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DJ Black Magic and NYC Boom dive into high-profile media conflicts, exploring the dynamics of public feuds in radio and sports entertainment.

• Jess Hilarious's public meltdown regarding The Breakfast Club and her on-air segment "Jess with the Mess"
• The unprofessional nature of airing grievances on social media rather than addressing issues privately
• How Jess's behavior represents a common pattern of holding in frustrations until exploding publicly
• The business perspective that controversy often benefits media platforms by increasing viewership
• LeBron James's calculated confrontation with ESPN's Stephen A. Smith over comments about his son Bronny
• LeBron's strategic decision to discuss the incident on Pat McAfee's show instead of "First Take"
• The changing power dynamics between athletes and sports commentators in the social media era
• Discussion about Bronny James's NBA readiness and the complexities of nepotism in professional sports
• The double standard of commentators who dish out harsh criticism but struggle to receive it
• Analysis of what constitutes "pettiness" versus smart media strategy in high-profile conflicts

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is
your host, ny Boom, and myco-host, big Daz.
We'll be talking about trendingtopics and healthcare and
basically, just as a disclaimerjust to let the listeners know
that this is just basically onour opinions and speculations

(00:24):
and I hope you guys enjoy theshow.
Let's start off and kick offwith our first topic.
This is NYC Boom, coming fromthe Double A Club.
You can catch us on Spotify,amazon music, apple podcast, um

(00:47):
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you use to um listen to yourpodcast, and also you can catch
us on youtube doing some ofthese uh web series that we have
.
Um.
I have a special guest with medj black Magic.
Go, introduce how you doing.
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Great, you can see he's still got the club
atmosphere in the background.
Dude, I keep the clubatmosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You should already know how it is.
So I brought you on todaybecause I want you to talk about
this topic that's been goingsuper viral within the last week
.
Actually, it started last weekor maybe 10 days ago with the

(01:40):
comedian Jess Hilarious and herissues with the members from the
Breakfast Club and she just toa little little rundown she had.
She had a meltdown.
She got on live stream on herinstagram account or something,
I don't know what it was.
It was a live stream and sheliterally let the people on her

(02:02):
live stream get too muchinformation on the business
aspect behind the scenes of theshow and how she feels about the
show and certain people on theshow.
So and you know me, I felt thatthat was super unprofessional.

(02:29):
She shouldn't have done that onlive TV.
I mean, like I don't have theexperience that they have to be
on this national televised, evenradio, platform because they're
on YouTube and they're on theradio.
I don't have that experience,but I do have experience of
knowing how to get fired andthat's one way to get fired.

(02:51):
I have plenty of experience onhow to get fired and I know what
Jess Hilarious did will get youfired.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's funny because it'll get you fired in a normal
job.
But I think the reason whyshe's able to get away with one
it pissed envy off.
I don't think that was playingaround.
It really pissed envy off, um,but she got away with it because
it brought more eyes to thestation.
It's almost like that EricBischoff thing Controversy

(03:28):
creates cash, right.
That's true especially in media.
I mean, look at everythingthat's going on today.
You get somebody to get eyes onyou.
Put it this way Even look atsocial media.
What do they say?
Negative is just as good aspositive, right?
Because it's got people witheyes on you.
I understood Jess Hilarious'spoint right.

(03:51):
My problem with Jess Hilariousand it's been that way through a
while and out.
It's been that way.
I don't know if you realize youever heard of the comedian
Country Wayne?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, yeah, she used to date country Wayne, yes, yes,
and she has beef with uh,awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Jeffrey Holcomb Holcomb, but, but that, no, no,
corey Holcomb, but Corey Holcomb.
But the thing is, corey Holcombgot beef with everybody and
they're they're positively thesame type of character.
Yeah, my thing with her is thisis something that you could
have mentioned she's one ofthose that holds in and we've

(04:31):
had friends like this growing upright, where something's
bothering somebody, they don'tsay something and then at the
last minute, here they come andthey're like oh, but you said
this, said this and that.
All right, but I said that twoweeks ago you was laughing and
joking about it.
Now today you upset and youwant to fight about it.
You understand, that's her.

(04:52):
The reason why I said she won'tget fired behind it is because
look at what we're doing rightnow.
People are making podcasts.
Behind it it's made newsstories, so everybody wants to
see what's going on with Power105 right now.
Now I listen to her point.
I believe her point.

(05:12):
I understand her point.
Her points were kind of stupid.
Well, no, no, they were.
I'm not going to say they werestupid, they made sense.
But the point was, when you sawit was a problem, why you
didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
All right, which point was it?
Because, like I remember one ofher points, so she brought the
girl in.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
She brought lauren in right.
Yes, she brought her.
So she said I'm going to be out.
I need somebody to be able todo my part.
Yes was on maternity leave.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, she was on maternity leave.
So she was on maternity leave.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Her thing is.
I think a lot of this, and Ihate to use female emotions, but
I think a lot of thispostpartum.
You know where's my career?
Is she going to be taking myspot?
But she didn't ask.
No one.
Then you understand what I'msaying.
You assumed so I come back andshe's still ask.
No one there.
You understand what I'm saying.
You assumed so I come back andshe's still here.
Well, what was you expecting youto walk in the door and us just

(06:11):
to kick her out, when you knowshe's getting us some listeners
too, so why not?
We use the both of you now?
Should somebody else have hadthat conversation with jess?
Yes, but no one knows itbothers Jess, until Jess gets on
live and has a rant.
You had an open platform.
She could have said that shiton the radio.

(06:31):
Well, they actually did.
No after the fact, yeah, afterthe fact, but you could have
said it during.
You know what I mean.
And you're worried Now.
Granted, she still is doingJess Mess or Mess to Jess,
whatever that is, and she feltlike, okay, well, if you're
gonna have her do it, let'schange the name.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But they that that's, that's what was like the
dumbest in the world like no, Ithink it's her name.
It's her name, but still, butI'm just saying still.
A lot of things are a lot ofpeople's names, and some people
cover it a little bit better.
Just leave it there, becausethat makes you know and I was
losing your job Leave.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
She doesn't think she's going to lose the job, and
if she does, she's going totake it with her.
But she made some valid points,like if you're going to have
her do that, then just rename it.
You know what I mean.
I'll put it this way my name ismy brain.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
If it's a good name, it's a good name.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, but my name is my brain, but no my name, is my
brain right?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's 97 and breakfast club.
That's not.
That's not her brain.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, that, that is because that was her name they
were using.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, but it's not her friend, so they could have
changed it to anything.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
The problem was they're saying they're not going
to change it.
They're saying that they wasn'tgoing to stop her from doing it
.
What she was saying was youknow, it's messy.
It's almost like come on, I'vehad black magic for as long as
you've known me.
I've had that since the eighthgrade.
Once I got on social media andrealized there's a Black Magic

(08:05):
in Texas.
There's a Black Magic kid.
That's still my name, right?
It's always linked now 69, tomy name, which you know I've had
for years too.
Right, it's tatted on my arm.
I'm not going to go away fromthat brand.
So if I produce the show, let'ssay me and you, we do a podcast,
right, and we call it Wombatand Magic from the whole Wombat

(08:26):
thing years ago, right?
So we did that as Wombat andMagic.
And then you would have turnedaround and get Aldo to do this
and you're still calling itWombat and Magic.
No, you change it.
That's what I built.
Magic is the name I built.
You see where I'm coming from.
So I understand.

(08:47):
But they wasn't stopping herfrom doing that.
I think they wanted them bothon the show, but as as as a
station, what they needed to dowas say, hey, now that we see
what she can do and what youcould do.
Let's do this.
You do just the mess, you dothe news or you do.
You know what I mean.
Now they got them both on theredoing dumb stuff and they don't
even and like I said, I don'teven listen to them like that

(09:08):
yeah, me either, but this onething, it's.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
It looks petty right, it's super petty bro but it's a
petty radio station show.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
The names your head guy that tells you it's petty,
right there.
And and dj envy.
I think envy, this petty, Ithink envy, could look.
You gotta remember envy wasdoing shows from hot 97 and all
that.
That show and I hate to say itis carried by charlamagne.
Yeah, it is, it's carried bycharlamagne.

(09:38):
He says the most ridiculousstuff.
You know everybody who wantedto punch somebody, it's always
Charlemagne.
Fredro was gonna beat the hellout of him.
Charlemagne Birdman,charlemagne Nelly, charlemagne.
You know what I mean.
So he is the character on thatshow and that's why I said
they're not gonna fire.
She don't want to be fired butyes, she was real petty in her

(10:01):
ring.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, and that's the thing that gets me.
And then with, uh, with, withthe whole, just with, just with
the mess um segment.
I mean, like I see what you'retalking about, but I don't agree
, because I mean, even iflauren's doing it, leave it
there, because that's the name,that's, that's it.

(10:23):
You know what I'm saying?
And because, look at, whatyou're saying.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
look's the name.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's it, you know what I'm saying, because look at
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Look at the name, it's Jess.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes and Jess with the mess.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
If Jess not giving you the mess, then make it
Lauren with the mess or Laurenwith the Lauren with the lyrics
Lauren with the news orsomething like that, because it
is her name, or they could havejust incorporating them both.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
incorporated, both of them doing the mess.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
But see, that's the thing.
I get her point on that becausethat is her thing.
That's literally her thing.
Everybody was reading the news,right?
No one was doing it in thestyle and the way Jess Hilarious
did it.
I have to give her that 100%.
She made it messy, so it's Jesswith the mess.
If you're just reading the newsand giving people information,

(11:08):
then call it Lauren's Updates.
You know what I mean.
You can't put it this way.
You can't have a Wendy Williamstype vibe show and then turn
around and Wendy leaves and youstill call it the Wendy Williams
show.
Well, that's kind of how Jessfeels with Jess, with the Mets.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But here's the thing.
They had the same thing withAngela Yee.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, but they didn't call it.
Jess with the Mets.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, they didn't call it Jess with the Mets, but they
had the same thing, but AngelaYee just read the news.
But if Angela Yee was still onthat show and let's say example,
just with the mess, came in anddid her news updates, I don't
think, angela, he would havebeen flipping out.

(11:52):
Let's change the name.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
She would have if it was called ye's news.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I think yeah, I'm saying I don't know, nobody had
nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It had nothing to do with her name.
But if it was called ye's news,you know I mean, she would not.
It was called Yeez News, youknow what I mean?
She would not have said it.
Let's say it's called Yee Meright, or Yee Wee, and then Jess
comes and starts doing it andYee is right there, but Jess is
doing her what you call it.
That's like me and you Put itthis way.

(12:23):
Why is this called the Double APodcast?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Why is it called the Double A Podcast?
Because it's a minor leaguepodcast, like Double A, like
baseball.
But that's not a play on yourname.
Yes, it is, and my brother'sname, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
So I'm not changing the name Because I know the
reason.
But yeah, but now if I took itover and still called it double
a, that wouldn't offend you.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
No why would it okay, that's what I'm saying like,
why would it offend me?
You're saying like, like, like.
There's many people who carryon like a tradition, right,
carry on a person's name or or ashow, or maybe, uh, an article
or maybe an event or something,and they carry on this name

(13:14):
because they're, they're,they're, um, they're saluting
the past or the person whobrought it.
You saying again, withwrestling, how many times have
wrestlers, um, famous wrestlers,taken over a previous
wrestler's name because it wasgiven to him, or a move, or
something?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
like that.
Only if they're keeping thesecret is there's not a
wrestling rick flair got natureboy.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Everybody knows why?
Well, it's nature boy rickflair was never his name.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Nature Boy is just a title, right?
Yeah, but that was given to himby Nature Boy's buddy.
No, he took it.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, he wouldn't give it to him.
It was given Nature.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Boy was driving it.
He didn't like it.
There was a documentary on it.
I know Nature Boy didn't likeit.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And then just wrestling moves and stuff like
that holds, but that's different.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, I'll put it this way Name one show that kept
a person's name Right.
So Look at the Arsenio Hallshow.
Look at the Steve Harvey show.
Wendy Williams, rachel Ray itis because that's their brand,
but it's not the same.
So if I had a segment On JimmyKimmel, rachel Ray, it is
because that's their brand, butit's not the same.

(14:27):
So if I had a segment on JimmyKimmel, right, and I called it
Magic's Melee, where I turnaround and I ask and Jimmy
Kimmel, don't take my idea ifyou ain't going to hire me,
anyway, magic's Melee, where Igo and I ask people ridiculous
questions just to get theirreply Right, and then they let

(14:48):
me go from the show.
I leave the show.
I'm not continuing for them todo magic's melee, I'm looking
for them to rename it.
Somebody else is doing it.
I'm looking for them to renameit because that is okay, here's
the here's, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
If you leave completely, you're not coming
back, you're fired.
Quick, let go.
Yes, I understand they willchange the name and, for example
, like Steve Wilkes, steveWilkes was doing the show under
Spring and then, when Springerstopped, he did his own show

(15:23):
under his own name.
So I understand if you leave orthen, but even if you don't, if
you're working on the show, youdon't want to leave.
Wait, wait, wait wait, wait,wait, let me finish.
But in this show that we'retalking about the Breakfast Club
, that whole segment, just withthe mess One, I guarantee you

(15:43):
she didn't even think about that.
Just with the mess one.
I guarantee you she didn't eventhink about that.
That was probably the people atthat station at the show, who
probably was trying to figureout for dangle what's the best
name, how to call it this neverbut, and just kind of continue
what angela, he was doing before, but in jess's format.
Okay, so that's not her thought, that's not her thing, that's
not her.
Let's get that straight,because that has to be approved

(16:05):
from people from that company.
Second, they're workingtogether.
She ain't leave.
So to incorporate this togetherwould have probably been a
better thing and that's whatmost people would do.
I'm telling you right nowangela yee would have never done
that, but I can promise youangela yee would have spoke up
and that's why I'm saying jesshilarious got petty.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
but she would have never done that.
But I can promise you, AngelaYee would have spoke up and
that's why I'm saying JessHilarious got petty.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
But she would have spoken up on the side, she would
have spoken up in the back.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
No, because, angela Yee, we would have never knew oh
we didn't.
We didn't know that.
We didn't even know why.
Well, look when Angela Yee leftPower 105.
No, it's Hot 97.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
No, she was.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Power 105 no.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Breakfast Club is Hot .
97, it's 105.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is it 105?
Yes, I thought it was Hot.
95, 97 is Ebro in the morning.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh fuck, Okay, I haven't been to New York for a
while.
Keep going.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh, me neither, yeah, so I just I watch.
I watch the Breakfast Clubevery once in a while, yeah, and
when Angela Yee left, she spokea lot about it.
You know what I mean.
But the way Angela Yee left,she left in style though.
Yeah, she prepared herself.
But as far as Jess, I thinkJess is one of those people

(17:23):
that's always in her feelings Ifyou look at anything, and even,
like they said, she was likewell, you see what the people
are saying in the comments, andthat's where I agree with Envy.
Envy's thing was I don't fuckabout people in comments, bro.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I think you just got caught off because you're using
too much foul language.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Somebody's trying to call me Pardon my language, I'm
sorry, but basically you knowhe's like I don't care about
what those people have to sayonline.
And I got that and his thingthat really bothered him.
What I truly understood was hesaid said I go back with you
long ways, yeah, which is youknow kind of like how me and you

(18:11):
go back.
We've been friends since kids,since teenagers.
You understand I'm saying I've,I've moved, I've lived in your
house.
You understand what I'm saying.
So if you couldn't come to meAbout something that bothered
you and you went online andstarted saying, well, magic did
this, magic did that and thiswas some punk.

(18:32):
The next thing I'm going to belike is, bro, you couldn't come
to me.
You couldn't come.
You see me everyday.
You couldn't come to me and saythis is bothering you.
Before you went online.
But she felt like she had toexplain to people who don't
matter.
That's the problem with socialmedia.
Okay, yeah, when you gotexplained to people and it don't

(18:56):
matter, you know what I mean.
They're not gonna pay you,they're no, they're not the ones
who got to see you after it.
So then you walk in there thenext morning and Envy's just
like, bro, what was that about?
And now we got to talk about it, because now I can't stay quiet
.
But he did it the right way,because he could have went and

(19:17):
said, well, I'm going to replyback on the internet.
No, this is my show.
If it's going to come out, thenwe're going to get some views
from my show.
Let's talk about it Now.
Everybody's listening to Power105 because they want to hear
what does Envy have to say.
And I'm going to be honest withyou.
I was like, oh, they're justlooking for Nah, he was visibly

(19:40):
that when you showed me that hewas visibly, when he got up and
said I'm gonna go get I neverheard a real man say this, but
he said I'm gonna go get somesparkling water.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
You did not just say that live, live on air, I'm
gonna go get some sparklingwater oh my god, I'm not even
gonna go there, because onlysomebody like DJ Envy would go
for so I love Envy though I loveEnvy.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I heard he's a complete.
He came out here Like DJ envywould go for for.
So I love them.
Be, though I love them, be mybro.
He's a complete.
He came out here and he did ashow DJ that one of the spots
out here and one of my DJs wasWorking with him, and they said
he literally came in, did hislittle spot act like he, you
know, didn't you know want tospeak to anybody, and that's,

(20:25):
that's secondhand.
But I believe if he'ssomebody's friend, he ain't
going to do them like that.
And I think that really, reallyit just it wasn't even about
the show at that point.
It was about hey, we're cool,and you went on the internet and
did this, and then you walk inhere the next day, what are you
looking for?
At that point then you'd belike but why?

(20:50):
You know what I mean.
So he let her do her grievances.
But yeah, you're right, itburns a bridge.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes, and that's that's the biggest thing is that
it does burn bridge.
And you know, I think they um,now, since we're talking about
it days after, they've beendoing damage control on it like
I don't know if noticed, butthey played, uh, they did, like

(21:17):
a, a spin-off of a brandy song,like I'm out for your job or
some shit like that, trying toplay it off like nothing's
happening.
this is almost kind of like thiswas planned in a way, and now
we got this set up and it's just, it's just damage control and
everything.
And then even, like um, they'vebeen interviewing angela about
it and she's been telling peopleinformation that I guess no one
knew until now that they wereplanning on having multiple,

(21:40):
more than three people anywhereon the show.
So she, kind of lauren, justfell there at later than she
should have been well, what theyshould have done, too, is
planned it a little better.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, they should have you got, and that's why I
said it's on both ends, so it'sdefinitely for the professional
from the professional aspect andfrom the business aspect, from
the company itself, isdefinitely on them.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You're trying to fit people in.
Be a mess because it's shit.
You report just with the mess.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Don't become the mess even like, uh, when you get the
chance, go back and follow her,fall out with wild and out and
stuff like that, like she'salways just you know what I mean
, and it's it's always mess,it's always messy I don't even
know if you heard, if you knowabout about this, but I think
she had a show in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I don't know when it was.
It was a couple months ago,last year, whatever I don't know
the date, but this is all Iknow is that she had a show in
Chicago and she fucking bombedRight.
She bombed so bad that thepeople that were sitting in the
stands were going to the people.
Like you know, when you go to acomedy club, the waiters and

(22:57):
the bartenders, the people thatcome to your table, they serve
you and all that yeah, they wereasking them for their money
back.
They didn't even go to thefront to get their money back.
They were like yo, give me mymoney back.
Right now I'm not sitting forthe bullshit.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't think she's.
First of all, I don't thinkshe's comedian material.
She's not that funny and that'snot hopping on her.
Everybody's hustle is theirhustle, right, and she's at a
better place than I am right now, so I'm not trying to knock her
, and let me just say that I'mnot trying to knock her.
But I used to watch her on thecountry wayne skits right and

(23:37):
country wayne is funny, but Idon't think he's the funniest
comedian right.
He's a good writer.
He's good for these skits.
Yeah right, that's, that's hislane.
But then I saw his comedyspecial and I was like, but?
But then I saw his comedyspecial and I was like, but I'm
hooked on his skits, right.
So who am I to talk?
Every day I wake up and I'mtrying to see, all right, what

(24:00):
happened with Amber and Anthonyand Shayla, and so you know
country, when you got a pop in,but they, they were doing the
skits she's his ex, they fellout.
You know what I mean?
Wilding out that fell out.
And I don't, I don't think youknow.
Just, certain people Are notmeant to do certain things.
Now I'll give you a greatexample.
Matt Rife Is the funniest Offthe head person.

(24:24):
You know, we always want to sayhe's the funniest off the head,
white boy, he's good, he'sfunny.
Off the head, he's funny.
But here's the he's funny.
Oh, no, off the head.
Yeah, probably it's funny, buthere's the problem he's not a
joke Teller.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, he can't.
Yeah, I know what you're trying.
He tells jokes.
He tells jokes when crowd work.
He improvise, he's a crowd, soI can't he can't format For
comedy I watched he needsexperience.
I he can't format.
A whole segment for comedy.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I watched.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But he needs experience.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't think it's experience.
I just think that he'sNaturally funny, right, he could
pick apart anything and that'sthe funniest thing about him.
So he could pick.
And that's why social media wasso great to him.
That's why Wild N Out was sogreat to him, because he's quick
, off the top of the head veryquick, so you know these clips

(25:19):
that they show.
You're just like, oh my god,he's amazingly funny.
I can't wait to go see him.
Then he does a Netflix specialand my girl loves Matt right,
loves him.
Didn't think there was nothinghe could do wrong.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So he did that damn comedy special.
I didn't see it, so I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's on Netflix, check it out.
What's the other guy?
The big fat black guy?
If you see him on Facebook,he's always in the what you call
it.
He's hefty, a little bit lightskin.
Funny as hell, but I feel likehe's going to be the same way he
can go usually the left no, no,no, he's not on the, he's not

(26:05):
on wilding out.
Oh, we just like, if you, if youever scroll on facebook, you'll
see him.
He's a big.
I forget what his name is.
I actually started followinghim because his skits are funny,
but it's not even skits, it'shim at a comedy club.
Oh.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I know who you're talking about.
He looks like a big footballplayer guy.
Yes, yeah, he does the BluePills commercial.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, he picks everybody apart, but I'm
thinking, okay, now will hissetup be like Matt Rife's?
No, because you're funny forthe crowd Doesn't necessarily
mean that your whole show isfunny.
So once you start picking atthe crowd, you don't have that

(26:47):
Kevin Hart material.
Yeah See, the only person who'sgood at that was Martin
Lawrence.
Martin Lawrence was, I couldpick the crowd apart plus give
you a great comedy session.
And there's a couple of peoplelike that.
Dl Hughley is not one of thosepeople you want to heckle.
He'll get you a body Plus.

(27:08):
He's got a funny set and I justthink that these guys are just
you.
You know these social mediaGuys Are funny Off the top, but
don't have that and that's justHilarious.
You know she's funny becauseshe's a little bit quick witted
Not as well as them and she's,you know, like even from her

(27:30):
Skin.
She was always the raunchy onein it, but you know she's Keisha
from the hood.
For me that's it.
She's just Keisha from the hood.
You know you don't wanna playthe Joneses With Keisha.
She's retarded and she'll flip,she'll wild out and punch you
in the face.
That's just hilarious.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, so I just I mean I'm hoping that she doesn't
.
Yeah, so well, I just I justneeded I I mean I'm hoping that
she doesn't ruin Her hersituation with Breakfast Club.
I mean I know you said she'snot gonna get fired but and she
might not because of whathappened, but guess what she did
put one foot forward.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, but to be forward she, yeah, but two feet
forward.
She look as bad as this is.
She actually opened the doorfor them to fix the problem.
So because even they had afteryou sent me that, I said,
alright, let me just dig moreinto it, right, because I didn't
want to have a piece of itbefore we talked about it.

(28:31):
And then I wind up seeing askit where she was trying to
find lauren a man.
Right, yes, I saw that one.
Okay asking all the questionsyeah, but it was to show, all
right, we're working together.
And then people started jokingare you just trying to find it,
lauren?
So you trying to find me, a man, so you can get me off the show

(28:51):
.
So now that little bit oftension.
Yeah, it's working for them.
People want to watch thebreakfast cup now, because
what's going to happen, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But are they going to be good.
But that's my whole argument.
That's my whole entire argumentthat what she's doing now, what
you just mentioned with thewhole dating thing finding
lauren a boyfriend right, thatshould have been done and she
didn't have a man for it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
No.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
She was just like no.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm just trying to see where your head's at.
I know I know I was like thatwas the setup, because you see
all my space.
You're like so all right, sowhere's this guy?
I got to try to get to believein God.
She's like no, I don't have him.
I was just trying to see.
You know what you were lookingfor.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
But that's my argument, right?
That's what I'm trying to sayIs that that should have been
done when she returned and shenoticed that Lauren was kind of
going to stay there.
Like you should have tried tomake it work Instead of go out
and become the mess.
I don't just Report the messdoes and become the mess.
I don't just report the messdoes not become the mess.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I'm sticking to that, but I think she felt like she
was.
She felt like but she felt likeshe was a major part of the
crew and I feel like but thenthe same sense, some of her
grapes.
When you get the chance, um,look up why Angela Yee Left the
Breakfast Club right.
I know Some of the gripes thatJess Hilarious has Is the same

(30:20):
ones that Angela Yee had right,where you feel people are moving
funny.
So I'm not saying she didn'thave the right to feel that way.
My whole point was it didn'ttake social media For you to
have to get that out, becauseyou can go inside the office and
flip out.
Yo, I need to know what's goingon, why this chick still here
on my show.
Is it a show?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I just, I just expect people, especially in those in
those positions making that typeof money, to be classy, because
you don't want to lose that.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't want to lose thatposition.
You don't want to lose that.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't want to lose thatposition.
You don't want to lose thatmoney.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
She has a job because she's not classy.
She has a job because she'sratchet.
And I don't mean fully ratchet,but what I mean is they hired
her because of who she is.
That's why it's called Jesswith the mess.
So you know, whatever it'scalled, it's called that because
of her personality.
It's the same way whyCharlemagne is hired it's

(31:16):
because of you know what he says.
He's a little bit off.
You know now.
And look Now he's more humble.
Remember when Charlemagne firstgot in.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh lord, it was bad, and I think that's because he's
been hanging with andy schultz,sure, I just, I just think it's
no, because he's so big now hedoesn't have to do it, but in
the beginning he had to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I have to make eyes look at me.
How do I make him look at me?
I'll say this.
I'll say and look, some of uslet's be honest with most of us
feel how Charlemagne feels, butwe wouldn't say it.
Charlemagne just had enoughgall to be like yo, this sounds
wild, but I'm gonna say itanyway.
You know what I mean.
And now everybody's like ooh,you know.

(32:03):
And then he's testingboundaries.
That's why Birdman almost putone in him.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know what I mean.
That's why Fredro was reallylike look, I saw that.
You know what I mean.
That's why Fred was really likelook, I'm not that one.
And then why do you want to hitme?
I'm just the host, cause youtalking, foul out your mouth,
you're a host, but we both men,and you can ask me a question
and I get it.
You trying to play me, though,now I have to smack, I'm going
to have to smack fire from youand that's's, that's just

(32:34):
messing with manhood.
So now, at this point, he canmake the little jokes or
whatever, but you know,everybody's like charlemagne
charlemagne.
No one pays attention to himnow, but now he's a brand, he's
a different type of entity.
So you got the breakfast club,you got this other podcast,
you're doing Charlamagne's abrand now, but it took him to be

(32:55):
that, to be this brand.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
And I don't know if you are aware of this, but this
is a rumor.
He hired Lauren to, I think, doher own podcast or maybe be
part of his podcast.
I don't know, but he's hiredher now because of the whole
whole breakfast club team see,and he's gonna help her.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
He's gonna help her make a bigger name for herself.
That's what say I don't reallysee no fire in, because Just
hilarious his name.
First of all, her name is toobig to be at the point where
she's at.
First of all, her name is toobig to be at the point where
she's at On the show.
But it's paper, it's money,she's making dollars.

(33:38):
So I get that this may be aspopular as Jess Hilarious gets,
and that's that.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, and I agree with you that I don't think
she's going to get fired, but Ithink eyes are going to be
closer to look at her now.
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna watchher more careful.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
don't let something like this happen again look, but
you gotta look at who's been,who's been on this, this radio
station, they all have that.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know what I mean, but not like that, not to that
extent.
I don't think I've never seenanything like that, not even,
not even angie martinez that'sbecause ain't nobody mess with
angie.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
No one messes with my baby.
I'm sorry, I'm just saying noone in her baby, not even she's
a god yes in radio like her.
Her amount of respect and radio.
That's why she don't do the BSand that's why she can ask the
questions that she asked.
She grew up with all thesepeople.
You know what I mean.

(34:39):
She grew up like I wouldn't beshocked if Angela I mean
Angelique, yeah If Martinezturned around and said this week
I have an interview with Jay-Z.
No, like nobody can get aninterview with Jay-Z.
Nobody can get an interviewwith Jay-Z.
She used to date him.
She grew in the business withhim.
You know what I mean.
So she can't do what a JessHilarious does.

(35:02):
She can't do what a Charlemagnedoes, because she has that
credibility amongst friends,these people are truly her
friends.
They respect her.
No one can do what she does,I'm sorry.
Amongst friends, these peopleare truly her friends.
They respect her.
No one can do what she does.
I'm sorry.
She's God mode.
I've loved her since shestarted.
I love her now.
I put nobody on that plateauand radio.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You just can't and this is a great segue, because
we're talking about this andlet's start, because this, I
mean this topic is done right.
Jess is a mess, fuck it.
I'm going to clearly say itChill the fuck out, because
you're like you're about tocross that yellow brick road For

(35:47):
real.
That's all I'm saying.
You really do that shit again,do that shit again, do that shit
again, jess, you're gonna bedone.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think it's.
If it has a negative Light on aradio and this didn't have a
negative light, it brought themmore viewers.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
One more, one more.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
We're gonna to watch it because I think somebody's
going to offer her somethingthat may take her away from the
show.
We'll see you want to come hereand do your own thing, but
she's not going to make thattype of money.
She's not good by herself.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Talking about messy situations.
I know you are a huge, huge,huge.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Laker fan.
Huge, huge, huge Laker fan.
Let's see what's there what?
Let's see what's there what.
Kobe's over there, kobe'sjersey's over there.
Don't play, bro, oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I can't see it so.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
And your man, lebron, is there, and I've never seen
LeBron's not my guy, he's aLaker, so I support him.
I support him.
He's a Laker.
You got to support him, bro.
He brought us a championship,so I have to respect him.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So I've never seen anything like this in all my
life, but a basketball playerbeefing with a reporter.
I have I mean, I've never seen.
Who have you seen done that?
Kevin Gardner.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Kevin Gardner been beefing with who Stephen Eddy no
.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
They were friends.
Listen.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Not only were they beefing.
They went on each other'spodcast and did their grievances
Listen.
Let me tell you why I don'thave I I don't have a problem
with these guys.
First of all, these guys arevery sentimental, but what has
changed is the same thing.
We said change for justhilarious social media, because

(37:48):
there were days where theseannouncers talked about these
basketball players and it wasnot a problem, right.
But now you have social media,so they want to clap back.
First of all, I want to giveLeBron kudos before I rip him
down, because his level of petty, no matter what nobody says, as

(38:10):
Stephen A has pointed out,lebron's level of petty is Worth
the money he's making alone.
Understand what.
Forget to be approached evenain't cuz we gonna come back to
that.
He said all right, forget you.

(38:32):
Because we're going to comeback to that the fact that he
said Alright, forget you, right.
Not only am I not going tospeak to you, I'm going to come
on the station when you're thehighest paid Sports Sports
talker and I'm not going to goon your show, I'm going to go on
the show Right after you,second highest, pat McAfee, and

(38:52):
I'm not gonna go on your show.
I'm gonna go on the show rightnow, Second as Pat McAfee but
I'm gonna go on his show, whichis right after your show About
you on your own station.
Tittiness that takes and howmuch clout you gotta be able to

(39:14):
pull that off.
Look, man, you can't have anargument with Stephen A Smith
and say, yo, we want to put ourgrievances on Pat McAfee,
because Stephen A Smith evensaid it.
If he's got a problem with it,he can come on this podcast, he
can come on First.
Take, I ain't giving you noviews, nigga, I'm going for Pat
McAfee's.
This ain't even look, I don'tcare that you black, I'm gonna

(39:37):
go on the White Guy show andmake his More rated than yours
on the day that I was on there.
That level of pettiness Isclassic and you have to love the
guy for it.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Wait, wait, wait.
We playing spades right now andI'm about to drop the king, the
king, the king of of wild cardon you.
I'm going to drop the big wildcard on you right now that mofo
LeBron put out that boxing videoof Stephen A Smith.
Did you get to see that, withStephen A trading out a box?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But the reason why he said it was because Stephen A
said if he put hands on me, Iwould have put hands on him back
.
Dude, let's be honest.
Let's be honest.
I've seen.
Alright, we say we wouldn't,but I'm going to take you back
to I say he wouldn't.

(40:27):
Okay, let's put it this way, I'mgoing to take you back to a
time right?
Do you remember when we werekids and we was walking down?
Okay, let's put it this way,I'm going to take you back to a
time Right?
Do you remember when we werekids and we was walking down the
block and that dude called methe N-word and I was by myself,
but I wanted to fight him for it.
Okay, and me, you.
Well, I ain't going to call anybut me, you, a couple other

(40:49):
people walked all up and downBroadway, right, couldn't find a
Broadway, right.
No, couldn't find a guy, right,because now I got a crew, cuz,
remember he had a crew, so Iwasn't gonna fight him with the
crew.
And then we come back, we bumpinto the guy right, remember how
, oh, I'm rowdy, I'm round,ready.
And then One of our boys saidyeah, they said shoot the fair

(41:10):
one, right?
So we're there and we're on233rd and Broadway, right from
that cop's bar, right, and thedude stepped up to me and I
didn't realize that I was thistall and he was this tall.
And he looked down at me andsaid so, you want to fight Now?

(41:32):
At that moment, at that verymoment there was a little bit of
me that said, oh shit, right,because we had had enough time
to walk my anger off by lookingfor him.
But who threw the first punch?
Me, right, because you're'regonna have to protect yourself.

(41:58):
And we fought all up the hill,remember that truck came down
and y'all had to separate us.
And then he came over and saidyou know, I apologize, you know,
and you know I was out of place.
I went to shake my hand andthen, when I put my hand out
like yeah, don't worry about it,it's no thing, you know, cause
we fought all the time.
And then he mushed me over thegarbage can and when he mushed

(42:20):
me on the garbage can, I fell,picked the garbage can up and he
caught it.
So I pulled it down, so he fall, kicked him in the temple and
he was out on two, 30, just laidout the, and he was out on 233,
just laid out.
The cops had to come, wake himup and y'all told me run, right.
So I feel like if LeBron had tohit Stephen A Smith, first of

(42:42):
all, stephen A Smith knewsomebody was going to break it
up Two I think Stephen A Smithwould have hit him, he would
have lost now, but you got toget that one punch in.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Like it's just you got get that one punch in.
You gotta get that punch in.
Listen, you're thinking Iunderstand what you're doing.
You're thinking as a regularperson, right?
Mm-hmm, how a regular personwill most likely react,
regardless if it's an athletesize, whatever.
I'm gonna try to get somethingback, yeah, but this is where
I'm saying no.
I'm saying no, I'm saying nobecause Stephen A is not a

(43:15):
regular guy.
He believes he is the company,he is the face of the company.
He can't do nothing because herepresents ESPN.
So he won't lift a hand up onLeBron because he doesn't want
to make ESPN look bad.
That is the only thing he cares.

(43:37):
He sent a tweet out saying Iwake up every morning thinking
how I'm going to make ESPN moremoney and how I can get a piece
of that more money.
That's it.
He doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
So if the boss here's where I trumped that, though
that's why lebron did what hedid, because I was never going
to hit that boy.
But I'm saying lebron tried tomake it look like, but lebron
tried to make it look like apunk move, but LeBron, for the
same reasons you just said thatStephen A wouldn't hit him back

(44:16):
is the same reasons why I saidLeBron shouldn't approach him,
because LeBron wasn't going totouch him.
Lebron has.
Look, he's got the Lakers he'sgot to think about.
He's got his brand.
Look, lebron's money is 10times Stephen A Smith's money.
I don't know Stephen Money isten times Stephen a Smith's
money.
Smith is looking at all.
I got ten million dollars.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
The law is even a new contract is not no time.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
No, it's a hundred million for something I forget
they were, if they wasn't overexaggerating, but they were
talking about it on first takes.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I think they was over exaggerating, oh but I'm I'm
again going to disagree with you, because the fact that, yes,
you all that stuff, but I'magain going to disagree with you
because of the simple fact that, yes, you all that stuff that
you're saying about Bob iscorrect, but I'm going to look
at how he doesn't lose anythingIf he smacks the shit out of him
, and we can't.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yes, he does, cause you think, you think Nike's
don't stay with him.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Nope, he won't, oh no they're not staying with him.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I mean, look at.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Because he's rejuvenizing his career right
now.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
He had to Jesus.
Stephen A Smith has agreed to anew Bro.
I told you this boy is makingmore than basketball players.
His contract.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
He's making fucking tax my home's money.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
He's 5 year 100 million dollars With USPN, which
will keep him as the face offirst tech Boom.
Five year $100 million withESPN, which will keep him as the
face of first tech.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
He's not making incredible money?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
So I think they're both making incredible money?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
LeBron doesn't really .
First of all, the reason whyLeBron came to him is completely
different.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
He's not thinking as that, and plus Everything LeBron
does, and I'm gonna tell youthis I don't care how much of a
Laker he is, his skills areunmatched as a basketball player
.
He's coming with every.
Everything he does iscalculating.
So Now I think I'd, like I said, I think what happened was when

(46:24):
Stephen A said he looked overat Bronny, seen Bronny's face,
and he figured alright, I can goover and say whatever I want to
to Stephen A.
I don't think it was aboutpunking him, as Stephen A took
it.
No, I think he was just angryand he's like look, I finally
got you here face to face.
Let me tell you a little punkass something Shut up about my

(46:45):
son, but he wasn't going totouch him on the court.
He wasn't going to.
I mean, think about it If youtouch Stephen A now, he's going
to sue you for the money you got.
The Lakers are going to have tolet you go because they're not
going to keep you, because younow hurt their brand.
It looks bad for Nike, so heain't going to touch them.
He got enough money to where hecould just say I let one of my

(47:07):
dudes smack the hell out of you.
It's only taking one good smackto shut you up.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
He was never going to touch Steven, he just wanted
the words.
And it looked good, it lookedgood, it did it did look good,
it did it did look good, itlooked great, it looked great.
You know what looked good WasStephen, a Smith's boxing
tutorial.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Throw you, not Hold on, wait, wait.
This is how you throw a jab.
How you say, how you say hedidn't do that, he didn't do
that.
This is how you throw a jab.
How you say, how you say who,who, he didn't even do that he
didn't even do that.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
I don't know what the hell he was doing.
He was punching kneecaps.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
You know what I remember when they first showed
that.
They showed it on first take,when he started working out and
everybody was just like, but youknow, look, no one wants to
feel like they were punk.
Right, steven, he knows that hecan't, but I'm talking about
you.
If I see LeBron, I'm gonna beatthe hell out of Noah.

(48:11):
I see LeBron and he mad at me,I'm just gonna shoot him.
But sometimes he's 69 and, withGod power, yeah, and he's 40
and he still looks better thanme than I did at 20.
So no, I'm not fighting thepunk.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
But you have to agree .
Sometimes you just have toadmit that you are a punk.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Well, no, not that you're a punk, it just ain't
worth getting your ass kicked.
There are two different thingsto being a punk.
A punk being, you ain't gonnafight everybody.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Right Yo.
I know some people who arestraight punks and they're cool
with it.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
They're like yo I'm a lover, but they know that.
But they know that.
But they know, just because youcan see, this ain't going in.
Well, don't make you.
You ever see somebody gooutside.
It's two or three dudes andthey like yo, I'll take you all
on, yeah, and you know.
And then you're like, oh, theyjumped me'll take you all on,
yeah, thank you no.

(49:05):
And then you like all they jumpme, they all bigoted in you,
but you want to seem cool likethat.
There comes a point where youcould be a poker.
You could Be smart.
Yeah, a punk means you ain't.
You know you'll start stuff,won't finish it, all this other
stuff.
Smart just means okay, this guyis 300 pounds, he's been at

(49:30):
this bar.
We've been in situations likethat.
We've been in bars where welike you know, because we're
always the type we scope thesituation and normally the one
with the big mouth is not theone you got to worry about.
And how many times we come onman, think about the times we
went to um, what was that clubso?
Well, we used to try to getthere at 10 o'clock so we can

(49:55):
get in and not have to pay,cause we was all broke Now
before we became the cool dudesin that place because Omar knew
how to dance.
I knew how to dance.
He was always just kicking itright and Lamont was the size of
a small house so nobody everwanted to mess with him.
A baby gorilla, jesus Christ.
When he grabbed you, that's yo,he punked me.

(50:17):
He punked me because he used tograb me and I couldn't Get
loose.
You know, I was smaller than hegrabbed me and hugged me and
not let me go, and I couldn'tget Loose and I just thought I'm
glad this is not Jail, becauseI'd be his new girlfriend, like
he was a beast.
But um, you know, but when wewent to, when we go to these
clubs, we would look and be like, alright, you see him staring

(50:39):
at us.
Yeah, I be careful, cause he'swith that, that and that Cause
usually those are the ones thatwant to start the junk is the
one that know they got thebackup and I never that dude to
sit there by himself, it'salways a dude that came in there
with the posse and we, like Ijust know, if he come over here,
we take him out and then we goover to.

(51:00):
You know, we, you always paylike that.
That's being smart.
That's not being a punk.
Being a punk is smacking a girland then her boyfriend come up
and now you don't want to smackhim.
That's a punk.
Yes, that's that's a problem,but.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
But, but, stephen, it was.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He wasn't a punk, he just he didn't expect it.
But Stephen A was, he wasn't apunk, he just didn't expect it.
He talks, and this is what hedoes for a living, and he says
look, and I have to agree withhim, I'm talking about you.
I am talking about you and thesport.
If you have a discrepancy, talkback to me.
Right, him and KD did that.
They still don't agree, yeah,but they did that right but

(51:42):
stephen a was.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I was watching a couple of this um episodes with
um stephen a talking aboutbrawny himself and he was.
He was kind of crossing theline.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
He wasn't being he was being, because look, here's,
here's the problem.
And I said this brawny is notan nba player.
I don't care right now.
Right, you didn't let this kiddevelop it, but there's, there's
two sides to this.
I understand.

(52:12):
My son almost died, right?
Not my son lebron son, excuseme.
So people, my son LeBron's sonExcuse me, so people my son is
fine, but LeBron's son, yeah, healmost died, so he can't get
mad for somebody noticingeverything that he did that we
know was wrong, right?

(52:32):
Oh, if you want me, I want toplay with my son.
So that's what I mean by it'scalculated.
You throw it out there.
You make it seem like all rightif you get my son.
So you, that's what I mean bycalculated you throw it out
there.
You make it seem like all right.
If you get my son, you get me.
So nobody's ready to draftBronny, and if they did, he
would have been on the backburner, right?
Or we'll take him, We'll sendhim down to the G league.

(52:53):
He's not ready for NBA, no, he'snot but LeBron wants to play
with his son because this ismore and, like I said, I
understand it.
But when people tell you, hey,this kid is not ready, and now
stephen a smith starts talkingabout it first, when he first
said, he says I'm not mad at himfor showing nepotism, because

(53:14):
you know, as his point, asstephen a said, white people
been doing this for a long timewith the business stuff.
This is just the first sportsguy to be able to do it, so I'm
happy he could do it.
But once he got drafted to theLakers, it was like let him go
down to the G League and develop, but LeBron's game and this is
what he's saying this wasn'tabout Bronny, this is about
LeBron.

(53:34):
Because LeBron wanted to playwith his son.
That was the goal.
All right, you play with him.
Now let that boy go develop,because LeBron is not a bad
player by any means.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
He's just not.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
NBA ready.
He needs experience.
He needs more than experience.
You know everybody's like well,he got 37 in the G League.
That's the G League.
My grandmother can get 37 inthe fucking G League.
I don't know everybody's like.
Well, he got 37 in the G League.
That's the G League mygrandmother can get 37 in the
fucking G League.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I don't know she's dead Bro, but yo, Stephen A also
said that Bronny was garbage.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
He is.
He said it just like thatGarbage he is, but has he not
said that about any other player, though?
Like this is not a place where,look, this morning he just
called the Phoenix Suns, thewhole Phoenix Suns, a
catastrophe, something that'sjust disgusting to watch, right?

(54:36):
That's what he gets paid for,literally on a I don't want to
say a Charlemagne tip, but he'spaid to be loud.
That's how skip bail is thought.
It's like what's his name heard.
All these guys are paid becausethey don't have to interact.
Even a actually Coward does not.

(54:56):
He't cross the line.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Huh, herb doesn't cross the line, coward Coward
does not.
He stays on the line.
He stays on the line.
He knows this is the way he'sabout to say something he's like
oh, wait up, let me keep ithere.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Here's my thing.
They're paying Stephen A.
Yes, they are For his opinion.
Yeah, but damn, look, le,they're paying Stephen A For his
opinion.
And look, lebron can get onthere and have his opinion and
nobody's knocking him.
You understand what I'm saying.
So you can't knock somebody forhe says you know, but I'm
coming to you as a father.
Well, you don't think that KD'sfather don't like what he has
to say?
Look, he went off on JohnMorant On a rant that.

(55:39):
Put it this way, he's nodifferent than what we're doing
now.
Think about what we just saidabout Jess Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
We didn't, but we didn't go ham on her.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
We said she was non-talented.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I just said her comedy is not my flavor.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I said she was non-talented.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
But that's still not that bad bro.
Like that's not not that badbro.
That's not like she's garbagewhen you cut to the end this is
what people want to do.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Look, you don't have to say she's garbage.
Ronnie will bust my ass in agame of basketball, so I would
be garbage too, but do I want tosee him out Now?
Mind you, I'm about tocontradict myself in a very,
very hard way.
So me and my boy went to theLakers-Nick game.

(56:28):
My boy Killer surprised me withtickets.
Knows I'm a Lakers fan, he's aKnicks fan.
So you know I've been the manof Madison Square Garden many
times.
As a matter of fact, we wentfor.
I was just talking about it.
Garden many times, matter offact, we went for.
I was just talking about it.
Remember when we went for thefirst Elimination Chamber?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yes, yes, I did not like that.
I still got the pictures.
I did not like that.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I forgot that I had those contacts with the white
contacts and I was freakingpeople out because nobody was
doing that yet.
But, um, we went to MadisonSquare Garden and LeBron comes
out.
I'm all excited.
Now, mind you, I can talk whatI want to, but watching LeBron
play is amazing.

(57:09):
You know what I mean, and thatwas my thing.
I get to say, you know, there'sgoing to be people that turn
around and say I got to seeJordan play live, right.
I'm going to be one of thosethat got to say I got to see
LeBron play live, right.
I'm going to be one of thosethat got to say I got to see
LeBron play live, which I wish.
I got to see Kobe play live,but I got to see LeBron play
live.
But if you go on my page andlook, I got video of Bronny,

(57:32):
because I was like oh, there'sBronny, there's Bronny.
He ain't hit no shots, but hewas still there though.
But this is what I mean, likewhen you're, when you're looking
at people getting paid millionsof dollars to do a craft and
your son got in because ofnepotism not that people don't
do this all the time, don't getme wrong.

(57:53):
So I'm not mad at him for it,it's just that you know.
Now we're like all right, yougot your wish, you got him on
the team.
Your team selected him becausehe's your son and they wanted to
keep you.
You played with him.
Now let that boy go down to theG League and develop.
But no, you keep him up heretalking about who's a better

(58:14):
coach than me.
Basically, it's how he'sthinking I'm his dad, but he
ain't developing right and he'sgarbage.
So every time he goes out thereit just looks like, well,
there's daddy's boy.
That's not a good look for himand that's what he was saying.
You want to do something goodfor this kid.
Let this kid go be his own mannow, right now.
You know he's freaking.

(58:35):
He's Dustin Rhodes in NWA.
When Dusty was there, youunderstand what I'm saying.
We're not letting him develop.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Let that boy go develop.
I understand, but I just think,I mean I'm just saying that
Stephen A could have just saidthat emphasis differently.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
This is who he is.
This is why he's making $100million.
But let me tell you something?
Somebody is why he's making$100 million.
But let me tell you something.
Somebody's going to pay me $100million.
I'm going to call you garbageif you garbage.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
You, my boy, and because who you is is the reason
why LeBron spoke to you and youwas about five seconds away
from getting the five fingers ondeath.
He wasn't getting that.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
No, I know he was.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Here's the thing where, where Stephen a is
different than everybody else is.
You know, when these people cuznobody's walking up to Perkins
saying that no one walking up toPerkins not See.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Here's the thing.
None of the other guys otherthan skip Bayless right are as
disrespectful as Austin, even abro yo Steve.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
It aren't the arenas is Gilbert arenas.
Kenyan Martin Kendrick PerkinsDidn't do.
Say what's on a mind andthey'll tell you you're trash.
And they say Bronnie's trash,they're not they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
They're not, they're not.
I don't know what it's the way.
They say it differently thanStephen A and they say it less
than Stephen A Like Stephen Alike, for example, after that
pot, after that show with LeBronand Fat Mac the next day,
stephen A had to respond rightIn my house sat down with my

(01:00:30):
wife and talk shit about me.
You watch the Pat McAfee showthing right?
Yes, I saw too.
He really.
He really speak much about he,he, he.
I was asked a question aboutStephen and he addressed it and
kept it moving with everythingelse.

(01:00:50):
He had a small little segmentwhere he spoke about Stephen.
A he didn't speak about him forour show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
But you know what he also got the voices opinion.
Let's take Steven.
I didn't like what he did withBrian Windhorse, because Brian
Windhorse and I love BrianWindhorse love Brian Windhorse
the white guy, right, the chubbywhite guy yes, yeah, he was.
Basically he called BrianWindhorse a weirdo.
Brian Windhorse never said thatthey were friends.

(01:01:18):
Yeah, never.
He said I've known, known LeBronJames for 25 years and who's in
LeBron's circle or who hetreats the way he treats Is how
he treats him.
That's an observation.
And then LeBron gets on, patMcAfee, and he was like, yeah, I
was listening to BrianWentworth and he's saying we're
friends and I don't even knowhim like that.

(01:01:39):
It's freaking weird.
That's not what he said.
You understand what I'm saying.
So you didn't do no more thanwhat everybody else does.
You stated your opinion, but Iwatched a clip with Wendy and
Wendy was just saying no, Ifollow LeBron.
So you know, as somebody whohas interviews with people
several times, you feel like youknow something about him, right

(01:02:01):
.
But he never said we werefriends or we was buddies.
But you made him sound like hewas some type of psychotic, and
you know what I mean, becauseyou don't like the way the media
is able to talk about you now.
It's part of the business.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I think I think on the brawn is is gonna start
trying to dictate who he wantsto be broadcasted and that's
what, and that's the power thathe made by going to the pat
mcafee thing but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
It's not even a power move, because all you did was
they're gonna listen to you, butespn is bigger than you as a
lebron james right, because it'snot like you've been.
You don't come.
If you were like somebody whocame on their shows that gave
them views, but LeBron don't doshows like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
No, he doesn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
So it doesn't hurt.
That's why we all knew it wasplanned.
It was petty.
I loved it, though, becauseit's like you know what, I'm
tired of you talking shit.
Let me do something to kind ofhurt you back, and that's that's
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
But going back to what I was trying to say before,
I almost forgot was the day thenext day when Stephen a
Responded to the Pat McAfee show.
Right, he literally took a15-minute segment.
He even he went, he and he gotpersonal on it, like he was
explaining why the bond didn'tgo to Dwayne Wade ceremony, why

(01:03:25):
he didn't go to the Kobe Bryantfuneral, even though he misspoke
about that, you know, saying heKeef, I don't see, lied, but he
just gave the wrong information.
No, no, there was somethingthat came out, there was a
reason.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That was during the time when Bronny had that they
said he was out of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
But that's what he was saying.
He was like you couldn't makeit to that, but you were out the
country, that's you know.
All Stephen A was doing wastrying to be as petty as LeBron,
because this was the one timeLeBron got him.
He won't help them and I'mgoing to be honest, he was
pissed and he okay.
Well, you got that one time,that one platform, so I'm going

(01:04:13):
to come at you, but all LeBrongot to do is just do the
shopping, rip him again.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Well, I think, from this point on, I think LeBron's
going to be called King Petty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Oh yeah, oh no, lebron's been petty, he's going
to be King Petty, he's KingPetty.
But this here, like I said,when you go in somebody's house
and sit down and talk with theirchildren and then leave the
house, and they got to come inthe house and back to themselves

(01:04:44):
, look bro, when I seen that, Isaid who that's.
Cause you think I ain't evengoing to give no love to the
station.
I'm going to go over to FS2.
But he know that's not popping.
He know ain't nobody over therepopping no more since they let
them, since they let them, guysgo over there, they ain't
popping.
Ever since Shannon Sharp leftthem, guys ain't popping no more

(01:05:08):
.
So I'm not.
But you know what?
Hey, pat McAfee, we're playingIndiana.
You're going to be in Indiana.
I'm going to come on your showTo be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
We know, like you said earlier, the bond is
calculated and I think I thinkhe calculated this because I
think he went to Pat McAfee show, because Pat McAfee is the
second best there and hisratings are Going to top over
Stephen days.
First, take eventually one day.
Right, and it was in Stephena's hometown.

(01:05:39):
Right, and Stephen a A's ownshow.
Right, like you said, his own.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, yeah, his own show, Not his hometown, but his
home though.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah, yeah, and he wanted to do that purposely, to
let him know listen, I'm nottaking off my shoes in your
house.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Mm-hmm, Basically what he did was Because he could
have done the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
FS1.
And you know what he?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
did?
He said fuck your couch, yeah,exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
What about cocaine?
What about cocaine?
What about cocaine?
Fuck your couch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, but it was definitely classic.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
He could have gone to FS1 and probably produced a lot
of numbers for them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Just to fuck with ESPN.
He wasn't mad at ESPN, he wasmad at Stephen A.
So if I come on your networkand give somebody better ratings
than your show that you claimis top, but when I get on it,
their show is top, screw you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
So yeah, I look much better, and him doing that also
will help Pat McAfee bump outStephen A, and that's.
I think that's one of hiscalculated moves.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
No, I don't think Pat McAfee is going to bump out.
I'm not saying that's going tohappen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Everybody likes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Pat McAfee.
Look, pat McAfee has his ownproblem.
Don't need LeBron for that,because, look, pat McAfee gets
people on his shows to shock me.
You know one he's alreadyworking with WWE.
Yes, every time somethinghappens with them, they're on
his show.
He's got that friendship withAaron Rodgers where he's always
on his show, but now they'retrying to do, you know, is he

(01:07:14):
going to retire?
Not so he's staying off, butonce he makes his decision
Wednesday.
Now Aaron Rodgers is like PatMcAfee is just one of those guys
, so he doesn't need LeBron tobe able to top first team.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
I'm not saying he needed LeBron.
I'm saying LeBron is choosinghim to be the man instead of
Steven.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
It's not even choosing.
I think he was using him forhis own purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That's basically the same.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, yeah, but um, it's just.
It's just ridiculous that it'sgotta.
It's just ridiculous howStephen is reacting towards it.
You know, saying like you'vebeen doing this shit for decades
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Take one, take one to 14 I wasn't taking if I was
steven a.
You give me matter.
How long have you known me?
You really think I'm gonna takeit now if I know that I can top
you?
That's why I love the.
That's why I love the lebronpettiness because you know I'm
petty, bro, I'm petty,understand.

(01:08:21):
I'm not letting you get oneover on me for nothing if I
could help it.
So LeBron got one over on him.
Now Stephen A's trying to getone over back wasn't as good,
but it was something.
You know what I mean.
Sometimes you just can't laydown for something like that.
Like you came into my house,you hung out with my kids, you

(01:08:42):
slept with my wife, you wipedyour muddy shoes on my carpet
and then you left my house andeverybody saw you on my ring cam
.
I gotta come back withsomething.
I gotta say something.
I gotta come back.
My wife said your stuff wastrash.
My kids say your underarmsstink.
Like I got to come back.
My wife said your stuff wastrash.
My kids say your underarmsstink.
I got to say something to getback from you being in my house.

(01:09:04):
So you know it wasn't like itwas a win and it's never going
to be a win, because Stephen Ais always going to have a mic.
Now, every time LeBron doessomething.
But I will say this, thoughLeBron does something, but I
will say this though and it hadto be hard, because they then

(01:09:25):
lost that game to after thatnight.
They lost that game to theChicago Bulls and I really
thought.
I really thought Stephen A wasgoing to be petty, because my
whole thing was maybe if youwere to focus more on basketball
instead of being up here doinginterviews trying to tear me

(01:09:46):
down, maybe a team would bewinning.
Right, he didn't do that.
He literally said his piece andthen he let it go and,
literally, big LeBron Jamesright back up.
Because of what you said, he'sgot a $100 million contract.
We'll let you say your pieceand then get, because of what
you said, he's got a hundredmillion dollar contract.
We'll let you say your pieceand then get back to what you do
.

(01:10:06):
If it's, if he's being horrible,say it.
If not.
And he, he picked him up thewhole time.
You know what I mean.
So you got to get your lickback.
It just wasn't as hard of alick, as you know.
He ran up behind him and itjust wasn't as hard of a lick,
as LeBron showed it wasn't.
You know.
He ran up behind him and, like,hit him on the back and ran.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
You remember back then, when we were in school and
motherfuckers Grabbed your neckand be like give me that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
LeBron took it.
All Matter of fact, I think thenext day Stephen A's hairline
went back about another twoinches I was like what the?
at this point I'm looking at thetop of the tv like where's his
hair going it was running fromhis thoughts because he was

(01:10:59):
thinking about that all nightand they was just like Nah, bro,
we can't deal with this, nomore, no more.
We congregating right here.
I don't see why he won't letthe hair go, bro, I get it, but
Maybe he's got a very bald.
Hey man, lebron.
Lebron got it cut so low andlook bald.
Just make it bald, because whenyou don't, you still see that

(01:11:24):
they want beautiful hair likethis look and everybody's like,
oh, but you bald.
I said, bro, I got a full headof hair.
I've been cutting my hair forthe longest, so at work I
actually had to let my hair growso they could see my hairline
yeah you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Even when you had hair and you was doing braids,
you cut it off and go bald.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah, because I just I hate dealing with the hair.
Yeah, but Steve and A shouldjust say you know what?
Because LeBron got a golf patchon his head.
You know that part where youknock your ball into the sand
and you got to knock it out backonto the grass.
Yeah, yeah, that's like hisspot and you keep missing, you
just yeah, and it's gonna bebasically Got the driveway

(01:12:08):
because this thing come up likethis.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
No, you know, you know, you know, like the Indy
500, right when they, whenthey're going, did they do the
laps and everything and they getthat that spin out when they
just hit the edge and they keepgoing to the wall.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Steven's hairline.
Yeah, that's the driveway.
That's what I said.
It's the driveway.
The only difference is there'sgrass here, there's grass back
here.
But this you know, the drivewayup to the garage and then the
grass back to the garage.
The door keeps going back, andthen what makes it even funnier,
though, is he always got tohave the straight hairline,
which you know pushes it backmore, because his hair probably

(01:12:45):
doesn't use right, but becausehe wants it to be straight, he
got to cut it back further tostraighten it up.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I don't get it either .
Let's end this, my brother.
Give a shout out to your radiostation website where people can
get in touch with you.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
A lot of people from last time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, yeah, and I will be twitching.
I'm not going to.
You know we'll do this again,because you know we probably do
this once a month.
But my laptop went down becauseI gave you all the Twitch
information and that's why I wasupset about the switcher,
because, because you know allthis cool things I can do.
And right before the show itwas like, yeah, the mic ain't
going to work, Like next, nexttime next time we got to do

(01:13:49):
something cool yeah.

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