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November 15, 2024 • 91 mins

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Imagine the world as a holographic illusion, a tantalizing notion that our guest, Carl Crusher, explores with keen insight. Known for his investigative prowess on shows like "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch" and "Beyond Skinwalker," Carl brings firsthand accounts of probing into mysterious locations like Mount Wilson Ranch and Hestalen, Norway, where government interests in UFOs and the paranormal intersect. Join us as Carl unveils the creative strategies behind leveraging a film company to document these adventures, turning expenses into savvy business deductions, and maintaining a private life amidst public intrigue.

Our conversation with Carl takes us through mind-bending ideas about the universe's symphony of frequencies, parallel dimensions, and the potential of entities residing within them. We venture into the enigmatic Skinwalker Ranch, where the boundaries of reality seem to blur, and reflect on the wisdom of indigenous cultures and organized religions in understanding these phenomena. Through the lens of language, music, and rituals, we explore how our reality is shaped and how historical contexts influence our understanding of sovereignty and identity.

The journey doesn't stop there. We delve into ancient mysteries and secret societies, examining the Anunnaki, Sumerians, and pyramid-like structures in North America. Personal experiences with UFO encounters and the role of scientific sensors in documenting such phenomena add a layer of intrigue. Lastly, we look at the lasting impact of the Roman Empire, the significance of family trusts, and the notion of identity as a foreigner or "alien" within legal systems, while celebrating personal milestones of financial freedom and the power of breaking free from convention. Join us for an episode where the past, present, and possible futures intertwine in a tapestry of cosmic curiosity.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peace and love.
It's your boy, don Kalam, alsoknown as Malik Kalam.
You're in the building withDream Keepers Radio, the podcast
, and I'm with Carl Crusher allthe way from Southern Utah.
Correct, that's right?
Hey, man, tell me a little bitwhat you do.
I heard you was on the HistoryChannel.
I heard that part.
Yeah, that's an amazingaccomplishment right there.
Oh, thank you.
You was on Ancient Aliens orsomething.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Kind of yeah, so you, you was on ancient aliens or
something kind of yeah, sothere's the.
The top show right now isactually one called the secret
of skinwalker ranch, and theydid a spin-off show, a spin-off
show called beyond skinwalker.
So I was kind of like a, aresearch scout that went around
and found other locations thathave the same ufo and paranormal
phenomena that the government'suh researched at and so I've

(00:43):
seen this skinwalker range.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's when, like a real, like a billionaire or
somebody bought it right, yeah,yeah, and he was keeping
everything secret.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, so the government invested in private
contractors, specifically BobBigelow here from Vegas he still
has his headquarters here inVegas, wow.
And they bought a property herein Nevada at a place just north
of area 51 called mount wilsonranch.
That's the place that I foundand started researching, and

(01:12):
that same guy also ownedskinwalker ranch in utah.
So they went public withskinwalker ranch and like
announced that he owned it, butthey kept the one here in nevada
a secret.
but at both places they weredoing like close encounters,
research, trying to contactaliens.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
So the government does research on
extraterrestrials.
Yeah, really so, so you can sayit's real man right.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
They've put millions of dollars into reverse
engineering programs.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
They don't even do that in the projects where I'm
from.
No Right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Instead of putting it into the communities, it's more
contacting aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Wow, so this is what you actually do.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah.
So I go down to all thesedifferent hot spots associated
with that.
I try to find the areas wherethe government has actually
invested money in research, Likeone of the places I just came
back from was Hestel in Norwayand they had a Project Blue Book
.
Sent a guy named J Allen Hynekover there.

(02:15):
Project Blue Book yeah, that'sa whole government program.
So he spent time over there inthis valley in Norway.
So I just kind of go to thesespots that we know that the
government's been and researchedand I try to see what's real
and what's not.
Go follow up with that.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I study law.
That's what I study.
I'm not a licensed attorney.
Tax tax, what I do is foreducational, informational
purposes.
I don't know how to get adisclaimer out there Right, but
with that being stated, to me,alien means something different.
So if I change my status to analien, you think I can get
funding you could.
I mean ain't that how it works?
Ain't that what foreign aid isto aliens?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
and also that I think there's even benefits to the
belief systems and religious ortribal elements that you could
factor into belief.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, we're gonna get to the private life later
because you're adept to that aswell.
You have to be but I just wantto know more about what you do
so yeah this is your job yeah toto do what track
extraterrestrial activity yeah,so full-time, basically on paper
.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm a, I'm an actor, a cast member for a film company
that I own.
That's all embedded in there soyou're about that private life.
I am about the private life,yeah, so technically, all all my
clothes is wardrobe, my right,all my travel and trips and all
that I get it for, like my tripexpenses as a filmmaker, all

(03:39):
right and so I go.
I like that yeah, I like that.
So now all my trip expenses, myfuel, all of that is under the
film company.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I like that.
See, you got me thinking aboutthe private again, so I never
thought about this.
So, if I created a film company, they couldn't touch, because,
listen, I'm telling you what Ibelieve in, because obviously
you're a conspiracy theorist aswell if you believe in the
aliens, right?

(04:10):
I believe they took away ourphoto albums, our family
paintings, they, they try towipe away our history, right?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
so you could put your photo albums under the film
filmmakers all that, everythingthat you film and all that
becomes like that, that recordthat you're recording, that
endowment that your film isfilmmaking yes, yeah, and you're
recording that endowment, thatyou're filmmaking, spam history,
yes, yeah.
And then you are an actorwithin that, within the company
that's owned by the Trust, andthen the company even rents a

(04:39):
room out in your house as a filmstudio to podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I get all of that because I do it as a record
company.
Yeah, I have Goodyear Records.
It's in Arizona, then I gotGoodyear Entertainment.
It's in Arizona, then I gotGoodyear Entertainment.
It's a record company.
That's what establishes myfaith-based organizations as a
nonprofit, but I do it asentertainment.
It captures all my intellectualproperties.
Like you know, the nameTrademarks and name Record

(05:05):
companies do life life insuranceright all of that everything
you know.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So that's how I do it , but you can do it on the film
company under film company,because then your hair and
makeup travel, though you cantravel foreign places and then,
as a diplomat and a filmmaker,documenting your trip and
everything to foreign countries,all of that so you know where
the diplomat is as well.
Yeah, everything becomes anexpense, like a deduction.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's what it is.
So that's what I tell the world, my private community, who
cares about bills?
They're deductions.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
They're not bills, they're deductions.
Everything becomes a businessexpense that's at a cost to your
company.
Now, as a filmmaker, your hairmakeup, clothes, travel, and
then even a certain amount everyweek per diem for lunch.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
If you have company parties, meal plans, food prep,
you can get a private chef andevery day you have a business
meeting.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You can create film contracts with yourself and your
other colleagues and thingslike that, and then your gym
membership to get ready for thatrole as an actor is always
called fringe benefits yes,stipends and benefits.
It's all there, totally what Ido?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
yes, I, it comes from the church, though, yes, you
know I, I do music and alleverything that I speak on all
my intellect because I haveASCAP and.
BMI.
I have my record label withASCAP and then my actual
non-calamity with BMI and that'smy publishing.
They go grab that and anything,because YouTube don't pay me,

(06:36):
they demonetize me, yeah, yeah.
So I get it all, though.
I get it all, but I do my musicon my reels.
I got millions of views, yeah,on my reels and my music in the
background.
A lot of people don't know thatit's your own music, yes, my
own music right.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, the music is really where they police
everything on youtube.
They can really track it withtheir algorithms right, right,
right yeah, and I.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I get royalty checks just for my music every three
months every 90 days likeclockwork, nice like.
So that's amazing.
I start off with making my namean LLC, yeah, and then that's
going to be the operatingcompany, because it's out here.
The holding company is inNevada, actually, because it's a
charge and under protectionstate.
There's five charge and underprotection states and you can

(07:19):
remain anonymous in these statesif you choose to.
You don't have to reportanything to the IRS and there's
no taxes.
That's Nevada, alaska, delaware, wyoming and South Dakota.
I don't know if you knew that oraware of that.
And then I have the beneficiaryowner be my private trust.
You can do a South Dakota trust, but I show my private members
where to go to get offshoretrust to handle all of that.

(07:43):
One of them is Cook.
You know you can get a holdingcompany in dubai, um, just
foreign income or alien.
But you gotta see theforeigners got rights right and
and because everybody is foreignto the united states
corporation anyways, peopledon't understand that.
So that's how I look at aliensand that's how I said I was

(08:05):
looking at things.
But I do believe inextraterrestrial activity.
I believe in those things, Ibelieve in different realms, I
believe in um.
You talked about shape shifters, yeah, so you believe in those.
Have you caught?
One of those you've seen?
One of those I've seen was atthe ranch, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
yeah, I've seen things that you would classify
as a like a shadow figure thatchanged shapes, and I've seen
what would be like you believethose are aliens I, I do, but I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Depends on what you consider an alien to be or where
they come from I haven't openedup about a lot of stuff that
I've witnessed, but I'vedefinitely seen shadow people,
but I I thought they were justlike um, you know, maybe a lower
, lower level entity.
You know they don't do goodthings when they show up.
It's evil activity.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
So I've heard you talk about this, though, so you
believe the universe basicallyis like music, right, like
everything is like a symphonyand there's different
frequencies and vibrations andsound like a symphony and
there's different frequenciesand vibrations and sound.
So we have our physical realityand our linear timeline is an

(09:12):
illusion of that, where we'relike existing on a certain
bandwidth of that frequency thatwe call physical reality.
That's like Earth.
We are sitting on this couchright now and it's all very
convincing, like it's actuallyreal, right, right, like a
hologram.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
We know everything is atoms and vibrations.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, so we're in a solidified vibration of that.
That's where it's actuallyphysical.
But that doesn't mean that justbelow us in the basement, or
above us there or next door,there isn't parallel dimensions,
or frequencies, just like youhave on a, on an iphone or on
your phone.
Right now you have multiplealbums that could be downloaded

(09:45):
and saved in there, thatliterally all exist parallel to
each other, simultaneous, justas like energy and information
on the hard drive.
And the universe could be thesame way where we consider the
souls of the dead to go or otherextraterrestrial life.
It might not actually be fromother planets in outer space,
but it could be on theseparallel dimensions that are

(10:07):
right next to us.
But then you have these placeslike skinwalker ranch or pestle
and bally or these other weirdhot spots that the government's
been, where our reality might bedistorted or have a thin spot
or a giant wolf being there,right, right.
Yeah, we're like things from thepast things from the past or
the future and alternateparallel timelines, like bleed

(10:30):
through and slip through intoour reality and we glimpse them
or interact with them for aminute and then they're gone and
it's like that's likeparanormal.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So when I was looking when I was watching about skin
walking range.
I'm telling you this was just acouple weeks ago, so it was
crazy.
We've been talking about it but, um, you know, the only person
people they could talk to aninterview and get answers from
was, you know, old tribes,indigenous people, indigenous
people, yeah, yeah, they can't.
You know, this is the onlypeople they're like.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
These are the only people that can explain this
that's the only place that I'vebeen able to get answers to my
own experiences, because I wasraised in organized religion in
the Mormon church.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I liked your organized religion.
So I study your organizedreligion, so I just need you to
know that.
And when I help certain people,they shut them down.
Just know that it's verysimilar to Jehovah's Witnesses.
Were you raised Jehovah'sWitness, then my mom, let me do
what I want.
So, yes, but not.

(11:32):
I was everywhere, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
But when I?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
seen.
So listen, when I startedstudying sovereignty, I went
straight to.
I was raised by Amish people,though, too, we used to go to
their stores, so I thought aboutAmish people, and then I
thought about how Jehovah'sWitnesses didn't have to do the
Pledge of Allegiance.
I said, okay, okay, they knowsomething.
But I'd seen, you know, I'dnever seen a Jehovah's Witness
locked up, except a couple blackfolks, yeah, but they was

(11:58):
always enlightened though.
Yeah, jehovah's Witnesses werealways one step ahead of the
curve.
That's when I learned what theword synopsis is.
To this day, I know how tocreate a synopsis.
I know how to say the word ineverything.
But Jehovah Witnesses I know,when they become successful,
they band together.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know, and they reach up quick.
But you know, we already talkedabout the degrees.
Once you start waking up,they're like, hey, we've been
waiting for you, son, yeah, yeah.
But one thing that you stuckout to me, because I came up
through the Moors, I alwayswanted to be a Mason.
I always studied them as anearly age, I don't know what
fascinated me.
I didn't know.
Moors were actually Masons,right, I just told the truth in
the public the original Masons.

(12:46):
Yeah, and I started learningabout that.
So you know, I'm initiated into, I am a more you know, and only
only thing I have to do is tellpeople that they have a
nationality, that they're notwhite, they're not black, no,
you are white.
White means purity.
Purity means god, god, supremerule of the earth.
Yeah, they can't own land.
They can only own the building.
Right, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, they can only shape, shift on paper I know right,
right, I can bear it, it's allillusions right.
Everything they do is the magic.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's all spells casting illusions.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Paper word casting getting you to give oaths and
covenants, that's it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's what music does, though, so you hear a
certain frequency of vibration.
Now she's shaking her booty ina club, thinking she's going to
find love yeah, and that's howlife works.
Or when your mama says yourfirst and your middle name, your
whole soul shakes.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Your whole life.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
When they say your full, middle and last name, I
said your mom.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I said your mom Because it's different when your
mother says it than when thegovernment says it yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's called a.
They make you say it with yourhand on the Bible.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
They make you swear on the Bible.
They make you swear your fullname and spell it out on the
Bible.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
They make you say it all caps, but you understand,
the Bible is your lineage.
Yeah, and when you have thebirth certificate, that puts you
at the slave status as a Romanslave, because it's still in the
Roman law, they're in the canonlaw, ecclesiastical law.
That's why he has a mourningrobe and the judge wears the
black robe, the pope wears thewhite one.
That's the whole reason theyuse the Bible.
Yeah, no doubt.
That's why you have tointroduce your family Bible.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
There's probably a lot of people.
Well, your audience probablygets all this talk, but a lot of
people that would hear us talklike this would not even
understand what we're talkingabout.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's like another coded language, right?
No, this is all hanging aroundpeople that know my language.
It ain't nothing new to me.
I'll hang out with you if youcan't talk my language.
I just learned how to createthat atmosphere, right, how to
create my reality.
You know, before Oprah was abillionaire, she had to believe
it first.
You can't just bring something,so I just if it's.
I learned how just to payattention to the people that is

(14:46):
going to feed me prosperity andfeed my soul, feed my spirit
correctly.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, you know I don't even try to fit in, you
can't.
Oh yeah, once you understandhow the universe and how your
life works, like that you can'tcheat it right.
You realize that, pushingagainst that there's laws in
place, like natural laws of theuniverse, that have a reflex
that I'm glad you said naturallaw.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So, um, I I call it is Islam, I self-law and master.
You know, gravity is a law.
What goes up, it's gonna comedown.
Gravity is the actual law.
So I look at things like that.
You know the law of attractionright you know that's one of
people's favorite laws that theytalk about, but there's more
laws than that.
You know, right, duality, right.

(15:30):
That's just this realm.
I consider this realm a testrealm yeah you know, and I do
believe in higher beings andhigher entities, but, starting
off, I believe we're foreign tothis realm.
I believe you know, this realmwas created for a safe haven, so
to speak, and it's beeninfiltrated and that was duality
.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's why I think the whole idea of UFOs, the
paranormal and supernaturalpeople like brush it off.
But when you actually getaround the physicists, the
engineers, the scientists,they're involved in it.
They consider it like theforefront of evolutionary
consciousness and absolutelyit's like the, the inspirational

(16:11):
glimpse that lets you peekbehind the curtain to realize
that the reality that we're incomes baked in with these
man-made laws.
But there's something out therethat isn't following that, that
isn't obeying those rules atall.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I believe that this system because it's a system-
yes.
I believe it's AI.
It's been AI for a long timeand the system is the puppet
master Right.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
mean, and it's something higher up, a higher
being, but I believe the closestthing to God is a woman and the
closest thing to the devil is awoman.
That's what I believe.
No offense to anybody out there, but it takes a man to raise a
man but a woman to raise anation.
So a nation can only go as highas its woman it nation.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
So a nation can only only go as high as is woman.
It's true and technically inlike old esoteric stuff and when
you get into this the idea oflike the divine masculine and
the divine feminine are twoequals or two sides of the same
coin, to where we have all ofphysical creation and
manifestation and the power tomanifest and and create and
build things and write books anddo all that stuff is like a
masculine force in the world.

(17:17):
But then there's this emptinessor this space around it that
remains untouched.
That's like a womb or thisperfect untouched void the womb
is the divine is this divinefeminine, but it coalesces into
this matrix the matrix meanswomb.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, what matrix means?
A lot of people don't know that.
The matrix does mean womb, likea lot of people don't know that
.
So I always looked at the,because I believe the moon is
ascended master, the sun isascended master.
I always believe that that'sthe hologram that makes up the
earth.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, ancient people you mentioned too.
They everywhere.
They have these stone circles.
They were doing geomancy, likethe tribal circles and old stuff
and stone.
And all that stuff was to dowith the rotation of the Big
Dipper around the North Star.
The Big Dipper, oh wow.
So you had the Big Dipper, ursaMajor, going around the North

(18:09):
Star, and they call it like theWheel of Time because it circles
around, but really it's like abig phallus, it's like a big
ball of hot rocks, the northstar, and that they call it like
the wheel of time because itcircles around, but really it's
like a big phallus, it's like abig ball right it's going around
, like reproduction around, it'slike the masculine and feminine
force of the universe.
So they were doing rituals liketime travel rituals for I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I mean, everything is of the stars, everything's of
the sky.
You know, sunday the sun,monday, the moon was tuesday's,
venus wednesdays thursdays thorfriday, you know, saturday,
saturday, yeah, yeah, everything.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Man janus, that's a greek god because they, you know
we talk about speaking spells.
But think about, from when youwere born, your parents, in
school and society embedded thatlanguage into your own thoughts
, your own thinking in your ownhead is in a language that was
taught to you.
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Like literally, I had a dinner last week and they
still try to force me to believethe sky is blue.
I said you can't.
They're like we can all agreeon the sky is blue.
I'm like, no, we can't becauseyou can't see what I see and you
can't force me to say that wesee the same colors.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You can't force me to say that we see the same thing.
You can't force me, you knowyou can't, like we, we, we could
look out there and both call itblue, but what you're actually?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
seeing though what you're actually seeing as a
witness could be completely yeah, you don't even know you was
programmed to believe what youthink you see Right, and that's
how Don Kalam got ahead in lifeby thinking outside the box.
Just erase it.
The smartest people that I everassist are the ones who can't

(19:47):
read and write.
Spelling, spellcasting wetalked about that right them are
because.
And then when they discover DonKalam because they've been told
they're stupid their whole life, they're not hijacked I get to
show them.
All they gotta do is get theirmind under control, because you
can't be programmed right.
Who's smarter?
Somebody with autism or someonepaying taxes?
The dog?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
dogs breathing it identifies the dog, y'all it is
a lot harder when you're like 30, 35 years in the in the system
right, and then you wake up andyou try to fix it all.
It's a hot mess, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Get high forgive it all smoke weed everybody.
You gotta climb out of that.
I forget shit, but listen, so II just like.
For me it's easier to rememberthe truth because I don't
remember my lies.
I've always been a bad liar andI didn't know that when I
decided to just tell the truthbecause I don't remember my lies
.
I've always been a bad liar andI didn't know that when I
decided to just tell the truthbecause I got tired of getting
caught up in lies, I didn't knowthat the truth rewarded the

(20:39):
subconscious.
Right, it's always now, so youcan forget about yesterday.
You ain't got to worry aboutshit.
That's how I look at it.
The answer is for deciding onnow, d-o-n.
I don't know now.
Or dreams obey narrators,because you write the script,
you do.
Yeah, I used to be in nursingschool, stanford director of
nursing.
You were yeah, yeah, yeah, Iwas in nursing school first.

(21:01):
That was the first time I everwent to college.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I didn't know that?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, then I got a case.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
You're like no, I don't want to do this, not for
me this not for me.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
She happens, she happened.
Yeah, so we always studied law,though.
I've been studying law since Iwas 17, but, like we were saying
, when I first started, I wasjust studying codes and statutes
yeah that's horrible, butyou're never gonna get it.
That's all these attorneys have.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I didn't even think about that.
All these attorneys, all theydo is is work codes and statutes
.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
They just yeah, they just shuffle on the, the abacus
of the surface of it.
They don't step back and seethe whole castle yeah that's,
that's, crazy right so have you?
You've had accountants, you'veseen aliens yeah, I guess you
could say that I've definitelyhad experiences that you would
call like abduction experiencesand interactions you've been

(21:52):
abducted.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
That sounds like right yeah well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
There's a whole missing time and everything
involved with it, so I don'tknow, that happens to me
sometimes too.
You don't wake up with no weirdhoes or nothing no, I've woke
up on different parts of thehouse, on the different floor of
the house.
Wow, when I was a kid I wouldwake up he was stomaching them?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
no way he was looking for him.
Right, I was looking for him.
Yeah, was you looking for him?
Then I was a kid, I would wakeup.
You were stumbling on them.
No way you was looking for them?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
right, I was looking for them, yeah, was you looking
for them then?
Not as a kid?
No, I was terrified as a kid.
I go looking for them now.
Now, as an adult, I'm likelooking for answers, but shit
shows up when you're looking forit.
Yeah, now, technically, notonly do looking for them, but I

(22:36):
have, like scientific sensors inmy house that are monitored and
that data when I have anencounter and experience,
something follows me home, allthat gets recorded and even goes
back into a study, yeah, so I'msure you see some shit out
there yeah, I mean it's all over.
I've I've been in other parts ofthe world the mountains are
different, yeah, they aredifferent the whole state, this
whole area.
Area 51 is right over thosemountains there.
Wow, right over there.

(22:56):
It's where they're supposed tokeep the airmen can't see it.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But yeah, well, so we did.
We did so.
Look, I, I said on the news,I've seen somebody on the news,
I've been into um, I've beeninto this.
Ufo just means unidentifiedflying objects.
So yeah, it can be anything.
You know, it could, it couldeven be military.
You know, it could be a lot ofdifferent things you know.

(23:23):
But I've been into these things.
First started, I studied deepand I started learning about the
Anuki.
The Anuki I don't know ifyou've studied that or know
anything about that.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Like the ancient Sumerians and all that like how
they came down here.
There's mining gold orsomething yeah, I think there's
evidence.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I don't know if it was necessarily them or where
they came from, but I think youhave different cultures all over
the world that reported almostthe same type of interaction.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
If you go in the book of ezekiel how it was explained
to me that was a ufo.
They were trying to explain,but they can only use the
wording that they had.
Yeah, but you know you onlypoke if you, if there's
something that comes outside ofwhat's your program with your
words, you don't know how toexplain it right, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
But everywhere that that happened you see the same
things like in egypt ormesopotamia or south america.
Those cultures all for likethree thousand years, all built
pyramids like and did right thesame.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, there's something in st louis, where I'm
from they're all over yeah,it's in it wasn't.
It's in the illinois side, theyou know, the mound builders
were there is that?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
where is that st louis so is?
I was trying to remember wheremonk's mound is.
I think that's in ohio what isthat?
But yeah, there's pyramids herein america.
My family.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
yeah, my family come from the mound people for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's part of thetribe.
They go everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
The Moors, so they get a lot of people that talk
about the mud, flood and, likethe old, like a lot of these
ancient buildings that werefounded you know how they all
play word games were actuallyfound, like, I think, even the
mormon salt lake temple.
When the pioneers came, I thinkthey found that building
already there and went in and Ithink there's a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
In trustee training I teach there's a difference
between founded by and funded byright, found, found it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's like they found it and then we founded it
somebody else funds it yeah butthat's.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's the same way of like all these acbus.
People don't know that.
Um, the rockefellas withendowments.
They have endowments with therockefellas, so they'll always
feed the rockefeller familyright um, and that's what we
talk about the mormons.
What'd you, what'd you sayabout the endowments of the
mormons?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
you go through and receive an endowment so they
have it built into the religion.
When you go up and decide thatyou're going to do the rituals
within the temple, they buildtheir big billion-dollar temples
all over the place.
The membership goes in toreceive their endowment
specifically and that's aprocess where you go in and

(25:47):
basically you have your givenname right.
So I'm Carl.
Andresen is my given name.
My congregation is gonnaunderstand everything all this
right so I love it, but it'sbuilt into a religion that came
out of the 1800s.
So you got to fathom.
It's a masonic order that tookon a christian covering and does
all this embedded.

(26:08):
So you go through as a memberand they don't teach you this.
You have to figure it out later.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
It's being hoodwinked .
Yeah, that's the great numberone.
Welcome, son.
You've been hoodwinked.
You learned you got picked.
Now welcome to degree numbertwo, right.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
So you go there and they literally, when I went
through, you take all yourclothes off and put on a white
apron.
It's all ritualized.
You get initiated, they washyou and anoint you with water
and oil, and then you get a newname, which is a hebrew name,
one of the 12 tribes that you'readopted into.
So you're no longer like anamerican citizen now.

(26:46):
You're of the tribe of israel,adopted into the family, right
oh, tribe life.
And then, as soon as you'regiven the new name and adopted
into the tribal life, then yougo through and receive your
endowment.
But immediately as you receivethe endowment, you make oaths
and covenants to give them allto God and all to the church.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oaths and covenants Key words.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oaths and covenants and then, after you go through
the rituals of all the oaths andcovenants, literally making
handshakes with the officiatorsto receive them all and give
them all officially, then you goup, one at a time and pass
through the veil, which isliterally like the Wizard of
Oz's curtain.
And you have to give them thesecret handshakes and passwords,

(27:30):
and then they welcome you intoheaven.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Do you get consultations on a private life.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
No, but it's all baked in.
You could, though, but that'sthe whole thing.
They hijack it all.
So right, when you're supposedto receive your new identity,
you're supposed to receive yourtribe, you're supposed to now
become an independent, sovereignsoul Instead, right then is
when you raise your arm and giveit all to them.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Sounds like the record label.
Sounds like the United States.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And you sell your soul immediately.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
It sounds like every organization out there.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, so my whole thing was, when I realized all
of that, that was a privateagreement, though, so the
government can't interfere withthat contract.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
That's amazing.
Shout out to the Mormons man.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
But see, but then the church as a corporation uses
all of that membership for their$300 billion industry and their
tax write-offs and everything.
And they claim all of that.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, all your assets is probably theirs.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
You gave it to them, you gave it All to God.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
So listen, literally that's what I do with the
kingdom of Cologne.
I gave everything to God.
Yes, and that's how I maneuverand, just like you said, your
clothes, they pay for that.
That's your wardrobe.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I got to remember that this is my wardrobe.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's your wardrobe now on camera.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know that's how I used to do, so I can, uh could
be a deductible it's all part ofit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah all of thatand I didn't want it.
I didn't want, I didn't wantcannabis to be a liability and
then you see why.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Why, like uh kanye, all of a sudden comes out and
releases a whole Christian albumand starts a church.
Oh no, doubt.
These guys.
They get in a cornerfinancially and they realize
what they've done with theirempire and they don't own
anything.
They don't own their name ornothing.
And you see them all of asudden.
We're opening a church andtheir next album is all about
Jesus.

(29:30):
And their whole brand is allbased on that and they flip
right.
It's like you saw prince andmichael jackson all these guys
literally almost get destroyedthe hard way I mean, michael
jackson is smart, you know, andhe was part of this tribe and um
, just so you know.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
They warned him about the illuminati and shit, but he
chose to continue.
But they did have to say in thethriller video but they did not
.
The jehovah witness startedshunning him because of the
thriller video.
People don't know that, butit's private life.
You got a private tribe.
You gotta understand howpowerful these organizations are
because the army can't.
They ain't messed with themormons yet or the jehovah

(30:05):
witnesses.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
These people are powerful, right powerful and
even the, the government.
You run into these same pocketsand systems and shells that
they create within the alien andufology and that research how
they, how they move money aroundand secret information and if
they do find something, how theyown it within certain families

(30:27):
and corporations and entities.
And that's why even thepresident's, like I don't know,
I don't know what's out in area51, is because our country has
been built and designed for thisto happen, for I mean certain
people to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
There's not.
There's, so there's evenconspiracy theories that the fk,
because you know they said hewas going to release about the
gold standard, things like that.
Try to switch it up.
We get all your money when youwork.
But they said he was also goingto talk about how they've had
contact with um aliens aliens.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yes, that was one of the main things they shot him
for and when you, when yourealize how much money is
involved in those privatecontracts and that reverse
engineering and the weaponstechnology, and that you know
that's their bread and butter.
If you had, if you had accessto a time machine or if you had
like think about it, like, butdidn't know how to make it work,

(31:17):
that would be everything liketo be able to get the code on
that.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
No, so like what?
What really had me like.
I studied it just all night andall day for like three weeks
straight.
I didn't get no sleep.
I came across some book camerawas called or anything but they
said it was from russia and itwas like they they translated it
like they had the russian bookand they had the translation
version and it was like 101species they've contacted in

(31:42):
russia, the the russiangovernment has contacted.
Uh, you know, I've seen thegreys, they said the greys is
the most common yeah um alien,that's me, that that contacts
humans right so you, but you go.
Do you have you ever seen a cropcircle?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
uh, in person, one time that's lit.
There was one in in idaho thatpopped up when I was like a
teenager, and so you said as ateenager me and my friends drove
out to the farm where it was at.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
And saw the crop circle and we saw it in the
field.
Wow, walked around in it andeverything.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Wow, yeah it just happened.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
There's no explanation for those things
either.
No, so what do you believe itright there?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
That was in the middle of nowhere, like out in
the country, on just some Iwouldn't have went.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I'd be scared as shit .
I think that there's differentlayers of reality.
I think the way that I've seenshit.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Other dimensional entities will communicate.
I believe in it.
I've seen shit, so what haveyou seen?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I've seen ghosts?
Have you ever told your?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
story on camera hell.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
No, you don't want nobody to put you on no
medication, but I'm gonna tellyou one place is pasacola,
mississippi.
Yeah, I was there.
Yeah, I was soliciting.
I ended up going to jail thenext day, but yeah, for
soliciting without permit theykept me for a whole day too.
That shit sucked, wow.
But yeah, and then I startedlooking it up and I saw they
have extracurricular activityout there, aliens out there, but

(33:03):
I be seeing like flying shit.
And then my homie, he be, youknow he does X pills, right.
So sometimes you just don'tlisten to him, right?
But yeah, this was in houstonand um, he, he showed me some
shit in the sky.
Fuck me up.
Yeah, like, it's like like I'veseen ufos and shit.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, so did he take you to like a spot to?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
see yes, or did he?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
he said he did the whole remote viewing, like the
contact thing where you domeditation.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh-uh, he was just like he just took me to
somewhere and showed me.
He was like it comes at thiscertain time.
He just knew, yeah, I thoughtit was crazy at first.
I don't even know why I went.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But he went and showed you huh yeah and it was
legit.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Was it close?
I don't know.
It's like out in the outskirtsgoing towards Galveston from
Houston to Galveston yeah,fascinating.
So yeah, I've seen shit man.
But in the house I see likeghost shit, paranormal
activities, you know, and I'vealways grew up to that.
Like I said, I grew up in theprojects in Halvel, missouri,
shiny Trail, natoka, there wastribal names.

(34:09):
They're mounds.
They put the projects on top ofIndian burial grounds, right,
and I always, we always, my dadnever believed in ghosts until
then.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
So yeah, we always so you went to bed every night on
a burial ground, basically someancient ritual grounds.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
After a while you don't get scared no more because
you're used to it.
It becomes normal yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, yeah Well, that's this whole state.
Like, yeah Well, that's thiswhole state.
Part of the reason why I thinkthey put Area 51 here and why
the government has done so muchresearch, even right here.
You know, they've got the AirForce here too.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, nellis, and everything I've never seen
anything crazy out here.
I mean, I get a little nervousout at Lake Mead by myself at
nighttime and dead bodies pop upthere.
Well, that too dead bodies popup there, but for the mom, but
um, I only seen it on the umthat that news clip when the guy
summons the ufos and they cameand there was the newscast only
filmed him because they weretrying to make fun of him yeah

(35:02):
and actually something came, soyeah yeah, his name was like
moses right he was israeli orsomething he would summon them.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, and it works so I do that now.
So we did that in hestelin innorway and we do the meditation
contact protocol yeah, and theyshow up.
We even did, I bet, evenspecifically on camera.
So this is what happened inhestelin.
So I'm there with a retiredf-16 pilot, super skeptical guy,

(35:30):
constantly being like that'snot a ufo, that's starlink,
that's this.
He's very, uh, very straightshooter there with a whole group
of people.
We even had the french mediathere, so there was television.
They're filming me.
So they're filming me andinterviewing me for the news,
and we did it on camera.

(35:50):
We're're meditating and talkingand I was looking at the Big
Dipper and the North Starbecause I know all the ancient
rituals and methods and things,so I did the contact thing and
right there above the Big Dipper, between the Big Dipper and the
North Star, this light flashedand we saw multiple different
things and some of them eventhey look like like a shooting

(36:12):
star, like when you first see it.
But then you watch the nightvision footage back and these
things will come into theatmosphere and they'll turn 90
degrees and stop and blink andthen take off and fly around
like they're living things up inthe sky.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's amazing.
I've heard stories and I knowthere's.
There's an ancient city rightnow that they're uncovering in
Antarctica.
They got every nation there,every country there, only people
.
That's not a country, is theRockefeller Foundation, but
everybody is there.
So I know there's cities, but Iremember, just studying history

(36:48):
, I've always been a nerd andyou know we've had batteries for
thousands of years.
People don't know that, butthere's always been a nerd and
you know we've had batteries for1000s of years.
You know, know that.
But there's always been peoplecoming.
There's the.
They've always showed as UFOs,right, you know all the ancient
tribes on the hieroglyphics, onancient Kemet.
They don't tell you, they don'tteach you about this on a
public education, of course no,but, and that's why I believe it

(37:10):
, and that's where we get mostof our technology.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
It's from higher life beings.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I think that's where, when you look at the people
that invented a lot of thetechnology that we have, when
you look into their methods andtheir journals even like Tesla,
thomas Edison and all those guyslike tesla, thomas edison and
all those guys they were alldoing these types of meditations
and they claimed that theirideas came from these other
dimensions or from some higherrealms you know about edgar

(37:41):
casey too, oh yeah yeah, that'swhat's up.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm a nerd man, I'm a nerd, I do edgar casey shit, so
you know, I mean, that's allembedded, I come, I come back.
They said don't call themdowngrades, call them upgrades
and you mentioned rockefeller's.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
They're heavily into the uf.
I mean, yeah, you know familiesthey've been, so they're
shapeshifters, yeah I meankardashians too.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right, they could be, um, they mastered that.
But um, there is.
I do believe this because youknow, nevada's got the mole
people, you know the undergroundpeople, yeah, so look, and they
have a king, so they'resovereign, the police can't fuck
with them.
They have a king down there.
Yeah, they have a king, king mo, but no, so it's like there's
other people that areunderground or maybe in the

(38:23):
mountains or whatever, becausethey said that I think at the
skinwalker ranch or somebody canrun fast, right, I mean there's
a lot of different shit.
They seen down there.
They said support, said Isupport them, it's all good,
it's going to shut off, we'regoing to keep doing it.
I cut it out, but yeah, so Ibelieve that there is people.
Maybe I believe in Bigfoot.

(38:44):
I'm from Missouri.
You heard of Missouri Monster.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, that's 30 miles from where I was raised in
Hannibal, missouri, and peopledon't know that Mark Twain and
Nikolai Tesla were friends.
They were yes, people don'tknow that I want you to know
that On the government it tookmost of Tesla's technology,
that's where Bluetooth came from.
Yeah, shit.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
People don't know that they hijacked it.
There was like a whole fightand people went in and stole his
patents and there's wholestories behind that, and then
the different families thatended up with his knowledge and
technologies ended up being alot of our major weapons
developers and contractors.
For the government, that'scrazy.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
He wouldn't sell out.
That's why you know ThomasEdison, because a nigga like
Tesla wouldn't sell out and allThomas Edison stuff.
I don't know if you know this.
All Edison his main go-to guyswas black yeah people don't know
that I didn't know.
Yeah, go look this up.
Same thing with the first firstperson who made a car was, uh,

(39:41):
a black people, yeah, and um,they gave it to henry ford but
he mastered the manufacturingplant and he actually got the
idea from george washington,right, and George Washington
Carver was mixed.
People don't know that.
And he was in Iowa.
And the reason why they allowedhim to live because he was a
genius, right, because theycastrated him if they allowed

(40:01):
him to live.
People don't know these things.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
They steal all the history.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
And they steal.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
They take credit for all of it.
That's why they don't want toteach about the ancient carvings
and petroglyphs and thingswould you say it's easier for
black people to contact aliens,then I think it's more natural
for indigenous people thatbelong on the land see, he
corrected.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
He was not he.
He used the nationality.
He used the correct terms.
I do, I do as well.
Yeah, that's why I believe.
But they're scared of thatstuff.
Now, me personally, me too,yeah, but I would you, I'd go
contact some shit with you.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, and I think we're at a point now to where
it's all about who you are andyour soul and what your
integrity is.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I was told they're about to start releasing to the
public the truth about theircontacts with aliens.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, I think there's two hands in it.
Yeah, yeah, I think there's twohands in it.
I think there's people in thein the government that know that
, that want it to come out, andthey they feel like it's time
and we're way overdue, thatpeople need to know this.
It's going to transformhumanity.
But there's also straight upevil wizards in the government.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I mean they're like, I mean that's that are nefarious
and do not want it to come out.
I do believe that I don't sayreptilians or shapeshifters are
in the government.
I believe that they do haveactual people, that they, you
know, maybe facialreconstruction, things of that
nature that look very similar topeople that are controlled.
That's in the government.
You know, I even heard JimCarrey was Joe Biden.

(41:27):
That was funny.
I don't know.
I think Jim Carrey would do noshit like that.
You know what I mean.
I don't know, I think JimCarrey would do no shit like
that.
You know what I mean.
Who knows he started on thatliving color shit, right, but no
, so I do believe we haveextraterrestrial life.
I do believe they're here tohelp us.
There's trusted sources.
I'm not going to tell peoplebecause they're really in the

(41:49):
public, but I was always toldabout the, the galactic council.
They, um, they contact, theyhave somebody directly with the
government that they havecontact with and, um, if things
don't get better for us becausethey don't like the black and
white thing, because it's a hugedivide, they, they can't
believe it's this shit's stillgoing on, that something's going
to be done and they're going tointervene.

(42:10):
So yeah I mean, that's what Iwas told, these and I learned
about the languages and thingsof that nature and I believe it
and and and.
I've been in native americanspirituality.
I've learned with lots ofdifferent tribes.
I definitely believe in contactwith other life forms.
They create portals and shitlike they can do that themselves
.
A lot of people don't know that.

(42:30):
I've been with tribes that cancreate portals and go grab books
that you'll never seen.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, I think it's important that and cool just in
self-discovery to figure outwhere you live, what was the
ancient myths and the weirdcryptids and interesting things
right where you're at, and thenalso look into your own ancestry
and your own heritage and seewhere those merge.
Look into your own ancestry andyour own heritage and see where

(42:56):
those merge and if you feellost, like spiritually or with
the whole phenomena or trying toget answers to your life, you
start to tap into that and youopen those doorways that might
be closed to you, like becauseit doesn't really matter, like
what background you come from orwhere, where you're at, or like
if you're in some terriblesituation or whatever.
Like you probably live in anarea where there was spiritual

(43:19):
stuff that was done forthousands of years, like right
near right, I believe.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I believe the moors told me the way the united
states is established, uh, whereit's at due to the stars, that
this is considered a north gate.
So this is considered apromised land in the bible right
land of hot and cold.
It gets hot and cold here.
Other lands don't do that right, you know.
So I was always told theminissippi river is the nile
river.
I was always taught that umancient chemist was in illinois.

(43:45):
Ain't egypt's in illinois,chicago's mecca?
Right, I was taught thesethings right.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
So and and look at how, how now we have this modern
interpretation.
Basically, the Roman Empire isstill alive.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, it's still alive, it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's the same thing.
It's different clothing,absolutely.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
They change costumes, but they use the same magic,
right the same way.
With the magic, we're stayingwith the birth certificate.
That's a slave.
Title A lot of people don'tknow.
You can use a baptismalcertificate, a baby land deed, a
patent of nativity.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You put all that under a family trust.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, your family trust should establish these
things.
When you go to church, theygive you a baptismal certificate
.
Yeah, all that, All right.
Your church actually theMormons probably securitized it.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
They figure all of that out.
Yeah, Everybody, the regularmembership all treats it just as
a belief system.
But the owners of thecorporation the prophet is also
the president of the church, thecorporations of the church,
Right, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
That's great.
Yeah, I just know that I thinkthey have trustees and boards
there in the Mormons.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, jehovah Witness, councils, councils, yeah, all right yeah
.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
And just like, look at Russia Councils and, and just
like a prime minister, so theyhave a quorum of the 12, just
like the 12 apostles.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Different quorums and councils.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Wow.
And back to that endowment.
You said they do endowments.
I tell people to create thefamily trust and create a family
library so you can hand downendowments to the family library
.
The offspring should never bethe beneficiary.
They should acquire positionswithin the nonprofit or the
private members association, aprivate ministry association,

(45:20):
whatever you decide to establish.
But you know, you've heard theBarack Obama Library, the Ronald
Reagan Library, things likethat.
You can create a family libraryand that's how you hand it down
.
It's tax-free, your family'swealth.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
And you can fill the library with historical
artifacts and artwork, even ifyou're the one that did the
paintings.
You can have an art appraiserappraise the artwork I know
people that do that and then youcan ensure that artwork and
then go use it as collateral toget equity or loans for your
real estate I know people thatactually do that.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I've helped somebody actually that he does his own
paintings done over 50 paintings, got appraisal, got the
insurance and use that to getloans right absolutely.
Yeah, I like that process I.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
People just get in their individual lives, get
overwhelmed with the day-to-day.
You wake up in the morning andjust making coffee, rotating the
laundry and the general things.
Their mental uh energy is soconsumed with that rat race that
they never see above thoseclouds or see through the veil

(46:23):
to realize that there's a wayout that you can like.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
There's always a way I mean I believe God's good all
the time.
You know, discover your purpose.
Your life is differently.
Like I said, my life slows up.
Now it's time to learn life,lesson I believe in.
In school, you learn a bunch oflessons.
Then you receive a test In life.
You get the test and youreceive the lessons.
Right, that's how God works inyour life.
Hindsight, yeah, hindsight.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
You got to look back and go.
Oh, hey, man.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I absolutely think you're amazing, though.
I appreciate you coming downand do you have any last words
and tell us how we can followyou uh, just, I'm carl crusher
online.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
That's my actor name and persona and what I have the
trademark and everything for.
So yeah, carl crusher, anywhereonline you'll be able to find
me.
But yeah, I'm excited.
I want to see where our worldsmatch because you've got all the
literature, the classes.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I know you bit me out the gate with some shit.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I'm like okay, I like that I can talk to you you know
well, we gotta catch up, thenwe gotta do ufo stuff when you
come hang out with me oh, nodoubt and then I gotta get my
scaffolding work.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I would love to learn that life.
I would love to learn more.
I would love to see you summonsome shit where you think all
these stuff came from man.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Where are you getting the ideas from that you got?
Yeah, I already know you cameout from a rock bottom and
something turned and chose youright.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I believe that Angels are unidentified flying objects
the fuck, it's all the same.
Angels and demons, it's all thesame.
Yeah, it's all the same.
So I did want to say a lie is alie.
An alien is a lie that you'rein Right or a lean, that's how
they give it to you, right?
But you're an alien on a legalstatus.
You have special rights when itcomes to the United States

(48:01):
corporation.
You are alien to the UnitedStates system.
When you learn who you trulyare, when you start learning
about that straw man name, youstart learning about the
intellectual property.
You are an alien, you are aforeigner, and I showed you my
ID.
I'm a foreigner and that's howI identify in the system.
Look how much foreign aid.
They don't need no credit scoreto get foreign aid.
All they have to do is beforeign.

(48:22):
They have a budget for that.
It's like you have a budget forUFOs.
Let's study UFOs.
So I think you should beforeign when you're in the
United States.
If I'm outside the UnitedStates, I am a United States
citizen Because they'll comesave you if you're in a

(48:42):
different country.
Right, crazy how it works.
But it's trading with the enemyact when you're at home.
So that's how I move with thealien word, you know.
But I just thought you wasinterested, I was like it, I
thought it was dope, you wasfollowing me, you know you hit
me up.
You told me hit somebody elseup, so here he still hasn't
reached back.
Yeah, he still hasn't reachedback.
He's going through stuff yeah,man, I love what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Man, keep being great , that's what I say yeah, you
just had a house built in utah Ijust, I just moved and
downsized to get out of mymortgage and go completely
debt-free now or debt-free.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Congratulations, you didn't.
You didn't do no discharge ornothing like that.
Congratulations, man, you didit.
You did it the right way noheadache, stress-free right over
, but much peace and love y'all.
You know how to find me donkalam d-o-n.
Underscore k-i-l-a-m.
On the instagram.
Much peace and love.
Y'all already know how to findme Don Kalam D-O-N.
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