Are you ready to challenge your perception of reality and empowerment? Join us as Eternal Zion and Billie, also known as Bewlistic, uncover secrets that transcend conventional education. Eternal Zion, a social media sensation in financial literacy, offers a glimpse into a world where asset protection meets personal sovereignty, while Billie takes us on a journey through the spiritual dimensions of quantum physics and manifestation. Listen as we weave these themes together with anecdotes from the celebrity realm, offering a unique fusion of financial and spiritual wisdom.
We'll also explore the enigmatic world of legal and spiritual sovereignty, inspired by the late David Wynn Miller's revolutionary ideas on quantum language. With insights from Elisha Royal, we discover the untapped potential of 508C1A faith-based organizations and offshore trusts. Dive into the complexities of maintaining personal jurisdiction and protecting your assets, and hear about the unyielding dedication required in customer service roles. This episode reveals how unconventional frameworks can transform the way we navigate legal systems and beyond.
Finally, embark on a journey of spiritual awakening and empowerment. We question societal norms and religious constraints, drawing connections between ancient scriptures, modern science, and the power of collective consciousness. Explore how transitioning from Pentecostal Christianity to comedicism, influenced by figures like Young Pharaoh, can redefine one's sense of freedom. Learn how intentionality and belief can reshape your reality, empowering you to harness the power of manifestation in your day-to-day life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peace and love.
It's your boy, don Kalam, alsoknown as Malik Kalam.
As always, prosperity is yourdivine birthright.
This is Dream Keepers Podcastand I'm in the building Dream
Keepers Radio Podcast.
I'm in the building withEternal Zion and Billie.
Let's start with Eternal Zion.
Where are you from?
Let us know a little bit aboutyou and let us know who she is
to introduce her and bring herin too.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, so my name is Eternal Zion.
I go by the nickname Shaysometimes, but I'm mainly known
for my financial literacy andwhat I teach on multiple
platforms like Instagram, tiktok, things like that.
So that's basically what I'mknown for, but we're going to
(00:42):
get more into it.
I do want to introduce mylovely lady here.
Go ahead, introduce yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, my name is Bewley, also known as Bewlistic,
and I am from Broward, florida,fort Lauderdale, and I also
talk about, you know, justquantum physics and how to
manifest using such and, yeah,lots of things.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Manifesting using quantum physics.
Absolutely yeah, no doubt.
I've actually the game that I'min and me and Eternal Zion
we're basically in the same game.
I don't even like how she saidfinancial literacy, because it's
bigger than rap it isdefinitely bigger.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
you do is the private life and it's bigger than just
financial literacy.
You can't even learn what youdo in financial literacy books.
It financial literacy.
You can't even learn these.
What you do in financialliteracy books, you're.
It's just state planning, youknow?
I mean, there's really no namethat they can give it, but it
ties in with everything.
So I want you to know.
I started with studying quantumphysics and things like that on
a spiritual level, before I evenstarted getting into these
things.
Um, and it was doing partbecause, like I don't know, it's
(01:40):
the only thing that made senseto me yeah, like I like then,
when I started this game thatwe're in because some people
call it's the only thing thatmade sense to me.
Yeah, like then when I startedthis gang that we're in because
some people call it, there's thenames that I don't like, though
.
Secure party credit, becausepeople don't know how to use it,
right, yeah.
They don't know how to say thatright?
They say they're a secure partycreditor because they have a
UCC-1.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, that's not a hold harmless indemnity
agreement.
It's so many other forms thatgo into it and entail the
protection of your trust, and ifyou don't have all of those in
order, then you're not actuallyprotecting yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I like that.
Asset protection that's anotherkey word.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Asset protection, asset protection that's another
key word Asset protection, assetprotection.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You're the asset.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yes, your name, everything.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
The reason why I'm excited to have you here is
because I feel like we have togive you your flowers, like
there ain't nobody shouting youout like they should be.
There's a lot of women thattried and failed this shit.
I don't know if you know, Idon't.
Even people went to the fedsall types of shit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you know they'd be doing some crazy shit yeah,
I mean, I can say some names,but I ain't gonna say no, but no
it's yeah, we're not gonna bemessy.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
we're not gonna be messy, but on the on the flip
side, because I don't I don'tknow if you really knew about me
, like I came into this gamewith the record label as well,
and I see that's what both ofy'all do.
And your fucking music is dopeby the way.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I appreciate that it really is this upcoming shit oh?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
yeah, yeah.
And another thing.
Another thing Y'all tapped inwith celebrities as well,
correct?
Another thing, another thingY'all tapped in with celebrities
as well, correct?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, yes, we are.
So it's so interesting.
The very first celebrity Iremember following me fully was
between Kyrie Irving.
Let's go Kyrie Irving, tyreseGibson, let's go.
And Jordan Sparks.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Damn for real Jordan Sparks.
Jordan Sparks follows me on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Instagram Wow sparks Damn For real Jordan Sparks.
Jordan Sparks follows me onInstagram Wow, and it's so
interesting because it's likethey.
I feel like they watch me.
They definitely watch, but theydon't necessarily engage as
much.
I feel like I'm just more sohere to kind of just educate and
I think they definitely look atmy content, they definitely
look at things that I talk about, but they don't necessarily
(04:05):
engage as much.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But it's okay.
And what about any celebritiesyou're tapped into?
Yeah, a lot I know I heard someof the stories.
We go into.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
We kind of like attract different, you know
types of people.
So one of them was Dochi.
Another one is Rico Nasty.
You know XXXTentacion.
Let's go.
One is Rico Nasty, you knowXXXTentacion.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
People, you know people like that we have a lot.
Of you know it was big namesthough, yeah, you feel me,
there's a lot Big names.
The reason why I like this?
Because for me it was able whenI don't remember the first
celebrity that followed me, butI know when Kevin Gates hit me
up.
But you gotta understand I goin their DMs.
As soon as they follow me I hitlike I go in their DMs.
You mentioned John Sally too.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I had talked to John Sally as well.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Kevin Garnett, waka Flocka Flame.
But I slide in their DM whenthey follow me.
I say thank you for yoursupport ASAP.
I say here's my number.
Anything you need, just reachout to me.
That's wonderful.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's wonderful I think that I don't.
The reason I don't do that isbecause I don't want them to
feel like I'm, you know, tryingto insert myself somewhere, um,
and I kind of would like to justkeep it open.
It's like if they're interestedin anything, then of course I'm
more than willing to um, givethem my services.
(05:22):
But it's also I'm not chasinganything, right?
So you still going to?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
pay.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So for me, I'm a little bit different.
I have gave leeway and helpedsome celebrities for free, but I
make sure that it's, you know,fair exchange ain't robbery.
Can you shout me out?
Yeah, can you give me areferral?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, like because literally how I got
known was based off referralshelping people for free yeah.
Because, I was helping doingthis stuff in the hood and it's
not stuff I like to do right now, but I know Zion can co-sign
for this stuff, because some andsome people might say this shit
ain't true.
But I started helping peoplewith weed cases and drug cases,
coke cases.
I go straight to them.
(06:08):
Like you know, your name's abusiness.
What happens if Walgreens sellsa bad drug?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Who's going to?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
jail.
They got 30 days of cease anddesist.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, they can call it fake, but there's
testimonies out there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They got their paperwork together Exactly, and
that's interesting you bringthat up because I was recently
um, this was probably last yearI was actually arrested in Texas
, um and I.
I actually was in jail forthree days.
I didn't know necessarily theremedy of how to um get out of
(06:37):
jail, but when I got out, when Igot out, I created my affidavit
of truth, I created mystatements, um, I attached my
legal demand notice, um, and Ibasically sued them.
I'm suing them 425 millionright now.
But also, I got those casescompletely dismissed.
They tried to tell me that Ineeded to take a four hour
course, um, and I told them Ihumbly declined that.
(07:00):
Um, I'm suing you guys already.
You're in the wrong.
You have my paperwork.
The prosecution has mypaperwork.
They literally went over it andit's so interesting because I
still ended up having a publicattorney.
I still ended up having apublic attorney.
I told him I don't need you torepresent me, I'll just need you
to give my paperwork to theprosecution.
I'm not finna, keep flying backand forth from california to
(07:24):
texas.
I'm not about to continue to dothis.
So, uh, he basically took mypaperwork.
He said did what you asked.
I gave your paperwork to theprosecution and instantly
prosecution.
Hit him back like we'll drop thecases, but only if she take
this, this class.
But notice, if I had agreed totake in that class, that would
have been me agreeing that I waswrong admission of guilt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That would have been my admission of guilt, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So I told them no and literally, three days later,
the same Lord hit me up.
He said he said yeah, theydropped the cases, they
dismissed the cases.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm like of course they did.
Congratulations.
We call that standing on yoursquare.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Standing on your square.
Yes, With the more verse.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Demographics is the graph of demons.
So can you prove that Texasexists, or is it just invisible
lines?
Demographics is the graph ofdemons.
That's how I play the game withit you know cause you God body,
they the devil, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
So the first case I ever beat Iwas in federal custody.
I want you to know the statecourts are way harder than
federal courts.
A lot of people don't know thatstate courts are harder than
(08:24):
federal courts.
You need to take that shit tothe federal level.
But mine was for counterfeitingmoney.
I got popped for counterfeitingmoney and that's when I started
learning the game, because I'mreading the codes and the
statutes and I'm like this iscopyright infringement, this
ain't counterfeiting money.
Because only.
Congress provide punishment foruttering and counterfeiting
securities in the United States.
(08:44):
That's not a security.
In the United States theFederal Reserve knows it's not
real money, nor is it a security, it's just the in God.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
we trust it's a note from the in God we trust.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But with the federal courts.
They wouldn't allow me torepresent myself.
I always said sui juris.
I object when they say pro se,what's the pro sec cuter
prosecutor?
Pro sec cuter?
So you part of theirjurisdiction?
Sui juris means the right tocontract.
Yeah, you're right, mind.
So they, those og was like justmake them your, uh, co-counsel,
(09:17):
appoint them as co-counsel,because the they, the courts,
wouldn't talk to me directly.
They couldn't recognize me.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I didn't recognize them right, so we had to have
that mediated.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So that's what made sense when you said that Like he
was still representing you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was still representing me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you didyour shit right, though.
I did it right, and that's whatI'm saying.
It's completely okay for you toknow the life and you know how
not to even deal with the system, right?
There's so many different waysof participation, but because I
(09:50):
signed that, that, I signedsomething in jail for me to get
out that was messed up.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Right, I put my signature down.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So as soon as I put my signature down, I'm instantly
in a jurisdiction.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
There's nothing I can do.
Signature, sign in nature.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I signed.
I signed in order for me to getout of jail.
So it was because I did that Ihad to use their system against.
I used their own penal codesagainst them.
I charged officers with assault.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's what you're supposed to do.
I told you officers wereaggravated assault, kidnapping,
abuse of power.
Facts, I charge them.
But, and you just keepdemanding the oath of offices
and the delegation of authorityorders, like I'm not gonna make
it all about court today, but Iask them first of all can you
show me a piece of paper thatstates that your power is
(10:34):
greater than my higher powers?
Right, they can't do it youknow their power derives from
God.
You know the Bible's a fact inthe courtroom.
A lot of people don't know that,and that's why you make things
in red too.
That's the living word you knowin the Bible, when Jesus all
the words are red.
Also in the courtroom.
Have you heard of he's passedaway now but David Wynn Miller,
(10:55):
you ever heard of him?
I haven't.
So he did something calledquantum language, so he's
talking about quantum.
Yeah, and this shit works inthe courtroom as well, because
it's your own language.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's the way we speak.
It's like adverb verb.
It does something to the brain,okay, and he was able to.
It's mathematics and it justleaves you hanging.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Could you give me like an example?
I can?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not on a deep level, but you would understand.
Okay, okay, mortgages getdischarged with this shit.
Yeah, david Wynn Miller, that'shis name.
He said he was a federal postaljudge.
He was a formal king because,remember, I told you about the
king of Hawaii.
He was a self-proclaimed kingof Hawaii, though he didn't have
(11:34):
the blood.
In order to be royalty inHawaii, you've got to have the
lineage.
They still keep track of thebloodline.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Were they respecting him though?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, there was, he was getting respect because he's
beaten cases.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know, and he's going to England beating cases
Like he's in a place all overthe world, yeah, so yeah, I'm
surprised you haven't ran intothis yet.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, I haven't, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
David, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
David Wynn, as fuck I didn't really understand it.
So I mean, I understood it, butI didn't, and so so, and then
he, it's like it's a form ofnumerology mixed in with that
shit, because everything adds upyeah, so is it kind of like how
you, how you're very familiarwith breaking down like the
etymology of like words andthings like that.
So it's like you're rearranging.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah and and like sometimes I don't know, I I
like that, you I like likedoing that with my people.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's on a different level.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But you know you can't.
I can't break an etymology of aword in China.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, you know.
So this is all a game.
This is all a game.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And we just mastered the game over here in Western
philosophy so to speak, you know, in the Western hemisphere.
That's how I'm looking at it.
But that's how I'm looking atit.
But Admiralty Law works allover the world.
Maritime Law works all over theworld, just like these 508C1As
All over the world.
We can create an offshore trustwith a 508C1A.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And ministries faith-based all over the world.
So how long you?
Because you just startedtalking about that.
I heard you talking aboutfaith-based organizations
508C1As.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
How long you been familiar with that.
That's literally the firstthing I learned.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's literally the first thing that put me on.
There was a man.
His name is Elisha Royal, andI'll never forget him Shout out
to Elisha.
Shout out to Elisha.
Yeah, he was on the show.
He literally told me about howhe had this case against.
I just remember him.
He had his case.
He had a case and they put himin jail.
He did not sign any papers.
(13:28):
They kept him in there for over260-something days.
He's suing them for over $460million and he never signed
anything.
They let him out.
They let him out of jail, Neverwent to court, Never did
nothing, I mean.
And then he told me, he saidit's because he has his own
(13:48):
jurisdiction, His jurisdictionis his ministry.
So, I asked him well, how doesthat work?
Man has his own license plates.
He told me, he has his own.
He creates his ownidentification cards, his tribal
.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
ID cards.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
He told me he has his own constitution, bylaws.
I mean, this man had everythingand he literally coached me
through as far as how powerful a508C1A is, and when I learned
about that, that was the veryfirst thing that I wanted to
dive into.
And then I started diving intomore of trust law and like what
(14:29):
is a trust Right?
What is an offshore trust?
What does it mean to reallyprotect your assets Right?
And then, of course, we learnmore about like the probate and
how to avoid probate and how to.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You know.
You know what I'm saying andhow to how the government.
You know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's the rabbit hole and it's the rabbit hole, but
that was the very first thingthat I actually learned about as
far as the 508C1A.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's amazing.
I'm not trying to throw you offeither, but do you know about
the 508C1A, because you did agreat job talking about it on
the phone yesterday, everythingI won't lie everything that I've
learned about it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I have learned from Eternal Zion.
I did, you know, speak toElijah a couple of times, you
know, but it's a process and Ithink that when you get into it
I'm very familiar.
But there's so many codes thatI can't just like identify.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Like she can name them off, rip, but I know I'm
familiar with everything.
501c1a is definitely a code,yeah, and it's different than
the 501C3.
So the 501c3 is a nonprofit anda public and it will take away
your freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yes, yes, no, I'm familiar.
I've worked with them.
You get what I'm saying.
I worked for a nonprofit.
I was a banking director forHip Hop, for Change, things like
that, oh, that's lit.
That's why, when you were goingdoor to door, in your past I
was like, oh, canvassing salesstuff, some of the hardest jobs
ever.
So I respect anybody who coulddeal with customer service like
that and you guys, with the workthat you do, you have to deal
(15:49):
with people on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And it's so tedious.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And the work that you guys are doing is so tedious.
Just to go back on to Elijah,the resiliency you have to have
to, you know, even deal withthat, know your rights and know
that these, even the people thatyou're dealing with, don't know
your rights as well and usingthat as a factor against you is
crazy.
I mean it's insane that he getsto like sue them now and get it
now.
But you know that also issomething that causes a lot of
(16:16):
fear in people to not even wantto operate in a private Right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The fact that he had to spend 260 days in jail to
prove his point.
So listen, can I tell yousomething?
Though she ended up signingshit.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
If you're doing your shit correctly, they have to let
you go in 72 hours.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You said three days.
So whatever you was doing, youwas doing it correctly.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
They have to let you go in 72 hours.
If you're doing everythingcorrectly.
Now, if you got your trust setup, you got your tribe set up,
you got your church set up andyou don't give them your
identification, theyautomatically have to treat you
as a foreigner or a national.
But, that being stated, youhave to have an ambassador or a
counselor they can call toverify who you are.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
See, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, it's all good.
I got you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I rock with tribes, though you know what I mean A
lot of tribes.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Absolutely, I rock with tribes, though you know
what I mean A lot of tribes,Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The one thing I will say I learned about the 508C1A
is mainly because I hate taxes.
I feel like taxes are thedumbest thing ever when it comes
to this country and I was likewhen I create my businesses and
(17:24):
when I start to sell products orcreate certain programs and
things like that, I was like Idon't want to give them a dime
of your own.
You know, you know 508 C1Aministry, but you can literally
(17:49):
write it off as a tax deductibledonation.
And then Elisha told me you canuse your five-way C1A and
create a create like a creditagency and loan the money back
to yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
What's the?
What's the Vatican do?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Exactly, and that is being actively practiced today.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And with the loan, it's not considered income.
Yeah, so you don't have to.
It's not considered reportedincome.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So how I move is?
You know.
I got the.
I rap for God, you know, justlike you Record label.
They work for the 508C1A Rightand everything goes to the
church.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I'm in debt with the record label.
That's where I get my loansfrom.
Just like them, just like anyother artist.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
That's how I move.
I'm always in debt.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Exactly them just like any other artist, right,
that's how I move, I'm always indebt.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Exactly, we are always in debt yeah, we're
always in debt, but um, anotherthing I want to ask is do you
think that you understand thatshe's telling the truth?
Because you're spiritual?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
initially.
Well, okay, so let's get intoit, because we've known each
other for quite some time.
I've known zion before she waszion.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So so, um, initially I wasalmost like a guide for her
spiritually.
She would come and ask me abunch of things and then she led
her own way into comedicism andit went down this path with the
Moors and all this stuff.
(19:09):
But as far as, like, I feellike I'm very intuitive, and in
high school there was a personnamed Young Pharaoh that I know
he's still.
He's still around today.
He's still around doing thisthing today or whatever.
But, um, I had, like a bunch offriends that put me onto him
and it brought me into thiswhole spiral of you know, just
(19:32):
just a spiritual spiral thatkind of pulled me out of where I
was at, which is PentecostalChristianity just started making
me question everything.
Once I started questioningeverything, that's when, you
know, my spirituality reallybecame to like began to open up.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Y'all are a couple correct.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So before you was you met her, you was already
speaking in tongues.
Yes, I was already.
I was speaking in tongues sinceI was eight.
You know what I'm saying.
I was speaking in tonguesforever.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But yeah, I definitely felt like she was
telling the truth, but alsobecause but even before I met
her, I have rent because of thepeople that I know.
You know, I told you about mycommunity, my family.
They're wealthy, higher uppeople and they're very
spiritual.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Can we, can we, can I ?
Can we talk about who yourfather is?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
no, oh my gosh, where you from?
Yes, okay, so my family is.
We're jamaican, um, and myfather is an ambassador in
jamaica and you know he's alwaysan ambassador for jamaica?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
yes, am zion you doing it big over here?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
yes, yes and then no, but she didn't know that we're
honestly.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We were discovering that because my father he's not
he's not all too present.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I've known him for you know, forever, but you know,
yes, and then, um, I wasn'teven referring to him, I was
actually referring to x, his, um, his family.
They're very tapped in, they'revery, you know, spiritual and
our family is, you know they.
Once you, I feel like one, Ifeel like you know wealth is
faded.
That I feel like I feel likeyou know wealth is faded.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's how I feel Wow .
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's deep, yeah, and I feel like, if you, if that
, if it's meant for you, if it'sdesigned for you, then it will
be no matter what.
You just have to follow yourpath, type of thing.
And that side of my family has,and because I see the spiritual
differences between both sidesof my family, ones that, like,
resonate in poverty and onesthat resonate in wealth I was
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able to you know tell thatthings are true.
So when she discovered this,you know and we chose.
Yeah, when she discovered thisum information, it was like
isn't elijah part of like themore, more like community?
Once I discovered thatinformation, I I knew for a fact
that it was true, so I justtold her I, I was like listen
all these people that's tryingto push you off, all these
people that are trying to youknow they're going to get their
(21:45):
lick back soon.
I just kept encouraging her.
I'm like keep learning.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's why I think it's also crucial to understand
or understand, sorry.
I think it's crucial tounderstand that this is why it's
called the matrix.
There is a multitude of peoplewho willingly, willfully and
unknowingly work for the matrix.
That is why they do not believeus.
(22:10):
That is why they continue to goalong with their lives, they
continue to go along with theirnine-to-fives, allowing these
people to completely use them.
Um, just through paperwork,yeah, just through contracts
alone.
They don't question.
Why was there ever anybody onthis earth who decided to stand
(22:30):
on a mountain of gold and saythis is mine?
Why are there people that existon this planet that will go
into an area, put a flag down?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
and say this is mine.
You don't question this.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You just say oh, this is what war is for.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
This is why we have war in the military.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This is why we kill each other.
And it's so weird because y'alldon't understand that the
creator of this universe neversaid y'all are.
Y'all don't understand that the, the creator of of this
universe, never said y'all ownanything.
Y'all have signed contractsthat that have willing and
willingly give up your rights,exactly so that you can be owned
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this world and people can ownyou and say what they, what they
own.
That's the only reason why youbelieve that stuff.
But if you didn't sign anycontracts, you have the creator
and you have your God givenrights to be here.
You want to?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
know it's interesting that you say that, because it's
it.
This kind of goes into how Ifeel like people think about
themselves as much as we go intothe system and how much people
put fear into people and thereasons why people are so
complacent with this type ofsystem.
I feel like a lot of people,even even this country right,
it's built on, like you said,the government and the church,
like religion, religion you knowwhat I'm saying Separation of
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church and state, all this othertype of stuff.
You know what I'm talking about.
But people in America, a lot ofpeople are religious, but the
limitations that they put onthemselves make me feel like
they really don't understandlike their access to God and
their access to freedom, andlike they put limitations on God
if that makes sense, they puttheir own limitations.
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So the fact that like somebodycould come and tell you that you
are not free is insane to me.
If you believe that God isomniscient and omnipotent.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's like government is the control of man's mind.
The control of my freedom is astate of mind.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I'm going to go back to what she said about, you
know, these contracts.
When we talk about, con means aswindle, and then track means
treaty.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So it's a fake treaty out the gate, right.
So you know, even in the HolyBible it says that you don't
make a covenant outside of God.
And that's what you do when yousign the birth certificate.
The birth certificate shows youwho your maker is.
I just want to say, though,y'all are the wisest women that
I've ever sat down and talked to.
Thank you, I'm glad y'all fuckwith me.
It gets wiser.
Well, I mean, I feel like it'shard, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So what's really hard for women is when you are in,
when you are placed in this,this situation, um.
Are you placed in householdsthat teach you that you are to
be a mother?
You are to be someone, um, whoonly exists in your femininity,
right, right.
You are to be someone whocaters to men, right.
And when you're taught this,this ideology, um, it's really
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harder for women to break intobecoming more independent.
That's why, in 1974, when wehad the opportunity, um, what is
it the opportunity act?
What it the first one?
About the suffrage?
Yeah, so in 1974, there wasequal opportunity, oh, there you
go yeah.
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So it allowed not only allowedwomen to have bank accounts, but
allowed them to build their owncredit.
This is why divorce rates wenthigh, because what was happening
?
Was that women were forced tobe in relationships with men in
order for them to have afinancial security.
So, whenever we have women inthese abusive situations with
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these men, right, because, atthe end of the day, a man is
very transactional.
Men are transactional.
If you cannot provide somethingfor them, if it's not
beneficial for them, there's noreason for them to have you
there.
So if you are, if you are awoman and you're providing
something for the man, then ofcourse, right.
But if you're, if you're not,um, it can lead to a very
(26:28):
abusive type of uh, dynamiccontrol.
So what was happening was womenfinally had the opportunity to
be free from men and not have torely on them financially, and
that's why we have Rihanna today, who's a freaking billionaire.
We have women today who owntheir own businesses, who are
creating, like restaurants thatare health conscious, like.
(26:51):
We have women today who aremaking changes and strides
within our business industrybecause they were allowed to,
because now we're allowed toeducate ourselves, we're allowed
to read these books and getinto into these.
You know things, but peoplelike us, we be in the house
that's why you don't see us.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's why you don't talk to us.
Before I became Don Colombo I'mnot saying that's right or
that's wrong I only fuck withgirls who had good credit cause,
uh, I needed somewhere to stay.
You know.
Oh, my God, I wasn't going tostay in, no bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just too honest.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let me show y'all how to get your credit score
together, girl, right right.
That's what I was using thisshit for, though, but that shit
don't get you believe.
It takes a man to raise a man,but a woman to raise a nation.
Information starts at the timeof conception, so I love a woman
that gets money.
I love a wise woman as well,you know, because money is just
not good enough, because I triedthat too.
(27:45):
You know hoes get money.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, that's very true.
That's a mindset, that's verytrue, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So it's just like what else can to the table.
But I believe this is, you knowyou either pimping or tricking.
You either alpha or beta, andthat's why I asked about y'all.
Both of y'all have very alphaenergy.
So I was like how's that workout for y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Because I know it's all bad.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Listen.
If y'all clashing, I know it'sall bad Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I was saying that we switch.
We switch when needed and werecognize where each other's
strengths and weaknesses are.
We try to help each other outon those routes.
That's why we try to alwaysstay open.
You know what I'm saying.
We never act like we knoweverything, if that makes sense
and we realize we've beentogether for six years now.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's amazing.
Congratulations, it's a longtime.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
So, with that being said, we're growing up together.
Right, we got together when wewere children, if that makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That's lit.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
If anything, we're constantly changing.
So she's going to come on someinformation that I don't know.
I'm going to come on someinformation that she doesn't
know, and a lot of thisinformation is life-changing and
it ends up being changing ourlives a lot.
So we got to be ready to adaptand encourage and, like all the
time, be aware.
Yeah, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Would you say you would check more men clients or
female clients?
Um, interesting enough, it's 5050 wow, that's lit, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know, with me it's usually older women.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's older women, yeah older women, young like
2018 to 21 I get young women aswell.
So it's very interesting, um,my recent clients have been
women, um, and they are blackwomen and very much well uh,
interested in just protectingtheir.
They're more so worried abouttheir children than anything.
(29:39):
And I just I love that.
I love that I'm able toactually help them and, you know
, give them the information thatthey need in order to, you know
, protect their children andprotect themselves.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
You're a living testimony, though, because
there's not too many women thatare representing you.
Know what you guys talk about.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So, like, a lot of women don'teven feel like they have the
space, uh, to enter these typeof things.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
If that makes sense.
I mean to be honest, they, theydon't yeah, yeah, no, I mean
this and even the men shouldn'tbe entering this space Like
you're living what you'retalking about.
You understand what I'm saying?
These people don't live.
They come just like somebodycaught me.
It was like hey, I know you'vebeen talking about Zion, that
you're kicking their water, butdo you want me to send you this
Because they're selling her shit, or they were like they're
(30:43):
gonna buy the 90 dollar book,but they're gonna spend 1500 for
me to do the paperwork right.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Thank you, listen, let's go you can't just take a
piece all of it is connected toone another.
They're going to end up goingright back to you anyway.
I mean, we are the dope, yeahyou know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We are the dope.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like, when you talk about it like this is why I love
because, no, you know, I was, Iwas there with you yesterday,
even though you was working allday.
I, I was still there andpresent and you didn't shut the
door or nothing.
You know what I'm saying, like,even though I didn't hear you
what you were saying, becausewe're talking, we're having our
own thing Business, businessmeetings.
Oh yeah, shut the door, butlisten, I know that you're not
(31:23):
on the computer, you're notlooking through no books All
this shit coming from right here.
Yeah, yeah absolutely, you knowwhat I'm saying what you're
spitting is in you.
And then I loved another thing.
I loved about you yesterdaybecause I don't remember a lot
of shit, and I think I like thatbecause I don't lie.
When you start trying toremember shit, you start lying
and truth never changes.
Anything else is falsehood,right, but when I showed you
(31:45):
certain paperwork and thingslike that, and you just know
exactly where it's supposed togo, oh, yeah, or what it can do,
yeah, to where it's supposed togo.
Oh yeah, or what it can do.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I said damn, that kind of.
Took me a little time to figurethat one out.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You did say that, but no learning how to research.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
it Just like off of this this 508C1H trust it
literally I had to eat, sleepand shit it for nine months to
conquer this motherfucker, likeI didn't study nothing else.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, no it gets, it gets very deep.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I think that because, like I said, I had, I
had people, I had people whowere more than willing to mentor
no, I know, I know, but I'msaying, like you told me, you
studied this by yourself well, Ihad to at the end of the day
because well, so the I want youto know.
When I I got, I'm glad Istudied it, but then it took me
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to something calledunincorporated associations so
you don't even have to use the508C1A.
The 508 c1a.
The 508 c1a is anunincorporated association in
itself, but you got it becauseyou know under article 1,
section 10, the government can'tinterfere with a private
contract yeah so are you.
All you need is your bylaws allyou need is your constitution
yeah a mission statement or youknow.
Then you have the, yourtrustees, or y'all have a trust
(33:07):
meeting.
You can use meeting minutes toopen up a bank account.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tknow that yeah, yeah, there's,
and that's the.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's also not to put myself on um, but that's in
my ministry starter kit.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So that's lit every, so you got a ministry starter
kit right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, my ministry starter kit has everything in
there, from what you need like,from the claim of life to your
declaration, everything, andthen you basically appoint your
managing director and then youwant to have at least two
witnesses to basically signthose documents.
You get them notarized andafter that, boom, boom, take
that paperwork down.
You can go and open up a bankaccount if you wanted to bank
(33:50):
account, if you wanted to and ifyou wanted to get an EIN, like
you said, you can fax in um your.
You can fax in an EIN or aapplication.
I think it's the S S, what is?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
it SS4.
So the.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
SS4, um, and then you don't have to put your social
security number down at all.
So, and that's what helps Like,and then you get that, that
private EIN number, you get that, um, you take your, you know
all of your paperwork down andyou can open up a ministry bank
account like that.
Wow, so, and and it's very,very powerful, because no one's,
(34:23):
no one can question you.
That's the thing about themajor differences when you were
talking about the 501c3.
And when I learned about thosemajor differences and how they
literally can't question you,they can't try to seize anything
from you, they can't like takeaway your right to any type of
(34:44):
grants or whatever the case maybe.
They can't do it, it'simpossible.
You're a 508C18.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And then that is my benefit because, because you
know, I do operate in the publicwith LLC's, I consider them
pastoral entities.
Now, on a strict private level,you're going to discourage that
, but at the end of the day, Ilove using it.
If you're using it correctly,you're still going to be a
non-taxpayer.
I'm going to say that we don'tpay taxes, but we, a
non-taxpayer, I'm going to saythat.
I don't say we don't pay taxes,but we are non-taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Because we don't.
A tax is a contribution anyways.
Yes, it's voluntary.
Everybody doesn't know that,but with that covenant, the
birth certificate proves whoyour maker is.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So a baptismal certificate, baby land deeds,
affidavits of live birth.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm not sure what you use.
I always say it's the affidavitof live birth.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's what you use, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That is what I recommend for people as far as
when they're trying to set uptheir baby and make it, say they
have it at home or something.
Yeah, so you could have themidwife.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Sign it um, because that's lit yeah listen, I'd be
helping her with her.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Do you feel me?
The clients and stuff.
I'd be knowing what's.
They're licensed.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
They're literally licensed so they can sign for
you on your affidavit of birth.
And what's really crazy isbecause you will look at the
passport documents.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
That's needed and you scroll all the way down.
They got all of that there.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You're going to scroll all the way down on their
website and you're going to seeaffidavit of birth and it's
going to piss you off.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They actually have a form for affidavit of live birth
, for birth certificate.
You don't have to put your shiton, you use theirs, that's
exactly what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's so crazy.
I'm glad you know.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And you can take that down and get a national
passport.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
What's crazy is all these other gurus that you talk
to.
They're not going to tell youthis shit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
They're not.
They're not and it's likeit's's so, and my thing is I, I
really look forward to, tocreating with you and that's
what I mean you have.
We have so much informationthat we need to organize.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm getting behind her so it's like she's the
leader, she's the fucking leader.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm still not gonna be accessible, though we're not
doing all yeah, but I'll be theface all right, but, um, we are
creating courses, and I'mtalking about real video courses
for you guys.
That breaks it, because I knowthat people have learning
disabilities.
Right, some people are visuallearners that's all of us.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Most people are visual learners, right?
That's why everybody knows billnye, the science guy let's go,
let's go learners yeah no, whatI wanted to say, not to cut you
short.
What I want to say is almostall of us have learning
disabilities, or you would knowthe shit that we're speaking
right, right, some form of someform of fashion.
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Real knowledge will be thequantum.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah the spiritual knowledge.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I got this through spirituality, spiritual
downloads, yeah like simple asthat yeah, absolutely,
absolutely, yeah, I agree now,how do you learn so like?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
so let's break down this quantum, what you?
Actually do okay, so basicallyall right so you got a book too,
right?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Okay, so let's run it back.
All right, so initially, um onmultiple platforms.
I am a, I'm a priestess, I'm ashaman.
I am initiated in in multiplereligions.
Some people would be againstthat, but I am.
I'm almost like a spiritualwanderer.
Yes, I'll share.
In fact, if I is one of the mainones and, olarisha, I was for a
(38:40):
long time and pretty much whatit is for me is, I got into it
through spirituality and then Iended up going into, you know,
just self-help books that workon psychology and spirituality
and mixing those two together,and once I went through that, I
(39:03):
ended up finding little tidbitsof like science in these books,
in these self-help books, and Iwas like, wait a minute, no, you
know what I'm saying.
Like back up, why is this?
Why are these like connectingfor me?
Why am I getting aha momentswhen you know the, when science
is placed into it, and I feltlike it was two sides of the
same coin that were like beingbrought together, if that makes
sense.
And so I felt like, well, ifI'm having an aha moment with
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science, then that means thatscience and spirituality are
connected and we need to stopbringing.
We need to stop, I feel like,what's happening with people and
stopping people from being ableto like control this world the
way that they want to, is thatwe're separating things that
should not be separated it'skind of like how they take books
of the Bible out.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
So you can't you know what I'm saying, so you can't
learn like the book of Thomasand the book of Enoch, enoch and
the right, exactly.
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
If Cain killed Abel, then Cain already knew his wife.
Then they began to begot Enoch,where's his wife come from?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Right, exactly Because y'all don't know that
there's two creations in theBible, we're not going to get
into.
Genesis, verse 20.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Okay, no, but it's intentional, right, it's
absolutely intentional.
Though it's absolutelyintentional, I feel like that's
also something that was intended.
That are slipping past peopleis that science and spirituality
are not separate.
The church used a lot ofscience as well when it comes to
Ifa.
When you go to, like your Babelhour, your priest or anything
(40:23):
like that, and you come to themwith issues or things like that
on your path, they're writingyou what they would call
prescriptions, do you?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
They would call it prescriptions, because this is's
like they, it's like thescience of spirituality.
That's what I consider ifa.
So just me going on on thislittle tidbit.
That's kind of how I I divedinto.
It was through these self-helpbooks that mesh like they put
little tidbits of science intoit and so I felt like if that
was the aha moment for me, thenif I tell it to someone else,
they they're going to get it too.
So I started doing a lot ofresearch on quantum physics and
I realized that all of the allof these biblical scriptures
(41:04):
mimic what we've discovered withquantum physics.
If that makes sense, it's almostlike they prove one of one
another, and so I startedwriting books about, I started
writing everything down.
I have like this huge, likegrimoires, like zebra.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
What would you say?
One grimoire, one quantumtheory that you could bring up?
That um proves manifestation umproves in like spirituality as
far as like science.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Okay, um, okay.
Well, there's this.
One thing that I've beenthinking about recently is that
there's a scripture in the bible.
I believe that it says that Ithink it's before you, before
you even pray, it's alreadyyours, or like speak and it
should be yours.
I can't remember the scripturedo you seven?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
seven says asking, you shall receive.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, when I'm saying things like that, speaking of
mountains, will move, type ofthing.
Um, and there's in quantumphysics it.
They understand that everythingis already a part of you.
Everything is made out of yourbody, right, it's made up of
organs.
Those organs are made up ofcells.
Those cells are made up of, youknow, atoms.
(42:13):
Those atoms, subatomicparticles.
At the end of the day,subatomic particles, that's
energy right, everything isenergy, I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean, it isn't even what quantum fixes is like.
You know, like same way youthink in your mind, you can hold
in your hand exactly you.
If you're pitching, holdingyour mind, you're creating that
to draw towards you.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
That's still quantum exactly so, if you already
understand, if you start tounderstand that your, your
makeup is the same thing as thata hundred thousand dollar car
that you want, right, it'seasier for you to to attract
yourself to that thing.
And I don't want to just useclick, like you know, words like
attract and manifest and allthis stuff, but basically
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everything vibrates on afrequency and the reason why
we're sitting on this chairright now is because you, you
and I, all of our minds, arewilling this chair to exist.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
If that makes sense, collective consciousness yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Collective consciousness.
So if you understand that youare willing these things to
exist, then that means that thething that you want you already
have.
If that makes sense, if you,it's already yours, you don't
even have to ask because it'syours.
Do you see what I'm saying?
It's part of you, you're,you're part of it.
So it the way that I break itdown.
(43:28):
I have too many ways to to makeit make sense.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
if that makes sense I feel like, if I could just
chime in, um, I would say thething when it comes to when I
first started manifesting, orwhen I first started getting
into just like energy work andlearning how the universe works,
how to really put, bring thingsinto my reality, right, it was
(43:55):
once I started to reprogram mysubconscious mind, right, and
the only way you can reprogramyour subconscious mind is
through fooling or tricking yourconscious mind, right, and I
know it sounds ridiculous butthe way that I feel like it
works the way that I feel like Idid it, though, was through
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math, writing downmanifestations I mean the 369
manifestations.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, that's lit in.
How the government does is theymake you think you're this name
and they put it on a piece ofpaper exactly the manifestation
take you to jail.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
They also do um, which is crazy, because in
history, I was telling her aboutMao Zedong right, which is a
person who-.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Propaganda posters.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Right, exactly, I was trying to tell her about
propaganda posters.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
You have any more questions?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
No, no, no, keep going I was telling her about
propaganda posters and prettymuch how this person used
propaganda and reprogramming byplacing his face everywhere by
all this stuff by making peoplebelieve that this person was a
leader, if that makes sense.
He willed himself into that, ifthat makes sense he drawn it to
himself.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
He acted that way.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
And so I gave that to her.
Now she's using this type ofpropaganda too, and it's working
.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
We're here right now.
You get what I'm saying.
Well, we're going to have to doanother podcast, but we're
going to have to do anotherpodcast.
But they shut down my otherInstagram.
I'm hoping to get that back.
Don Kalam University.
That's how you're going tofollow me on Instagram, but go
get this book.
508 C1A Ministry Trust.
It's the number one bestsellerright now on Amazon, so go look
it up, but let us know how wecan follow y'all.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
For sure you can follow me on all platforms.
At Eternal ZionE-T-E-R-N-A-L-V-I-O-N.
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It's a lot of people pretendingto be me, so just please make
sure that you're following theright page.
I have over almost 500,000 onInstagram and I have 250,000 on
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TikTok.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yes, and my name is Buley.
You can find me at Buleystic.
That's B-U-E-L-E-S-T-I-C, andthat is on every single platform
.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yes, it's been a pleasure, thank you.
I'm still kicking it with y'alltoo, we still got more shit to
do.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, we still kicking it.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
And you can text Private Life to 702-200-4900.
Again, text Private Life to 70.
Peace and love.
It's your boy, don Kalam, alsoknown as Malik Kalam.
As always, prosperity is yourdivine birthright.
This is Dream Keepers Podcastand I'm in the building Dream
Keepers Radio Podcast.
I'm in the building withEternal Zion and Billie.
Let's start with Eternal Zion.
Where are you from?
Let us know a little bit aboutyou and let us know who she is
to introduce her and bring herin too.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, so my name is Eternal Zion.
I go by the nickname Shaysometimes, but I'm mainly known
for my financial literacy andwhat I teach on multiple
platforms like Instagram, tiktok, things like that.
So that's basically what I'mknown for, but we're going to
(00:42):
get more into it.
I do want to introduce mylovely lady here.
Go ahead, introduce yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, my name is Bewley, also known as Bewlistic,
and I am from Broward, florida,fort Lauderdale, and I also
talk about, you know, justquantum physics and how to
manifest using such and, yeah,lots of things.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Manifesting using quantum physics.
Absolutely yeah, no doubt.
I've actually the game that I'min and me and Eternal Zion
we're basically in the same game.
I don't even like how she saidfinancial literacy, because it's
bigger than rap it isdefinitely bigger.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
you do is the private life and it's bigger than just
financial literacy.
You can't even learn what youdo in financial literacy books.
It financial literacy.
You can't even learn these.
What you do in financialliteracy books, you're.
It's just state planning, youknow?
I mean, there's really no namethat they can give it, but it
ties in with everything.
So I want you to know.
I started with studying quantumphysics and things like that on
a spiritual level, before I evenstarted getting into these
things.
Um, and it was doing partbecause, like I don't know, it's
(01:40):
the only thing that made senseto me yeah, like I like then,
when I started this game thatwe're in because some people
call it's the only thing thatmade sense to me.
Yeah, like then when I startedthis gang that we're in because
some people call it, there's thenames that I don't like, though
.
Secure party credit, becausepeople don't know how to use it,
right, yeah.
They don't know how to say thatright?
They say they're a secure partycreditor because they have a
UCC-1.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, that's not a hold harmless indemnity
agreement.
It's so many other forms thatgo into it and entail the
protection of your trust, and ifyou don't have all of those in
order, then you're not actuallyprotecting yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I like that.
Asset protection that's anotherkey word.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Asset protection, asset protection that's another
key word Asset protection, assetprotection.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You're the asset.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yes, your name, everything.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
The reason why I'm excited to have you here is
because I feel like we have togive you your flowers, like
there ain't nobody shouting youout like they should be.
There's a lot of women thattried and failed this shit.
I don't know if you know, Idon't.
Even people went to the fedsall types of shit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you know they'd be doing some crazy shit yeah,
I mean, I can say some names,but I ain't gonna say no, but no
it's yeah, we're not gonna bemessy.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
we're not gonna be messy, but on the on the flip
side, because I don't I don'tknow if you really knew about me
, like I came into this gamewith the record label as well,
and I see that's what both ofy'all do.
And your fucking music is dopeby the way.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I appreciate that it really is this upcoming shit oh?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
yeah, yeah.
And another thing.
Another thing Y'all tapped inwith celebrities as well,
correct?
Another thing, another thingY'all tapped in with celebrities
as well, correct?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, yes, we are.
So it's so interesting.
The very first celebrity Iremember following me fully was
between Kyrie Irving.
Let's go Kyrie Irving, tyreseGibson, let's go.
And Jordan Sparks.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Damn for real Jordan Sparks.
Jordan Sparks follows me on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Instagram Wow sparks Damn For real Jordan Sparks.
Jordan Sparks follows me onInstagram Wow, and it's so
interesting because it's likethey.
I feel like they watch me.
They definitely watch, but theydon't necessarily engage as
much.
I feel like I'm just more sohere to kind of just educate and
I think they definitely look atmy content, they definitely
look at things that I talk about, but they don't necessarily
(04:05):
engage as much.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But it's okay.
And what about any celebritiesyou're tapped into?
Yeah, a lot I know I heard someof the stories.
We go into.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
We kind of like attract different, you know
types of people.
So one of them was Dochi.
Another one is Rico Nasty.
You know XXXTentacion.
Let's go.
One is Rico Nasty, you knowXXXTentacion.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
People, you know people like that we have a lot.
Of you know it was big namesthough, yeah, you feel me,
there's a lot Big names.
The reason why I like this?
Because for me it was able whenI don't remember the first
celebrity that followed me, butI know when Kevin Gates hit me
up.
But you gotta understand I goin their DMs.
As soon as they follow me I hitlike I go in their DMs.
You mentioned John Sally too.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I had talked to John Sally as well.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Kevin Garnett, waka Flocka Flame.
But I slide in their DM whenthey follow me.
I say thank you for yoursupport ASAP.
I say here's my number.
Anything you need, just reachout to me.
That's wonderful.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's wonderful I think that I don't.
The reason I don't do that isbecause I don't want them to
feel like I'm, you know, tryingto insert myself somewhere, um,
and I kind of would like to justkeep it open.
It's like if they're interestedin anything, then of course I'm
more than willing to um, givethem my services.
(05:22):
But it's also I'm not chasinganything, right?
So you still going to?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
pay.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So for me, I'm a little bit different.
I have gave leeway and helpedsome celebrities for free, but I
make sure that it's, you know,fair exchange ain't robbery.
Can you shout me out?
Yeah, can you give me areferral?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, like because literally how I got
known was based off referralshelping people for free yeah.
Because, I was helping doingthis stuff in the hood and it's
not stuff I like to do right now, but I know Zion can co-sign
for this stuff, because some andsome people might say this shit
ain't true.
But I started helping peoplewith weed cases and drug cases,
coke cases.
I go straight to them.
(06:08):
Like you know, your name's abusiness.
What happens if Walgreens sellsa bad drug?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Who's going to?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
jail.
They got 30 days of cease anddesist.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, they can call it fake, but there's
testimonies out there.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They got their paperwork together Exactly, and
that's interesting you bringthat up because I was recently
um, this was probably last yearI was actually arrested in Texas
, um and I.
I actually was in jail forthree days.
I didn't know necessarily theremedy of how to um get out of
(06:37):
jail, but when I got out, when Igot out, I created my affidavit
of truth, I created mystatements, um, I attached my
legal demand notice, um, and Ibasically sued them.
I'm suing them 425 millionright now.
But also, I got those casescompletely dismissed.
They tried to tell me that Ineeded to take a four hour
course, um, and I told them Ihumbly declined that.
(07:00):
Um, I'm suing you guys already.
You're in the wrong.
You have my paperwork.
The prosecution has mypaperwork.
They literally went over it andit's so interesting because I
still ended up having a publicattorney.
I still ended up having apublic attorney.
I told him I don't need you torepresent me, I'll just need you
to give my paperwork to theprosecution.
I'm not finna, keep flying backand forth from california to
(07:24):
texas.
I'm not about to continue to dothis.
So, uh, he basically took mypaperwork.
He said did what you asked.
I gave your paperwork to theprosecution and instantly
prosecution.
Hit him back like we'll drop thecases, but only if she take
this, this class.
But notice, if I had agreed totake in that class, that would
have been me agreeing that I waswrong admission of guilt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That would have been my admission of guilt, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So I told them no and literally, three days later,
the same Lord hit me up.
He said he said yeah, theydropped the cases, they
dismissed the cases.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm like of course they did.
Congratulations.
We call that standing on yoursquare.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Standing on your square.
Yes, With the more verse.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Demographics is the graph of demons.
So can you prove that Texasexists, or is it just invisible
lines?
Demographics is the graph ofdemons.
That's how I play the game withit you know cause you God body,
they the devil, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
So the first case I ever beat Iwas in federal custody.
I want you to know the statecourts are way harder than
federal courts.
A lot of people don't know thatstate courts are harder than
(08:24):
federal courts.
You need to take that shit tothe federal level.
But mine was for counterfeitingmoney.
I got popped for counterfeitingmoney and that's when I started
learning the game, because I'mreading the codes and the
statutes and I'm like this iscopyright infringement, this
ain't counterfeiting money.
Because only.
Congress provide punishment foruttering and counterfeiting
securities in the United States.
(08:44):
That's not a security.
In the United States theFederal Reserve knows it's not
real money, nor is it a security, it's just the in God.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
we trust it's a note from the in God we trust.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But with the federal courts.
They wouldn't allow me torepresent myself.
I always said sui juris.
I object when they say pro se,what's the pro sec cuter
prosecutor?
Pro sec cuter?
So you part of theirjurisdiction?
Sui juris means the right tocontract.
Yeah, you're right, mind.
So they, those og was like justmake them your, uh, co-counsel,
(09:17):
appoint them as co-counsel,because the they, the courts,
wouldn't talk to me directly.
They couldn't recognize me.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I didn't recognize them right, so we had to have
that mediated.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So that's what made sense when you said that Like he
was still representing you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was still representing me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you didyour shit right, though.
I did it right, and that's whatI'm saying.
It's completely okay for you toknow the life and you know how
not to even deal with the system, right?
There's so many different waysof participation, but because I
(09:50):
signed that, that, I signedsomething in jail for me to get
out that was messed up.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Right, I put my signature down.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So as soon as I put my signature down, I'm instantly
in a jurisdiction.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
There's nothing I can do.
Signature, sign in nature.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I signed.
I signed in order for me to getout of jail.
So it was because I did that Ihad to use their system against.
I used their own penal codesagainst them.
I charged officers with assault.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's what you're supposed to do.
I told you officers wereaggravated assault, kidnapping,
abuse of power.
Facts, I charge them.
But, and you just keepdemanding the oath of offices
and the delegation of authorityorders, like I'm not gonna make
it all about court today, but Iask them first of all can you
show me a piece of paper thatstates that your power is
(10:34):
greater than my higher powers?
Right, they can't do it youknow their power derives from
God.
You know the Bible's a fact inthe courtroom.
A lot of people don't know that,and that's why you make things
in red too.
That's the living word you knowin the Bible, when Jesus all
the words are red.
Also in the courtroom.
Have you heard of he's passedaway now but David Wynn Miller,
(10:55):
you ever heard of him?
I haven't.
So he did something calledquantum language, so he's
talking about quantum.
Yeah, and this shit works inthe courtroom as well, because
it's your own language.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's the way we speak.
It's like adverb verb.
It does something to the brain,okay, and he was able to.
It's mathematics and it justleaves you hanging.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Could you give me like an example?
I can?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not on a deep level, but you would understand.
Okay, okay, mortgages getdischarged with this shit.
Yeah, david Wynn Miller, that'shis name.
He said he was a federal postaljudge.
He was a formal king because,remember, I told you about the
king of Hawaii.
He was a self-proclaimed kingof Hawaii, though he didn't have
(11:34):
the blood.
In order to be royalty inHawaii, you've got to have the
lineage.
They still keep track of thebloodline.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Were they respecting him though?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, there was, he was getting respect because he's
beaten cases.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know, and he's going to England beating cases
Like he's in a place all overthe world, yeah, so yeah, I'm
surprised you haven't ran intothis yet.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, I haven't, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
David, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
David Wynn, as fuck I didn't really understand it.
So I mean, I understood it, butI didn't, and so so, and then
he, it's like it's a form ofnumerology mixed in with that
shit, because everything adds upyeah, so is it kind of like how
you, how you're very familiarwith breaking down like the
etymology of like words andthings like that.
So it's like you're rearranging.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah and and like sometimes I don't know, I I
like that, you I like likedoing that with my people.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's on a different level.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But you know you can't.
I can't break an etymology of aword in China.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, you know.
So this is all a game.
This is all a game.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And we just mastered the game over here in Western
philosophy so to speak, you know, in the Western hemisphere.
That's how I'm looking at it.
But that's how I'm looking atit.
But Admiralty Law works allover the world.
Maritime Law works all over theworld, just like these 508C1As
All over the world.
We can create an offshore trustwith a 508C1A.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And ministries faith-based all over the world.
So how long you?
Because you just startedtalking about that.
I heard you talking aboutfaith-based organizations
508C1As.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
How long you been familiar with that.
That's literally the firstthing I learned.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's literally the first thing that put me on.
There was a man.
His name is Elisha Royal, andI'll never forget him Shout out
to Elisha.
Shout out to Elisha.
Yeah, he was on the show.
He literally told me about howhe had this case against.
I just remember him.
He had his case.
He had a case and they put himin jail.
He did not sign any papers.
(13:28):
They kept him in there for over260-something days.
He's suing them for over $460million and he never signed
anything.
They let him out.
They let him out of jail, Neverwent to court, Never did
nothing, I mean.
And then he told me, he saidit's because he has his own
(13:48):
jurisdiction, His jurisdictionis his ministry.
So, I asked him well, how doesthat work?
Man has his own license plates.
He told me, he has his own.
He creates his ownidentification cards, his tribal
.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
ID cards.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
He told me he has his own constitution, bylaws.
I mean, this man had everythingand he literally coached me
through as far as how powerful a508C1A is, and when I learned
about that, that was the veryfirst thing that I wanted to
dive into.
And then I started diving intomore of trust law and like what
(14:29):
is a trust Right?
What is an offshore trust?
What does it mean to reallyprotect your assets Right?
And then, of course, we learnmore about like the probate and
how to avoid probate and how to.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You know.
You know what I'm saying andhow to how the government.
You know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's the rabbit hole and it's the rabbit hole, but
that was the very first thingthat I actually learned about as
far as the 508C1A.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's amazing.
I'm not trying to throw you offeither, but do you know about
the 508C1A, because you did agreat job talking about it on
the phone yesterday, everythingI won't lie everything that I've
learned about it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I have learned from Eternal Zion.
I did, you know, speak toElijah a couple of times, you
know, but it's a process and Ithink that when you get into it
I'm very familiar.
But there's so many codes thatI can't just like identify.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Like she can name them off, rip, but I know I'm
familiar with everything.
501c1a is definitely a code,yeah, and it's different than
the 501C3.
So the 501c3 is a nonprofit anda public and it will take away
your freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yes, yes, no, I'm familiar.
I've worked with them.
You get what I'm saying.
I worked for a nonprofit.
I was a banking director forHip Hop, for Change, things like
that, oh, that's lit.
That's why, when you were goingdoor to door, in your past I
was like, oh, canvassing salesstuff, some of the hardest jobs
ever.
So I respect anybody who coulddeal with customer service like
that and you guys, with the workthat you do, you have to deal
(15:49):
with people on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And it's so tedious.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And the work that you guys are doing is so tedious.
Just to go back on to Elijah,the resiliency you have to have
to, you know, even deal withthat, know your rights and know
that these, even the people thatyou're dealing with, don't know
your rights as well and usingthat as a factor against you is
crazy.
I mean it's insane that he getsto like sue them now and get it
now.
But you know that also issomething that causes a lot of
(16:16):
fear in people to not even wantto operate in a private Right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The fact that he had to spend 260 days in jail to
prove his point.
So listen, can I tell yousomething?
Though she ended up signingshit.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
If you're doing your shit correctly, they have to let
you go in 72 hours.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You said three days.
So whatever you was doing, youwas doing it correctly.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
They have to let you go in 72 hours.
If you're doing everythingcorrectly.
Now, if you got your trust setup, you got your tribe set up,
you got your church set up andyou don't give them your
identification, theyautomatically have to treat you
as a foreigner or a national.
But, that being stated, youhave to have an ambassador or a
counselor they can call toverify who you are.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
See, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, it's all good.
I got you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I rock with tribes, though you know what I mean A
lot of tribes.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Absolutely, I rock with tribes, though you know
what I mean A lot of tribes,Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The one thing I will say I learned about the 508C1A
is mainly because I hate taxes.
I feel like taxes are thedumbest thing ever when it comes
to this country and I was likewhen I create my businesses and
(17:24):
when I start to sell products orcreate certain programs and
things like that, I was like Idon't want to give them a dime
of your own.
You know, you know 508 C1Aministry, but you can literally
(17:49):
write it off as a tax deductibledonation.
And then Elisha told me you canuse your five-way C1A and
create a create like a creditagency and loan the money back
to yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
What's the?
What's the Vatican do?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Exactly, and that is being actively practiced today.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And with the loan, it's not considered income.
Yeah, so you don't have to.
It's not considered reportedincome.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So how I move is?
You know.
I got the.
I rap for God, you know, justlike you Record label.
They work for the 508C1A Rightand everything goes to the
church.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And I'm in debt with the record label.
That's where I get my loansfrom.
Just like them, just like anyother artist.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
That's how I move.
I'm always in debt.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Exactly them just like any other artist, right,
that's how I move, I'm always indebt.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Exactly, we are always in debt yeah, we're
always in debt, but um, anotherthing I want to ask is do you
think that you understand thatshe's telling the truth?
Because you're spiritual?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
initially.
Well, okay, so let's get intoit, because we've known each
other for quite some time.
I've known zion before she waszion.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So so, um, initially I wasalmost like a guide for her
spiritually.
She would come and ask me abunch of things and then she led
her own way into comedicism andit went down this path with the
Moors and all this stuff.
(19:09):
But as far as, like, I feellike I'm very intuitive, and in
high school there was a personnamed Young Pharaoh that I know
he's still.
He's still around today.
He's still around doing thisthing today or whatever.
But, um, I had, like a bunch offriends that put me onto him
and it brought me into thiswhole spiral of you know, just
(19:32):
just a spiritual spiral thatkind of pulled me out of where I
was at, which is PentecostalChristianity just started making
me question everything.
Once I started questioningeverything, that's when, you
know, my spirituality reallybecame to like began to open up.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Y'all are a couple correct.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So before you was you met her, you was already
speaking in tongues.
Yes, I was already.
I was speaking in tongues sinceI was eight.
You know what I'm saying.
I was speaking in tonguesforever.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But yeah, I definitely felt like she was
telling the truth, but alsobecause but even before I met
her, I have rent because of thepeople that I know.
You know, I told you about mycommunity, my family.
They're wealthy, higher uppeople and they're very
spiritual.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Can we, can we, can I ?
Can we talk about who yourfather is?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
no, oh my gosh, where you from?
Yes, okay, so my family is.
We're jamaican, um, and myfather is an ambassador in
jamaica and you know he's alwaysan ambassador for jamaica?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
yes, am zion you doing it big over here?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
yes, yes and then no, but she didn't know that we're
honestly.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We were discovering that because my father he's not
he's not all too present.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I've known him for you know, forever, but you know,
yes, and then, um, I wasn'teven referring to him, I was
actually referring to x, his, um, his family.
They're very tapped in, they'revery, you know, spiritual and
our family is, you know they.
Once you, I feel like one, Ifeel like you know wealth is
faded.
That I feel like I feel likeyou know wealth is faded.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's how I feel Wow .
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's deep, yeah, and I feel like, if you, if that
, if it's meant for you, if it'sdesigned for you, then it will
be no matter what.
You just have to follow yourpath, type of thing.
And that side of my family has,and because I see the spiritual
differences between both sidesof my family, ones that, like,
resonate in poverty and onesthat resonate in wealth I was
(21:22):
able to you know tell thatthings are true.
So when she discovered this,you know and we chose.
Yeah, when she discovered thisum information, it was like
isn't elijah part of like themore, more like community?
Once I discovered thatinformation, I I knew for a fact
that it was true, so I justtold her I, I was like listen
all these people that's tryingto push you off, all these
people that are trying to youknow they're going to get their
(21:45):
lick back soon.
I just kept encouraging her.
I'm like keep learning.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's why I think it's also crucial to understand
or understand, sorry.
I think it's crucial tounderstand that this is why it's
called the matrix.
There is a multitude of peoplewho willingly, willfully and
unknowingly work for the matrix.
That is why they do not believeus.
(22:10):
That is why they continue to goalong with their lives, they
continue to go along with theirnine-to-fives, allowing these
people to completely use them.
Um, just through paperwork,yeah, just through contracts
alone.
They don't question.
Why was there ever anybody onthis earth who decided to stand
(22:30):
on a mountain of gold and saythis is mine?
Why are there people that existon this planet that will go
into an area, put a flag down?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
and say this is mine.
You don't question this.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You just say oh, this is what war is for.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
This is why we have war in the military.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This is why we kill each other.
And it's so weird because y'alldon't understand that the
creator of this universe neversaid y'all are.
Y'all don't understand that the, the creator of of this
universe, never said y'all ownanything.
Y'all have signed contractsthat that have willing and
willingly give up your rights,exactly so that you can be owned
(23:11):
this world and people can ownyou and say what they, what they
own.
That's the only reason why youbelieve that stuff.
But if you didn't sign anycontracts, you have the creator
and you have your God givenrights to be here.
You want to?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
know it's interesting that you say that, because it's
it.
This kind of goes into how Ifeel like people think about
themselves as much as we go intothe system and how much people
put fear into people and thereasons why people are so
complacent with this type ofsystem.
I feel like a lot of people,even even this country right,
it's built on, like you said,the government and the church,
like religion, religion you knowwhat I'm saying Separation of
(23:46):
church and state, all this othertype of stuff.
You know what I'm talking about.
But people in America, a lot ofpeople are religious, but the
limitations that they put onthemselves make me feel like
they really don't understandlike their access to God and
their access to freedom, andlike they put limitations on God
if that makes sense, they puttheir own limitations.
(24:07):
So the fact that like somebodycould come and tell you that you
are not free is insane to me.
If you believe that God isomniscient and omnipotent.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's like government is the control of man's mind.
The control of my freedom is astate of mind.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I'm going to go back to what she said about, you
know, these contracts.
When we talk about, con means aswindle, and then track means
treaty.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So it's a fake treaty out the gate, right.
So you know, even in the HolyBible it says that you don't
make a covenant outside of God.
And that's what you do when yousign the birth certificate.
The birth certificate shows youwho your maker is.
I just want to say, though,y'all are the wisest women that
I've ever sat down and talked to.
Thank you, I'm glad y'all fuckwith me.
It gets wiser.
Well, I mean, I feel like it'shard, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So what's really hard for women is when you are in,
when you are placed in this,this situation, um.
Are you placed in householdsthat teach you that you are to
be a mother?
You are to be someone, um, whoonly exists in your femininity,
right, right.
You are to be someone whocaters to men, right.
And when you're taught this,this ideology, um, it's really
(25:22):
harder for women to break intobecoming more independent.
That's why, in 1974, when wehad the opportunity, um, what is
it the opportunity act?
What it the first one?
About the suffrage?
Yeah, so in 1974, there wasequal opportunity, oh, there you
go yeah.
(25:42):
So it allowed not only allowedwomen to have bank accounts, but
allowed them to build their owncredit.
This is why divorce rates wenthigh, because what was happening
?
Was that women were forced tobe in relationships with men in
order for them to have afinancial security.
So, whenever we have women inthese abusive situations with
(26:06):
these men, right, because, atthe end of the day, a man is
very transactional.
Men are transactional.
If you cannot provide somethingfor them, if it's not
beneficial for them, there's noreason for them to have you
there.
So if you are, if you are awoman and you're providing
something for the man, then ofcourse, right.
But if you're, if you're not,um, it can lead to a very
(26:28):
abusive type of uh, dynamiccontrol.
So what was happening was womenfinally had the opportunity to
be free from men and not have torely on them financially, and
that's why we have Rihanna today, who's a freaking billionaire.
We have women today who owntheir own businesses, who are
creating, like restaurants thatare health conscious, like.
(26:51):
We have women today who aremaking changes and strides
within our business industrybecause they were allowed to,
because now we're allowed toeducate ourselves, we're allowed
to read these books and getinto into these.
You know things, but peoplelike us, we be in the house
that's why you don't see us.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's why you don't talk to us.
Before I became Don Colombo I'mnot saying that's right or
that's wrong I only fuck withgirls who had good credit cause,
uh, I needed somewhere to stay.
You know.
Oh, my God, I wasn't going tostay in, no bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just too honest.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let me show y'all how to get your credit score
together, girl, right right.
That's what I was using thisshit for, though, but that shit
don't get you believe.
It takes a man to raise a man,but a woman to raise a nation.
Information starts at the timeof conception, so I love a woman
that gets money.
I love a wise woman as well,you know, because money is just
not good enough, because I triedthat too.
(27:45):
You know hoes get money.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, that's very true.
That's a mindset, that's verytrue, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So it's just like what else can to the table.
But I believe this is, you knowyou either pimping or tricking.
You either alpha or beta, andthat's why I asked about y'all.
Both of y'all have very alphaenergy.
So I was like how's that workout for y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Because I know it's all bad.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Listen.
If y'all clashing, I know it'sall bad Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I was saying that we switch.
We switch when needed and werecognize where each other's
strengths and weaknesses are.
We try to help each other outon those routes.
That's why we try to alwaysstay open.
You know what I'm saying.
We never act like we knoweverything, if that makes sense
and we realize we've beentogether for six years now.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's amazing.
Congratulations, it's a longtime.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
So, with that being said, we're growing up together.
Right, we got together when wewere children, if that makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That's lit.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
If anything, we're constantly changing.
So she's going to come on someinformation that I don't know.
I'm going to come on someinformation that she doesn't
know, and a lot of thisinformation is life-changing and
it ends up being changing ourlives a lot.
So we got to be ready to adaptand encourage and, like all the
time, be aware.
Yeah, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Would you say you would check more men clients or
female clients?
Um, interesting enough, it's 5050 wow, that's lit, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know, with me it's usually older women.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's older women, yeah older women, young like
2018 to 21 I get young women aswell.
So it's very interesting, um,my recent clients have been
women, um, and they are blackwomen and very much well uh,
interested in just protectingtheir.
They're more so worried abouttheir children than anything.
(29:39):
And I just I love that.
I love that I'm able toactually help them and, you know
, give them the information thatthey need in order to, you know
, protect their children andprotect themselves.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
You're a living testimony, though, because
there's not too many women thatare representing you.
Know what you guys talk about.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So, like, a lot of women don'teven feel like they have the
space, uh, to enter these typeof things.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
If that makes sense.
I mean to be honest, they, theydon't yeah, yeah, no, I mean
this and even the men shouldn'tbe entering this space Like
you're living what you'retalking about.
You understand what I'm saying?
These people don't live.
They come just like somebodycaught me.
It was like hey, I know you'vebeen talking about Zion, that
you're kicking their water, butdo you want me to send you this
Because they're selling her shit, or they were like they're
(30:43):
gonna buy the 90 dollar book,but they're gonna spend 1500 for
me to do the paperwork right.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Thank you, listen, let's go you can't just take a
piece all of it is connected toone another.
They're going to end up goingright back to you anyway.
I mean, we are the dope, yeahyou know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We are the dope.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like, when you talk about it like this is why I love
because, no, you know, I was, Iwas there with you yesterday,
even though you was working allday.
I, I was still there andpresent and you didn't shut the
door or nothing.
You know what I'm saying, like,even though I didn't hear you
what you were saying, becausewe're talking, we're having our
own thing Business, businessmeetings.
Oh yeah, shut the door, butlisten, I know that you're not
(31:23):
on the computer, you're notlooking through no books All
this shit coming from right here.
Yeah, yeah absolutely, you knowwhat I'm saying what you're
spitting is in you.
And then I loved another thing.
I loved about you yesterdaybecause I don't remember a lot
of shit, and I think I like thatbecause I don't lie.
When you start trying toremember shit, you start lying
and truth never changes.
Anything else is falsehood,right, but when I showed you
(31:45):
certain paperwork and thingslike that, and you just know
exactly where it's supposed togo, oh, yeah, or what it can do,
yeah, to where it's supposed togo.
Oh yeah, or what it can do.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I said damn, that kind of.
Took me a little time to figurethat one out.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You did say that, but no learning how to research.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
it Just like off of this this 508C1H trust it
literally I had to eat, sleepand shit it for nine months to
conquer this motherfucker, likeI didn't study nothing else.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, no it gets, it gets very deep.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I think that because, like I said, I had, I
had people, I had people whowere more than willing to mentor
no, I know, I know, but I'msaying, like you told me, you
studied this by yourself well, Ihad to at the end of the day
because well, so the I want youto know.
When I I got, I'm glad Istudied it, but then it took me
(32:45):
to something calledunincorporated associations so
you don't even have to use the508C1A.
The 508 c1a.
The 508 c1a is anunincorporated association in
itself, but you got it becauseyou know under article 1,
section 10, the government can'tinterfere with a private
contract yeah so are you.
All you need is your bylaws allyou need is your constitution
yeah a mission statement or youknow.
Then you have the, yourtrustees, or y'all have a trust
(33:07):
meeting.
You can use meeting minutes toopen up a bank account.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tknow that yeah, yeah, there's,
and that's the.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's also not to put myself on um, but that's in
my ministry starter kit.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So that's lit every, so you got a ministry starter
kit right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, my ministry starter kit has everything in
there, from what you need like,from the claim of life to your
declaration, everything, andthen you basically appoint your
managing director and then youwant to have at least two
witnesses to basically signthose documents.
You get them notarized andafter that, boom, boom, take
that paperwork down.
You can go and open up a bankaccount if you wanted to bank
(33:50):
account, if you wanted to and ifyou wanted to get an EIN, like
you said, you can fax in um your.
You can fax in an EIN or aapplication.
I think it's the S S, what is?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
it SS4.
So the.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
SS4, um, and then you don't have to put your social
security number down at all.
So, and that's what helps Like,and then you get that, that
private EIN number, you get that, um, you take your, you know
all of your paperwork down andyou can open up a ministry bank
account like that.
Wow, so, and and it's very,very powerful, because no one's,
(34:23):
no one can question you.
That's the thing about themajor differences when you were
talking about the 501c3.
And when I learned about thosemajor differences and how they
literally can't question you,they can't try to seize anything
from you, they can't like takeaway your right to any type of
(34:44):
grants or whatever the case maybe.
They can't do it, it'simpossible.
You're a 508C18.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And then that is my benefit because, because you
know, I do operate in the publicwith LLC's, I consider them
pastoral entities.
Now, on a strict private level,you're going to discourage that
, but at the end of the day, Ilove using it.
If you're using it correctly,you're still going to be a
non-taxpayer.
I'm going to say that we don'tpay taxes, but we, a
non-taxpayer, I'm going to saythat.
I don't say we don't pay taxes,but we are non-taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Because we don't.
A tax is a contribution anyways.
Yes, it's voluntary.
Everybody doesn't know that,but with that covenant, the
birth certificate proves whoyour maker is.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So a baptismal certificate, baby land deeds,
affidavits of live birth.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm not sure what you use.
I always say it's the affidavitof live birth.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's what you use, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That is what I recommend for people as far as
when they're trying to set uptheir baby and make it, say they
have it at home or something.
Yeah, so you could have themidwife.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Sign it um, because that's lit yeah listen, I'd be
helping her with her.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Do you feel me?
The clients and stuff.
I'd be knowing what's.
They're licensed.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
They're literally licensed so they can sign for
you on your affidavit of birth.
And what's really crazy isbecause you will look at the
passport documents.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
That's needed and you scroll all the way down.
They got all of that there.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You're going to scroll all the way down on their
website and you're going to seeaffidavit of birth and it's
going to piss you off.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They actually have a form for affidavit of live birth
, for birth certificate.
You don't have to put your shiton, you use theirs, that's
exactly what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's so crazy.
I'm glad you know.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And you can take that down and get a national
passport.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
What's crazy is all these other gurus that you talk
to.
They're not going to tell youthis shit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
They're not.
They're not and it's likeit's's so, and my thing is I, I
really look forward to, tocreating with you and that's
what I mean you have.
We have so much informationthat we need to organize.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm getting behind her so it's like she's the
leader, she's the fucking leader.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm still not gonna be accessible, though we're not
doing all yeah, but I'll be theface all right, but, um, we are
creating courses, and I'mtalking about real video courses
for you guys.
That breaks it, because I knowthat people have learning
disabilities.
Right, some people are visuallearners that's all of us.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Most people are visual learners, right?
That's why everybody knows billnye, the science guy let's go,
let's go learners yeah no, whatI wanted to say, not to cut you
short.
What I want to say is almostall of us have learning
disabilities, or you would knowthe shit that we're speaking
right, right, some form of someform of fashion.
(37:52):
Real knowledge will be thequantum.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah the spiritual knowledge.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I got this through spirituality, spiritual
downloads, yeah like simple asthat yeah, absolutely,
absolutely, yeah, I agree now,how do you learn so like?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
so let's break down this quantum, what you?
Actually do okay, so basicallyall right so you got a book too,
right?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Okay, so let's run it back.
All right, so initially, um onmultiple platforms.
I am a, I'm a priestess, I'm ashaman.
I am initiated in in multiplereligions.
Some people would be againstthat, but I am.
I'm almost like a spiritualwanderer.
Yes, I'll share.
In fact, if I is one of the mainones and, olarisha, I was for a
(38:40):
long time and pretty much whatit is for me is, I got into it
through spirituality and then Iended up going into, you know,
just self-help books that workon psychology and spirituality
and mixing those two together,and once I went through that, I
(39:03):
ended up finding little tidbitsof like science in these books,
in these self-help books, and Iwas like, wait a minute, no, you
know what I'm saying.
Like back up, why is this?
Why are these like connectingfor me?
Why am I getting aha momentswhen you know the, when science
is placed into it, and I feltlike it was two sides of the
same coin that were like beingbrought together, if that makes
sense.
And so I felt like, well, ifI'm having an aha moment with
(39:23):
science, then that means thatscience and spirituality are
connected and we need to stopbringing.
We need to stop, I feel like,what's happening with people and
stopping people from being ableto like control this world the
way that they want to, is thatwe're separating things that
should not be separated it'skind of like how they take books
of the Bible out.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
So you can't you know what I'm saying, so you can't
learn like the book of Thomasand the book of Enoch, enoch and
the right, exactly.
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
If Cain killed Abel, then Cain already knew his wife.
Then they began to begot Enoch,where's his wife come from?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Right, exactly Because y'all don't know that
there's two creations in theBible, we're not going to get
into.
Genesis, verse 20.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Okay, no, but it's intentional, right, it's
absolutely intentional.
Though it's absolutelyintentional, I feel like that's
also something that was intended.
That are slipping past peopleis that science and spirituality
are not separate.
The church used a lot ofscience as well when it comes to
Ifa.
When you go to, like your Babelhour, your priest or anything
(40:23):
like that, and you come to themwith issues or things like that
on your path, they're writingyou what they would call
prescriptions, do you?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
They would call it prescriptions, because this is's
like they, it's like thescience of spirituality.
That's what I consider ifa.
So just me going on on thislittle tidbit.
That's kind of how I I divedinto.
It was through these self-helpbooks that mesh like they put
little tidbits of science intoit and so I felt like if that
was the aha moment for me, thenif I tell it to someone else,
they they're going to get it too.
So I started doing a lot ofresearch on quantum physics and
I realized that all of the allof these biblical scriptures
(41:04):
mimic what we've discovered withquantum physics.
If that makes sense, it's almostlike they prove one of one
another, and so I startedwriting books about, I started
writing everything down.
I have like this huge, likegrimoires, like zebra.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
What would you say?
One grimoire, one quantumtheory that you could bring up?
That um proves manifestation umproves in like spirituality as
far as like science.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Okay, um, okay.
Well, there's this.
One thing that I've beenthinking about recently is that
there's a scripture in the bible.
I believe that it says that Ithink it's before you, before
you even pray, it's alreadyyours, or like speak and it
should be yours.
I can't remember the scripturedo you seven?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
seven says asking, you shall receive.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, when I'm saying things like that, speaking of
mountains, will move, type ofthing.
Um, and there's in quantumphysics it.
They understand that everythingis already a part of you.
Everything is made out of yourbody, right, it's made up of
organs.
Those organs are made up ofcells.
Those cells are made up of, youknow, atoms.
(42:13):
Those atoms, subatomicparticles.
At the end of the day,subatomic particles, that's
energy right, everything isenergy, I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean, it isn't even what quantum fixes is like.
You know, like same way youthink in your mind, you can hold
in your hand exactly you.
If you're pitching, holdingyour mind, you're creating that
to draw towards you.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
That's still quantum exactly so, if you already
understand, if you start tounderstand that your, your
makeup is the same thing as thata hundred thousand dollar car
that you want, right, it'seasier for you to to attract
yourself to that thing.
And I don't want to just useclick, like you know, words like
attract and manifest and allthis stuff, but basically
(42:55):
everything vibrates on afrequency and the reason why
we're sitting on this chairright now is because you, you
and I, all of our minds, arewilling this chair to exist.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
If that makes sense, collective consciousness yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Collective consciousness.
So if you understand that youare willing these things to
exist, then that means that thething that you want you already
have.
If that makes sense, if you,it's already yours, you don't
even have to ask because it'syours.
Do you see what I'm saying?
It's part of you, you're,you're part of it.
So it the way that I break itdown.
(43:28):
I have too many ways to to makeit make sense.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
if that makes sense I feel like, if I could just
chime in, um, I would say thething when it comes to when I
first started manifesting, orwhen I first started getting
into just like energy work andlearning how the universe works,
how to really put, bring thingsinto my reality, right, it was
(43:55):
once I started to reprogram mysubconscious mind, right, and
the only way you can reprogramyour subconscious mind is
through fooling or tricking yourconscious mind, right, and I
know it sounds ridiculous butthe way that I feel like it
works the way that I feel like Idid it, though, was through
(44:16):
math, writing downmanifestations I mean the 369
manifestations.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, that's lit in.
How the government does is theymake you think you're this name
and they put it on a piece ofpaper exactly the manifestation
take you to jail.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
They also do um, which is crazy, because in
history, I was telling her aboutMao Zedong right, which is a
person who-.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Propaganda posters.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Right, exactly, I was trying to tell her about
propaganda posters.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
You have any more questions?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
No, no, no, keep going I was telling her about
propaganda posters and prettymuch how this person used
propaganda and reprogramming byplacing his face everywhere by
all this stuff by making peoplebelieve that this person was a
leader, if that makes sense.
He willed himself into that, ifthat makes sense he drawn it to
himself.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
He acted that way.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
And so I gave that to her.
Now she's using this type ofpropaganda too, and it's working
.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
We're here right now.
You get what I'm saying.
Well, we're going to have to doanother podcast, but we're
going to have to do anotherpodcast.
But they shut down my otherInstagram.
I'm hoping to get that back.
Don Kalam University.
That's how you're going tofollow me on Instagram, but go
get this book.
508 C1A Ministry Trust.
It's the number one bestsellerright now on Amazon, so go look
it up, but let us know how wecan follow y'all.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
For sure you can follow me on all platforms.
At Eternal ZionE-T-E-R-N-A-L-V-I-O-N.
There's no numbers, nounderscores.
It's a lot of people pretendingto be me, so just please make
sure that you're following theright page.
I have over almost 500,000 onInstagram and I have 250,000 on
(45:47):
TikTok.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yes, and my name is Buley.
You can find me at Buleystic.
That's B-U-E-L-E-S-T-I-C, andthat is on every single platform
.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yes, it's been a pleasure, thank you.
I'm still kicking it with y'alltoo, we still got more shit to
do.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, we still kicking it.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
And you can text Private Life to 702-200-4900.
Again, text Private Life to 70.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!