February 27, 2025 • 53 mins
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Mig (00:11):
Welcome back to the Drifting on Arroyo podcast.
This is Mig, this is Lano andno rk67.
Oh so I guess I should just bestaring into the camera then as
I speak because, otherwise Igotta got a lot on my back, so
that's not really gonna work.
Lano (00:28):
He had us waiting 30 minutes.
I'm on the way, I'm on the way.
And then he never showed up.
He was having trouble turninghis computer on or something.
Mig (00:39):
I think it's more technical difficulties than that, but I'm
pretty sure he'll chew your assout when he sees you.
Lano (00:46):
So we're trying to start another streak.
So, um, this is, I guess, umEpisode 2 of our streak, to keep
it going, and Rick alreadybroke it.
Mig (00:55):
So Episode 2, after the the caca episodes.
Lano (01:00):
Yeah, and then um Did Ricky?
You don't know if he's he's onthat 75-day streak.
I know he broke it last week,but is he back on it, ready for
the marathon?
Mig (01:10):
I'm pretty sure he stayed on it, right.
I think he just fell off thewagon a little bit.
That one time.
I don't think he got off of it,though He'll still be on it.
Lano (01:23):
Well, um, luckily, we um we mentioned the phone number,
cause we got some calls.
Mig (01:31):
Oh, people called.
Lano (01:32):
People called so.
Mig (01:34):
Are they calling about the fires or the winds, or?
Lano (01:37):
Um calling about us.
Mig (01:38):
How much we suck.
Lano (01:40):
Calling about us.
Let me see if I can Get it onthe.
Mig (01:46):
On the air they're ripping us a new one.
Lano (01:51):
Oh, it's a different window.
Alright, so let me see.
Alright, so this is the phonecall.
Let me see if I got this set upcorrectly.
Mig (02:11):
Here we go and that hotline number again.
Lano (02:13):
Oh yeah, read the hotline 323-207-0012 323-207-0-7 0-0-1-2
.
Alright, call number one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Do it.
So you guys are back.
That's great.
After a month and a half youguys are back and we're barely
15 minutes into the show.
And Rick you called it Mig, youknow what RZA looks like and
ask who's RZA?
My goodness man, you're such aboomer bro.
Mig (02:49):
For sure, you were born in the 70s.
Dude, I corrected myself, yeahman.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Come on.
You gotta know what's up.
Who's the RZA?
Come on, man.
Mig (03:02):
Come on, I didn't know who that CZA was, but I messed up
and mumble-mouthed that I am,and I corrected myself after I
said it, because after I got thelook from Rick and Lionel I
realized I said it wrong.
But I know who the RZA is.
Lano (03:17):
RZA and the SZA is S-Z-A.
I don't even know how youpronounce it like, unless you
hear itVA, that's what I'msaying.
Mig (03:24):
I kept hearing about this SZA.
I'm like, well, who the hell isthat?
So when I was watching thehalftime show, I was expecting
another rapper to come out, butno other rapper came out.
So I was like, well, who thehell is this SZA?
You know cause?
That's what I was thinking.
I'm thinking, oh, it's probablysomeone from Wu-Tang.
You know, I didn't know aboutCause.
I know about the RZA.
You got Method man and Red man.
Lano (03:46):
And people are coming back .
Method Man's doing some songs.
There's people coming back.
I'm on your side.
I'm on your side.
Mig (03:54):
But I corrected myself pretty quickly after I said it.
I'm not a boomer.
You freaking millennial, getyour panties out of your bunch
and go cry to your therapist orsome shit.
Lano (04:11):
Second call.
Mig (04:13):
I'm JX, you don't mess with me At 1434.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Rick says Nah, she featured in a song with him, and
all you hear is me goes.
Oh, what Like it all just madesense to him.
Nah, she featured in a songwith him, and all you hear is me
goes.
Oh, what Like it all just madesense to him.
Oh.
Lano (04:33):
I guess that's when you realize that he was like the
guest singer SZA.
That's like at the 1434 minutemark 14 minutes and 34 seconds.
Mig (04:42):
No, but I thought you guys said it was a chick that was
singing.
Lano (04:44):
No, it is a chick.
That's what he's saying.
Watch, I'll play it again.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
At 14.34.
Rick says nah, she featured ina song with them and all you
hear is me goes.
Oh, like it all just made sense.
Lano (05:04):
It sounds like.
Mig (05:05):
I kind of did Because I don't know who the hell she was.
That's when it all connected.
Lano (05:10):
That's the Bear Growl, Mickey's Bear Growl.
Mig (05:13):
It's called connecting the dots there, mister, once
everything lines up and makessense.
That's just a weird way mybrain processes shit.
Lano (05:27):
Call number three.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Hey, you guys, let's go get.
Let's go get that barbecue Fromthat cat.
I think he sells it by thebeach.
He does like the tomahawksteaks.
He does the ribs sausages.
I sent you guys a video on thata while ago.
We got to hit that spot, bro.
(05:50):
That's my vote.
Lano (05:52):
I don't remember that when he said the barbecue, I was
thinking of the guy in Englewoodthat had, like that fish plate
Remember the one I sent you?
But he said that he sent thisone.
But I got to go, he sent thisone.
Mig (06:01):
But I gotta go back in the text and look at it yeah, I
gotta look at it again, becauseyou guys said so much stuff, man
, I get it all confused andeverything.
We definitely gotta do anotherfood review, though.
When we do the food reviews,that that's usually when we do
our best shows we just gotta setthe the date up.
Lano (06:18):
I mean, we just gotta do it well yeah, just gotta do it.
Mig (06:20):
Just, it never gets done.
Lano (06:23):
Everybody's always Scattered here and there and
everywhere, and If you tell meoh, our cameras are going up.
If you tell me in advance, Icould do it, but like we're just
waiting on Mark's and Rick'sschedule, oh, Watch out for that
bus, guys Gonna get thrownunder it.
Mig (06:41):
That's what this guy loves doing.
You know what I'm talking about.
Throw thrown under it.
That's what this guy lovesdoing.
You know what I'm talking about?
Throwing under the bus, dude.
The one video I do rememberright now and since, we were
watching stuff, we were watchinga video on Adam Carolla touring
Malibu.
The fires and everything.
Everything got destroyed andI'm assuming he was in his house
(07:06):
Because it survived and it'scrazy how Everything on the
shore, like right on the sand,burned, but his house is like
Hundreds of feet Into the hills,didn't?
But Seeing all that coverageand everything again, it
reminded me of that video yousent of your sister dude that
(07:27):
she came out on the news.
Oh, right, right, right, youknow.
And, uh, we never gave her herprops or snaps on that dude.
Oh yeah, maybe we could post itsomewhere.
You know it's uh, michelle,good job, you know, for helping
that dude out.
You know there was um, aresident of Altadena.
That um had lost everything andhe was like, he was like a
(07:49):
construction guy, right, like ahandyman something like that
yeah so he he needed, like a bigvariety of tools that he says
he lost in the fire and um youknow my son lano, their their
uncle had passed away and Iremember lano mentioning his.
Their uncle passed away a whileback.
Lano (08:08):
So she inherited his house and all his tools.
She inherited a house and allhis tools.
Mig (08:13):
And so she offered him up, you know the guy if he wanted to
go see what she had and then hecould take like whatever he
needed.
I was like, oh, that's prettyawesome, dude, that's a pretty
good thing for her to do, youknow, especially like if you
don't know what to do with thetools or anything yeah, because
she's been cleaning it up andthen like she doesn't know what
to do with those tools.
Lano (08:32):
Yeah, you know.
Mig (08:32):
So that's good, but the one thing that got me man and
typical freaking lano being thejerk that he is, you know,
instead of just saying yeah, youknow, good job, sis, you know
way, way to go, you know way toway to help someone out, what is
this jerk saying?
The text message that he sendsme oh, I could use some of those
(08:53):
tools.
Well, I don't know, really,because homeboy just lost
everything, dude, and you'reworried about what?
Lano (09:02):
you could have used, because now, now I'm starting a
family, so like I'm starting mytool collection, please, for
stuff that I need.
I need for um to keep thehousehold in order but did it
burn down?
no, it didn't, but it waseverything but then, um, she,
yeah, I I kind of just peekedand see what what they had.
But, um, so my co was asking mebecause I had sent it to my
(09:25):
friends at work, and they'relike, did they pick up the tools
?
I was like I don't know.
So then I texted my sister.
This was actually yesterday.
I texted my sister and she'slike, oh no, the guy picked them
up that same day right afterthe interview.
They went over there and thenhe picked them up and then he's
(09:46):
actually, um, like helping outthe neighborhood, like like
board up their, um, theirproperty, like, I guess, like
board up their windows or securethe gates, so like looters
can't come in and all that stuff, pay it forward dude, but he's
been helping out um over therejust like secure the, the lots
and stuff, so I mean that endedup working out good well, good
job, michelle.
I'm proud of you she knew hisname and stuff and I think, um,
like they kept in touch andstuff, cause she's like oh, so
and so, yeah, yeah.
Mig (10:04):
Cause I know I know your brother Wouldn't have opened up
His heart that way.
So Good thing you were incharge Of those tools and not
him.
Lano (10:11):
Yeah, so she just Inherited the house A year
before and then the fires cameand we were like, oh man, but
luckily, like her street, thehouse is up there near altadena
also no, it's in altadena, yeahit's an altadena.
Oh wow, I didn't know that so,like when the fires, I was like,
oh, easy come, easy go.
I thought she lost it, but umno, she, it's a.
(10:32):
It skipped her street.
Mig (10:33):
You're a dick what an ass dude.
Lano (10:37):
I swear I was like with my sister's luck, like we lost it,
but um so, apparently like it'sa duplex, so my uncle was
living in the back renting outthe front okay and then, um, so
there was a couple that that, um, my sister's been been cleaning
out the back house and therewas a couple that lives in the
front and, um, so they have liketwo big um pitbulls, so because
(11:01):
there's a yard and everything.
So when they had to evacuate,um, I guess they didn't have
like places like family to go to, so they had to go like to the
hotels or whatever the gyms thatthey're offering housing.
But since they had the two dogs, they had to separate.
So then, my sister, now that,like, I guess the neighborhood's
open again, yeah.
(11:21):
She called them back oh, theneighborhood's open again.
Yeah, she called them back.
Oh, the neighborhood's openagain.
You guys could come back.
And the the lady told her likeoh, you know what?
Um, this time, like these past,whatever, I've been having time
to think about it and you knowI'm not gonna go back really,
but she's separating with theguy oh because they've been
living separate, because yeah,because of the dogs.
So, um, she was gonna find outif the guy was going to come
(11:43):
back, because she was about torant and all that stuff.
But then she said that he'scoming back, but the girl's not
coming back with him.
So that relationship didn'tsurvive, the fire didn't make it
crazy alright, call number 4.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I almost hung up.
I almost dropped off at 59.30.
Mig (12:06):
Once.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I found out that Lano didn't listen or hasn't watched
Gladiator and only watched theparts.
Man, that's a movie you gottawatch, like every year.
Every couple of years you putit on.
You know what I mean.
Remember who you are.
You're a fucking soldier.
You know what I mean.
Can't trust people, blah, blah,blah.
(12:33):
You know I mean kind of likeprepare you, but I don't know,
man, every time, lano, everytime, bro, I'm always rooting
for you, but then you send someweird ass music.
You're still stuck and youdon't even watch the right
movies, bro.
You know what you need, man.
You need some west watson inyour life.
That's what you need.
You need some Wes Watson inyour life, bro, man up.
Mig (12:49):
Alright, try to tell you, mark, but you don't want to
listen.
Lano (12:54):
So what's he saying on the last line?
What's he saying?
Mig (12:59):
Wes Watson or I don't know.
What did he say?
I don't know.
Lano (13:03):
I was reading it but I don't know.
The transcript Says Wes Watsonor watson or something I don't
know.
Mig (13:09):
What does that mean?
I don't know, might be authorof a book or something, or maybe
one of those motivational dudes, or like uh goggins, you know
well, I forgot to charge theselights in the studio so they
went outside of it's dark onYouTube.
But that's right.
It just means it's moreintimate.
Lano (13:27):
Um, well, if you notice the movies I haven't seen, the
thing about them Is they're longmovies, so I gotta set the time
Aside to watch them and then,now that I have the kids, I
gotta either stay up late orwake up early To watch these
movies.
And I was trying to seegladiators this weekend.
I was trying to see it becauseI wanted to see two so we could
talk about the show, and I justI just never got around to doing
(13:50):
it.
But, um, I'm trying to watch itbecause we made that list, that
group list.
I added gladiators on that listso we could see, and then no
one else added anything to thelist.
Did you get the list?
You open it?
Mig (14:01):
I, I saw it, but I didn't open it yeah, hasn't opened it.
Lano (14:03):
The only one who was interested about the list was
Mark, but it's on there.
I'm going to try to see it.
I'll try this week because Iwant to see it.
And then I really didn't knowthe story, but I was watching
the trailer and I was like, oh,I think I'm going to like this.
And now I'm curious about howpart 2 is going to do it.
It's the Like same era, rightor right after.
Mig (14:27):
I think it takes place, maybe like 15.
20 years after Okay.
It's all like Roman time, butyeah, it's still the same era
and everything.
Lano (14:38):
But I am going to see it Because that's a movie that
everybody has Like one of theirtop like five movies.
Yeah, it is dude.
Mig (14:44):
But that one like Godfather I haven't seen, because that's
a movie that everybody has asone of their top five movies.
Lano (14:47):
Yeah, it is dude, I mean, but that one like Godfather I
haven't seen Because those arejust long movies.
It's just like to set aside.
Mig (14:51):
How about?
Lano (14:52):
Three hours.
Mig (14:53):
How about A man on Fire?
Have you seen A man on Fire?
Lano (14:55):
No, I've seen that one yeah.
Mig (14:56):
Yeah.
Lano (14:57):
That's the one with Dakota Fanning right.
Mig (14:59):
The that one's good dude, that one.
Lano (15:01):
I've seen that one multiple times, I think we
talked about it last year andthen I went and saw that one
again.
Mig (15:12):
That one really like tugs at your heart, dude, because
that little girl dude she justmakes you like fall in love with
her dude, like when they findout that she was possibly dead.
Right, you're kind of like man.
It's like you get so pissed offand shit.
Lano (15:23):
It's all like the trafficking and stuff right,
yeah.
Child trafficking.
Mig (15:26):
Well, not trafficking Back when the kidnapping.
Lano (15:29):
Oh, kidnapping Because they're in Mexico.
Right, they're in Mexico.
They go to private school.
Mig (15:34):
So during that time when they would target rich people or
tourists or Americans andkidnap them for ransom?
Lano (15:42):
Yeah, Now One of my favorite Actors, kevin Costner,
denzel Washington.
I was thinking like these arelike guys I would like to get a
movie, but they might all be inthat whole Hollywood scandal.
(16:03):
So that's what's worrying aboutme.
Mig (16:05):
I mean it's gonna be hard, dude.
I mean it's like the wholething.
You started hearing Rumorsabout Tom Hanks and everything.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And more and more it's starting to turn out to be
true.
Mig (16:18):
That's why, to me dude, I've never Really been like
Starstruck or Followed people orodd or yeah?
You know followed people.
Got odd, or yeah?
Or you know followed people ordirectors or got in, so invested
, you know, and then crushedafterwards.
It's like how someone you knowit's like like, say, someone
kind of like a favorite actor,whatever, and they pass away you
(16:41):
know.
It's like you never met him oranything.
But you're right there in tears, bawling dude, like it feels
your your close relative, youknow.
Lano (16:50):
Like when Michael Jackson passed away.
People go crazy.
Shit like that dude I'll neverunderstand.
Dude, it's like.
Mig (16:54):
I don't know who the hell I said.
The only person I said that Iwould possibly be that broken up
over that I've never met is VinScully, but only because of
that personal connection.
You know that you make withthem over the radio, hearing
them call the games.
And he personalized it so much.
(17:16):
You know that he made you feellike you were there with them
Watching the games.
Lano (17:21):
I remember, like Bobby, just hearing stories, a Dodger
game in the background.
Mig (17:25):
You know, eating, drinking some beer Dude, that was the
best and I think, you know, Ithink that's why I kind of
dropped off.
Lano (17:34):
Mm-hmm.
Mig (17:35):
From being like such a diehard Dodger fan that I was.
Lano (17:39):
Mm-hmm.
Mig (17:39):
It's like because, to me, to watch a game at home with
Vince Scully or listen to himhear him on the radio, it was
everything.
Lano (17:48):
And I feel that way with the Lakers and Chick Hearns.
And that's why, when he left, Ikind of like stopped listening
or following.
Mig (17:55):
You know, and even though I'm like I'm a fan of baseball,
I couldn't watch other teams orcoverage of other teams, because
the announcing just sucked.
Like it wasn't Vince Scully,you know, and I just I needed to
hear him and his play by playand his stories and Just
everything, dude.
I mean the guy knew how to doit, you know.
(18:19):
And he just made it Seem soEffortless Like every call Was
like the perfect call.
Yeah.
Lano (18:27):
Like almost every situation, every home, home run
or Whatever it was.
Mig (18:31):
He knew when to talk and when not to talk.
You know, it's like big, bigthing, like With everything to
do with Kirk Gibson's big homerun.
He could have been yapping awayThrough all that, but he's like
.
I think at one point he hadsaid Just listen, I'm gonna let,
I'm gonna stop talking rightnow so you can hear this crowd.
(18:52):
You know, and just let it go.
You know, or his Less is more.
Yeah, and then, like his famousquotes, dude, you know the Kirk
Gibson home run In the year Ofthe Improbable, the impossible
happens.
Lano (19:10):
Right.
Mig (19:12):
That's iconic man.
Lano (19:15):
That wasn't written down.
That's off the top of.
Mig (19:17):
When Valenzuela, I think, threw his no hitter or his
perfect game.
You know, it's like I'm sureright now some idiot out there
Is gonna say that it wasoffensive.
You know, it's like I'm sureright now some idiot out there
is going to say that it wasoffensive, you know, and he was
being racist when he said it.
Lano (19:34):
I don't remember what he said.
What did he say?
Mig (19:35):
Well, he said, if you have a sombrero, throw it in the air.
Lano (19:38):
Oh, like to celebrate?
No, but that's.
He was talking to the people,but that's what I'm saying, you
know.
Mig (19:55):
And I'm sure right now there'll be some idiot out there
that'll find that offensive,you know, just because they need
to find something to get theirpanties in a bunch over.
You know, but the dude knew howto call it man, you know, it
was like I just I just lovedhearing like his stories.
You know, it's like throughoutthe game, dude, he'd be telling
his stories, you know, and hereand there it'd be like
two-on-one, you know, or youknow, here comes the one-one
(20:17):
pitch, you know.
Lano (20:19):
So when I was younger I used to work at a market and the
logo of the market I'm notgoing to say the name, but it
had like like a little, like youknow, the Mexican Taking his
break, like under a cactus, likewith the sombrero, like you
know, covering his face.
That was the logo.
And then At the time I wasworking At the corporate office
and we received Like a letterLike saying Remove it, it's
(20:42):
offensive and stuff.
But me, being Mexican, I neverthought that was offensive, like
that's what, like.
Mig (20:46):
That's what I'm saying.
You see that everywhere.
Lano (20:48):
You see that like Speedy Gonzalez, his cousin Slowpoke
Gonzalez, whatever, like.
Those are just characters Inever like.
Took it personally Like I don'tknow how you feel about that.
Mig (20:59):
No, it's dumb dude, I mean it's dumb what people are
offended by you.
You know it's like you can'tJust be so delicate over nothing
.
You know it's like this worldwould be a lot better place If
people would be able to handlemore and just laugh shit off.
Lano (21:21):
Right.
Mig (21:22):
You know, it's like um.
I was watching um A clip theother day Of Of Four actors.
You know cause?
Right now it's like Supposed tobe Black History Month and they
were supposed to be making abig deal about it.
Lano (21:40):
Well.
Mig (21:41):
Morgan Freeman dude said it the best.
He's being interviewed bywhat's his name?
Old white dude, I forget whathis name was, but he had asked
him like what?
What he, what he thought abouta black history month or
whatever.
And you know, margaret freemanwas like well, what I think
(22:02):
about what he's like?
Do you think it's you knowright that we should be
celebrating whatever he's likehe's like?
Do you think it's you knowright that we should be
celebrating or whatever he'slike?
No, and the guy was like whoa,like why?
You know it's like you're goingto relegate my history to just
one month.
Lano (22:15):
Right.
Mig (22:15):
Which has been my point exactly, you know.
It's like how are you going toput just one month for, like,
forget about black, you know,for any race, you know, and
that's the point that he broughtup.
Also, he's like when is it yourmonth?
And he's like, oh well, I'mjewish.
He's like okay, so when is thejewish history month?
(22:35):
He's like, oh, we don't haveone, he's like, but I don't want
one.
And morgan freeman's like Idon't want one either right
right.
You know, it's like when youlook at me, you shouldn't see
color, you should just see anAmerican, and everything that I
am and everything that camebefore me is American history.
(22:56):
It shouldn't be black history.
It shouldn't be Hispanichistory, it shouldn't be Chinese
American history.
It shouldn't be this, that,whatever, no, we're in America,
it's American history Period'tbe this that.
Whatever, no, we're in America,it's American history Period.
That's it, no, no other thing.
Cause when?
If people would just startseeing Everybody like that and
(23:22):
stop All this stupid Um identitypolitics, the world would be
way better.
All this stupid Identitypolitics, the world would be way
better.
Lano (23:33):
Because what is Hispanic Is that September, like because
of Al Grito, like theindependence or Like I don't
know, like what?
No, like they just picked thatmonth.
Mig (23:42):
No, and that's the other thing.
No, the only, the only monththey they officially relegate Is
Black History.
Yeah, february Right.
No, the only.
Month they officially Relegateis black history, february Right
, and I think it's Bullshit,it's insulting.
You know, it's like what youthink we're, you know we're.
So what's the word I'm lookingfor?
(24:05):
You see, for me it.
It's offensive Because evenaffirmative action.
I find affirmative actionoffensive, because if you need
affirmative action to get a jobor to get into a college.
Lano (24:21):
It should be merit-based, which is the best person for the
job.
Mig (24:25):
Affirmative action is just telling me that because of your
skin color or because of yourcultural background, or because
of this or that, you know it'slike we know you're not going to
be smart enough to get in, solet's do a special little
entrance for you to get in.
If you put it like that, dude,to people, and if they see it
(24:47):
that way, how offensive is thatshit right, why doesn't that
piss you off that?
To me that that's what thataffirmative action is the
backdoor.
Lano (24:58):
They're letting you in like yeah if, if they're not
getting in, then that thatculture or race is gonna like
work harder to get in you'regonna, they're gonna, you're
gonna build up like you know thestrain.
They're gonna be deserving tobe there.
Yeah, like they earned it, butuh, no.
I've been on the opposite sideof affirmative action lots of
times and you know, I think Ithink it's bullshit.
Mig (25:19):
I think just people need to just stop seeing color and race
and everything and just live asAmericans, man, and just be
proud of this great country, andyou can say all you want that
it's racist.
But all I know is that we'vealready had a black president
(25:41):
that was in there for eightyears.
He made the country worsebecause he truly divided it Into
black against white, richagainst poor, you know.
But he was so charismatic andsuch a snake oil salesman that
he had everybody in a trance,you know.
(26:02):
But whatever.
Lano (26:04):
No, at the time, I mean, I think you said it too, but like
he spoke well, like remember,yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I,
I think you said it too, butlike he spoke well, like
remember we were all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's what.
Mig (26:12):
I'm saying you know it's like, it's like as long as it's
like Newsome.
Newsome's another one dude.
He's a slick Talker, he's a conman.
You know it's like he couldtalk his way Into anything.
But does that mean he's goodfor us?
No, cause he's running.
He's ran California To theground for the past six years or
(26:33):
whatever.
It was like he already.
Cause of him, they burned downthe Palisades and Malibu and
Altadena.
It's all on him.
So Anyways, I don't want to getoff on a political ramp, but
Well, last weekend.
Lano (26:53):
So MLS LAC had their opening day.
On Saturday, ralph, he invitedme over to the game.
I couldn't make it becausewe're celebrating with the
in-laws on.
Ellie's birthday, but then itwas a bobblehead day, so the
in-laws ended up.
They all wanted to go to thegame, so we ended up going to
the game and I um ellie'sbirthday.
But then, there, it was abobblehead day, so, um, the
in-laws ended up.
They all wanted to go to thegame, so we ended up going the
game, and I saw ralphie downthere too oh cool he was telling
(27:15):
me that, um that the thewrestling season finished, so so
he has time.
He wants to do an interview howdid his daughter do?
Um fourth place, all city ohnice fourth place for her, for
her weight division, which is,which was what she did last year
.
She was fourth place, so shedidn't make the state term.
I guess the top three makestate, but she was Fourth place.
(27:35):
And then he just says you know,in the off season she needed to
.
You know, like, work out, dosomething like weight lifting,
and she took the off season off,but he said the the second year
around.
You know, everybody came backstronger and bigger.
So that's why.
But um, she noticed it and Iguess um she's gonna work harder
(27:56):
, and this and that.
But we're just talking about how, um, the kids, sports are like
just so, so expensive.
You're saying that, um, theyhad to do a fundraiser and then
the second daughter's in drillteam and he said, that's a set
to join drill team, is this 800bucks?
Wow, it's for I don't know,their, their equipment, all this
stuff and the wrestling.
(28:16):
Um, they had the funders thatare raised 500.
And then that's just like toget in the door and then the
training, the practice, all thatstuff adds up.
But, um, he says again hisweekends, um, again, cause that
took over their life.
Mig (28:26):
For the whole wrestling scene.
No, that's good man.
I mean it's good that he'sthere for his daughters, you
know, and supporting them inwhat they want to do.
Lano (28:34):
So I was at the game, and then they sell cards at the game
soccer cards.
Mig (28:39):
Did you buy any?
Lano (28:40):
I didn't buy any.
I was tempted, but they havethe small boxes.
What were the small boxes?
I was going to get the theprice, but I was like, do you
think everything's just likerandom?
Like, let's say, like there'llbe more hot cards at the game or
or um cities, because that bigum paul skeens car like was
picked up in la, it wasn'tpicked up like in yeah, like is
(29:00):
it really random where theydon't know where the shipments
go?
Mig (29:04):
I'm not sure, dude.
I mean, I want to say I'mhoping that, yes, it is random,
but who knows, who knows.
What I can tell you, though, isthat they did realize that,
with so much, how big the retailmarket is Like selling at the
(29:26):
big box stores.
And everything that they coulddrive their product a lot better
if they put more better hits inthe retail stuff, which is
what's been kind of happeninglately, because I've been buying
.
That's the breaker box rightit's whatever you find, that
target, or walmart oh, that'sthe retail box.
(29:48):
That's the retail box, yeah.
So yeah, that's the box theyhad at the game, the retail box.
Yeah, because they call themeither blasters or hanger packs
you know, because they hang fromthe shelf.
Lano (29:58):
Okay.
Mig (29:59):
You know so, and those usually always tended to just be
base cards.
Like if you wanted to completea set.
So you really never got likeany good hits in it.
But they're kind of changingthat, they're turning that
around.
Well, they did turn it aroundand now it's possible to get
something good out of those.
(30:20):
That's why you never find themyeah that's why you go to
walmart you go.
Lano (30:24):
They never have them.
Mig (30:25):
Target you want to target and the shelves are always empty
.
It it's like all the good stuffdisappears and they leave the
junk behind.
I don't want to say thatYu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon are junk,
because a lot of that stuff isreally valuable also, but they
obviously know which ones topick up and which ones not to.
You know, like a lot of thecollege products they leave
(30:47):
behind because those aren'treally all that valuable.
You know that a lot of collegeproducts they leave behind
because those aren't really allthat valuable.
You know that would besomething that you want, like if
you want to put your ownpersonal collection.
Lano (30:56):
You go to that school, you know that player or something
whatever.
Mig (30:58):
You know, but I've been wanting to Because I saw Tops
Brought back my favorite set ofall time Tops Chromebook
Football.
Lano (31:13):
So they didn't have that for a while.
Mig (31:15):
They didn't have it for like decades Because they lost
the licensing, so they didn'tthink it would Fly If they Put
out a product unlicensed do theyhave a superstar because they
have a mls, like there's a topschrome and then top superstar.
So those are just completelydifferent sets like they don't
connect or honestly, dude, youwould have to go on to the tops
(31:39):
website to see, like thebreakdowns of what they have and
what they don't.
Cause the MLS.
I'm not really familiar with itso.
I wouldn't know how it breaksdown, you know.
But I know With Topps, you knowlike, especially with baseball,
they have what's called thevery first product that comes
out for them on the baseballseason Would be Topps Series 1
(32:05):
and that's just like basic,basic cardboard with like good
stuff sprinkled in, and then youknow, you get like series two
and then you get is that the onewhere everybody waits for, like
the with the trades and and therookies, or something like that
.
Like that that would be seriestwo yeah, there's two you know,
and then like the tops chrome,you know, and then the update is
one with all the the rookiesand everything because what's
(32:26):
after chrome?
I saw something like um well,dude, the tops have so much
stuff for baseball, it's likethey got like stones or like
emerald or something, or yeah,they got the regular.
They got the regular tops.
You know series one, series two, then they got the tops chrome.
Lano (32:41):
They got tops chrome sapphire sapphire, that's the
one, because it's also soccersapphires.
But I'm like what is this?
Mig (32:46):
the whole nother set yeah, then they got, uh, they got
throwback sets like uh allen andginter, which those were fun to
, those were fun to collect.
Um, they got like heritage.
You know they got tribute, youknow they got a bunch of stuff.
Lano (33:02):
I mean it's, it's because then, like on youtube, we saw
that one where it was like, um,just all about Otani.
It was like a set of Otani,there's one yeah.
Mig (33:13):
Cause, uh cause of his 50, 50.
Lano (33:15):
Right, it was just like a whole set, like by packs of
Otani and you have to likecollect them or something.
Mig (33:20):
Yeah, so they'll.
They'll do stuff like that.
You know, you just gotta keepup with it.
You know and know what what'sout there and what's available
and what they're putting outthere.
It's like I'm sure once anotherplayer comes along and does
something incredible like that,they'll do it to them, you know
what would be for a tiny?
Lano (33:42):
what would be like 20 wins , 20 home runs, 20?
What would be the next bigthing?
Or 2020, I don't know, Causenow he's gonna be pitching again
.
Mig (33:53):
Yeah, probably something with pitching.
Lano (33:54):
Yeah, like I mean he won't get like 50 Wins, that's like a
lot of wins, nah, but you weretelling me Before the show you
started you had a card story.
Mig (34:08):
So Back during COVID I started.
When I started collecting again, I got bit by the bug again and
started collecting again.
I bought this one product Forfootball called Leaf Limited and
it's a little more like higherend product.
You know, it's about um, about$120 a pack and only like seven
(34:34):
cards come in the pack, so it'sa little pricey, you know, and
you take a chance and, um, Ipulled what's, uh, what they
call a redemption, which is acard that wasn't ready At the
time of production or packing.
But they put this.
Lano (34:50):
Like an IOU kind of thing, an IOU, so they put that in
there Like a ticket to getsomething Right.
Mig (34:55):
So with the claim code and everything.
So you go on their website, youput in the claim code and you
put in the claim and youraddress and everything and
Hopefully, when the card's ready, they send it to you.
Lano (35:06):
Oh, so that's how it works .
I thought you just had to mailin blind.
You have to like scratch a codeoff or type in a code.
Yeah, and so you do that andthey take all your info and
everything and you wait, youknow, so you just type in the
code, you don't actually sendanything in, or you do send the
card in the redemption cardBefore.
Mig (35:23):
So you don't actually send anything in, or you do send the
card in the redemption cardbefore you would send the you
would mail it in.
Okay, but now that everything'sdone online, now you just enter
a code on their website.
Lano (35:31):
Okay, that seems a little safer.
Mig (35:32):
Yeah, so, um, so I did that , you know, and, um, I I checked
out to see what the card wasthat I was supposed to receive
and it was a Troy Aikmanautograph, you know, but it was
supposed to be a one-on-one, youknow.
So it's a pretty ultra-rarecard, you know.
It's supposed to be like alittle booklet card, Dallas,
that's how he's played for us,yeah, dallas Cowboys.
(35:54):
Well, actually it was a draftday.
Oh, so it might have been aUCLA card.
Lano (35:58):
Okay.
Mig (36:05):
A UCLA card with him, um, with his autograph, and, I'm
assuming, a piece of jersey,because there's a little booklet
that opens up.
You know, and um, if, that wouldhave been nice if you ever look
up cards and look up bookletcards, you can see like what I'm
talking about.
You know it's like super thick,it's like two super thick cards
put together like a little book.
You know it opens up, itunfolds, know it opens up, it
(36:31):
unfolds.
So typically, I mean before youwould wait maybe up to a year,
maybe year and some monthsbefore they fulfilled your, your
card.
You know that it wouldn't takethem that long to have it done
and send out to you.
Now the other option they giveyou is, if they can't Get the
card done for whatever reason,they Offer you the option of a
(36:51):
replacement.
Lano (36:53):
So that means like they couldn't get the signature or
the jersey or whatever.
Mig (36:58):
I'm assuming they couldn't get the signature.
But I've seen a bunch of Otherproducts After that year that
he's autographed, and so I don'tknow, I don't know what the
deal was.
So what they do is, you know,if you ask for a replacement,
then they won't bother with thatanymore and they'll send you
(37:21):
out a replacement, hopefully ofequal or better value anymore,
and they'll send you out areplacement, hopefully of equal
or better value.
Well, five years later, fiveyears, five years, dude, and in
between that I've been calling,I've been writing, emailing.
Emails have been ignored.
Lano (37:38):
You know, it wasn't until I called and actually got
someone on the phone so you goto your, your website, the
account that shows pending, oryeah, or status in progress or
whatever.
Mig (37:48):
You know.
So, and it's the first timeI've ever had this problem.
It's like I've redeemed a bunchof cards and I've gotten them,
no problem, got replacements,you know, whatever.
But this first time, you know,it's like, of course, when it's
gonna be like a really good card, you know I'm not gonna get it
right.
So so I finally, you know, madea, called them a couple times
(38:10):
and started barking at them.
You know it's like dude, it'slike where am I gonna get my
freaking card, my redemption?
You know it's already been fiveyears this is like support.
Yeah, it's a part, yeah sothey're like oh, you know, it's
like we, we got you in linealready.
You know you're in line to getyour replacement.
Just please be patient, orwhatever.
Lano (38:28):
No, but five years, that's like already ridiculous.
Mig (38:30):
Yeah, yeah.
So this past weekend I didn'tcheck my email until Sunday
morning and I saw that I got anemail from Panini.
You know the manufacturer.
And I saw that I got an emailfrom Panini you know the
manufacturer and it said that myreplacement is on its way and
(38:53):
they provided me a trackingnumber and I checked the
tracking number and it showed itwas going to get there
yesterday, monday.
Lano (38:58):
I was like, oh shit, cool Is this like UPS, or how does it
come?
Mig (39:02):
Yeah, it came UPS Okay.
So I was just hoping it'd getthere early enough before I left
for work, because otherwise itneeded to be signed for oh there
wouldn't be nobody signed.
You know, they just leave alittle post-it, then I gotta go
back to the next day or whatever.
Lano (39:19):
That's just like a warehouse.
Mig (39:20):
Yeah, I got that anticipation, you know, and I'm
like damn man.
So.
But you know, the good thing isI heard the dogs barking like
crazy, so I'm like, oh shit,that's probably him you know, so
I went out there, got my Cardsand everything, but the thing is
, on the email I read that thereplacement they were sending me
Were five packs Of uh mosaic2023 Mosaic football.
Lano (39:48):
Oh, 2023, that's the.
That was the same year of thepack, the Troy Rickman.
2023 or no?
Mig (39:54):
No, no, the one I was supposed to get Was a 2020, so
they just, you know, I guess,send me these Random packs 2023,
and they, they also put a onewhite box and I was like white
box and I never heard of thatyou know, I was like I don't
know what a white box is NFLwhite box NFL white box.
Lano (40:16):
But they do them for all their products.
Mig (40:18):
So they'll do a baseball one.
They have basketballs, you know, they got all of them.
So I started doing a littleinvestigating, I started
checking out videos on youtubeand, yeah, you know, come to
find out that that white boxthey send the card.
It's a guarantee to beone-on-one, but what player you
(40:40):
get, who knows, you know?
And whether it be a jersey card, whether it be an autograph,
that box is 101?
.
Lano (40:46):
It's just one card and one box, one card, not a pack.
One card.
Mig (40:50):
No one card.
Lano (40:51):
Uh-huh.
Mig (40:52):
And it's marked 101.
So I'm like, okay, well, atleast I got that going for me.
You know it's going to be thesame thing.
You know they're replacing the101 with the 101.
Lano (41:01):
So, um, Normally Like how much does the white box Buy, or
you can't buy it.
Oh, you can't buy it, okay.
Mig (41:06):
They send them only as a as a redemption replacement.
Lano (41:11):
Oh, that's a special Okay.
Mig (41:12):
Yeah.
So you can't, you can't just goand Buy them.
I mean, people are signing themOn eBay, still sealed, because
they sent them to you Sealed.
So as long as you don't Breakthat seal, you can still sell
them.
Lano (41:23):
Uh huh.
Mig (41:25):
You know and um.
Lano (41:26):
Did that cross your mind?
Mig (41:27):
No, For like two seconds.
So um, so I got my packs andturns out like when I got the
packs, you know I got everything, I opened it up and when I had,
when I had seen um Videos onYouTube, you know it showed that
it comes encased with theirsticker sealing, you know, to
(41:50):
make sure it doesn't gettampered with.
Lano (41:52):
Yeah, because I've seen some people they open a box and
like they're already in cases.
Mig (41:56):
Yeah, and they have like a sticker on them to make sure
that they haven't been messedwith.
So the packs that I got wereactually what they call a
sparkle packs.
So these are like special packsthat are not in circulation
either.
You know, it's like you got toget them through like promotions
or stuff like that.
So I opened those up first andin each of those sparkle packs
(42:20):
there was four cards, I believeFour or five cards.
Nothing really good came out ofthose.
It like some some average stuffcame out, okay stuff, you know,
but nothing really likespectacular but they have some
value, right.
Lano (42:35):
They're not just like yeah , yeah, random.
I mean I got.
Mig (42:37):
I got one card.
It was a green sparkle numberto like eight, so it was really
low numbered, okay, so thatone's probably worth about 50,
60 bucks, you know.
But it wasn't like no big name.
Like, say, that same card wouldhave been like a Mahomes or a
Josh Allen or you know one ofthe top rookies or some shit.
Then that shit would have beena crazy freaking card.
(43:01):
You know we're talkingthousands of dollars, right?
So nothing, nothing, nothingspectacular came out of those
packs that's not the white boxyet, that's just the cart.
So then so, and this whole timewhen, when they're saying I read
that they're gonna send me theredemption, I was thinking
should I save it for the showand open this stuff on the show?
But as soon as I got it I waslike I can't wait, man, I gotta,
(43:27):
I gotta see what's in here.
Lano (43:29):
That could have made us go viral, because it could have
been big oh, maybe I mean if ithad been a bigger player.
Mig (43:34):
I mean it was a good card and a pretty big card, but if it
was a bigger player, like okay.
Lano (43:42):
Well, how big is this white box?
Because it's only one card.
Mig (43:45):
It's small, it's oh okay just like the size of a little
jewelry box, like, say,something you would give a
necklace in all, right all right, so, um, so I go to open up the
white box and of course I'mopening it up slowly and I see
that it's out of one of theirhigh-end.
Lano (44:04):
It's in a case or no.
Mig (44:05):
It's in a case, but the set that it came from is from their
ultra-premium, high-end setswhich you're talking about.
These sets, if you look them up, if you look up like Impeccable
, if you look up Flawless, ifyou look up National Treasures,
(44:26):
look up national treasures,these are they're literally like
suitcases or little briefcasesand maybe only like six or eight
cards come in them, but they'relike super premium cards and
you know they got like rarestuff on them and you know the
the cases run four, five, sixthousand dollars each I think I
(44:49):
see one of those like an openingof those.
Yeah, so, um, I go to open itand I see that it's out of a
flawless set and already I'mgetting excited because I'm like
shit, that's like a yeah,thousand dollars?
Yeah, there's no there's no wayI would ever get my hands on a
card like this, you know cause?
I'm just not going to pay$7,000 for a, for a freaking
(45:11):
pack.
So then I started.
I keep going down and it's adamn uh.
John Alway autograph.
Lano (45:18):
Oh yeah.
I'm a hall of famer John.
Mig (45:20):
Alway.
Yeah, john Alway Local kidGranada.
Hills.
So then I started, I startedlooking up the value of it and
it's hard to tell the valuebecause 101 cards, you know you
got no reference.
Lano (45:30):
Yeah.
Mig (45:31):
It's the only one that exists.
Lano (45:32):
What year set it?
Was it from?
Mig (45:34):
It was from 2021, no 20.
Was it 20 2021?
Yeah, 2021, flawless and um.
So I looked up other Comparableor something Comparable 101
cards from the same set but likedifferent looking card and
(45:55):
they're really not sellinganything below $1,000, dude.
So I was like, all right, dude,I got a pretty damn good hit
here.
Lano (46:03):
I mean John Elway.
I think he's a top fivequarterback in anybody's list,
Right?
Mig (46:09):
Yeah, I mean he's still super popular with Broncos fans.
Lano (46:14):
Is he a GM or no?
I don't know if he still is.
Mig (46:17):
The president or something, something like that.
Yeah, he's still involved, Ithink uh.
No, john Lynch was, uh, theNiners.
Lano (46:25):
Niners.
Mig (46:25):
Niners, yeah, niners, yeah.
So I think he's the presidentof operations or something for
the Broncos.
Lano (46:31):
Damn it, Broncos.
Mig (46:32):
Yeah, but he's still big time dude.
And now I really want to go toa card show and try to unload
some of my high-end stuff dude,because eBay just straight rips
you off dude.
Lano (46:43):
Did you tell your friends about it, that car shop in
monrovia or no?
Mig (46:47):
I haven't been there, oh yeah, and I want to go because,
I'm telling you, they releasedtops chrome football and I went
on their website to see how muchit's selling for, because I've
always loved tops chrome,because it's affordable, you
know, and I was expecting to seethat maybe they're selling
their boxes for like maybe 200,250 or so, and I jumped on their
(47:10):
dude and they're signing up forlike 489.
Oh, are you guys kidding me,man?
Lano (47:16):
well, that's why I'm in soccer because you get them
around 100 bucks.
My wife said we were buying.
My wife saw she gave me a setfor valentine's day a box and it
was like 85.
She said she got it for.
Mig (47:26):
And I've been Like.
I've been on YouTube dudeSeeing what people are pulling
Out of that Topps Chrome dudeand, oh man, I want to bite the
bullet so hard To just go getone.
Lano (47:35):
No Cause.
I know it's about soccer.
I don't know football.
It's not every player right,it's just like.
Mig (47:41):
No.
Lano (47:41):
Random, like not even starters right, just random
people yeah, it's not.
Mig (47:45):
It's not like baseball used to be where, even like the like
every single player had no nameguys.
Yeah, yeah it's like now.
It's like they gotta be atleast stars is that the way it
is now at?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
least like starters yeah, okay you know.
Mig (48:02):
So you gotta have like some type of star status.
You know, if you don't havesome type of star status, or
reckon what's the word NotorietyRight?
Lano (48:17):
You know the Instagram age .
You have to be a star, you haveto know something Social media.
Mig (48:23):
So if you don't have like a following or whatever, more
than likely they're not gonnamake a card out of you.
You know, like, say um, likewho on the dodgers well, it
could be.
Lano (48:40):
I mean, I was gonna say, kiki, he has a card Like he's a
shortstop, the utility man, theyou know, the pitch hater or
something I don't know.
Mig (48:50):
Who's a backup catcher?
Lano (48:53):
I don't even know.
Mig (48:54):
Barnes.
Lano (48:55):
Oh.
Mig (48:56):
So like there's not going to be a Barnes card made, you
know, because he's just a backupcatcher and he rarely plays- so
there's some players that neverget a rookie card unless
they're like a draft pick or astar.
Yeah.
Lano (49:10):
Okay, that's crazy.
I mean your story kind of soundslike.
I saw this YouTube video wherethis guy was on the Nintendo 64.
He wanted to get every singlecolor controller that they had.
So I didn't think it was likehe had the collection on the
wall, the colors, but like therewas one he was missing and it
was like the gold controller.
And I was like the goldcontroller was only given away
(49:34):
from like some guy that likebeat the game in some convention
or something like that, Like itwas the grand prize.
Oh, yeah.
It was like some goldencontroller that the guy had to
win the the event at the showand then he was given by
nintendo this golden controllerthat was like a 101 oh crazy and
then he finds the guy that hasit and ends up like getting it,
(49:54):
but like yeah like you say,those are like.
Like you said, there's cards orkits that are not in
circulation that you have tolike yeah go to some convention
or some show, or which adds toits reality.
Mig (50:04):
Party or something which adds to it's rarity, you know,
because it's like who's to saythat the card that wasn't sent
to me, you know that I wassupposed to pull If that's going
to be sent to someone elseafter, right, you know.
So it's like this one that theysent me, you know, probably
(50:25):
Didn't get ready or didn't getclaimed At the time because they
put they put an expiration date.
Lano (50:33):
Oh, you have to put in the code or call the number.
Mig (50:35):
Yeah, they usually give it like a two year, a two year
Grace period.
Lano (50:42):
That's probably two years for someone To find it, pull it
or whatever.
Mig (50:45):
To pull it or whatever you know, but say I go right now and
I go buy a 2020 pack.
It's already five years laterand I pull a redemption.
You know they might not have itanymore.
It's like you can still send itin and they'll send you
something you know, but umancesare If it didn't get claimed.
Lano (51:07):
So people don't sell redemption cards.
Mig (51:09):
Yeah, I've sold them before .
Lano (51:12):
Oh, if you Just didn't want it, so you sold it?
Or was it a player or a cardyou weren't interested in?
Or just to make a buck?
Mig (51:19):
Just to make money.
You know, it was probably likesome rookie or something that I
didn't think was going to panout.
So I'm like, maybe get what Ican while I can.
You know you, just you don't,you don't scratch off the code
or anything.
Lano (51:33):
Oh.
Mig (51:33):
You know, or some of them have like QR codes on them or
something, just like when youput it up for Like on online to
sell, you cover up that barcode.
Lano (51:44):
Or the QR code, like gift cards.
It's like like gift cards.
It'll be like a sticker on thetop covering there, like a
scratcher sticker or no kind oflike something yeah, well, I I
now, now that you already openedit, like you think it would
have been a good um white boxopen up on there.
I mean I think john elway wouldhave been like oh, wow, yeah, I
mean it's a beautiful card.
Mig (52:05):
Dude, the card's beautiful.
You know that that ticket wouldhave probably been good,
wouldn't have been like the giveus some rain that box that we
open the baseball that would becool.
Lano (52:17):
I do want to do another.
Um, I mean I'm not going topitch in for that flawless box,
but I do I do want to do anotherwhere we all pitch in another
card break.
The Skeen Sonar already pickedit, so I don't know what's out
there, what's hot, but yeah,like something we know, like
football or something that wouldbe good Like a hot card.
Mig (52:39):
Yeah, I'm telling you, one of these days, dude, a bug is
going to go up my ass and I'mgoing to go buy one of those
boxes of Topps Chrome dude.
I might have to bring it in andopen it right here.
Lano (52:52):
All right, I feel like this is a good spot to wrap it
up.
Mig (52:56):
Hope we didn't bore you people We'll have Rick next week
, hopefully.
Nerding out a little bit overcards and collecting.
That's what we do.
Lano (53:09):
What we do to do what else is out there?
I'm collecting records, butnothing crazy.
Mig (53:15):
There's a lot out there, dude.
You'd be surprised.
Lano (53:19):
When's the last time you've been to Frankincense?
Mig (53:21):
I haven't been there forever.
Lano (53:23):
I need to go there though.
Mig (53:24):
Me, me too, but for right now, keep on drifting, yo Peace.
Welcome back to the Drifting on Arroyo podcast.
This is Mig, this is Lano andno rk67.
Oh so I guess I should just bestaring into the camera then as
I speak because, otherwise Igotta got a lot on my back, so
that's not really gonna work.
Lano (00:28):
He had us waiting 30 minutes.
I'm on the way, I'm on the way.
And then he never showed up.
He was having trouble turninghis computer on or something.
Mig (00:39):
I think it's more technical difficulties than that, but I'm
pretty sure he'll chew your assout when he sees you.
Lano (00:46):
So we're trying to start another streak.
So, um, this is, I guess, umEpisode 2 of our streak, to keep
it going, and Rick alreadybroke it.
Mig (00:55):
So Episode 2, after the the caca episodes.
Lano (01:00):
Yeah, and then um Did Ricky?
You don't know if he's he's onthat 75-day streak.
I know he broke it last week,but is he back on it, ready for
the marathon?
Mig (01:10):
I'm pretty sure he stayed on it, right.
I think he just fell off thewagon a little bit.
That one time.
I don't think he got off of it,though He'll still be on it.
Lano (01:23):
Well, um, luckily, we um we mentioned the phone number,
cause we got some calls.
Mig (01:31):
Oh, people called.
Lano (01:32):
People called so.
Mig (01:34):
Are they calling about the fires or the winds, or?
Lano (01:37):
Um calling about us.
Mig (01:38):
How much we suck.
Lano (01:40):
Calling about us.
Let me see if I can Get it onthe.
Mig (01:46):
On the air they're ripping us a new one.
Lano (01:51):
Oh, it's a different window.
Alright, so let me see.
Alright, so this is the phonecall.
Let me see if I got this set upcorrectly.
Mig (02:11):
Here we go and that hotline number again.
Lano (02:13):
Oh yeah, read the hotline 323-207-0012 323-207-0-7 0-0-1-2
.
Alright, call number one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Do it.
So you guys are back.
That's great.
After a month and a half youguys are back and we're barely
15 minutes into the show.
And Rick you called it Mig, youknow what RZA looks like and
ask who's RZA?
My goodness man, you're such aboomer bro.
Mig (02:49):
For sure, you were born in the 70s.
Dude, I corrected myself, yeahman.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Come on.
You gotta know what's up.
Who's the RZA?
Come on, man.
Mig (03:02):
Come on, I didn't know who that CZA was, but I messed up
and mumble-mouthed that I am,and I corrected myself after I
said it, because after I got thelook from Rick and Lionel I
realized I said it wrong.
But I know who the RZA is.
Lano (03:17):
RZA and the SZA is S-Z-A.
I don't even know how youpronounce it like, unless you
hear itVA, that's what I'msaying.
Mig (03:24):
I kept hearing about this SZA.
I'm like, well, who the hell isthat?
So when I was watching thehalftime show, I was expecting
another rapper to come out, butno other rapper came out.
So I was like, well, who thehell is this SZA?
You know cause?
That's what I was thinking.
I'm thinking, oh, it's probablysomeone from Wu-Tang.
You know, I didn't know aboutCause.
I know about the RZA.
You got Method man and Red man.
Lano (03:46):
And people are coming back .
Method Man's doing some songs.
There's people coming back.
I'm on your side.
I'm on your side.
Mig (03:54):
But I corrected myself pretty quickly after I said it.
I'm not a boomer.
You freaking millennial, getyour panties out of your bunch
and go cry to your therapist orsome shit.
Lano (04:11):
Second call.
Mig (04:13):
I'm JX, you don't mess with me At 1434.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Rick says Nah, she featured in a song with him, and
all you hear is me goes.
Oh, what Like it all just madesense to him.
Nah, she featured in a songwith him, and all you hear is me
goes.
Oh, what Like it all just madesense to him.
Oh.
Lano (04:33):
I guess that's when you realize that he was like the
guest singer SZA.
That's like at the 1434 minutemark 14 minutes and 34 seconds.
Mig (04:42):
No, but I thought you guys said it was a chick that was
singing.
Lano (04:44):
No, it is a chick.
That's what he's saying.
Watch, I'll play it again.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
At 14.34.
Rick says nah, she featured ina song with them and all you
hear is me goes.
Oh, like it all just made sense.
Lano (05:04):
It sounds like.
Mig (05:05):
I kind of did Because I don't know who the hell she was.
That's when it all connected.
Lano (05:10):
That's the Bear Growl, Mickey's Bear Growl.
Mig (05:13):
It's called connecting the dots there, mister, once
everything lines up and makessense.
That's just a weird way mybrain processes shit.
Lano (05:27):
Call number three.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Hey, you guys, let's go get.
Let's go get that barbecue Fromthat cat.
I think he sells it by thebeach.
He does like the tomahawksteaks.
He does the ribs sausages.
I sent you guys a video on thata while ago.
We got to hit that spot, bro.
(05:50):
That's my vote.
Lano (05:52):
I don't remember that when he said the barbecue, I was
thinking of the guy in Englewoodthat had, like that fish plate
Remember the one I sent you?
But he said that he sent thisone.
But I got to go, he sent thisone.
Mig (06:01):
But I gotta go back in the text and look at it yeah, I
gotta look at it again, becauseyou guys said so much stuff, man
, I get it all confused andeverything.
We definitely gotta do anotherfood review, though.
When we do the food reviews,that that's usually when we do
our best shows we just gotta setthe the date up.
Lano (06:18):
I mean, we just gotta do it well yeah, just gotta do it.
Mig (06:20):
Just, it never gets done.
Lano (06:23):
Everybody's always Scattered here and there and
everywhere, and If you tell meoh, our cameras are going up.
If you tell me in advance, Icould do it, but like we're just
waiting on Mark's and Rick'sschedule, oh, Watch out for that
bus, guys Gonna get thrownunder it.
Mig (06:41):
That's what this guy loves doing.
You know what I'm talking about.
Throw thrown under it.
That's what this guy lovesdoing.
You know what I'm talking about?
Throwing under the bus, dude.
The one video I do rememberright now and since, we were
watching stuff, we were watchinga video on Adam Carolla touring
Malibu.
The fires and everything.
Everything got destroyed andI'm assuming he was in his house
(07:06):
Because it survived and it'scrazy how Everything on the
shore, like right on the sand,burned, but his house is like
Hundreds of feet Into the hills,didn't?
But Seeing all that coverageand everything again, it
reminded me of that video yousent of your sister dude that
(07:27):
she came out on the news.
Oh, right, right, right, youknow.
And, uh, we never gave her herprops or snaps on that dude.
Oh yeah, maybe we could post itsomewhere.
You know it's uh, michelle,good job, you know, for helping
that dude out.
You know there was um, aresident of Altadena.
That um had lost everything andhe was like, he was like a
(07:49):
construction guy, right, like ahandyman something like that
yeah so he he needed, like a bigvariety of tools that he says
he lost in the fire and um youknow my son lano, their their
uncle had passed away and Iremember lano mentioning his.
Their uncle passed away a whileback.
Lano (08:08):
So she inherited his house and all his tools.
She inherited a house and allhis tools.
Mig (08:13):
And so she offered him up, you know the guy if he wanted to
go see what she had and then hecould take like whatever he
needed.
I was like, oh, that's prettyawesome, dude, that's a pretty
good thing for her to do, youknow, especially like if you
don't know what to do with thetools or anything yeah, because
she's been cleaning it up andthen like she doesn't know what
to do with those tools.
Lano (08:32):
Yeah, you know.
Mig (08:32):
So that's good, but the one thing that got me man and
typical freaking lano being thejerk that he is, you know,
instead of just saying yeah, youknow, good job, sis, you know
way, way to go, you know way toway to help someone out, what is
this jerk saying?
The text message that he sendsme oh, I could use some of those
(08:53):
tools.
Well, I don't know, really,because homeboy just lost
everything, dude, and you'reworried about what?
Lano (09:02):
you could have used, because now, now I'm starting a
family, so like I'm starting mytool collection, please, for
stuff that I need.
I need for um to keep thehousehold in order but did it
burn down?
no, it didn't, but it waseverything but then, um, she,
yeah, I I kind of just peekedand see what what they had.
But, um, so my co was asking mebecause I had sent it to my
(09:25):
friends at work, and they'relike, did they pick up the tools
?
I was like I don't know.
So then I texted my sister.
This was actually yesterday.
I texted my sister and she'slike, oh no, the guy picked them
up that same day right afterthe interview.
They went over there and thenhe picked them up and then he's
(09:46):
actually, um, like helping outthe neighborhood, like like
board up their, um, theirproperty, like, I guess, like
board up their windows or securethe gates, so like looters
can't come in and all that stuff, pay it forward dude, but he's
been helping out um over therejust like secure the, the lots
and stuff, so I mean that endedup working out good well, good
job, michelle.
I'm proud of you she knew hisname and stuff and I think, um,
like they kept in touch andstuff, cause she's like oh, so
and so, yeah, yeah.
Mig (10:04):
Cause I know I know your brother Wouldn't have opened up
His heart that way.
So Good thing you were incharge Of those tools and not
him.
Lano (10:11):
Yeah, so she just Inherited the house A year
before and then the fires cameand we were like, oh man, but
luckily, like her street, thehouse is up there near altadena
also no, it's in altadena, yeahit's an altadena.
Oh wow, I didn't know that so,like when the fires, I was like,
oh, easy come, easy go.
I thought she lost it, but umno, she, it's a.
(10:32):
It skipped her street.
Mig (10:33):
You're a dick what an ass dude.
Lano (10:37):
I swear I was like with my sister's luck, like we lost it,
but um so, apparently like it'sa duplex, so my uncle was
living in the back renting outthe front okay and then, um, so
there was a couple that that, um, my sister's been been cleaning
out the back house and therewas a couple that lives in the
front and, um, so they have liketwo big um pitbulls, so because
(11:01):
there's a yard and everything.
So when they had to evacuate,um, I guess they didn't have
like places like family to go to, so they had to go like to the
hotels or whatever the gyms thatthey're offering housing.
But since they had the two dogs, they had to separate.
So then, my sister, now that,like, I guess the neighborhood's
open again, yeah.
(11:21):
She called them back oh, theneighborhood's open again.
Yeah, she called them back.
Oh, the neighborhood's openagain.
You guys could come back.
And the the lady told her likeoh, you know what?
Um, this time, like these past,whatever, I've been having time
to think about it and you knowI'm not gonna go back really,
but she's separating with theguy oh because they've been
living separate, because yeah,because of the dogs.
So, um, she was gonna find outif the guy was going to come
(11:43):
back, because she was about torant and all that stuff.
But then she said that he'scoming back, but the girl's not
coming back with him.
So that relationship didn'tsurvive, the fire didn't make it
crazy alright, call number 4.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I almost hung up.
I almost dropped off at 59.30.
Mig (12:06):
Once.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I found out that Lano didn't listen or hasn't watched
Gladiator and only watched theparts.
Man, that's a movie you gottawatch, like every year.
Every couple of years you putit on.
You know what I mean.
Remember who you are.
You're a fucking soldier.
You know what I mean.
Can't trust people, blah, blah,blah.
(12:33):
You know I mean kind of likeprepare you, but I don't know,
man, every time, lano, everytime, bro, I'm always rooting
for you, but then you send someweird ass music.
You're still stuck and youdon't even watch the right
movies, bro.
You know what you need, man.
You need some west watson inyour life.
That's what you need.
You need some Wes Watson inyour life, bro, man up.
Mig (12:49):
Alright, try to tell you, mark, but you don't want to
listen.
Lano (12:54):
So what's he saying on the last line?
What's he saying?
Mig (12:59):
Wes Watson or I don't know.
What did he say?
I don't know.
Lano (13:03):
I was reading it but I don't know.
The transcript Says Wes Watsonor watson or something I don't
know.
Mig (13:09):
What does that mean?
I don't know, might be authorof a book or something, or maybe
one of those motivational dudes, or like uh goggins, you know
well, I forgot to charge theselights in the studio so they
went outside of it's dark onYouTube.
But that's right.
It just means it's moreintimate.
Lano (13:27):
Um, well, if you notice the movies I haven't seen, the
thing about them Is they're longmovies, so I gotta set the time
Aside to watch them and then,now that I have the kids, I
gotta either stay up late orwake up early To watch these
movies.
And I was trying to seegladiators this weekend.
I was trying to see it becauseI wanted to see two so we could
talk about the show, and I justI just never got around to doing
(13:50):
it.
But, um, I'm trying to watch itbecause we made that list, that
group list.
I added gladiators on that listso we could see, and then no
one else added anything to thelist.
Did you get the list?
You open it?
Mig (14:01):
I, I saw it, but I didn't open it yeah, hasn't opened it.
Lano (14:03):
The only one who was interested about the list was
Mark, but it's on there.
I'm going to try to see it.
I'll try this week because Iwant to see it.
And then I really didn't knowthe story, but I was watching
the trailer and I was like, oh,I think I'm going to like this.
And now I'm curious about howpart 2 is going to do it.
It's the Like same era, rightor right after.
Mig (14:27):
I think it takes place, maybe like 15.
20 years after Okay.
It's all like Roman time, butyeah, it's still the same era
and everything.
Lano (14:38):
But I am going to see it Because that's a movie that
everybody has Like one of theirtop like five movies.
Yeah, it is dude.
Mig (14:44):
But that one like Godfather I haven't seen, because that's
a movie that everybody has asone of their top five movies.
Lano (14:47):
Yeah, it is dude, I mean, but that one like Godfather I
haven't seen Because those arejust long movies.
It's just like to set aside.
Mig (14:51):
How about?
Lano (14:52):
Three hours.
Mig (14:53):
How about A man on Fire?
Have you seen A man on Fire?
Lano (14:55):
No, I've seen that one yeah.
Mig (14:56):
Yeah.
Lano (14:57):
That's the one with Dakota Fanning right.
Mig (14:59):
The that one's good dude, that one.
Lano (15:01):
I've seen that one multiple times, I think we
talked about it last year andthen I went and saw that one
again.
Mig (15:12):
That one really like tugs at your heart, dude, because
that little girl dude she justmakes you like fall in love with
her dude, like when they findout that she was possibly dead.
Right, you're kind of like man.
It's like you get so pissed offand shit.
Lano (15:23):
It's all like the trafficking and stuff right,
yeah.
Child trafficking.
Mig (15:26):
Well, not trafficking Back when the kidnapping.
Lano (15:29):
Oh, kidnapping Because they're in Mexico.
Right, they're in Mexico.
They go to private school.
Mig (15:34):
So during that time when they would target rich people or
tourists or Americans andkidnap them for ransom?
Lano (15:42):
Yeah, Now One of my favorite Actors, kevin Costner,
denzel Washington.
I was thinking like these arelike guys I would like to get a
movie, but they might all be inthat whole Hollywood scandal.
(16:03):
So that's what's worrying aboutme.
Mig (16:05):
I mean it's gonna be hard, dude.
I mean it's like the wholething.
You started hearing Rumorsabout Tom Hanks and everything.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And more and more it's starting to turn out to be
true.
Mig (16:18):
That's why, to me dude, I've never Really been like
Starstruck or Followed people orodd or yeah?
You know followed people.
Got odd, or yeah?
Or you know followed people ordirectors or got in, so invested
, you know, and then crushedafterwards.
It's like how someone you knowit's like like, say, someone
kind of like a favorite actor,whatever, and they pass away you
(16:41):
know.
It's like you never met him oranything.
But you're right there in tears, bawling dude, like it feels
your your close relative, youknow.
Lano (16:50):
Like when Michael Jackson passed away.
People go crazy.
Shit like that dude I'll neverunderstand.
Dude, it's like.
Mig (16:54):
I don't know who the hell I said.
The only person I said that Iwould possibly be that broken up
over that I've never met is VinScully, but only because of
that personal connection.
You know that you make withthem over the radio, hearing
them call the games.
And he personalized it so much.
(17:16):
You know that he made you feellike you were there with them
Watching the games.
Lano (17:21):
I remember, like Bobby, just hearing stories, a Dodger
game in the background.
Mig (17:25):
You know, eating, drinking some beer Dude, that was the
best and I think, you know, Ithink that's why I kind of
dropped off.
Lano (17:34):
Mm-hmm.
Mig (17:35):
From being like such a diehard Dodger fan that I was.
Lano (17:39):
Mm-hmm.
Mig (17:39):
It's like because, to me, to watch a game at home with
Vince Scully or listen to himhear him on the radio, it was
everything.
Lano (17:48):
And I feel that way with the Lakers and Chick Hearns.
And that's why, when he left, Ikind of like stopped listening
or following.
Mig (17:55):
You know, and even though I'm like I'm a fan of baseball,
I couldn't watch other teams orcoverage of other teams, because
the announcing just sucked.
Like it wasn't Vince Scully,you know, and I just I needed to
hear him and his play by playand his stories and Just
everything, dude.
I mean the guy knew how to doit, you know.
(18:19):
And he just made it Seem soEffortless Like every call Was
like the perfect call.
Yeah.
Lano (18:27):
Like almost every situation, every home, home run
or Whatever it was.
Mig (18:31):
He knew when to talk and when not to talk.
You know, it's like big, bigthing, like With everything to
do with Kirk Gibson's big homerun.
He could have been yapping awayThrough all that, but he's like
.
I think at one point he hadsaid Just listen, I'm gonna let,
I'm gonna stop talking rightnow so you can hear this crowd.
(18:52):
You know, and just let it go.
You know, or his Less is more.
Yeah, and then, like his famousquotes, dude, you know the Kirk
Gibson home run In the year Ofthe Improbable, the impossible
happens.
Lano (19:10):
Right.
Mig (19:12):
That's iconic man.
Lano (19:15):
That wasn't written down.
That's off the top of.
Mig (19:17):
When Valenzuela, I think, threw his no hitter or his
perfect game.
You know, it's like I'm sureright now some idiot out there
Is gonna say that it wasoffensive.
You know, it's like I'm sureright now some idiot out there
is going to say that it wasoffensive, you know, and he was
being racist when he said it.
Lano (19:34):
I don't remember what he said.
What did he say?
Mig (19:35):
Well, he said, if you have a sombrero, throw it in the air.
Lano (19:38):
Oh, like to celebrate?
No, but that's.
He was talking to the people,but that's what I'm saying, you
know.
Mig (19:55):
And I'm sure right now there'll be some idiot out there
that'll find that offensive,you know, just because they need
to find something to get theirpanties in a bunch over.
You know, but the dude knew howto call it man, you know, it
was like I just I just lovedhearing like his stories.
You know, it's like throughoutthe game, dude, he'd be telling
his stories, you know, and hereand there it'd be like
two-on-one, you know, or youknow, here comes the one-one
(20:17):
pitch, you know.
Lano (20:19):
So when I was younger I used to work at a market and the
logo of the market I'm notgoing to say the name, but it
had like like a little, like youknow, the Mexican Taking his
break, like under a cactus, likewith the sombrero, like you
know, covering his face.
That was the logo.
And then At the time I wasworking At the corporate office
and we received Like a letterLike saying Remove it, it's
(20:42):
offensive and stuff.
But me, being Mexican, I neverthought that was offensive, like
that's what, like.
Mig (20:46):
That's what I'm saying.
You see that everywhere.
Lano (20:48):
You see that like Speedy Gonzalez, his cousin Slowpoke
Gonzalez, whatever, like.
Those are just characters Inever like.
Took it personally Like I don'tknow how you feel about that.
Mig (20:59):
No, it's dumb dude, I mean it's dumb what people are
offended by you.
You know it's like you can'tJust be so delicate over nothing
.
You know it's like this worldwould be a lot better place If
people would be able to handlemore and just laugh shit off.
Lano (21:21):
Right.
Mig (21:22):
You know, it's like um.
I was watching um A clip theother day Of Of Four actors.
You know cause?
Right now it's like Supposed tobe Black History Month and they
were supposed to be making abig deal about it.
Lano (21:40):
Well.
Mig (21:41):
Morgan Freeman dude said it the best.
He's being interviewed bywhat's his name?
Old white dude, I forget whathis name was, but he had asked
him like what?
What he, what he thought abouta black history month or
whatever.
And you know, margaret freemanwas like well, what I think
(22:02):
about what he's like?
Do you think it's you knowright that we should be
celebrating whatever he's likehe's like?
Do you think it's you knowright that we should be
celebrating or whatever he'slike?
No, and the guy was like whoa,like why?
You know it's like you're goingto relegate my history to just
one month.
Lano (22:15):
Right.
Mig (22:15):
Which has been my point exactly, you know.
It's like how are you going toput just one month for, like,
forget about black, you know,for any race, you know, and
that's the point that he broughtup.
Also, he's like when is it yourmonth?
And he's like, oh well, I'mjewish.
He's like okay, so when is thejewish history month?
(22:35):
He's like, oh, we don't haveone, he's like, but I don't want
one.
And morgan freeman's like Idon't want one either right
right.
You know, it's like when youlook at me, you shouldn't see
color, you should just see anAmerican, and everything that I
am and everything that camebefore me is American history.
(22:56):
It shouldn't be black history.
It shouldn't be Hispanichistory, it shouldn't be Chinese
American history.
It shouldn't be this, that,whatever, no, we're in America,
it's American history Period'tbe this that.
Whatever, no, we're in America,it's American history Period.
That's it, no, no other thing.
Cause when?
If people would just startseeing Everybody like that and
(23:22):
stop All this stupid Um identitypolitics, the world would be
way better.
All this stupid Identitypolitics, the world would be way
better.
Lano (23:33):
Because what is Hispanic Is that September, like because
of Al Grito, like theindependence or Like I don't
know, like what?
No, like they just picked thatmonth.
Mig (23:42):
No, and that's the other thing.
No, the only, the only monththey they officially relegate Is
Black History.
Yeah, february Right.
No, the only.
Month they officially Relegateis black history, february Right
, and I think it's Bullshit,it's insulting.
You know, it's like what youthink we're, you know we're.
So what's the word I'm lookingfor?
(24:05):
You see, for me it.
It's offensive Because evenaffirmative action.
I find affirmative actionoffensive, because if you need
affirmative action to get a jobor to get into a college.
Lano (24:21):
It should be merit-based, which is the best person for the
job.
Mig (24:25):
Affirmative action is just telling me that because of your
skin color or because of yourcultural background, or because
of this or that, you know it'slike we know you're not going to
be smart enough to get in, solet's do a special little
entrance for you to get in.
If you put it like that, dude,to people, and if they see it
(24:47):
that way, how offensive is thatshit right, why doesn't that
piss you off that?
To me that that's what thataffirmative action is the
backdoor.
Lano (24:58):
They're letting you in like yeah if, if they're not
getting in, then that thatculture or race is gonna like
work harder to get in you'regonna, they're gonna, you're
gonna build up like you know thestrain.
They're gonna be deserving tobe there.
Yeah, like they earned it, butuh, no.
I've been on the opposite sideof affirmative action lots of
times and you know, I think Ithink it's bullshit.
Mig (25:19):
I think just people need to just stop seeing color and race
and everything and just live asAmericans, man, and just be
proud of this great country, andyou can say all you want that
it's racist.
But all I know is that we'vealready had a black president
(25:41):
that was in there for eightyears.
He made the country worsebecause he truly divided it Into
black against white, richagainst poor, you know.
But he was so charismatic andsuch a snake oil salesman that
he had everybody in a trance,you know.
(26:02):
But whatever.
Lano (26:04):
No, at the time, I mean, I think you said it too, but like
he spoke well, like remember,yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I,
I think you said it too, butlike he spoke well, like
remember we were all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's what.
Mig (26:12):
I'm saying you know it's like, it's like as long as it's
like Newsome.
Newsome's another one dude.
He's a slick Talker, he's a conman.
You know it's like he couldtalk his way Into anything.
But does that mean he's goodfor us?
No, cause he's running.
He's ran California To theground for the past six years or
(26:33):
whatever.
It was like he already.
Cause of him, they burned downthe Palisades and Malibu and
Altadena.
It's all on him.
So Anyways, I don't want to getoff on a political ramp, but
Well, last weekend.
Lano (26:53):
So MLS LAC had their opening day.
On Saturday, ralph, he invitedme over to the game.
I couldn't make it becausewe're celebrating with the
in-laws on.
Ellie's birthday, but then itwas a bobblehead day, so the
in-laws ended up.
They all wanted to go to thegame, so we ended up going to
the game and I um ellie'sbirthday.
But then, there, it was abobblehead day, so, um, the
in-laws ended up.
They all wanted to go to thegame, so we ended up going the
game, and I saw ralphie downthere too oh cool he was telling
(27:15):
me that, um that the thewrestling season finished, so so
he has time.
He wants to do an interview howdid his daughter do?
Um fourth place, all city ohnice fourth place for her, for
her weight division, which is,which was what she did last year
.
She was fourth place, so shedidn't make the state term.
I guess the top three makestate, but she was Fourth place.
(27:35):
And then he just says you know,in the off season she needed to
.
You know, like, work out, dosomething like weight lifting,
and she took the off season off,but he said the the second year
around.
You know, everybody came backstronger and bigger.
So that's why.
But um, she noticed it and Iguess um she's gonna work harder
(27:56):
, and this and that.
But we're just talking about how, um, the kids, sports are like
just so, so expensive.
You're saying that, um, theyhad to do a fundraiser and then
the second daughter's in drillteam and he said, that's a set
to join drill team, is this 800bucks?
Wow, it's for I don't know,their, their equipment, all this
stuff and the wrestling.
(28:16):
Um, they had the funders thatare raised 500.
And then that's just like toget in the door and then the
training, the practice, all thatstuff adds up.
But, um, he says again hisweekends, um, again, cause that
took over their life.
Mig (28:26):
For the whole wrestling scene.
No, that's good man.
I mean it's good that he'sthere for his daughters, you
know, and supporting them inwhat they want to do.
Lano (28:34):
So I was at the game, and then they sell cards at the game
soccer cards.
Mig (28:39):
Did you buy any?
Lano (28:40):
I didn't buy any.
I was tempted, but they havethe small boxes.
What were the small boxes?
I was going to get the theprice, but I was like, do you
think everything's just likerandom?
Like, let's say, like there'llbe more hot cards at the game or
or um cities, because that bigum paul skeens car like was
picked up in la, it wasn'tpicked up like in yeah, like is
(29:00):
it really random where theydon't know where the shipments
go?
Mig (29:04):
I'm not sure, dude.
I mean, I want to say I'mhoping that, yes, it is random,
but who knows, who knows.
What I can tell you, though, isthat they did realize that,
with so much, how big the retailmarket is Like selling at the
(29:26):
big box stores.
And everything that they coulddrive their product a lot better
if they put more better hits inthe retail stuff, which is
what's been kind of happeninglately, because I've been buying
.
That's the breaker box rightit's whatever you find, that
target, or walmart oh, that'sthe retail box.
(29:48):
That's the retail box, yeah.
So yeah, that's the box theyhad at the game, the retail box.
Yeah, because they call themeither blasters or hanger packs
you know, because they hang fromthe shelf.
Lano (29:58):
Okay.
Mig (29:59):
You know so, and those usually always tended to just be
base cards.
Like if you wanted to completea set.
So you really never got likeany good hits in it.
But they're kind of changingthat, they're turning that
around.
Well, they did turn it aroundand now it's possible to get
something good out of those.
(30:20):
That's why you never find themyeah that's why you go to
walmart you go.
Lano (30:24):
They never have them.
Mig (30:25):
Target you want to target and the shelves are always empty
.
It it's like all the good stuffdisappears and they leave the
junk behind.
I don't want to say thatYu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon are junk,
because a lot of that stuff isreally valuable also, but they
obviously know which ones topick up and which ones not to.
You know, like a lot of thecollege products they leave
(30:47):
behind because those aren'treally all that valuable.
You know that a lot of collegeproducts they leave behind
because those aren't really allthat valuable.
You know that would besomething that you want, like if
you want to put your ownpersonal collection.
Lano (30:56):
You go to that school, you know that player or something
whatever.
Mig (30:58):
You know, but I've been wanting to Because I saw Tops
Brought back my favorite set ofall time Tops Chromebook
Football.
Lano (31:13):
So they didn't have that for a while.
Mig (31:15):
They didn't have it for like decades Because they lost
the licensing, so they didn'tthink it would Fly If they Put
out a product unlicensed do theyhave a superstar because they
have a mls, like there's a topschrome and then top superstar.
So those are just completelydifferent sets like they don't
connect or honestly, dude, youwould have to go on to the tops
(31:39):
website to see, like thebreakdowns of what they have and
what they don't.
Cause the MLS.
I'm not really familiar with itso.
I wouldn't know how it breaksdown, you know.
But I know With Topps, you knowlike, especially with baseball,
they have what's called thevery first product that comes
out for them on the baseballseason Would be Topps Series 1
(32:05):
and that's just like basic,basic cardboard with like good
stuff sprinkled in, and then youknow, you get like series two
and then you get is that the onewhere everybody waits for, like
the with the trades and and therookies, or something like that
.
Like that that would be seriestwo yeah, there's two you know,
and then like the tops chrome,you know, and then the update is
one with all the the rookiesand everything because what's
(32:26):
after chrome?
I saw something like um well,dude, the tops have so much
stuff for baseball, it's likethey got like stones or like
emerald or something, or yeah,they got the regular.
They got the regular tops.
You know series one, series two, then they got the tops chrome.
Lano (32:41):
They got tops chrome sapphire sapphire, that's the
one, because it's also soccersapphires.
But I'm like what is this?
Mig (32:46):
the whole nother set yeah, then they got, uh, they got
throwback sets like uh allen andginter, which those were fun to
, those were fun to collect.
Um, they got like heritage.
You know they got tribute, youknow they got a bunch of stuff.
Lano (33:02):
I mean it's, it's because then, like on youtube, we saw
that one where it was like, um,just all about Otani.
It was like a set of Otani,there's one yeah.
Mig (33:13):
Cause, uh cause of his 50, 50.
Lano (33:15):
Right, it was just like a whole set, like by packs of
Otani and you have to likecollect them or something.
Mig (33:20):
Yeah, so they'll.
They'll do stuff like that.
You know, you just gotta keepup with it.
You know and know what what'sout there and what's available
and what they're putting outthere.
It's like I'm sure once anotherplayer comes along and does
something incredible like that,they'll do it to them, you know
what would be for a tiny?
Lano (33:42):
what would be like 20 wins , 20 home runs, 20?
What would be the next bigthing?
Or 2020, I don't know, Causenow he's gonna be pitching again
.
Mig (33:53):
Yeah, probably something with pitching.
Lano (33:54):
Yeah, like I mean he won't get like 50 Wins, that's like a
lot of wins, nah, but you weretelling me Before the show you
started you had a card story.
Mig (34:08):
So Back during COVID I started.
When I started collecting again, I got bit by the bug again and
started collecting again.
I bought this one product Forfootball called Leaf Limited and
it's a little more like higherend product.
You know, it's about um, about$120 a pack and only like seven
(34:34):
cards come in the pack, so it'sa little pricey, you know, and
you take a chance and, um, Ipulled what's, uh, what they
call a redemption, which is acard that wasn't ready At the
time of production or packing.
But they put this.
Lano (34:50):
Like an IOU kind of thing, an IOU, so they put that in
there Like a ticket to getsomething Right.
Mig (34:55):
So with the claim code and everything.
So you go on their website, youput in the claim code and you
put in the claim and youraddress and everything and
Hopefully, when the card's ready, they send it to you.
Lano (35:06):
Oh, so that's how it works .
I thought you just had to mailin blind.
You have to like scratch a codeoff or type in a code.
Yeah, and so you do that andthey take all your info and
everything and you wait, youknow, so you just type in the
code, you don't actually sendanything in, or you do send the
card in the redemption cardBefore.
Mig (35:23):
So you don't actually send anything in, or you do send the
card in the redemption cardbefore you would send the you
would mail it in.
Okay, but now that everything'sdone online, now you just enter
a code on their website.
Lano (35:31):
Okay, that seems a little safer.
Mig (35:32):
Yeah, so, um, so I did that , you know, and, um, I I checked
out to see what the card wasthat I was supposed to receive
and it was a Troy Aikmanautograph, you know, but it was
supposed to be a one-on-one, youknow.
So it's a pretty ultra-rarecard, you know.
It's supposed to be like alittle booklet card, Dallas,
that's how he's played for us,yeah, dallas Cowboys.
(35:54):
Well, actually it was a draftday.
Oh, so it might have been aUCLA card.
Lano (35:58):
Okay.
Mig (36:05):
A UCLA card with him, um, with his autograph, and, I'm
assuming, a piece of jersey,because there's a little booklet
that opens up.
You know, and um, if, that wouldhave been nice if you ever look
up cards and look up bookletcards, you can see like what I'm
talking about.
You know it's like super thick,it's like two super thick cards
put together like a little book.
You know it opens up, itunfolds, know it opens up, it
(36:31):
unfolds.
So typically, I mean before youwould wait maybe up to a year,
maybe year and some monthsbefore they fulfilled your, your
card.
You know that it wouldn't takethem that long to have it done
and send out to you.
Now the other option they giveyou is, if they can't Get the
card done for whatever reason,they Offer you the option of a
(36:51):
replacement.
Lano (36:53):
So that means like they couldn't get the signature or
the jersey or whatever.
Mig (36:58):
I'm assuming they couldn't get the signature.
But I've seen a bunch of Otherproducts After that year that
he's autographed, and so I don'tknow, I don't know what the
deal was.
So what they do is, you know,if you ask for a replacement,
then they won't bother with thatanymore and they'll send you
(37:21):
out a replacement, hopefully ofequal or better value anymore,
and they'll send you out areplacement, hopefully of equal
or better value.
Well, five years later, fiveyears, five years, dude, and in
between that I've been calling,I've been writing, emailing.
Emails have been ignored.
Lano (37:38):
You know, it wasn't until I called and actually got
someone on the phone so you goto your, your website, the
account that shows pending, oryeah, or status in progress or
whatever.
Mig (37:48):
You know.
So, and it's the first timeI've ever had this problem.
It's like I've redeemed a bunchof cards and I've gotten them,
no problem, got replacements,you know, whatever.
But this first time, you know,it's like, of course, when it's
gonna be like a really good card, you know I'm not gonna get it
right.
So so I finally, you know, madea, called them a couple times
(38:10):
and started barking at them.
You know it's like dude, it'slike where am I gonna get my
freaking card, my redemption?
You know it's already been fiveyears this is like support.
Yeah, it's a part, yeah sothey're like oh, you know, it's
like we, we got you in linealready.
You know you're in line to getyour replacement.
Just please be patient, orwhatever.
Lano (38:28):
No, but five years, that's like already ridiculous.
Mig (38:30):
Yeah, yeah.
So this past weekend I didn'tcheck my email until Sunday
morning and I saw that I got anemail from Panini.
You know the manufacturer.
And I saw that I got an emailfrom Panini you know the
manufacturer and it said that myreplacement is on its way and
(38:53):
they provided me a trackingnumber and I checked the
tracking number and it showed itwas going to get there
yesterday, monday.
Lano (38:58):
I was like, oh shit, cool Is this like UPS, or how does it
come?
Mig (39:02):
Yeah, it came UPS Okay.
So I was just hoping it'd getthere early enough before I left
for work, because otherwise itneeded to be signed for oh there
wouldn't be nobody signed.
You know, they just leave alittle post-it, then I gotta go
back to the next day or whatever.
Lano (39:19):
That's just like a warehouse.
Mig (39:20):
Yeah, I got that anticipation, you know, and I'm
like damn man.
So.
But you know, the good thing isI heard the dogs barking like
crazy, so I'm like, oh shit,that's probably him you know, so
I went out there, got my Cardsand everything, but the thing is
, on the email I read that thereplacement they were sending me
Were five packs Of uh mosaic2023 Mosaic football.
Lano (39:48):
Oh, 2023, that's the.
That was the same year of thepack, the Troy Rickman.
2023 or no?
Mig (39:54):
No, no, the one I was supposed to get Was a 2020, so
they just, you know, I guess,send me these Random packs 2023,
and they, they also put a onewhite box and I was like white
box and I never heard of thatyou know, I was like I don't
know what a white box is NFLwhite box NFL white box.
Lano (40:16):
But they do them for all their products.
Mig (40:18):
So they'll do a baseball one.
They have basketballs, you know, they got all of them.
So I started doing a littleinvestigating, I started
checking out videos on youtubeand, yeah, you know, come to
find out that that white boxthey send the card.
It's a guarantee to beone-on-one, but what player you
(40:40):
get, who knows, you know?
And whether it be a jersey card, whether it be an autograph,
that box is 101?
.
Lano (40:46):
It's just one card and one box, one card, not a pack.
One card.
Mig (40:50):
No one card.
Lano (40:51):
Uh-huh.
Mig (40:52):
And it's marked 101.
So I'm like, okay, well, atleast I got that going for me.
You know it's going to be thesame thing.
You know they're replacing the101 with the 101.
Lano (41:01):
So, um, Normally Like how much does the white box Buy, or
you can't buy it.
Oh, you can't buy it, okay.
Mig (41:06):
They send them only as a as a redemption replacement.
Lano (41:11):
Oh, that's a special Okay.
Mig (41:12):
Yeah.
So you can't, you can't just goand Buy them.
I mean, people are signing themOn eBay, still sealed, because
they sent them to you Sealed.
So as long as you don't Breakthat seal, you can still sell
them.
Lano (41:23):
Uh huh.
Mig (41:25):
You know and um.
Lano (41:26):
Did that cross your mind?
Mig (41:27):
No, For like two seconds.
So um, so I got my packs andturns out like when I got the
packs, you know I got everything, I opened it up and when I had,
when I had seen um Videos onYouTube, you know it showed that
it comes encased with theirsticker sealing, you know, to
(41:50):
make sure it doesn't gettampered with.
Lano (41:52):
Yeah, because I've seen some people they open a box and
like they're already in cases.
Mig (41:56):
Yeah, and they have like a sticker on them to make sure
that they haven't been messedwith.
So the packs that I got wereactually what they call a
sparkle packs.
So these are like special packsthat are not in circulation
either.
You know, it's like you got toget them through like promotions
or stuff like that.
So I opened those up first andin each of those sparkle packs
(42:20):
there was four cards, I believeFour or five cards.
Nothing really good came out ofthose.
It like some some average stuffcame out, okay stuff, you know,
but nothing really likespectacular but they have some
value, right.
Lano (42:35):
They're not just like yeah , yeah, random.
I mean I got.
Mig (42:37):
I got one card.
It was a green sparkle numberto like eight, so it was really
low numbered, okay, so thatone's probably worth about 50,
60 bucks, you know.
But it wasn't like no big name.
Like, say, that same card wouldhave been like a Mahomes or a
Josh Allen or you know one ofthe top rookies or some shit.
Then that shit would have beena crazy freaking card.
(43:01):
You know we're talkingthousands of dollars, right?
So nothing, nothing, nothingspectacular came out of those
packs that's not the white boxyet, that's just the cart.
So then so, and this whole timewhen, when they're saying I read
that they're gonna send me theredemption, I was thinking
should I save it for the showand open this stuff on the show?
But as soon as I got it I waslike I can't wait, man, I gotta,
(43:27):
I gotta see what's in here.
Lano (43:29):
That could have made us go viral, because it could have
been big oh, maybe I mean if ithad been a bigger player.
Mig (43:34):
I mean it was a good card and a pretty big card, but if it
was a bigger player, like okay.
Lano (43:42):
Well, how big is this white box?
Because it's only one card.
Mig (43:45):
It's small, it's oh okay just like the size of a little
jewelry box, like, say,something you would give a
necklace in all, right all right, so, um, so I go to open up the
white box and of course I'mopening it up slowly and I see
that it's out of one of theirhigh-end.
Lano (44:04):
It's in a case or no.
Mig (44:05):
It's in a case, but the set that it came from is from their
ultra-premium, high-end setswhich you're talking about.
These sets, if you look them up, if you look up like Impeccable
, if you look up Flawless, ifyou look up National Treasures,
(44:26):
look up national treasures,these are they're literally like
suitcases or little briefcasesand maybe only like six or eight
cards come in them, but they'relike super premium cards and
you know they got like rarestuff on them and you know the
the cases run four, five, sixthousand dollars each I think I
(44:49):
see one of those like an openingof those.
Yeah, so, um, I go to open itand I see that it's out of a
flawless set and already I'mgetting excited because I'm like
shit, that's like a yeah,thousand dollars?
Yeah, there's no there's no wayI would ever get my hands on a
card like this, you know cause?
I'm just not going to pay$7,000 for a, for a freaking
(45:11):
pack.
So then I started.
I keep going down and it's adamn uh.
John Alway autograph.
Lano (45:18):
Oh yeah.
I'm a hall of famer John.
Mig (45:20):
Alway.
Yeah, john Alway Local kidGranada.
Hills.
So then I started, I startedlooking up the value of it and
it's hard to tell the valuebecause 101 cards, you know you
got no reference.
Lano (45:30):
Yeah.
Mig (45:31):
It's the only one that exists.
Lano (45:32):
What year set it?
Was it from?
Mig (45:34):
It was from 2021, no 20.
Was it 20 2021?
Yeah, 2021, flawless and um.
So I looked up other Comparableor something Comparable 101
cards from the same set but likedifferent looking card and
(45:55):
they're really not sellinganything below $1,000, dude.
So I was like, all right, dude,I got a pretty damn good hit
here.
Lano (46:03):
I mean John Elway.
I think he's a top fivequarterback in anybody's list,
Right?
Mig (46:09):
Yeah, I mean he's still super popular with Broncos fans.
Lano (46:14):
Is he a GM or no?
I don't know if he still is.
Mig (46:17):
The president or something, something like that.
Yeah, he's still involved, Ithink uh.
No, john Lynch was, uh, theNiners.
Lano (46:25):
Niners.
Mig (46:25):
Niners, yeah, niners, yeah.
So I think he's the presidentof operations or something for
the Broncos.
Lano (46:31):
Damn it, Broncos.
Mig (46:32):
Yeah, but he's still big time dude.
And now I really want to go toa card show and try to unload
some of my high-end stuff dude,because eBay just straight rips
you off dude.
Lano (46:43):
Did you tell your friends about it, that car shop in
monrovia or no?
Mig (46:47):
I haven't been there, oh yeah, and I want to go because,
I'm telling you, they releasedtops chrome football and I went
on their website to see how muchit's selling for, because I've
always loved tops chrome,because it's affordable, you
know, and I was expecting to seethat maybe they're selling
their boxes for like maybe 200,250 or so, and I jumped on their
(47:10):
dude and they're signing up forlike 489.
Oh, are you guys kidding me,man?
Lano (47:16):
well, that's why I'm in soccer because you get them
around 100 bucks.
My wife said we were buying.
My wife saw she gave me a setfor valentine's day a box and it
was like 85.
She said she got it for.
Mig (47:26):
And I've been Like.
I've been on YouTube dudeSeeing what people are pulling
Out of that Topps Chrome dudeand, oh man, I want to bite the
bullet so hard To just go getone.
Lano (47:35):
No Cause.
I know it's about soccer.
I don't know football.
It's not every player right,it's just like.
Mig (47:41):
No.
Lano (47:41):
Random, like not even starters right, just random
people yeah, it's not.
Mig (47:45):
It's not like baseball used to be where, even like the like
every single player had no nameguys.
Yeah, yeah it's like now.
It's like they gotta be atleast stars is that the way it
is now at?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
least like starters yeah, okay you know.
Mig (48:02):
So you gotta have like some type of star status.
You know, if you don't havesome type of star status, or
reckon what's the word NotorietyRight?
Lano (48:17):
You know the Instagram age .
You have to be a star, you haveto know something Social media.
Mig (48:23):
So if you don't have like a following or whatever, more
than likely they're not gonnamake a card out of you.
You know, like, say um, likewho on the dodgers well, it
could be.
Lano (48:40):
I mean, I was gonna say, kiki, he has a card Like he's a
shortstop, the utility man, theyou know, the pitch hater or
something I don't know.
Mig (48:50):
Who's a backup catcher?
Lano (48:53):
I don't even know.
Mig (48:54):
Barnes.
Lano (48:55):
Oh.
Mig (48:56):
So like there's not going to be a Barnes card made, you
know, because he's just a backupcatcher and he rarely plays- so
there's some players that neverget a rookie card unless
they're like a draft pick or astar.
Yeah.
Lano (49:10):
Okay, that's crazy.
I mean your story kind of soundslike.
I saw this YouTube video wherethis guy was on the Nintendo 64.
He wanted to get every singlecolor controller that they had.
So I didn't think it was likehe had the collection on the
wall, the colors, but like therewas one he was missing and it
was like the gold controller.
And I was like the goldcontroller was only given away
(49:34):
from like some guy that likebeat the game in some convention
or something like that, Like itwas the grand prize.
Oh, yeah.
It was like some goldencontroller that the guy had to
win the the event at the showand then he was given by
nintendo this golden controllerthat was like a 101 oh crazy and
then he finds the guy that hasit and ends up like getting it,
(49:54):
but like yeah like you say,those are like.
Like you said, there's cards orkits that are not in
circulation that you have tolike yeah go to some convention
or some show, or which adds toits reality.
Mig (50:04):
Party or something which adds to it's rarity, you know,
because it's like who's to saythat the card that wasn't sent
to me, you know that I wassupposed to pull If that's going
to be sent to someone elseafter, right, you know.
So it's like this one that theysent me, you know, probably
(50:25):
Didn't get ready or didn't getclaimed At the time because they
put they put an expiration date.
Lano (50:33):
Oh, you have to put in the code or call the number.
Mig (50:35):
Yeah, they usually give it like a two year, a two year
Grace period.
Lano (50:42):
That's probably two years for someone To find it, pull it
or whatever.
Mig (50:45):
To pull it or whatever you know, but say I go right now and
I go buy a 2020 pack.
It's already five years laterand I pull a redemption.
You know they might not have itanymore.
It's like you can still send itin and they'll send you
something you know, but umancesare If it didn't get claimed.
Lano (51:07):
So people don't sell redemption cards.
Mig (51:09):
Yeah, I've sold them before .
Lano (51:12):
Oh, if you Just didn't want it, so you sold it?
Or was it a player or a cardyou weren't interested in?
Or just to make a buck?
Mig (51:19):
Just to make money.
You know, it was probably likesome rookie or something that I
didn't think was going to panout.
So I'm like, maybe get what Ican while I can.
You know you, just you don't,you don't scratch off the code
or anything.
Lano (51:33):
Oh.
Mig (51:33):
You know, or some of them have like QR codes on them or
something, just like when youput it up for Like on online to
sell, you cover up that barcode.
Lano (51:44):
Or the QR code, like gift cards.
It's like like gift cards.
It'll be like a sticker on thetop covering there, like a
scratcher sticker or no kind oflike something yeah, well, I I
now, now that you already openedit, like you think it would
have been a good um white boxopen up on there.
I mean I think john elway wouldhave been like oh, wow, yeah, I
mean it's a beautiful card.
Mig (52:05):
Dude, the card's beautiful.
You know that that ticket wouldhave probably been good,
wouldn't have been like the giveus some rain that box that we
open the baseball that would becool.
Lano (52:17):
I do want to do another.
Um, I mean I'm not going topitch in for that flawless box,
but I do I do want to do anotherwhere we all pitch in another
card break.
The Skeen Sonar already pickedit, so I don't know what's out
there, what's hot, but yeah,like something we know, like
football or something that wouldbe good Like a hot card.
Mig (52:39):
Yeah, I'm telling you, one of these days, dude, a bug is
going to go up my ass and I'mgoing to go buy one of those
boxes of Topps Chrome dude.
I might have to bring it in andopen it right here.
Lano (52:52):
All right, I feel like this is a good spot to wrap it
up.
Mig (52:56):
Hope we didn't bore you people We'll have Rick next week
, hopefully.
Nerding out a little bit overcards and collecting.
That's what we do.
Lano (53:09):
What we do to do what else is out there?
I'm collecting records, butnothing crazy.
Mig (53:15):
There's a lot out there, dude.
You'd be surprised.
Lano (53:19):
When's the last time you've been to Frankincense?
Mig (53:21):
I haven't been there forever.
Lano (53:23):
I need to go there though.
Mig (53:24):
Me, me too, but for right now, keep on drifting, yo Peace.
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