October 3, 2025 • 43 mins
Thanks for listening! Amy and Emily have a high priority chat about Julia's confession in reunion 1 of Miami. We dissect reactions, speculations, and unseen reunion footage drama. Next, we hop over to Orange County to discuss Heather and Gina's icy comedy clash, Jen's tattoo incident with son Dawson, and Tamara's back-and-forth quitting antics. Plus, Tamara's sensitive journey dealing with her friend's illness, therapy insights, and the intoxicating rivalry with Gretchen. Join us for laughs, gasps, and plenty of drama!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
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there and it's perfect, all right, you guys. Emily is
here and hello. We before we get into Orange County,
we have to just dip our toes in Miami for
a second because just the second, I mean, I cannot
believe the bomb that was dropped. Spoiler okay, spoiler alert.
(01:23):
If you haven't watched Miami, you don't want to know.
Everybody knows everywhere confessed that in the Hamptons, she and
Adriana slept together, they had an affair, and this in
fact was of course during the time in which she
was and still is married to Martina.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I'm sure I have a feeling Martina knows.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't think that she would have admitted this that
the reunion if Martina wasn't like, oh, go ahead, I'm
gonna I got the kids and you failed. Yeah, I'm
gonna go hit some balls at a canvas. I'm not
doing it. I'm not doing it justice. I don't work
on that. I'm just so floored by this information. The
person who I don't think knew was Adriana that that
(02:06):
was coming.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't think so either. But then I see a
preview for the reunion, the second episode of the reunion,
and they showed unseen footage of age of Adriana making
threats to say something like you don't want me to
say that, you do not want me to Uh, what's
going to happen?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh my, oh my good? So I so yeah, So
now that's exposed. So it wasn't off the table that
she was going to bring it to the reunion, that's
for sure. In terms of Adriana thinking that.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think it was a shock, but it looks like
that's been dangled as a threat to Julia. And I
think Julia, because when I first saw it, I was like,
did she just out her? Like I was like, this
might not this is not good. But then I was like, oh,
it's been a threat to Julia this whole season, and
(03:03):
maybe she's just like, you know what, uh, you can't
keep threatening me right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, now we understand what she was referring to when
she was saying the mental abuse or like the yelling
and all this stuff, and we didn't understand that. And
I'm thinking, you know, I threw some theories out last
week and those will stay over on the Patreon. But
I guess I'm surprised that she and Martina are still
together and Martina just put up with it. I mean
(03:31):
she was okay with that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't know if I don't know who knows, like
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Obviously was I don't know whether they're feeling Martina.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I have a feeling Martinez.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Cool about that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean they don't sound like they're in an
open relationship, but I feel like there might be some
tally marks on Martina's board as well. Whoa, that's my
that's my hunch. Wow, Martina, like Martina h is a prize,
like the prize, Like I can see her.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Babes babesy wanting to get you know, behind that net.
You know what I'm saying. They want to love love
you know what I'm saying. They want to doubles up.
That's like, you know what I'm saying. I know so
many more tennis references can I do? Let's see here
the string that racket.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh yeah, thank you, I was worried there there's more.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Keep going. I'll interrupt you when it's time.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They want to smooth that clay. They want to, Yeah,
they want to re line the court.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I think that I don't need a Okay, then
they want to, uh, they want to.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They went a volley. They want to They want to
scissor that net as a reward when they win. What
is that? Is that? Something? Sure?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Is that net when they win? That's absolutely the same.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The coaches always say, like the first thing you need
to do when you win a scissor the net. It's
kind of like when you make a touchdown and you do
the touchdown dance when when female, when females win at tennis,
they scissor than net.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's what I thought. I know, and I know that,
and I'm glad that everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Now, Yeah, okay, Well, getting back to the real discussion,
is that people looking for some Martines, you know, and
they're going to get if she's ready to go. That's
my hunch, okay, allegedly, because like we don't know anything
about that, and I.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Don't think that right now they are in that same place.
I think they're in a better place because they have
the they've adopted the kids. They seem very yeah, but
you know, who knows.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know. I remember that trip because that was when
Adriana was really heavy with flirting with Julia. She was
in that bathtub, like taking her top off in front
of everybody claiming that room, and she was so extra flirty.
They were so flirty from the beginning of this like
new revamp. That it does, I guess it doesn't surprise me,
(06:27):
but like at the same time, I mean, I am
a little shocked that she would cheat on Martina.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well I am, and I'm not. I mean, because like
we got a whiff of that with the possible her
trying to hook up with Sandy.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Clearly, now that can be a solid assumption and alleged
accusation that that was her modus OPERENDI because yeah, but
then we didn't know that she had already cheated, so
I wasn't willing to fully go there. But now one hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Percent yeah, And and I would say.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Andrew Room, I'm just going to keep cutting you off.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I you know, when when someone says we were in
a bad place, that is so vague to me that
maybe they did like kind of split up for a second,
Like I don't know, like maybe like.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Someone says we were in a bad place, it means
someone cheated and then the other one found out that's
what put them in the bad place eating indeed. But anyway,
well this was Wow. What do you guys think? I
posted something on the Patreon and it actually it is
on the public Patreon just like we got to talk
(07:39):
about it, So drop your comments. Patrion dot com slash
drama Darling, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Speaking disgusting, d disgusting, you got an isolated disgusting this week,
Speaking disgusting.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's it's hard to pick it. Up. Do you hear
that like eighties action movie music in the back that
so weird? I loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Disgusting.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's like, oh, it's like Tarmra's running man music. She's
running from scene to scene to you know, get out
of this show. We had a couple we had welcome in,
you know, we had a double welcome in off the
top with Shannon and Heather going into the Japanese art place.
Just welcome us, welcome in two different people. Well, Tamar
(08:23):
and Eddie back out in the patio. No watermelon this time,
Emily glad. Aren't you glad about that?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I was relieved? Okay, clearly got my notes.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
They no watermelon. So Tara is obviously she says to
Eddie that she's very hurt about Heather Nuts sticking up
for her when Gretchen told everybody about like this ninety
eight degrees guy, and so she's passed at Heather and
and then we get the information that this is so weird,
(08:51):
like that Jennifer ba DROWNTI followed Jeff from ninety eight degrees.
I'll just say Jeff okay Uh allegedly allegedly followed him
on Instagram and in her confessional. Yeah, of course she
did it to see if he would notice so that
she could get some tea. And so she's like, she
(09:12):
followed him. I'm so passed about that, Like why would
she follow him? I mean, it's it's so interesting to
me that information got back to Tamra that quickly, that
the wife. So that's amazing, really proud of everyone in
that in that circle to just funnel that information like
headline news. I mean, that was great coming down the wire,
(09:33):
coming down the Housewives ap wire.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Especially because this wasn't airing. Then I would see yes,
you know what I mean, like that the wife clocked
an OC wife and then told Tamra.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But I think that I don't know, this is what
I want to know. I think that Tamra reached out
to the wife and was like, heads up, this is
what's happening right now, and I just want you to
know nothing happened, and I don't wait to feel weird
about it whatever, and so this will be probably she
probably gave you know, a girl to girl and the.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wife is like, oh, that's funny because shen exactly okay,
got it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, because it wasn't like a blogger told her thank god.
It was nice to hear that the wife was involved,
and so we get a little amuse boosh there the
Japanese aren't with Shannon and Heather and the readers. Well,
my god, I love that Heather called it out in
her confessional. She was like, Shannon can't seem to show
(10:35):
up with herself put together. I mean, at least someone
has said it inside the house. The voice is finally.
I mean, those readers were exceptional.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Honestly, I thought she looked pretty good, even with broken
read I thought like, you know what, if anybody's going
to pull off a pair of broken readers, it's Shannon's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Because I'm missing I'm missing an arm.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
She's just like us, Like she have so many broken readers,
you do.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I just have so many readers I don't have. They're
not broken because I have so many. They don't even
have a chance to be in danger because I switch
them so often. I like, look over at my nightstand
the other night. Somehow four pairs managed to pile up
over there, and I was like, wow, this is really,
this is this is age, this is what happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But it's also you can't walk around with them. The
second you realize you've started walking in your readers, you
put them down so you don't walk into the wall.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And that's how oh, well, I always have. They're always
down on my nose if I'm walking, or up on
my head, so like that's how they end up in
the back. But typically I've got one in every room,
well several in every room. But then they'll like start
to cross the streams and they'll merge in it out
of different rooms, and some things get really messed up.
I'm glad Shannon told Old Heather about the girls ripping
(12:02):
her about the comedy, Jen and her son Dawson getting
that tattoo and us, Like seeing the entire medical emergency
unfold in front of us was really disturbing. I feel
like we should not have seen that. They should have
cut that out. That was really bad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I was very impressed to the tattoo team knowing exactly
that it happens all the time. Honestly, Like, I'm sure
that they asked Jen if she was okay. She probably
asked Dawson. I'm betting that they there was a check
in about putting that scene in, But like I had
no idea that happened. When you got tattoos or was
a could likely enough scenario that that tattoo team was
(12:42):
like it happens all the time, Lollipop, like they just
knew exactly what to do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That was amazing. But he I was like, oh my god,
he's gonna have a seizure. I thought he was. I
thought he was having on It looked like it did.
And you know what, I have been told that when
you do pass out, you can have some of those
attributes of a seizure. Like obviously I don't remember this,
but when I was at work a long long time ago,
when I worked in advertising, I passed out. I gave blood.
(13:09):
It was bad because it was all going fine, and
then this other lady came over and she said she
tightened up the tourniquet and then it came out so fast.
And then she came back over. She was like, oh
my god, Oh my god, because like the blood was
like sorry to be gross, but it was coming out
basically because there was so much. And I didn't know that.
So I got up and I left after a while,
(13:31):
and then once I got in the elevator, I passed
out in the elevator, and the person with me said
that my legs went straight out like in a weird
kind of like seizure way, and then like I just
passed out. That was all that happened. But that does
one hundred percent happen. But also the alcohol is a
(13:51):
great tip. I remember when I had my sea section
and I was starting to get you know, woozy, like
very like I was going to pass out, and they
put an alcohol swab underneath my nose. Amazing. Oh yeah,
it really really works. So is it just because of
the pain or is it because it's just such an
(14:12):
intense experience.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I needed to I need more information. I was like,
all right, we'll educate us now, Bravo, and.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like did he obviously kept going. I mean that's I
would have stopped. It would have been like Marine Colish
seven six.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah. That was By the way, Jen's got a great
birthday seven seven seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, very cool, very lucky. And she was the ninety
eight degrees Jeff's seven hundred and seventy seven follower too.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Anyway, we should follow that account. I'm going to follow
that account.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm gonna call your ass out, call your ass out.
Watch he like he DMS you. He's like Emily, I've
been waiting for someone from Drama doling to like follow me. Okay,
so here's the deal. In the booth that day, I
am wearing my spring Fling outfit. If you are seeing
(15:18):
this on tier two, I've got my little ribbon in
my hair. I've got a flowered dress. Mla is showing
up also in a spring fling. Looks like a gorgeous
vintage piece blouse. Yes that has will I say? These
dainty little yellow flowers? Are they?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes? They they? They almost their yellow little yellow rosebuds.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Isn't that lovely rosebud? Rosebud for all you citizen cane heads.
All right, well we're getting into the spring Fling. I
loved it. I like that there was a cake situation
that was look so fun. I know you and I
know you would love that. I would love that. The
great British Bakeoff fans would absolutely love that. And beyond well.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
How about that baker.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm just gonna say the baker.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Damn damn, Like, have you know what you are one
of the you're a friend of official friend of that baker.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And thanks to Emily, because when Tara walked off. She
was like, I try to do everything I can to
be or good grace as I got. I mean, like,
what am I supposed to do? She's like, well, you
know what you gotta do is you just got to, like,
you know, throw a lot of love on her, just
like I would butter cream on a cake, and just
try to smooth it out, you know, you know, one
(16:35):
day at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
She's like, I uh am the only one. The Baker's like,
I'm the only one that will film with Katie now,
so I'll be with her next week.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, that's awesome. Please make that happen. Oh my god. Yeah,
I mean, look when Emily Emily knows what to do.
Here's what happened in La Okay, guys, Okay, Gretchen, here's
what happened. We all said you're you're shitty and we
don't trust you. We played a game and you lost,
(17:09):
you know, and look, it's not nice to hear or
you know, of course it's not nice to hear that.
That's gonna hurt her feeling because it wasn't just Emily,
it was both Emily and Heather. But like, at this
point to not have the self reflection to know that
(17:29):
You've used every piece of information on anyone you've been
close to on this show at a later date. To
not be that aware is strange.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, it's really strange. I'm having like the whole this
whole season. I guess things shift so quickly with the
different fallouts that I'm having a hard time like absorbing
the fallouts because they're so it's shifting a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's like Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is hard
to keep up with. It's so especially now it's so chaotic.
But in Orange County can get like that too, But
even more so, like you're saying right now, there's so
much divisiveness with the people who are supposedly allies, Like
there are definitely two groups, but then some of the
(18:24):
people from that group are crossing over and then they're
also against others. It is it's a lot, you know.
I think that Heather is taking her moment this season
to stand up to Tamra, especially because of some of
the accusations that I'm sure she's hearing from you know,
Emily and whomever, well Gina, that she's like afraid to
(18:44):
stand up to to Tamra. I mean, that's been something
that's been out there for a while, and I think
that she is doing a good job because like at
that lunch when she was like, you know, when Tama's like,
I don't trust you, like I can't believe you weren't
there for me, and Heather's like, I can't leave. You
didn't text me back saying that you were alive, Like
you know, she really is handing her ass to her.
(19:06):
She's handing Tamra's cut fitness booty right at her, And
I think it's fine. Is it necessarily like the best
time to do it? Maybe not, but I mean I
don't really care. I mean, here's the thing. Tamra is
the most hurt because of the stuff that's happening with Teddy,
and she says it at the end, She's like, I
(19:28):
you know, I'm going through the I'm dealing with the
hardest thing in my life right now, and you're not helping.
And here's what I have to say about that, Like
anyone who takes someone else's illness and makes it their
pedestal to stand on in order to get or gain
(19:52):
empathy or some kind of control over people is and
not a good person. And I don't like that at all.
I think that it's I absolutely have empathy for her,
like a million times over, and I wouldn't wish that
(20:13):
and anybody to have a good friend go through what
Teddy's going through. But she's using it in these situations,
and I don't like that, and I don't think people
who deal with serious illnesses would like that either. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I see, I know what you're saying. I don't know
how intentional her dealing with this the way she's dealing
with it is. I think we're seeing her go through
therapy for the first time, and I don't think she
understands how to feel any of this, because like, in
my mind, Tamer's gone through a lot worse, like being
fully cut off from your kids and dealing with that
(20:50):
that seems like, personally, like a bigger thing, to bigger
stress to me than what the Teddy stuff is, because
because like, while that is awful, the like Teger, that's
her child.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, two totally different things, but yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But but I just think with the therapy now, like
it's like she's feeling every like she's feeling a lot
of this for the first time ever. There is a
shift in her I don't. I don't know where it's
going to end, but there's definitely a change in her
and she does not know how to process anything right now.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, Like, no, she doesn't. And I mean that's why
I'm saying, like, is it the best time for them
to be telling her this? Probably not if it hasn't
really there was no reason for it to come up
at that time. It was just a stupid game.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, But that's the vibe on OC these days. It's
like the second someone says something, you have to then
be like the one that tells that person it's that
is it? And it is a game. It feels like
a game.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And also in other cities too, and they know it
because like it's going to be, they're going to see it,
and they want to deal with it like right now
instead of like new information at the reunion and they
want to move a storyline around. But I mean, I
did appreciate that. Emily was like, you know, look, you
can't expect me to not think that of you, like
that's what you've done. And and I think Tamar should
(22:19):
look at that absolutely because she's saying like I've never
done anything, and I understand, like she's when she's like,
I'm not a liar, I'm loyal. Well she has been.
I agree that she's been both good things, but like
when she turns, she does weaponize, you know, very personal information. Yeah,
(22:39):
that person is shared. And so what we're yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We're getting right now is a allegedly possibly newly medicated
Tamra oh extra boost. Well that's what she said that
she was in New Orleans or wherever. She said that
she had just taken something.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh right that. Oh, but like you mean still like
still medicated, or.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
She's in therapy. Maybe she's trying some anti anxiety antidepressants
for the first time. I don't know. I'm throwing that
out there as part of this new mental health journey.
She's on the as a possibility that the booze hasn't
really slowed, even though she says it is. I mean
to me, it doesn't seem to have And because she's
(23:20):
also saying that she's drinking, so I'm like that combination
might not be great. Also, she's talking about shit she's
never talked about before in therapy, and then like she's
at you know, she's she has to perform for the cameras.
So it is a fucking tam wreck.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
That's wreck. I mean, I don't know what she's talking
about in therapy. I don't know how often she's going
to therapy though. These are things just that one episode.
Just I mean, how do we know we know Shannon's
going twice a week?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well that's what Shannon says, and Tamra says she's still going.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So I've I'll see, we didn't get a number. We
didn't get a twice a week number. We didn't get
a once a week, we didn't get every Thursday. But look,
she's got the time that Jennifer followed ninety eight degrees
at five And by the way, Jennifer, uh, we see
you so hard, like own up to what you did,
(24:22):
so shady, so shady, you're gonna say it in You're confessional,
but you're not gonna say it to Shannon, I mean
to Tamra. Why but why not?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You're so baby bird? I mean no, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, she's like, Okay, Tamra, It's like, babe, you're
totally busted. You're so busted.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, you're so busted. And you can't get mad at
Tamra for knowing you're busted. Like you know, what I mean, Like,
Tamra is correct a lot of times for pulling shit
out of the closet you thought was dead or not
going to come out, because we all know we're not idiots,
So thank you, Tamra.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sometimes, yeah, absolutely, Tamra says to everybody that she's gonna
meet with Katie, and this really throws everyone for a
loop and everyone's just soap. And Emily's like, if you
do this, like, if you believe, we're just gonna say, oh,
you know, I work good. I actually like this. She
was like, so you're gonna believe what she has to
(25:18):
say after doing this, this, this, and this, because she's
gonna work with your narrative against Gretchen. And that's a
great point, and that's one hundred percent. I'm sure what
her motive is.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, well, look, we all form alliances on this island,
so go for it, Tamra. In fairness to Emily and
to Tamra and to Katie, I don't think Tamara's gonna
meet with Katie unless she has a really good feeling
there's gonna be some clarity to it, because I don't
think she would waste her time.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well we know she did because there've been pictures all
over the web and liking her stuff. So they've clearly
met Tamara clearly believes her. They're clearly allies now, and
I'm sure Katie's back in her good graces. Where does
that leave us? You know, where does that leave us?
Because Damra's done filming. She's gone.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, it's like what, you'll never see my face again? No.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I love when she quits. I mean, it really is
something else, like it is the second it's the third
time she's quit the show ultimately, and she she's like,
I'm just I'm gonna make cakes, and this is the
last time you're gonna see me because I'm not gonna
film anymore. This is the last time I'm filming because Emily,
tell me what you said and you don't trust me.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I gotta say it makes it feel more real. I
know that she did it nineteen times this episode. Yeah. Yeah,
she does say she's gonna quit and she's not filming anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, oh yes, but she cares, you know, she cares.
H She's at her wits end, and I think like it.
Part of it is the teddy stuff, you know, where
she's like, I can't have any more on me because
I'm dealing with such a serious situation.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I think she's projecting some of the kids stuff into
the Teddy stuff. I don't think it's all about Teddy.
I really don't. I know that big deal.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I think that she's projecting, but I think like she's
using it.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I have known people in my life that have knowingly
used something like that to become like what you're saying.
I don't know if Tamar is fully aware of what
she's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I just don't think most people know that they're doing
something when they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Later on they probably they might, but in the moment,
they if they're, you know, manipulating the situation to help
them because they just want love. At the end of
the day, people just want to be loved and unconditionally accepted,
and and that's what Tamar wants, you know. I mean, yeah,
(27:53):
she wants carte blanche for everything right now because of
what's going on. She's on this show, so that that's
just not going to happen because people are going to
hold you accountable. You know, it's not gonna happen. You
can't get a pass. You're just not going to get
a pass from these ladies, and not to say that
they shouldn't give her a pass. I actually am kind
(28:16):
of like, why are you even telling her this right now?
You know, It's just it was a stupid game.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Back to the beginning, when Tameran was when Tamor was decorating,
I was impressed that how much of decorating for her
own party she was doing.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, I'm sure she probably had some help coming in,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Because that that that table looked, that spread looked professionally done.
It looked good. Yeah, but I like the wisteria. I
got a little nervous when they all left the wisteria
hanging over that open flame. I know, yeah, I know,
this is pretty controlled a fire, but I'm still like one,
Gina's just.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
A whoa, I'm on fire.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's a little scary there.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And she left that cake sitting there. I'm like, nobody's
telling you you can't bring your cake. Gina, bring your cake.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She got it, She turned around and got it. We
just gotay.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
By the way, I will also say, I know, producers, editors,
I have been very harsh on you lately. I will
say you shot the cakes well, because I was like, oh,
here we fucking go. This icing's going to be a
shit show for continuity. We're gonna get flowers and an
empty cake and huge flowers and then the half eaten
(29:33):
But no, pro didn't to my knowledge. Yeah, they bought
the cakes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
See jobs. When Heather comes in the kitchen and Tarma's like,
I'm going to bake this and this is the last
time you're gonna see me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And they're not baking.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
By the way, I didn't say that I'm gonna bake
a cake.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Baker's like, what the fucker's bakers?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
What is that? Like, how's that thing?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Go? Baked? Me? Caked cake, baby cakes?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
As fast as you can. I'm gonna roll and do it,
and not the friends that you because you said you
don't trust me, so I'm gonna quet. I say, you're disgusting, right,
no baking, just frosting. And then Heather's like, I'm hurt
(30:24):
by you. You were shit talking my career, So can
we just talk about this, Gina and have anything? And
it's so annoying and Jen getting in here. Y'all, y'alls
don't know what you just pulled up on in this
podcast because we have a lot of improv experience and
comedy experience. Even though we are not funny, we clearly
are being very transparent about that we are not funny,
but like you know, we we said this last week.
(30:47):
We all know that Heather is a trained actress. She's
been on many sitcoms, So for her to like I
just have so many problems with Gina saying all this
and Jen being like I didn't know. These are people
who are completely ignorant, completely ignorant and judgmental for that matter,
and not supportive at all.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And for Gina to be like I was four when
your your sitcoms were on, I'm like you motherfuckers will
go down eighty rabbit holes to find Jeff Timmins' instagram
and watch every clip on that, but you didn't. You've
never watched Heather's right, You've never watched one appearance, like
(31:27):
you've never gone on YouTube once. I don't believe it.
I don't believe this at all. Well.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Also, for someone on the Real Housewives to say that
is not a good look. Like I could see someone
saying that on a vander Pump Rules the reboot or
a younger show saying that to an older person, but
(31:52):
like Gina is not twenty two. So for her to
shade and make an age's comment like that, I just
thought was really classless.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And just not believable. Like if I'm gonna be on
a show with somebody, I'm gonna know everything about them,
even if I didn't know the second I was on
the show. By five years in, I've had a glass
of wine and YouTube them and seen what's going on,
like especially if I'm gonna fight with them or whatever,
like she has seen that. I've said, I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
She didn't take the time. I'm sorry to say, Emily,
she has not taken the time.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I don't believe her.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No one has looked up her IMDb. It's very clear
because these ladies don't care. That doesn't matter to them.
It's that that's why this is so insulting, is that
they don't even respect the industry that creates entertainment actual
not reality, but actual entertainment booth.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So it's like, I mean, most comedians are not funny
and going nuts, Like when you hang out with them
one on one, it's very heather, I mean, chill.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's two people. It's one person who doesn't understand another
person's career and how it works, and that is absolutely acceptable.
But to be so blatantly mean is just rude and
very strange. And I think Heather was like when she
was like I, if anyone was gonna support me, I
would have thought it was Gina, And honestly me too.
(33:28):
I was very shocked with the way that she handled this, Like,
obviously she's in real estate right now, and if someone
were to be like real estate, you know, like I
didn't know you, or I didn't know you built houses,
and it's like, well, it's not building houses, it's selling.
Why did I didn't know that you painted houses and
then tried to sell them, you know, Like it's that
(33:50):
kind of ignorance, that's what she's showing her and like, yeah,
it's just disrespectful. I mean obviously because it's triggering to
me because I'm clearly you've been in the entertainment industry
and I know what it takes now. I think that
it says a lot about Heather, who has gone back
to like the grass roots and the foundation of training
(34:12):
when she doesn't have to. But that's like what you
do when you want to have you know, you want
to get back into a career. You do the heavy
lifting and it's hustle. So I just think that was
very mean, mean spek.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I will say, knowing what I know the few episodes ago,
when we found out that Heather was doing that, I
had a new respect for Heather because what she is
doing is like truly going back to the basics and
back putting herself, like she said in a class with
twenty two year olds, Like it's just like very I
(34:47):
respect it because it shows that, like, yeah, she probably
could buy private Obviously, she could buy private lessons or
whatever she wanted to do and pay improvisers to come
over so she doesn't have to do this in a
mak a public setting or something. But she doing the work.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
When Gina said, I didn't know you were a comedian, Heather,
I just didn't don't really find you that funny. I mean,
I understand her point that like when Heather's around, it's
not like she's yuck yucking around.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Most comics are, but I mean they're so chill.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I think that Gina's point. I understand Gina's point,
but to take it further, it's like she's not a
stand up and she's not an improviser she's using. She's
learning those skills so that she can do comedic acting
and be better at timing when she's an actor. That's
what needed to be explained to Gina. You don't have
(35:40):
to be a professional in that field or a funny
person in order to try to attain those skills. It's
just very weird. I was very disappointed about that. Yeah,
she's quitting. Tama's quitting. And Heather really gives it right
back to her and she's like, this is a great
example of why you don't you know why this is
(36:02):
like I don't trust you. She's like, you are doing this,
You're constantly quitting. I mean, I mean, oh god, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But it helped because it's not like I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong, But it's not like Tamara does
this all the time. She does this is like the
first season. I can remember where she's saying I'm quitting,
I'm quitting, I'm quitting over and over again. I don't actually.
I mean, people get push to the brink and it's
usually in the finale or something like that, but this
(36:35):
has been a lot. Or at the reunions or they'll
they'll do a walk off, but like this is a
little this is I'm enjoying Tamra's quitting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, it's fun even though it's yeah really she did
it a long time ago, but it yeah, you know
that was on a cast trip and she ran away
and she was like, you'll never see my face again.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And that was.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
But like she didn't say quit, she just said you'll
ever see my face again.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, but it's not it's not like recurring enough that
it's annoying. Right now, I'm like, oh, this is fun,
this feels free.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, she's on the edge, you know, and it's very clear,
and they don't care that she's on the edge, so
they're more interested in playing their cards right on this show.
Like how there's like I've got to stand up to
Tamra this season or else the jig is up, Like
I have to show that I stand up to her.
(37:30):
Emily's like I have to show that I'm being transparent
and that I'm not being two faced when I'm with Tamra.
Like everyone has to step up and say with that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It's annoying me. I think you nailed it, Amy, That's
what's annoying me about this season. That's like when Emily
comes in on business right away to be like, this
is what was said. It's everybody playing their cards right
and it feels that way, and it doesn't feel like
there's an absorbing of a good time or anything exce
stept for Okay, I got to do this right right now.
(38:03):
Business business, So yeah, and that's why maybe things are
pivoting so fast, Whereas in Salt Lake, I don't get
that vibe as hard. I feel like people are just
like I know, I'm gonna fucking say it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I'll take you down. Everyone wants to take everybody down.
Yes that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, whereas this was just like, oh, check now, how
the needs to confront Gina?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Check Like that's like, oh you want to talk about this,
let's go out here, Okay, we're going to make up.
And I know that it's a you know, people say
it's about like moving forward, and Tamra says that, like
it's about having issues and then moving on from it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
But I do feel like Shannon is feeling very organic
this season and usually does.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
To me like, yeah, she's not really involved in anything
right now, she's just feeling real. I did you see
how she did you see how she just is eviscerating
everybody when she was kay eye, Yeah she gets upset.
She's just sitting back and pack my pants.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I got my role on with pants. Yeah, she just
feels even though she's not, I need her because even
though she's not jumping in like on schedule, she's real
and I need that because some of this is not.
It all feels real. It's just like you said, it's
like I gotta do this. This is now on my checklist,
(39:32):
my to do list at this event is ABC.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right right, Yeah, Shannon's just chilling in the back going
like there she goes. That's why I'm not friends with her.
That's why it is weird how she's just there and
like they're just not really friends, they're just you know,
they're okay. Eddie was like, hey is Shannon. Kevin can't
wait to see her? You know. It's so funny. Well,
(39:56):
interesting episode, and we'll see if Tarmor's gonna sho up
next week.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We already know she does, because she does sit down
with Katie. Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Maybe it's off camera, maybe it's off She hooked. She
hooked up with Julia in the Hamptons and the ninety
eight degrees. Guy's wife was also there, so it's got all.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
The audio of all the hookups, no visual, just audio.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, oh my god. It's like works for NPR, just
carries around like a little.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Killing in for Terry Gross's week on Fresh Air, and
it's just audio of housewives fucking. I'm in for Terry Gross.
We're gonna be interviewing the guy that audio taped camera
(40:56):
fucking in the Hamptons.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Hello, guy tape camera in the booth fucking Hey huh, Dauria,
great to be here, Great to be here. So when
you were in that booth, did you think you were
going to be filming or did you always know it
was going to be audio.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's a good question, slid. I My medium is audio,
so I always knew if someone was going to get
a visual, since I was a child, I knew, like
somebody else get the visual, what I'm going to do
is I'm going to get vocal and I'm going to
lay down the tracks and I'm gonna layer it. So
you know, it was like a no brainer for me.
(41:37):
As soon as Tama pulled her pants down, I was like,
turn the microphone so on, turn the cameras off. I'm
not the guy for that.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, when you were a child, did you ever have
a premonition of your success and that it would lead
you to being a boy band and then ultimately fuck
a housewife? Great question in a booth.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Say that is a great question. I don't even know
how I can answer it.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, that's our time. Thank you so much for this
rivening interview with the guy who audio taped camera fucking
in an audio booth.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Thank you. I was next week promotional tour for my
voice memos. Well, we wanted slave. Everybody said we want
Slade back so bad we need Slade back. Everybody demanded it.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Everybody said they wanted Gretchen and Slade. They did, they.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Recorded it, they posted it.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All right, guys, Well, I hope you enjoyed your spring fling.
We did what we could do. We did what we did.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You know it wasn't a fall frown.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
What come on now, you guys have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Are the Net this weekend?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I love to see Net
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here and hello. We before we get into Orange County,
we have to just dip our toes in Miami for
a second because just the second, I mean, I cannot
believe the bomb that was dropped. Spoiler okay, spoiler alert.
(01:23):
If you haven't watched Miami, you don't want to know.
Everybody knows everywhere confessed that in the Hamptons, she and
Adriana slept together, they had an affair, and this in
fact was of course during the time in which she
was and still is married to Martina.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I'm sure I have a feeling Martina knows.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't think that she would have admitted this that
the reunion if Martina wasn't like, oh, go ahead, I'm
gonna I got the kids and you failed. Yeah, I'm
gonna go hit some balls at a canvas. I'm not
doing it. I'm not doing it justice. I don't work
on that. I'm just so floored by this information. The
person who I don't think knew was Adriana that that
(02:06):
was coming.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't think so either. But then I see a
preview for the reunion, the second episode of the reunion,
and they showed unseen footage of age of Adriana making
threats to say something like you don't want me to
say that, you do not want me to Uh, what's
going to happen?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh my, oh my good? So I so yeah, So
now that's exposed. So it wasn't off the table that
she was going to bring it to the reunion, that's
for sure. In terms of Adriana thinking that.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think it was a shock, but it looks like
that's been dangled as a threat to Julia. And I
think Julia, because when I first saw it, I was like,
did she just out her? Like I was like, this
might not this is not good. But then I was like, oh,
it's been a threat to Julia this whole season, and
(03:03):
maybe she's just like, you know what, uh, you can't
keep threatening me right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, now we understand what she was referring to when
she was saying the mental abuse or like the yelling
and all this stuff, and we didn't understand that. And
I'm thinking, you know, I threw some theories out last
week and those will stay over on the Patreon. But
I guess I'm surprised that she and Martina are still
together and Martina just put up with it. I mean
(03:31):
she was okay with that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't know if I don't know who knows, like
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Obviously was I don't know whether they're feeling Martina.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I have a feeling Martinez.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Cool about that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean they don't sound like they're in an
open relationship, but I feel like there might be some
tally marks on Martina's board as well. Whoa, that's my
that's my hunch. Wow, Martina, like Martina h is a prize,
like the prize, Like I can see her.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Babes babesy wanting to get you know, behind that net.
You know what I'm saying. They want to love love
you know what I'm saying. They want to doubles up.
That's like, you know what I'm saying. I know so
many more tennis references can I do? Let's see here
the string that racket.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh yeah, thank you, I was worried there there's more.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Keep going. I'll interrupt you when it's time.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They want to smooth that clay. They want to, Yeah,
they want to re line the court.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I think that I don't need a Okay, then
they want to, uh, they want to.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They went a volley. They want to They want to
scissor that net as a reward when they win. What
is that? Is that? Something? Sure?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Is that net when they win? That's absolutely the same.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The coaches always say, like the first thing you need
to do when you win a scissor the net. It's
kind of like when you make a touchdown and you do
the touchdown dance when when female, when females win at tennis,
they scissor than net.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's what I thought. I know, and I know that,
and I'm glad that everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Now, Yeah, okay, Well, getting back to the real discussion,
is that people looking for some Martines, you know, and
they're going to get if she's ready to go. That's
my hunch, okay, allegedly, because like we don't know anything
about that, and I.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Don't think that right now they are in that same place.
I think they're in a better place because they have
the they've adopted the kids. They seem very yeah, but
you know, who knows.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know. I remember that trip because that was when
Adriana was really heavy with flirting with Julia. She was
in that bathtub, like taking her top off in front
of everybody claiming that room, and she was so extra flirty.
They were so flirty from the beginning of this like
new revamp. That it does, I guess it doesn't surprise me,
(06:27):
but like at the same time, I mean, I am
a little shocked that she would cheat on Martina.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well I am, and I'm not. I mean, because like
we got a whiff of that with the possible her
trying to hook up with Sandy.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Clearly, now that can be a solid assumption and alleged
accusation that that was her modus OPERENDI because yeah, but
then we didn't know that she had already cheated, so
I wasn't willing to fully go there. But now one hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Percent yeah, And and I would say.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Andrew Room, I'm just going to keep cutting you off.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I you know, when when someone says we were in
a bad place, that is so vague to me that
maybe they did like kind of split up for a second,
Like I don't know, like maybe like.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Someone says we were in a bad place, it means
someone cheated and then the other one found out that's
what put them in the bad place eating indeed. But anyway,
well this was Wow. What do you guys think? I
posted something on the Patreon and it actually it is
on the public Patreon just like we got to talk
(07:39):
about it, So drop your comments. Patrion dot com slash
drama Darling, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Speaking disgusting, d disgusting, you got an isolated disgusting this week,
Speaking disgusting.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's it's hard to pick it. Up. Do you hear
that like eighties action movie music in the back that
so weird? I loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Disgusting.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's like, oh, it's like Tarmra's running man music. She's
running from scene to scene to you know, get out
of this show. We had a couple we had welcome in,
you know, we had a double welcome in off the
top with Shannon and Heather going into the Japanese art place.
Just welcome us, welcome in two different people. Well, Tamar
(08:23):
and Eddie back out in the patio. No watermelon this time,
Emily glad. Aren't you glad about that?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I was relieved? Okay, clearly got my notes.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
They no watermelon. So Tara is obviously she says to
Eddie that she's very hurt about Heather Nuts sticking up
for her when Gretchen told everybody about like this ninety
eight degrees guy, and so she's passed at Heather and
and then we get the information that this is so weird,
(08:51):
like that Jennifer ba DROWNTI followed Jeff from ninety eight degrees.
I'll just say Jeff okay Uh allegedly allegedly followed him
on Instagram and in her confessional. Yeah, of course she
did it to see if he would notice so that
she could get some tea. And so she's like, she
(09:12):
followed him. I'm so passed about that, Like why would
she follow him? I mean, it's it's so interesting to
me that information got back to Tamra that quickly, that
the wife. So that's amazing, really proud of everyone in
that in that circle to just funnel that information like
headline news. I mean, that was great coming down the wire,
(09:33):
coming down the Housewives ap wire.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Especially because this wasn't airing. Then I would see yes,
you know what I mean, like that the wife clocked
an OC wife and then told Tamra.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But I think that I don't know, this is what
I want to know. I think that Tamra reached out
to the wife and was like, heads up, this is
what's happening right now, and I just want you to
know nothing happened, and I don't wait to feel weird
about it whatever, and so this will be probably she
probably gave you know, a girl to girl and the.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wife is like, oh, that's funny because shen exactly okay,
got it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, because it wasn't like a blogger told her thank god.
It was nice to hear that the wife was involved,
and so we get a little amuse boosh there the
Japanese aren't with Shannon and Heather and the readers. Well,
my god, I love that Heather called it out in
her confessional. She was like, Shannon can't seem to show
(10:35):
up with herself put together. I mean, at least someone
has said it inside the house. The voice is finally.
I mean, those readers were exceptional.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Honestly, I thought she looked pretty good, even with broken
read I thought like, you know what, if anybody's going
to pull off a pair of broken readers, it's Shannon's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Because I'm missing I'm missing an arm.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
She's just like us, Like she have so many broken readers,
you do.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I just have so many readers I don't have. They're
not broken because I have so many. They don't even
have a chance to be in danger because I switch
them so often. I like, look over at my nightstand
the other night. Somehow four pairs managed to pile up
over there, and I was like, wow, this is really,
this is this is age, this is what happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But it's also you can't walk around with them. The
second you realize you've started walking in your readers, you
put them down so you don't walk into the wall.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And that's how oh, well, I always have. They're always
down on my nose if I'm walking, or up on
my head, so like that's how they end up in
the back. But typically I've got one in every room,
well several in every room. But then they'll like start
to cross the streams and they'll merge in it out
of different rooms, and some things get really messed up.
I'm glad Shannon told Old Heather about the girls ripping
(12:02):
her about the comedy, Jen and her son Dawson getting
that tattoo and us, Like seeing the entire medical emergency
unfold in front of us was really disturbing. I feel
like we should not have seen that. They should have
cut that out. That was really bad.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I was very impressed to the tattoo team knowing exactly
that it happens all the time. Honestly, Like, I'm sure
that they asked Jen if she was okay. She probably
asked Dawson. I'm betting that they there was a check
in about putting that scene in, But like I had
no idea that happened. When you got tattoos or was
a could likely enough scenario that that tattoo team was
(12:42):
like it happens all the time, Lollipop, like they just
knew exactly what to do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That was amazing. But he I was like, oh my god,
he's gonna have a seizure. I thought he was. I
thought he was having on It looked like it did.
And you know what, I have been told that when
you do pass out, you can have some of those
attributes of a seizure. Like obviously I don't remember this,
but when I was at work a long long time ago,
when I worked in advertising, I passed out. I gave blood.
(13:09):
It was bad because it was all going fine, and
then this other lady came over and she said she
tightened up the tourniquet and then it came out so fast.
And then she came back over. She was like, oh
my god, Oh my god, because like the blood was
like sorry to be gross, but it was coming out
basically because there was so much. And I didn't know that.
So I got up and I left after a while,
(13:31):
and then once I got in the elevator, I passed
out in the elevator, and the person with me said
that my legs went straight out like in a weird
kind of like seizure way, and then like I just
passed out. That was all that happened. But that does
one hundred percent happen. But also the alcohol is a
(13:51):
great tip. I remember when I had my sea section
and I was starting to get you know, woozy, like
very like I was going to pass out, and they
put an alcohol swab underneath my nose. Amazing. Oh yeah,
it really really works. So is it just because of
the pain or is it because it's just such an
(14:12):
intense experience.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I needed to I need more information. I was like,
all right, we'll educate us now, Bravo, and.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Like did he obviously kept going. I mean that's I
would have stopped. It would have been like Marine Colish
seven six.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah. That was By the way, Jen's got a great
birthday seven seven seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, very cool, very lucky. And she was the ninety
eight degrees Jeff's seven hundred and seventy seven follower too.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Anyway, we should follow that account. I'm going to follow
that account.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm gonna call your ass out, call your ass out.
Watch he like he DMS you. He's like Emily, I've
been waiting for someone from Drama doling to like follow me. Okay,
so here's the deal. In the booth that day, I
am wearing my spring Fling outfit. If you are seeing
(15:18):
this on tier two, I've got my little ribbon in
my hair. I've got a flowered dress. Mla is showing
up also in a spring fling. Looks like a gorgeous
vintage piece blouse. Yes that has will I say? These
dainty little yellow flowers? Are they?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes? They they? They almost their yellow little yellow rosebuds.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Isn't that lovely rosebud? Rosebud for all you citizen cane heads.
All right, well we're getting into the spring Fling. I
loved it. I like that there was a cake situation
that was look so fun. I know you and I
know you would love that. I would love that. The
great British Bakeoff fans would absolutely love that. And beyond well.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
How about that baker.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm just gonna say the baker.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Damn damn, Like, have you know what you are one
of the you're a friend of official friend of that baker.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And thanks to Emily, because when Tara walked off. She
was like, I try to do everything I can to
be or good grace as I got. I mean, like,
what am I supposed to do? She's like, well, you
know what you gotta do is you just got to, like,
you know, throw a lot of love on her, just
like I would butter cream on a cake, and just
try to smooth it out, you know, you know, one
(16:35):
day at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
She's like, I uh am the only one. The Baker's like,
I'm the only one that will film with Katie now,
so I'll be with her next week.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, that's awesome. Please make that happen. Oh my god. Yeah,
I mean, look when Emily Emily knows what to do.
Here's what happened in La Okay, guys, Okay, Gretchen, here's
what happened. We all said you're you're shitty and we
don't trust you. We played a game and you lost,
(17:09):
you know, and look, it's not nice to hear or
you know, of course it's not nice to hear that.
That's gonna hurt her feeling because it wasn't just Emily,
it was both Emily and Heather. But like, at this
point to not have the self reflection to know that
(17:29):
You've used every piece of information on anyone you've been
close to on this show at a later date. To
not be that aware is strange.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, it's really strange. I'm having like the whole this
whole season. I guess things shift so quickly with the
different fallouts that I'm having a hard time like absorbing
the fallouts because they're so it's shifting a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's like Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is hard
to keep up with. It's so especially now it's so chaotic.
But in Orange County can get like that too, But
even more so, like you're saying right now, there's so
much divisiveness with the people who are supposedly allies, Like
there are definitely two groups, but then some of the
(18:24):
people from that group are crossing over and then they're
also against others. It is it's a lot, you know.
I think that Heather is taking her moment this season
to stand up to Tamra, especially because of some of
the accusations that I'm sure she's hearing from you know,
Emily and whomever, well Gina, that she's like afraid to
(18:44):
stand up to to Tamra. I mean, that's been something
that's been out there for a while, and I think
that she is doing a good job because like at
that lunch when she was like, you know, when Tama's like,
I don't trust you, like I can't believe you weren't
there for me, and Heather's like, I can't leave. You
didn't text me back saying that you were alive, Like
you know, she really is handing her ass to her.
(19:06):
She's handing Tamra's cut fitness booty right at her, And
I think it's fine. Is it necessarily like the best
time to do it? Maybe not, but I mean I
don't really care. I mean, here's the thing. Tamra is
the most hurt because of the stuff that's happening with Teddy,
and she says it at the end, She's like, I
(19:28):
you know, I'm going through the I'm dealing with the
hardest thing in my life right now, and you're not helping.
And here's what I have to say about that, Like
anyone who takes someone else's illness and makes it their
pedestal to stand on in order to get or gain
(19:52):
empathy or some kind of control over people is and
not a good person. And I don't like that at all.
I think that it's I absolutely have empathy for her,
like a million times over, and I wouldn't wish that
(20:13):
and anybody to have a good friend go through what
Teddy's going through. But she's using it in these situations,
and I don't like that, and I don't think people
who deal with serious illnesses would like that either. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I see, I know what you're saying. I don't know
how intentional her dealing with this the way she's dealing
with it is. I think we're seeing her go through
therapy for the first time, and I don't think she
understands how to feel any of this, because like, in
my mind, Tamer's gone through a lot worse, like being
fully cut off from your kids and dealing with that
(20:50):
that seems like, personally, like a bigger thing, to bigger
stress to me than what the Teddy stuff is, because
because like, while that is awful, the like Teger, that's
her child.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, two totally different things, but yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But but I just think with the therapy now, like
it's like she's feeling every like she's feeling a lot
of this for the first time ever. There is a
shift in her I don't. I don't know where it's
going to end, but there's definitely a change in her
and she does not know how to process anything right now.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, Like, no, she doesn't. And I mean that's why
I'm saying, like, is it the best time for them
to be telling her this? Probably not if it hasn't
really there was no reason for it to come up
at that time. It was just a stupid game.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, But that's the vibe on OC these days. It's
like the second someone says something, you have to then
be like the one that tells that person it's that
is it? And it is a game. It feels like
a game.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And also in other cities too, and they know it
because like it's going to be, they're going to see it,
and they want to deal with it like right now
instead of like new information at the reunion and they
want to move a storyline around. But I mean, I
did appreciate that. Emily was like, you know, look, you
can't expect me to not think that of you, like
that's what you've done. And and I think Tamar should
(22:19):
look at that absolutely because she's saying like I've never
done anything, and I understand, like she's when she's like,
I'm not a liar, I'm loyal. Well she has been.
I agree that she's been both good things, but like
when she turns, she does weaponize, you know, very personal information. Yeah,
(22:39):
that person is shared. And so what we're yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We're getting right now is a allegedly possibly newly medicated
Tamra oh extra boost. Well that's what she said that
she was in New Orleans or wherever. She said that
she had just taken something.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh right that. Oh, but like you mean still like
still medicated, or.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
She's in therapy. Maybe she's trying some anti anxiety antidepressants
for the first time. I don't know. I'm throwing that
out there as part of this new mental health journey.
She's on the as a possibility that the booze hasn't
really slowed, even though she says it is. I mean
to me, it doesn't seem to have And because she's
(23:20):
also saying that she's drinking, so I'm like that combination
might not be great. Also, she's talking about shit she's
never talked about before in therapy, and then like she's
at you know, she's she has to perform for the cameras.
So it is a fucking tam wreck.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
That's wreck. I mean, I don't know what she's talking
about in therapy. I don't know how often she's going
to therapy though. These are things just that one episode.
Just I mean, how do we know we know Shannon's
going twice a week?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well that's what Shannon says, and Tamra says she's still going.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So I've I'll see, we didn't get a number. We
didn't get a twice a week number. We didn't get
a once a week, we didn't get every Thursday. But look,
she's got the time that Jennifer followed ninety eight degrees
at five And by the way, Jennifer, uh, we see
you so hard, like own up to what you did,
(24:22):
so shady, so shady, you're gonna say it in You're confessional,
but you're not gonna say it to Shannon, I mean
to Tamra. Why but why not?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You're so baby bird? I mean no, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, she's like, Okay, Tamra, It's like, babe, you're
totally busted. You're so busted.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, you're so busted. And you can't get mad at
Tamra for knowing you're busted. Like you know, what I mean, Like,
Tamra is correct a lot of times for pulling shit
out of the closet you thought was dead or not
going to come out, because we all know we're not idiots,
So thank you, Tamra.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sometimes, yeah, absolutely, Tamra says to everybody that she's gonna
meet with Katie, and this really throws everyone for a
loop and everyone's just soap. And Emily's like, if you
do this, like, if you believe, we're just gonna say, oh,
you know, I work good. I actually like this. She
was like, so you're gonna believe what she has to
(25:18):
say after doing this, this, this, and this, because she's
gonna work with your narrative against Gretchen. And that's a
great point, and that's one hundred percent. I'm sure what
her motive is.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, well, look, we all form alliances on this island,
so go for it, Tamra. In fairness to Emily and
to Tamra and to Katie, I don't think Tamara's gonna
meet with Katie unless she has a really good feeling
there's gonna be some clarity to it, because I don't
think she would waste her time.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well we know she did because there've been pictures all
over the web and liking her stuff. So they've clearly
met Tamara clearly believes her. They're clearly allies now, and
I'm sure Katie's back in her good graces. Where does
that leave us? You know, where does that leave us?
Because Damra's done filming. She's gone.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, it's like what, you'll never see my face again? No.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I love when she quits. I mean, it really is
something else, like it is the second it's the third
time she's quit the show ultimately, and she she's like,
I'm just I'm gonna make cakes, and this is the
last time you're gonna see me because I'm not gonna
film anymore. This is the last time I'm filming because Emily,
tell me what you said and you don't trust me.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I gotta say it makes it feel more real. I
know that she did it nineteen times this episode. Yeah. Yeah,
she does say she's gonna quit and she's not filming anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, oh yes, but she cares, you know, she cares.
H She's at her wits end, and I think like it.
Part of it is the teddy stuff, you know, where
she's like, I can't have any more on me because
I'm dealing with such a serious situation.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I think she's projecting some of the kids stuff into
the Teddy stuff. I don't think it's all about Teddy.
I really don't. I know that big deal.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I think that she's projecting, but I think like she's
using it.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I have known people in my life that have knowingly
used something like that to become like what you're saying.
I don't know if Tamar is fully aware of what
she's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I just don't think most people know that they're doing
something when they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Later on they probably they might, but in the moment,
they if they're, you know, manipulating the situation to help
them because they just want love. At the end of
the day, people just want to be loved and unconditionally accepted,
and and that's what Tamar wants, you know. I mean, yeah,
(27:53):
she wants carte blanche for everything right now because of
what's going on. She's on this show, so that that's
just not going to happen because people are going to
hold you accountable. You know, it's not gonna happen. You
can't get a pass. You're just not going to get
a pass from these ladies, and not to say that
they shouldn't give her a pass. I actually am kind
(28:16):
of like, why are you even telling her this right now?
You know, It's just it was a stupid game.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Back to the beginning, when Tameran was when Tamor was decorating,
I was impressed that how much of decorating for her
own party she was doing.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, I'm sure she probably had some help coming in,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Because that that that table looked, that spread looked professionally done.
It looked good. Yeah, but I like the wisteria. I
got a little nervous when they all left the wisteria
hanging over that open flame. I know, yeah, I know,
this is pretty controlled a fire, but I'm still like one,
Gina's just.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
A whoa, I'm on fire.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's a little scary there.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And she left that cake sitting there. I'm like, nobody's
telling you you can't bring your cake. Gina, bring your cake.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She got it, She turned around and got it. We
just gotay.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
By the way, I will also say, I know, producers, editors,
I have been very harsh on you lately. I will
say you shot the cakes well, because I was like, oh,
here we fucking go. This icing's going to be a
shit show for continuity. We're gonna get flowers and an
empty cake and huge flowers and then the half eaten
(29:33):
But no, pro didn't to my knowledge. Yeah, they bought
the cakes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
See jobs. When Heather comes in the kitchen and Tarma's like,
I'm going to bake this and this is the last
time you're gonna see me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And they're not baking.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
By the way, I didn't say that I'm gonna bake
a cake.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Baker's like, what the fucker's bakers?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
What is that? Like, how's that thing?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Go? Baked? Me? Caked cake, baby cakes?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
As fast as you can. I'm gonna roll and do it,
and not the friends that you because you said you
don't trust me, so I'm gonna quet. I say, you're disgusting, right,
no baking, just frosting. And then Heather's like, I'm hurt
(30:24):
by you. You were shit talking my career, So can
we just talk about this, Gina and have anything? And
it's so annoying and Jen getting in here. Y'all, y'alls
don't know what you just pulled up on in this
podcast because we have a lot of improv experience and
comedy experience. Even though we are not funny, we clearly
are being very transparent about that we are not funny,
but like you know, we we said this last week.
(30:47):
We all know that Heather is a trained actress. She's
been on many sitcoms, So for her to like I
just have so many problems with Gina saying all this
and Jen being like I didn't know. These are people
who are completely ignorant, completely ignorant and judgmental for that matter,
and not supportive at all.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And for Gina to be like I was four when
your your sitcoms were on, I'm like you motherfuckers will
go down eighty rabbit holes to find Jeff Timmins' instagram
and watch every clip on that, but you didn't. You've
never watched Heather's right, You've never watched one appearance, like
(31:27):
you've never gone on YouTube once. I don't believe it.
I don't believe this at all. Well.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Also, for someone on the Real Housewives to say that
is not a good look. Like I could see someone
saying that on a vander Pump Rules the reboot or
a younger show saying that to an older person, but
(31:52):
like Gina is not twenty two. So for her to
shade and make an age's comment like that, I just
thought was really classless.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And just not believable. Like if I'm gonna be on
a show with somebody, I'm gonna know everything about them,
even if I didn't know the second I was on
the show. By five years in, I've had a glass
of wine and YouTube them and seen what's going on,
like especially if I'm gonna fight with them or whatever,
like she has seen that. I've said, I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
She didn't take the time. I'm sorry to say, Emily,
she has not taken the time.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I don't believe her.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No one has looked up her IMDb. It's very clear
because these ladies don't care. That doesn't matter to them.
It's that that's why this is so insulting, is that
they don't even respect the industry that creates entertainment actual
not reality, but actual entertainment booth.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So it's like, I mean, most comedians are not funny
and going nuts, Like when you hang out with them
one on one, it's very heather, I mean, chill.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's two people. It's one person who doesn't understand another
person's career and how it works, and that is absolutely acceptable.
But to be so blatantly mean is just rude and
very strange. And I think Heather was like when she
was like I, if anyone was gonna support me, I
would have thought it was Gina, And honestly me too.
(33:28):
I was very shocked with the way that she handled this, Like,
obviously she's in real estate right now, and if someone
were to be like real estate, you know, like I
didn't know you, or I didn't know you built houses,
and it's like, well, it's not building houses, it's selling.
Why did I didn't know that you painted houses and
then tried to sell them, you know, Like it's that
(33:50):
kind of ignorance, that's what she's showing her and like, yeah,
it's just disrespectful. I mean obviously because it's triggering to
me because I'm clearly you've been in the entertainment industry
and I know what it takes now. I think that
it says a lot about Heather, who has gone back
to like the grass roots and the foundation of training
(34:12):
when she doesn't have to. But that's like what you
do when you want to have you know, you want
to get back into a career. You do the heavy
lifting and it's hustle. So I just think that was
very mean, mean spek.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I will say, knowing what I know the few episodes ago,
when we found out that Heather was doing that, I
had a new respect for Heather because what she is
doing is like truly going back to the basics and
back putting herself, like she said in a class with
twenty two year olds, Like it's just like very I
(34:47):
respect it because it shows that, like, yeah, she probably
could buy private Obviously, she could buy private lessons or
whatever she wanted to do and pay improvisers to come
over so she doesn't have to do this in a
mak a public setting or something. But she doing the work.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
When Gina said, I didn't know you were a comedian, Heather,
I just didn't don't really find you that funny. I mean,
I understand her point that like when Heather's around, it's
not like she's yuck yucking around.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Most comics are, but I mean they're so chill.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I think that Gina's point. I understand Gina's point,
but to take it further, it's like she's not a
stand up and she's not an improviser she's using. She's
learning those skills so that she can do comedic acting
and be better at timing when she's an actor. That's
what needed to be explained to Gina. You don't have
(35:40):
to be a professional in that field or a funny
person in order to try to attain those skills. It's
just very weird. I was very disappointed about that. Yeah,
she's quitting. Tama's quitting. And Heather really gives it right
back to her and she's like, this is a great
example of why you don't you know why this is
(36:02):
like I don't trust you. She's like, you are doing this,
You're constantly quitting. I mean, I mean, oh god, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But it helped because it's not like I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong, But it's not like Tamara does
this all the time. She does this is like the
first season. I can remember where she's saying I'm quitting,
I'm quitting, I'm quitting over and over again. I don't actually.
I mean, people get push to the brink and it's
usually in the finale or something like that, but this
(36:35):
has been a lot. Or at the reunions or they'll
they'll do a walk off, but like this is a
little this is I'm enjoying Tamra's quitting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, it's fun even though it's yeah really she did
it a long time ago, but it yeah, you know
that was on a cast trip and she ran away
and she was like, you'll never see my face again.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And that was.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
But like she didn't say quit, she just said you'll
ever see my face again.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, but it's not it's not like recurring enough that
it's annoying. Right now, I'm like, oh, this is fun,
this feels free.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, she's on the edge, you know, and it's very clear,
and they don't care that she's on the edge, so
they're more interested in playing their cards right on this show.
Like how there's like I've got to stand up to
Tamra this season or else the jig is up, Like
I have to show that I stand up to her.
(37:30):
Emily's like I have to show that I'm being transparent
and that I'm not being two faced when I'm with Tamra.
Like everyone has to step up and say with that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It's annoying me. I think you nailed it, Amy, That's
what's annoying me about this season. That's like when Emily
comes in on business right away to be like, this
is what was said. It's everybody playing their cards right
and it feels that way, and it doesn't feel like
there's an absorbing of a good time or anything exce
stept for Okay, I got to do this right right now.
(38:03):
Business business, So yeah, and that's why maybe things are
pivoting so fast, Whereas in Salt Lake, I don't get
that vibe as hard. I feel like people are just
like I know, I'm gonna fucking say it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I'll take you down. Everyone wants to take everybody down.
Yes that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, whereas this was just like, oh, check now, how
the needs to confront Gina?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Check Like that's like, oh you want to talk about this,
let's go out here, Okay, we're going to make up.
And I know that it's a you know, people say
it's about like moving forward, and Tamra says that, like
it's about having issues and then moving on from it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
But I do feel like Shannon is feeling very organic
this season and usually does.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
To me like, yeah, she's not really involved in anything
right now, she's just feeling real. I did you see
how she did you see how she just is eviscerating
everybody when she was kay eye, Yeah she gets upset.
She's just sitting back and pack my pants.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I got my role on with pants. Yeah, she just
feels even though she's not, I need her because even
though she's not jumping in like on schedule, she's real
and I need that because some of this is not.
It all feels real. It's just like you said, it's
like I gotta do this. This is now on my checklist,
(39:32):
my to do list at this event is ABC.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right right, Yeah, Shannon's just chilling in the back going
like there she goes. That's why I'm not friends with her.
That's why it is weird how she's just there and
like they're just not really friends, they're just you know,
they're okay. Eddie was like, hey is Shannon. Kevin can't
wait to see her? You know. It's so funny. Well,
(39:56):
interesting episode, and we'll see if Tarmor's gonna sho up
next week.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We already know she does, because she does sit down
with Katie. Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Maybe it's off camera, maybe it's off She hooked. She
hooked up with Julia in the Hamptons and the ninety
eight degrees. Guy's wife was also there, so it's got all.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
The audio of all the hookups, no visual, just audio.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, oh my god. It's like works for NPR, just
carries around like a little.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Killing in for Terry Gross's week on Fresh Air, and
it's just audio of housewives fucking. I'm in for Terry Gross.
We're gonna be interviewing the guy that audio taped camera
(40:56):
fucking in the Hamptons.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Hello, guy tape camera in the booth fucking Hey huh, Dauria,
great to be here, Great to be here. So when
you were in that booth, did you think you were
going to be filming or did you always know it
was going to be audio.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's a good question, slid. I My medium is audio,
so I always knew if someone was going to get
a visual, since I was a child, I knew, like
somebody else get the visual, what I'm going to do
is I'm going to get vocal and I'm going to
lay down the tracks and I'm gonna layer it. So
you know, it was like a no brainer for me.
(41:37):
As soon as Tama pulled her pants down, I was like,
turn the microphone so on, turn the cameras off. I'm
not the guy for that.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, when you were a child, did you ever have
a premonition of your success and that it would lead
you to being a boy band and then ultimately fuck
a housewife? Great question in a booth.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Say that is a great question. I don't even know
how I can answer it.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, that's our time. Thank you so much for this
rivening interview with the guy who audio taped camera fucking
in an audio booth.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Thank you. I was next week promotional tour for my
voice memos. Well, we wanted slave. Everybody said we want
Slade back so bad we need Slade back. Everybody demanded it.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Everybody said they wanted Gretchen and Slade. They did, they.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Recorded it, they posted it.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All right, guys, Well, I hope you enjoyed your spring fling.
We did what we could do. We did what we did.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You know it wasn't a fall frown.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
What come on now, you guys have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Are the Net this weekend?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I love to see Net
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