August 25, 2025 • 26 mins
We explore the dark underbelly of modern cults and scams, examining the psychological tactics used by leaders to manipulate followers and extract money through false promises.
• NXIVM cult led by Keith Rainier charged members thousands for workshops that psychologically degraded them
• Women in NXIVM's DOS subgroup were branded with the leader's initials and told his semen had "supernatural qualities"
• Brazilian medium João Teixeira de Faria makes $10 million annually selling herbs and performing unproven "psychic surgeries"
• Satan Con in Salem reveals Satanists focus more on personal freedom than the stereotypical devil worship
• Criminal justice PhD student caught for murder through DNA evidence in a public genealogy database
• Discussion of ethical concerns regarding police use of consumer DNA databases for criminal investigations
Email us at doubleaclubpodcast@gmail.com with topics you'd like us to cover in future episodes.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is
your host, ny Boom, and myco-host, big Daz.
We'll be talking about trendingtopics in healthcare and
basically, just as a disclaimerjust to let the listeners know
that this is just basically onour opinions and speculations
(00:24):
and I hope you guys enjoy theshow.
Let's start off and kick offwith our first topic.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, so I got this other organization.
It's called NXIVM.
It's spelled N-X-I-V-M,nxivm-v-m, nixivian.
Yeah, okay, and it's run bythis person.
His name is Keith Rainier, whowas in prison for racketeering
(00:58):
and sexual offenses.
The group extends from the US,canada and Mexico, and this
group has also been on the NewYork Times.
Rainier was indicted for sextrafficking, sexual exploitation
of children, possession ofchild pornography, identity
(01:23):
theft and extortion.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh wow, this guy just keeps it going.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
He's an outlaw, huh.
He's an outlaw, yeah, and hehas also created subgroups to
continue his exploitation.
One of his subgroups is calledJNES, which started in 2006, and
it's targeted only women.
A high-profile member of thisorganization is Allison Mack,
(01:57):
who is the actress on Smallville.
Oh.
This group would brainwash womenthat they were irresponsible,
narcissistic, self-absorbed, andthey usually cast themselves as
victims.
(02:17):
They had 11 workshops and eachworkshop would last about 8 days
and it would cost the members$5,000 each.
So yeah, he's making money.
The second subgroup is calledSociety of Protectors, Founded
(02:39):
in 2011,.
This subgroup catered to menmen and it was supposed to build
characters, turn boys into men,and they would have to make a
down payment of 1500 to becomemembers oh nice yes the female
(03:02):
yep now the third one.
Yeah, the third one is DOS,d-o-s, founded in 2015 and it's
the initials of a Latin meaning,and the meaning is lord or
(03:23):
master of the obedient femalecompanion.
So if you translate that intoLatin, that would be DOS.
So this subgroup was the elitewomen's group designed to be the
(03:46):
slave masters.
The members would have to givecollateral to join the group.
The collateral would usually benude pictures.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Collateral would usually be what.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Nude pictures.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, pictures.
Oh okay, you could be a memberas a woman.
You would have to send a nudepicture of yourself and boom
voila, you're a member oh,that's what we thought so the
woman in the women in this clubwill be put on strict diet.
(04:24):
And they were branded withRainier keifer in years initials
.
They are something yeah, yeahyeah, mine, basically, basically
, yeah, basically branded them.
He was like yo, this is mine,so this fuckwad would tell women
(04:58):
that having sex with him wouldheal them that his semen had
supernatural qualities.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yo, like, how can you believethis shit?
Give me that one.
How can you believe this shitfor real?
Like I'm going to stop righthere.
Real quick, right, you knowit's always said that women are
(05:23):
the smartest species out of thetwo, right?
But if you're that smart, howthe fuck do you believe that
this man's sperm hassupernatural fucking quality?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hey, you don't know, he's probably on a good fruit
diet and he probably tastesreally good.
So if he tastes that good,Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So this subgroup will conduct classes to degrade the
women right and these classeswill last 16 days, 12 hours each
day, and they cost them $7,500to be degraded it's, it's, it's
got inside no, no, the one class.
(06:16):
One class is 16 days and and inthose 16 days you got 12 shifts
each day and it will cost atotal of $7,500.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So $7,500, that's actually not that bad.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
$7,500 for 16 days to be degraded.
You think that's not bad?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You mean to get degraded, I guess, but they're
in an excluded place, right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I don't know.
They didn't tell you, they weretelling you something it
doesn't.
That shit.
You know, if you go toDominican Republic or go to
Punta Cana, right, and you canstay at one of those resorts for
16 days, it's going to cost youseven grand and that place is
(07:07):
all inclusive.
Yeah, nah, that shit's notworking.
Get the fuck out of here, sothis.
this group also conduct thesehuman experiments called
frightight Study, and thisFright Study would expose
members to disturbing videos ofdecapitation.
(07:29):
They would also they also haveinfected over 300 members with
an unidentified disease.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, that's 75% right there Just to get infected
.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Bunch of, bunch of.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So A bunch of fucking crooks.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I see, that's a scumbag bro.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, that's a scumbag bro, Branding people and
all that shit.
So my next one right is this Ibelieve he's Brazilian, I think
so.
So his name is Jao Teixeira deFaria.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's a medium right huh, he's a medium we need a
medium medium that's like so wesaw the other was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He was exposed on CNN , abc News and even the Oprah
Winfrey Show.
So this man sells herbs to kill, to cure ailments, and it's
said that he earns over $10million a year selling these
(09:04):
herbs.
Wow, for real.
Like if I can make $10 millionand make oregano and tell you
that it's going to cure all yourdiseases and pain, yo I need to
start fucking setting up mygarden For real.
That's some big whop rightthere.
(09:25):
Jow is also known forperforming and you're going to
laugh at this Psychic surgery.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Wow yeah yeah.
That is impressive.
Psychic surgery yes, psychicsurgery.
I need to know the details here.
What else?
What is psychic surgery?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
There's no details about this shit, bro.
The surgery, this supposedsurgery, has yet to be proven to
be effective.
I don't know what he does.
He hypnotizes people.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't know, but people line up to pay $5,000 to
$10,000 for this supposedlypsychic surgery taking away
(10:37):
their tumor or something withoutdoing, without even getting cut
.
No, but he like if he did, I,didn't I be talking through
someone else while they're doingthe surgery like I.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Don't.
All I know is that in thearticle they had no, no person
here.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
No, very secure.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was zero results.
Nobody came on today and hecured me.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Nobody, nobody said any, they just so hey, right,
huh, plenty of people pay right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh Fuck, is making over 10 million.
Bro Is Pablo Escobar.
Without the cocaine she's, I amyou oh.
Man, that was fun.
(11:40):
Oh man, million is worth thefucking cocaine, bro, for real.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To be a scumbag.
It really pays off.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That is the one thing that these organizations, these
cults, or whatever you want tofucking call them right they
have.
They're fucking scumbags whotry to rob innocent people of
hopes and dreams and faith.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh yeah, I totally agree with that.
That's crazy, like psychicsurgery.
He's already rich and hasn'tgot a cure.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He's dicing you up and curing your cancer.
He's cutting you up and curingyour broken bones without a
knife.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He's using his mind, yeah yeah, he doesn't even get
to do it.
You know you go through theprocedure, alright.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I guess they prep him .
I don't know, maybe they prephim with fucking holding water.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't know, that's hilarious, what you got.
Oh, man, I got.
This has caught my eye.
There is a Satan Con whenPeople gather.
(13:11):
Actually it's one of those whenpeople gather up and go to
church have prayers I don'tthink they're called prayers,
but up and go to church haveprayers I'll be the corporate
(13:32):
but we talk to say, in my case,they are past the word of having
your own to be free withoutworshiping.
So it was pretty.
I saw this thing, khan, sayingcons out of Boston, over in
Salem, one of the biggest gas.
(13:53):
It is the biggest gathering ofSatanists, satanists.
No, they're all calledSatanists, oh, satanists.
And you know Salem actually hasthe biggest witchcraft
(14:18):
community.
That is in Boston.
So and comb of the Satan Satantemple, which I was looking at,
this and I really like, I gottasay one thing.
I really I guess they, theyprobably did it, so you know you
(14:39):
don't get it, but they, theydon't seem like they like.
So they're like like all thatdevil worshipping things, stuff,
the freedom of choice.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, so kind of like atheists, huh, kind of like
atheists Like atheists.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's very similar to atheists.
It is very similar to atheists,like that's what they, you know
, give the word on and they alsohave an abortion clinic and
(15:32):
it's actually called the SalemAllot's Mom's Abortion Clinic
and over there they wereactually losing the same con
because it was actually finallyopened.
They were fighting for actuallya couple of years to open that,
actually losing the samecompany because it was actually
finally opened.
They, they were fightingfashion a couple of years open
that um, uh, abortion clinic andthey were open because, uh,
they're because of their belief.
(15:54):
They just believe that.
You know, you have to, you haveto choice, which, I don't know,
that's debatable for me, Idon't know, I wouldn't do it,
that's just my choice.
But they have actually what else?
They were actually produced,like a couple years ago some guy
(16:19):
actually made the church andthey have a pastor, uh, ordained
pastor at that.
He's ordained and he doesdivorces up on baptisms and they
were actually practicing onewhile I was checking this thing
out and it was pretty crazy,supposed to.
(16:41):
It's like annoying, I don'tknow, I can't say that.
But what I mean is like youdon't you?
I didn't expect what I saw.
You know, like they were justspeaking more about having the
having not to worship.
I'm not calling on names, Ijust want to take care of myself
(17:04):
.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So what did you?
What did you expect when, when,when you started your research?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I guess I was being what do you say?
I'm trying to think of the wordLike uh, I don't know.
I'm trying to say like I guessI was expecting I was being like
um I forgot the word I'm tryingto get, but I definitely was
being like um.
(17:37):
I forgot the word I'm trying toget, but I definitely was like
like Horn people coming in withhorns or like looking crazy like
.
They were very.
They were very.
A lot of them were got this,but it wasn't like they were
talking about killing people.
(17:59):
I mean suffering abortion, ifyou want to technically term
that, or doing like like uh,pouring blood, out pouring blood
.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you thought they were going to have satanic
rituals and they didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So you were stereotyping.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's what I was trying to get out.
I was stereotyping.
I was definitely stereotyping.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, it's good that you took a look at it and found
out what they were really about,and now you know that that
impression that you had at firstwas incorrect.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, definitely I was.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So what else do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, no, pretty much it.
It no worshiping things,because the same kind of
actually interesting.
It's just too long, it wasn'tlonger, it was just uh, it was
mainly just a big-ass communityso all right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So let's, uh, let's end this.
Um, let's, uh, you know I'mgonna bring up this one last
story, which is kind of crazyand, um, it ties in to to
previous topics that we talkedabout with AI and all that stuff
.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, there's this grad student who has a PhD in
criminal justice and criminology, and his name is Brian
Christopher Goldberger.
Brian Christopher Kohlberger,kohlberger, kohlberger.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Kohlberger Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So he was arrested for murder Nice.
He was accused of murderingfour students from the
University of Ohio and it'scrazy how police found this guy,
(20:34):
police found this stuff.
They identified Brian using apublic genealogy database, using
DNA that was left on the scene.
So you know, like yeah, yeah,you know that that company, that
(21:02):
kind of like they say thatthey'll find, like your family
members and all that you justgive them some DNA I forget what
it's called, but you know, youswab your mouth and you send um,
you send it to them and theyand they, um, they find your
relatives and stuff like thatbased on your uh, dna.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, yeah, like, uh, yeah, I know what you're
talking about.
They find you at ancestrycom.
Yes, Ancestrycom.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Thank you.
Well, that's how they foundthis guy.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That's crazy.
It's awesome, sweet, calm dotcom what they like.
So you're telling me, like theguy's daughter or something, or
(22:05):
son or grandson, kid, whatever,did an ancestry dot com and they
found him.
Um, maybe, maybe he did ithimself to find out his family
members don't know, and theyfound him Maybe.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Maybe he did it himself to find out.
His family members don't knowtoo much about it, but there was
DNA left in the crime scene andthat DNA tied into the
Ancestrycom database and that'show they found him.
(22:36):
But oh, it's this guy.
This guy is the one who gave usthe DNA.
It had to be him.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It wasn't a family member, hmm so wait, let me get
this straight.
Yeah, go ahead, just tounderstand this story.
So you're telling me this guyDid a crime?
Yes, and the cops came to thecrime scene, yeah, they found
(23:08):
some DNA.
Yes, and because the what theancestrycom can do, they were
able to find this guy, which isthe murder.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay, yeah, because he already gave up his DNA for
his got you so they didn't haveto search for him.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
yeah, so they have to .
Ok, so they have to search forhim.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, they didn't have to.
Ancestrycom did it for them.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I know, that's what I'm saying.
He was already on record.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, wow, that's crazy, butactually could have been
somebody else that did it.
But because Ancestrycom alreadyhas DNA a file, something like
(24:02):
that could have.
Yeah, okay, nine friends were.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That was a crazy story.
Yes, that was a crazy story.
Yes, I thought it was going tobe used going forward, because
if it can be used to prove thatthat's like against.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I feel like that should be against the law.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, remember we talked about these.
Companies are fighting, butthere's nothing as of yet.
They haven't said it as againstthe law or anything.
So until it's unlawful it'sgoing to be, or anything I got
you.
So until it's unlawful it'sgoing to be used lawfully.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I got you yeah, the cops will do whatever they want
and they can.
That's true, that's true.
Alright, that's the end of ourshow.
Alright, guys, have a good one.
If you got any questions, ifyou want any topics that you
(25:25):
guys want to hear, please let usknow email us at
doubleaclubpodcast at gmailcomalright, have a good one, guys,
bye, bye thanks for listening toour show.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
This concludes our episode.
And listen up to the nextepisode to follow up on what
continuing topics and trends wehave going on, and just to
continue to listen to your boy,ny Boom Boom, and co-hosts Big
Daz, and listen to our points ofviews and maybe you can add on
(26:05):
to it if you want.
But we'll catch you on the nextone.
Alright, have a good one.
Peace out, fellas.
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is
your host, ny Boom, and myco-host, big Daz.
We'll be talking about trendingtopics in healthcare and
basically, just as a disclaimerjust to let the listeners know
that this is just basically onour opinions and speculations
(00:24):
and I hope you guys enjoy theshow.
Let's start off and kick offwith our first topic.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, so I got this other organization.
It's called NXIVM.
It's spelled N-X-I-V-M,nxivm-v-m, nixivian.
Yeah, okay, and it's run bythis person.
His name is Keith Rainier, whowas in prison for racketeering
(00:58):
and sexual offenses.
The group extends from the US,canada and Mexico, and this
group has also been on the NewYork Times.
Rainier was indicted for sextrafficking, sexual exploitation
of children, possession ofchild pornography, identity
(01:23):
theft and extortion.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh wow, this guy just keeps it going.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
He's an outlaw, huh.
He's an outlaw, yeah, and hehas also created subgroups to
continue his exploitation.
One of his subgroups is calledJNES, which started in 2006, and
it's targeted only women.
A high-profile member of thisorganization is Allison Mack,
(01:57):
who is the actress on Smallville.
Oh.
This group would brainwash womenthat they were irresponsible,
narcissistic, self-absorbed, andthey usually cast themselves as
victims.
(02:17):
They had 11 workshops and eachworkshop would last about 8 days
and it would cost the members$5,000 each.
So yeah, he's making money.
The second subgroup is calledSociety of Protectors, Founded
(02:39):
in 2011,.
This subgroup catered to menmen and it was supposed to build
characters, turn boys into men,and they would have to make a
down payment of 1500 to becomemembers oh nice yes the female
(03:02):
yep now the third one.
Yeah, the third one is DOS,d-o-s, founded in 2015 and it's
the initials of a Latin meaning,and the meaning is lord or
(03:23):
master of the obedient femalecompanion.
So if you translate that intoLatin, that would be DOS.
So this subgroup was the elitewomen's group designed to be the
(03:46):
slave masters.
The members would have to givecollateral to join the group.
The collateral would usually benude pictures.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Collateral would usually be what.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Nude pictures.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, pictures.
Oh okay, you could be a memberas a woman.
You would have to send a nudepicture of yourself and boom
voila, you're a member oh,that's what we thought so the
woman in the women in this clubwill be put on strict diet.
(04:24):
And they were branded withRainier keifer in years initials
.
They are something yeah, yeahyeah, mine, basically, basically
, yeah, basically branded them.
He was like yo, this is mine,so this fuckwad would tell women
(04:58):
that having sex with him wouldheal them that his semen had
supernatural qualities.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yo, like, how can you believethis shit?
Give me that one.
How can you believe this shitfor real?
Like I'm going to stop righthere.
Real quick, right, you knowit's always said that women are
(05:23):
the smartest species out of thetwo, right?
But if you're that smart, howthe fuck do you believe that
this man's sperm hassupernatural fucking quality?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hey, you don't know, he's probably on a good fruit
diet and he probably tastesreally good.
So if he tastes that good,Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So this subgroup will conduct classes to degrade the
women right and these classeswill last 16 days, 12 hours each
day, and they cost them $7,500to be degraded it's, it's, it's
got inside no, no, the one class.
(06:16):
One class is 16 days and and inthose 16 days you got 12 shifts
each day and it will cost atotal of $7,500.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So $7,500, that's actually not that bad.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
$7,500 for 16 days to be degraded.
You think that's not bad?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You mean to get degraded, I guess, but they're
in an excluded place, right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I don't know.
They didn't tell you, they weretelling you something it
doesn't.
That shit.
You know, if you go toDominican Republic or go to
Punta Cana, right, and you canstay at one of those resorts for
16 days, it's going to cost youseven grand and that place is
(07:07):
all inclusive.
Yeah, nah, that shit's notworking.
Get the fuck out of here, sothis.
this group also conduct thesehuman experiments called
frightight Study, and thisFright Study would expose
members to disturbing videos ofdecapitation.
(07:29):
They would also they also haveinfected over 300 members with
an unidentified disease.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, that's 75% right there Just to get infected
.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Bunch of, bunch of.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So A bunch of fucking crooks.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I see, that's a scumbag bro.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, that's a scumbag bro, Branding people and
all that shit.
So my next one right is this Ibelieve he's Brazilian, I think
so.
So his name is Jao Teixeira deFaria.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's a medium right huh, he's a medium we need a
medium medium that's like so wesaw the other was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He was exposed on CNN , abc News and even the Oprah
Winfrey Show.
So this man sells herbs to kill, to cure ailments, and it's
said that he earns over $10million a year selling these
(09:04):
herbs.
Wow, for real.
Like if I can make $10 millionand make oregano and tell you
that it's going to cure all yourdiseases and pain, yo I need to
start fucking setting up mygarden For real.
That's some big whop rightthere.
(09:25):
Jow is also known forperforming and you're going to
laugh at this Psychic surgery.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Wow yeah yeah.
That is impressive.
Psychic surgery yes, psychicsurgery.
I need to know the details here.
What else?
What is psychic surgery?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
There's no details about this shit, bro.
The surgery, this supposedsurgery, has yet to be proven to
be effective.
I don't know what he does.
He hypnotizes people.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't know, but people line up to pay $5,000 to
$10,000 for this supposedlypsychic surgery taking away
(10:37):
their tumor or something withoutdoing, without even getting cut
.
No, but he like if he did, I,didn't I be talking through
someone else while they're doingthe surgery like I.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Don't.
All I know is that in thearticle they had no, no person
here.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
No, very secure.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was zero results.
Nobody came on today and hecured me.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Nobody, nobody said any, they just so hey, right,
huh, plenty of people pay right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh Fuck, is making over 10 million.
Bro Is Pablo Escobar.
Without the cocaine she's, I amyou oh.
Man, that was fun.
(11:40):
Oh man, million is worth thefucking cocaine, bro, for real.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To be a scumbag.
It really pays off.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That is the one thing that these organizations, these
cults, or whatever you want tofucking call them right they
have.
They're fucking scumbags whotry to rob innocent people of
hopes and dreams and faith.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh yeah, I totally agree with that.
That's crazy, like psychicsurgery.
He's already rich and hasn'tgot a cure.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He's dicing you up and curing your cancer.
He's cutting you up and curingyour broken bones without a
knife.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He's using his mind, yeah yeah, he doesn't even get
to do it.
You know you go through theprocedure, alright.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I guess they prep him .
I don't know, maybe they prephim with fucking holding water.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't know, that's hilarious, what you got.
Oh, man, I got.
This has caught my eye.
There is a Satan Con whenPeople gather.
(13:11):
Actually it's one of those whenpeople gather up and go to
church have prayers I don'tthink they're called prayers,
but up and go to church haveprayers I'll be the corporate
(13:32):
but we talk to say, in my case,they are past the word of having
your own to be free withoutworshiping.
So it was pretty.
I saw this thing, khan, sayingcons out of Boston, over in
Salem, one of the biggest gas.
(13:53):
It is the biggest gathering ofSatanists, satanists.
No, they're all calledSatanists, oh, satanists.
And you know Salem actually hasthe biggest witchcraft
(14:18):
community.
That is in Boston.
So and comb of the Satan Satantemple, which I was looking at,
this and I really like, I gottasay one thing.
I really I guess they, theyprobably did it, so you know you
(14:39):
don't get it, but they, theydon't seem like they like.
So they're like like all thatdevil worshipping things, stuff,
the freedom of choice.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, so kind of like atheists, huh, kind of like
atheists Like atheists.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's very similar to atheists.
It is very similar to atheists,like that's what they, you know
, give the word on and they alsohave an abortion clinic and
(15:32):
it's actually called the SalemAllot's Mom's Abortion Clinic
and over there they wereactually losing the same con
because it was actually finallyopened.
They were fighting for actuallya couple of years to open that,
actually losing the samecompany because it was actually
finally opened.
They, they were fightingfashion a couple of years open
that um, uh, abortion clinic andthey were open because, uh,
they're because of their belief.
(15:54):
They just believe that.
You know, you have to, you haveto choice, which, I don't know,
that's debatable for me, Idon't know, I wouldn't do it,
that's just my choice.
But they have actually what else?
They were actually produced,like a couple years ago some guy
(16:19):
actually made the church andthey have a pastor, uh, ordained
pastor at that.
He's ordained and he doesdivorces up on baptisms and they
were actually practicing onewhile I was checking this thing
out and it was pretty crazy,supposed to.
(16:41):
It's like annoying, I don'tknow, I can't say that.
But what I mean is like youdon't you?
I didn't expect what I saw.
You know, like they were justspeaking more about having the
having not to worship.
I'm not calling on names, Ijust want to take care of myself
(17:04):
.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So what did you?
What did you expect when, when,when you started your research?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I guess I was being what do you say?
I'm trying to think of the wordLike uh, I don't know.
I'm trying to say like I guessI was expecting I was being like
um I forgot the word I'm tryingto get, but I definitely was
being like um.
(17:37):
I forgot the word I'm trying toget, but I definitely was like
like Horn people coming in withhorns or like looking crazy like
.
They were very.
They were very.
A lot of them were got this,but it wasn't like they were
talking about killing people.
(17:59):
I mean suffering abortion, ifyou want to technically term
that, or doing like like uh,pouring blood, out pouring blood
.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you thought they were going to have satanic
rituals and they didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So you were stereotyping.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's what I was trying to get out.
I was stereotyping.
I was definitely stereotyping.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, it's good that you took a look at it and found
out what they were really about,and now you know that that
impression that you had at firstwas incorrect.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, definitely I was.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So what else do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, no, pretty much it.
It no worshiping things,because the same kind of
actually interesting.
It's just too long, it wasn'tlonger, it was just uh, it was
mainly just a big-ass communityso all right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So let's, uh, let's end this.
Um, let's, uh, you know I'mgonna bring up this one last
story, which is kind of crazyand, um, it ties in to to
previous topics that we talkedabout with AI and all that stuff
.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, there's this grad student who has a PhD in
criminal justice and criminology, and his name is Brian
Christopher Goldberger.
Brian Christopher Kohlberger,kohlberger, kohlberger.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Kohlberger Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So he was arrested for murder Nice.
He was accused of murderingfour students from the
University of Ohio and it'scrazy how police found this guy,
(20:34):
police found this stuff.
They identified Brian using apublic genealogy database, using
DNA that was left on the scene.
So you know, like yeah, yeah,you know that that company, that
(21:02):
kind of like they say thatthey'll find, like your family
members and all that you justgive them some DNA I forget what
it's called, but you know, youswab your mouth and you send um,
you send it to them and theyand they, um, they find your
relatives and stuff like thatbased on your uh, dna.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, yeah, like, uh, yeah, I know what you're
talking about.
They find you at ancestrycom.
Yes, Ancestrycom.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Thank you.
Well, that's how they foundthis guy.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That's crazy.
It's awesome, sweet, calm dotcom what they like.
So you're telling me, like theguy's daughter or something, or
(22:05):
son or grandson, kid, whatever,did an ancestry dot com and they
found him.
Um, maybe, maybe he did ithimself to find out his family
members don't know, and theyfound him Maybe.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Maybe he did it himself to find out.
His family members don't knowtoo much about it, but there was
DNA left in the crime scene andthat DNA tied into the
Ancestrycom database and that'show they found him.
(22:36):
But oh, it's this guy.
This guy is the one who gave usthe DNA.
It had to be him.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It wasn't a family member, hmm so wait, let me get
this straight.
Yeah, go ahead, just tounderstand this story.
So you're telling me this guyDid a crime?
Yes, and the cops came to thecrime scene, yeah, they found
(23:08):
some DNA.
Yes, and because the what theancestrycom can do, they were
able to find this guy, which isthe murder.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay, yeah, because he already gave up his DNA for
his got you so they didn't haveto search for him.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
yeah, so they have to .
Ok, so they have to search forhim.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, they didn't have to.
Ancestrycom did it for them.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I know, that's what I'm saying.
He was already on record.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, wow, that's crazy, butactually could have been
somebody else that did it.
But because Ancestrycom alreadyhas DNA a file, something like
(24:02):
that could have.
Yeah, okay, nine friends were.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That was a crazy story.
Yes, that was a crazy story.
Yes, I thought it was going tobe used going forward, because
if it can be used to prove thatthat's like against.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I feel like that should be against the law.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, remember we talked about these.
Companies are fighting, butthere's nothing as of yet.
They haven't said it as againstthe law or anything.
So until it's unlawful it'sgoing to be, or anything I got
you.
So until it's unlawful it'sgoing to be used lawfully.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I got you yeah, the cops will do whatever they want
and they can.
That's true, that's true.
Alright, that's the end of ourshow.
Alright, guys, have a good one.
If you got any questions, ifyou want any topics that you
(25:25):
guys want to hear, please let usknow email us at
doubleaclubpodcast at gmailcomalright, have a good one, guys,
bye, bye thanks for listening toour show.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
This concludes our episode.
And listen up to the nextepisode to follow up on what
continuing topics and trends wehave going on, and just to
continue to listen to your boy,ny Boom Boom, and co-hosts Big
Daz, and listen to our points ofviews and maybe you can add on
(26:05):
to it if you want.
But we'll catch you on the nextone.
Alright, have a good one.
Peace out, fellas.
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