September 24, 2025 • 50 mins
From the campsite to the most sought after event in Utah, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City bring it again this week! host Amy Phillips is joined by fab co-hosts Emily Dorezas and Jamie Moyer to dissect all the drama. We argue about Bronwyn's intentions at the campfire scene, Lisa's legal troubles, Heather's struggle as a single mom. and Whitney's business woes. Plus, we break down the epic party at Amy's house, complete with a 'glory hole' champagne wall, and Bronwyn's relentless assault on Lisa. Get ready for lots of laughs, sass, and all the juicy details of your favorite Housewives.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Drama, Darling.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Drama, Darling.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome in, Darlings. It's very exciting today because
it's Real Housewives of Salt Lake City recap today. So
welcome into that and welcome in two of my fabulous
co hosts, Emily and Jamie.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Ladies, you are joining. Hello, oh, thank you. We weren't
sure you are here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now we have the confirmation that we're going to be joining.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes, you are joining. Welcome in, Hello Jamie.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
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it on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, on over, I love that from Nantucket.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Wait, there once was a housewife about you said you
sucks dick out. I don't know is that it wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Anyway, head on over to patreon dot com slash drama
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you have a limerick before we begin?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Once was a houselife from Salt Lake City, Dave Angie,
and she said, you're like Jen Shaw.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Can you blame me?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I said, it's time to buy your tickets for the
hard Rock Cafe for cabaret me.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh my gosh, great job you guys. All right, well,
let's welcome ourselves into Salt Lake City. You know these ladies,
they are so savage, They are so savage, they go
for it so fast. We are like episode two, We've
(02:50):
already had a cast trip. We were now landing hard
hard in Salt Lake City and also to clear something up, Emily,
you have the facts there in front of you. Last week,
I made a great presumption which turned out to be wrong.
My presumption for the reason that Lisa wasn't on the
(03:14):
cast trip was because she found out there was going
to it was gonna be an RV camping trip, and
there was no way she was going to do that
because we know how she is with glam and she
does not compromise with her surroundings. However, I was wrong, Emily,
please state the fact.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, the Darlings shout out to some of the Darlings,
including Allison, who were like, hey, you guys covered this
in news. Lisa wasn't there because in serving dish you
told us that she wasn't filming at the beginning of
the season because she was in contract disputes with Bravo.
(03:53):
So that's why she wasn't on the campaigns.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Where we don't remember anything, we say, you know what,
thank you. At least the darlings are listening.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I can't. I have to say, like I, it's
in one ear and out the other sometimes on this
because stuff changes so fast and Bravo like you can't
retain at all, and I will say one thing that
I did retain and fully forgot about was that remember
last year at the end of Salt Lake City, at
(04:30):
the reunion, there were all these memes and like cold
like there was just like some like detail about something
being about a divorce or like next reunion all these people.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh yeah, and we were thinking it was Justin Whitney. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, just that like it dawned on me that here
we are in the next season, and I wonder if
that all got resolved behind closed doors in terms of
whatever that was going to be, because it was thought
that it was going to be Justin and Whitney at
that reunion, right, people were clarifying, no, it's not Meredith
and Seth or it.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Could have been just a rumor. Oh totally of those
blind items are well.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Actually, to your point about Whitney and Justin, they could
have been on the fritz because of all their money issues.
We know that her business has filled and she was
there was a failure, and we know that maybe their
marriage was going to fell. So we don't know, but
you know, hopefully so I went.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Real quick though, now you hear John could be having
some cracks in his Now that we know Lisa had
these secret mxes. And I have heard amongst the grapevine
that Meredith and Seth are currently having some trouble in
real life, and that perhaps Meredith has been suspended.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
From what oh I've heard yeah, yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
From her membership to La Fitness. It's am.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I never wipe down the machines. I refuse, And so
they said to me, please leave, suspended from from the show.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, don't you There was a they're not this trip,
but there's a girl's trip coming up that made the
news about Meredith like leaving.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
To Google Google, Go go google leg google leg go
go go go, go.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Go leg serving.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I am almost very certain, that's how certain, Almost very certain.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Why would she get because I think she pops off
on somebody, and that there is a rumor that perhaps
sets as a mistress.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I did read that.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I did read that a pop off at the reunion
and she says something or perhaps does something that causes
her a bit of trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
All right, well what a weak okay, relegedly religiously. So
let's let's get back to the campsite where we're cooking steaks.
You know, we are cooking shakes. We're cooking baking, and
Bronwin is just like, I don't know, I don't know
how to cookies.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
You're right to fear for your life, you know. I
love that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I love that they saw animals across the river. That
was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Loved that whole scene was great.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It was I also really enjoyed seeing how they're not
be able to spit because of botox.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I didn't know. I mean, obviously that does make sense,
but like, yikes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, now here's my question. Do we think that they
slept in that RV because they all woke up in
full glam?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I yeah, you're right, they were all at full right.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Up there, and then they had someone come in and
glam them out.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Maybe you know how they like they probably brought like
five other you know, like movie set RVs and had
him on the other side and pop. So it's not
a lie they did sleep in an RV.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Perhaps I just thought the glam. The glam was the
big reveal. Like I was like, okay, you just showed
your hand there, everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well we get around the breakfast
fire and we are talking about the kids, so obviously
everyone's sharing. Heather, Bronwyn and Mary Whitney kind of chimed
in really on the heels of Bronwen It seemed, you know,
as Bronwyn and Heather later did make up, I would
(08:53):
love to get you know, our takes on how Bronwyn
presented her response back to Heather after or she shared
about how like it was she's been in fight or
flight ever since her divorce with her husband, and she
was raising the kids all by herself. Essentially, he would
just come in and, like, you know, do fun things
and then leave. He never had custody of the kids.
(09:15):
It was just quick dad visits, visits, and she has
been gritting her teeth the entire time, and she's exhausted.
So her kids going off to school is it's not
that she's not going to miss them, it's that it's
like she can finally take a little bit of a
breath now. When Bronwynn shares that she has the opposite
(09:36):
experience that she's like, I just can't get enough of
my daughter and I'm gonna move her her boyfriend Anna,
and I'm mother him and go back to breastfeeding. Like
I honestly did feel like I agree with Heather when
she confronted her and she was like, you don't present
things in the right way. She one hundred percent didn't
present it in the right way. And then she tries
to back up and say like, that's not what I'm saying.
(09:59):
I'm trying to say. I suppose it's like, no, you
didn't say that at all. Actually you did make it
look like she's a bad mom for wanting your kids
to go away and you can't get enough of mothering.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean, is that what you guys got.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm hearing you.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I also got a taste of Heather says what she
has to say, and Brownman goes, well, now I want
to have some attention, Like it almost was less of
a dig, and we're just like I want to talk now,
and I here that what I'm saying does it really
fit or makes sense?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right? Right? I disagree with both of you, Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
When she said what she meant, when she said what
she meant at the lunch, I was like, that totally
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I was like Heather in the moment, I was like,
what Heather said was such a unique take to that
time in someone's life that it was really interesting to me.
And I thought everybody was sharing, and I actually thought
what Bronwin was saying was like kind of she she wishes,
(11:05):
she wished that she had more of what Heather had
in terms of like, I thought what Bronwan was saying
is like I'm really going through it, whereas Heather was like,
I am ready to be done with this chapter and
Braun was like, give me some of that. That's how
I read it, And so when Heather was saying that,
I was like, when Heather got defensive, I was like,
(11:25):
I didn't get that vibe at all from what Bronwan
was saying.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Three interesting takes here, ladies, and I think all there
there may be some truth within each. I'd love to
hear also what the darlings saying, because because what he
just suddenly makes a lot of sense. So I don't
think any of us are wrong. I of course at
most right as usual, well imte Emily, I of course
I am most right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But yeah, that's interesting too.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
But you know, yours and mind bleed kind of together,
which is that Bronwin wanted some attention in that moment though.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, but I think that Bronwyn cleared it up at
that lunch that actually did make sense. I just don't
think that she said it the right way. And I
think Heather's point that like she doesn't present things the
way that maybe she means to, and it's a little
bit of word salad. So I think that Bronwyn just
needs to work on making a little more sense with
(12:18):
her point because it was missed on me. And and
it was kind of sad because when Bronwin said at
the lunch she was like, no, I was saying, like,
I've been a really bad mom and I'm trying to
make up for that, whereas Heather's like, I've been such
in a way I mean not, She's been such a
great mom and so hands on that it's time for
her to like move on to the next chapter. But
(12:39):
I also would say to Bronwen, like, you haven't been
a bad mom, like it's you know, it's I think
their experiences are just so different. But and then the
next person who said something was Whitney, who was like,
I'm I'm you know, I'm going get through the reverse.
I wish I could be home a stay at home
mom again. And I was like, again, it was like
another a lie little bit that was honest for her,
(13:01):
and I actually really appreciate that, but it did feel
like two people kind of going against Heather at the
same time, and I was like, this is just at
the end of the day, after hearing what Bronwin had
to say, I'm like, this is just utter miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And I felt bad for Heather, But.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Wow, I really was so frustrating me at the lunch too.
I was like, I I thought, like what Bronwin said
about Lisa, like, Heather, you Lisa's word salad. You talk
about someone that can't make a point quickly or oh.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Unwatched What Happens Live they did a poll on who
has the most word salad and and Lisa won that pole.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I mean, I just thought that was really unfair
of Heather to be like, you have to speak exactly
this way to meet Bronwyn or else.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, her point was lost on me too, so I'm
gonna I co sign with her. But let's talk about
Whitney says, when we merged wild Rose with another business venture,
we were really successful at first, and then you know
it all failed. But now I can't stay at home
because now have to figure out a way to make money.
(14:07):
So you know, this whole thing about remember how we
were talking about last week about her business being wild Rose,
and it merged into like they tried the MLM thing
and then there was a TikTok thing and they keep
flashing that up about MLM MLM and so it really
must have screwed everything up for her.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh yeah, she's really down. I don't think necessarily that
the bad press it didn't help. But I think what
was also happening is like with all of those MLMs,
the initial bump is big. It's sustaining that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's really hard.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So cause it's got you got a friend of a
friend and then that friend and so it's like it's
hard to sustain that. And that's I think also what
she was it was two different things not working for her.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right, Yeah, that's probably right. Yeah, well I'm married.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That MLM stands for Men Love Moyer.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I I didn't know that. I knew that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It isn't a scam.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's a fact and it's not Yeah, it's not a
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(17:19):
good days and bad days. And this is where I
loved hearing from Mary and her accolades of Heather, because
Heather wasn't really getting what she needed from a fire,
like from anybody, it just wasn't working right. And for
Mary to say, I take my hat off to any
mom that raised three kids by themselves. You should automatically
feel some type of accomplishment because I only have one
(17:41):
and I couldn't have done it with Robert SR.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
And honestly out No, that was actually a Fridian slip.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Robert Sr.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Was not around very much, so it's funny that she's like,
I couldn't have done it without Robert Senior. I'm like,
remember those early episodes. I'm like, where is he? He's
at one of the eight other houses happening, right.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Maybe he was there earlier, Maybe he was there more
when he was younger, when Robert Jr.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Was young and Mary are a team and a frankly
one of the most heartbreaking storylines of all of Housewives history.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
To see that scene, yeah, I mean her ability to
like pull back and not control and not come down
on him when she found out. Do you think that
was her finding out for the first time when he
said that he's been looking for stimuli from other sources.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Do you think it was the first time she heard.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know, because the last of the intervention that
they kind of had not a legit like every like
an intervention as.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
That was real.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That was the she they had talked about doing it.
She and Robert Junior off camera, right, So what we
saw was real of them talking through it. But she
said that she didn't realize how bad it was. So
they were on camera, so I can see that being real.
I will say, I don't know if I need to
see Robert Junior's whole journey on camera, because for his
(19:12):
mental health, I don't want him to feel like he's
got the nation to be accountable for. I feel like
that's a heavy burden as a recovering addict to be like,
oh fuck, like, yeah, I'm going to run into the
strangers and they're going to be asking me about my recovery.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, I think he needed to speak to the fact
that he wasn't completely sober. Though I doubt we'll see
him again, I think it was pretty important for him
to come on camera and be like, explain where he is.
It's one step at a time and one day at
a time, and yes, I've been you know, I'm not
completely sober right now. And I think he probably wanted
(19:50):
to get that off his chest so he doesn't have
as much pressure. And I'm glad he did, because, like
you said, people are going to be asking and they're
gonna be like, oh my god, you're such an inspiration,
like what you did, and if he's not sober, how's
he supposed to take that? So for him to like
tell everybody. Hey, look, you know, like I'm here, just
step off. I think was probably smart thing to do.
(20:12):
And you're right, I hope we don't like have to
see him again. I think it should be private from
here on out. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I just love their relationship, and I think that it
was so sad when he just doesn't have any friends
and they are best friends. And you know, when you
give up drugs and alcohol, there's you lose friends, of course,
as he's saying, but also like he just he seems
to be like a really smart kid, and he feels
(20:39):
a lot and a lot of people I've known who
have a problem with drugs and alcohol some of it
just stems from their their heart is so they're so
empathetic and everything hurts them and in the world, and
so they do drugs just like turn off their heart
wrenching reactions to every waking moment.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He gives me that vibe too.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And and like I just I just, uh, that whole
relationship just breaks my heart. And like I think they're
so close and they were such a team when he
was growing up, and and uh, you know he's smoking weed.
I don't know, and where's his wife? That's what the
guy was saying, where the hell's that wife of his member?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I hope that they're not together anymore, because if
she didn't get sober, I think I I think, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Hear that she was?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
And then I heard that she wasn't so.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And then we know a few weeks ago, some ship
went down with Robert Jr. In real time. Oh, that
was on the news. There was like an arrest.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think, yeah, I think he was caught with all Right,
so let's get into let's go back to the campfire.
And I just want to say one more thing about Heather.
When Mary said I take my hat off to raising
three kids, Like, honestly, there's not a day that goes
(22:07):
by where I don't think about people who have more
than one child and think about people who are the
only parent raising that child and.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
How hard it is.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Like I honestly think about it all the time, and
I'm like, I don't know how these people are doing it.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I don't know how they're doing it. I don't know
how they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because it's just so challenging and so for so, I
really was happy that Mary gave one flowers.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Oh, I think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Anybody that has one child you, Oh, thank you about
this at all? Me either. I was locked in on
Heather's sunglasses, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I like that on our cheek bones. I was like, oh,
I think she's had some removed from.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Her Oh the buckle buckle. Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Her plastic surgery is excellent. I will say, she looks
very good to me.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah, okay, so they pushed the RV surgery.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's when they take all the tortolini out of your
cheeks that you've been storing since the last uh party.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I love that they got out of the r V
except from Mary, and they pushed that thing.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I was like, don't like spin the wheels. Don't spin
the wheels. You're gonna get deeper and deeper. But they
got it was a.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Bit of a wild card. Remember when he like the
reil on the whee up there, He's like, oops, the doopsies?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You really did?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So, so Lisa and Heather lunch and obviously Heather's like,
and here's the tea, and she's like, tells on as
she tells on bron Win about what she said at
the at the RV trip, tells on Angie tells on everybody.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Sorry, I was reading. Oh okay, yes, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It's not a question, but it is an observation. I
don't know if either of you made it, but I
hope that everyone noticed. Rarely do I see this, but
this was a very clearly to me almost a fake
restaurant with fake diners that were a little too close
to the table, and they were paid extras. And then
(24:19):
the restaurant looked like a pop up fake. It looked
like some restaurant woar shit with a paper menu and
the other two tables so close by. I couldn't take
my eyes off the extras like I do in a
movie and a fake, fake menus.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And then the waiter was hilarious. He was like this,
Oh my god, yeah, I know. He was so jazz.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Y, and I just thought that was the fakest restaurant
I ever saw. And for as intense as that conversation was,
I was like, why didn't Art department space these tables
out a little?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I think you're right, and even if it is a
real restaurant, they staged the whole thing. And Jamie, that's
not the first time I've seen that on Salt Lake City,
whereas other cities I haven't necessarily seen that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I saw it. The one that was really glaring to
me was the Jury Garcel outdoor brunch or breakfast at
a golf course and literally, Jamie, you could see the
camera guys were the fill ins at the table because
they didn't take.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Off their racks, their beards and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like kyas and their black hoodies.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Golf their shirts. Bravo.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Everybody knows I do big things.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Big things. That coat was like David Burns, Oh my god.
Bronwin's like, yes, am I the most important go No
not Bronwins. LIS's huge was wearing this gigantic.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Was it the trench? Was it the trench?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was a trench, but it huge like inspector gadget
mid inflating the parachute. It was like a huge shoulder pads.
It was wild.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That was amazing. That was amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Inside of that coat were her two sons and the
shoulder pads.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like Anna Anna pop from.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So yeah they have that lunch and and Heather's like, yeah,
you were part of that trip and everyone was doing
you know, bron went about the business about your businesses,
and she was trying to annw annihilate you. I loved
in her confessional and when she was talking to Heather,
she was like, ooh, what are you going to do
about these dismissed cases. Oh you've been so naughty A
(26:52):
dismissed cases. Dismissed it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Don't come to the bottom, you suit at the top.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I thought Heather fully misrepresented everything that went down.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Especially poor Meredith. Meredith.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I didn't even mention Brittani.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
That could have gotten edited out, but you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
The whole thing was Britney sticking up for Lisa.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
The whole thing was Heather brought it up.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Oh yeah, right, so he never does. Heather loves to
throw the rock and hide her hand. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So I was like, you can't be listening to just
this Lisa, but Lisa will.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Everybody knows I do big things.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I did like that Lisa was like, I live a
different light than you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You're all people, and I'm an alien.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Like it was funny how she was trying to distinguish
her from not being a part of the human race.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It was like, uh, we're all on this show.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, all he has beauty, ultimillion dollar business with multiple chains.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I mean, okay, lead a tequila.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We're different, we're different.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I have a company and you have a company.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is not my different life, this is not my
different lawsuits. And the day's going by. Come in.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's so good, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And then of course yeah, when she was asking, did
anybody defend me? And then and Heather's like, not a one,
not even and she's like.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Huh, arying, corying, tears ry coming down.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And then and then she was just like, I ripped
my life apart for everything, and then for my brand
to be ripped apart.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It just was like that's Housewives.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like yet you go on this show and everything that
you have given your life to and it's going to
be ripped to shreds. And by god, did Bronwin rip
it down? At that Utah socialite whose name is Amy
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Speaker 5 (31:29):
How excited are we for next week where she makes
those beautiful poster boards.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh my god, gorgeous, Yes, gorgeous. It reminds me of
Kenya's so good, so detailed, and they're not even blurred
this time.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
No, they're not blurred. She's the best picture of herself.
And then the just all the different angles on.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
The dismissed, dismiss dismiss very, you know, with her court cases.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
You know, you guys might not agree with I don't
even really I'm not that interested. I don't think there's
a real smoking gun here. I don't care. Like I
think that bron Win is so pissed about that necklace,
which was a Juicys thing that happened that. You know,
So Lisa has some dismissed cases. They're dismissed for a reason.
I could sue, they're not all dismissed.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh well, Lisa had said one is almost dismissed.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So there are.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Five, right, So of the five, I think as we're watching,
maybe two or three of them are going to go away.
But like at the end of the day, I think,
I'm like, well, she said that she was going to
pay this person back a lot of money, and they
gave her the money, so I guess that to that point,
(32:46):
I'm like, we'll pay the person back then. Yeah, that's
where I am.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, I agree, but I said that that there's no
jen Shaw level of a case.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, that was terrible when Angie said that.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So when we're at the when we're at the Saturday
social party, when is Brittany comes up to Lisa and says,
Angie compared you to Jen Shaw, so immediately just boom,
and she had to have been stunned.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Obviously, Heather admit that from their lunch also did you notice,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well because Angie. I think Angie really in that moment
said it, regret it? What is it?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Say it? Say it?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Forget it?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Right it reget it, regret it. I think Heather and
her friendship to Angie was like, I'm not even going
to bring that up. They're probably going to edit that out.
I'm not even gonna say that it was insane. Angie
thought it was insane, right, and obviously it's like hilarious
that Proa was like say that, no matter what, get that.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's a big insight.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
And I'm glad that she told her because that is
something to be very upset about.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, it's worse than she thought.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
So then when Lisa goes to confront Angie, she can't
even confront this gal because Bronwin is so digging for
some camera time that it was ridiculous. Now that dress
is Christian Seriano that she was wearing, which was amazing
last night, and she wore when last night on Watch
What Happens, and Christian was in the Opra seat in
(34:30):
the audience, and you know what.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He said, what, Bronwin always pays for her dresses. M
because remember he said it maybe a year or so ago.
I don't trust housewives because they never pay. Yes, I
do remember that, yeah, yes, And Andy said this, Bronwin
paid for it. He's like, always, she always does. And
then Andy said something like is she going to pay
(34:53):
for the one she's wearing tonight or is it a gift?
He's like, and she said, no, I'm going to pay
for it, and then I forget you. The their guest
is she's in the movie Strangers Too, coming out this weekend,
but he said she can have it for free though.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's hilarious, Okay, So then Lisa and Angie are She's like,
oh yeah, Angie said, well, Brown's bringing their jockey mention,
She's bringing the information show. And then immediately that's all
she can say. So ang she was going to stand
her ground on calling her Genshaw. So that's all we
needed to know. So, you know, to your point about
(35:31):
her regretting it, no, she didn't instantly didn't instantly doubling
down instantly.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Girls smile too, like the whole time, that whole fight,
all of them had that Chester cat grin while bron
wella Lisa's fighting for her fucking life.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, it was such a I mean it was a
gang up. I mean, here's the thing. It is a
takedown of Lisa. They all are accusing her clearly of
she digs up things. So now it's her time. Now
you guys agree with that because Whitney seems to think
that's true. Angie and Bronwyn.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The fact that she used gout dick as a slam.
It was clearly Bronwyn had told her at some point
that Todd got gout in his dick, and then this
is like filing through her. Yeah, a little file cabinet
brain and throws that at her.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, there was no crazy. She didn't make that up
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
And I don't think he has gout dick. I think
he had gout because I looked it up. Gout If
he is a thing, gout, you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Can't get out in your dick.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
But can you get it? Is it a sexually transmitted disease? No? No,
if you get it from me to to cheat and
he's been known to cheat. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Allegedly somebody emotional eating those were those were email emotional sauces.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Sauces.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
His dick is crystallizing from emotional.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Heavy But break it down, Okay, how can you get
out in your dick? And how does it form?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, it's crystallizing. I don't want to like you usually
get it in your foot, but in the so, I
don't know. I don't know how it goes down and
a penis.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Maybe his dick is so big it turned into his foot.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Maybe hey, you know they call it third leg. Okay,
all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
What is Starbucks mugs? By the way, when they cut
to Bronwyn and her daughter and son cooking in the kitchen,
when she was like, I don't want my daughter to leave,
so I moved in her boyfriend, there was a wall
of Todd's star Yeah. Yes, I was like, there they
are anyway. I just wrote can you get gout in
(38:04):
your penis? And it was like, yes you can. And
it's like when when you get it, I know, in
your foot, you get it in your joints and it's
a crystallization. It's it's like an acid build up or
something like that. I don't know, I'm making that part up,
but I'm assuming that's what would happen. But it's crystallizing,
and that's what's really painful.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
My god, Well, then you get it, and then you
get from a blowjob on a painful gout dick.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Maybe if you just leave it alone.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Too much, I don't care. But it was called the
rich man's disease because you used to get it from
eating like really like rich foods, like heavy creams and
sauces and that kind of thing, like.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Dick. I love gout cream.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I love gout cream.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
That's I'm not afraid to say it. I love gout cream.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I did love that. When Lisa was like, you suck
dick for clothes and and all, I mean, she's like,
I love sucking dick, I was like, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
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Speaker 4 (40:35):
And why do.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
These Salt Lake City gals always go to Sucking D
Like it was sucking D for jazz tickets?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
It was like always sucking D. It's always that it's
not to go to Mormons.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's a fleck and sucond dick.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They're all crazy more.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
They're like that sucking dick is like not what it
is to us in the real world.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Playing a taboo.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
There, right, it's a taboo.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Well, Bronwin was like, I'm the one who brought it up,
so we should hash it out. And Lisa was like,
I don't want to talk to you. You're dismissed. She's loitering.
I love an accusation of loitering.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I thought that was great.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
That was really really good.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
So now they're getting Broun was like, you're the only
one who borrows money behind their husband's back. So there's
an accusation here that she borrowed money from this mystery person.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Right in the legal it's in the papers that were
published in the newspaper, in the court documents. That's the
problem that she was using this person's amex. They released
all the u in the discovery or whatever. You can
see that she's saying, please don't tell Todd or I mean,
please don't tell Todd. Please don't tell John. Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
She was like, please don't tell Todd.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Either, Please don't tell Todd or John Ord Jouton. Yeah.
So what I think that's what was irritating to me
is that like Bronwyin wasn't saying anything that was not
fully public and signed off by like a publication, a
well respected publication. Also, these are court documents, but it
(42:23):
was out there. She didn't dig go digging or asking.
It was for anything.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Gout there if you.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Will, scout there man.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
But you know, I have.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
To say, Wow, Bronwyn is going so hard on Lisa,
and I don't understand one hundred percent why going so
hard at her?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Is it like.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's our kid? I think because it's a jewelry thing
and it's the ex father of her daughter that Lisa
went Is there's something with that family of the deceased fiance.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Lisa's friends with the grandma of the daughter.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, there's something going on with that and the daughter
and that fan.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
So I don't know, okay, and I yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Can I say too that that you know, these these.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Beefs run deep.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
So the minute that article is published, Bronwen probably was like,
I'm gonna ride this for the first six episodes.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Baby, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Well, we know she would be premeditative about it because
of the necklace situation.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I mean, that's also what I think.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think that I think Lisa's had three strikes with
Bronwan or two strikes, and they were just huge, huge strikes,
especially the one with her daughter.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But like what about the w g A strike. Oh
here we yes, America strike. That's really important.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
But it's not like Lisa's ever ever ever, like Whitney.
Whitney is playing this saying fucking brilliant, yep, I'm bankrupt.
My life fucking sucks. We made mistakes. I don't know
what the hell tomorrow is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
That makes good TV. That makes for good TV.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Lisa's like, none of this is happening, right, So of course,
ye would you have to say are you crazy? Like yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Or happened, because she's saying these are old cases. So
in a way, she's saying like this is what Bronwin's
argument was, which is that these are things from the past.
That doesn't mean that it didn't happen. And even still,
to everyone's point, there is still apparently one case at
least that Lisa's admitting has not officially been dismissed, at
(44:43):
least at the time of the airing of this so
or at least the time of filming it. So what
is really going on now? I haven't listened to a
lot of the Bravo Dockets podcasts just because of time factors,
but I do love them, and I would really like
to know the brass tacks about this because I want
to believe a lot of what Lisa's defense is, which
is that you know, there is one smoking gun, and
(45:05):
that is this whole money, and she hasn't paid this
guy back. Okay, So there's that. I it sounds like
that's very true. The other stuff. People do sue all
the time, and especially I don't know if they were
suing her or company before she was on the Housewives,
But the second someone becomes a housewife and or you
(45:26):
have any fame, people are coming at you from that
lady suit.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Her for like twenty million dollars, as she said Cardie
B pushed her in the lobby.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
You know, you can sue anyone.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, true. So I just think that the the what
is it, the Salt Lake City Tribute Bune. Yeah, they
I don't think like they're going I mean that article
was pretty substantial and they did investigate a lot of
(45:57):
what was going on there.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So I mean it's like want like the La It's
like the La Times Tom Girardi article, you know.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
And Emily subscribes to the Tribune Solid City, unrelated to
the show. It's just her favorite publication. She's always sending me,
you guys the.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Select.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
She also has to pay extra for that cooking one.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, treatment plan, and I'm really excited about it. Just outside,
can I can?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I fitted a moment to the party? How that home?
And how great is.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
What? What happened? What happened?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
She couldn't pivot, She can't pitot.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
I have a hard time turning in real life. I'm
very clumsy. I don't want to twist my knee. I
don't want to twist my knee. How great was that
little those champagnes popping out of the and.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I love Steth It's a glory whole champagne.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
That was the faked description of that. It was shocking
and disturbing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
God, how.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
How about yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Oh go ahead, go ahead, gi about seth Because I.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Set in the other room being like, so do you
or do you not? Love Brittany? Check this box and
Jared was like, do.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
That is a doomed relationship. I've said it from the beginning.
Why can't you say you love your fiance without looking
like you're being interrogated for the murder of a person?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Like he is?
Speaker 5 (47:34):
He he does not love her? That is a sham
ass relationship.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Sham ass. He's a sham as you love her, He's like,
I love her?
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Is in the you know, I was in love and
of course there is a love is many splendord things.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Seth and I don't you know what? What do you
love your wife?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah I do, and we're practically divorced. I mean I
can say it. I'm seeing someone in Ohio. I mean,
but I love her.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
The fact again that.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
You know an Osmond is a hot ticket and she's
like I snagged him.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
I'm like, you two are criminally insane.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yeah, all right? What else about that party?
Speaker 5 (48:19):
I just love how there's always a party and everyone's like,
what's going on over there? It's like, you know, imagine
you're a real person, okay, and you go to a
party like that and you see them fighting, You're like, god,
this is all for TV. But actually it was a
very well, well needed argument, but like, if you don't
care about the show, you're like, look at this, this
is bullshit. Look at Amy invited those housewives and look
(48:41):
at them over there fighting, And then they always just
show a million reactions shots of people going.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
There.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
And that was a real party.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That was impressive because typically, you know, we're so sick
of the Housewives parties. You've like seven people there and
five of them are housewives.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So it's just like a mark out dicks.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
So it was really nice to actually go to a
party that was a real party from a socialite that
is not that is not on the Housewives.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
But yeah, yeah, exactly, she's she's on her way.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
We're getting groomed by any social art right now.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I did like Bron wins when Lisa said you should
go to school and Ron was like, you should go
to work.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Whow all I do is work out? Dare you?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
All I could imagine is like John Oliver watching last
night's episode and like the second gout Dick came up
and be like, oh you serious?
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yes, chanting? Well, anything else left to say about this?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
Great second episode, very excited for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Good So does they say.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
All right, anything else, I think we have us covered. Guys,
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Speaker 2 (50:27):
Oh. Bronwyn was completely right on what she was saying.
I'm not saying Bronwin doesn't have skeletons in her closet.
I couldn't believe Lisa didn't seem to bring any of
those up. But Bronwyn was like fully could stand in
it because she because of that dress.
Drama, Darling.
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Okay, on over, I love that from Nantucket.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Wait, there once was a housewife about you said you
sucks dick out. I don't know is that it wrong?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
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you have a limerick before we begin?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Once was a houselife from Salt Lake City, Dave Angie,
and she said, you're like Jen Shaw.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Can you blame me?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I said, it's time to buy your tickets for the
hard Rock Cafe for cabaret me.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh my gosh, great job you guys. All right, well,
let's welcome ourselves into Salt Lake City. You know these ladies,
they are so savage, They are so savage, they go
for it so fast. We are like episode two, We've
(02:50):
already had a cast trip. We were now landing hard
hard in Salt Lake City and also to clear something up, Emily,
you have the facts there in front of you. Last week,
I made a great presumption which turned out to be wrong.
My presumption for the reason that Lisa wasn't on the
(03:14):
cast trip was because she found out there was going
to it was gonna be an RV camping trip, and
there was no way she was going to do that
because we know how she is with glam and she
does not compromise with her surroundings. However, I was wrong, Emily,
please state the fact.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, the Darlings shout out to some of the Darlings,
including Allison, who were like, hey, you guys covered this
in news. Lisa wasn't there because in serving dish you
told us that she wasn't filming at the beginning of
the season because she was in contract disputes with Bravo.
(03:53):
So that's why she wasn't on the campaigns.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Where we don't remember anything, we say, you know what,
thank you. At least the darlings are listening.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I can't. I have to say, like I, it's
in one ear and out the other sometimes on this
because stuff changes so fast and Bravo like you can't
retain at all, and I will say one thing that
I did retain and fully forgot about was that remember
last year at the end of Salt Lake City, at
(04:30):
the reunion, there were all these memes and like cold
like there was just like some like detail about something
being about a divorce or like next reunion all these people.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh yeah, and we were thinking it was Justin Whitney. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, just that like it dawned on me that here
we are in the next season, and I wonder if
that all got resolved behind closed doors in terms of
whatever that was going to be, because it was thought
that it was going to be Justin and Whitney at
that reunion, right, people were clarifying, no, it's not Meredith
and Seth or it.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Could have been just a rumor. Oh totally of those
blind items are well.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Actually, to your point about Whitney and Justin, they could
have been on the fritz because of all their money issues.
We know that her business has filled and she was
there was a failure, and we know that maybe their
marriage was going to fell. So we don't know, but
you know, hopefully so I went.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Real quick though, now you hear John could be having
some cracks in his Now that we know Lisa had
these secret mxes. And I have heard amongst the grapevine
that Meredith and Seth are currently having some trouble in
real life, and that perhaps Meredith has been suspended.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
From what oh I've heard yeah, yeah, remember.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
From her membership to La Fitness. It's am.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I never wipe down the machines. I refuse, And so
they said to me, please leave, suspended from from the show.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, don't you There was a they're not this trip,
but there's a girl's trip coming up that made the
news about Meredith like leaving.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
To Google Google, Go go google leg google leg go
go go go, go.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Go leg serving.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I am almost very certain, that's how certain, Almost very certain.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Why would she get because I think she pops off
on somebody, and that there is a rumor that perhaps
sets as a mistress.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I did read that.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I did read that a pop off at the reunion
and she says something or perhaps does something that causes
her a bit of trouble.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
All right, well what a weak okay, relegedly religiously. So
let's let's get back to the campsite where we're cooking steaks.
You know, we are cooking shakes. We're cooking baking, and
Bronwin is just like, I don't know, I don't know
how to cookies.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
You're right to fear for your life, you know. I
love that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I love that they saw animals across the river. That
was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Loved that whole scene was great.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It was I also really enjoyed seeing how they're not
be able to spit because of botox.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I didn't know. I mean, obviously that does make sense,
but like, yikes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, now here's my question. Do we think that they
slept in that RV because they all woke up in
full glam?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I yeah, you're right, they were all at full right.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Up there, and then they had someone come in and
glam them out.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Maybe you know how they like they probably brought like
five other you know, like movie set RVs and had
him on the other side and pop. So it's not
a lie they did sleep in an RV.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Perhaps I just thought the glam. The glam was the
big reveal. Like I was like, okay, you just showed
your hand there, everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well we get around the breakfast
fire and we are talking about the kids, so obviously
everyone's sharing. Heather, Bronwyn and Mary Whitney kind of chimed
in really on the heels of Bronwen It seemed, you know,
as Bronwyn and Heather later did make up, I would
(08:53):
love to get you know, our takes on how Bronwyn
presented her response back to Heather after or she shared
about how like it was she's been in fight or
flight ever since her divorce with her husband, and she
was raising the kids all by herself. Essentially, he would
just come in and, like, you know, do fun things
and then leave. He never had custody of the kids.
(09:15):
It was just quick dad visits, visits, and she has
been gritting her teeth the entire time, and she's exhausted.
So her kids going off to school is it's not
that she's not going to miss them, it's that it's
like she can finally take a little bit of a
breath now. When Bronwynn shares that she has the opposite
(09:36):
experience that she's like, I just can't get enough of
my daughter and I'm gonna move her her boyfriend Anna,
and I'm mother him and go back to breastfeeding. Like
I honestly did feel like I agree with Heather when
she confronted her and she was like, you don't present
things in the right way. She one hundred percent didn't
present it in the right way. And then she tries
to back up and say like, that's not what I'm saying.
(09:59):
I'm trying to say. I suppose it's like, no, you
didn't say that at all. Actually you did make it
look like she's a bad mom for wanting your kids
to go away and you can't get enough of mothering.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean, is that what you guys got.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm hearing you.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I also got a taste of Heather says what she
has to say, and Brownman goes, well, now I want
to have some attention, Like it almost was less of
a dig, and we're just like I want to talk now,
and I here that what I'm saying does it really
fit or makes sense?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right? Right? I disagree with both of you, Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
When she said what she meant, when she said what
she meant at the lunch, I was like, that totally
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I was like Heather in the moment, I was like,
what Heather said was such a unique take to that
time in someone's life that it was really interesting to me.
And I thought everybody was sharing, and I actually thought
what Bronwin was saying was like kind of she she wishes,
(11:05):
she wished that she had more of what Heather had
in terms of like, I thought what Bronwan was saying
is like I'm really going through it, whereas Heather was like,
I am ready to be done with this chapter and
Braun was like, give me some of that. That's how
I read it, And so when Heather was saying that,
I was like, when Heather got defensive, I was like,
(11:25):
I didn't get that vibe at all from what Bronwan
was saying.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Three interesting takes here, ladies, and I think all there
there may be some truth within each. I'd love to
hear also what the darlings saying, because because what he
just suddenly makes a lot of sense. So I don't
think any of us are wrong. I of course at
most right as usual, well imte Emily, I of course
I am most right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But yeah, that's interesting too.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
But you know, yours and mind bleed kind of together,
which is that Bronwin wanted some attention in that moment though.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, but I think that Bronwyn cleared it up at
that lunch that actually did make sense. I just don't
think that she said it the right way. And I
think Heather's point that like she doesn't present things the
way that maybe she means to, and it's a little
bit of word salad. So I think that Bronwyn just
needs to work on making a little more sense with
(12:18):
her point because it was missed on me. And and
it was kind of sad because when Bronwin said at
the lunch she was like, no, I was saying, like,
I've been a really bad mom and I'm trying to
make up for that, whereas Heather's like, I've been such
in a way I mean not, She's been such a
great mom and so hands on that it's time for
her to like move on to the next chapter. But
(12:39):
I also would say to Bronwen, like, you haven't been
a bad mom, like it's you know, it's I think
their experiences are just so different. But and then the
next person who said something was Whitney, who was like,
I'm I'm you know, I'm going get through the reverse.
I wish I could be home a stay at home
mom again. And I was like, again, it was like
another a lie little bit that was honest for her,
(13:01):
and I actually really appreciate that, but it did feel
like two people kind of going against Heather at the
same time, and I was like, this is just at
the end of the day, after hearing what Bronwin had
to say, I'm like, this is just utter miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And I felt bad for Heather, But.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Wow, I really was so frustrating me at the lunch too.
I was like, I I thought, like what Bronwin said
about Lisa, like, Heather, you Lisa's word salad. You talk
about someone that can't make a point quickly or oh.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Unwatched What Happens Live they did a poll on who
has the most word salad and and Lisa won that pole.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I mean, I just thought that was really unfair
of Heather to be like, you have to speak exactly
this way to meet Bronwyn or else.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, her point was lost on me too, so I'm
gonna I co sign with her. But let's talk about
Whitney says, when we merged wild Rose with another business venture,
we were really successful at first, and then you know
it all failed. But now I can't stay at home
because now have to figure out a way to make money.
(14:07):
So you know, this whole thing about remember how we
were talking about last week about her business being wild Rose,
and it merged into like they tried the MLM thing
and then there was a TikTok thing and they keep
flashing that up about MLM MLM and so it really
must have screwed everything up for her.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh yeah, she's really down. I don't think necessarily that
the bad press it didn't help. But I think what
was also happening is like with all of those MLMs,
the initial bump is big. It's sustaining that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's really hard.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So cause it's got you got a friend of a
friend and then that friend and so it's like it's
hard to sustain that. And that's I think also what
she was it was two different things not working for her.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right, Yeah, that's probably right. Yeah, well I'm married.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That MLM stands for Men Love Moyer.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I I didn't know that. I knew that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It isn't a scam.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's a fact and it's not Yeah, it's not a
pyramid scheme. It's a pyramid that you make and like
cheerleading to create to create the letter M Okay, so queen, yes, queen, darlings,
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(17:19):
good days and bad days. And this is where I
loved hearing from Mary and her accolades of Heather, because
Heather wasn't really getting what she needed from a fire,
like from anybody, it just wasn't working right. And for
Mary to say, I take my hat off to any
mom that raised three kids by themselves. You should automatically
feel some type of accomplishment because I only have one
(17:41):
and I couldn't have done it with Robert SR.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
And honestly out No, that was actually a Fridian slip.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Robert Sr.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Was not around very much, so it's funny that she's like,
I couldn't have done it without Robert Senior. I'm like,
remember those early episodes. I'm like, where is he? He's
at one of the eight other houses happening, right.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Maybe he was there earlier, Maybe he was there more
when he was younger, when Robert Jr.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Was young and Mary are a team and a frankly
one of the most heartbreaking storylines of all of Housewives history.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
To see that scene, yeah, I mean her ability to
like pull back and not control and not come down
on him when she found out. Do you think that
was her finding out for the first time when he
said that he's been looking for stimuli from other sources.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Do you think it was the first time she heard.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know, because the last of the intervention that
they kind of had not a legit like every like
an intervention as.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
That was real.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That was the she they had talked about doing it.
She and Robert Junior off camera, right, So what we
saw was real of them talking through it. But she
said that she didn't realize how bad it was. So
they were on camera, so I can see that being real.
I will say, I don't know if I need to
see Robert Junior's whole journey on camera, because for his
(19:12):
mental health, I don't want him to feel like he's
got the nation to be accountable for. I feel like
that's a heavy burden as a recovering addict to be like,
oh fuck, like, yeah, I'm going to run into the
strangers and they're going to be asking me about my recovery.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, I think he needed to speak to the fact
that he wasn't completely sober. Though I doubt we'll see
him again, I think it was pretty important for him
to come on camera and be like, explain where he is.
It's one step at a time and one day at
a time, and yes, I've been you know, I'm not
completely sober right now. And I think he probably wanted
(19:50):
to get that off his chest so he doesn't have
as much pressure. And I'm glad he did, because, like
you said, people are going to be asking and they're
gonna be like, oh my god, you're such an inspiration,
like what you did, and if he's not sober, how's
he supposed to take that? So for him to like
tell everybody. Hey, look, you know, like I'm here, just
step off. I think was probably smart thing to do.
(20:12):
And you're right, I hope we don't like have to
see him again. I think it should be private from
here on out. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I just love their relationship, and I think that it
was so sad when he just doesn't have any friends
and they are best friends. And you know, when you
give up drugs and alcohol, there's you lose friends, of course,
as he's saying, but also like he just he seems
to be like a really smart kid, and he feels
(20:39):
a lot and a lot of people I've known who
have a problem with drugs and alcohol some of it
just stems from their their heart is so they're so
empathetic and everything hurts them and in the world, and
so they do drugs just like turn off their heart
wrenching reactions to every waking moment.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He gives me that vibe too.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And and like I just I just, uh, that whole
relationship just breaks my heart. And like I think they're
so close and they were such a team when he
was growing up, and and uh, you know he's smoking weed.
I don't know, and where's his wife? That's what the
guy was saying, where the hell's that wife of his member?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I hope that they're not together anymore, because if
she didn't get sober, I think I I think, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Hear that she was?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
And then I heard that she wasn't so.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And then we know a few weeks ago, some ship
went down with Robert Jr. In real time. Oh, that
was on the news. There was like an arrest.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think, yeah, I think he was caught with all Right,
so let's get into let's go back to the campfire.
And I just want to say one more thing about Heather.
When Mary said I take my hat off to raising
three kids, Like, honestly, there's not a day that goes
(22:07):
by where I don't think about people who have more
than one child and think about people who are the
only parent raising that child and.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
How hard it is.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Like I honestly think about it all the time, and
I'm like, I don't know how these people are doing it.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I don't know how they're doing it. I don't know
how they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because it's just so challenging and so for so, I
really was happy that Mary gave one flowers.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Oh, I think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Anybody that has one child you, Oh, thank you about
this at all? Me either. I was locked in on
Heather's sunglasses, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I like that on our cheek bones. I was like, oh,
I think she's had some removed from.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Her Oh the buckle buckle. Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Her plastic surgery is excellent. I will say, she looks
very good to me.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah, okay, so they pushed the RV surgery.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's when they take all the tortolini out of your
cheeks that you've been storing since the last uh party.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I love that they got out of the r V
except from Mary, and they pushed that thing.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I was like, don't like spin the wheels. Don't spin
the wheels. You're gonna get deeper and deeper. But they
got it was a.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Bit of a wild card. Remember when he like the
reil on the whee up there, He's like, oops, the doopsies?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You really did?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So, so Lisa and Heather lunch and obviously Heather's like,
and here's the tea, and she's like, tells on as
she tells on bron Win about what she said at
the at the RV trip, tells on Angie tells on everybody.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Sorry, I was reading. Oh okay, yes, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It's not a question, but it is an observation. I
don't know if either of you made it, but I
hope that everyone noticed. Rarely do I see this, but
this was a very clearly to me almost a fake
restaurant with fake diners that were a little too close
to the table, and they were paid extras. And then
(24:19):
the restaurant looked like a pop up fake. It looked
like some restaurant woar shit with a paper menu and
the other two tables so close by. I couldn't take
my eyes off the extras like I do in a
movie and a fake, fake menus.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And then the waiter was hilarious. He was like this,
Oh my god, yeah, I know. He was so jazz.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Y, and I just thought that was the fakest restaurant
I ever saw. And for as intense as that conversation was,
I was like, why didn't Art department space these tables
out a little?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I think you're right, and even if it is a
real restaurant, they staged the whole thing. And Jamie, that's
not the first time I've seen that on Salt Lake City,
whereas other cities I haven't necessarily seen that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I saw it. The one that was really glaring to
me was the Jury Garcel outdoor brunch or breakfast at
a golf course and literally, Jamie, you could see the
camera guys were the fill ins at the table because
they didn't take.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Off their racks, their beards and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like kyas and their black hoodies.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Golf their shirts. Bravo.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Everybody knows I do big things.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Big things. That coat was like David Burns, Oh my god.
Bronwin's like, yes, am I the most important go No
not Bronwins. LIS's huge was wearing this gigantic.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Was it the trench? Was it the trench?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was a trench, but it huge like inspector gadget
mid inflating the parachute. It was like a huge shoulder pads.
It was wild.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That was amazing. That was amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Inside of that coat were her two sons and the
shoulder pads.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like Anna Anna pop from.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So yeah they have that lunch and and Heather's like, yeah,
you were part of that trip and everyone was doing
you know, bron went about the business about your businesses,
and she was trying to annw annihilate you. I loved
in her confessional and when she was talking to Heather,
she was like, ooh, what are you going to do
about these dismissed cases. Oh you've been so naughty A
(26:52):
dismissed cases. Dismissed it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Don't come to the bottom, you suit at the top.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I thought Heather fully misrepresented everything that went down.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Especially poor Meredith. Meredith.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I didn't even mention Brittani.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
That could have gotten edited out, but you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
The whole thing was Britney sticking up for Lisa.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
The whole thing was Heather brought it up.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Oh yeah, right, so he never does. Heather loves to
throw the rock and hide her hand. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So I was like, you can't be listening to just
this Lisa, but Lisa will.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Everybody knows I do big things.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I did like that Lisa was like, I live a
different light than you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You're all people, and I'm an alien.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Like it was funny how she was trying to distinguish
her from not being a part of the human race.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It was like, uh, we're all on this show.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, all he has beauty, ultimillion dollar business with multiple chains.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I mean, okay, lead a tequila.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We're different, we're different.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I have a company and you have a company.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is not my different life, this is not my
different lawsuits. And the day's going by. Come in.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's so good, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And then of course yeah, when she was asking, did
anybody defend me? And then and Heather's like, not a one,
not even and she's like.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Huh, arying, corying, tears ry coming down.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
And then and then she was just like, I ripped
my life apart for everything, and then for my brand
to be ripped apart.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It just was like that's Housewives.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Like yet you go on this show and everything that
you have given your life to and it's going to
be ripped to shreds. And by god, did Bronwin rip
it down? At that Utah socialite whose name is Amy
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Speaker 5 (31:29):
How excited are we for next week where she makes
those beautiful poster boards.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh my god, gorgeous, Yes, gorgeous. It reminds me of
Kenya's so good, so detailed, and they're not even blurred
this time.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
No, they're not blurred. She's the best picture of herself.
And then the just all the different angles on.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
The dismissed, dismiss dismiss very, you know, with her court cases.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
You know, you guys might not agree with I don't
even really I'm not that interested. I don't think there's
a real smoking gun here. I don't care. Like I
think that bron Win is so pissed about that necklace,
which was a Juicys thing that happened that. You know,
So Lisa has some dismissed cases. They're dismissed for a reason.
I could sue, they're not all dismissed.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh well, Lisa had said one is almost dismissed.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So there are.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Five, right, So of the five, I think as we're watching,
maybe two or three of them are going to go away.
But like at the end of the day, I think,
I'm like, well, she said that she was going to
pay this person back a lot of money, and they
gave her the money, so I guess that to that point,
(32:46):
I'm like, we'll pay the person back then. Yeah, that's
where I am.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, I agree, but I said that that there's no
jen Shaw level of a case.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, that was terrible when Angie said that.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So when we're at the when we're at the Saturday
social party, when is Brittany comes up to Lisa and says,
Angie compared you to Jen Shaw, so immediately just boom,
and she had to have been stunned.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Obviously, Heather admit that from their lunch also did you notice,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well because Angie. I think Angie really in that moment
said it, regret it? What is it?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Say it? Say it?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Forget it?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Right it reget it, regret it. I think Heather and
her friendship to Angie was like, I'm not even going
to bring that up. They're probably going to edit that out.
I'm not even gonna say that it was insane. Angie
thought it was insane, right, and obviously it's like hilarious
that Proa was like say that, no matter what, get that.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's a big insight.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
And I'm glad that she told her because that is
something to be very upset about.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, it's worse than she thought.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
So then when Lisa goes to confront Angie, she can't
even confront this gal because Bronwin is so digging for
some camera time that it was ridiculous. Now that dress
is Christian Seriano that she was wearing, which was amazing
last night, and she wore when last night on Watch
What Happens, and Christian was in the Opra seat in
(34:30):
the audience, and you know what.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He said, what, Bronwin always pays for her dresses. M
because remember he said it maybe a year or so ago.
I don't trust housewives because they never pay. Yes, I
do remember that, yeah, yes, And Andy said this, Bronwin
paid for it. He's like, always, she always does. And
then Andy said something like is she going to pay
(34:53):
for the one she's wearing tonight or is it a gift?
He's like, and she said, no, I'm going to pay
for it, and then I forget you. The their guest
is she's in the movie Strangers Too, coming out this weekend,
but he said she can have it for free though.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's hilarious, Okay, So then Lisa and Angie are She's like,
oh yeah, Angie said, well, Brown's bringing their jockey mention,
She's bringing the information show. And then immediately that's all
she can say. So ang she was going to stand
her ground on calling her Genshaw. So that's all we
needed to know. So, you know, to your point about
(35:31):
her regretting it, no, she didn't instantly didn't instantly doubling
down instantly.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Girls smile too, like the whole time, that whole fight,
all of them had that Chester cat grin while bron
wella Lisa's fighting for her fucking life.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, it was such a I mean it was a
gang up. I mean, here's the thing. It is a
takedown of Lisa. They all are accusing her clearly of
she digs up things. So now it's her time. Now
you guys agree with that because Whitney seems to think
that's true. Angie and Bronwyn.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The fact that she used gout dick as a slam.
It was clearly Bronwyn had told her at some point
that Todd got gout in his dick, and then this
is like filing through her. Yeah, a little file cabinet
brain and throws that at her.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, there was no crazy. She didn't make that up
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
And I don't think he has gout dick. I think
he had gout because I looked it up. Gout If
he is a thing, gout, you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Can't get out in your dick.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
But can you get it? Is it a sexually transmitted disease? No? No,
if you get it from me to to cheat and
he's been known to cheat. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Allegedly somebody emotional eating those were those were email emotional sauces.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Sauces.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
His dick is crystallizing from emotional.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Heavy But break it down, Okay, how can you get
out in your dick? And how does it form?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, it's crystallizing. I don't want to like you usually
get it in your foot, but in the so, I
don't know. I don't know how it goes down and
a penis.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Maybe his dick is so big it turned into his foot.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Maybe hey, you know they call it third leg. Okay,
all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
What is Starbucks mugs? By the way, when they cut
to Bronwyn and her daughter and son cooking in the kitchen,
when she was like, I don't want my daughter to leave,
so I moved in her boyfriend, there was a wall
of Todd's star Yeah. Yes, I was like, there they
are anyway. I just wrote can you get gout in
(38:04):
your penis? And it was like, yes you can. And
it's like when when you get it, I know, in
your foot, you get it in your joints and it's
a crystallization. It's it's like an acid build up or
something like that. I don't know, I'm making that part up,
but I'm assuming that's what would happen. But it's crystallizing,
and that's what's really painful.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
My god, Well, then you get it, and then you
get from a blowjob on a painful gout dick.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Maybe if you just leave it alone.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Too much, I don't care. But it was called the
rich man's disease because you used to get it from
eating like really like rich foods, like heavy creams and
sauces and that kind of thing, like.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Dick. I love gout cream.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I love gout cream.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
That's I'm not afraid to say it. I love gout cream.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I did love that. When Lisa was like, you suck
dick for clothes and and all, I mean, she's like,
I love sucking dick, I was like, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
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Speaker 4 (40:35):
And why do.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
These Salt Lake City gals always go to Sucking D
Like it was sucking D for jazz tickets?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
It was like always sucking D. It's always that it's
not to go to Mormons.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's a fleck and sucond dick.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They're all crazy more.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
They're like that sucking dick is like not what it
is to us in the real world.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Playing a taboo.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
There, right, it's a taboo.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Well, Bronwin was like, I'm the one who brought it up,
so we should hash it out. And Lisa was like,
I don't want to talk to you. You're dismissed. She's loitering.
I love an accusation of loitering.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I thought that was great.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
That was really really good.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
So now they're getting Broun was like, you're the only
one who borrows money behind their husband's back. So there's
an accusation here that she borrowed money from this mystery person.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Right in the legal it's in the papers that were
published in the newspaper, in the court documents. That's the
problem that she was using this person's amex. They released
all the u in the discovery or whatever. You can
see that she's saying, please don't tell Todd or I mean,
please don't tell Todd. Please don't tell John. Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
She was like, please don't tell Todd.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Either, Please don't tell Todd or John Ord Jouton. Yeah.
So what I think that's what was irritating to me
is that like Bronwyin wasn't saying anything that was not
fully public and signed off by like a publication, a
well respected publication. Also, these are court documents, but it
(42:23):
was out there. She didn't dig go digging or asking.
It was for anything.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Gout there if you.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Will, scout there man.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
But you know, I have.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
To say, Wow, Bronwyn is going so hard on Lisa,
and I don't understand one hundred percent why going so
hard at her?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Is it like.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's our kid? I think because it's a jewelry thing
and it's the ex father of her daughter that Lisa
went Is there's something with that family of the deceased fiance.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Lisa's friends with the grandma of the daughter.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, there's something going on with that and the daughter
and that fan.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
So I don't know, okay, and I yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Can I say too that that you know, these these.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Beefs run deep.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
So the minute that article is published, Bronwen probably was like,
I'm gonna ride this for the first six episodes.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Baby, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Well, we know she would be premeditative about it because
of the necklace situation.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I mean, that's also what I think.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think that I think Lisa's had three strikes with
Bronwan or two strikes, and they were just huge, huge strikes,
especially the one with her daughter.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But like what about the w g A strike. Oh
here we yes, America strike. That's really important.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
But it's not like Lisa's ever ever ever, like Whitney.
Whitney is playing this saying fucking brilliant, yep, I'm bankrupt.
My life fucking sucks. We made mistakes. I don't know
what the hell tomorrow is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
That makes good TV. That makes for good TV.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Lisa's like, none of this is happening, right, So of course,
ye would you have to say are you crazy? Like yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Or happened, because she's saying these are old cases. So
in a way, she's saying like this is what Bronwin's
argument was, which is that these are things from the past.
That doesn't mean that it didn't happen. And even still,
to everyone's point, there is still apparently one case at
least that Lisa's admitting has not officially been dismissed, at
(44:43):
least at the time of the airing of this so
or at least the time of filming it. So what
is really going on now? I haven't listened to a
lot of the Bravo Dockets podcasts just because of time factors,
but I do love them, and I would really like
to know the brass tacks about this because I want
to believe a lot of what Lisa's defense is, which
is that you know, there is one smoking gun, and
(45:05):
that is this whole money, and she hasn't paid this
guy back. Okay, So there's that. I it sounds like
that's very true. The other stuff. People do sue all
the time, and especially I don't know if they were
suing her or company before she was on the Housewives,
But the second someone becomes a housewife and or you
(45:26):
have any fame, people are coming at you from that
lady suit.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Her for like twenty million dollars, as she said Cardie
B pushed her in the lobby.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
You know, you can sue anyone.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, true. So I just think that the the what
is it, the Salt Lake City Tribute Bune. Yeah, they
I don't think like they're going I mean that article
was pretty substantial and they did investigate a lot of
(45:57):
what was going on there.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So I mean it's like want like the La It's
like the La Times Tom Girardi article, you know.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
And Emily subscribes to the Tribune Solid City, unrelated to
the show. It's just her favorite publication. She's always sending me,
you guys the.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Select.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
She also has to pay extra for that cooking one.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, treatment plan, and I'm really excited about it. Just outside,
can I can?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
I fitted a moment to the party? How that home?
And how great is.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
What? What happened? What happened?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
She couldn't pivot, She can't pitot.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
I have a hard time turning in real life. I'm
very clumsy. I don't want to twist my knee. I
don't want to twist my knee. How great was that
little those champagnes popping out of the and.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I love Steth It's a glory whole champagne.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
That was the faked description of that. It was shocking
and disturbing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
God, how.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
How about yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Oh go ahead, go ahead, gi about seth Because I.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Set in the other room being like, so do you
or do you not? Love Brittany? Check this box and
Jared was like, do.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
That is a doomed relationship. I've said it from the beginning.
Why can't you say you love your fiance without looking
like you're being interrogated for the murder of a person?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Like he is?
Speaker 5 (47:34):
He he does not love her? That is a sham
ass relationship.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Sham ass. He's a sham as you love her, He's like,
I love her?
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Is in the you know, I was in love and
of course there is a love is many splendord things.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Seth and I don't you know what? What do you
love your wife?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah I do, and we're practically divorced. I mean I
can say it. I'm seeing someone in Ohio. I mean,
but I love her.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
The fact again that.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
You know an Osmond is a hot ticket and she's
like I snagged him.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
I'm like, you two are criminally insane.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yeah, all right? What else about that party?
Speaker 5 (48:19):
I just love how there's always a party and everyone's like,
what's going on over there? It's like, you know, imagine
you're a real person, okay, and you go to a
party like that and you see them fighting, You're like, god,
this is all for TV. But actually it was a
very well, well needed argument, but like, if you don't
care about the show, you're like, look at this, this
is bullshit. Look at Amy invited those housewives and look
(48:41):
at them over there fighting, And then they always just
show a million reactions shots of people going.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
There.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
And that was a real party.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
That was impressive because typically, you know, we're so sick
of the Housewives parties. You've like seven people there and
five of them are housewives.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So it's just like a mark out dicks.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
So it was really nice to actually go to a
party that was a real party from a socialite that
is not that is not on the Housewives.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
But yeah, yeah, exactly, she's she's on her way.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
We're getting groomed by any social art right now.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I did like Bron wins when Lisa said you should
go to school and Ron was like, you should go
to work.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Whow all I do is work out? Dare you?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
All I could imagine is like John Oliver watching last
night's episode and like the second gout Dick came up
and be like, oh you serious?
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yes, chanting? Well, anything else left to say about this?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
Great second episode, very excited for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Good So does they say.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
All right, anything else, I think we have us covered. Guys,
all right, great, and that's the show. Everybody follow jam
jam be right over on Instagram, check her out on IMDb,
and Theresa's on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
By tippic my tickets to.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Cabaremi Now, but was a little bi guys love you by.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Oh. Bronwyn was completely right on what she was saying.
I'm not saying Bronwin doesn't have skeletons in her closet.
I couldn't believe Lisa didn't seem to bring any of
those up. But Bronwyn was like fully could stand in
it because she because of that dress.
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