October 24, 2025 • 60 mins
Join us on this episode of Drama Darling as Amy Phillips welcomes Emily Dorezas and Deanna Cheng. The trio dives into topics, including insights on 'Wife Swap' and the 'Real Housewives of Orange County.' They tackle Peacock streaming issues, Shannon's chaotic mishaps, and Gretchen's turbulent return to the Housewives scene. The conversation also explores the appeal of living off the grid, drama surrounding Jen's bridal shower, and heated debates about jacuzzi boats. Plus, a tantalizing cliffhanger about new Housewives rumors. Don’t miss out on the drama, laughter, and intriguing insights!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome in to one in all Darlings. It's a gorgeous
California Friday. Here with two California Darlings, Emily Dresas and
Deanna Chang. Ladies, thanks for joining today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh my gosh, thanks for having guys.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thank you, sister, Deanna, sister, are so happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes, I'm so excited that they're doing a Netflix documentary
on our sister wifehood and how twisted and it is
so Welcome to our Sister Wives podcast. Today we're going
to be talking about white Swap great, yes, and we
know a lot about that because we are your wives.
And we're also going to be talking about the Real
(01:03):
Housewives of Orange County the penultimate episode of the season,
not including the reunions.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Emily, I saw her look at me well, including to
watch What Happens Lives, you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Know, because they're lay there.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I want to flip a goddamn table.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I got one person like this, Okay, I will to
be a little bit of a devil's advocate, you know,
because I you know what, I got my start on
watching has Lives, so I have their back. Okay, Yeah,
but also I've noticed, yes, people move for the most part,
don't like it, but then guess what happens? They're like,
(01:48):
I was forced to watch, so I only watched the
first like ten fifteen minutes, and you know what so
and so said, and so they get a little tea.
So you know, but I hear you, I hear you
watch What Happens Live? You know, do do we hear them?
Maybe they need to get those streams. And what if
if they don't get those streams, they get canceled?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, Devil's Advocate, I did, I know what you're talking about.
And guess what happened to me? It went straight to
an old episode of Watch What Happens?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I didn't. You can get the Shannon Garcella. I had
to watch that raw like go away and get it.
Like you're saying, like it if it skips through it?
Are you saying in Peacock? Is that what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
About at the end of the Orange County episode example,
it'll roll into it. But I see what you're saying
when you're like, continue watching it goes it skips the
episode and goes to watch What Happens Live? Is that
what you're saying, no.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I watched see No. I think so Nycock must have
messed up. Okay, but it auto automatically went to like
tam uh I automatically went to a Miami episode of
Watch What Happens and I was like.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Wait, yeah, well that's that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was putting my makeup on it, and I was
like I actually could and it was like over here,
and it's like, wait a second. I know for a
fact Shannon and Garcel were on lastning what is going on?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I see it's skipped to a completely random episode after
the Orange County.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And this could still be part of the AWS meltdown.
We had a few days ago and.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was I think it was, but Watch what Happens Live?
I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Here's may I make a pitch, sorry just once, let
me just say this. They can have it. We go
to Peacock. We march ourselves over to Peacock to watch
our programs. We go to Real house Eves of Orange County.
You can have it. I'll give you this. You can
have it in the queue chronologically, but do not call
(03:51):
it episode five of Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Of you know what? But is that what they're doing?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yes, yes, now you're making me wonder if that's what
they're doing. But yes, no, it's it's called Watch what
Happens Live. But it's like the next it's they're considering
it an episode of that series.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All right, I just checked you guys. Yes, they are
titling Watch what Happens to Live episodes as Orange County episodes.
And that's what I'm looking at right now. That is confusing. Okay,
fair enough, all right, Air, your grievance is because we
need to move on what Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm just thinking, like I have a friend of the show,
Jessica Joy, who binge watches full seasons to fall asleep to,
including reunions. She can sleep to them. So now are
I have a doctor having to sit through Watch what
Happens Old? Watch what Happens? Which is fine, it's a
(04:53):
great show. I'm just saying, when you are ready to
get through the Housewives app we'll have to ask them.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
There's has to be like, yes, I think they could
slot them in there if they had to, because it's
benefiting the Watch What Happens Live, But to name it
an additional episode of the series is not of the
lord and they need to But I don't, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think it's a digital programming issue. They probably cannot
slot that in there after the episode unless they categorize
it under the chat underneath the episode numbers, or else
it wouldn't be allowed to be in there. And I
think they're experimenting with the platform because at the end
of the day, it's an extension of what you just saw.
(05:41):
You're getting interviews with the people who were just on
that episode. And now that that just means when I'm
talking about going right into that the most current watch
it happens live, Emily, we're discontinuing whatever happened in your
glitchy peacock that day and.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Just say dim over that, yes, forget aws.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So I think that they they if they're going to
sort it out, they either needed to have it in
there or have it completely out of there, because I
don't think programming would allow it, you know, from a
digital perspective, is what I'm trying to say. What would
Bo's say. You know, she's the marketing genius. What does
she have to say about it? Let's head on over
(06:24):
to Jimmy Fallon, you know, and see their show branding.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I watched the first episode is pretty good and.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Did watch What Happens Live episode just circle, just like
go right into that one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Branding is now the thirty ninth episode of the season
of Real Housewives Never really Knows.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeh, all right, well, none of our Orange County episodes
rolled into Wife Swap. We had to go there on
our own, of our own volition, and as a matter
of fact, we did, and we all watched the first
episode of Wife Swap, which was upper show and she's
swapping on me.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That's off the crude.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
An announcement.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's talk about this wife Swap episode before we get
into Orange County. All right, well, I mean listen, I
thought it was really cute, really sweet, definitely the same
formula as the original Non Housewives version. And you know,
everybody learns a lesson by the end, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Except for expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you don't think she.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
She actively didn't learn a lesson.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
She tried to, like say, it's really hard with those
cameras around.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But that's not the lesson. That wasn't really.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What what would be the lesson to go out on
the town more? I think was the idea.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Get great point. I don't like how she she showed
up at Angie's house, and she basically had to do
the same thing that she already does.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's true, but she got to use more chemicals to
do that and more like like appliances. Right, So it
probably felt like half the work.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I suspect Lindsay and I don't think we're ahead of
ourselves here, but I there's an there's something, there's an
anger running through Lindsay that is like she couldn't let
herself be like, you know what, all she had to
do to settle me down was go taking a hot
(08:41):
shower felt amazing. Let's get real, babe, bib. You know,
she was so up her own ass about being off
the grid that she couldn't give it to us and
I and and you know what, you enjoyed it, honey,
you know you did, like just be like, you know what,
(09:03):
it was nice, It felt good. It was I actually
got a layer of dirt off that's been there for
the last three years.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, Like because when they were trying to camp outside,
you know, she wasn't the first one running into the
tent with a dog piss on it. Like that definitely
bothered her. She was like, I don't want to sleep
in there.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Right, Yeah, so none of them slept outside.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, so they tried to and then they were like, no,
we're not doing it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah yeah, so like they even she.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Was like, I didn't want to do it because we
didn't have padding. So you know, at that point, go
a little further like what you're saying. So what I
did was I took a steam and it felt really good,
and then I got into this you know bed that
had more layers than the princess and the pea. And
it was weird to me that she went there and
(09:51):
was like we're gonna gut a fish, We're going to
do all these things, and not as much like they
weren't like, oh, we're gonna go and do more more
things that we normally do. We're gonna go shopping. I mean,
I know she got her hair done. That was nice.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
She hated guys. I love Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I like style, get out there and we get out there,
get on the grid.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Ye off the grid. I'm super cool. I actually really did.
I love first of all, like I when you see Amy,
when you were like, well, this is what we're going
over today to start up a new show, you know,
the way I have to make my way over to
(10:35):
that platform and just it's so hard for me because
I just have a resistance to the new thing.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Because I do too.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, it's just like but I feel like I have
to go off the grid to get on the grid,
to get over there.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Nice, Nice. I love this show and I thought it
was absolutely adorable and fun and I enjoyed the whole
goddamn thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Wow, So it's it's a I think they did a
great job producing it. It felt like the right amount
of time. I liked that we weren't there for a week,
two weeks. I like that it out.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Here's a little tidbit. I don't know if you saw this,
but it was spoken about I don't know where. I'm sorry,
I can't keep credit, but Melissa Gorga, who was also
going to be on this show, she basically negotiated for
all the housewives to have security in the house while
(11:47):
they slept there because they didn't plan that at all.
They were going to have these housewives sleep in these
strangers' homes and like leave them there, like the crew
would leave them there, everybody would leave. I think that
that's potential, very scary personally. I know, a background check
can go can only go a certain certain ways, and
(12:07):
how weird would you feel? I mean, anything is possible. Also,
a stranger in your home with your kids. I don't know.
It's just very bizarre. And I think that she was
smart in this day and age to do something like
that because they didn't consider that. And so when she
was like, I'm not doing this unless we have security,
(12:28):
they agreed and then everybody got security, and I thought
that was good on Melissa.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's really smart. I wouldn't have thought of it either, honestly, same,
I just would not have thought of it because it's
like they didn't probably have that in the original wife swap,
like we're only you know, we're cameras down only for
a few hours. What's the like. I just wouldn't have even.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Run out of it, I know. And that's when the
Netflix documentary starts about the time when they did a
wife swap with the housewives, you know, and that's not
what we want.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So also just in terms of like taking liability off
of Melissa's shoulders or any of them, should the hosts
say she did this or this at night or something
like that, and there's no coverage of it because they
didn't you know, you know, I just think that's really good,
just to have a witness there that's out of the
(13:17):
just kind of in the background.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So Emily really loves the idea of living off the grid.
I don't, and this definitely proved it. I like plumbing.
I love plumbing. I'm all I'm here for it, here
for the plumbing, and I appreciate what they're doing on
a certain level. I'm also wondering how the hell they
(13:43):
found them, because if they don't really watch TV, I mean,
how in the world would they have discovered them. It's
just bizarre. Emily, what draws you to the off grid lifestyle?
And then why are you living in Los Angeles, one
of the most populated cities. I likery.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I like a high grid and a no grid. I
can do either what but but I will say there's
something like when you when you think about all the
shit you got to think about in a day to
be on the grid, sometimes it's nice to think about, like,
oh my gosh, all I gotta do is carry water
up a hill. Done. I would love that, and it's
(14:20):
you know, you don't have to worry about anything else.
Just get that water up the hill. That's That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, So you would be fine soaking in that tub
in the middle of the absolutely and Deanna liked it.
You liked that, Danna?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, I like the tub. I did like the tub.
I was like, I don't know what Andrew's gonna do
butt naked out here with all these chillen running around,
and you know, I know that mister Tanner is going
to get a peaksy out the window.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But he wanted it disappointed honestly, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They had a chemistry. But yes, I would enjoy the tub.
I would. I didn't look at that tub and turn
my nose down. I said, that looks fun to be,
you know, titties free out in a time.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But also they lived really close to the hot spring.
That's where Angie got like, yeah, that looked great, Like yeah,
there's a lot of cool gangs around.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
There, yes, and a great bar where they could go
and do drinks. Yeah, gorgeous. Utah, did anybody get Idaho?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh? Sor it was Challice Idaho? Wait? What was it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Chow?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I wrote it down?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, she wrote it down. She has she has it
pinned on her maps. Emily will be heading there over
the holiday break.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh yeah, track me until my phone goes dead.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Did anybody else get total Overboard vibes from Angie being
at that house? I am talking Goldie han Kurt Russell
at the very end when she's driving away in the
car and she's waving out the window and he's like,
look at her, go I love her, and the kids
(16:02):
are like, Dad, don't say that. Like even the raspy
voices reminded me of the actors on Overboard. It was
like he's falling in love with her. They're out at
this bar, she's kind of you know, in the bar,
loosening up, doing shots off the ground. I mean it
was Goldiehawn and Kurt Russell and Tanner. I mean, you know,
(16:25):
we like to see people get emotional. But he got
a little too emotional for my taste. Oh what it
was weird?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Great.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He wanted he wanted, he wanted something more from Angie,
and I think that he thought this was going to
be like a wife swap eve, you know what I mean,
Like he's in the bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Swap well, Tanner is there. Tanner's off the grid with
Lindsay because of Lindsay's rheumatoid arthritis, that's what motivated this.
And so when also when she's like, I went to
the doctor and it was diagnosed, and all they wanted
to do was give me a pill. And I was like, yeah,
because you're going to tell you about off the grid.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's like, okay, it's like, bad news is you have
rheumati arthritis. Good news is if you want to work
with it and and sort of get it sold, you
can cut like kill your own ox and just you know,
get to chopping and then without seasoning, cook it in
(17:27):
the wild and not. That's actually sort of what we
tend to tell our patients.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's like bacond option.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
There's also a pill, but I would I'm not going
to tell you to do that. Yeah, It's is much easier.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right because your pharmacy is too far. So just do this,
you know, Right, those kids gnawing on that ox tail,
I gotta say respect, you know, to say respect like crazy.
And also the little girl.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Was so hazel, so cute.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
My god, I'm so affectionate and sweet and I loved it.
And I think it's partially because she's just a sweetie. Also,
no one's around, she's so one grateful to see someone else.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You know, she's like another human being, a pretty human
being who's's nice.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, like a princess that has arrived.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, right right, truly she looks you know to see.
First of all, thank you producers. I know someone produced
that mannequin with her hat, her cowboy hat. That's that
the head that she used to keep the hat shape
when she walked in. That was so that visual was
(18:39):
so excellent. But you know, ang I, I don't necessarily
always know what to do with her as a as
a housewife. I like her, but she almost seems ai
to me most of the times, Like I don't know
when she's real. I'm like, is this real? Is this
(18:59):
how you are?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Ye were?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I can't like make throw dors.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I'm gonna throw this horse right now. I'm so many.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
She was a bully tanner, but she was so charming
in this and yeah lovely and I loved seeing her
like be like, you know what, let me get comfortable
and correctly dressed, ish and just lose her makeup and
(19:30):
it was delightful.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, her showing up at the end with a with
a fresh raw face, maybe a little bit of lip.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh did you see that she had the flake set's
the family over to her house for to watch it
with them, so she had them travel too.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Did you see that and watching What Happens Live?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I saw it on episode forty three of Salt Lake City,
which was just a Angie's Instagram.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's nodded in making us in all these other wormholes. Yeah,
to a gofund me re.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Association in the Peacock gap right right, and then you
get the show Angie, which is weird from the seventies,
but it's all there like we Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But it's Angie Harmon's Best of.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Angie's List, which is a Los Angeles non profit.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's so cool that they're letting high ass Gina do
the programming on Peacock. That's what's happened right now. Yeah,
with some edible it's like, you know what we should do,
just put everything into the app. Okay, is there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Anything else we want to talk about this episode? Oh?
Mary came in.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Mary was great, fabulous.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Look at us sister wives finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Mary was great.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It did not work, Okay, Mary was fabulous, yabulous, We
got it. I don't know, Okay, So Mary was great.
She of course is the perfect literal fish out of
(21:30):
water situation with her coming in and seeing the gutted fish,
and so no, is this what we're doing? Oh no?
And that was fun?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, aren't you guys a little concerned like we
should all kind of know how to live off the
grid for a couple of days, right? Yeah? I Mary's sake,
and everybody's sick. I'm like, well, like kind of like.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Mary, maybe pay attention a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, and and anyone's perhaps somebody who is living
high end on the grid, like the housewives, or anyone
who's wealthy and just loves the perks of life, life
and they can't get along without it, without their knock
on the dishwasher, dishwasher, and them quite frankly weird, just
too far. But anyway, they may say to themselves and
(22:18):
to others, if I can't live the way I want
to live, I don't want to live at all, And
so I don't need to learn that put me out,
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, very dark, Okay, but I appreciate that, Amy, because
if we get to a point with like a zombie apocalypse,
it's walking dead style, I'm gonna be hitting those homes
up first to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Get smart supplies smart Yeah, okay, right, but I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You know, survival skills I think should be taught in schools,
not just if you're you join like the Scouts of America.
I also think a lot more should be taught in schools,
you know, health wise, you know, things of that nature,
more street sense, tips for living, self defense, things like that.
(23:09):
I really do think that there should be more of
a model and a structure for that in our schools.
Thank you for listening to this, Thank you for you,
Thank you. That a nice emotional ending where they got
together and Angie's like, I just felt bad that I
had bad thoughts about you and your family living off
the grid. That I was like, these people were fucking crazy,
and I was like, I can't believe I just thought that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then I also thought like, why her husband is
so undertrapped if I could never be around him for real?
And then I felt bad that I thought that, And
then I thought, Wow, this place is a shit hole,
and I thought, oh, I'm so sorry I thought that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And then.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
All right, well, why don't we move on to Orange County?
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Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
As it turns out, Deanna was having some technical issues.
She as I don't know if you guys could hear it,
but there were times when she was going in and out,
and you know, ironically, it turns out that Deanna is
actually off the grid, and she was trying to connect
with us off the grid. Well, Emily, does that work.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm jealous of Deanna. She's having she's living with the
flakes now, she's hauling water up with Tanner. Actually tannered
in all.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Shit, No he didn't. And and by the way, we
failed to mention how absolutely ripped.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Lindsay's ripped, ripped, and Tanner, I don't understand how he
is also not ripped. But then point, what did.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Your Shay get your shit together? Tanner? Oh? I said,
we didn't know what he looked like before they went
off the grid. Maybe it was worse I was.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Talking about when you were like, because she's doing all
the work. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I did say that, thank you. Yeah, she's doing all
the work. He's sitting on his ass in that tub
waiting for Angie to come. Got my eyes on you, Tanner, Yep,
all right. Well, so Diana had to go, and so
I apologize she had to go check on the chicken,
(31:26):
and so she will not be joining us for the
Orange County recap. That brings us to the Orange County Recap.
And let's see what happened over there.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's the morning after Shannon was stoned out of her mind,
and we get right back into one shoe. Shannon in
the lobby completely basically still high from the night before.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, and I was looking forward to Shannon maybe having
this sober California lifestyle where she would not drink as
much but like do edibles. But I don't think Shannon
can handle it because they don't go through her system
that quickly. And she had like an eyepatch in her hair,
and like, what is worse? What is worse? She put
(32:12):
lipstick on her eyelids. Everything is coming up, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's wild, you know, because like if she didn't go
as hard, she probably would have had a great experience.
Maybe she's you know, maybe later on she felt it
was a great experience. But wow, she did, you know,
she went in to the deep end.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I will say on watch what happens. She said that
she will partake again on special occasions. Oh okay. Then
she railed on Earle Love Hotel. Well that yeah, there
was this moment where she was just like, you better
stop posting pictures of me if we're done, And Andy's
(32:52):
like what Also, Shannon didn't know what a dilf was.
It was fun. Yeah, everything was great.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's always great. I have spanks, I love spanks. I
wears my shoe.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
She talked about that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
She did okay, well, when they went to the see
the tulips, they were doing like microdosing mushrooms if you will,
We're going to see the tulips in all of their glory.
So it was really basically like Gina and Heather who
just did that? No one else did. Yeah, that's right.
(33:25):
I wish everybody would have done that. You know, Shannon
didn't need it, didn't need it, Like she's.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Already gonna amount a plastic horse out of like being
crazy on camera. But this made me very nervous. This,
I asked, Shannon trying to mount that horse. Yeah, but
the three of them together, when when Heather and Gina
look over and see like, yeah, horsemen, Yeah, the three horseheads,
(33:57):
horsemen of the horse Women of the Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I loved three or Housewives of the Apocalypse, the three Horsewives.
That's really funny. But on the way there the sprinter van,
you know, Tamara and Gina and Emily are talking about
how Gretchen, like the night before, is creeping around Tamaran.
(34:21):
I'm like, she's just trying to be part of the group.
You know, this is sort of after filming and they're
at the hotel bar and there's high jinks. I think
Gretchen is trying to look for an opportunity maybe an
organic opportunity to be having fun. I suppose, I don't know.
I didn't mind her being there. I mean they're kind
of sort of were mean girling, like why is she
(34:43):
even there. It's like, well, she's part of the cast,
you guys. She wants to unwind at the bar and
see if anything something can happen. I was trying to
give her the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, because really at that point I think that they
must if you notice, they really we like just went
straight into like that footage, and I'm just like, well,
that's just Tamra being a loud assd If Gretchen was
like trying to be a part of that, it would
not have been welcomed. It was like the Tamara Show.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There was no room for her to jump in on
any of that, so she had to just sit there. Yeah,
unless she was, like I mean, you know, if she
was really going to go all the way, she could
have just been chuckling along or come a little closer.
The fact that she wasn't near them was what was
weird about it. You know, she was like a stranger
at the bar.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, And I guess, like to that whole point, like
I do think she's probably on the periphery a lot.
And honestly, that's I know we're getting there, but I
that's why I thought she was maybe like really upset
because she was exhausting to be like, where's my entrance.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I also think this whole episode, you know, with her
crying and stuff like that, honestly think it had I saw,
like Gina, I honestly think you to do with jit leg.
I think she was jet lagged. That's exactly why I
think she was acting like that. Okay, totally, yeah, Yeah,
I don't think it was used to that. All the
other housewives, you know, they'y pretty you know, used to
(36:11):
traveling at this rate, you know, so their bodies can
acclimate faster. Gretchen has been out of the loop. She's
been home, she's doing influencing, you know, all her work
has been at home. So she was thrown for a
freaking loop with that jet lag. And we all know
what that feels like, we all do, all of us
(36:32):
jet setters anyhow. And then Tara was like, it's nervous
about just just nerves us something coming her way. It's
nervous about just nervous and yeah, and then we get
into like Jen and Gina's really talking about Jen and
how she's basically fake and she's whoever her friends want
(36:56):
her to be. And I find this to be interesting
because this episode really did unravel a lot of kind
of like who Jen is. I mean, it was the
same situation that we never saw the other side of,
like with Katie and Gretchen, where it's like Jen is
saying what are you doing right now? Like what are
you saying? I did not do that. I did not
(37:18):
say that. But in this case, we actually got a
flashback of Jen saying, yeah, I don't know why she's
helding this bridal shower for me, Like that's very strange.
So Jen, you're caught. You're caught. You're caught.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You're caught. But I'm also like, Geina, what is this?
What is this party you're pitching to? Shannon? Travis and
I were fighting Perry here where was my party? Because
we're in a good spot.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean it's like a castle roll, you know, she
wants a party. But I was like, well, I mean
Jen's getting married, it's an event. It So I agree
with you. This pitch does not make sense. It's very
much which where's my cast?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Role.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know, but to Jen's point in this, I
see how it's totally bizarre that this party turned into
a bridal shower a day before. Yes, that makes no sense,
totally fine to call that out. Yeah, part of me
is like, well, I get it that, it's like ridiculous
that it turned into that. So then it's like, Gina,
(38:26):
why are you bringing this up? As if she's saying
this is the stupidest thing. I think Jen was saying.
Production was not.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, but Jen was wrong. I mean Jen was wrong
to deny that she didn't have a problem with it. Now,
I will say I did watch the after show and
Jen really leans into like what we already know because
she said it, but like about how this is a
lot of the marriage's gonna is triggering because she's been
divorced and she's still dealing with all that, so to
celebrate it in this way was like off putting. But
(38:59):
she was very grateful for Shannon to do this. Got
it Okay, But that is not what she said to Gina.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's not. No, it's definitely not and that's her sort
of like not backpalet pedaling, But she definitely explained it better.
It just it just makes her look like a liar.
And it's the same wording, do you know what I'm saying,
just as Gretchen uses I misspoke several times when we
find that to be off putting because we were like,
that's just lying. Now Jen is always deflecting and putting
(39:30):
it back, like what are you doing? I don't know
what you're talking about? When it's like did you message
eight degrees? Wife? I don't know, like yeah, yeah or not?
Did you message?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Did you follow?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I don't know, you know the whole thing. Did you
follow a degrees guy? Did you? Did you? And Katie,
you know, hear what Gretchen said at this dinner. I
don't know what you're talking about. It's giving your liar face.
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Okay, you said that also like Gina the Tony just said,
it's the problem. That's kind of also how Gina was
talking high I don't even know something, I have a question,
like it was like the soft gentle tones.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Adult Gina, right, So it really muted a lot of
her tulip colors, and yet didn't because she wouldn't stop talking.
It just was a different level.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, and oh my god, seeing Emily it's just like
at her limit.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Shot, will you shut the fuck up? I do like
a friendship where someone can actually say can you please
shut the fuck up? And it pretty times seriously, Yes.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I get it. Yeah, no, I get it many times
and then scream and then Gina's like, that's I got
the note. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
There's like, let's play the quiet game. That Tulip Garden
or whatever you call it looked so cool it made
me want to go there so bad. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
No, I know, so pretty what Gina miss here like
everything's going to die? What everything's dying? Well, it's seasonal Ah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Heatherre's like, is this tulip outline? And they like put
a face on it. I do. I wanted more of that,
the tripping out kind of situation. I I absolutely loved it.
So yeah. They were talking about that in the Sprinner
van about Jen is whoever her friends want her to be,
and we got into the save the date thing. What
were you saying?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh I?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Because it also is all coupled in. The Jen and
Shannon thing is also coupled in with the Alexis and
Jen being friends with her and and how dare Shannon
say anything? And I don't get I can't get there
with everybody. I stay with Shannon on that Shannon went
through hell. And if you watch that and you don't
(42:07):
see that as a warning for yourself, I don't. And
I get that Shannon was not blameless, but my gosh, yeah,
I would not want to be friends with those people.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Absolutely, and camera shouldn't either, considering yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yes, yeah, I don't think. Here's the semantics. I don't
think Shannon's ever going to say I will be friends
with you if you're friends with them. But it is
a good personality.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Indicator because I'm I can't trust you.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I mean, yeah, I don't have to be friends with
you just because you're friends with them, And that's a
pretty big red line for me.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
There was a lot of confusion, and I'd like to
apologize for last week when I said that Jen received
a wedding invitation to Alexis and and Johnny jay Is wedding,
that she was invited, that wasn't true. She only got
a save the date, and so at that point we're
sort of seeing what happen now, which is she got
(43:13):
to save the date, she decided not to go right
because she's friends with Shannon. So she must have told
that to Alexis, I don't feel comfortable going, and that
is why she didn't get the wedding invitation. But then,
didn't you say something like Shannon said and watch What
Happens Live, that Alexis gave Jen a wedding invitation the
(43:36):
day of her wedding or how would that have even happened?
Did she text her the day of her wedding?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I bet who has time for that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
It is the worst move to make if you're on
the fence about inviting somebody. I just think that was
so weird. I think it was so weird. And the
source on the gen didn't get an invitation is Alexis,
and I to your point, I think that's exactly how
it laid out. I think Jen made the choice not
to be invited. I think she said thank you, but
(44:06):
out of respect to Shannon, I'm making all this up.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, but I think you're that's I'm on that same page.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, yeah, And I think then Alexis I could turn
on her heel and be like, well, I didn't even
send her an invitation, right right? But then to Shannon,
according to Shannon that the.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Day of that makes you sense, That makes no sense. Yeah,
I don't know, Well you don't and neither do I,
and so I guess we just leave it here. So
that's weird. You know, there was some confusion with the
ladies that Shannon told her not to go, and Shannon's like,
I said, no such thing. So I did appreciate them
(44:47):
clearing that up, and that we know that Shannon wasn't like,
don't go, because that was that was a fight that
all the other ladies were looking to have at that
table on this trip, and it was like, gals, I
know that you're looking for something through these tulips to
fight about, but that's not it. So they moved on, yep.
(45:08):
And then that's when the whole thing happened about Jen,
you know, talking about being honest with Shannon, like you
even said that you had to take time out of
your data faster this fake friend sheep. That's weird. I mean,
Gina is like not afraid to take all the shit
(45:31):
from off camera that Jenna said and just throw it
on the table, not afraid at all.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, and is very uninhibited right now and getting and
the thing is she's not getting everything correct, and she's
people like so anything she said there, Shannon's almost believing,
but then like remembering that Gina is very high, so
she's like, I don't know where to land on this.
(45:57):
Shannon doesn't understand how this works. It's not like drinking
where you might like run your mouth and say too
much or whatever. But like Channon, shit, I don't think
any of it like really landed with her.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It must way I have, because they had a great
time at dinner.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, exactly, and they and to your point, all of
the other gals are like, oh man, we set that table,
now they are falling through it to.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Like and like just random TikTok dances. I don't know
what was going on, but it was really funny and
I really enjoyed it and I like them together, so
good on them. It's been a bumpy road, but I'm
happy that we're not getting fully stuck there because it's
just not worth being invested in. So yeah, what's worth
(46:45):
being invested in is jet Leg Gretchen. And before we
get into the jacuzzi boats, I want to mention that
she has h six businesses. She's a she's a very
big influencer. I mean that is like her job. I
think she makes a lot of great money. I think
she's done a really nice job for herself at setting
up a career as an influencer. So many housewives of
(47:08):
yesteryear have gone on to not be able to you know,
execute or take advantage of their platform in a way
that branches out in a completely different area where they're
just doing products, you know. And I think she's done
a really nice job at that and has been for
such a long time. So it is shocking for her
to be back on the show because she kind of
(47:28):
escapes the web. So I feel like being back on
the show is I don't know if that's gonna I'm
sure it'll help her business. I mean, what am I nuts?
But it's not helping her one bit. These jacuzzie boats,
where do you stand on these?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
You and I both hate hot ups. I don't want
to be in it, and I don't want to be
in the jacuzzie boat. Just put me in a boat.
I don't need to be in this.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Sit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
What I liked was what they did once they got in,
which is just putting their feet in and they sat
on the ledge.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, you know, I am sure if I like jacuzzi's,
it would be a much different story and it would
be amazing. I just didn't like, I don't want it
to me. What it looked like was let's all get
in a hot ass bath together. I don't want to
do that, especially with like like Channon's foot.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well she did put it outside of a jacuzzi, so
good on her.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I want to say when it comes to jacuzzi's, Emily,
let's say you have a jacuzzi okay, mm hmm, and
very few people go in it. I come over. I
would feel comfortable in your jacuzzi. And if that was
the situation at my house, would you feel comfortable in
(48:50):
my jacuzzi? Or still? No?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh god that hurts. That hurts a little bit. It
hurts a little Not gonna lie, hurts a lot. I
just think it's like a brand new and I have
people coming and cleaning it, and like it's just capt
up to the nine in terms of cleanliness.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Below deck style where they drain it and refill it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Oh, like no, clean it, no.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Because I would do that, But the second I'm not
getting back.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
It's a waste of water. Emily, what are you gonna do?
I tell Grid.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's what I'm saying, get in the hot spring that
I'll do running water natural.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
In a hot spring with Would you get into a
hot spring with other people?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yes, of course and have done it many times.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Well, I'm gonna have to talk to you about that
for a second. How would you get into a hot
spring when there's no chlorine in it? That seems more
dangerous and like you're getting exposed to more things when
you're getting into a hot spring with strangers or other people,
as opposed to a jacuzie, it actually has anti bacterial
(50:00):
fighting agents that will protect you from the likes of
someone's std.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Hot springs have running water through them, so it's all
it's circulating constantly, and I look, you enjoyed that chlorine,
my friend, I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
If your problem is if your problem is germs, is.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
It, it's it's a lot of it's a it's a
Petri dish. I just I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I feel the same way. But I'm trying to tell
you I wouldn't get into a hot spring with strangers.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Something happens in my head when it's a heated pool.
I hate that. When it's uh, there's just something about
a man made heat water thing where I'm like, I
don't want.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
This a man made heat. Okay, yeah, drilling down, I'm
getting I'm hearing what you're saying. I still think it's
peculiar that you would get into a hot spring with strangers.
Though those two things don't line up for me. I
think you're gonna need to look inward. But it's I
see you and I now now I will go in
(51:12):
your jacuzzie, but I wouldn't go into a hot spring.
You would not with other people like strangers, that with strangers,
with strangers, but you would, and you wouldn't come into
my private jacuzzie where it doesn't have lots of strangers.
But you will go into a hot spring with strangers.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, great, all.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right, but that's where we slid out. That's where we
slid off. Okay, in the hot spring, all right, we
will get into everyone's like mom and dad are fighting again.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I'm asleep. But what is hot springs? What is chacuzzi?
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Why are I would love to hear about how you
guys feel.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
You know that is true? Yeah, and let me tell
you I know I am odd man out, Like I
get it. Everybody loves a hot tub. I am here
to say, I am weird.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I get it as am I by not wanting to
go in it with a bunch of people. Last time
I was on vacation, don't remember where. I think it
was Palm Springs. Yeah, it was Palm Springs, and all
my friends jumped into this hot this jacuzzie with a
bunch of strangers that had been sitting there for god
(52:29):
knows how long drinking, and I was like, you're sitting
in hot piss. God bless see you back at the room. Yep,
all right. So we got them in these boats and
Shannon was just like, I grew up on boats. I
grew up on boats. I'm a boater. I'm a boater. Crash,
excuse me, sir. I died when she was like does
(52:52):
that boat say Janson? And it did?
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yes. Yeah. I was like, don't hit it. Like there
was a moment where she was like, let me at it,
and I was like, don't do this.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yes, that was amazing, like amazing. She can't even get
on the water and enjoy herself without a freaking boat
being called jack more. Shannon just trying to like heal
her blistered up toe and drive the boat hungover and
(53:31):
there's a boat, a vessel like a freighter, a ship,
a cargo ship. That says Jansen, that's my cargo ship.
I was pranking Shannon, Oh brother, Okay, so where do
we land this? Gretchen and Tamera. I really thought at
(53:52):
the end of this whole thing with Judge Emily in
the middle trying to negotiate that that it did get
to a good place, so that when we went to
dinner that night and Tam was like, well she was
puffed again, I was like, but I thought that you
guys kind of made up again. So I didn't understand
why she was mad at dinner again.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Because she read Gretchen not showing up, which is a
big deal, okay, as Gretchen feeling sorry for herself because
of what something like, because all they knew is Jen
reporting that Gretchen was really upset of from the boat.
That's so that's their information, and then Jen being like,
(54:35):
but you know it's it's you know, she's just processing
the whole thing, And I can see Tamar being like, no,
she's not, she's reloading, Like that's exactly the vibe.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I think reloading great point, because well she went on
the sprinter van and she was crying and she couldn't
get a hold of herself, which again jet lag. But
that's going to bring up some stuff and triggers, and
so I think she was being vulnerable to say, like
I I'm looking inward and she said that to Tamra.
I think she humbled herself a lot by saying, I'm
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just speaking my truth. But maybe when I do that,
I do things that I shouldn't and say things that
I shouldn't. And I thought that was a good step
in the right direction, considering some of the choices that
she's made, not to say that, plenty of housewives have
done the same. But Tamara accepted that and was like,
that's the gust thing I've ever heard to say. And
(55:29):
I think she was continuing to reflect on that unless
she knew what was coming about about what Gina is
going to bring up next week, do you think that
she was like crying because she knew something was coming
for her, Like Tamra said, she's scared. She's nervous because
something's she's worried something else he's going to come at her.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Maybe maybe I don't. I could I could see that.
I also think that. You know, Tamar is one to
be like we apologize, so it's the clean plate club
like she we saw her try to do that with
Shannon on the Girls Trip. You know, we've seen it
for a hundred years with Tama. But I think she
(56:13):
got out of that boat and was just like, so
we're great now, so no more. Gretchen can never cry again,
And it's like, okay, well, Tamra, So like part of
me is like I get Tamra logic, and then at
the same time, like I don't. I think Tamara has
so much shit on Gretchen that like she could say
(56:34):
that she could say something's coming down the pike and
be right too, you know what I mean, Like she has.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Right so much. Yes, I see what you're saying. Yeah.
And maybe and if she did think that something was
coming meaning Gretchen, she wouldn't have shown up to dinner.
But she got her stuff together. She called Slade, and
she was able to rally and get on down to dinner.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I think if she knew that was coming from Gina,
she would have addressed it head on. She wouldn't have
waited for it to be brought up.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Maybe maybe Slade was like don't bring it up unless
they bring it up.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
I mean, it's so public, the posts and stuff. Yeah,
it's like I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Kah okay, But before we jump in there, which we're
gonna probably just save until next week because that's where
they left. Yeah, but in the van, when Gretchen was crying,
she was like, you know, crying about the person who
she is, and it's a defense mechanism. I don't feel
like the ladies really did a great job at telling Tamra.
(57:43):
It seems like Gina's heading in the right direction with this.
She's looking inward and she's asking herself these questions. I
don't know, because Tarmra seemed so passed. Any Who, Gretchen
brings it up and is like I hate this back
and forth and oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. Gretchen's like,
I just hate this back and forth. And Gretchen's like,
but you started it again, you know. So then we're
(58:05):
getting back there, and I just want to like, be
done with this, be done with this. So anyway, dinner's over.
We have a cliffhanger about Gina, who's like trying to
figure out whether or not she's going to bring up
these headlines because heatherre's you know, he needs out.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
I mean it's not even headlines, it's these posts. You
can google it posts see it allegedly. But yeah, I
I as this episode wrapped up, I can't. I I'm
never gonna enjoy hearing Gretcher's I.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
It's like that needs a chalkboard. I think there's probably
more fun for them to say. They don't realize how
much it actually hurts our ears. You know, like when
you're popping packing bubble bubble bubble packing and it's so
fun to do and the noise doesn't bother you because
like you're in charge of it, but it's really annoying
(59:04):
to other people, especially when you're jumping on it. Yeah,
it's that's what it's like when you says.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, and then it also been also how there's like,
what's up? G She called her g she did. I'm like,
why are we coming up with fun nicknames?
Speaker 5 (59:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Like just call her Gretchen. Other people have two syllable names,
and we figured it out, like what are you?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I don't know, I don't know. It's almost like they
treat her like a little toddler or something. Well, yeah,
she dresses a little like sometimes suggest as a little
toddler like, but like a little toddlers and tierras, I mean,
not just like any toddler.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yep, yeah right, Well we will.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Hear about what these realmas. I know I'm gonna marry
all right, Well, listen, it's a great time to start
the weekend for everybod. And also, don't forget to get
your tickets to Cabaremi. Head on over to meet Amy Phillips,
which is my Instagram page, and if you go to
(01:00:09):
the link in the bio, you will be directed to
get your tics. Baby. Also, I'll put the link right
here in the notes of the podcast. Emily Great, When
are you moving off the grid.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Right now? I'm in a hot spring as we speak.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Oh God, are you with Tanner? I don't know he's
gonna want you to take your shirt off?
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I just know it. He promised they could as long
as they carry up this five gallon bucket. Are you
with tea?
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Are you with tanners?
Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome in to one in all Darlings. It's a gorgeous
California Friday. Here with two California Darlings, Emily Dresas and
Deanna Chang. Ladies, thanks for joining today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh my gosh, thanks for having guys.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thank you, sister, Deanna, sister, are so happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes, I'm so excited that they're doing a Netflix documentary
on our sister wifehood and how twisted and it is
so Welcome to our Sister Wives podcast. Today we're going
to be talking about white Swap great, yes, and we
know a lot about that because we are your wives.
And we're also going to be talking about the Real
(01:03):
Housewives of Orange County the penultimate episode of the season,
not including the reunions.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Emily, I saw her look at me well, including to
watch What Happens Lives, you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Know, because they're lay there.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I want to flip a goddamn table.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I got one person like this, Okay, I will to
be a little bit of a devil's advocate, you know,
because I you know what, I got my start on
watching has Lives, so I have their back. Okay, Yeah,
but also I've noticed, yes, people move for the most part,
don't like it, but then guess what happens? They're like,
(01:48):
I was forced to watch, so I only watched the
first like ten fifteen minutes, and you know what so
and so said, and so they get a little tea.
So you know, but I hear you, I hear you
watch What Happens Live? You know, do do we hear them?
Maybe they need to get those streams. And what if
if they don't get those streams, they get canceled?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, Devil's Advocate, I did, I know what you're talking about.
And guess what happened to me? It went straight to
an old episode of Watch What Happens?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I didn't. You can get the Shannon Garcella. I had
to watch that raw like go away and get it.
Like you're saying, like it if it skips through it?
Are you saying in Peacock? Is that what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
About at the end of the Orange County episode example,
it'll roll into it. But I see what you're saying
when you're like, continue watching it goes it skips the
episode and goes to watch What Happens Live? Is that
what you're saying, no.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I watched see No. I think so Nycock must have
messed up. Okay, but it auto automatically went to like
tam uh I automatically went to a Miami episode of
Watch What Happens and I was like.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Wait, yeah, well that's that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was putting my makeup on it, and I was
like I actually could and it was like over here,
and it's like, wait a second. I know for a
fact Shannon and Garcel were on lastning what is going on?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I see it's skipped to a completely random episode after
the Orange County.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And this could still be part of the AWS meltdown.
We had a few days ago and.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was I think it was, but Watch what Happens Live?
I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Here's may I make a pitch, sorry just once, let
me just say this. They can have it. We go
to Peacock. We march ourselves over to Peacock to watch
our programs. We go to Real house Eves of Orange County.
You can have it. I'll give you this. You can
have it in the queue chronologically, but do not call
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it episode five of Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Of you know what? But is that what they're doing?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yes, yes, now you're making me wonder if that's what
they're doing. But yes, no, it's it's called Watch what
Happens Live. But it's like the next it's they're considering
it an episode of that series.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All right, I just checked you guys. Yes, they are
titling Watch what Happens to Live episodes as Orange County episodes.
And that's what I'm looking at right now. That is confusing. Okay,
fair enough, all right, Air, your grievance is because we
need to move on what Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm just thinking, like I have a friend of the show,
Jessica Joy, who binge watches full seasons to fall asleep to,
including reunions. She can sleep to them. So now are
I have a doctor having to sit through Watch what
Happens Old? Watch what Happens? Which is fine, it's a
(04:53):
great show. I'm just saying, when you are ready to
get through the Housewives app we'll have to ask them.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
There's has to be like, yes, I think they could
slot them in there if they had to, because it's
benefiting the Watch What Happens Live, But to name it
an additional episode of the series is not of the
lord and they need to But I don't, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think it's a digital programming issue. They probably cannot
slot that in there after the episode unless they categorize
it under the chat underneath the episode numbers, or else
it wouldn't be allowed to be in there. And I
think they're experimenting with the platform because at the end
of the day, it's an extension of what you just saw.
(05:41):
You're getting interviews with the people who were just on
that episode. And now that that just means when I'm
talking about going right into that the most current watch
it happens live, Emily, we're discontinuing whatever happened in your
glitchy peacock that day and.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Just say dim over that, yes, forget aws.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So I think that they they if they're going to
sort it out, they either needed to have it in
there or have it completely out of there, because I
don't think programming would allow it, you know, from a
digital perspective, is what I'm trying to say. What would
Bo's say. You know, she's the marketing genius. What does
she have to say about it? Let's head on over
(06:24):
to Jimmy Fallon, you know, and see their show branding.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I watched the first episode is pretty good and.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Did watch What Happens Live episode just circle, just like
go right into that one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Branding is now the thirty ninth episode of the season
of Real Housewives Never really Knows.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeh, all right, well, none of our Orange County episodes
rolled into Wife Swap. We had to go there on
our own, of our own volition, and as a matter
of fact, we did, and we all watched the first
episode of Wife Swap, which was upper show and she's
swapping on me.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That's off the crude.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
An announcement.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's talk about this wife Swap episode before we get
into Orange County. All right, well, I mean listen, I
thought it was really cute, really sweet, definitely the same
formula as the original Non Housewives version. And you know,
everybody learns a lesson by the end, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Except for expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you don't think she.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
She actively didn't learn a lesson.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
She tried to, like say, it's really hard with those
cameras around.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But that's not the lesson. That wasn't really.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What what would be the lesson to go out on
the town more? I think was the idea.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Get great point. I don't like how she she showed
up at Angie's house, and she basically had to do
the same thing that she already does.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That's true, but she got to use more chemicals to
do that and more like like appliances. Right, So it
probably felt like half the work.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I suspect Lindsay and I don't think we're ahead of
ourselves here, but I there's an there's something, there's an
anger running through Lindsay that is like she couldn't let
herself be like, you know what, all she had to
do to settle me down was go taking a hot
(08:41):
shower felt amazing. Let's get real, babe, bib. You know,
she was so up her own ass about being off
the grid that she couldn't give it to us and
I and and you know what, you enjoyed it, honey,
you know you did, like just be like, you know what,
(09:03):
it was nice, It felt good. It was I actually
got a layer of dirt off that's been there for
the last three years.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, Like because when they were trying to camp outside,
you know, she wasn't the first one running into the
tent with a dog piss on it. Like that definitely
bothered her. She was like, I don't want to sleep
in there.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Right, Yeah, so none of them slept outside.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, so they tried to and then they were like, no,
we're not doing it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah yeah, so like they even she.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Was like, I didn't want to do it because we
didn't have padding. So you know, at that point, go
a little further like what you're saying. So what I
did was I took a steam and it felt really good,
and then I got into this you know bed that
had more layers than the princess and the pea. And
it was weird to me that she went there and
(09:51):
was like we're gonna gut a fish, We're going to
do all these things, and not as much like they
weren't like, oh, we're gonna go and do more more
things that we normally do. We're gonna go shopping. I mean,
I know she got her hair done. That was nice.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
She hated guys. I love Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I like style, get out there and we get out there,
get on the grid.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Ye off the grid. I'm super cool. I actually really did.
I love first of all, like I when you see Amy,
when you were like, well, this is what we're going
over today to start up a new show, you know,
the way I have to make my way over to
(10:35):
that platform and just it's so hard for me because
I just have a resistance to the new thing.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Because I do too.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, it's just like but I feel like I have
to go off the grid to get on the grid,
to get over there.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Nice, Nice. I love this show and I thought it
was absolutely adorable and fun and I enjoyed the whole
goddamn thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Wow, So it's it's a I think they did a
great job producing it. It felt like the right amount
of time. I liked that we weren't there for a week,
two weeks. I like that it out.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Here's a little tidbit. I don't know if you saw this,
but it was spoken about I don't know where. I'm sorry,
I can't keep credit, but Melissa Gorga, who was also
going to be on this show, she basically negotiated for
all the housewives to have security in the house while
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they slept there because they didn't plan that at all.
They were going to have these housewives sleep in these
strangers' homes and like leave them there, like the crew
would leave them there, everybody would leave. I think that
that's potential, very scary personally. I know, a background check
can go can only go a certain certain ways, and
(12:07):
how weird would you feel? I mean, anything is possible. Also,
a stranger in your home with your kids. I don't know.
It's just very bizarre. And I think that she was
smart in this day and age to do something like
that because they didn't consider that. And so when she
was like, I'm not doing this unless we have security,
(12:28):
they agreed and then everybody got security, and I thought
that was good on Melissa.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's really smart. I wouldn't have thought of it either, honestly, same,
I just would not have thought of it because it's
like they didn't probably have that in the original wife swap,
like we're only you know, we're cameras down only for
a few hours. What's the like. I just wouldn't have even.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Run out of it, I know. And that's when the
Netflix documentary starts about the time when they did a
wife swap with the housewives, you know, and that's not
what we want.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So also just in terms of like taking liability off
of Melissa's shoulders or any of them, should the hosts
say she did this or this at night or something
like that, and there's no coverage of it because they
didn't you know, you know, I just think that's really good,
just to have a witness there that's out of the
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just kind of in the background.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So Emily really loves the idea of living off the grid.
I don't, and this definitely proved it. I like plumbing.
I love plumbing. I'm all I'm here for it, here
for the plumbing, and I appreciate what they're doing on
a certain level. I'm also wondering how the hell they
(13:43):
found them, because if they don't really watch TV, I mean,
how in the world would they have discovered them. It's
just bizarre. Emily, what draws you to the off grid lifestyle?
And then why are you living in Los Angeles, one
of the most populated cities. I likery.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I like a high grid and a no grid. I
can do either what but but I will say there's
something like when you when you think about all the
shit you got to think about in a day to
be on the grid, sometimes it's nice to think about, like,
oh my gosh, all I gotta do is carry water
up a hill. Done. I would love that, and it's
(14:20):
you know, you don't have to worry about anything else.
Just get that water up the hill. That's That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, So you would be fine soaking in that tub
in the middle of the absolutely and Deanna liked it.
You liked that, Danna?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, I like the tub. I did like the tub.
I was like, I don't know what Andrew's gonna do
butt naked out here with all these chillen running around,
and you know, I know that mister Tanner is going
to get a peaksy out the window.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But he wanted it disappointed honestly, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They had a chemistry. But yes, I would enjoy the tub.
I would. I didn't look at that tub and turn
my nose down. I said, that looks fun to be,
you know, titties free out in a time.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But also they lived really close to the hot spring.
That's where Angie got like, yeah, that looked great, Like yeah,
there's a lot of cool gangs around.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
There, yes, and a great bar where they could go
and do drinks. Yeah, gorgeous. Utah, did anybody get Idaho?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh? Sor it was Challice Idaho? Wait? What was it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Chow?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I wrote it down?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, she wrote it down. She has she has it
pinned on her maps. Emily will be heading there over
the holiday break.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh yeah, track me until my phone goes dead.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Did anybody else get total Overboard vibes from Angie being
at that house? I am talking Goldie han Kurt Russell
at the very end when she's driving away in the
car and she's waving out the window and he's like,
look at her, go I love her, and the kids
(16:02):
are like, Dad, don't say that. Like even the raspy
voices reminded me of the actors on Overboard. It was
like he's falling in love with her. They're out at
this bar, she's kind of you know, in the bar,
loosening up, doing shots off the ground. I mean it
was Goldiehawn and Kurt Russell and Tanner. I mean, you know,
(16:25):
we like to see people get emotional. But he got
a little too emotional for my taste. Oh what it
was weird?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Great.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He wanted he wanted, he wanted something more from Angie,
and I think that he thought this was going to
be like a wife swap eve, you know what I mean,
Like he's in the bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Swap well, Tanner is there. Tanner's off the grid with
Lindsay because of Lindsay's rheumatoid arthritis, that's what motivated this.
And so when also when she's like, I went to
the doctor and it was diagnosed, and all they wanted
to do was give me a pill. And I was like, yeah,
because you're going to tell you about off the grid.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's like, okay, it's like, bad news is you have
rheumati arthritis. Good news is if you want to work
with it and and sort of get it sold, you
can cut like kill your own ox and just you know,
get to chopping and then without seasoning, cook it in
(17:27):
the wild and not. That's actually sort of what we
tend to tell our patients.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's like bacond option.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
There's also a pill, but I would I'm not going
to tell you to do that. Yeah, It's is much easier.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right because your pharmacy is too far. So just do this,
you know, Right, those kids gnawing on that ox tail,
I gotta say respect, you know, to say respect like crazy.
And also the little girl.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Was so hazel, so cute.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
My god, I'm so affectionate and sweet and I loved it.
And I think it's partially because she's just a sweetie. Also,
no one's around, she's so one grateful to see someone else.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You know, she's like another human being, a pretty human
being who's's nice.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, like a princess that has arrived.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, right right, truly she looks you know to see.
First of all, thank you producers. I know someone produced
that mannequin with her hat, her cowboy hat. That's that
the head that she used to keep the hat shape
when she walked in. That was so that visual was
(18:39):
so excellent. But you know, ang I, I don't necessarily
always know what to do with her as a as
a housewife. I like her, but she almost seems ai
to me most of the times, Like I don't know
when she's real. I'm like, is this real? Is this
(18:59):
how you are?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Ye were?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I can't like make throw dors.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I'm gonna throw this horse right now. I'm so many.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
She was a bully tanner, but she was so charming
in this and yeah lovely and I loved seeing her
like be like, you know what, let me get comfortable
and correctly dressed, ish and just lose her makeup and
(19:30):
it was delightful.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, her showing up at the end with a with
a fresh raw face, maybe a little bit of lip.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh did you see that she had the flake set's
the family over to her house for to watch it
with them, so she had them travel too.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Did you see that and watching What Happens Live?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I saw it on episode forty three of Salt Lake City,
which was just a Angie's Instagram.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's nodded in making us in all these other wormholes. Yeah,
to a gofund me re.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Association in the Peacock gap right right, and then you
get the show Angie, which is weird from the seventies,
but it's all there like we Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But it's Angie Harmon's Best of.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Angie's List, which is a Los Angeles non profit.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's so cool that they're letting high ass Gina do
the programming on Peacock. That's what's happened right now. Yeah,
with some edible it's like, you know what we should do,
just put everything into the app. Okay, is there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Anything else we want to talk about this episode? Oh?
Mary came in.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Mary was great, fabulous.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Look at us sister wives finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Mary was great.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It did not work, Okay, Mary was fabulous, yabulous, We
got it. I don't know, Okay, So Mary was great.
She of course is the perfect literal fish out of
(21:30):
water situation with her coming in and seeing the gutted fish,
and so no, is this what we're doing? Oh no?
And that was fun?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, aren't you guys a little concerned like we
should all kind of know how to live off the
grid for a couple of days, right? Yeah? I Mary's sake,
and everybody's sick. I'm like, well, like kind of like.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Mary, maybe pay attention a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, and and anyone's perhaps somebody who is living
high end on the grid, like the housewives, or anyone
who's wealthy and just loves the perks of life, life
and they can't get along without it, without their knock
on the dishwasher, dishwasher, and them quite frankly weird, just
too far. But anyway, they may say to themselves and
(22:18):
to others, if I can't live the way I want
to live, I don't want to live at all, And
so I don't need to learn that put me out,
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, very dark, Okay, but I appreciate that, Amy, because
if we get to a point with like a zombie apocalypse,
it's walking dead style, I'm gonna be hitting those homes
up first to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Get smart supplies smart Yeah, okay, right, but I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You know, survival skills I think should be taught in schools,
not just if you're you join like the Scouts of America.
I also think a lot more should be taught in schools,
you know, health wise, you know, things of that nature,
more street sense, tips for living, self defense, things like that.
(23:09):
I really do think that there should be more of
a model and a structure for that in our schools.
Thank you for listening to this, Thank you for you,
Thank you. That a nice emotional ending where they got
together and Angie's like, I just felt bad that I
had bad thoughts about you and your family living off
the grid. That I was like, these people were fucking crazy,
and I was like, I can't believe I just thought that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then I also thought like, why her husband is
so undertrapped if I could never be around him for real?
And then I felt bad that I thought that, And
then I thought, Wow, this place is a shit hole,
and I thought, oh, I'm so sorry I thought that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And then.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
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Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
As it turns out, Deanna was having some technical issues.
She as I don't know if you guys could hear it,
but there were times when she was going in and out,
and you know, ironically, it turns out that Deanna is
actually off the grid, and she was trying to connect
with us off the grid. Well, Emily, does that work.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm jealous of Deanna. She's having she's living with the
flakes now, she's hauling water up with Tanner. Actually tannered
in all.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Shit, No he didn't. And and by the way, we
failed to mention how absolutely ripped.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Lindsay's ripped, ripped, and Tanner, I don't understand how he
is also not ripped. But then point, what did.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Your Shay get your shit together? Tanner? Oh? I said,
we didn't know what he looked like before they went
off the grid. Maybe it was worse I was.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Talking about when you were like, because she's doing all
the work. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I did say that, thank you. Yeah, she's doing all
the work. He's sitting on his ass in that tub
waiting for Angie to come. Got my eyes on you, Tanner, Yep,
all right. Well, so Diana had to go, and so
I apologize she had to go check on the chicken,
(31:26):
and so she will not be joining us for the
Orange County recap. That brings us to the Orange County Recap.
And let's see what happened over there.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's the morning after Shannon was stoned out of her mind,
and we get right back into one shoe. Shannon in
the lobby completely basically still high from the night before.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, and I was looking forward to Shannon maybe having
this sober California lifestyle where she would not drink as
much but like do edibles. But I don't think Shannon
can handle it because they don't go through her system
that quickly. And she had like an eyepatch in her hair,
and like, what is worse? What is worse? She put
(32:12):
lipstick on her eyelids. Everything is coming up, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's wild, you know, because like if she didn't go
as hard, she probably would have had a great experience.
Maybe she's you know, maybe later on she felt it
was a great experience. But wow, she did, you know,
she went in to the deep end.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I will say on watch what happens. She said that
she will partake again on special occasions. Oh okay. Then
she railed on Earle Love Hotel. Well that yeah, there
was this moment where she was just like, you better
stop posting pictures of me if we're done, And Andy's
(32:52):
like what Also, Shannon didn't know what a dilf was.
It was fun. Yeah, everything was great.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's always great. I have spanks, I love spanks. I
wears my shoe.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
She talked about that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
She did okay, well, when they went to the see
the tulips, they were doing like microdosing mushrooms if you will,
We're going to see the tulips in all of their glory.
So it was really basically like Gina and Heather who
just did that? No one else did. Yeah, that's right.
(33:25):
I wish everybody would have done that. You know, Shannon
didn't need it, didn't need it, Like she's.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Already gonna amount a plastic horse out of like being
crazy on camera. But this made me very nervous. This,
I asked, Shannon trying to mount that horse. Yeah, but
the three of them together, when when Heather and Gina
look over and see like, yeah, horsemen, Yeah, the three horseheads,
(33:57):
horsemen of the horse Women of the Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I loved three or Housewives of the Apocalypse, the three Horsewives.
That's really funny. But on the way there the sprinter van,
you know, Tamara and Gina and Emily are talking about
how Gretchen, like the night before, is creeping around Tamaran.
(34:21):
I'm like, she's just trying to be part of the group.
You know, this is sort of after filming and they're
at the hotel bar and there's high jinks. I think
Gretchen is trying to look for an opportunity maybe an
organic opportunity to be having fun. I suppose, I don't know.
I didn't mind her being there. I mean they're kind
of sort of were mean girling, like why is she
(34:43):
even there. It's like, well, she's part of the cast,
you guys. She wants to unwind at the bar and
see if anything something can happen. I was trying to
give her the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, because really at that point I think that they
must if you notice, they really we like just went
straight into like that footage, and I'm just like, well,
that's just Tamra being a loud assd If Gretchen was
like trying to be a part of that, it would
not have been welcomed. It was like the Tamara Show.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There was no room for her to jump in on
any of that, so she had to just sit there. Yeah,
unless she was, like I mean, you know, if she
was really going to go all the way, she could
have just been chuckling along or come a little closer.
The fact that she wasn't near them was what was
weird about it. You know, she was like a stranger
at the bar.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, And I guess, like to that whole point, like
I do think she's probably on the periphery a lot.
And honestly, that's I know we're getting there, but I
that's why I thought she was maybe like really upset
because she was exhausting to be like, where's my entrance.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I also think this whole episode, you know, with her
crying and stuff like that, honestly think it had I saw,
like Gina, I honestly think you to do with jit leg.
I think she was jet lagged. That's exactly why I
think she was acting like that. Okay, totally, yeah, Yeah,
I don't think it was used to that. All the
other housewives, you know, they'y pretty you know, used to
(36:11):
traveling at this rate, you know, so their bodies can
acclimate faster. Gretchen has been out of the loop. She's
been home, she's doing influencing, you know, all her work
has been at home. So she was thrown for a
freaking loop with that jet lag. And we all know
what that feels like, we all do, all of us
(36:32):
jet setters anyhow. And then Tara was like, it's nervous
about just just nerves us something coming her way. It's
nervous about just nervous and yeah, and then we get
into like Jen and Gina's really talking about Jen and
how she's basically fake and she's whoever her friends want
(36:56):
her to be. And I find this to be interesting
because this episode really did unravel a lot of kind
of like who Jen is. I mean, it was the
same situation that we never saw the other side of,
like with Katie and Gretchen, where it's like Jen is
saying what are you doing right now? Like what are
you saying? I did not do that. I did not
(37:18):
say that. But in this case, we actually got a
flashback of Jen saying, yeah, I don't know why she's
helding this bridal shower for me, Like that's very strange.
So Jen, you're caught. You're caught. You're caught.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You're caught. But I'm also like, Geina, what is this?
What is this party you're pitching to? Shannon? Travis and
I were fighting Perry here where was my party? Because
we're in a good spot.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean it's like a castle roll, you know, she
wants a party. But I was like, well, I mean
Jen's getting married, it's an event. It So I agree
with you. This pitch does not make sense. It's very
much which where's my cast?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Role.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know, but to Jen's point in this, I
see how it's totally bizarre that this party turned into
a bridal shower a day before. Yes, that makes no sense,
totally fine to call that out. Yeah, part of me
is like, well, I get it that, it's like ridiculous
that it turned into that. So then it's like, Gina,
(38:26):
why are you bringing this up? As if she's saying
this is the stupidest thing. I think Jen was saying.
Production was not.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, but Jen was wrong. I mean Jen was wrong
to deny that she didn't have a problem with it. Now,
I will say I did watch the after show and
Jen really leans into like what we already know because
she said it, but like about how this is a
lot of the marriage's gonna is triggering because she's been
divorced and she's still dealing with all that, so to
celebrate it in this way was like off putting. But
(38:59):
she was very grateful for Shannon to do this. Got
it Okay, But that is not what she said to Gina.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's not. No, it's definitely not and that's her sort
of like not backpalet pedaling, But she definitely explained it better.
It just it just makes her look like a liar.
And it's the same wording, do you know what I'm saying,
just as Gretchen uses I misspoke several times when we
find that to be off putting because we were like,
that's just lying. Now Jen is always deflecting and putting
(39:30):
it back, like what are you doing? I don't know
what you're talking about? When it's like did you message
eight degrees? Wife? I don't know, like yeah, yeah or not?
Did you message?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Did you follow?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I don't know, you know the whole thing. Did you
follow a degrees guy? Did you? Did you? And Katie,
you know, hear what Gretchen said at this dinner. I
don't know what you're talking about. It's giving your liar face.
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Okay, you said that also like Gina the Tony just said,
it's the problem. That's kind of also how Gina was
talking high I don't even know something, I have a question,
like it was like the soft gentle tones.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Adult Gina, right, So it really muted a lot of
her tulip colors, and yet didn't because she wouldn't stop talking.
It just was a different level.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, and oh my god, seeing Emily it's just like
at her limit.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Shot, will you shut the fuck up? I do like
a friendship where someone can actually say can you please
shut the fuck up? And it pretty times seriously, Yes.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I get it. Yeah, no, I get it many times
and then scream and then Gina's like, that's I got
the note. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
There's like, let's play the quiet game. That Tulip Garden
or whatever you call it looked so cool it made
me want to go there so bad. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
No, I know, so pretty what Gina miss here like
everything's going to die? What everything's dying? Well, it's seasonal Ah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Heatherre's like, is this tulip outline? And they like put
a face on it. I do. I wanted more of that,
the tripping out kind of situation. I I absolutely loved it.
So yeah. They were talking about that in the Sprinner
van about Jen is whoever her friends want her to be,
and we got into the save the date thing. What
were you saying?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh I?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Because it also is all coupled in. The Jen and
Shannon thing is also coupled in with the Alexis and
Jen being friends with her and and how dare Shannon
say anything? And I don't get I can't get there
with everybody. I stay with Shannon on that Shannon went
through hell. And if you watch that and you don't
(42:07):
see that as a warning for yourself, I don't. And
I get that Shannon was not blameless, but my gosh, yeah,
I would not want to be friends with those people.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Absolutely, and camera shouldn't either, considering yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yes, yeah, I don't think. Here's the semantics. I don't
think Shannon's ever going to say I will be friends
with you if you're friends with them. But it is
a good personality.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Indicator because I'm I can't trust you.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I mean, yeah, I don't have to be friends with
you just because you're friends with them, And that's a
pretty big red line for me.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
There was a lot of confusion, and I'd like to
apologize for last week when I said that Jen received
a wedding invitation to Alexis and and Johnny jay Is wedding,
that she was invited, that wasn't true. She only got
a save the date, and so at that point we're
sort of seeing what happen now, which is she got
(43:13):
to save the date, she decided not to go right
because she's friends with Shannon. So she must have told
that to Alexis, I don't feel comfortable going, and that
is why she didn't get the wedding invitation. But then,
didn't you say something like Shannon said and watch What
Happens Live, that Alexis gave Jen a wedding invitation the
(43:36):
day of her wedding or how would that have even happened?
Did she text her the day of her wedding?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I bet who has time for that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
It is the worst move to make if you're on
the fence about inviting somebody. I just think that was
so weird. I think it was so weird. And the
source on the gen didn't get an invitation is Alexis,
and I to your point, I think that's exactly how
it laid out. I think Jen made the choice not
to be invited. I think she said thank you, but
(44:06):
out of respect to Shannon, I'm making all this up.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, but I think you're that's I'm on that same page.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, yeah, And I think then Alexis I could turn
on her heel and be like, well, I didn't even
send her an invitation, right right? But then to Shannon,
according to Shannon that the.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Day of that makes you sense, That makes no sense. Yeah,
I don't know, Well you don't and neither do I,
and so I guess we just leave it here. So
that's weird. You know, there was some confusion with the
ladies that Shannon told her not to go, and Shannon's like,
I said, no such thing. So I did appreciate them
(44:47):
clearing that up, and that we know that Shannon wasn't like,
don't go, because that was that was a fight that
all the other ladies were looking to have at that
table on this trip, and it was like, gals, I
know that you're looking for something through these tulips to
fight about, but that's not it. So they moved on, yep.
(45:08):
And then that's when the whole thing happened about Jen,
you know, talking about being honest with Shannon, like you
even said that you had to take time out of
your data faster this fake friend sheep. That's weird. I mean,
Gina is like not afraid to take all the shit
(45:31):
from off camera that Jenna said and just throw it
on the table, not afraid at all.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, and is very uninhibited right now and getting and
the thing is she's not getting everything correct, and she's
people like so anything she said there, Shannon's almost believing,
but then like remembering that Gina is very high, so
she's like, I don't know where to land on this.
(45:57):
Shannon doesn't understand how this works. It's not like drinking
where you might like run your mouth and say too
much or whatever. But like Channon, shit, I don't think
any of it like really landed with her.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It must way I have, because they had a great
time at dinner.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, exactly, and they and to your point, all of
the other gals are like, oh man, we set that table,
now they are falling through it to.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Like and like just random TikTok dances. I don't know
what was going on, but it was really funny and
I really enjoyed it and I like them together, so
good on them. It's been a bumpy road, but I'm
happy that we're not getting fully stuck there because it's
just not worth being invested in. So yeah, what's worth
(46:45):
being invested in is jet Leg Gretchen. And before we
get into the jacuzzi boats, I want to mention that
she has h six businesses. She's a she's a very
big influencer. I mean that is like her job. I
think she makes a lot of great money. I think
she's done a really nice job for herself at setting
up a career as an influencer. So many housewives of
(47:08):
yesteryear have gone on to not be able to you know,
execute or take advantage of their platform in a way
that branches out in a completely different area where they're
just doing products, you know. And I think she's done
a really nice job at that and has been for
such a long time. So it is shocking for her
to be back on the show because she kind of
(47:28):
escapes the web. So I feel like being back on
the show is I don't know if that's gonna I'm
sure it'll help her business. I mean, what am I nuts?
But it's not helping her one bit. These jacuzzie boats,
where do you stand on these?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
You and I both hate hot ups. I don't want
to be in it, and I don't want to be
in the jacuzzie boat. Just put me in a boat.
I don't need to be in this.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Sit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
What I liked was what they did once they got in,
which is just putting their feet in and they sat
on the ledge.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, you know, I am sure if I like jacuzzi's,
it would be a much different story and it would
be amazing. I just didn't like, I don't want it
to me. What it looked like was let's all get
in a hot ass bath together. I don't want to
do that, especially with like like Channon's foot.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well she did put it outside of a jacuzzi, so
good on her.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I want to say when it comes to jacuzzi's, Emily,
let's say you have a jacuzzi okay, mm hmm, and
very few people go in it. I come over. I
would feel comfortable in your jacuzzi. And if that was
the situation at my house, would you feel comfortable in
(48:50):
my jacuzzi? Or still? No?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh god that hurts. That hurts a little bit. It
hurts a little Not gonna lie, hurts a lot. I
just think it's like a brand new and I have
people coming and cleaning it, and like it's just capt
up to the nine in terms of cleanliness.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Below deck style where they drain it and refill it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Oh, like no, clean it, no.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Because I would do that, But the second I'm not
getting back.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
It's a waste of water. Emily, what are you gonna do?
I tell Grid.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's what I'm saying, get in the hot spring that
I'll do running water natural.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
In a hot spring with Would you get into a
hot spring with other people?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yes, of course and have done it many times.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Well, I'm gonna have to talk to you about that
for a second. How would you get into a hot
spring when there's no chlorine in it? That seems more
dangerous and like you're getting exposed to more things when
you're getting into a hot spring with strangers or other people,
as opposed to a jacuzie, it actually has anti bacterial
(50:00):
fighting agents that will protect you from the likes of
someone's std.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Hot springs have running water through them, so it's all
it's circulating constantly, and I look, you enjoyed that chlorine,
my friend, I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
If your problem is if your problem is germs, is.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
It, it's it's a lot of it's a it's a
Petri dish. I just I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
I feel the same way. But I'm trying to tell
you I wouldn't get into a hot spring with strangers.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Something happens in my head when it's a heated pool.
I hate that. When it's uh, there's just something about
a man made heat water thing where I'm like, I
don't want.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
This a man made heat. Okay, yeah, drilling down, I'm
getting I'm hearing what you're saying. I still think it's
peculiar that you would get into a hot spring with strangers.
Though those two things don't line up for me. I
think you're gonna need to look inward. But it's I
see you and I now now I will go in
(51:12):
your jacuzzie, but I wouldn't go into a hot spring.
You would not with other people like strangers, that with strangers,
with strangers, but you would, and you wouldn't come into
my private jacuzzie where it doesn't have lots of strangers.
But you will go into a hot spring with strangers.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, great, all.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right, but that's where we slid out. That's where we
slid off. Okay, in the hot spring, all right, we
will get into everyone's like mom and dad are fighting again.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I'm asleep. But what is hot springs? What is chacuzzi?
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Why are I would love to hear about how you
guys feel.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
You know that is true? Yeah, and let me tell
you I know I am odd man out, Like I
get it. Everybody loves a hot tub. I am here
to say, I am weird.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I get it as am I by not wanting to
go in it with a bunch of people. Last time
I was on vacation, don't remember where. I think it
was Palm Springs. Yeah, it was Palm Springs, and all
my friends jumped into this hot this jacuzzie with a
bunch of strangers that had been sitting there for god
(52:29):
knows how long drinking, and I was like, you're sitting
in hot piss. God bless see you back at the room. Yep,
all right. So we got them in these boats and
Shannon was just like, I grew up on boats. I
grew up on boats. I'm a boater. I'm a boater. Crash,
excuse me, sir. I died when she was like does
(52:52):
that boat say Janson? And it did?
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yes. Yeah. I was like, don't hit it. Like there
was a moment where she was like, let me at it,
and I was like, don't do this.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yes, that was amazing, like amazing. She can't even get
on the water and enjoy herself without a freaking boat
being called jack more. Shannon just trying to like heal
her blistered up toe and drive the boat hungover and
(53:31):
there's a boat, a vessel like a freighter, a ship,
a cargo ship. That says Jansen, that's my cargo ship.
I was pranking Shannon, Oh brother, Okay, so where do
we land this? Gretchen and Tamera. I really thought at
(53:52):
the end of this whole thing with Judge Emily in
the middle trying to negotiate that that it did get
to a good place, so that when we went to
dinner that night and Tam was like, well she was
puffed again, I was like, but I thought that you
guys kind of made up again. So I didn't understand
why she was mad at dinner again.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Because she read Gretchen not showing up, which is a
big deal, okay, as Gretchen feeling sorry for herself because
of what something like, because all they knew is Jen
reporting that Gretchen was really upset of from the boat.
That's so that's their information, and then Jen being like,
(54:35):
but you know it's it's you know, she's just processing
the whole thing, And I can see Tamar being like, no,
she's not, she's reloading, Like that's exactly the vibe.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I think reloading great point, because well she went on
the sprinter van and she was crying and she couldn't
get a hold of herself, which again jet lag. But
that's going to bring up some stuff and triggers, and
so I think she was being vulnerable to say, like
I I'm looking inward and she said that to Tamra.
I think she humbled herself a lot by saying, I'm
(55:05):
just speaking my truth. But maybe when I do that,
I do things that I shouldn't and say things that
I shouldn't. And I thought that was a good step
in the right direction, considering some of the choices that
she's made, not to say that, plenty of housewives have
done the same. But Tamara accepted that and was like,
that's the gust thing I've ever heard to say. And
(55:29):
I think she was continuing to reflect on that unless
she knew what was coming about about what Gina is
going to bring up next week, do you think that
she was like crying because she knew something was coming
for her, Like Tamra said, she's scared. She's nervous because
something's she's worried something else he's going to come at her.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Maybe maybe I don't. I could I could see that.
I also think that. You know, Tamar is one to
be like we apologize, so it's the clean plate club
like she we saw her try to do that with
Shannon on the Girls Trip. You know, we've seen it
for a hundred years with Tama. But I think she
(56:13):
got out of that boat and was just like, so
we're great now, so no more. Gretchen can never cry again,
And it's like, okay, well, Tamra, So like part of
me is like I get Tamra logic, and then at
the same time, like I don't. I think Tamara has
so much shit on Gretchen that like she could say
(56:34):
that she could say something's coming down the pike and
be right too, you know what I mean, Like she has.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Right so much. Yes, I see what you're saying. Yeah.
And maybe and if she did think that something was
coming meaning Gretchen, she wouldn't have shown up to dinner.
But she got her stuff together. She called Slade, and
she was able to rally and get on down to dinner.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I think if she knew that was coming from Gina,
she would have addressed it head on. She wouldn't have
waited for it to be brought up.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Maybe maybe Slade was like don't bring it up unless
they bring it up.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
I mean, it's so public, the posts and stuff. Yeah,
it's like I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Kah okay, But before we jump in there, which we're
gonna probably just save until next week because that's where
they left. Yeah, but in the van, when Gretchen was crying,
she was like, you know, crying about the person who
she is, and it's a defense mechanism. I don't feel
like the ladies really did a great job at telling Tamra.
(57:43):
It seems like Gina's heading in the right direction with this.
She's looking inward and she's asking herself these questions. I
don't know, because Tarmra seemed so passed. Any Who, Gretchen
brings it up and is like I hate this back
and forth and oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. Gretchen's like,
I just hate this back and forth. And Gretchen's like,
but you started it again, you know. So then we're
(58:05):
getting back there, and I just want to like, be
done with this, be done with this. So anyway, dinner's over.
We have a cliffhanger about Gina, who's like trying to
figure out whether or not she's going to bring up
these headlines because heatherre's you know, he needs out.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
I mean it's not even headlines, it's these posts. You
can google it posts see it allegedly. But yeah, I
I as this episode wrapped up, I can't. I I'm
never gonna enjoy hearing Gretcher's I.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
It's like that needs a chalkboard. I think there's probably
more fun for them to say. They don't realize how
much it actually hurts our ears. You know, like when
you're popping packing bubble bubble bubble packing and it's so
fun to do and the noise doesn't bother you because
like you're in charge of it, but it's really annoying
(59:04):
to other people, especially when you're jumping on it. Yeah,
it's that's what it's like when you says.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, and then it also been also how there's like,
what's up? G She called her g she did. I'm like,
why are we coming up with fun nicknames?
Speaker 5 (59:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Like just call her Gretchen. Other people have two syllable names,
and we figured it out, like what are you?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I don't know, I don't know. It's almost like they
treat her like a little toddler or something. Well, yeah,
she dresses a little like sometimes suggest as a little
toddler like, but like a little toddlers and tierras, I mean,
not just like any toddler.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yep, yeah right, Well we will.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Hear about what these realmas. I know I'm gonna marry
all right, Well, listen, it's a great time to start
the weekend for everybod. And also, don't forget to get
your tickets to Cabaremi. Head on over to meet Amy Phillips,
which is my Instagram page, and if you go to
(01:00:09):
the link in the bio, you will be directed to
get your tics. Baby. Also, I'll put the link right
here in the notes of the podcast. Emily Great, When
are you moving off the grid.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Right now? I'm in a hot spring as we speak.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Oh God, are you with Tanner? I don't know he's
gonna want you to take your shirt off?
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I just know it. He promised they could as long
as they carry up this five gallon bucket. Are you
with tea?
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Are you with tanners?
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