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August 8, 2025 50 mins

What if science could demonstrate that authentic connection between parent and child creates literal brain synchronization? In this fascinating conversation, Dr. Kate Renshaw welcomes Dr. Ezgi Kayhan Wagner founder of Mumbi, neuroscientist and clinical psychologist to explore the remarkable intersection of brain science and playful parenting.

Dr. Ezgi reveals groundbreaking insights about what happens in our brains when we sit down to play with our children, why stressed parents struggle to find creative solutions, and how the simplest, most "boring" play might actually be exactly what overwhelmed families need.

From the concept of the brain as a "prediction machine" to the power of tiny surprises in everyday play, this episode transforms how we think about those precious moments of connection with our children, and reminds us that taking care of ourselves is actually one of the most important things we can do for our kids.

Key Topics Covered

Brain Science & Connection 

  • Brain synchronization during parent-child play
  • How modern neuroscience can measure authentic connection
  • The role of technology in understanding human relationships

Translating Science to Practice

  • The challenge of bridging research and real-life application
  • How COVID changed science communication
  • Integrating play seamlessly into daily life vs. treating it as another task

The Mumbi Parenting Buddy

  • Voice-based AI parenting companion concept
  • Personalized, real-time support for parents
  • Augmenting (not replacing) human connection and therapy
  • Early user feedback and development progress

Stress and the Parent Brain 

  • The "Goldilocks zone" of optimal stress for functioning
  • How high stress blocks creativity and problem-solving
  • Why parents literally "can't see" solutions when overwhelmed
  • Impact on play capacity and vision

The Power of "Good Enough" Play

  • Repetitive, familiar play as "autopilot" connection
  • Brain's preference for tried-and-tested pathways under stress
  • Practical examples across different ages (babies to teenagers)

The Brain as Prediction Machine 

  • How our brains actively predict outcomes
  • "Prediction errors" and novelty effects in play
  • The car detour example: small tweaks, big impact
  • Why tiny surprises enhance learning and engagement

Emotional Splashback & Joy 

  • How playful responses refuel 

Connect with Dr Ezgi Kayhan Wagner's work:

  • https://www.mumbi.app/
  • https://www.linkedin.com/in/ezgikw/?originalSubdomain=de
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