Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Eps 5 & 6 and Great British Bake Off Ep 1 Recaps

What do Mormon wives and British bakers have in common? They both bring the drama to Drama, Darling! Amy and Emily tackle both shows this week and also chat about the recent hubbub between Shannon Storms Beador and Joel Kim Booster. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Drama, Darling.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Drama, Darling.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Drama, Darling.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome in October first, Darlings, Emily, Can you believe it's
October first already?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
No? I cannot. That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Are the leaves changing over in Maryland? That's what I
need to know.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
No, nothing changes on the East Coast for another week
or two, I think, sure about fair enough, somewhere between
the end of October and early November.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Of course, you're New England.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm not going to say the entire East coast right right,
some things are changing.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, things are swinging and ringing, and Emily's just
there basically for a little She's not an la right now,
is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm not right, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Off, you're back watching you days a few days, so exciting.
If you're watching this on Patreon, and if you're not,
by the way, you can patreon dot com slash Drama Darling.
You can get videos over there of the recaps, and
you can also get ad free uh and Monday, Wednesday
and Friday recaps. But over my shoulder, if you can
see it, is a pink pumpkin that we picked up

(01:27):
over at Michael's this weekend. When we were Hallow's Eve
shopping for our.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Home Pink Pumpkin Club.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Club.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yes, I love that song so much so and Brett's
going to he's going to draw on it. He's going
to draw like the Drama Darling logo, which I'm excited
about because you know, they're doing this these days with
the pumpkins. They're somehow they're made of this material that
you can carve into, so it's good for uh, you know,

(01:58):
very hot area like California, so your pumpkins don't rot
after two days of carving. So now people are doing
this and they just last the whole season. I mean,
you still want to get a regular pumpkin.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I mean, who are we kidding? You know, what are
we animals? But anyway, that's what this is. So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So today we're going to be talking about the Secret
Lives of Mormon Wives episodes.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Five and six.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And by the way, next week we're going to finish
the series and your bish therapist is going to be
joining me for episode seven and eight. Great, so that'll
be really fun. And also after we talk about the
Mormon Wives, we're gonna dip our toes into the Great
British bakeoff. Why would we not? And it's my first

(02:50):
foray at it, which is very exciting.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, before we get into our recap,
I do have let me pull it up on my phone.
This happened over the weekend. I'm just scrolling through my phone.
I have to go past a lot of the pictures
that were taking this weekend. But also this morning, Mattie
took my phone and I was getting ready and she

(03:18):
was eating breakfast. And I got my phone later and
I discovered that she recorded all seventeen minutes of her
eating her breakfast while watching her iPad. And it's riveting material,
absolutely riveting, And I was like, I hope you were
chewing with your mouth closed, and sure enough, not so much.
So there's just a lot a lot of that very

(03:41):
funny on my phone. Okay, So over the weekend, I
suppose this is our dish for today.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I mean, yeah, let's just take.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It a dish.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, serving dish. So over the weekend, we have
a feud between Joel Kim Booster and Shannon storms Badore.
It seems that it's one sided based on the fact
that Shannon has not responded to Joel Kim Booster's post,

(04:15):
but it really set wildfire to the Bravo verse quite quickly,
and so apparently he went on his Instagram and did
a story, but he also did a live apparently and
he was basically reading Shannon for filth. So he is
the upcoming host of the Housewives Hotel, which is a

(04:38):
peacock show that is associated with Bravo where these housewives
are looking for love. It features some of these housewives.
We have Luandella SEPs, Giselle Bryant, Ashley Darby, and Shannon
Storm's Badore. It's four of them and Joel Kim Booster
is the host of this. We did see like a
backshot of them or like a video someone i think

(05:02):
submitted to dumin or something or you know, Bravo and cocktails,
and it was like you could see the island and
all the camera people and we could hear Luanne in
the background.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Being like stor.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know so, but we definitely didn't know that Jill
Kim Booster was the host of this, which, you know,
finding that out was very exciting because he's a huge
Housewives fan. He's extremely funny if you know his work,
and most importantly Housewives fan, so over the weekend he
posted this, Just because you're a pathetic drunk on a

(05:35):
reality television show best known for a string of failed
relationships and a dui does not make you a star
and does not give you license to treat the people
you work with like they are sub human.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Period.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
They will make me delete this, but DM me if
you'd like to see some videos besos And then the
next screenshot is, well, that was quick anyway, don't regret it.
Hope you screenshot it. Hope she suffers. And by the way,
I also want to mention that Bravo Historian is the

(06:09):
one that got this information and put it out there
to the ravoverse. I believe that that's where it came from.
This is the Bravo breaking news message that somebody sent
I think to yeah, Bravo Historian, and this person said,
I had no idea Joel Kim Booster was hosting Housewife

(06:30):
Hotel or whatever it's called. He just went on alive
and cooked Shannon Badore like he roasted her, chopped her
and served her up for breakfast. Said she has been
a terror for the entire three weeks humiliates the crew
was hideous to him, and that at the rap party
just a few hours ago, she was terrible to someone

(06:50):
he really loves, and he got in her face and
said like something along lines of you think you're a star.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
People don't like you. They pity you. He said.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
The daughters are just as bad. So that is the
news out there now it's obviously wrapped. It's interesting that
they aren't in each other's presence anymore, so it's not
like she can go over to him and talk to
him or anything like that. Let's discuss his reaction to
this and what he posted. I'll share my side, and

(07:24):
then Emily, I'd like to hear yours. First off, it
was kind of like the very exciting tea.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, this is a tremendous tea spill, and I
wanted to hear more about the details. Then I, you know,
went to the next slide and I saw that he
said I hope she suffers, and I got like Louis
vibes from that, you know, because isn't that what Louie
said about Margaret Joseph's.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, wha? He suffers.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Okay, Okay, So I felt they crossed the line there.
I also felt like, boy, is he a Housewives fan
at all? Did he not know going into this that
these are horrible people for one and certainly when it
gets personal is where that's a tough situation. So clearly

(08:13):
and he was working with her, he was working with them. Wow,
he really went for it and really put his stuff
out there like a housewife, would you know. I was
just like, wow, he has enveloped himself. Maybe being secluded
on an island with housewives that are full of drama

(08:33):
got to him and he snapped and is now full
on crossed over to the housewives side, because that's kind
of like what one would do. Seems below the belt
to say I hope she suffers. I thought that was
like way too much not knowing the story. And here's
where I have to say, like, in my experience with Shannon,
and I have worked with her on a professional level,

(08:56):
I've worked with her on a show before, I've worked
with her in interviews, I've worked with her at Bravo Khan,
I've worked with her. I've never had a bad experience
with her, and I've never seen this side of her
what he's saying. So that being said, I cannot say, oh, well,
that checks out. You know, I could also, but I
could say that about plenty of other housewives I've met,

(09:19):
where I'd say, oh, yeah, that sounds about right, but
not about Shannon, not about what I've personally experienced with her.
So that being said, it was shocking to me to
hear this, and then the other I mean shocking to
me because I feel like I've kind of gotten to
know her, but obviously you don't really know somebody all

(09:40):
the time. And then on the other hand, not shocking
because these are housewives you're dealing with first and foremost. Now,
the last thing I'll say is I wasn't there. No
one was there, so we really don't know what happened.
Is it possible that she did or said something that
was truly horrific? Absolutely, any things possible, But without hearing

(10:03):
what happened, it's very difficult to take his side and
say what you did was right, like, you know, serve
her up. I just thought that was a weird choice,
especially as the host of that show, unless we find
out later that you know, she said some homophobic or
racist slur to someone's face or you know what I'm saying, Like,

(10:26):
that's where you need to know the details and what
we're talking about here, because like, yeah, well, if something
like that, like the worst possible scenario, which is what
I just said, if that happened, I can understand why
he would be outraged and want to say something and
not tell the details. But if it isn't like that,

(10:46):
I'm not sure what the purpose and the point of
it is. What's gonna happen with this show? And people
are are they gonna want to watch more? Are they gonna?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't think that he did this as a PR
stunt where he was like, I'm gonna do this because
I'm gonna go full housewife and this will be the
best thing. I don't think that he would be premeditated
to do something like that. So what are your thoughts, Emily?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I think it was maybe a rookie mistake on his end,
because I do well. I also want to say, Amy,
I don't think the Housewives are horrible.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
People just want to say that.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Okay, but uh, because that you did say that, and
I just want to say.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
That it's capetuating a stereotype.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Perhaps perhaps I don't want, uh.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
But anyway, I think that there's two things going on.
I think he hasn't hosted a show before. I think
it was probably way more stressful than he thought it
would be, and probably more stressful than.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Shannon thought it would be.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's a brand new show, nobody kind of knew what
was going on, probably and it was confusing on top
of an expectation to be crazy energy all around to
keep the momentum of the show going. So I don't
know what that work environment.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Was like, but right not good.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I know I would be pretty stressful for everyone, including
Shannon to maintain that, but also the crew like to
work with it. So I just I don't to your point,
like until we really know then I don't want to
say like one side or the other, but I I

(12:36):
guess I was kind of thinking, like Buddy, like, come on,
this is I don't know what exactly happened, but like,
why are you going so.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Hard on Shannon right out of the gate, Like maybe
sleep on it? But yeah, I don't know. I'll have
to see.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I guess we'll have to watch and see.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I do think, by the way, if if it was
that bad, I think he would have said something. I mean,
he wasn't holding back that much anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
To me, it's like.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Either name it or don't keep it so vague as
we're learning from.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Chimbolino's attorney, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
And to your point, I've seen some of the wives
and they are exactly who they.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Are on their show.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Oh yeah, there are most intense rage moments and it
is confusing to people that don't know what is happening.
So I can't But to me, Shannon doesn't seem like
one of those people. I just yeah, I'm so did

(13:47):
any I guess, like, did anybody see the video that
he's saying DM me?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And I'll I know, because if he's got video, I mean,
it's like, oh. And then the other thing he said
I almost forgot to mention this in one of his slides,
was like, I can't imagine what John Jansen went through.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, that was the thing that I was like, Oh, oh,
this must be bad, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, but but one of the things that I
thought was kind of funny is that if people didn't
post Shannon's picture alongside of of Joel Kim Booster's photo,
I never would have been able to identify who he's
talking about because from his post, it says, just because
you're a pathetic drunk on a reality television show best

(14:32):
known for a string of failed relationships and a dui.
I was like, and that narrows it down to, like,
how am I supposed to? You know?

Speaker 4 (14:40):
So I was like, that's a lot. Who are we
talking about?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I'm glad that they were pretty specific because it
could have been anyone in that well not Giselle, but.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I don't know, no, yeah, I mean not in that.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It could have been Luanne or Shannon.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Like that's true, that is true.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
So one of his talking about Luanne this whole time, Now,
I would god to believe actually both see That's where
I'm like, if he was talking about Luanne, I might
believe it, yes, because that's why.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
She handled herself with the police.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right. Yeah, Well, we've got our work cut out for us.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
So we need to welcome you in.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Kay, Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
To the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And this is
episodes five and six that we're going to be recapping,
and we are.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
We just left.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We're back from the girl's trip in Park City, and
no one knows where mom Talk stands. I mean, because
it was a mess. It was a mess in Park City,
and now everyone's just trying to pick up the pieces
and just trying to figure out where do we go
with mom talk you know, from here made me.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Feel like we left the Girl's trip abruptly, like oh yeah,
I thought like we missed an episode.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I I just remember being in the c and I
guess they did go to dinner. But so I guess
they did go to dinner eventually, But I don't know
how we left there, but we certainly didn't see it.
But I'm glad that we landed pretty harshly and introduced
to a place called Swig, which I had never heard of.
And I know that a lot of people because they're

(16:19):
ahead of us in watch watching Mormon Wives. But Swig
is just taking over by storm, and now we're really
aware that it's, you know, a soda bar that you
can get very specific drinks from. And my eyes were
open to why I suppose their teeth are in better
condition than I thought, because it's not just they're not
just drinking a mountain.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Dew or a coke.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
They are asking for sugar free syrups. They are the
you know, the the it's like the French seventy two.
But you've got like the Fighter fight er Flight two
seventy one at Swig and you you basically ask for
your version of it and it's like a right two.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Puns of a spider.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, it's just two pumps of lavender with like a
coconut spritz half carbonation half flat. I mean, it is
next level drinks.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And I say kudos to them for.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Finding something that is exciting to all of them and
getting creative with all of their Mormon loopholes, and so
good on them for that. But wow, what a journey
into the world of Swig.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, God bless, I have zero interest and I
mean maybe I go to a Swig twice in my life,
but I yeah, yeah, it's not my vibe.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, because we have many other options open to us
that we're allowed to have, so.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
We don't need to do that.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
But I'll tell you what if if you took away
my Coca cola and my coffee and my tea, I'd
probably be heading over to Swig, but didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
We also realized too that they could have caffeine. It
just has to be cold, right and not dark, so
they could have There are other options for caffeines out there,
and I need to get a clarification on can you
have like a heavily like if you have coffee but
has a lot iced coffee with a lot of milk,

(18:17):
does that count?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Are you okay? Then you know, because then that's not
dark and it's cold? Hm?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Wow, racist, No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So we are told that Whitney has left the group chat,
which is amazing, and this is what I'm here for.
I'm here for people leaving group chat, not confronting the
person or asking them why, and this person having very
clear motives for leaving the group chat but not admitting
to them, and this person's spiraling on the outside. And

(18:53):
we got a lot of Whitney. You know, I actually
thought she made a great point in one of her
confessionals that or when she was talking to Connor in
that kitchen, like she was like, are you know, are
we really genuine friends? There's always a transaction or an agenda,
you know, because they all met on mom talk, which

(19:14):
is interesting. So they met through TikTok, which I need
a little bit more of a deep dive on that
and how they all connected that way. So but we'll
have to discuss that in another time, and she's like,
I'd be curious if if we didn't meet on social media,
Like I don't even think we'd be friends if mom talk.
I'm like, yeah, no one would be friends with you
because you're a bitch, so you should maybe you should

(19:36):
be grateful for mom talk because they're kind of some
of them are putting up with your shit until now.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And it's also like.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
The mom talkers are very quick to want to appoint
a new leader, and then I was like, oh, we
need but her transaction was make me the queen, Like
as long as you make me top tier, we'll be friends.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
And it's like that's exhausting too.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh Lord, they want a leader because it works for
the story. I think that, you know, kind of pushing
them in that direction that mom talk needs a leader.
But I do think it's funny that, you know, with this,
a lot of people consider Mormonism a cult, and Jesse
calls it out. She's like, we need a leader for

(20:23):
this cult and I was like, well, yeah, I mean
it's kind of what it is. So I'm glad that
you called it out the way that we see these
mom talkers, which is kind of funny. But Whitney was
like telling Connor, I wasn't invited to their splatter party,
like that paint party thing. Yeah, And she's like, no

(20:45):
one called me, no one asked me, no one invited me.
And she's like, I don't know why. I mean, I
know why because I left the group chat. It's like, well, then,
which one is it? She really talks on it both
sides of her mouth, doesn't she?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Is that that's the event that she didn't go to,
and instead they went to look at being homesteaders right right.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Right homesteaders, which is a pole Mormon TikTok thing, right.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And I think she was a little bummed out that
it wasn't going to take more than an hour and
a half of her day, which I was like, I've.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Never heard of that right as a farmer?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh yeah, that woman's like, oh snop, you really just
walk I'm like, what one hour walking around and feeding
all the animals that's all it takes. I'm just like, well,
other farmstead TikTokers in your community would beg to differ.
And the way that they tell the stories makes it
look a lot more complicated than that.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Also, like I feel like Whitney's going to be like
more about like the baby animals, because that's the vibe of.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know what I mean, like cro please don't.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well yeah, or Tiger king.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I but that's if Whitney's just doing it for influencer stuff.
I feel like that's going to be your vibe because
I can't imagine she's going to be I mean, the
hard labor showing that isn't you know, I don't think
she knows how to do it and doesn't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I don't think that that would be the vibe of
the account. That's just me hi theory.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I did think it was kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
And they're confessional when they're sitting together, Whitney and Connor,
and she was like, or he said, you know, we
want a self sustaining farm. We want something that sustains us.
Or he's like, we want something that sustains us and
that we can live. She's like, we want a farm.
She really does cut to the chase, and I kind

(22:46):
of like that about her. I think it's really funny.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
And then when she.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Was talking about how no one called her after leaving
the group chat, she was like, if someone left that
group I would immediately call them. I would immediately text
them and say, is everything okay?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
You know?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
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why I did it. I'm like, Okay, that's one hundred
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Now let's get back into the secret lives of Mormon wives.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, and she's so mad at Jessee for telling her
how like what the deal is, and so I'm like,
take some accountability here. She just the more she talks
about nobody reaching out, the angrier she gets at Jesse
for being the messenger. Meanwhile, it's like, well, pretty clear

(25:25):
no one gives two shits about you, and that's maybe
why they're not reaching out, So maybe refocus at anger.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, I mean her mom too was interesting when she
was crying to her mom and later in the episode
after Jesse was like, yeah, no one likes you. Everyone's
talking about you, and that's just the truth. And the
fact that she was so taken aback and shocked about that,
it's so overly dramatic to me, I just thought, what

(25:57):
do you expect? How are you not thinking? Isn't this
kind of what you want? I feel like she's pitting
herself against everybody in a very great reality television way.
That makes for a good plot because right now she's
the villain and she's putting herself in and I'm part
of me thinks that she knows that. But then I'm like, oh, wait, no,

(26:19):
she really is clueless. Do you think she's clueless or
do you think that she actually is leaning into being
a villain?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, I think she's clueless.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I don't think that she has I don't think you know,
I've said it before. It's just there's this total arrested
development thing happening with.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
All of these people.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
They're all like seven years behind mentally. Then their age
would make you think that they are at least seven
at least, so to me, it's like she is as
oblivious as like a preteen would be and not having
like just really thinking like, but I'm the coolest.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Why doesn't everyone like me? Right? And like last week
I let them all sit at my lunch.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Table, they should think I'm the best, you know, like
that's that's Whitney.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And then she's like, what everybody's talking about me? And
then she's she's always running out of the scene. She's
always leaving. Yeah, yeah, And then her mom is like, well,
they're just not your friends. They're just not you know,
like wow, I wonder where she learned this from.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, And that's how it all operates in that little bubble,
I mean, because those are the things that like you're
encouraged the ways that you're encouraged to be and.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Think, uh so Layla is getting she's gonna have her
divorce party and she gets her tattoo fixed that she
got from Clay like two dots or whatever. And what
did she even end up getting. I don't even know
why two stars?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
It was the nothing was of any consequence. It's just
like God, it's happening.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
That's odd, okay, And it's interesting to watch the journey
of these divorces and hearing like Demi is talking about
how she's divorced too, and I do like that she
speaks to that and says like it's it should it
should be normalized, and you shouldn't feel guilty about being divorced.

(28:27):
And that's just you know, because the church they're so
hard on it and they don't like that. But you
shouldn't feel guilty and you shouldn't feel shame about it,
and it's not the end of the world. So I
do appreciate her speaking to that because these girls are
so young and they're going to carry that with them
in such a way to where they will feel that shame.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And then I thought, I don't think Leila's feeling that shame.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, we're having a divorce party where it's like
rip Laylah Wessels or whatever. And I was like, I
would never want to do something like that't want to
look at the name. I wouldn't want to rip it.
I just think it's so weird and very odd, but

(29:10):
it works because like.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
People have divorce parties, but it's not it's more about
new beginnings than it is about like riegrating the things
that were right.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And to have her married name and like rip and
it just was a weird look, just an odd way
to do it. And then that guy that showed up,
that that little boy that they were trying to introduce
her to. I was like, who is this child? And
it just reminded me of how young they all are.
And with divorces happening in this community, there's a from

(29:44):
what I can see, there's no less divorces in the
Mormon culture than there are in regular culture.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Shouldn't they want to change that? Isn't that kind of like?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why is everybody throwing out the word divorce all the time,
Like Zach on the phone, I don't want to be
married to you if this or that? And I'm like, guys,
aren't you guys supposed to be trying to see it
through with your marriages. Everyone seems to get pretty loose
with divorces in the Mormon religion.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Because they're ten.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
That's right, that's right, you're right, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean, the Zact thing is berserker wow.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I mean when they go to Vegas four and they're surprised,
this is the thing I'm really having a hard time
about the Chippendales thing and Jesse's surprising them with going
for Layla's birthday. They act kind of act like it's
a surprise, but it seems like the guys know and
are okay with them going, but not And then I

(30:51):
can't figure it out. It's like, then they're backstage and
that was a whole thing, and so then maybe that's
what they didn't actually know, is that they were going
to be going backstage and meeting them before hand, taking
pictures with them and rubbing oil on their chests if
they so chose to, and that that obviously is what
Zach was upset about, is that they were backstage and

(31:11):
taking a picture with them, and now they're posting it
on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Right, Yeah, I like that, You're like, that's what he
was obviously upset about.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Poor guy. I don't know how you got.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Through it, poor Zach. I know.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Let me make this very clear. I have no sympathy
or empathy for him whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I mean this is this just screams problematic obviously
in every way possible.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, okay, is it true that he lost his like
his parents gave him money for his education and gambled
it away.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh my god, are you serious?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah? I can't remember if I there was like a
TikTok I saw or something, and I didn't confirm it.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I should like read and see if it because then
on the uh In five or six episode, one of
these uh Jen says, I don't want to say it's
a gambling addiction, remember in her interview, and then because
they were like can we talk about this and or

(32:14):
can we talk about Zach and the gambling? And she's like, yes,
but I don't want to call it an addiction.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Right, God, but right, I don't want to call it.
I don't want to put a name on it.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
But when he was like unloading on her at the
Chippendale's thing, I was like, Oh, he's just trying to
like make her feel bad so she gives.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Him more money.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So you got to gamble that, right If gambling, I mean,
gambling is obviously not in the Mormon, the Book of Mormon.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
You're not supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't know. I mean it might be fine, who knows,
and it's probably different for men and women, Like I
have no idea, of.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Course, But clearly in the Book of Mormon it says
you may not go to a Chippendale show.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's how Chippendale's are.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
The fact that they didn't even know what the Chippendales were. Yeah,
And I was like, this thing has been around since
Joseph Smith.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yes, it has as long as coke has been around,
as we've discovered one hundred years.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Over one hundred years, So what is your excuse.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I'm not seeing anything on Zach gambling away his college fund,
so I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I just did a quick search. I'm not seeing that.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
But she's like, okay, I'll give you a you know,
an allowance. And I'm like, this is so weird, Like
you're he's gonna go twenty five hundred dollars to play
with and an.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Apologies if it's in a future episode or something. But
I did see a TikTok about him just blowing through
a shit ton of money.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
That checks out. That does check out.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Uh, So let's keep talking about Vegas because we're there.
But like when they're in the party bus on the
way to the Chippendale's, Jen chomping on that blue gum
is more offensive to me than any of the things
I've heard about the Mormon culture that I have a
problem with.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
That was that was a rough go.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
And then I noticed several people were chewing the gum,
and I just thought, ladies, shut your mouths.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Okay, shut them. But they're so young that they just
I don't know. So, would you want to oil up
at Chippendale?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, that's not fun for me.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
No?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Okay, good like, yeah it's not. It's not.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
It's like the least sexual thing ever because these guys,
you know, they don't they don't want to see, they don't.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Want me to do this. See, they're probably just like,
what the hell, it's the whole.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Thing is weird. Yea, the whole thing is just weird.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But yeah, it's very disturbing about Jen talking to Zach
and she's like, he doesn't want to be married to
me anymore if I do stuff like this. And that's
where your point comes in, where I was thinking, yeah,
they're just kids, Like that's what he's like, I'm going
to break up with you. I mean, that's okay to
feel that way because you're too you know, right. So

(35:29):
I kind of don't really have that much of an
issue with them. Overreacting because they're so young that they
don't understand that you can have healthy boundaries and healthy relationships.
They just don't get it, Like they're not evolved enough
and mature enough to understand that. So in a way,
I can't really hold them to a standard.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well I can.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
They should not be having children of their own, is
where I'm feeling. That is like if you if you're
gonna be in this like bubble and you think this
is the way the world operates, we can't just keep
doing this over and over again because we say, like
they're young, they're babies, but they are, they shouldn't be

(36:13):
having kids. They're going to keep having kids and they're
you know, mid twenties, thirties soon, and I don't think
it's going to change.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Well, it's really tough when you have kids when you're younger,
because you really don't know how to edit yourself in
front of them.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Also, and you're not mature enough.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So you know, you've got like Whitney just spouting off
in the kitchen about all this bullshit and her two
kids are there, and I'm thinking this is seeping in
in some way in which they're going to act the
same way when they get older, because they're just hearing
it peripherally and it's going to just be a part

(36:53):
of who they are, you know. And to think, like
back in the day, everybody had kids when they were younger.
You know, people aren't way until like they do now
when they're in their late thirties and forties, and and
it sucks because it's like that's when you start to
really know who you are and you have your boundaries
and you are set in who you are.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
But then it's like, oh, I can't.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Have kids now because now my eggs are all dried up.
And that's what's so sad about it. It's so strange
the way these things work. So on some level, I
understand if they if family is really important to them
and they want to keep having they want to have
kids and populate, But then they don't have the maturity
to like balance that out. It's such a recipe for

(37:37):
disaster and divorce. So it makes so much sense why
everybody's getting divorced. So all right, let's discuss Tailor and.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Dakota.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Okay, So first of all, we find out at some
point that Macy has a sek. She used to do
this sinner Sunday, anonymous confession thing on her TikTok, and
she got a message from someone saying, I accidentally slept
with Dakota before I knew he and Taylor were together.

(38:15):
So that's adding to this whole situation with him potentially cheating.
And we know that Taylor wants Dakota and Macy to talk.
It's really important to her because that's her best friend.
And she knows that she has a problem with Dakota,
and she's having her baby in a few weeks and
they're in a terrible spot and everything's a mess. So

(38:39):
finally she gets them together to discuss, and this really
took a turn. I was pretty shocked when Taylor. Taylor
broke down and started crying, and then Dakota essentially like

(39:00):
set it all that we the some parts that we
didn't know, and then of course we learn more later
thoughts on Dakota's you know, outing Taylor about how when
they were in a talking phase that she said he
can go be with anybody and not tell her.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh, well, you know, that was weird because when he
was talking with Macy, I kind of when the three
of them were.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Like using Macy as a mediator. I was like, well,
I could see Taylor.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Doing that, and then it is confusing, and so I
almost do want to call this a draw.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
But then something shifted.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
By the time they got to the next set of mediators,
which were Zach and Jena, I was just.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Like, oh, Dakota, you're a fucking idiot again.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Like I every time can give him like two points,
and then by the end of the episode, I'm back
to negative with him.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I felt the exact same way. Yeah, I mean when
she started crying, I was like, Wow, this is some
real shit.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I mean, here she is.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
She's super frighting everywhere everywhere. Yeah, she's showing up everywhere.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, Dakota and I just had a fight. Hi. H
Dakota and I just had a fight. Hi. Yeah, just Dakota,
just I just had a fight.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Everywhere she's going and it's like she's wearing the same outfit,
she's wearing the same joggers.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
She's a mess. She's a mess. It's a mess. It's
a mess. It's a mess. It's really hard to watch.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
But then you see how he is, like when I
mean the mom, Taylor's mom being like tell him that
you her neighbor or whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I was like, oh, oh, so this is where we
learned it, you know, like when we are getting to
know these moms, I'm like, these messy mommy Mormons.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
They just really aren't afraid to go there. You know.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
They get divisive, they get spicy, they get dramatic.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
They do.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
And then I thought like, but she was trying to
call him and he wasn't answering, and what if she
was in labor, right, it.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Wasn't that crazy to think that.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
And then I thought like, can you imagine being that
pregnant and then having to deal with his dumb ass
like I just.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
He seems fine with the level of stress he's putting
on her, Like it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
It seems to just be about him over and over again.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
It is about him to having this experience that he wants.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
This is what I see.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
All I see is that everything that he's putting forward
about come on, please, like you're four weeks away, you're going.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
To have a baby.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
That part of his conversation. I was like, Okay, this
is good. I like what he's saying here. And he's like,
I just want to be on the same page with you.
I just want to be a team. But what people
don't understand, and what I think is hard for us
to wrap our heads around, is that what he means
is that he wants her to say yes to marrying him,

(42:09):
period dot. He is not being he's not meeting her
halfway with like she's basically saying, like, I will be
on your team, but I'm not ready to move forward
in this to be married because I don't know if
something's gonna pop up around the corner, if you've done
something and our trust has been broken.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
So give me a minute.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
And what he's saying is I believe you know, put
all that aside and let me be on your team.
Let's get married. And it's just not gonna work that way.
He needs to fall back and say, yeah, we can
be a team and then we'll get you know, if
we can get married later. But I think that he's
really stopping it at this ultimatum with the marriage thing

(42:52):
because he's the whole Mormon church pressure. She keeps saying
that he feels pressure from the church not to have
a baby out of wedlock, and he wants that done.
He wants to check that box off, and it's just
not that simple, and he's making it so stressful for her.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but now he has someone to
blame when they don't get married and have a baby
out of woodlock. Yeah, it can be her, but it's like,
well you you brought it to this though, buddy.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Also, why are you going and sleeping with somebody else?

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Well, I gotta chalk that up to the gray area.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Unless it's like no, once they were exclusive once, Like,
that's a little undefined to me so far, but maybe
it gets more defined in the next couple episodes.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
But that's the part I'm like, well.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I agree, it's a gray area, because then he really
put it on her by saying like, then why did
you say you know, you're the one who told me
I can do whatever I want, and why would she
say that and then kind of take it back because
and this is where I'm like, oh my god, she's pregnant.
Just tell her whatever she needs to hear. Just say

(44:06):
you're sorry, and just say I'm sorry. I shouldn't have
done that, and I really shouldn't have even you know,
I don't know, but you have to say whatever it
takes to get through this period of being pregnant because
from what I understand, what she told him is very
contradictory and not right. So she's telling him, you can
go do whatever you want. But then he lied to

(44:31):
her when she asked him to hang out, he said
he was like at a guy's night, and then he
went to a girl's house that night and hooked up.
And why would you lie to me? And it's like, well,
you told him that you don't want to know, so
essentially he can't tell you the truth. So what exactly

(44:52):
is he supposed to do? So she really set him
up for disaster there. It was an impossible task, is
what I'm trying to say. Say what she wanted, I
don't understand, and so and and and clearly he doesn't
understand either, so and and what she said is like,
all I asked of you was to be honest after
everything I've been through. And I just thought, well, it

(45:15):
sounds like you were the one who stepped out on
your marriage and the rules. So obviously you're extra paranoid
because you don't want someone to do that to you.
But now you're telling him to go off and do something.
It's totally confusing, And I thought, Taylor, you're a freaking
mess right now, girl, And I can't one hundred percent
get behind you because of what now we know you're

(45:35):
bringing to this relationship. It's completely disorganized.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, I agree, I agree, and full.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Of drama and full of yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Just and I'm I'm.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I mean, I know that she's like the head of
mom Talk or whatever, but she's very outside the Dakota things.
She's she really almost blends into the woodwork. And I
don't totally understand how she's the alpha or she's the leader,
because to me, it doesn't seem like she's that compelling.

(46:12):
In other situations. She's very quiet.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
But I think that is what's compelling about her is that, well,
her life is completely a mess right now and we're
just watching it. And perhaps, you know, being the leader
of mom Talk back in the day, her energy was
shifted in a different place. I mean, it was an
exciting time. She wasn't dealing with all the drama and
the scandal and now yet another relationship where now she's

(46:37):
pregnant and dealing with trust issues and not knowing what's
moving forward. So it's her in a different life really, Yeah,
and she is set back. I mean, she's just sitting
there pregnant and crying and everyone's confused. You know, what
I thought was super fascinating was that Macy was so

(46:59):
eloquent explaining her situation to Dakota by saying, like, look,
I don't want to chalk you up to being like
my abuser. I'm not saying that you are that, but
that there are some similarities by way of you know,
verbal things that are said that are really triggering for me,

(47:19):
that are just not okay. And I really liked how
she put that forward because we know that she saw
the text where he basically called her a slut.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I like Macy Macy. I like her. She's good.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Even though like I like that, even though Whitney's and asshole,
Macy still like has her back. Like Macy to me
is the one I could be like, there might be
another one in there, but Macy I could hang out with.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Macy's great. She has herself together, which is very impressive.
It seems like more than anybody.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
So I did really appreciate her opening up about her
ex boyfriend and I thought it was very relatable.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
So that was really intense.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Now, after that scene, then they show up at Zach
and Jen's and Whitney's like, yeah, we're just gonna do
a really big fight.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
So yeah, and now they're going to drive there.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, we have five hours to fight in the car.
Yeah that's awesome. A shared vehicle, Oh horrible.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
And everybody keeps acting surprised that, Like Taylor walks into
a room and is like, Dakota and I are fighting again,
and then the in in the interview or whatever it is,
everybody's like, I mean this time, it was like, really,
for real, they were actually really fighting.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I'm like, what were they doing ten minutes ago? Maybe? Yeah,
every single.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Episode sometimes the police are involved, like, yeah, none of
this should be surprising.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
It's weird when they get along. That to me is weird.
Hugged outside the van, I was like, whoa, yeah, what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I was glad that he made a move to do
that because I thought, if you get into that car
and you start over fighting, it's gonna be a mess.
And that's kind of like what they started to do.
But whatever, And meanwhile they're trying to fight in the
house before they left, and then Zach and Jen came
up and like, we really have to go.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Let's start heading out.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
But and the only reason that Dakota was even I
think I don't believe he was actually that.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Angry about the jibbin dales. I think he was just.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Trying to get some like edge back for her always
blaming him for stepping out.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Now he can be like, well you in to a
Chippendale ship.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yes, in the like in the Mormon umbra, like under
that umbrella that is equal or.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Worse right, Yeah, And you know they love clout. They
want to have clout over other people. I've never known
more people that want clout. And I've never I mean
that word. It must have been born in Utah and
just lives in Utah because oh, I have to point
out Connor's outfit at the divorce party and Whitney's outfit

(50:26):
at the divorce party that was something else.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
It's really so oh my god, it was her dress
was nineteen ninety three homecoming.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Truly.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I was like, oh, I think I wore that, Yes,
So do you appreciate it for it being like a
throwback fashion statement because it's.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Anyone else had it?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I would, but with her, I know what she did,
and she's like, this looks like I'm wearing a pilgrim hat.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I'm in and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
No, there's nothing vintage cool about what you've done here.
Whitney like Jonas, Yeah, got into it.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And then she talks to Jesse and wants to know why.
I mean, this is when it's hard to keep track
of who said what she's like, because Whitney wants to
know why. Demi said that. Whitney gets close to people
to get their secrets and then she moves on and
uses them and moves on and I'm like, uh what
And we did talk about that how. Jesse's like, yeah,
you everybody's talking about you. Everyone has an issue with you.

(51:27):
And she's like, oh, what I'm.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Leaving, which is great, which is really really great.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Okay, so but let me let me go back and
mention Macy's baby mama launching her launching a business with
natal supplements, which is great, and how this was such
a setup to the maternity shoot. I was like, okay,
well clearly, I mean it's hard because you can't You're like, okay,

(51:58):
this is so produced you the Dakota came in, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
But that was not a maternity thing.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
It was no I know, they was there to plug her.
Oh I see you having Dakota hijacking it.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Right, But I think that that was a produced bit,
like you know what I mean? Yeah, I agree, Okay, yeah,
but I have to say, maternity shoots to me are
they're usually a miss. Like they don't they don't always
resonate with me. But those pictures actually looked really good.
I'm not gonna lie. They were kind of cute. I
mean they were all right.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I mean yeah, I always think like these they always
have a little bit of a creep thing going on.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I don't know always, that's what I mean. They never
resonate with me fully. Maybe it was like I don't backdrop.
I think maybe because I like the pink, vibrant backdrop.
Usually they're just all like beigey and all white and
it's just all like weird. They're just they always kind
of creep me out on something.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
And I say that.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
As someone that's never been pregnant, like I don't, so
I guess like maybe there's a whole component of like
being a really special time in your body and you
want to capture that.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Yeah, just don't do it in a lazy way.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I mean, and don't do Dakota.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Definitely don't do it with Dakota.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I will say when she was alone. I loved it
when yes, yeah entered, And I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
When the dude.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Enters and we don't need the dude.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
We don't need anybody female, another female, or another male, anyone.
Like I think it's just the pregnant person. Yeah, there
you go. I think we nailed it. I think we
figured it out. I never did one of those, you know.
I just was like, Eh, it's not too late, it's
not it's very late, my girl, it's very late, okay.

(53:54):
And then I lastly, because we do have to wrap
this up, I want to mention.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
What's her name?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Jesse's like basically she got a mommy makeover, and.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Like on the fly on her way in, she's like,
you know if you can just like she was explained
to the doctor as she's like getting in her Do
you think that was real?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Like do you think that was really real?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
But like you can't just do an add on at
the last minute, Like there's certain hours that you have
to book a surgery room.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
I mean I just.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Will the way they made it sound, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, it was more like explaining like a haircut right
as you're going in.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Right, You're showing like a picture of a Pinterest and
you're like, I just want this.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Well, I mean I thought that I would like to
know the downtime because she sure showed up for Vegas
ready to go.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
I could not believe she went to They said.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Four to six weeks and that you can seem like
four to six weeks later that yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah right, I mean the going to Vegas hot off
of that.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I mean, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
That's really scary because you're looking at you're looking down
the barrel of a staph infection, you know, like talk
to Vicky talk yes, exactly, thank you, That's that should
be what we're dealing with. And I I will say
I did love the fact that she very much normalized

(55:35):
a laby of plasty that she I mean, I can't
believe she showed she allowed the cameras to film that
and they blurted out, but but she showed the girls
like what she was dealing with after the fact, and
I just was like, this is really empowering because I've
never seen that. I don't think I've ever We've heard

(55:56):
women talk about getting the mommy makeover. We've heard about
what happens when you know, when you give birth vaginally.
That can really go down south. But her being so
open about it, I thought was commendable and so good
on you, Jesse, good on you.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Well we're gonna move on from.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Let's get to the tent.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yes, kay, welcome in.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Okay, great British Bakeoff. This is like how many seasons?
Because I've this is the first season I've watched it. Emily,
you were like, you gotta see this, So this is
my first time watching it. It looked like there were
a ton of seasons. Oh are you using a mug
that says.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Oh, Star Baker?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Oh this, Oh gosh, I'm sorry, my mug says Star Baker.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
How sweet you have a You've got a great Breech
bakeoff mug.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Amy, I am so happy to have you in the
tent with me.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Thank you for welcoming me in.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Welcome in. What were your like initial thoughts?

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Wait, holy Molly.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, and Amy's never watched it?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Always wanted to.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yes, Yes, loved, I mean, of course absolutely adore it.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Thank you for encouraging me. Love their their British judging,
which is like, hmmm.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
The color is a bit violent.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
That's not tidy, not very nice, little clumsy what I say. Uh,
And here's the real kolk like I love their language,
you know.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
For the judging, it's great.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Well, there's some controversy uh on the judging right this
moment in this episode, because what we saw in the
first episode in the signature bake to get a Paul
Hollywood handshake was I was.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Not happy about it.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
That Paul Hollywood handshake used to be like, blow your mind.
Middle of the season, this must be the greatest thing
he ever tried.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Handshake.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Oh, and to just.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Give it out first episode in the first round. Oh,
I was so glad that proved and said, is that
how it's going to be now?

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh my, So that's why she called that out. But
a Paul Hollywood handshake, Oh, it's a very big deal.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
The weight of it. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Sometimes and there was a minute there where he was
handing them out a little too carelessly and people were.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Not happy about it. Viewers were not happy, okay, and
then he kind.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Of pulled back and it was at a rate that
we were all comfortable with honoring.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
And now I don't go back at it.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
He had too many hot toddies that morning.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Maybe yeah, something.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
But I uh, ilian her cinnamon loaf. Out of all
of them, I mean, none of them sounded good to me,
I'm gonna be honest, except for hers, And none of
them really looked good to me except for hers. So
her loaf, I was like, that's it, one hundred percent.

(59:22):
And if I'm wrong, then I know nothing. But I
don't know anything about British baking. So the fact that
she did get what I'm saying, what I'm now learning
about it being a handshake, I'm really happy about that.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Oh wow, Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I'm shaking my head now. Who wow.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Okay, Well that's sorry, going.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Four week four Okay, fine, but just to have it
be your basic cinnamon loaf or whatever, just a cinnamon roll.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Simplicity. This is what I like about simplicity and purity
of any type of dish or ba good. You know,
people overthink it, you know, when we've just got so
much going on in so many of these things, and
I'm like, I can't with this, it's just too much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Well, one thing that you're graded on in the tent
is your flavors and taking risks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
And having it be like a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
They also celebrate like nailing something basic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Right well, because I think take going classic is a risk.
If you're saying that they are really wanting to see
some elevated flavors, that's a risk.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I just it's not a handshake moment.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I not sense to hear. I'm not wappy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I'm sure it was great, but it was not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
I'm not to your stand darlings.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Let me know. If you watch Bakeoff and you were like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Uh Sumiya Samya with her karrot palwa it looked gorgeous.
I love the way hers looked, but it didn't look
good to me. Which one looked good to you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Let's see, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I thought Jill's chocolate orange loaf cake I wanted to
try it, but I wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I thought it was all. I thought it looked good.
The lemon and lind seed I was excited about, and
then that not wonder.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Yeah, there was too much lind seed in there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah. Also, by the way, first American ever on the Bakeoff?

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Is that true? Okay? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Now there's other like in the British Bakeoff, because there's
an American version of the show that is not as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Good oh but yeah, okay, what is it called American Bakeoff?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Yeah? Great, if something like that, I think it's spit.
It had like one season and Prue and Paul or
no maybe it was just Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I forget. I didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Okay, Well, then we move on to the Gingham Plaid
Secret Challenge, and this was fun. It was a taste
in Big challenge where they had to make eight perfectly
symmetrical Battenbergs, which I had no idea what the technical challenge?

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Sorry, okay, go ahead, thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
No, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I need to be I need to be led here.
I mean, can you be my leader? We need a
leader for this. We need Queen Bee of Great British
Big of This was a tough thing and they obviously
had no recipe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Who first ever where they taste it and have no
recipe because usually they get like the most generic list
of like instructions, and then Paul or Prue will be like,
here's a clue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
That's not really that helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
So for them to have the item and taste it
and then make it, which over there, that battenberg is
like a tasty cake. It's very you know, like it's
really common, but like usually like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
They don't even totally know what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Or they have a vague idea, so that was a twist.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Oh wow, okay, exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
They're really raising the stakes. It was great to see
very difficult challenge and Georgie one first place, which was
exciting to see. Now the show stopper challenge, which is
the hyper realistic illusion Cake, and that's always fun because
you know, actually we were watching Is It Cake last

(01:03:36):
night with Baby Doorter and we really love that show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Obviously who doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
But this was a very fun and it just shows you, Wow,
they can do a lot here, the chicken, the duck,
the canopic jar, the mummy thing, the sewing machine, the jeans,
the bowling balls, the stack of books, the leather overnight bag,
Hazel's handbag, that was amazing, her walking that in that

(01:04:03):
that was great. Nelly's retro ninety shoe, and Ilien's vase
with flowers, which was your favorite to look at?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
To look at, I thought that duck was wild.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Oh agree, I'm going to have to agree with you. Yeah,
that was my favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
So good. On the on the tree stump.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Yeah, it would just looked from every angle there was
it just looks so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I thought it was a smart choice of Mike to
choose books, because that's a easier feet to do, like
flat you know, symmetrical type challenges in a hurry, and
looked very impressive. Now, okay, so John one with his jeans,

(01:04:55):
which I was shocked about. And I don't want Margarita
in my cake, So I don't know what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Well, Prue loves a cocktail, so a lot of times
they and sometimes they go too far with the booze in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
The Oh okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
But and then and I feel like it's then it
comes down to flavors. So whatever the flavor, whatever his
cake tasted, leg must have been amazing. And and a lot
of times with like and cake week, especially.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Like cake week.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
That's what this on because it'll be the I think,
like I forget what next week will be, but the eventually,
like there'll be bread week and there will be different week.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Is this cake week?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
This was cake Week?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Okay? Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
So I I think, like, I think it probably comes
down to flavors more than anything.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
But but he didn't Now now, now he didn't win
with the jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
He won overall, right, they take all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
The bakes into consideration and then they award the star
baker from that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
So if you shook the bed in the first round.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yes, but insane kill it in the third, that first
round is probably still gonna come.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Back to get you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Okay, So he had his chocolate cherry loaf cake, which
they obviously must have liked enough, so that makes sense. Okay, great, great, great,
I really did. I was stressing out for Georgie that
she had to do a second batch of her sponge cake.
That was bold, but I think it paid off. And

(01:06:37):
then also baking in that tent, the weather aspect of
it seems to be really a whole other factor which
is very challenging.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Well, it was a cold summer and that's why Hazel
had her little hot bottle in her apron. But it
usually gets pretty warm in there right about the time
that they're like having to deal with like ice cream
and everything and ice melting everything.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
No, that's awful, Yeah, yeah wow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
But yeah, I mean they all figure it out. They're
just like you know, going back and forth to their
freezers and just like trying to maintain temperatures and yeah,
but but I mean the tent is its own. It's
like such a huge part of the show at this point,
Like I don't think they'll ever not be in that tent.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
So great.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I love the judges. They're so likable. All the contestants
are just so likable and fun. And I like the
fact that they had their star baker of the week,
which was John, and then they all decided not to
send anyone home.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Is that regular? Is that normal?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Well, Jeff was sick, So because of Jeff being.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Out, Oh got it, that's why they sided.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Yeah, they've done that in the past, where it's kind
of like that's the fair thing to do if somebody
doesn't feel well and isn't there for the bakes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
And wait, who is Jeff?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I don't even have him read the American the America?

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Did he?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
So he didn't end up baking the realistic cake?

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
He was there the first day? Or well he wasn't. Yeah,
he wasn't there for the signature Okay, no, wait no, sorry,
he was there for he was there for this signature.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
He wasn't there for the technical and the showstopper got it.
So yeah, And I think in the past how they
do it is like you do the signature and the
technical the same day, and then the next day you
do your show's stopper, and then everybody like goes home

(01:08:42):
and practices for the next week.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Oh okay, and they're at their own house.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
It's amazing great or.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Like during COVID, I think that there was like a like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
A another tent. Everyone had their own tent and they
went back there outside. Well, well, this is going to
be really fun to talk about as the season goes on.
So thank you for that, Emily. That wraps up today
for us. I did post the schedule on at Drama

(01:09:13):
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of what's to come in the coming this week, so
please darlings check that out. And also if you want
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on Patreon. You heard today and tomorrow is going to
be the Real Housewives of New York City premiere as
and then the following and also below Deck Sailing Yacht premiere,
so those will be on Patreon. Thursday is Salt Lake
City and Friday is Orange County. So that's just you

(01:10:00):
know what we got coming up. Very exciting, Yes, indeed,
Impact jimp Act, Emily, Sorry, I kept you over time.
Thank you for thank you for being here, thank you
for showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I didn't want to do this, but please do not
admonish me on Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Oh ship, She's going to go off on me. I
gotta mute her. You guys have a great Tuesday.

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