, sorry, not Chavo Chavo.
(14:27):
That's why I crossed that oneout.
His name was Chavo when he gotto Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Did he change changes religion eventually?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
yeah, he's a Christian.
Now he's possible.
I happen, um, actually we getthat far with people like a
two-hour in him, but um, he,yeah, he was just telling the
story Because he was telling thegenerals and stuff, yeah yeah,
(15:07):
the hierarchy Of the and eventhe angel Hierarchy also.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Thank you for listening To the Double A Club.
Listen to us next episode tocontinue this topic.
If you want to reach us on theemail, it's doubleaclubpodcast
at gmailcom.
Catch you on the next one.
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