Episode 133 - Beyond Borders: Conversations with El Vampiro - Drifting on Arroyo

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Mig (00:11):
Welcome back to the Drifting on the Arroyo Podcast.
This is Mig.
This is Lano.
R-k-6-7 is missing once again.
I think the Bears and Yosemitegot him.
Dude, you called him or youjust texted him.
I texted him.

Lano (00:30):
I was going to say maybe we should send him the link.

Mig (00:32):
I was going to tell you that before the show.

Lano (00:33):
You should have done it.
I forgot.
I wasn't sure how busy he wasgoing to be.

Mig (00:36):
Yeah, but anyways he's not here Special guest.
But we do have a fill-in VerySpecial guest.
But we do have a fill in Veryspecial, a fan favorite.
If you can't tell by that,laugh already.
You're not really a fan.
It's the famous, the one andonly, david El Vampiritis.

(00:59):
Hello, how you doing, davidGreat.
Long time no see man.
Yeah, I think it's been threeyears, not that long, hello.
Hello, how are you doing, davidGreat Long?

David Na (01:06):
time no see man.
Yeah, I think it's been threeyears.

Mig (01:08):
Not that long.
Well since you've been on theshow, but Three years on the
show, yeah.
I mean not since I've seen you.

Lano (01:14):
Has it been that long?
I don't know.

David Na (01:17):
I haven't seen him since the show.

Lano (01:19):
I saw you on.
Halloween.

Mig (01:20):
Halloween.
Yeah, last Last Halloween, lastHalloween at Rick's birthday
party.

Lano (01:23):
Oh, halloween party oh that was right.

David Na (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Mig (01:27):
That was a good time.

David Na (01:28):
That was a year ago, yeah.

Lano (01:29):
Is he doing it this year, because it's already coming up.
I haven't heard anything aboutit.

Mig (01:32):
No, he told me he wasn't going to do it this year.
He has to take a break.
It's a lot, a lot of work goingright now that he has to get
squared away.
So with, uh, with his business,you know, I mean thank god, you
know his business is rollingalong really nicely.
So you know, that's good.

Lano (01:51):
You know, we all, we all got our businesses rolling along
pretty nicely now and then hehad like um, that halloween
party was like back to back with, I guess, the friendsgiving or
christmas.
It was like it was too too muchlike two, two parties close
together.

Mig (02:04):
It is.
It's a lot, you might not think, but he goes all out for every
one of them, yeah.

Lano (02:09):
To switch it over.

Mig (02:10):
Especially for the Halloween.
That Halloween party was greatthat.

Lano (02:15):
Halloween party was fun.

Mig (02:17):
It was you live too early.

David Na (02:22):
I really like your costume, River.

Lano (02:25):
Oh, is that the P Diddy one?
Yeah, oh, I forgot to turn onthis other camera.
You guys keep talking.

Mig (02:31):
Which one?
Oh, the TV one.
So, anyways, what you been upto, david.
Where are you teaching at now?

David Na (02:42):
I'm at a high school Out in Chino Hills, you know.

Mig (02:45):
Okay, is that the one you said you were going to be
teaching at the last time youwere here?
Yeah, okay, that's good, soit's going good.

David Na (02:51):
It's going great.
The kids are really cool, thestaff, everybody's really
supportive there.
I love it.

Mig (02:57):
Okay, and you hear anything from Fresno and from anybody
over there, you know what Ibroke all contact with the
people in Fresno, you know.

David Na (03:04):
Okay, when I came back it was like they're gone, I'm
not going to.

Lano (03:09):
Oh, in Fresno, the last show, you're talking about how
there was like some trauma orsomething, right?
No, I'm not bringing it up, butthat was the last thing.
So I mean it was good to likelose contact with those people.

David Na (03:19):
Yeah, yeah, you don.

Mig (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't need that negativityin your life, dude.

David Na (03:23):
I don't.
And you know, once I was ableto step away from that, I saw
things like in a differentperspective.
You know, there you go.
It was kind of like a blessingin disguise, you know, see
because you were all worried.

Mig (03:38):
You were really worried about leaving over there and you
were having doubts andeverything.

David Na (03:44):
I told you, dude, just trust, trust that God's going
to put you where you need to beRight.

Mig (03:51):
Look at you now dude.

David Na (03:52):
You know what, Mick?
I know you're not going tobelieve this, Mick, but I love
that place so much, that littletown I was in.

Lano (03:59):
Fresno.

David Na (04:00):
Yeah, there was a little town.
I'm not going to say it righton there where the town was.
I love the people and everytime I dream about it it's
always like a good dream, youknow, like there's never been a
nightmare, because the peopleright there were just cool, very
genuine, you know, yeah, veryhardworking.

Lano (04:19):
Like good memories, but you had some bad apples there.
Yeah, you had some bad apples.

Mig (04:22):
I mean, that's what they say.
You know, just a couple of badapples ruins the whole barrel,
the whole barrel.
Yeah, yeah, you're right,you're right.

David Na (04:31):
But it's been a good three years being back here, you
know.
Yeah, there you go, but youknow there's still a lot of
memories there, a lot of great,fond memories of Fresno, you
know.

Mig (04:41):
Yeah.

Lano (04:42):
So now you're back and then.
So David, if the audiencedoesn't remember Is a professor,
he's a professor Of English.

David Na (04:50):
I was, if you can believe that.

Lano (04:53):
He has the highest education In the room right here
, yeah.

David Na (04:58):
In his element.

Mig (04:59):
The dude's actually Pretty brilliant.

David Na (05:00):
Hey, thanks man Out of his element.
I don't know but I love the guyyeah, same here big I love you
guys, great, great friends huhyeah, dude, how long has it been
?
How long has it been?

Mig (05:17):
dude it's been you know, I think about that, like with a
lot of people that I'm still intouch with, and I think about
that, and it's like you startcounting the years and you're
like, dude, it's like where hasthe time gone?
It's like it's like just uh, um, a few episodes ago I had my

(05:37):
friend on, you know that.
Um, I met back in 05.
Her name's sylvia and we hadher.
We had her on because she wastalking about Barron's Baseball
Academy, you know, which I stillkeep on posting a bunch of
stuff on Instagram on it.
You know, for anybodyinterested out there wanting to
get their kid into baseball andstuff, good place to start Check

(05:58):
them out.
They're bringing home hardware,championships and everything.
So just thought I'd give them ashout out.
Well, shout out, parents,baseball and Instagram yeah.
And yeah, you know, it's like wehad her on here, you know, one
of the one of the weeks thatRick wasn't here.
So she filled in and, um, yeah,we started talking about it and
we're like dude, 20 years, wemet 20 years ago.

(06:30):
Wow, oh, five.
Yeah, it's like I'm still inthe mindset of when someone says
30 years ago.
I'm still thinking what the 70s.
Yeah, that's where my mind's atdude.
It's like no dude 30 years agoand it's the 90s.
Yeah, you know, I'm already outof school you know, I'm already
an adult.
It's like when the hell did thathappen?
Oh, five was.
Imagine that five years aftery2k.
You know, I'm already out ofschool.
You know, and I'm already anadult.
It's like when the hell didthat happen 05 was imagine that
five years after Y2K?

David Na (06:49):
Remember that whole big thing.
Yeah, that garbage right.

Lano (06:51):
People thought everything was going to end, or whatever.

David Na (06:53):
When did I meet you guys?
It was at the coffee shop, atYancy's coffee shop.

Mig (06:57):
Oh, whenever he opened up dude.
I mean, I honestly can'tremember when it was, you know.

Lano (07:04):
Do you remember Lalo the year?
No, but that's when we metDolores.
That's when everybody, like we,were all like like young kids,
like I don't know, I don't know.

Mig (07:13):
We were in our 20s, 30s, I don't even remember 30, maybe I
think it's easily what like 15years, maybe now 10 or 15 years
it goes by fast, dude.

Lano (07:27):
Before you know it, you've been on the show twice and
we're still trying to getDolores to be on the show once.

David Na (07:31):
Yeah, what happened with her?

Mig (07:33):
She never calls back Really yeah.
She's been checking up on uslately she checks up on us,
because when we threw down ourweight loss challenge Last
episode, she actually texted usin a group.
Uh, she's like, oh so who's inthe lead and oh so who's who's
winning.
You know who's losing the mostso far oh, I know you're paying
attention, delores.

Lano (07:54):
Yeah, well, we'll get on the show, especially now that we
know how to do this link.

David Na (07:58):
You know I'm shy and you don't want to be on the show
I remember, uh, she came overto rick's house and she got on
this thing and rick flipped herupside down oh, and she was
hanging from that back stretcherthing.

Mig (08:13):
It's like a decompressor.
That was that thing's funny.

David Na (08:19):
That was like the funniest thing man she was.
She had this long dress.

Mig (08:26):
That's terrible, yeah, man.

David Na (08:27):
It was.
It was cool, but I.

Lano (08:29):
the last time I think I saw Dolores was my baby's, my
first daughter's birthday party.
Wow, Cause you brought her.

Mig (08:35):
Oh, the pizza place, yeah, the pizza place.

Lano (08:36):
You brought her down, and I think that was the last time.

David Na (08:39):
I don't like that pizza place.

Lano (08:40):
My, my daughter's going to be four in February, so that
was already three years ago.

Mig (08:44):
Gosh yeah.

David Na (08:44):
I see so it'll be fast .
Who do your daughters look like?
Your wife or you?

Lano (08:51):
They all say they look like me.
Oh, I don't know.

Mig (08:53):
I say Laura.

Lano (08:54):
You say Laura, both of them.

Mig (08:56):
Yeah, dude, they're cute.
They're not looking at me likeyou.
They're cute little girls.

Lano (09:02):
I mean, I don't know.
My wife says they look like me.
They always say that they'remaking your face, but I don't
know, they're always like madall the time?

Mig (09:11):
Oh yeah, probably because they're hungry.

Lano (09:14):
The hungry face.
So, You're back in.
How long have you been backsince the Fresno?
When did you leave Fresno?

David Na (09:20):
2023.
So it's two years, two years.
And then so You're, you'reteaching again where uh, I'd
rather not say it out there, butit's it's out in the inland
empire the inland empire, andthis is high school, or high
school and you're teaching.

Lano (09:36):
What are you teaching?
Uh eld eld means what?

David Na (09:40):
english language development okay, okay.

Lano (09:43):
So what grade Is that like ?
Like any grade Of the fouryears In high school?
Yeah, it's.

David Na (09:49):
What do you call it, these kids that haven't passed
the language proficiency exam?
So they go from Ninth totwelfth grade and they're there.
You know, some of them Getstuck there.

Mig (10:00):
So back in the day, when we were in school, they used to
call it esl.
Yeah, english as a secondlanguage, yeah, but now it's eld
, they call it, they change theterminology terminology right
more political correct orsomething.
Yeah, we won't.
We won't get into that, yeah,and how do you feel about um
like?

Lano (10:19):
because I mean, when I look at kids these days, I I
feel like they're behind.
How do you feel?
Did COVID ruin them?
How are the kids now?
Are they caught up?
I think they're better nowacademically you think so.

David Na (10:35):
Yeah, but I can't really tell because I deal with
a lot of kids from othercountries coming here trying to
learn English.

Mig (10:42):
Well, yeah, but they're great.
Yeah, I mean, if you're, if youwere dealing with the ones that
were like born here andeverything I was gonna say it's
like you don't you don't findlike a certain like laziness in
them, or?

David Na (10:56):
you know, you know when I was okay, not not
laziness like iphone era, like,are they on their phones?

Lano (11:00):
yeah, yeah, they, a lot of them are not, not so much like
on their phones.

Mig (11:03):
But but you know how a lot of the stories go around of
students not using like the aior chat yeah, I do the reports
or anything it's like.
Have you come across anythinglike?
That, or I think that is true,or is it not really like, like
in your field, or like whatyou're teaching?
Does that not really like apply, you know, because they have to
like really get a grasp for thelanguage and well, you know,

(11:26):
here's the thing.

David Na (11:27):
Like a lot of them, uh , a lot of the students, uh, use
something called googletranslate, you know okay, right
and it translate, translated,translates it from their native
language to english, right, oh,but that's a crutch, you know,
and I tell my kids doing it forthem.

Mig (11:42):
They're not learning and then they go to another class
like history, or you see, that'skind of what I meant, like you
haven't been noticing, like alaziness.
You know like they need, youknow like technology or whatever
, or otherwise they're not goingto learn, you know.

David Na (12:01):
You know what here's the thing a lot of the kids,
you're right, they do use it and, as a teacher, if the teacher
was smart enough, you could tellit's not their work, Because
it's not like you.
I can take a paper that a kidwrote, supposedly allegedly, and
say what does this vocabularyword mean?
And they're all I don't know.
I just you know, so you couldtell.

Lano (12:26):
Right there they plagiarized or they got it from
AI.
That's the way you check it.
You know, do you?

David Na (12:28):
get on them.
You know, last year, but thisyear, with Google Translate it
might do it, but I'm trying tostart Something different when?
I tell them Put yourChromebooks, your cell phones,
put them away and keep them upthere.
And your cell phones, put themaway and keep them up there and
I just go.
You're going to go, pen andpaper, I'm going to give you the
sentence frames yeah.

(12:48):
And if you can't figure it out,you're going to ask someone that
knows English, or me.
Hey, mr Navarro, what does thismean?
And we'll find a way totranslate it.
You know, but you're not goingto use Google Translate.

Lano (12:57):
That's good, and you said Chromebooks.
Is this like a public school ora private school?
Yeah, it's a public school Okay.

Mig (13:10):
That's a good school district right there.

David Na (13:11):
Yeah, it's a great school district, it's awesome.
Yeah, they're amazing yeah.

Lano (13:15):
And you've been at this school for how long?

David Na (13:18):
This is my second year .

Lano (13:20):
Okay.

David Na (13:21):
You have like a big, a large classroom, like big
amount of students or my fourthperiod maybe, like I have like
35, you know that's pretty good,yeah, good size, number and
Because I remember when we werein high school.

Mig (13:33):
You know it's like that was always a problem.

David Na (13:35):
You know, too crowded a classroom like 50 kids or
something like that Did you havethat many in there there make
some, some classes.
Yeah, what class was it?

Mig (13:43):
I mean, but this is like early on, like in junior high
right because once I got intohigh school, I was like taking
higher level classes andeverything so oh, so it was a
select group like small.

Lano (13:52):
Yeah, so the classes were smaller, or something like that
yeah, wow, how many.

David Na (13:56):
How many did you have?
How many students in the classwhen?

Mig (14:00):
you were taking those classes an average um 20.
Maybe that's good man yeah.

Lano (14:05):
Yeah, because when I was in school, like my junior senior
year, I had like three APclasses.

Mig (14:09):
Yeah.

Lano (14:10):
Nowadays, people like they got like five or six AP classes
like the smart ones and I waslike I was top 13% in my class,
wow, but my class was only like100 people, so I was like number
13.

David Na (14:25):
That's pretty good it was easy for the percentages.

Lano (14:29):
But my classes were like maybe 15, 16, the honor roll
classes, like the AP classes andstuff.
I mean I graduated with a 4.3,but nowadays kids graduate like
4.8 or whatever.

David Na (14:38):
That's ridiculous, scott kind of.

Mig (14:42):
Yeah, I never understood how the GPA GPS could go higher
than 4.0.

David Na (14:45):
Well, you know what it's?

Lano (14:45):
because it's a bonus.
They get a bonus point forthose classes.
Yeah, but that's crazy Becauseif you pass the test at the end,
then like you don't have totake that class in college.
But I never like passed thetest at the end.

Mig (14:58):
I'll tell you this, though dude, For as smart as I thought
I was in high school Once I gotto college.

David Na (15:05):
What was it?
Cal State LA Cal.

Mig (15:06):
State.

Lano (15:07):
LA dude, but engineering, you're an engineer, well yeah
engineering.

Mig (15:10):
But either way, dude, I was not prepared.
I thought I knew my stuff inand out, you know, and I thought
I was going to breeze.
Now, honestly, like that shitwas a rude awakening.

Lano (15:22):
I from a like a private school with like maybe two
percent asians and then when Iwent to casa late, like the
majority of my engineeringclasses were like with asians
like I, just I couldn't competewith their, their book smarts,
their book smarts I mean theyjust had better habits than I
had that's, that's what it boilsdown to, you know.

David Na (15:40):
But you know, if you had, if you could change time or
something you did, would youChange it to an easier major, if
you could?

Mig (15:48):
Like now that you look back , I don't, I mean what would be
easier.

David Na (15:56):
Anything, engineering is hard, man, but it's like.
You like engineering.

Mig (16:00):
But the thing is I didn't see myself being a teacher, you
know.
I didn't see myself anything inthe medical field.

David Na (16:08):
Okay.

Mig (16:08):
Which would have been exponentially more difficult.

David Na (16:11):
Right.

Mig (16:12):
You know, it's like I didn't see myself in any of the
political sciences or anythinglike that.
The only I guess what I wasthinking back then is like of
the degrees and everything,which one would be most hands-on
and, I guess, like mostblue-collar let's say Right

(16:33):
right, you know, and that's whyI chose engineering.

Lano (16:36):
Was it like mechanical engineering or just engineering
Civil?
Okay, because that's what I didcivil engineering.

Mig (16:40):
Yeah, civil dude, I mean building stuff, right, I'm like
like I'm all over it, you know.

David Na (16:44):
But but what about this?
What about If you would've gota trade tech and you would've
got Like a trade, you know?

Mig (16:51):
I have a trade.

David Na (16:52):
Okay, I know.

Mig (16:53):
I made a career Of being a mechanic.
Yeah, I know.

David Na (16:56):
But you could've even Got a trade tech and gotten like
your mechanic license.
Well, yeah, you already have it.

Mig (17:01):
Well, I mean, that's the thing it's like, then why Bother
wasting the money or anythingIf I'm already learning With my
dad.

David Na (17:06):
Right right.

Mig (17:07):
You know it's like so I was Trying to get away from that,
but it didn't work out.
So that was my fail safe.
I guess that's why I neverreally worried About it, cause
I'm like, well, if I don't makeit here and I'll just be a
mechanic.

Lano (17:24):
Yeah, and then me like in high school In high school I
wanted to be.

Mig (17:28):
I wanted to retire.

Lano (17:30):
I wanted to be an architect Because I used to like
draw and stuff.
I wanted to be an architect butI didn't get accepted to any
architect schools Like architectschools or like specialized
schools.

David Na (17:39):
I didn't make it.

Lano (17:42):
I was like going for USC school of architects, where they
only like.
Receive like 13 students A yearfor Damn.

Mig (17:48):
So then I went to Cal State , la.
I'm similar dude Cause like,even like In the little bit of
Traveling that I've done, I'malways in awe Of like seeing
structures and Right.
Buildings and just Things that.

Lano (17:59):
Museums.

Mig (17:59):
I'm always, always looking at that stuff things that have
been standing for like centuries, or even like 100 years or
whatever you know, and it alwaysamazes me I love stadiums and
arenas, like I'm just staring atthem to see how they're like
these massive things are yeah it.
It leaves me like dumbfounded.
It's like dude, it's like theybuilt this 200 years ago, you

(18:22):
know, with no machines by hand.
You know it's like how do theyknow that this is going to stay
together?
Like for me, like the ultimateis like a brick archway.
How, how did they figure thatout?
Yeah, you know.
How did they know that with thekeystone laying the brick in a

(18:43):
certain way or anything.
It's not going to fall.

Lano (18:45):
And the supports on the side and it's going to hold
Forever.

Mig (18:49):
That's always fascinated me , dude, and that's why when I
travel, I love going to placesthat has like old structures or
old buildings and everything,because I just sit there and
like I'm in awe.
You know what sit there andlike I'm in awe you know what.
That's why I thought like civilengineering would be a natural
transition for me, because youknow I could build a bridge.

(19:10):
You know I could design andbuild a bridge, or you know this
, that whatever, but yeah andthat's the same thing I did.

Lano (19:17):
I went, I switched to civil engineering at cal state.
I mean well, that's why I wentfor my major, thinking it was
gonna um be the same.
But then all my friends weredoing the general ed classes and
I'm in the engineering buildingby myself with all my friends
doing other stuff, so then itjust wasn't as fun.
Everybody's at the studio unionplaying pool.

David Na (19:37):
They had a bowling alley too, right Lano.

Lano (19:39):
I don't remember the bowling alley.
Yeah, there was a bowling alleydownstairs.

David Na (19:42):
Really, I think so.

Lano (19:45):
Damn the bowling alley.
Yeah, there was a bowling alleydownstairs really, I think so
am.
I never knew about the kingtaco and yeah, I know they had
pool tables and stuff down there.

David Na (19:49):
I don't know about a bowling alley, sure, or that was
fresno state, I don't know andthen I'm alone in the student
building.

Lano (19:54):
All my friends are, like you know, taking their classes
together.
You know what that?

David Na (19:56):
was a really cool student union the way they
designed it yeah it like it wasawesome.
You know, it was just like, andthey don't mean the only one
thing that was cool, though.

Mig (20:06):
I know what you're going to say I love the experience that
I had there and this is why Istuck around so long Was because
there was a program forminorities.
It was a minority engineeringprogram, mep.
What was it called?
Mep Minority EngineeringProgram and the dudes that I
made friends with there man, youtalk about homeboys that can

(20:28):
party dude.
Yeah, bro, that's where I got adegree in you almost graduated.

Lano (20:37):
I mean you're there for a while.
I didn't almost graduatebecause I was there for one year
, like you were there.

Mig (20:41):
I mean just going a couple, just because I was there for
like four years.

Lano (20:44):
It does not mean, you were there for four years yeah, dude
, but I kept failing my classesI had to keep taking classes
over and over.
I was nowhere near.
I just did one year, and thatwas it wait.
So how?

David Na (20:56):
many units did you complete?
Then you must have completedlike 40 at least maybe half that
.

Mig (21:01):
I don't know what was.
What was what was required tograduate?

David Na (21:04):
Like maybe 80 to 120 units.

Mig (21:06):
Okay, maybe then about 40.
Not bad Because I was passingeverything else except the core.
Wow, what my core majorrequired.

Lano (21:17):
The engineering stuff or the other stuff.

Mig (21:19):
Dude, the engineering, the physics, the chemistry, you know
the.

Lano (21:24):
So were you repeat classes .

Mig (21:25):
Like was it easier?
Yeah, you passed the time, orno?
No, and the thing is to gethelp any of those teacher's
aides and everything.
They're all a bunch of assholes.

Lano (21:38):
Were they younger people at the time.

Mig (21:40):
No, they're like almost your same age, maybe a little
bit older and they didn't wantto help you, or what?
No, it's like almost your sameage, maybe a little bit older,
and they wouldn't want to helpyou, or what no, it's like you
go up to them, you ask them aquestion.
Oh, you should know thatalready.
Wow, that's bad it's like dude,I don't.
That's why I'm asking you.

Lano (21:52):
Oh no, that's bad, that's terrible man.

Mig (21:55):
And then you get nothing but professors With.
You know they're foreign, youknow and they got.
They got really thick, heavyaccents, right, so difficult to
understand them that we're notexposed to.

Lano (22:05):
Yeah, we're not exposed to , you know.

Mig (22:07):
And I'm talking everything.
I'm talking like Asian, I'mtalking maybe like Middle
Eastern, you know, and maybeEastern European, you know, just
like such thick, heavy accentsand so difficult To understand
them, you know, it's like Idon't know how people pass dude,
it's like, unless you'renaturally gifted.
And you, you know the material,you know.

(22:30):
But I struggled so much I justI couldn't, you know, and and it
came to the point to where Iwas, I was getting grant money
to go to school and once thegrant money ran out, I'm like
you know what I'm not going toPull out loans and Right.
Get myself in debt To keep onfailing Right and that's it.
I'm done, dude, it's likeThey'll give you free money.

Lano (22:52):
Yeah, and it ran out.

Mig (22:55):
You know all the years that I was there, it ran out and I
was just like you know what.

Lano (22:59):
No, but the student loans, they'll just offer it to you.

David Na (23:03):
They don't care about it.
I'm still paying my.
It's not like you're qualifyingfor it.

Mig (23:07):
That's what I didn't want.
I didn't want to still bepaying them.
I said screw that.

David Na (23:12):
It's a pain in the ass man.

Mig (23:13):
I was like I guess I'm becoming a mechanic then.

Lano (23:15):
So you graduated from Cal State, la, david, or from where?

David Na (23:18):
From Cal State, la, with a bachelor's in English and
then I went to Fresno State gotyour masters.
Got a masters in education withan emphasis in reading and
language arts and a teachingcredential.
A single subject teachingcredential in English.

Lano (23:35):
And is that like that teaching credential?
I don't know nothing about it,but is that like from the state
or you?

David Na (23:39):
could teach anywhere.
Yeah, I could teach all overCalifornia.

Lano (23:42):
If you go to another state you have to get, like another
license, I think so, but I thinkthey might like honor ours, you
know.

David Na (23:48):
They might honor it in another state, and so, yeah, I
got those two things, man, andit takes like once you get the
credential, you're like, ok, Igot a credential, but you
actually have to do somethingcalled clearing it.
Where they got to come watchyou Like your master teacher has
to watch you see thatsomebody's got to come observe

(24:10):
you for like a year, and thenyou finally get it cleared, you
know.

Mig (24:14):
So still like you're interning or something.
Yeah, exactly Wow.

David Na (24:18):
For a year.
It takes a year or maybe twoyears Like probation.
Yeah, maybe one or two years,and then they finally clear it,
you know.

Mig (24:25):
Wow.

David Na (24:26):
So it's a big business man, you know.

Mig (24:31):
But look at you now, man, it's allowed you to travel.

Lano (24:35):
Travel the world Up on the screen.
I got a map of this is whereour viewers are.
Okay, where have you been Onthis map?
Because I know you do a bigtrip every year or every other
year, yeah, every year, you knowI've been to.

Mig (24:49):
I know you've been to South America.

David Na (24:50):
Yeah, I've been to South America, I've been to
Colombia and I've been to Peru,chile, no Peru Peru.
I love Peru, I love Colombia,they're great, you've been to
Europe.

Mig (24:59):
right, I've never been to Europe.
No, I thought you went to Italyor France or something.

David Na (25:05):
I never did.
I've been to Thailand, I'vebeen to Cambodia for three days,
oh that's right and I wanted togo to Vietnam, but they wanted
a what do you call it?
Some type of visa before youget there.
You know, you can't just walkinto Vietnam, you know.
Hey, I'm here I pay a fee.
They want you to have some typeof permission.

Lano (25:26):
So like where do you get that?

David Na (25:28):
So I was at a Thai Vietnamese embassy in Thailand
and they were just taking a longtime.
I go, oh, it'll be another fourhours.
I was just there.
Ah, you know what Screw it.
I'll come back and I'll go toVietnam.
So I just I got a bus to go toCambodia that time.

Lano (25:44):
But that, like, because I don't know the process, that's
how you get a visa.
I don't know how you get a visa.
Well, I don't know what it'scalled, but it's like a special
permission to go to the Vietnamconsulate or the US consulate?
I think it's.

David Na (25:58):
I don't remember exactly Lano, but it's a process
.
You know, like certaincountries like Japan, they make
you sign a little something andthen they let you in right away.
You know, but that countrydoesn't.
I don't think they let you injust like that.
They want to know who you are,you know, like Imagine that.

Lano (26:19):
And so like a visa.
Like is that?

Mig (26:22):
I want to know what that's like, because apparently here
there's a revolving door at theborder I'm sorry so I'm not like
a big traveler.

Lano (26:29):
I've been to the philippines but like I didn't
need to get a visa, so like avisa does what just allows you
to enter, allows you to do.
It's like a special permissionfor that country okay, something
like that if you're gonna bethere a certain number of days,
you have to get one, or itdoesn't matter.

David Na (26:41):
I think like 30 days or something.

Lano (26:43):
I don't know, oh, okay.

David Na (26:43):
I'm not sure I'm the last person to give you advice,
you know, I think you're right.

Mig (26:52):
I think different countries have they're either more
lenient Mexico.
They want to know.
You know, are you just going tobe like by the border?

David Na (26:59):
You know, are you going?

Mig (26:59):
to be there like a day or two or the weekend, or Are you
going to go all the way To, likecentral Mexico, you know?
Because if that's the case,then we need to know on your.

David Na (27:11):
Wait, they were asking you for that in Tijuana.
Whenever.

Mig (27:14):
Whenever With my ex, whenever we travel down there
and you got to fill out thoseforms.

Lano (27:20):
Oh cause you go deep in Mexico, huh.

Mig (27:21):
Yeah, cause, if you're going to fly over there like
cross the CBX right there in TJor in San Diego.
you got to fill out these formsand one of them's like pretty
much you're applying for a visato go into Mexico because you're
going to go visit somewherefurther than I think, like 20
miles or something from theborder I think that's what what

(27:42):
the requirement is, and you gotto fill out like an official
form and on that form you knowthey want to know what hotel
you're staying at they want theaddress you know.
They want to know how many daysyou're going to be there, what
days you're going to be there,from what to what you know and
it's a big old process, dude.

David Na (28:00):
You know what they did the same thing to me colombia
and medellin when we got to thethe border yeah they go what
hotel are you staying?
And I go.
Well, you know what?
I'm gonna go to a uh, certainneighborhood, which was el
poblado, and they're like okay,we need to know the name of the
hotel yeah and I go.
I just do things.
You know, I hopped on a planewith a buddy of mine.

(28:20):
I don't have anything planned,I don't have an itinerary, I'm
just going to do and they go gosit over there and you go pay
for a hotel.

Lano (28:28):
I'm serious, man, this is like customs, yeah, customs.
When you get there, that's thecustoms.

David Na (28:34):
In Colombia and I you know, I knew, and the country
was in spanish.
They're talking to you, yeah,they're talking to me in spanish
, but the everybody was cool,except that guy at that, one
border guy like uh customs.
He gave me a freaking hard time.
I even told my friend let's goback to the us, we don't gotta
go in here so this is alreadyafter you.

Lano (28:53):
You got there right and then yeah, to get out of the
airport.

David Na (28:55):
You're like no, so he sat us there and I didn't even
take my debit card because Ididn't want it to fall into
another hand, but luckily myphone had my information, so I
was able to book a hotel, youknow, okay.
And then I showed it to him andthen he let us go, man.
But you know that's not a, itwasn't a good impression of that

(29:16):
beautiful country.

Mig (29:18):
When.

David Na (29:18):
I first got there I go , but it it wasn't a good
impression of that beautifulcountry.

Mig (29:20):
When I first got there.
I go, but it's great.
Colombia was your latest tripat the beginning of this summer,
right.

David Na (29:24):
Yes, oh, this summer yeah.

Lano (29:27):
So tell us about Colombia.
How was Colombia?

David Na (29:29):
Oh man, beautiful, it was beautiful, it was great.

Mig (29:32):
How's the coffee.

David Na (29:34):
Good, really good you know what we did.
Yeah, we went to uh, a placewhere they make the coffee there
, you know uh-huh and uh, theseguys, they trained us in how to
be great.
Like coffee connoisseurs, like,uh, they tell you, um, like,
for example, nescafe orsomething right, right.

(29:56):
Or the coffee we drink, he saysthat has a lot of larvae and I
don't know what else, but theyburn it so much that it kills
all those, all that bacteria.

Lano (30:07):
Oh, like little bug larvae .
Yeah, okay, uh-huh.

David Na (30:11):
And then he said that the coffee that's like what do
you call it?
The lightest color, and that ithasn't been roasted deeply.
You know, that's the one thatthat's probably going to be the
most pure.
So you always want to look at,um uh, a dark roast or no, no,

(30:32):
like a lighter roast, but youwant to make sure that they they
don't uh, deep roast it, orthey they wash it too much, okay
, okay.

Mig (30:39):
That's what he said.

David Na (30:40):
And we were there and it was really cool.
They have this.
They get it from the pulp ofthe coffee bean, like the sugar
that comes out of it.

Mig (30:51):
Okay.

David Na (30:51):
And they made like this drink.
It was like a lemonade, theyput a little bit of sugar and it
was so delicious Really.

Mig (30:57):
Yeah.

David Na (30:58):
How come you guys don't sell this on the market?
You guys can make billions outof this, you know and did it
have like a coffee flavor or no?
No, it had like more like alemonade sweet flavor to it and
this is.

Lano (31:09):
You said it's from a coffee bean, or no?

David Na (31:11):
it's from a little coffee bean.
You know um, it was great man,it was amazing you don't
remember the name of?
It so.
So, no, I don, I don't remember, but I think the place we took
a tour and it was calledAredoros or something like that
Aredoras or something like that,and it's really great coffee

(31:34):
man.

Mig (31:36):
Normally, when you have coffee here, how do you take it?

David Na (31:40):
I put a little bit of milk and a little bit of sugar.
Sometimes I take like Nescafe.

Mig (31:47):
How did you drink it down there?

David Na (31:50):
They gave it to us like that, like black, and then
they gave us some other ones,like little Cups of coffee, and
they were delicious man.
With nothing in it, just thecoffee some of it was black,
some of it was sweet.

Mig (32:05):
I don't know what it was, but you see, because that that's
my thing, dude.
It's like I always say I don'tknow how people could drink
coffee black, because a lot oftimes the coffee we drink here,
if you try to drink it black,it's just like it's so bitter,
you know, but that goes to whatyou're saying.
You try to drink it black, it'sjust like it's so bitter, you
know, but that goes to whatyou're saying, you know, because
they over roast it yeah andthey burn it.

(32:25):
You know, and I'm thinking, youget a really good quality coffee
and you brew it and you shouldjust be able to drink it, just
like that.

Lano (32:35):
Yeah, and it'll be like without roasting, without no, no
, no, no without puttinganything oh yeah with no milk
with no sugar, nothing, no way.

David Na (32:43):
They said this too.
Uh, they said, and I bet youdon't do this make.
Uh, they said, why don't youheat up the milk with the coffee
and then pour them in at thesame time?

Mig (32:54):
oh, in mexico do we, did that all the time.
Yeah, but I don't see this no,yeah, I mean that's why they
call it cafe con leche.
Yeah, you know, and when we wereum, when we would go there as
kids, always in uhaguascalientes, with my aunt, my
tia maria, you know, we'dalways uh gather around the
kitchen.
It'd be like in the evening,you know it's like she started
warming up the milk.

(33:14):
She'd bring out the next cafe,you know, it's like she'd go
send someone to go get pan dulce, you know, and then they'd
bring out the Nescafe.
You know it's like she'd gosend someone to go get pan dulce
, you know, and then they'dbring it back and we'd just sit
around the kitchen table.
Dude, everybody had their cafécon leche.
You know you don't make it withwater.
You know you pour yourself yourwarm milk.
You put in like a spoon of theNescafe, which was like instant
coffee, and, dude, that was thebest.

David Na (33:41):
You know, with, with the pan dulce there and
everything.
Wow, yeah, oh yeah, that coffeeis good man coffee's, yeah, but
.

Mig (33:45):
But I mean that that that's that's like my whole thing,
that I've always wondered.
You know, it's like there'sgotta be like really good, high
quality coffee that is justgonna be superb and you don't
have to add nothing to it,because to me, finding a good
coffee like that is like findingyour favorite alcohol.
But like the top shelf Wow, youget that top shelf dude and you

(34:10):
don't mess it up puttinganything in it, and I feel
there's coffees out there thatare the same way.
I think you're right, but that'swhy you didn't you didn't like
have any coffee like that incolombia, like you didn't go to
any of the roasters or anythingand just have it just like that.

David Na (34:26):
This was like uh what do you call it a place where
they show you how, how they?
Uh plant the coffee and how theworkers take the coffee beans
out of the right out of the tree, so it was a very col place Is
Colombia, the number one coffeeexport.
I think so.
Yeah, because they're calledcafeteros.
Yeah, colombia, cafeteros deColombia.

Lano (34:47):
Like more than Guatemala and stuff.
I just know Guatemala becauseYancy used to get his beans from
Guatemala.

David Na (34:51):
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, but yeah, I wouldsay Colombia is probably the
best one, probably.

Lano (34:58):
You know, Italy is a big coffee country.
They get their beans fromColombia.

Mig (35:02):
I don't know, Maybe you know they have their espressos
and all that stuff.
Did they say the coffee beangrows in a certain climate?
Or something?

David Na (35:15):
Does it require a certain climate?
Yeah, I think so.
This place was away from thecity.
It was maybe like 30 miles outof the city and it was in in the
like cerros, you know, like,like like mountainous uh range
you know, and they where theyhad like uh, overcast, um, it
was overcast, cloudy, you know,and then the sun would come out,
so it had a little bit ofeverything of climate you know.

Lano (35:36):
So it was, uh, really great coffee I'm on wikipedia
and it says colombia is one ofthe five largest producers of
the world of coffee, avocadosand palm oil the other four, you
gotta be guatemala right one ofthem probably.
Yeah, it doesn't.
It didn't give me a list, butthis says yeah, so sugar king,

(35:56):
bananas, pineapple, cocoa, butyeah yeah, the food is delicious
right there in colombia.

David Na (36:01):
Man like what?

Mig (36:02):
what like local?
What local stuff do they havethat like we haven't heard of?
Well, they have a thing calledtried was good what?

David Na (36:11):
I didn't try it, but my friend did.
It's called bandeja de paisaokay, and it has I think, like a
piece of sausage and a piece ofmeat and rice and beans.
It's really good, man, and Itried something.
It was like chicken, roastedchicken with rice and these

(36:33):
sweet beans and a salad whatelse did it have?
And it was so good, guess howmuch I'm probably like three
bucks wow, you're close.
It was like five dollars, whichis uh, okay I believe it's like
20 000 colombia pesos okay andit was so delicious, man, I you
know like a king, like a kingwell, we're at a mcdonald's over

(36:55):
there, megan, uh, or or likelike, uh, a combo.
It was like like six or sevenbucks.
So we sat there and we juststarted figuring out dude, we
had like two of those combos.
You know all these Big Macs,you know we're just like what's
uh, what's um what?

Mig (37:11):
what city it's?
A pretty big city Pretty big,beautiful.

David Na (37:17):
Yeah, beautiful city.

Mig (37:19):
What's the street food scene like, like, what's their
street food.
Oh man, you know you go toMexico and you got taco stands
everywhere.

David Na (37:27):
Yeah, Over there, you know what.

Lano (37:28):
Like they eat tacos and burritos.
No, huh.

David Na (37:30):
No, they Eat like Platano fritos.

Lano (37:34):
Okay.

David Na (37:35):
And then they have this, this pan, and I was
tripping out when the lady toldme I hope I don't offend anybody
, but it's called pan cerrote.

Mig (37:45):
Okay.

David Na (37:45):
And it has like bacon and sausage and cheese.
It's delicious, you know.
It's baked into it, or theyjust like cut the bread open and
so it's inside of it, so like Iguess they make it and they put
it in there, you know.

Mig (37:58):
So they bake it in yeah of it.

Lano (37:59):
so like I guess they make it and they put it in there, you
know.
So they bake it in, yeah, oh,okay, like a ham and cheese
croissant, like yeah, exactly oh, yeah, that sounds good.

David Na (38:04):
Yeah, then they have like these little potatoes
little oh, they were sodelicious.
Man, little ones, you're justlike man.
You can have like six or sevenof them because the the time
that you went to peru.

Mig (38:14):
Did you ever have that?
Uh, lomo saltado I didn't nodamn dude should have you know,
that's what.

Lano (38:20):
That's what I ordered when I was in peru.
Yeah, I think that's like thenational, like dish right there
dude.

David Na (38:25):
No, they eat a lot of chicken and french fries.
I remember that yeah in peru itwas delicious, but colombia the
food is great, mick, and it'scheap and it's amazing you know,
is there here any colombianrestaurants that compare?

Mig (38:41):
no, I don't know I don't matter, I haven't seen I'm sure
there are, but you would have tolook, I think maybe a pico
rivera, maybe, yeah so, oh, picorivera, pico union, pico rivera
no pico rivera.

Lano (38:51):
There's a, there's a big community of colombianos right
there oh, I didn't, I didn'tknow that yeah, but um now, when
you're out there, um, becauseyou're you're bilingual, you
speak spanish uh-huh you canmeet everybody speaking spanish.
Or do people know english?
Because I always ask that,because I don't.

David Na (39:08):
I only know english when I travel, like well, you
know what, like, we went on acouple of tours and the tour
guides believe it or not, Idon't mean, I don't mean to
sound um like I I disparaginganybody, but the tour guides
that gave us these tours, theirEnglish was almost perfect, it
was flawless.
You could understand what theywere saying, you know.
And on the other hand andplease don't get offended, but,

(39:31):
for example, when I'm taking aflight in Mexico and the pilot
tries speaking English, I can'tunderstand usually what he's
saying Thank you very much forflying with us.
But when the Columbia pilotstalk English, when they speak
English, I can understandclearly what they're saying.

Mig (39:49):
I was going to say dude I think that's just pilots in
general dude, because when I'veflown, dude, and they start
talking, these dudes talk likethey're walking to the subway.

Lano (39:59):
What.

Mig (40:07):
What the hell did these guys say I'm serious dude, the
times I've flown dude, that'swhat they sound like.
I was like whatever dude, Idon't know.
Just don't crash the plane,just get us there.

Lano (40:23):
What airline did you fly?
Oh, the best one.
What was that?

David Na (40:26):
The smoothest ride.
It was amazing.
It was American Airlines.
You know what's a trip.
I don't know if you guys willbelieve this, but my friend and
I were on the plane and in theplane and I was tripping out,
but the plane, it looked like itwas just there was a point like
where we're getting into Miamiand maybe like 30 minutes before

(40:50):
we got to Miami, the plane,just it looked like it stopped
in midair and it was justfloating there.
And I looked at my friend.
I go, dude, are we like movingor not?
And he's just like no, I thinkwe're just kind of like floating
here and there.
And I go it, because nothingseemed like nothing seemed to be
moving.
I go, that's kind of weird.
But those pilots were great.
They landed the plane likereally smoothly and I even told

(41:13):
them I saw them after.
Uh, when we got off the planeand we missed our next flight,
we had a flight flight that wasgoing to go straight to Colombia
.
And we go, hey, you guys flewthat plane like really smoothly,
the landing was great, thankyou, and they were all like
grateful, you know.

Lano (41:32):
So you flew from LAX right .

David Na (41:34):
Uh-huh To Miami so.

Lano (41:35):
LAX to Miami and then go down to Colombia.

David Na (41:37):
Yeah.

Lano (41:39):
Because you always think like it's South America, you
just go straight down, but it'sactually like Further east.

David Na (41:44):
I'm looking at the map right now.

Lano (41:45):
Well, you know, like even right there, from Guatemala.

David Na (41:49):
From Guatemala you could.
They always go to Miami A lotof times, you know.

Lano (41:54):
But it's closer yeah.

David Na (41:56):
And it's because I'm taking American Airlines, so
it's like that's like a big hubfor them, you know.

Lano (42:02):
Like one of their big hubs For Central America.

David Na (42:04):
Uh-huh, and you know so I always end up in Miami, you
know, for some reason.

Lano (42:10):
You know, and yeah so every, you said everybody know
they speak mostly um spanish,but like the tourists, the host,
they speak english yeah, theyspeak english.
They speak both, you know justbecause, um, the only
international place I've been tois um the philippines because
my wife's filipina, but, um, Iwas very worried about the

(42:31):
language, like not being able totalk, but over there in the
philippines everybody spokeenglish good yeah, that's
Spanish right, well, yeah, Imean they're.
Tagalog has similar words LikeSpanish.

David Na (42:43):
Uh huh.

Lano (42:44):
But yeah, I mean I was.
I could go to any place, orderfood Shopping, I could wander
around myself and speak English.

David Na (42:50):
And how safe was it Like walking around there?

Lano (42:53):
Oh, it was very safe.

David Na (42:54):
Man, I would love to go to the Philippines and my
wife.

Lano (42:56):
She's um, like she's gone to europe and and she says
europe's like dangerous reallybut the philippines, the
philippines or, she said, europe.
There's a lot of likepickpocketers and stuff.
You always have to be lookingaround watch oh, wow yeah, but,
um, but in the philippines, likeI didn't, I didn't have any.
Um, I mean everything look.
I mean no scares or nothing,everything looked like legit,
that's cool.

David Na (43:16):
That's cool to know.
I want to go back.
I love you.
Know that time I was there InSoutheast Asia it's going to be
almost 10 years.
In 2026 It'll be 10 years Damnthat long.
Yeah, because I was Teaching ata college and I remember I'm
going to go somewhere thissummer and that's when I decided
to go.

Mig (43:34):
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, I was, I think, at.

David Na (43:36):
Compton and what do you call it.
I ended up going there.
It's going to be 10 years, so Iwant to go back and maybe
explore, like the othercountries, like Laos and Burma,
you know, but they don't call itBurma anymore, they call it
Mayanar, right?

Lano (43:52):
Yeah, yeah Right, they recently switched.

David Na (43:54):
Yeah, yeah Right, they recently switched like with the
last TV, but you know why theyswitched that name you know why
they switched it Like a war orsomething.

Lano (43:57):
No or no.

David Na (43:58):
No, because remember when Rambo came out with that
movie.

Mig (44:00):
Yeah.

David Na (44:00):
Rambo 4?
I think they switched itbecause of that, remember,
because they had that stigma, Inever saw that movie.

Lano (44:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

David Na (44:12):
Right, that's one of my favorite ones.
Yeah, crazy.

Lano (44:16):
But, um, this is crazy Cause, like you know, if you
know anything, um, or follow thelike the the Vietnam war, like,
um, like whole cities, likecapitals, like they change names
, like they, just like, I thinkthe Capitol, you know, the
Capitol of Vietnam, is a Saigon,but after the war it became Ho
Chi Minh City.

David Na (44:35):
Oh, ho Chi Minh, okay.

Lano (44:36):
Where, like you know, people grow up in Saigon and
then all of a sudden Justswitches names.
Wow.

David Na (44:40):
Like changes like history yeah.

Lano (44:43):
And so it's just weird.
But how are the the ColombiansLike?
Are they nice?
Like when you're a traveler?
Are you Like when they saywhere you're from, you say
you're American, or you sayyou're Mexican?

David Na (44:55):
Well, you know what they knew?
I was Mexican.
I'm going to tell you why.
And I knew the tourists thatwere there.
The majority no, it's one thing, the majority of them in my
hotels were Mexican, Becausewhen you're Colombian, you know
how they say good morning, theysay buen dia, and a Mexican
always says buenos dias and I gothis guy's mexican just by the

(45:19):
way, he greeted me and therewere a lot of mexicans down
there.

Mig (45:22):
You know that's funny because, um, even even in mexico
, dude, it's like differentregions have their different
dialects and everything, and um,I remember someone pointing out
to me.
You know, they told me it waslike, isn't it?
Zacatecas.
And I'm like how did you knowthat it was my mama?
You know, it was like how didyou know?

(45:43):
It's like pues, porque dicemamá.

David Na (45:45):
Yeah.

Mig (45:50):
Yeah, and I guess that's like something like in Zacatecas
.
You know the other places.
I don't know if they say madreor you know, or whatever you
know.
Oh to say madre, or oh, wow, oryou know, or whatever you know.
But oh, that's very interesting.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Lano (46:01):
So it's like it's regional .

Mig (46:03):
You know that's cool.
Everywhere it's like they'lldon't know exactly where you're
from.

David Na (46:07):
They'll know just by looking at you make you know,
like the way you're dressed.
They go this guy's not fromaround here I could do it.

Mig (46:14):
I get that right away.

David Na (46:15):
You would think my mom's just like like, like a
nickname like mommy, mom, mother, like it's just, yeah, I guess,
so huh yeah, you know, like um,I was in michoacan and I want
to go visit a place called lagopascuaro and I had some
enchiladas right there and Ireally great food in michoacan,
the best you.
You will love it, you will loveit.

(46:36):
And I was sitting down there inthe plaza by myself and these
guys are just all staring at me,but in a good way, not in a bad
way, you know, but they couldtell I'm not from there, what
the app?
I'm taller than most of them,right?

Lano (46:50):
And then I guess, oh are they.
Are they smaller?

Mig (46:52):
well, a lot of them in.
Uh, I was talking about when hewas dimitri khan.
Yeah, some of them.

David Na (46:57):
I don't want to stereotype, but some of them uh,
there's a lot of.
At least where my dad's from,there's a lot of like indigenous
roots, right there so sothey're a little darker and a
little shorter, you know, but um, it's, it's great man, great
food man, the best so no, that's, that's cool.

Lano (47:15):
I mean, since I've known you, you've been like, um well,
since you got out school you'vebeen traveling a lot.
That's, that's pretty cool yeah, I got.

David Na (47:22):
I got a little bit of uh adhd, so I got to travel
somewhere every year yeah,that's cool, right?

Mig (47:27):
you just experience a lot of stuff you gotta go, I do it.
I want to go with you one ofthese years, just go man just go
.

David Na (47:33):
Yeah, see if I can carve out some time from work
dude, just Just even like a weekman, it'll change your life.

Mig (47:38):
Well, that's what I'm saying, dude.
It's tough for me to get like awhole week because, well, it's
only me and my brother.
You don't want to leave justone person you know in charge,
but I mean, no, I would love toget away for a week.

Lano (47:53):
So this is a.

David Na (47:58):
Or even just like Maybe like four or five days.
Yeah, that's all you need.
You don't need to stay thereFor like three weeks.

Lano (48:01):
This is something you get bored after ten days man.
That I've been wanting to do.
But, like, you have to find theright group.
But, like there was thisYouTube follower I used to
follow, he had, like he calledit, his Like vacation I don't
know if it was His friends orclub, but like, every year, like
, let's say, it's a group oflike 10 people or 5 people and
each year one person or onecouple would plan the trip.

(48:24):
So you would just tell yourfriends like block out the days.
You know, september 20th toSeptember 30th we're going on a
trip and then, like a weekbefore, you tell them, like, how
to dress, like hot climate,like cold climate or whatever,
and then bring a passport andbring it yeah, bring a passport
and then, um, so that one setsup the trip, buys all the
tickets, the airline, the hotels, all that stuff, and then, um,

(48:46):
I mean I'm sure everybody givesthem money up front, like, let's
say, this trip's gonna cost,like like I don't know, I'm just
throwing out a grand, orwhatever yeah like.
so then nobody knows wherethey're going until they get to
the airport and see where thetickets are.
And every year, like they dothat Like one person has a trip.

David Na (48:59):
That's fun, dude.
That's anticipation, right?

Lano (49:01):
So then you go and you travel to this new country like
every year, like someone plannedit, like you know all the
whatever the excursions aregoing to do.
But I always wanted to dosomething like that seemed like
cool.
Like you don't know whereyou're going to get to the
airport then, like you're justwith a bunch of friends, like

(49:21):
ready to spend a week with them,whatever this new adventure and
stuff, and then they would likefilm the whole trip.
But I just thought it was likea cool concept, cool idea I
wanted to do that cool conceptlike you're.
Oh, we're going tropical, likepack this or this and that, or
blah blah, and then we get tothe airport, we're going to
thailand, or whatever we'regonna, you know I was that.

Mig (49:38):
That's the thing, though dude, david's all gung-ho gonzo
balls out doing it, though, dude, because he doesn't book rooms
or nothing, man, he just yeah hejust worries about getting
there well, that'll be his idea,he worries about finding
somewhere to stay after you knowwhat?

David Na (49:53):
I think I'm gonna have to uh I don't think I could do
that.
You know what I think I'm goingto have to book rooms, maybe
the first three days of whereverI get, because it is a pain in
the ass, meg, to Once you'rethere.
Once you're there, Like excuseme, do you have a vacancy?

Mig (50:07):
Yeah.

David Na (50:08):
And then you know what , as a traveler, this is what I
always do I'm going to rent me.

Lano (50:18):
Oh really.

David Na (50:19):
Yeah, look at the toilet, look at if the AC works,
check under the bed, checkeverything.
You know because I was inCambodia one time, and what do
you call it.
I got there and I asked the guy, my tuk-tuk driver, I go, do
you recommend a hotel?
And he took me to a friend ofhis and I'm not going to say the

(50:39):
hotel, but they were reallysweet people and I opened the
bathroom and the bathroom in thetub there was like a huge gash
and it smelled like sewage.
And I go, wow, you know what?
Like a hole yeah like a big holelike a big line like a big hole
, like a big line, like a bigopening crack in the tub and I

(50:59):
saw, like man, that looks likesewage.
But I go, but this is a thirdworld country, so it must be
like that.
That's my first assumption.
Right and at night the ACdidn't work so I had a smell put
up with sewage fumes.
I couldn't take it.
I was dying.
That's nasty, yeah, so at aboutlike, and then the heat, because
it was very yeah, and at aboutfour or five in the morning I

(51:22):
think it was five in the morningI told the guy you know what,
I'm not gonna stay here anothernight.
Um, can I get my passport?
He gave me my passport, Iwalked, I learned the lesson.
After that I got a look at thehotel before I rent it.
So, um, I went three, threedoors down and there was a
beautiful hotel, like withelephants I still remember

(51:43):
elephants outside.
It was in cm reap statues orlike statues and right outside
the hotel and the place had likean ac, it had a pool and the
floors were spotless man.
And you know what the price wasfor that place?
I paid $50, because thecurrency in Cambodia is American
money.
And guess how much I paid inthat nice hotel with elephants?

Lano (52:06):
$50?
Is that what you said?
Exactly, $50.
Oh wow.

David Na (52:09):
So it was the same thing, but a much better, more
luxurious, cleaner, you know.

Mig (52:13):
So Cambodia, their currency is dollars.

David Na (52:16):
Yeah it's dollars.

Mig (52:17):
Really cleaner, you know so cambodia, their, their currency
is dollars.
Yeah, it's dollars really.

Lano (52:18):
Yeah, wow, american money yeah so okay, um, cambodia, like
, is a neighbor of vietnam orpart of vietnam it's like it's
around there.

Mig (52:30):
Yeah, it's in the area, so I think it's in the middle like
I don't know the vietnam war,who was fighting who?

Lano (52:36):
Because I had asked someone and they got offended
Like I'm not, I'm from.
She had said I'm going.
Well, it's my hairstyle.
She said she was going backhome and I thought she was
Vietnamese, but then she went toCambodia.
But she.

Mig (52:48):
Then I asked her she's like no, I'm Vietnamese.
All those countries Are lumpedtogether Like Vietnam, cambodia,
la Cambodia, laos.

Lano (52:54):
Great Laos so.
I don't know if the borderschanged over the years, you know
what you know.

David Na (53:01):
In the old days I saw this over there the Cambodians
were attacked and they had likegenocide there, like during the
70s, I believe, by Pol Pot.
And A lot of them died and itwas like Really brutal deaths,
you know.
And then I don't know what thewhole deal with vietnam was.
I think vietnam was trying to.
I don't know, I'm not gonna sayanything you know, but there's

(53:24):
been a lot of uh, a lot of sadthings that have happened in
those countries yeah but thepeople are great, man, you go to
cambodia and the people are sofriendly.
Man, I don't think I've goneanywhere where the people are
just like like that friendly andthey're funny too.
They're like excuse me, sir,can you give me some money?
I like some rice to eat.

(53:45):
They're like it just busts youup, dude.
It makes you like laugh.
You know, right, that's funny,right.
And yeah, they were realgenuine in Cambodia.
I loved it there.
I went to Angkor Wat.
It's right in the jungle, it'sawesome you got to.
It's like permits before the.
Cambodians, you got to check itout.
Man, you got to Dude, I don'tbut those tropical places, dude.

Mig (54:07):
I mean with heat and humidity, dude, I will not do
good there.
What?

Lano (54:12):
I thought the Philippines all suffered, but it wasn't that
bad as I thought.
But maybe I went in February, Idon't know oh, that's why it
was a, but people were warningme watch out, you're gonna be
humid sticky just like thatstory that you're saying about
that first room that you rented.

Mig (54:25):
Oh, dude, I would've been so pissed off, dude, if there
was like no AC or something.

David Na (54:32):
Yeah, there, I don't even think the TV worked.
To be honest with you, I don'tcare about that.

Lano (54:36):
Was the room the same price, 50 bucks?
The guy charged me 50 bucks,the same as the one with the
elephant.

Mig (54:41):
Yeah, 50 bucks Because you just sleep in your own pool of
sweat and everything dude.
It was terrible man.

David Na (54:47):
And then on top of that, you don't have nowhere to
shower, often no, and the sewageWell, yeah, the smell, yeah, it
was like oh my gosh, and but Iloved it there, man, and you
know I went to a couple of, uh,like the tuk-tuk driver took,
took me around, uh and tuk-tukis like a truck right like a
little jeep like no, it's like amotorcycle and it has like a

(55:09):
bicycle, right?
no, kind of no, it's like amotorcycle and it has a carriage
attached to it so they couldcarry you, they could travel you
around, so it's like a tuk-tuk.

Lano (55:21):
Oh, this thing, I have it on the screen Like one of these,
yeah there you go.

Mig (55:27):
It's kind of like a tri-motorcycle.

David Na (55:30):
Tuk-tuk Cambodia.
It's different.
Let's see Cambodia C-A-M no, no.
C-a-m no no.

Lano (55:42):
C-A-M Like this no.

David Na (55:43):
Yeah, like that.
See that one.
Like with the motorcycle.

Lano (55:48):
Yeah, so it has like a trailer hitch.
Yeah, exactly A motorcycle witha trailer hitch on the cabin.

David Na (55:53):
It's really cool man.

Lano (55:58):
It's very safe, you know so you said you asked the driver
, the motorcycle driver, like,tell me where to stay, or eat.

David Na (56:04):
Yeah and no, I had this guy.
He was really cool.
He was just taking me aroundthat night and I was going
through these streets that Ididn't even know and I remember,
man, this place looks liketijuana.
That's the first thing Ithought.
I go, I'm back in tijuanathat's what cambodia looks like
you know, and how much is one ofthose tuk-tuk rides it's cheap,

(56:24):
man, like five, five bucks,five, ten bucks, you know and
you're just paying them cash.

Lano (56:28):
You know like it's not like a bus pass or like anything
, right?

David Na (56:31):
yeah, so he took me and I I told him like um, I want
you to take me to a coupleplaces at night and then how
much will you charge me?
And he was just like 20 bucksI'm just throwing a number, I
forgot how much it is and theywere really cool like that.
You know They'll wait for youLike they're.
You know they're very honestpeople.

Lano (56:53):
Oh, they'll sit there and wait for, you.
Yeah, they'll wait for you.

David Na (56:58):
Because I went to At Kerouac and my tuk tuk driver
but I was asleep Somewhere in Inthe jungle and I go, I'm not,
he's not gonna be here when Iget back.
And he was there Like lyingdown and he goes hey, let's go
back.
And he was really cool man.

Mig (57:11):
Yeah, that's cool when you find like Locals, like that,
that'll hook you up.
Because I remember when, um,when I went to the f and um, you
know, me and my ex and we werein the hotel and she, um, you
know we wanted to go tour thepyramids and you know we were,
we were checking out the toursat the hotel offered or whatever

(57:31):
, but then, um, expensive, likeone of one of the workers are
told is like hey, I know someone, you know that he'll come.
and instead of you being likehey, I know someone, you know
that he'll come, and instead ofyou being in a group, it could
just be you guys, you know, andthat way you guys can move like
around the lot faster and likehave more to enjoy.
I know you pay him so much andhe'll be with you the whole day.

David Na (57:52):
How much did he charge you?

Mig (57:53):
I forgot it.
It might've been like 40 bucks.

David Na (57:58):
And you went to 30, 40 , 50 bucks.

Mig (57:59):
Yeah it was great right dude, awesome, so awesome you.

David Na (58:03):
You know who went there too.
You'll trip out.
Uh, you know, he just diedrecently.
I saw pictures of him is ozzyosbourne oh, yeah, he visited
and you know, trip, trip out onthis.
And then I found an olderpicture of Jim Morrison visiting
Totiwakan in the 60s.

Lano (58:21):
Speaking of celebrities, David's famous for being in the
Under the Bridge video indowntown LA.
That's good.

Mig (58:28):
I'm looking at Anand and there's rumors that he's in that
video.

David Na (58:35):
That East LA video I'm not in.

Mig (58:38):
I'm looking at it Because, being from Boyle Heights, I
heard that William and Tabu Gaveyou a cameo.
Well, we'll talk about thatRight now you said you're homies
With them.

David Na (58:47):
Well, I'm looking at William's cool man.

Lano (58:49):
You could rent a Tuk Tuk for like a day.
This is where you were right,anger what anchor why?
Yeah, you can write one andkeep it, I guess oh, really
quick, let me finish my my story.

Mig (58:58):
So, um, this dude, he takes us to the pyramids, you know,
and so he's.
He says you know, it's like youguys go ahead, enjoy whatever,
and I'll be here, you know, it'slike, when you guys want to,
you know, if you guys want toeat, you know, then just come
back and I'll take you somewhereto go eat.
So we're there, I'm trying toclimb these pyramids, dude, and
I'm dying, dude, because I'm Forone.

(59:19):
I mean, I wasn't in terribleshape, but the altitude there,
dude, that thing makes youthat's a gut check.

Lano (59:26):
This is Cancun right, or where is?

Mig (59:27):
it.
No, no, mexico City, totiwakan,oh, oh yeah, it's like the
highest point in Mexico.

David Na (59:33):
They have pyramids there.

Mig (59:34):
Yeah, and they have permits there.
Yeah and um and yeah, dude theywere.
They're even like young peoplethere.
They were like in shape, tryingto run up those pyramids.
They were getting winded, dude,because the air is so thin, you
know it's like you can'tbreathe well anyway.
So then, like we, we wentthrough everything pretty quick
and we got hungry, you know,because we left early.
We left, we left like maybelike at six in the morning and

(59:56):
so we, we saw a lot of the stuffand we went back and the driver
was like, oh yeah, you guys aredone.
And we're like well, yeah,we're hungry, we want to go eat,
you know, and he starts tellingus he's like oh, he goes.
Well, if we drive down a littlebit, you know, there's like
these restaurants, you know withthe in the hotels, this or

(01:00:17):
whatever, and my ex she's likeno, no, no, no, donde vas a
comer, tu you know where wouldyou go eat Right?
no, that's a good question, youknow, and he was like pues,
acabo de almorzar, you know,pero acá, pero no sé si let's go
, dude, take it sir.
No, that's good.

Lano (01:00:37):
That's good we went dude.

Mig (01:00:42):
And I tell you the best freaking birria not birria on
Balbacore, wow, but the borrego.
Because I don't like borregodude, because it's funky and
nobody ever makes it right.

David Na (01:00:58):
When you take a shit it smells bad, right, but this
place where he took us to dude.

Mig (01:01:03):
This place has like dedicated pits to where they're
cooking the stuff.
Wow, and it was amazing, dude.
You get there and they serveyou like for like an appetizer,
where places serve you likechips and salsa, well, they
serve you a taco just to likepick your hunger, you know, to

(01:01:25):
get you picado and shit.
Yeah, man, you know it, girl.
And yeah, dude, but the bestfreaking barbacoa I've ever had,
dude, wow, it was incredible.
You still remember that place.
I don't remember what it'scalled, but the best freaking
barbeque I've ever had, dude,wow, it was incredible.

David Na (01:01:39):
You still remember that place.

Mig (01:01:40):
I don't remember what it's called, but you could find it.
Maybe I don't know.

Lano (01:01:48):
So I have the pyramids on the screen.
That's the one you went to.

David Na (01:01:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of them in there.
There's a lot of them, five orsix of them, yeah.

Lano (01:01:57):
Because my mom she went to some pyramids, and she says it
was like hot, and then there waslike Metal chains.
There was like metal chains andshe said you couldn't even
Touch the chain Cause it was sohot.

Mig (01:02:02):
Yeah, cause even they even have like a huge, like a walkway
.
They said it used to be themarketplace Back Back in the In
the heyday of the thecivilization.

Lano (01:02:16):
That's pretty cool.
You got pictures of that andstuff.

David Na (01:02:19):
Yeah, you know where they have great pyramids In
Guatemala, tikal, and it cameout of Star Wars Like the
pyramids.

Lano (01:02:29):
Which one?
You know which one which movie.

David Na (01:02:32):
One of the newest.
Look up Guatemala pyramids,Star Wars, You'll find it.
And they're amazing, man, Like.
They're really tall, you know.
Like.

Lano (01:02:44):
So you went to.
You've been to Guatemala, then,right.

David Na (01:02:49):
Yeah, I've been there a couple times, I love it, and
I've been to El Salvador too.

Lano (01:02:54):
Oh yeah, look at these, look at.

Mig (01:02:56):
Oh Tripon.

Lano (01:02:58):
You would think that's CG.
I guess back then they didn'thave CG yeah.

Mig (01:03:01):
Look at how tall they are man.

David Na (01:03:03):
Yeah, way above the tree like yeah, I think I went
up that one, you know, causethere's a way like an entrance
through the sides.

Lano (01:03:11):
That's crazy, because it's so narrow, like it's a
different style of pyramids.

David Na (01:03:16):
Yeah, it's different right.
It's more like Mayan rightMayan yeah.

Lano (01:03:23):
So, fresno, you came back to California.
Well, I guess you're alwaysCalifornia LA, so where are you
staying at?
Now?
I'm in East LA.
East LA, like your own place,or you're with your mom.

David Na (01:03:33):
No, I'm still with my mother and sister.

Lano (01:03:36):
That's the Project Estrada .

David Na (01:03:39):
No, I don't live there anymore in the Projects.
No, I'm living in East LA in ahouse.

Lano (01:03:44):
Oh, I think I've been there.
We went to see the dogs.

David Na (01:03:46):
That's right, you were there, I went there.

Lano (01:03:48):
Okay, so I just bring it up, because we talked about East
LA, so you knew William.
He was from the same place.
Yeah, I knew that's a truestory.

David Na (01:03:57):
Yeah, that's, really true I knew him growing up.

Lano (01:03:59):
He grew up there over there.

David Na (01:04:09):
He grew up in the projects a lot.
You know he would walk aroundLike with a cane.

Lano (01:04:14):
Like this is when you were younger, or this is after, this
is before he was big, or whilehe was big.

David Na (01:04:18):
After Before he was big, you know this was like In
the old days, you know.
When we're like, smaller, youknow, than teenagers.
Maybe, Up until freshman orsophomore year.
I saw him around there, youknow, and you went to Garfield.

Lano (01:04:32):
You went to Roseville.

David Na (01:04:32):
No, I went to Salesian .
Oh, I forgot about you went toSalesian.
Yeah, we're rivals, you and I.

Lano (01:04:36):
We're rivals.
I could see you.
You're Salesian, I forgot.

David Na (01:04:39):
Yeah, but he's a good guy man.
Well, I am.

Lano (01:04:43):
And what did you think when you heard the song?
Because I sent it to you, right?

David Na (01:04:49):
No, I heard it.
I don't know how I came aboutit, but I clicked on it and I go
, wow, this is pretty cool andhe shows the projects right
there right, oh yeah, the wholething was filmed there dude
Right.

Lano (01:05:01):
Yeah, and do you feel like it represents East LA or Boa
Heights?
I think it's more like BoaHeights, right?

David Na (01:05:10):
Yeah, I know it's called East LA, you know, but I
know there's always been thatargument, like the Indiana
Olympic, anything south is thatright or north, like after you
go from Indiana to, let's say,Atlantic is that considered
south or north, south, south.
South.

Lano (01:05:31):
Yeah.

David Na (01:05:32):
So then anything south , like from right there, that's
where the borders start, sothat's really where East LA
starts, right, but anythingnorth would be Boyle Heights,
you know.

Lano (01:05:39):
But but Boyle Heights is just like LA City.
Yeah, and outside of LA City isEast LA, which is run by the
county.

David Na (01:05:45):
Officially, but I guess when they have a lot of
mexicanos, you know, theyconsider it.
Oh, it's east la, you know, butit's a cool place, man, it has
a lot of history.
You know all those movies, youknow and how was it um like
growing up in in estrada?

Lano (01:06:03):
estrada was it like dangerous or it was dangerous,
like you, got hit up every dayor no.
I, like you, took a bus toschool or they dropped you off
at salesian I would walk, Iwould or I would take the, the
rtd.

David Na (01:06:14):
It was called rtd yeah , the bus, the rough tough and
dirty I would take the rtd anduh, sometimes I would get rides
from uh friends, you know.
But it was, it was nice, it wascool, it was beautiful, like
the, the sun, the way, the waythe sun would hit the windows.
It was nice, you know.
But and then it was coolbecause a lot of people,

(01:06:37):
everything's close together, alot of these apartments, so you
talk to a lot of the people, youmake friends, you know, that's
what I was gonna say.
Like your neighbors were coolwith yeah, everybody was cool
with each other and yeah, peoplewere cool around there, like
they have any problems, likewith the assays around there or
anything Nah.

Lano (01:06:52):
How many years were you there, Like?

David Na (01:06:53):
10 years.
First 10 years or 15 years, oh,no more.
Like I think I was in my late20s when I finally moved out you
know, oh, so you grew up thereyeah, there, hardcore, you know.
And my sister, um, she bought ahouse in montebello and she
goes I'll rent her, I'll rentyour room and I go, nah, I don't
really want to leave theprojects, you know, and it was

(01:07:14):
only like five miles down, youknow right.
But I still win, you know.
But I it's home, I pass bythere sometimes you know, yeah,
it's still home.
I have a lot of memories of alot of places right there, you
know so um what would yourecommend?

Lano (01:07:30):
because um once a month meanwhile we go to ball heights
like olympic and we'll get, likewe'll get some food out there
okay um what?
What places you recommend toeat in ball heights?

David Na (01:07:38):
well, my favorite place to eat I just took my dad
here for his birthday is, uh,taqueria, la estrella, the star
taco restaurant, but it's calledla estrella taqueria.

Lano (01:07:49):
Is that different From, like the LA taco trucks, the
ones?

David Na (01:07:51):
over here, go there To La Estrella.

Lano (01:07:54):
Is that the same chain or different?

David Na (01:07:56):
No, it's different.
It's probably different.
Yeah, where's that at?
Where's that at?
It's right there by the LorenaPharmacy.

Lano (01:08:02):
Oh, right there.

David Na (01:08:03):
It's like maybe a block Before.

Mig (01:08:04):
Oh right, like be a block before.
Oh right, like on Lorena andWhittier.

David Na (01:08:06):
Yeah, right there, but a block before.

Lano (01:08:08):
Because we'll go there to get, like we'll go to that
pharmacy at the park and I'llget some churros.
Oh yeah, we got a lady thatsets up some churros there.

Mig (01:08:13):
She's still there.
I haven't been there in a while.
Hey, do you guys still go there?

David Na (01:08:15):
to that place Semillas to get those semitas.

Lano (01:08:29):
You know, year ago I went there because I was like really
craving one, and I ordered itjust the same.
It tastes the same, that's whatscared me.
I want to go, but I, like youknow, and I tell rick, I don't
know, dude, maybe I didn't orderit right, or maybe a different
cook, no it just it didn't hitme like when the times that
we've gone I haven't had one ina while, so I gotta go, but
that's like yeah, I wasdisappointed though.

Mig (01:08:50):
It was good, but it wasn't what I remember.
It wasn't phenomenal, yeah.

Lano (01:08:56):
No, because I remember like it was like it's between a
burger and a torta, but it waslike better than both of them.

David Na (01:09:02):
I was like like the first time Rick took me there, I
was like what is this?
Because, oh, it's a meat, I'llgo.
What do you remember?
Yeah, and samita is that reallygood, or what is that?
Yeah, it's mexican.
It's like, what is it like from?

Lano (01:09:15):
puebla right, pueblana or no?

David Na (01:09:17):
yeah, but is it like like meat, like it's the bread?

Lano (01:09:20):
it's a type of bread the bread, but the sweet is like the
name of the bread.

Mig (01:09:24):
That's the thing you can get it, like I always got a
milanesa.

Lano (01:09:27):
Which is breaded, breaded, milanesa, which is I always got
milanesa.

Mig (01:09:31):
Yes, it's a breaded steak, okay.

Lano (01:09:33):
But then they have jamon and all that stuff.
Yeah, but the but it was alwayslike the difference when you
want panela or the cheese or the.
Oaxaca, the shredded Oaxaca.
Some days I want a panela.
It's always different.

David Na (01:09:51):
You know, I've been to Oaxaca.
The food's great and I don'twant to sound biased here, but I
think the best food and I'vebeen everywhere in Mexico,
practically the best food wouldprobably be Michoacan, you know.
You know no, the carnitas, youknow.

Lano (01:10:06):
For some sake.

David Na (01:10:07):
I mean, we know where it originated from, but not only
the carnitas man they have.
Like in the morning you couldget up and go to a restaurant.
They have all these differenttypes of food, like carne with
papas and chile Right and justlike an array of plates.
You will love it, Mick.
You know we should go to mydad's hometown.

Mig (01:10:28):
Why of plates?
You will love it.
Migg, you know we should go tomy dad's hometown.
Why would I know, dude?

David Na (01:10:32):
Because I'm fat.
No, no.
What are you trying to say,dude?
No, I know you like to cook alot.

Mig (01:10:35):
No, because I know you say you hope people don't get
offended or anything, but thenyou offend me, right?

David Na (01:10:38):
to my face, dude, but you know what I?

Mig (01:10:41):
respect that At least you're saying it to my face and
not behind it's because you knowwhat I love?

David Na (01:10:45):
food too, man, I love food.

Lano (01:10:47):
Por eso estamos como estamos.
Si, that's why man yeah.
But I don't know it's becausethat's where my mom from.
But Zacatecas they got somegood.
There's a place they go in thevalley.
It's called Salsa and Beer.
It's all Zacateca food, butit's like really good and I love
it.

David Na (01:11:01):
But what dish Do they have?

Mig (01:11:02):
there the it's like um spicy carnitas you know you know
what though dude, right nowthat I'm remembering one, uh,
one of the trips I took with myex, to her, to her parents um
little pueblo right there injalisco, um tuxueca it's.
It's close to like borderingmichoacan.
Is michoacan was the border,was like maybe like 40 minutes

(01:11:26):
away, but only because it's likea lot of twists and turns and
everything.
You got to drive slow, you know, but it's not that far.
We went to, oh, what was thename of that town?
Mazamitla, uh-huh, is that inMichoacan, I don't know?
Or is that somewhere in Jalisco?
I'm not sure, mick.
Oh, I think it was Mazamitla.

(01:11:47):
I Jalisco?
I'm not sure, mick, oh, I thinkit was Mazamitla, I don't know.
It feels like right on theborder of Michoacan.
I think we were in Michoacan.
But that place, dude, they had acorn vendor and the lady you
know, she was roasting the cornright there.
She had her cart with her coalsand everything and she was

(01:12:08):
roasting it fresh and that's thelast time I had corn.
That was just incredible, wow,it's like she prepared it the
way they do here, you know.
It's like they put themayonnaise and everything on it
and then the parmesan cheese orwhatever they have, the cotija,
you know, or whatever crumblystuff they had, but they had
this chili powder dude, that itwas just phenomenal.

(01:12:30):
I don't know what chilies theyroasted or what they used, but I
have never been able to find aduplicate for it.
Wow, and that's why, even tothis day, I don't like getting
corn anywhere, because if it'snot going to have that good
Chili powder that she had, thenI don't want.

Lano (01:12:51):
Which was like Homemade, you think Absolutely.

Mig (01:12:53):
Absolutely.

David Na (01:12:55):
And that was where In, in, in Michoacan.

Mig (01:12:58):
I think it was Michoacan, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure when, where, where, where, where, where, where,
where, where, where, where,where, but I know it's like
right on the border, because Iknow we did go into Michoacan it
was.
Was it San Jose De Maria orsomething like that?
Yeah, dude, I should have runthese places down.

David Na (01:13:24):
Yeah.

Mig (01:13:27):
Getting back to you about Michoacan having the best you
know, it's like that chilipowder dude I mean.
That's why I don't get cornanywhere else anymore because
that chili powder was just so.

Lano (01:13:38):
That's the flavor you're looking for.
That's the flavor I'm lookingfor dude, it's like not
overpowering.

Mig (01:13:43):
Spice, good spice, nice like a little bit smoky.
You know, dude, it was so goodand it's just like I get corn
now and I'm disappointed.
And the corn was delicious,dude, the corn was man.
It's like the lady even tellsyou, you know, ¿quieres blanco o

(01:14:03):
quieres amarillo?
Or she even had the blue Bluecorn.
Yeah, she had every kind youwanted there, but they even had
the blue Blue cord.
Yeah, wow, she had every kindyou wanted there, but they all
taste the same, right or no?

Lano (01:14:12):
No, they're different yeah .

David Na (01:14:13):
Which one's the best one.

Mig (01:14:15):
I think the yellow's A little bit sweeter.
The white's like more, moresavory.
I think I didn't try the blue.
I didn't try the blue.

David Na (01:14:25):
I've had blue tortilla chips, yeah, at.
Trader Joe try the blue.
I didn't try the blue.
I've had blue tortilla chips.
Yeah, I traded joe's, you know.

Lano (01:14:30):
But I didn't try the blue though well, this is one of my
favorite spots in both hearts.
It's called um burrito la palma.
Have you been there?

David Na (01:14:35):
where's?
No, I never even heard of it.

Lano (01:14:36):
It's on olympic, it's by um.
You know, ramirez brothers,that giant like liquor store
there's one in el monte, yeahthere's one in the mountain,
that's the way we go there onpick road is that by?

David Na (01:14:46):
by the club Don Quixote, you know the Don
Quixote nightclub.

Lano (01:14:49):
No, I don't think so.

David Na (01:14:51):
And it was in the old days, that liquor store, was it
called?
Fines?

Lano (01:14:55):
I think it used to be called Fines.
Yeah, but this is the one in ElMonte.
You been there, mink.
It's pretty good.
We go there once a month.
I recommend the spot, but we goto the one in El Monte or the
one in Boyle Heights.

Mig (01:15:07):
I haven't gone because Mingo said he went and he said
it wasn't all that.

Lano (01:15:09):
Oh no, you got to go.
They're little burritos butthey're good.

Mig (01:15:12):
Well, yeah, no, he said they were little burritos.
He's like nah, but they'rewhatever.

Lano (01:15:16):
Oh, I'll bring you some.
I'll bring some.
They open one in Highland Parkone, and he's like it's the same
cook as the one in BoyleHeights.
They say they should taste thesame, but but they're always
like Top of like lists, but no,it's really good, like now, like

(01:15:37):
your brother seems sus, whichis His picks now, cause it's a
good spot.
We go all the time, alright.
Well, thanks for coming down.
How's your Tuesdays?
Cause we recording Tuesday.
Maybe you can stop by whenRick's here.

David Na (01:15:51):
Okay, cool yeah, maybe .

Lano (01:15:53):
Cause I know when Rick's here, I'm out in my Cycling
class, you know.

Mig (01:15:57):
Or, if you can.
If you can't make the drive,lon will figure it out how you
can call in.

Lano (01:16:01):
Okay, live A smart phone and then some headphones.

David Na (01:16:04):
If you have some headphones, if you have
headphones, or we see ourselves.
How do we look on tv?

Lano (01:16:07):
uh, we're not live on thursday, okay, but we'll be on
thursday, okay but um, you cancome back next week or whenever
when rick's here, because thenwe'll have some stories about um
adventures and stuff yosemiteyosemite and today we're like
interviewing you, but we'll havesome, some fun, funny stories
and, as far as the weight losschallenge, I think I'm in the

(01:16:30):
lead.
Yeah, three, but I got awaymyself, but mingy's um lost some
weight.
People have gone up yeah didmark say no mark?
Didn't mark say he lost a poundhe?

Mig (01:16:40):
lost a pound.
Yeah, rick gained five pounds.
I think uh he was snagging uhpicnic baskets with a yogi bear
up in yosemite I know he was onvacation for a week.
So that's my theory and I'msticking to it.

Lano (01:16:54):
Hey, any shout-outs?
You want your mom or anybody.

David Na (01:16:57):
No.

Mig (01:16:58):
Shout-out to Boyle Heights, East LA.

David Na (01:17:00):
Boyle Heights, east LA , east LA.

Mig (01:17:03):
I don't know.

David Na (01:17:04):
To all my friends there, you know.

Mig (01:17:07):
All your old Silesian heads .

David Na (01:17:12):
Alright, y'all.

Mig (01:17:13):
Good show.

David Na (01:17:14):
Thank you for having me.

Mig (01:17:15):
Thank you, david, for being here.
Thanks so much.
Love you brother.

David Na (01:17:17):
Alright, love you too.
You guys are great.

Mig (01:17:20):
Love you guys out there too .
Keep on drifting yo.

David Na (01:17:23):
Yo Peace.

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