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August 21, 2025 • 45 mins
Gossip galore for a wild midweek dish of reality TV gossip! Amy Phillips and co-host Emily Dorezas dive into Tom Sandoval's performance on 'America's Got Talent', Luann De Lesseps' stunning Playgirl feature, and some juicy tidbits about the Real Housewives of New York. Get the scoop on Raquel's $10 million lawsuit, Teresa's season one salary revelation, and the cancellation of the 'Wives on the Waves' cruise. Plus, we chat about Scheana's exciting new collaboration with Shein.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Drama, Darling drama, Darling drama, Darling.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yello, and welcome in, darlings. It is Wednesday, it is
August twentieth, and guess what we're serving up a little
bit a dish for y'all serving dish. Welcome Emily, Welcome Emily. Yeah,
how are you well? I'm doing great. I can't wait
to get into a little Wednesday mid midweek dish because

(00:45):
we've got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm no queen.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh we got a sassy.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wait what was that? That's your touch.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is wait a minute, put it up to the microphone
and let it, let it ride.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I just I just clipped the touch because it was
killing me. That's the best part of the performance. Okay,
you touch?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh my god, Emily, it's like is it?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It just as good as what he did on Traders. Yes,
nothing's better than that.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nothing's better than that, nothing's better.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
If he would have performed what he did on Traders
for America's Got Talent, he would have gone all the
way through.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh my god, he should have done a cover of
a medley of all of his yup yup, yup.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Y Yeah, darlings, he didn't make it to the next
round because of Simon. However, the rest of the gang
of America's Got Talent really loved him, had a lot
of nice things to say about him.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I didn't watch it. I just watched the clip.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, I sent the wrong clip. I sent the clip,
the short clip to Drama Darling Thread and then later
it fell scrawling. Then I saw everyone's reaction, which was
Simon's like, oh, the singing's just bad. It's just bad.
And then and then the rest of them were like,
I you are just fun. Your band is fun. I
like that. You're entertaining. You put it all out there,

(02:33):
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, you really lean You're leaning into your Chris Jenner
phase so much.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
The comments were gorgeous, gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, he wishes, I will say.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
He wishes he could look j justling me. I would
pass right through America's Got Talent. Yea, I know where I.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Think he did. They comment? Did Simon comment on the choreography?
Because that is annoying to me. I was like, dude,
you can't just show up here and do this arm
movement thing. I wanted more, not that he had to
be like, boy, babe, did you see the spin I did?
There was just some there was some oomph, there was

(03:22):
something lacking. There was not a passion there that I
could connect with.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well listen, uh no sign for me?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Dog? Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, well he only got one X from Simon, So
what can I say?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think he's entered. I think it would have been
good for the show had he continued, don't get me wrong,
and I would have been watching.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
All the clips. Yeah, one clip, not the extended clips.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You draw the line, Yeah no, but I would watch
more clips, clips, clips, clips.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Clupe Okay, one more time. Tell somebody else to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
This is terrible.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I like a band bunga. So you know how there's
a trader's civilian version, Emily. I think that you should.
I think that you should apply. Oh man, I mean
it would be so good.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I just like I talk a big game. I don't
think I want to be a trader, though I've said
it before. I could be a trader on celebrity not
I mean just in terms of I wouldn't have any
guilt because you're a celebrity. I am so famous. No,
I wish it was like that hybrid season that they did.
We're half our celebrity half aren't. But I could be

(04:53):
a trader on that. I don't know, it could be
a trader on all civilians.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
So yes, I because you're conscience, yeah, conscience. Oh yeah,
when I book this, that's right, because that's all you
could do.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And what I just said is something a trader would say.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And we'll just leave it at that, Darling, Darlings Sterling.
Speaking of Darling, I'm just going to jump over to, uh,
you know, some other news that we have going on,
and that is that, well, our gorgeous Luanne de la
SEPs has a whole article and profile on her on Playgirl.

(05:40):
In Playgirl, at least the online version, she had a
whole photo shoot, there's a whole like interview with her,
and you know, I'm looking at the article right here
online and it says at the beginning mirror Luanne de
les SEPs calls out to one of the members of
her small entourage where there's that mirror she's being shot

(06:02):
in the studio. But renowned filmmaker and photographer Timothy Greenfield Sanders,
a Grammy winner who's lends the likes of Alfred Hitchcock,
Angelica Houston, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg. With nearly five decades
of experience. He gets his shots quick quickly. He calls
Lewan over to look, and then it's just it's her
talking to the model with you know, his arms around here.

(06:24):
This is darling. She goes, literally, Darling, give me your
arms farm out, chin up. I mean, this is just amazing.
So we get like, you know, not clips quotes from
her photo shoot, and then we have this whole interview.
I mean, she looks amazing in these photos. You guys,

(06:44):
I mean, you cannot deny the beauty of Luane della SEPs.
One of the questions is who's better in bed, European
men or American men? And she answers instantly Europeans. They're
not afraid of their sexuality.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, she's got a lot of you know, it's a
great interview, great photos. And I just say, gosh, Lean,
good for you. I look at this gal. She just
keeps it, keeps it rocking.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know, she hustles, man, She's a hustler.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
She's a hustler. I'm just so proud of her. Proud. Yeah,
you've got nothing to say for Sonya.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I was just thinking, for son.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'll get my chance and the next issue A play
Girl the International version.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know, Sonya, she's gonna have a comeback. Lou had
to come back. We're seeing Lou's come back and it's awesome,
So I know Sonya will have a comeback one of
these days.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Let me ask you this, are you sensing anything in
the air when it comes to the og cast of
Real Housewives of New York? And that being said, I
literally was only again over on TikTok and it is
yet another story of Luanne and a gaggle of some
of the ogs in sag Harbor doing all of this

(08:11):
these TikTok videos together, you know, all of the trending
uh TikTok trends whatever. Like they're walking towards the camera
out to a trending song and doing like a move.
And it's Kelly Ben Simone, Jill'saron Lewane de Lesseps and
Ramona Singer. So did I say, did I say, Sonya?

(08:33):
It's not okay, Ramona's in one of them, Sonya's in
the other one. But they're all like together, And I
know that that probably doesn't seem weird to everybody, considering
that they all like summer and sag Arbor and the Amptons,
but they don't typically all get together and just start
showcasing their TikTok skills. So this is interesting.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think if anything, they're trying trying to soft launch
an internet deal. Like I think I could see them
do something on their own or something I just don't
see Bravo doing. I mean, I don't know. Individually, Yes,
all of them will have some kind of position, except

(09:20):
for Ramona back on Bravo. But I can't see all
of them together. I just don't. I don't know. But
maybe maybe all of them but Ramona, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Maybe, yeah, I just I think that there's something cooking.
It's very This is unusual to have this many together
at one time, banding together if you will.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it's smart and they should all do it more.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, it's because we're all Sonia out, because Sonya really
goes She's like a hermit, you know, if she's not
doing her cabrole esque or something that's super public, she
really does go underground. But then if you harken okay,
that's not just gonna say, or you harked back to
a couple of months ago, there were some very bizarre

(10:10):
like incidents.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think it's hard for Sonia to hang financially with
these gals. So it's better to be missing in action
and pretending that you're not available than it is to
pretend that you can hang financially. And that's just depressing.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. Yeah,
that's a great point. I never thought about that, because
every time that in between, you know, the seasons of
New York, she would always like go to a spa
in the middle of the desert, like Palm Springs or wherever,
and she'd beat this spa for you know. Actually, I'm
thinking back to COVID and she was stranded at a spa,

(10:52):
which is actually a great place to be stranded. But
she seems to get like work done and rest in
you know, detox. She's doing all that stuff. So it
never occurred to me she doesn't have the money because
she's already always doing that stuff. But maybe that's true.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think there's a there's not having the money. She
doesn't want them to feel bad for her, because I
think there's some pride involved. I want you pity, Yeah,
but like you could also support me financially, Like I
think if they would just send her checks then she'd
show up, right. But yeah, and I love her. I'm

(11:29):
just saying from what we know that might check out.
I mean, like she didn't. I mean yeah, just like
nothing is coming up for her financially. That like she
keeps thinking things are about to happen and then they don't.
I can see her.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's the same thing, you know, over and over again. Essentially.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, on another note, speaking of New York, now, I'm
going to fast forward to the current at least the
former most recent cast of the Real Housewise of New
York's It's nowhere to be found right now, but raqual
from the Real Housewives of New York. She is in
a lawsuit with her ex fiancee. She is asking for
ten million dollars, So she is basically accusing her ex fiancee,

(12:16):
who's an artist Michelaine Thomas, not to be confused with Nikolaine,
who is Lisa Vanderbum's longtime collaborator on furniture and lighting,
so please let's not get them confused. Nonetheless, he is
also an artist and they were together for like eight decade.
I'm sorry, she perhaps okay, but you're right. I think

(12:42):
that they are referring to her ex fiancee as she
so let me go with that anyway. So Raquel's Excessays
is a world renowned artist whose work can be seen
in museums around the world. She once did a mixed
media portrait of Racal that sold for one point eight million. However,
Raquel claims that McLane had sinister business practices behind closed

(13:05):
doors and she wants her to pay up. So among
these accusations, and there's alleged sexual harassment and creating a
hostile work environment and shorting her out of millions of dollars.
They split in twenty twenty and so from twenty twelve
to twenty twenty two, Raquel contributed to her artistic and

(13:30):
commercial success. So she's essentially saying like, I didn't get
any payment from that, and also something about how she
was forced to pretend that they were still in a
relationship for you know, their brand.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Essentially, why would that be her? I mean I didn't
I read a little bit, but I didn't see that part.
That would be hard to Maybe they're throwing everything at
the wall.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
But thrown at all at the wall. Yes, yeah, it
says unless she said that Mikaelaane repeatedly pressured her to
maintain their romantic relationship and fired her when she declined.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh, well, then that's legit. I mean, this all sounds legit.
I'm just saying like, I didn't see that part, and
that sounds very I wondered if she was like, I'm
not going to pay you if we break up in
terms of the money she owed, or.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, maybe maybe I said that wrong, but yeah, she
pressured her to stay in a romantic relationship. So yeah,
so we have eyes on that.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I didn't know a lot about Raquel prior to that season,
but this makes me even more frustrated with Raquel's mom
because in my mind when we watched this season, I
thought that Raquel was freshly out of her divorce from
that for the father of her kids, and I didn't
realize that that had not only had that happened a

(14:55):
very long time ago, but she had a ten year
relationship with a woman after that. And our mom is
still like not coming around on.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
This, right. I know, I completely understand, and I concurr. Okay,
let me let's talk about Teresa's Season one salary has
been announced by one Joe Judice Overrunjia's casual Ky Chaos
podcast on Monday. So he said, I think the first year,

(15:29):
you know, it was a measly twenty five thousand, and
he says, uh, he says, I says, uh, you know what,
we lost money that that season. I think the show
cost one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year because
I mean the first year because they had that party,
that ridiculous party. And he said that they paid, you know,

(15:49):
an insane amount for that party that she had.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh my god, I mean, Joe, you were costing the
family a lot of money as well. Yeah, but I
again like, yeah, that's crazy because it's also like at
the beginning of it really is the beginning of reality
TV then. I mean, yeah, other things existed, but in

(16:15):
terms of being like these women will pay for it,
that's kind of like you had to you had I mean,
you still do have to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
It was right, you had to pay to show what
you can do. Yeah, you got that money, right.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Because we're just documenting you ladies. We're just documenting it.
We're just a fly on the wall. Here.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Do what you do, what you're gonna do, and we'll
put a camera. Do what you're gonna do you know. I, Yeah,
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(25:14):
so cool. This is so cool. I love that they
are putting her. She is really a staple of the
influencer fashion, the core of it in New York City.
And I know a lot of people would disagree with me,
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(25:36):
of New York And I'm really excited to see this
because they're obviously filming there. We don't know if she's
playing herself, we don't know if she's playing a character,
and they.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Is absolutely going to play herselves. I bet yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
It's like the move now because like in Happy Gilmore Too,
did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's not yet. No, I haven't really good fun.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's so fun.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Our friend Chris Patowski, isn't that I he sure is.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
But yeah, just in terms of like cameos from influencers
and that kind of thing, like it's smart and smart.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
And it's so smart. Now it says that neither Mirror
Meryl Street Mural Streep I heard of her. Who is
the Meryl mural Street character Meryl Streep, Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci,
or Emily Blunt. Neither none were seen in the photos
with Disormo.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I mean, but you know what, probably staged by production
so that we're all talking about the movie.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, it's great, great, you know what, great, This industry,
it's great.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know what, it's great. Okay, st you know what,
cinema we got to get people to theaters. Okay, whoa,
All right, Ramona, I didn't know you were such a
cinema file.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
By the way, I will say like there, I don't
want to earlier when I kind of like they they
won't have Romona back. I mean, God, who knows what
they're gonna do, but she does entertain me. I just
don't know. I just haven't.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, I completely agree. I don't know if people are
ready for her. It seems like people still are really
cold on her, and then every once in a while
she'll pop up and do something really controversial, so I think,
you know, but I agree. I mean, look, we have
people doing controversial things every day in reality television, so
at this point, I don't I don't know. I don't
think people are ready for it yet.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Though, honestly, I'm fine with Ramona being out on her
own as an influencer and crushing it in videos. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's fine, Okay, do you know what? Thank you for
saying crushing it? Okay, you know what? I can I
tell Avery that and I think I was crushing it now.
I do think I was crushing it. For you to
say Ramona is crushing it on as an influencer.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Is saying one day, one day. I'm saying, like, if
we're talking about what Ramona's life in ten years, crushing
it in her.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Nineties, yes, on making her Chicken Alla Provence online, dancing, Yeah,
and dancing she.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Gives compelling content. I can't deny it. I don't think
I'm ready for Bravo to be like we're okay with everything,
Ramona is.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I don't think they are.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, so that's what I'm like. I'm not good with that.
But on your own, I mean, that's the beauty of
the intranets.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I could see them doing like you know, some of
the other ogs and maybe for sure Carol, maybe even Carol,
I don't know, she's doing this like documentary. She was
involved with the documentary on John Kennedy and Carolyn. Yeah, Caroline, sorry.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, no, Carolyne, Caroline.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Carolyne Bessett. Yeah, is so I apologize. I get Carolyn
and Caroline mixed.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Up a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Carolina South Carolina, Carolina on my mind, Carol,
Carolina anyway, never really I have an acquaintance named Carolina,
and so it's hard to.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, then there is Caroline too, Karen Kennedy, So here
we are what.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
His sister Oh my god, right, oh my gosh, no, wonder,
this is just too much for me to handle. But yeah,
so she's involved in this documentary and she's been promoting it,
which is why she was on Watch what happens live
with Andy Cohen, which was such a shocker. By the way,
I know this is old news, but wow, wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Who what was I reading recently where Andy does not
have any of the housewives to his home anymore? That
is off the table. And I was like, because obviously,
of all the last the lawsuit ship must have made
things weird. I was like, but is but Ratzowell is
allowed back? Right, she's former thaying again she can watch

(29:56):
the kids.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, I don't think that. But when I saw
that she was working on this documentary and that's what
she brought up on the show, it became very clear
to me that she was only doing it to promote
the documentary, which is fine, but it's not like all
of a sudden, it wasn't about them having a reconciliation finally,
after all of these years, there was a promotion behind it.

(30:19):
Do you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, it just it did feel the because the door
was hard closed. It felt on that friendship. Yeah, so
there's a little opening there. And they had such a
unique friendship, Like remember she used to watch his dog
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I didn't know that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like she would Yeah, when he was out of Town.
I read something about that allegedly a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Don't start looking. I don't want Drama Darling to be
in the line of fire because you're talking, you're telling
dog gossip. That's not true.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay, I think I think it's in this book.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Perhaps I don't know, superficial she's holding up Yeah, Andy
Cohen's first memoir.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, but I could be very wrong, but that's what
I remember, And I remember being then very sad when
there is the rift.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh god, yeah, because they do seem like they would
be on the level of being friends because of the
sophistication level for one. Yeah, but yeah, so really, at
the end of the day, it's nice that she needed
to use that plat she chose to use that platform
for the sake of something that is very close to

(31:30):
her heart, which is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And I would argue, even at the beginning of the day,
what do you mean you said at the end of
the day?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh? I was like, Well, first, I was like, is
that a book that she wrote at the end of
the day, because it does sound like something that a
book she wrote. Remains of the day, and then the
follow up.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Ball, why are there two baseballs in this game?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Right now, there remains of the day, at the end
of the day, at the beginning of the day, those
are Carol's books. That's the collection, you know what, at
the remains of the day. I think that she used
her platform to promote this documentary and that's that. And
we'd like to think there was more to it. But
she used her she used her clout to get up

(32:17):
there and speak speak on it. And Andy was like,
you know what, Okay, he could have said, no.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh, I even want to think he reached out. This
is my my fan fiction, my erotic Carol and Andy
fan fiction, is that he reached out to her to say,
why don't you come on to promote this? Yeah, and
that's an average like invited her.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Absolutely not not.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Now, you can't tell me what's in my erotic fan fiction.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
It's okay, you can write that, but but I'm writing
the actual, the factual novel. Well, I'm writing the documentary
on it. And he said, I'm bringing the facts. I'm
doing dateline over here. And that did not happen. There's
no way. She was like Annie, well, like her people

(33:06):
got in touch with his people. They probably didn't even talk.
And then like their people talked and I was like, okay,
and then maybe they sent a text to each other.
That's like, Andy maybe sent a text here like Hey,
I'm really excited that you're going to come on the show.
It's going to be really nice to reconnect again. And
she was like, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Somebody needs to call it. Can Darling's can one of
you call? Because Amy will she won't do this for me.
And I know it, even though it's my birthday. It's
not such a lie.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Darling's higher came on you.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
He's gonna say this on Radio Andy. So somebody asked
Radio Andy, on Radio Andy did how did that come about?
How did the interview? He probably already said it. We're
just like, I wonder if he'll ever tell us. Meanwhile,
He's like, I said it day one.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I don't know. Yeah, I feel like we would have
heard about that in the news, but it wasn't. That
was not the story out there, all right, So we
will not be getting to the bottom of that Annie
time soon.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I will go up with a sky.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's almost like Marisel sounds like she's excited about the
sty you know.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I know, I know in her little eyepatch.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I woke up with a stye, I will up with
a sky. All right, let's talk about Wives on the Waves.
Wives on the Waves? Whoa, Okay, this is some These
are some really rocky waves. These are some turbulent waves.
Because it is canceled. Okay, it is this, This Real

(34:46):
Housewives theme cruise experience has been canceled. This was supposed
to be uh, Teresa, Shannon Badour. Who's the third one.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Wasn't it gonna be Ramona Dolor? Yes?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
So no, it was going to be jen Aiden, And
then jen Aiden was replaced with Shannon Badore because jen
Aiden is such a huge asshole at Jimmy John's in
the airport that she had taken off of that. And
then Shannon Badoor was like, I don't even know what
Jimmy John's is, and they were like, you're in, and
so then this was all happening, and then everyone got

(35:26):
the notice. As of today, August fifteen, twenty twenty five,
due to unforeseen circumstances, we are rescheduling the cruise to
a later date. The dates and times will be announced
in the coming days and weeks. And this is on
Norwegian Escape. This was supposed to be September nineteenth through
the twenty fourth, and so yeah, a lot of people

(35:49):
are alleging that they canceled it because due to the
low amount of tickets sold. Allegedly. Now let me tell
you this, but.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's not canceled. It's postponed indefinitely.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean, right, but it's probably never gonna.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I know, but it is isn't a different thing.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
But I think that that. I think that the cruise
itself is going, but the experience is not. Do you
see what I'm saying that I think that's what it is.
I'm not quite sure, but then I was looking and
you know what, you know what? Okay, now Ramona's on
my mind. This is it says, Wives on the Waves
is a five night luxury cruise. No, No, five nights.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Five nights. That's what all those cruises, those theme not
those celebrity experienced cruises are like.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
No, not five nights. The Captain Sandy one was like
maybe two nights. That's what you need. You want to
get out and you want to get back in. We're
not spending five nights with with the Lord each night.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
It is a chance thing, though, And so there's enough
of them that I think that they could do do something.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I love your positivity, but this is a grave error.
They need to cut it by two days at the
very least, if not three.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh why, no one has.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Five days to spare, including the travel days. That's like
an entire week, no one's I mean, as much as
we love the housewives, we can't give them seven days
of our time.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
To agree with that, I agree with that. I think
that the gals could fill five days, but they don't
need to.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh sure, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on board with that.
They can fill five days. They'd love to fill five days. Yeah,
I can fill eight days. Give me a I was
at Love Hotel for twelve and yeah, I can do
to it. I don't have to take nobody to dance
for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I wonder why they did now that we're saying that, like, yeah,
three days, like Bravo cons not five days?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Oh my god? Can you imagine? Why would they even
think that this is the worst idea? As much as
I love the name wives on the waves, and I
feel like they've done this before maybe or have they not?
And not it's never been this successful. Well maybe I'm
getting it confused with Captain Sandy's, which has been extremely
polarizing considering the whole gurdy of Julia situation. Anyway, let's

(38:21):
just say it's probably best that it was canceled.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Well, maybe it's also was a cost thing, like maybe
their price points were very high, so it had to
be the five day instead of a three day like
they you know what I mean, who knows? But yeah,
like it does seem like a choice was made and
that was the choice.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, a choice was made and it was broken. Okay,
so that's fun. That's that's real fun. Oh have you
seen that Melissa and Joe are going to be on
Celebrity Weakest Link? I didn't even know that show was
like still going.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I didn't know Melissa and Joe were still going,
Like I good for them.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
What is going to happen with Jersey?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Where are we with that? I saw some a lot
of interesting little little snippets yesterday that popped up from
like sources that I don't know are like really legit.
So I just but I'll report anyway that they're going
to have Teresa's going to have her own show, and
that they're going to recast Jersey and it's going to

(39:33):
be all surrounding Margaret Joseph's. Those are the rumors as
of today, August what nineteenth, twentieth.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, you know, we remember last season there was talk
of Teresa having her own show, her and Louis. I
don't think as much as I I don't know what
a Teresa's only show is going to look like. She's
got to have somebody to work off of, like against
not yet, so I don't know what that is. I
will you, I am the third. I just finished a

(40:03):
third episode of Bravo Docket about the Dina Manzo Tommy
Manze trial, and it is fascinating. Oh god, yeah, those
are the three newest episodes and it's just like, Wow,
what's doing over that Brownstone Critzy holy smokes?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah yeah, But anyway, I do think that like Gia
being on Next Gen now, like I don't know what
the what Teresa's life is in terms of reality TV
on her own I think like I don't know if
I I don't know if I care about that show.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Sure, sure, well those are the rumors as of right now.
Also a couple of spottings of of like cast that
are filming. We've got Beverly Hill in Florence, Italy. Right now,
some pastor buyers have been taking some snaps of that.
All right. Lastly, let's talk about the big collab between

(41:11):
Sheen and Sheena. This is huge for her, very big,
very exciting. She's been promoting. I did send you the
link to her you know, her line or like collection
over on Shean and she's been doing lots of fashion videos.
You know, she looks great. She looks amazing with her

(41:31):
book and her Shean collab. She's she's really she's really
doing good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I'm so curious about this because remember Teresa and her
daughters had a collab. Yeah, oh right, right, yeah, so
I don't I'm I'm just curious to know what the
deal is, like the literal deal.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
With the monetary Yeah, oh okay, yeah, I'm interested too. Well,
I I you know, of course, with she and like
I'm on their site, I'm on her page where it's
supposed to show all of you know, the things, you know,
I scroll down and it's just a spinning wheel, like
it's not going to go any further. It's so annoying.
But from what I can see, I mean, I can

(42:12):
definitely see at least ten looks here there's a kid's
outfit and you can on she and you can say,
I mean, and you can see that it says like
on this little girl's jumps jumper, it's like five hundred
plus sold, so you can see, I mean, I don't
know if that's true, but there's like eight hundred plus sold,
two hundred plus sold, one hundred plus sold, nine hundred

(42:35):
plus sold of this gown. So, I mean, the numbers
are pretty darn good. These really bizarre plumey looking bloomer
shorts that are I didn't had no idea that this
was in style. A thousand sold, so this is where
I was wearing masks.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Okay, well, I'm I mean, I guess I'm just wondering,
like she, they had these items prior to Shena, and
then Sena comes in, so then they then she puts
looks together right sales before Sheena.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh interesting, like they've already been on the website. Yeah,
that makes so much sense. Okay, got it, got it?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And also it would make sense marketing wise. You want
to have the thing that everybody else has, so maybe
they they change the numbers up a little too. But
I don't know, but I think that I have to
think like that's part of it, is like these are
pieces that are already there, the.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Dollars already there, but now they've they've gotten my signature
on it. Sheena X she In she and x Sheena
Good as Gold collection.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
By the way, if you haven't subscribed to patreon dot
com s Last Drama Darling, do so. Now you can
hear our fabulous book recap Sheena's book recap, which Emily,
Jamie and I did the other day. We had so
much fun with it, and I encourage you all to
subscribe and listen, and also follow our Instagram page that

(44:15):
is Instagram dot com slash Yeah yea Drama Darling.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Show finally promoted this ship.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
You okay, well, good luck. You can also follow m
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Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's me.

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