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December 3, 2025 81 mins

A Hollywood mystery collides with holiday chaos and neon-soaked nostalgia. We start by unpacking the Natalie Wood story from the ground up: a child star shaped by a mother’s ambition, a career that paid the family’s bills, and a haunting “dark water” warning that framed her fears. Then the weekend that won’t let go—Catalina Island, a yacht called the Splendor, broken glass, smashed bottles, delayed calls, and a body found at dawn. We walk the timeline with fresh eyes, weigh competing accounts, and ask what the official narrative still doesn’t answer.

From there, we come up for air with our real-world circus: hosting Thanksgiving, smoking two turkeys on a pellet grill that ran out of pellets at 6 a.m., and learning that “done” depends on patience, backup plans, and a ruthless thermometer. Black Friday traditions keep the pulse going, and yes, one of us got cut off at the theater bar during Wicked—popcorn loyalty intact. We compare notes on what makes a great musical moment and why sleep sometimes wins in the third act.

To end, we tap into the cultural comfort food that never fades: cassette tapes recorded off FM radio, Friday night video rentals that smelled like buttered cardboard, Saturday morning cartoons with cereal bowls inches from the TV, TGIF appointment viewing, and playgrounds so metal they literally were metal. It’s a wide-angle episode that balances a sober, respectful look at an enduring Hollywood case with the warmth of family rituals and the glow of 80s–90s memories.

If you’re into true crime deep dives, movie history, messy holiday wins, and a dose of retro joy, you’ll feel right at home. Hit play, share your Natalie Wood theory, and drop your favorite 90s memory in the comments. And if you haven’t already, follow, rate, and send this to a friend who still rewinds their memories with a pencil.

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Hey Jesse.
Hey Lindsay.
Uh what are we drinking today?

SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
What are you drinking?
A vodka and energy drink.
Whatever the watermelon that yougot from Aldi's.
That's what I'm drinking.

SPEAKER_01 (00:12):
Watermelon waves.

SPEAKER_00 (00:13):
Welcome everybody.
Hey everybody.
What is Miss Lindsay drinkingover here?

SPEAKER_01 (00:17):
I'm having a watermelon Vista Bay from Aldi.

SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
We didn't even plan that, dude.
No.
I'm on a watermelon vape overhere.

SPEAKER_01 (00:26):
Me too.
Watermelon ice.
It's it's almost winter.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
Well we got it.
But we're still on summer.
21st is the winter officially,or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (00:37):
20s.
Is it first or second?

SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
When is winter solstice?
One than 20 days.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (00:42):
Comment, Victoria.
But we're getting there.

SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
We're getting there.
We did the whole Thanksgivingdamn thing.
You want to recap on some ofthat, Lindsay?
How that's it?

SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Well, first let's recap our episode.

SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
Oh, we're gonna recap on that.
We're gonna be capping no meanrecapping.

SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
So we don't have a new episode coming out on
Friday.
So we're gonna make this one alittle long.
And uh we're gonna recap ourepisode.
We're gonna recap Thanksgiving.
We're gonna recap Wicked.
Oh.
What else did we say we weregonna recap?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
We have like a whole- You wanted to talk about
some things that you missed inthe Wednesday.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
Well, yeah, so I have and I have a um, yeah,
we're gonna talk about thatlater.
We'll get there.
So first, let's recap NatalieWood.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
Oh, here we go.
Happy Wednesday, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Happy Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28):
We're here, we're here, you're here.
Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31):
And welcome to December.
We uh we transformed our housetoday from Halloween to
Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 (01:39):
Seeing how we don't do it.
We're not gonna do like anactual episode on this one.
What made me feel old is thismonth.

SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
This week.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
This month will make me feel old.

SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Oh, it's birthday month for Jesse.

unknown (01:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
And that's it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:56):
Faute fau.

SPEAKER_00 (01:58):
That's all that I'm gonna say about that's all I'm
gonna say about that.
On the 16th.
That's all that I'mrefrigerator.
The refrigerator is filling upwith water.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does that.
It makes ice for us for us tohave drinks.

unknown (02:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:13):
It's a good fridge.
Well, that was that's what mademe feel old.
What made you feel old thisweek?
Tell me.

SPEAKER_01 (02:17):
I mean, you weren't even gonna say that until your
birthday week.

SPEAKER_00 (02:20):
No, because I'll probably talk about this for the
next three podcasts.
Okay.
Yeah, because I'm that old.

SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
So what made me feel old was I had to work extra hard
at my job, extra hard at home.
So this is the busiest week atmy work.
Plus, we host uh Thanksgivingfor our friends, uh our family
and a friend's family.

(02:46):
Um it's all family.
It's all family.
And uh we love it, but it's it'sa lot, and I stress out about
it, and I wasn't able to sleeppast like 5 or 5:30 every
morning this week.
Then we did Thanksgiving andthen we went Black Friday
shopping.
But first, let's recap NatalieWood, and then we'll talk about

(03:08):
all of that.
So little Natalie Wood, her uhher mother was uh quite the um
kind of the nightmare mom thatyou know, like she wasn't a
pageant mom, but she was a childstar mom, and she wanted to be

(03:33):
an actress, so she made surethat her children were in the
industry.

SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
She was living vicariously through her children
and pushing them in a horrificway to me.

SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Especially Natalie, because a gypsy had told her
that Natalie would be, well, hersecond child, which was Natalie,
would be a star.
So she she wanted to make surethat happened.

SPEAKER_00 (03:57):
You gotta go like star.

SPEAKER_01 (03:59):
Star.

SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:01):
Superstar.
Superstar.
So and that gypsy had also toldMaria, that was Natalie's
mother, that um she saw into thefuture and that Maria should
stay away from Dark Waterbecause she saw her drowning in
it.
Which was very ironic.

(04:23):
Yeah.
It did not happen to Maria.
Um, so Maria makes littleNatalie a child star.
She um she stars in severalmovies.
Ones that you the that that Iknow about that I think are the
most popular are Miracle on 34thStreet.
Which we need to watch becauseit's it's it's definitely used

(04:44):
put it on this morning, and Iwas like, I kind of wanted to
start the day with Eight CrazyNights because yeah.
The fright the the not theFriday, the Saturday after
Thanksgiving always start kicksoff Christmas for us because
that's when we decorate.
And I woke up craving leftovers,and I was like, I'm gonna put on
eight crazy nights.

SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
Speaking of superstar, when I get nervous, I
go like this.
And then I'll do like this.

SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Well, you just showered, so there's they should
be smelling pretty good, right?

SPEAKER_00 (05:15):
Yeah, but I mean I I made out to a tree one time.

SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
Did you?

SPEAKER_00 (05:19):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
While wearing a poncho?
That poncho she's wearing is Imean, I love superstar.

SPEAKER_00 (05:28):
Yes.
Can we watch that's a Christmasmovie, right?
No, but it will be for us.
It will be, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
So um where was I at?
Okay, so then um she, you know,she's a child star.
She does some, she's in likefour movies at one time, like at
the same time during herchildhood acting career, and
then she paid all the bills.

(05:56):
Yeah, she paid all the bills forher family.
She was the income.
And um, I did not touch on thisa lot in the episode, but her
mother and father's relationshipwas very tumultuous.
And her father was passive untilhe would have enough, and then

(06:18):
he would drink and he would getviolent.
Um Natalie really didn't have aa safe space either.

SPEAKER_00 (06:26):
She wanted to be away from home.
That was like her safe space,you know, being on acting.

SPEAKER_01 (06:32):
Yeah, but that was I mean, that was a job.

SPEAKER_00 (06:33):
It was pushed upon her, yeah, yeah.
And she thought that she washappy to get the telescope at
the end of the all the workingthing.

SPEAKER_01 (06:41):
She would complete uh a role, you know, her parents
would buy her with money thatshe had earned, uh, you know, a
prize.
And then uh when she got older,she starred in Rebel Without a
Cause alongside James Dean.
And then she went on to star inGypsy and West Side Story.
And I mean, she was just reallydoing the thing.

(07:02):
But along the way, when she was11 years old, she had met, or
not met Robert Wagner, but she,yeah, she did.
She met Robert Wagner and sheswore up and down that she was
going to marry him.

SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
She kind of sought him out, right?
She was like, I'm gonna get him.
He's gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
But then in between, she had fallen in love with one
of her classmates, and he wreally didn't like her to begin
with, because they were kids andhe was like, Ew girls.

SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
Oh, yeah, that was because he he wasn't like
Hollywood star.
Mom was like, no, fuck that.
You're not cool enough, right?

SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
They fall in love, and um, but then Maria Hot Win
that he had proposed to Natalie.
I I can't his name is is not onthe top of my dog right now, but
it's a point where I was like,Maria does not remind me of a
West Side story at all.

SPEAKER_00 (07:55):
No, because she's garbage mom and just like Maria
in West Side story.
Well, but I mean the actual, youknow, her mom or something.

SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
I know, yeah.
So um Maria made Natalie givethe ring back to her high school
sweetheart, and that causedtrauma within Natalie, and also
the young man uh attemptedsuicide.
And um, so that was traumatic.
But then she goes on, she herand Robert Wagner do get

(08:26):
married.
And um in they get marriedtwice, actually.
And the first go-around, uh,they it didn't work out, and
they didn't have like they werestill kind of young, but he was
he was a lot older than her, butyou know how men are, y'all
mature a little later.
Later, a little later.

SPEAKER_00 (08:47):
Yeah, people don't grow up till then.

SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
Um, so they get divorced.
It I think the first go-around,um, I think it was like four
years, and so it's rumoredthere's a lot of you know
speculation in that firstgo-around.
Um, it was rumored that he wasreally jealous, um, and uh that

(09:13):
Natalie had cheated on him withWarren Beatty, who was a very,
very popular actor back then.

SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
But you said like the chemistry wasn't there,
right?
No.
That was the one on set whereyou're the one.

SPEAKER_01 (09:24):
No, no, no, we haven't got there yet.

SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Oh, we haven't got there yet.
We haven't got there yet.
Yeah, there was there wasthings.

SPEAKER_01 (09:28):
Well, actually, yes.
So there was the movie that shestarted with him, like she
couldn't stand Warren Beatty.

SPEAKER_02 (09:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
She ended up, uh, you are correct.
She ended up uh like respectinghim and his acting abilities,
but there was no there wasnothing.

SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
She wasn't sparking.

SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
But there was also speculation that um okay, so
when Natalie and um RobertWagner, RJ, get married, he has
a small apartment, but he has aa butler.
So why do you need a butler in asmall apartment?

SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 (10:07):
And this guy continued to work for him even
after they got married, andstill didn't have a mansion at
that point in time.

SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
Oh, I see where you're going with this.
So he was a man servant.

SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
Um Right, he was a man servant, and uh it was
rumored through all out RJ'scareer, life, everything, that
he was if he was not gay, he wasbisexual.
And that was um rumored as towhy they split up the first
time.
But they both remarried.

(10:46):
Robert married.
I think they both actuallymarried British people too.
Oh, they had he married aBritish woman, she married a
British man.

SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
I don't remember if you talked about that.

SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
I didn't, but I remember that from the book.

SPEAKER_00 (10:58):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (10:59):
Um or the documentary.
I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 (11:01):
I just of all that you had dropped something about
Frank Sinatra, too, right?
Was that like a movie thing?

SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
Frank Sinatra was uh so Maria in um Natalie's
childhood kind of uh pimped herout to older men that she felt
like would get Natalie ahead inher career.

SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
And she went to like a like alone with them.
And I was wondering, I waswanting to kind of pick you a
little bit on some of that tosee if you had some more dirt
that you didn't put on thepodcast.

SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
No, because that's really all that is said.
Now, Frank Sinatra adored her.
I think they actually started amovie together later on.
But the crazy part was I know itwas a different time, doesn't
make it appropriate.
Frank Sinatra was in his 30s andNatalie was a teenager when

(11:46):
Maria kind of pushed that along.
Yeah.
But um now in her teenage years,it is alleged that she was raped
by Kirk Douglas, which is Mike.

SPEAKER_00 (12:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
And he was really, really gross about it.
Make sure you go back and listento the episode.
And also, um, I'm gonna plug atwhen we're done recapping this,
the audiobook that I list too,because it's really good.
And it's read by Rose McGowan.
Rose McGowan.
Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, well, the Mary Lamanson.
Okay, yeah, that's where I waslike the whole thing about
Frankie and Jawbreaker.

SPEAKER_01 (12:26):
You know, it's Rose McGowan.

SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (12:28):
So, um all right, where was I?
Okay, so RJ and Natalie both getdivorced from each other, they
remarry other people.
Ten years later, they have bothproduced a child, they divorce
those people they were marriedto, and they rekindle their

(12:49):
relationship, get remarried, andthen have a daughter together.

SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (12:57):
So it seemed like everything was okay and
copathetic in the secondgo-round until Natalie okay.
So she took a break for she tooka hiatus from acting, focused on
being a mom.
And then when I think Courtney,their daughter, was about six
years old, she decided to getback into it and um takes on a

(13:20):
role with Christopher Walkins.
CW.
Yes.
I just I love him so much, andyou know what's crazy is in the
shower when I was like, I wasdoing my everything shower today
because we were Black Fridayshopping.
I couldn't do it for me.

SPEAKER_00 (13:35):
Still looking really look at that.
No, she she she pulled it outearlier.
She had it in braids and Frenchbraids.
It's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 (13:45):
And it was like and he was like, You have share
hair.

SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
Yes, and she has it.
I mean, I believe in life afterlove, and I can feel something.

SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
You believe inside myself.

SPEAKER_00 (13:58):
Can I touch it more?

SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
I'm touching it, and I like it.
I want my hair.
Can I grow my hair out and dothat?

SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (14:04):
I can do that.

SPEAKER_01 (14:05):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (14:05):
We can have matching hair.

SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
You get you're gonna have to take collagen and
vitamins though, because you'reskinny thin.

SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
I'm old and thinning.

SPEAKER_01 (14:12):
Well, his starts to get thin when it grows out past
like about here.
I want dreadlocks, but it staysthick as long as long as you
keep it trimped and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
Dreads just hanging everywhere.
Just you like it, it would beokay.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Just take hair, skin, skin.
Hair, skin, and nail vitamins.
By the way, this is Drunk AboutSomething Recap.
We never said that at thebeginning.

SPEAKER_00 (14:34):
Did we not?

SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
Raw.
We've we've had a rough coupleof days.

SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
No, we didn't.

SPEAKER_01 (14:37):
Raw, uncut, and unedited.

SPEAKER_00 (14:39):
And I have you ever said that before and are drunk
about something anything?

SPEAKER_01 (14:43):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
Raw, uncut, and unedited.

SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:46):
Oh, you have?

SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
I say it every week.

SPEAKER_00 (14:49):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 (14:54):
Leave me alone.
Leave me alone.
I'm going to the plant.

SPEAKER_01 (14:58):
So Natalie takes on this role with Christopher
Walken in a movie calledBrainstorm.
It's like a sci-fi thing, andthey're like a little sci-fi,
they're like nerdy couple in themovie.
Um, which was also said thatthey had no chemistry.
I think I remember that movie.

SPEAKER_00 (15:14):
Have I watched it?

SPEAKER_01 (15:15):
I I haven't watched it.
Um remember that one.
But um RJ is jealousnonetheless.

SPEAKER_00 (15:23):
Now, Christopher Walken at that time was a
knockout.
Hard fucking chiseled cheeks,just amazing.

SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
Robert Wagner was hot too.

SPEAKER_00 (15:31):
Yeah.
I mean, of course, he was like10 years older, right?

SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
I just don't know who Robert Wagner is because I
don't know any of his movies.
Like I know Natalie Wood'smovies, uh, quite a few of them,
but I didn't know anything aboutRobert Wagner except for the
fact that he played number two.

SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Was he like in Gunsmoke or some shit too?
No.
No?

SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
He played number two in the Austin Powers movies, and
I love Austin Power movies.
And Silas has just kind ofgotten obsessed with them lately
as well.

SPEAKER_00 (15:57):
So I'm just trying to go back to like number two.
Yeah.
Trying to like go back to like60s type TV shows.
I thought he was in Gunsmoke orsomething.
I think so.

SPEAKER_01 (16:05):
Hold on.
Let's look up his uh thinking.

SPEAKER_00 (16:07):
Let's look him up real quick.
I'm thinking, because you know,my dad watched a lot of Western
stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
I like I said, I don't other than number being
number two, I don't knowanything about him.
And this something like that.
This particular story.
This was um the first time thatI ever knew who now I I knew
Natalie wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
We knew number two.

SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
That's a number two, but I didn't know it was Robert
Wagner.

SPEAKER_00 (16:32):
And then yeah.
Which was appropriate because atthe end of this, I feel like he
is kind of a number two.

SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
Alright, so let's go to his IMTV.

SPEAKER_00 (16:44):
Which Austin Powers is just the movie, just we need
number four.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Because Mike Myers, I mean, yes, he only did two
Wayne's Worlds, but he did fourShrek's.
And he's coming out with anumber five.
One more Austin Powers.

SPEAKER_00 (17:01):
They did the whole time machine thing, so they can
okay, they can they can havetheir their universe and bring
everybody back from all themovies and do like this big
closing of all the the the evilwhatever they've brought in.
That would be great, right?
Let's see.

SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 (17:16):
She's looking it up.
I wanted to know, because that'sthat's clicking in my head.
I'm thinking there might havebeen like some old western
stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
No, the show that he was in.
Hold on just a second.

SPEAKER_00 (17:26):
Yeah, maybe I'm I'm pulling up.

SPEAKER_01 (17:28):
No, the I know that the like long-running show, uh,
was it called Heart to Heart.
No, that was a movie.
Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 (17:35):
You're looking.
She's looking.

SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
He was in a show, like a series.

SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
And in contrast, like I'm thinking of something
that's like 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
So yes, Heart to Heart was the name of the show
that he was in.
Other than that, he was just inmovies.
And I don't know any other.
So he was in Dennis the like anold Dennis the Menace.

SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
And this is good, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
Oh, he he was in Wild Things.

SPEAKER_00 (18:07):
He was in Wild Things?

SPEAKER_01 (18:08):
Yeah.
He probably had a small rolebecause I don't remember him.
But yeah, he was in the TV showhe was in was uh Heart to Heart.

SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
Wild Things was a movie I felt dirty watching it
because I was so young.

SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
So dirty.

SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Yeah, I felt dirty watching that movie.
Because I was young, like howlong am I doing watching this
movie?

SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
We weren't that young.
We were because that movie uhWild Things was It was the 90s.
98.

SPEAKER_00 (18:32):
We were teenagers, but still I felt dirty watching
it.
Why?

SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
I don't know.
Well, because we were teenage.
I don't know.
We had watched dirtier stuffbefore that, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 (18:40):
Oh, we were sheltered teenagers.
I was just oblivious.
So were you though?
You're just like, whatever theworld, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (18:47):
And we've seen that was like some Pink Panther
movies, also.
Oh the old ones.

SPEAKER_00 (18:53):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (18:54):
That's cool.
And uh he was in a movie calledum He had a bunch of damn
movies.
Oh yeah, he's got a big, a bigfilmography there.
The Silver Whip, Tab HunterConfidential.

SPEAKER_00 (19:09):
So if you want some more contrast on him, you can
check all that stuff out.

SPEAKER_01 (19:13):
The longest day.
Oh, it looks like a war movie.
He was in a uh Bruce Lee movie.

SPEAKER_00 (19:20):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Called Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 (19:22):
Oh, and the last Dragon was a really iconic game.

SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
In Love and War.
Wow, 58.
That was a that was a long asstime ago, man.

SPEAKER_00 (19:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:33):
My parents are in their 70s and they were born in
54.

SPEAKER_00 (19:37):
So they know a lot of that, right?

SPEAKER_01 (19:39):
Yeah, I'm sure they know more about Robert Wagner
than I do.
The halls of Montezuma.

SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
Montezuma.

SPEAKER_01 (19:46):
Well, I think remember so um my bestie's ex
brought over some Montezumatequila one night when it was
her birthday.

SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
Did you get the revenge?

SPEAKER_01 (20:00):
You got the revenge.
You had he Jesse never calls outof work.
And he had to call out of workafter drinking that.
Whoa.
That was uh fuck like eightyears ago.

SPEAKER_00 (20:13):
We had like a fire pit and stuff in the back, or
what was it?

SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
We were just back porch, they just showed up.
It was Aaron's birthday and theyhad to Montezuma and Tell me
about it.

SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
I don't remember that part.
I don't remember just.

SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
You don't remember having to call out?
Y'all were, I mean, they werejust taking shots.

SPEAKER_00 (20:34):
And Did they drove back, didn't they?
Or did they where that was Aaronliving here at the time?
I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
This was eight years ago.
Oh god.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
So don't remember it.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Um, no.
That was uh, but anyway, so thatjust yeah, triggered that
memory.
Montezuma tequila.
I didn't even know that thatthing existed, but the revenge
and it showed up here at thehouse, and Jesse drank it and
could not work the next day.

SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
I had too much.
I did too too too too much.

SPEAKER_01 (21:05):
Too much.
But okay, so back to NatalieWood.
So she's starring in this rolewith Christopher Walken.
Um, and then Thanksgivingweekend in 1981, they uh Robert
Wagner and Natalie Wood decideto go on a uh a yacht trip for

(21:27):
Thanksgiving weekend.

SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
Yeah, weekend bender.

SPEAKER_01 (21:30):
Yeah, and they had invited some other friends, but
I guess the weather was likesketchy.
So all the other friends exceptChristopher Walken declined.
So it was just Natalie, RJ,Christopher Walken, and the
captain Dennis, is it was itDavin?

(21:51):
Oh my god.
I don't have my notes in frontof me.

SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
Yeah, sounds about not.

SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
Dennis.

SPEAKER_00 (21:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
So they go to Santa Catalina Island.
And you know, I did not even itwas the Catalina wine mixer.
We didn't need no boats and hosebecause there was boats.
And and the Catalina, there waswine.
There was wine involved.

SPEAKER_00 (22:14):
There was no hoes, really, I don't think.
I think that there was just somemisunderstanding and some
garbage ass bullshit going onbecause some build-up shit was
going on.

SPEAKER_01 (22:22):
So the first day that they're there, um, they do
some shopping and they go tohave dinner, but an argument
ensued.
Um, and so it was somethingabout Natalie wanted to m or I'm
sorry, RJ wanted to move theyacht from where they had it
anchored or docked, whatever.

(22:43):
Um, I don't know shit aboutboats.
But um, and Natalie did not wantto, and she ended up staying the
night in a hotel on shore.
And then and Dennis stayed theretoo.
I didn't touch on this a lot,but No, you didn't say anything
about this.

SPEAKER_00 (23:03):
It says Is that a spider on your nose?

SPEAKER_01 (23:06):
Yeah, I've had this for two months.

SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
Where have you been?
I love it.
I just did I just notice yourspider nose.

SPEAKER_01 (23:14):
I'm sorry, folks.
You gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 (23:17):
Oh, our son just showed up over there asking.

SPEAKER_01 (23:20):
You gotta get out of here.
That's the love you bye.
Love you, bye.
Love you bye.
Check in in 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 (23:27):
You hear all the jingle bells.
I love it.
We're so set up for Christmas.
We did that all day long.
It was just like Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 (23:34):
We had to take naps in between.

SPEAKER_00 (23:36):
We're gonna set that up later.
I might do that tomorrow withthe books.
Is that okay?
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (23:41):
Okay, because we gotta we gotta watch that last
episode of Stranger ThingsAgain.
We fell asleep.

SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
No, like I thought it was just a purple thing, and
I haven't been like, I know I'vebeen this close to you.
Lindsay.
You know, 90% of the time we getready, it's just like passing,
and then it's darkness, and thenwe go somewhere and it's just
like I don't even notice.
Because like from here, I can'tsee it.

(24:06):
I can't tell.

SPEAKER_01 (24:07):
And then from here No, it's just for me to know,
really.

SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
Yeah, but I just see the little legs on that one.
I'm like, is that a spider?

SPEAKER_01 (24:12):
And then the whole spider in the spider web.
You and all right now, I'll getin a spider web, so leave a
message and I'll call you back.

SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
No, I just I feel like it I feel like I should
have called you earlier.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
Uh like least story but I should have left a
message.

SPEAKER_00 (24:32):
I mean, I didn't leave a message.
It probably wouldn't havebecause we're right here.
We just I would I should havegot closer.
I didn't notice your your noseso dumb.

SPEAKER_01 (24:44):
Anyways, let's get back to the recap.
Woo! So Dennis and Natalie, theystay in a hotel while
Christopher Walken and RJ arestill on the yacht.

SPEAKER_00 (24:56):
And I did talk about that, but I did not touch on the
having a wine mixer.

SPEAKER_01 (25:00):
Katalina, having a line wine mixer.
It was said that only one roomlooked like it had been slept
in.
So for some reason, Dennis sleptin the same room as Natalie.
Now I don't know what it's liketo be rich, but I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (25:19):
But they're married.

SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
I mean Captain Dennis and Natalie wasn't
married.

SPEAKER_00 (25:24):
No, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_01 (25:26):
Wait a minute or on the boat.

SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Wait a minute.
I know.
Oh, you didn't bring up this.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (25:35):
I don't know if it was just because she I don't I
don't know.
I don't know.
We don't know.
We won't, we will never know.

SPEAKER_00 (25:40):
Now we don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (25:41):
So anyway, so they go back to and the boat was
called the yacht was called theSplendor, and it had a dinghy
name Prince Valiant.
Yes, the dinghy had its ownname.
That's weird to me.
So they go back and they have umdinner again on shore.
And the restaurant manager ofthat restaurant that they dined

(26:03):
at said that there wasarguments, and he was worried
that they were not going to getback to to the Splendor safely.
So he had them followed by apatrolman.

SPEAKER_00 (26:14):
This is deeper dive.
I love it.

SPEAKER_01 (26:17):
And uh so they get back to so in the restaurant,
there was an argument, and therewas a uh there was glass broken.
There it was, it was uh it was aspectacle.
And then they get back to thesplendor, and there was another
argument.

(26:37):
This time apparently it wasbecause Robert was voicing his
opinion about Natalie being,excuse me, uh, you know, being
back at work, and he didn'treally care for it.
And Christopher Watkins, like,well, she can do both.

(26:59):
She can be a mom, she can work,and it's all good.
Robert didn't like that.
Apparently, there was a winebottle smashed, and it said that
Natalie basically just wanted toget away from the men who were
arguing, and she went to bed inthe main stateroom.

SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
So they're on the high seas, and tensions are
high.

SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Tensions are high, shit is floppy, and then dark
water.
Dark water.

SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
That's what you were talking about with the gypsy,
and I called her an oracle,which is like to me, it's like
kind of the same thing.
Anybody that's gonna predictanything or you know, they're
they're gonna tell you somethingin life, even if they don't get
it completely right, because allthe little little sections of
life may not be the right thing,but you have to listen to all
that because some people dofucking put I kind of believe in

(27:49):
some of that, Lindsay.
I kind of believe in some ofthat.
It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
No, I don't have all the details at the top of my
head.
I left my notes in the room andand we're here.
Here we are.
Um, so make sure you go back andlisten to the full episode.
So around 11 p.m.
Natalie is uh noticed missing.

(28:12):
And for some reason, the CoastGuard wasn't called for some
time later.
And then she was found drowned.
And she was wearing a nightgown,wool socks, and a heavy down
jacket, which is what they saidweighed her down and actually

(28:34):
was the reason why she drowned.

SPEAKER_00 (28:35):
Yeah, but you were you were saying like the harbor
patrol was called first, andthen they got the Coast Guard,
and but yeah, they were at aparty or some bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
I'm glad you remembered.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (28:45):
They were fucking around and some fuckery was
going on like a mile offshore.

SPEAKER_01 (28:50):
Yeah, well, there was uh the yacht next to the
Splendor.
Um, a woman on there said thatshe heard a person yelling and
calling for help and that theywere drowning.
So she called Harbor Patrol.
And then later on, RJ calledHarbor Patrol.
Harbor Patrol didn't answer.
And then it, but it was quitesome time.

(29:11):
I think it was four hours laterbefore the Coast Guard was
called.
And then at 8 a.m.
Um the Saturday afterThanksgiving of 1981, Natalie
Wood was found drowned near thedinghy that was way offshore.
It was like a mine.
It was cut from the boat.

SPEAKER_00 (29:32):
There's a so there's so many fuckeries right there.

SPEAKER_01 (29:35):
So many fuckeries now.
Um everybody was ruledbasically, or everything was
ruled in accident.
Ten years later, Captain Denniscalls up Natalie's little sister
Lana and tells her a little moreof the story.

(29:55):
And then um, so that was '92.
And then Quite some time afterthat, Robert Wagner.

SPEAKER_00 (30:03):
Robert Wagner, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (30:04):
Uh actually is declared a person of interest in
this case.

SPEAKER_00 (30:08):
We think so.
We think so.

SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
So Dennis basically tells Lana that um Natalie and
Robert were arguing, and it wasa very heated argument.
Uh furniture was thrown, uhdomestic violence is speculated,
and um everybody was just kindof scared of RJ at that time.

(30:32):
Dennis actually lived with himfor a year afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 (30:36):
Kept it on under the road.
Here's what I think.
I think there was a fight in theroom, right?
He he threw her overboard.

SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
Pretty much.
Well, I mean, like, you've gotto go back to our episode and um
listen to the details of ChrisHack.

SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
And said he could hear the boat banging against
the the dinghy was bangingagainst the side of the boat.
He actually said that, right?
And it was like cut loose justto make it cover it up.

SPEAKER_01 (31:08):
He thinks that Natalie This is what he said.
This because he hasn't said alot about it over the years.
But he says that he thinks thatNatalie cut the boat so it would
stop banging because she couldhear it loudly from her room.
Right.
But Natalie hated dark water,was terrified of it, and she

(31:32):
only felt safe on boats becauseshe felt like the water couldn't
get her on there.
Because Robert always had boats.

SPEAKER_00 (31:39):
Not a dinghy.

SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (31:40):
Yeah.
Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
I just don't think she would have fucked with that
dinghy.
She wouldn't.
And she would have been thisNatalie Wood.
She would have been like, hey,Dennis, can you come coat uh
move this dinghy because it'sbanging against and for Robert
or or whoever anybody else, nother herself.

SPEAKER_00 (31:56):
She was gonna leave the boat and go to a party in a
nightgown.

SPEAKER_01 (32:00):
She was in a nightgown and full socks.
No.

SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
She's not gonna leave and go to the Natalie
Wood.
Go to the go to uh some partiesand have some Hollywood time
whenever she's not even ready toluxuries.
And there's I would have beenlike, okay, I want to have at
least the captain bring me outthere with me.
You know, I'm gonna go to someparties and be all dressed up
and do the Hollywood shit.

SPEAKER_01 (32:18):
Dennis was protective of her.
He stayed in a hotel room withher.

SPEAKER_00 (32:24):
This is a recap worthy of this because I'm over
here sipping, because this isall fuckery.

SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
Fuckery.

SPEAKER_00 (32:30):
And we know.
So we're just waiting on likeold this case remains open.
Ask people to to spill it beforethey fucking die.

SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
Robert Wagner is 93.

SPEAKER_00 (32:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:41):
Now Christopher Walkins only in his late 70s,
and the older I get, the youngerthat seems.

SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
Maybe in this one we need to tag Christopher Walken
and be like, you know what?
Let's speed, let's just go aheadand speed this thing up.
Let's everybody's waiting forit.
Just talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 (32:55):
He has lawyered up, so he probably can't talk about
it until I don't know.
I don't know how that works.

SPEAKER_00 (33:01):
You got like two more movies left in you?
Come on, bud.
Or whatever, man.
Yeah, come on, fuck your uh Iwas saying in even in the
podcast, I was like, you knowwhat, fuck your career.
Do what's right for justice forNatalie, because there's no
reason why he wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 (33:16):
He was married to his wife at the time that all
this happens, the woman he'sbeen married to since 1969.
I think that's right.

SPEAKER_00 (33:24):
Which kind of makes me feel like there's just so
much dirt on all sides, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Oh, that's Hollywood.
Like nothing surprises meanymore.

SPEAKER_00 (33:32):
So much dirt.
Just let it fucking ride, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
I'm gonna look up how long Christopher Watkins
been married to his wife becauseit's a long ass time.

SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
Which is admirable.
I mean, that is that is great.
I mean, yeah, hey.

SPEAKER_01 (33:43):
It's always been wondered why she wasn't there.
I mean, this is Thanksgivingweekend.
Why aren't either why weren'tthere kids with them?
Why did they leave theirchildren?

SPEAKER_00 (33:52):
It's really weird.
That's really shady, Lindsay.
Not what we're shitting on CWover here.
We love him to death too, butit's shady.

SPEAKER_01 (34:01):
Well, I was just that what I was gonna say, I
didn't finish it earlier.
Um, I was singing um hairspraysongs in the shower.
He's in hairspray.
I love hairspray.
Yes.
The remake with Nikki Blonsky.
That was in 2007.
Okay, so he has been married tohis wife Penguin whenever he was
on Batman.
Georgian Thon.

(34:21):
He has been married to Georgiansince 1969.
That is a long time.

SPEAKER_00 (34:28):
You're holding it.
She's counting.
Do it.
Do it, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 (34:38):
So that's almost 60 years.
That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 (34:42):
You think we'll make 60 years over here?

SPEAKER_01 (34:44):
I hope so, but I mean 60 years.
But I mean, they they survived Imean, in that's wild.
Like I wouldn't have to do.

SPEAKER_00 (34:53):
Would that be a breaking point if he was like
the dirt behind all that at thebeginning of the relationship?

SPEAKER_01 (34:59):
Well, did I did you look at our stories and see the
size of the boat?

SPEAKER_00 (35:02):
I really don't think that if there was a a fight was
I'm worried drinking now becauseI'm worried about Christopher
Walking.

SPEAKER_01 (35:13):
I just don't know how soundproof this thing was.
How did he not know?
I mean it's big.
It's big.

SPEAKER_00 (35:21):
It's a 70-foot boat, Lindsay.
Like a 70-ish.
It's not really that big.
So he would have heard thefight?
You would have heard everythingeverywhere.
Come on.
That's not that big.
I was thinking 100 foot, 150.

SPEAKER_01 (35:34):
Yeah, supposedly he was asleep during all of that.

SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
That's the boat?
And that's that's not you and Ihave been charter boat fishing
on a boat bigger than that.
Come on.

SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
I mean, that's just the front of the coat.

SPEAKER_00 (35:47):
Let me pull it up.
Look at it.
We're looking at the boat now.
Yeah.
We've been charter fishing on aboat bigger than that, Lindsay.
We have.
Queen's Mary.
Was it what was it?
Not the Queen's Mary.
What was the Queen Fleet?

SPEAKER_01 (35:58):
Queen's Fleet.

SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
Yeah.
That was a hundred foot boat.
That's not a hundred foot.
I'm snipping.

SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
So make sure you go back and listen to the full
episode.

unknown (36:08):
They're good.

SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
And also check out the arts who Jesse picked out
without knowing.
And her name was Natty.
And the song is called NoReturn.

SPEAKER_00 (36:19):
I did not plan it.
I swear to God.

SPEAKER_01 (36:21):
No.
It was like, okay.
He has no idea what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_00 (36:25):
PDF file, just so all the listeners know.
I have a PDF file and I just godown a list.
All the bands that I stack up, Istacked up like four this week
or whatever.
And some some cool female,usually rock, but like I love
grabbing diverse and culturalmusic, whatever.
We've played anything.
I just stack them up, and thenthe next one is I just scroll

(36:47):
down and there's the next one.
Did not know it was that close.
It was and she has some amazingmusic too.
I love it.
So check all that out.
Yeah.
All the music.
I love you know contacting andmeeting so many cool bands.
It's just I love it so much.

SPEAKER_01 (37:04):
Yeah.
I mean, oh, that's just like me,you know, researching these
cases, and he's bringing newmusic into our world.

SPEAKER_00 (37:11):
Yeah, honestly, the fire behind everything you spill
upon me, that is that is kind ofour thing that we love to aspire
to you.
Whatever story you you plug it,that and then I have a band at
the end of it, kind of resetsus.

SPEAKER_01 (37:27):
Yes, and it's a well and it's a palette cleanser.

SPEAKER_00 (37:30):
Palette cleanser.
That's what I was looking for.

SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That part.

SPEAKER_01 (37:34):
So now we're just gonna recap really quick our
Thanksgiving day.

SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
A little Timpsy already.

SPEAKER_01 (37:40):
Well, yeah.
I mean, this is drunk aboutsomething raw, uncut, and
unedited.
I feel like this goes straight,straight to YouTube, and then we
mix it down.

SPEAKER_00 (37:49):
No editing.
We mix it down.
I don't give a fuck.
But you do you think, honestly,you and I, before we started
podcasting, we did a trip, okay?
And we were going to, I think,Orlando, and we uh listened to
history channels.
What is it, Drunken History?
Was it was it on HistoryChannel?

(38:10):
I think it I think it has ahistory channel, but we listened
to like five episodes of DrunkenHistory.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
Isn't there we had to travel to Savannah and we
listened that was Savannah?
Yeah.
Oh I think we had to play, wehad to go to Savannah and back
in one night.

SPEAKER_00 (38:26):
Yeah, we played a sh was that was a night we played a
show, right?

SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (38:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
We played with um fighting giants and was it Defy
the Tyrant?

SPEAKER_00 (38:35):
Yeah, yeah.
Who else was there?
There was another band theretoo.
They were from Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 (38:40):
Well, not a lot, it was three.

SPEAKER_00 (38:41):
I think this is like, okay, incoherently uh
ricochet of our whole premisebehind the podcast because we
did like listening to DrunkenHistory and was like, okay,
that's so awesome.
You're you're actually puttingout history right here the whole
time.
Well, I've shooting history.

SPEAKER_01 (39:00):
I started listening to podcasts in 2019.

SPEAKER_02 (39:04):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (39:06):
And I wanted to do, well, because I I like to do
makeup, and I I liked BaileySarian's concept of it where she
would put on makeup whiletelling a story.
And then I also wanted I wantedto plug bands myself.
I love Bailey.
Yeah, but at the same time, Icouldn't, there's no way that I

(39:26):
could reach out to musicians andtalk to them along with I
didn't.
I mean, honestly, when I startedthis, I really didn't realize
how much work I was gonna beputting into it.

SPEAKER_00 (39:37):
And I'm sorry, bands, because I hit you up kind
of creepy.
I'm just like, hey, you know, mywife and I do podcasts and we we
feature bands.
I don't care though, because I'mI'm wanting to get your content
and your unsigned.

SPEAKER_01 (39:50):
I'm sorry, I'm trying to look up is it the
history channel?

SPEAKER_00 (39:53):
I think it's on the history channel, the drunk
history, right?
Drunk uh what's it called?

SPEAKER_01 (39:57):
Well, uh it just hold on.

SPEAKER_00 (39:59):
I think it's on a history channel.

SPEAKER_01 (40:02):
Well, I mean, no, it I mean it's you can watch it all
over the place now.

SPEAKER_00 (40:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:06):
Oh, it's Comedy Central.

SPEAKER_00 (40:08):
That's where it was from.
Uh yeah.
And you see, like, somebody juston their drunk as shit and
they're they're telling history.
I think this is kind of a likeprequel to to Gen Ziville, drunk
about something, where we'rejust like, we want to tie that
into, you know, there is a lotof fucked up stories.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
They get a lot drunker than we do.

SPEAKER_00 (40:29):
Well, no, not me.
No, not me.
They get drunker than me.
Can't get drunker than me.
I get because I'm the puddledone that gets that gets to take
the brunt of it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
He also drinks liquor and I drink seltzers, so
that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 (40:40):
Yeah, 8%.
I'm drinking 80%.

SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
Mine's five percent.
But it doesn't take a lot forme.
I've always been a lightweight.

SPEAKER_00 (40:49):
I I enjoy the the whole conversation.

SPEAKER_01 (40:52):
For me, is is a pe is is puke.
Like no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 (40:56):
It's too hard.
It's puke.

SPEAKER_01 (40:57):
Especially now that I'm going through perimenopause,
like it gives me, it actually uhworsens.
Is that is that a word?
It worse um it makes my symptomsworse.
And uh so I I really just Idon't really and I I can't enjoy
a a liquor drink.

SPEAKER_00 (41:16):
Yeah, well, I've seen them like drink wine or
whatever.
They're but they're gettingdrunk.
They're getting drunk on there.
I love that show, you know.
Yeah, it's great.
You know, that's why I reallygrasp on to everything that we
do here is because I love thatshow so much and just somebody
like putting out history orsomething that they've you know,
they're telling it off the dome,though.
They're not reading it, youknow, but you have put in so

(41:37):
much to spread, you know.
We we we've talked about a lotof telling it off the dome.

SPEAKER_01 (41:41):
They research it and they talk about it.
It's a while thinking, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (41:45):
It's a production, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:46):
But they're telling it off the dome, they're not
reading a script like I dobecause I'm like because I mean
I do that for our recaps, butfor the episode, I am definitely
reading all of my notes thatI've written out.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, I mean I feel likethis is why I've latched on to
whole the whole thing about ourpodcast and everything.
So I'm I'm sorry to just breakaway from that, but I just felt
like that was some roots of whatwe got in Gen Ziville over here.

SPEAKER_01 (42:10):
I was like, it was kind of cool.
I like it.
So we're just gonna talk uhquickly about what we had for
Thanksgiving Day.
So the last two years we've beenhosting for our family, and we
are trying to really master theturkey cooking, okay?
Because we like it delicious andjuicy.

(42:30):
And um, so last year,Thanksgiving, we only made one
and it wasn't enough.
So Christmas, we're like, we'regonna make two.
And we started them at what 3a.m.
And we because we wanted to eatby two, but we had two turkeys
and it wasn't done.

SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
So so what we did was She's over here tripping the
fuck out.
She's tripping the fuck out.
Stronger every time we havesomething like this because we
have to go through all thetumultuous things.
She's like, oh my god, I justfuck around.
It's gotta be perfect.
I'm like, Lindsay, it doesn'thave to be perfect.

(43:11):
But F them.
F them.
We're gonna do the best we canto try to give them some good
ass food because we know thatLindsay throws down.
She wants it perfect.
She wants it right then, rightnow, when it's ready.

SPEAKER_01 (43:20):
So we know that we have the flavor of the turkey
down, Pat, and what we gotta do.
It's all the injector, all thebutter, all the season.
Okay, so we cook two atChristmas, and we start them,
we're good, but we take themoff, we think everything's good,
we think the internaltemperature is great.

(43:41):
They're both still raw.
So we throw one back on thesmoker, and we throw, well, I
cut up one and put all that inthe air fryer and so we can eat.
Because I would my sister-in-lawhas also brought ham.
So I was like, all right, I didthe math.
I literally did a mathematicalequation on how long we should

(44:03):
cook two turkeys on our smoker,what temperature, everything.
So we start them the nightbefore this year.
We start them at 10 o'clock.
And I'm like, all right, if theyroll on till two, everything's
gonna be perfect because I hadto work eight to two.
So I was like, as soon as I getoff work, we can pull them off,

(44:26):
let them rest.
It's gonna be great.
I get up at 2 30 a.m.
to go pee, and I was like, allright, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna
go baste, I'm gonna go inject.
Everything was still rollingperfectly fine.
Smoker is rolling, it's a pelletgrill.
So smoke, everything's goinggood, but I didn't think to

(44:48):
check the hopper of the pellets.
Like that it's 2 30 a.m.
And I'm already like on verysmall amounts of sleep.
I mean, it was it was goodbefore we went to bed.
So we know that we know that atleast from 10 p.m.
to 2 30 a.m., probably three, wehad good cooking.

(45:08):
I wake back up to get ready forwork at 6 15 to go inject again.

SPEAKER_00 (45:14):
Red alert.

SPEAKER_01 (45:16):
I yell, Jesse, what the fuck?
Out of that dead sleep, I comeup.
I said, it's out of pellets,help.
Because and I mean, andeverything was kind of had
chilled down, there was no heat.
I was like, oh my god.
But we got it rolling again by 7a.m.
But it wasn't done until aboutfour.

SPEAKER_00 (45:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (45:39):
And now we're gonna have to do that.
One of them was done.
One was temping, so we pulledthat one off, we ate that one,
we let the other one roll onwhile we uh ate our initial
plates and then we pulled thatone off, cut it up.

SPEAKER_00 (45:55):
It worked out perfectly, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 (45:57):
I know, but so as I I make most of the side dishes.
We have m uh my fam, my parents,and a friend of ours brings side
dishes, but I make most of them.
So all that gets prepped.
It's a very, it's a very tryingweek for me, Thanksgiving week.

SPEAKER_00 (46:14):
We survived and we did great.
Come on now.

SPEAKER_01 (46:17):
And everything was delicious, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (46:19):
High fives on that.

SPEAKER_01 (46:20):
High fives on that.

SPEAKER_00 (46:21):
Yes, less stress, just more whatevers, because I'm
a whatever guy.
So we end up contrast behind allof Gen Ziville over here because
Lindsay has this whole personaover here that she wants
everything to be nice andperfect and all that.
And we worked hard for all that.
And I'm just like, yeah,whatever, fuck it.

SPEAKER_01 (46:40):
You know, I'm just trying to get rid of the
hiccups.

SPEAKER_00 (46:43):
Trying to get rid of the hiccups in the in the
system.
You want the system to be soperfect, so smooth.
And I'm over here like, yeah,fuck the system.
Fuck the system.

SPEAKER_01 (46:52):
So then, okay, so we ate, we drank, we had a fire, it
was a great night.

SPEAKER_00 (46:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:57):
And then uh great.

SPEAKER_00 (46:59):
We got to see Landon's new little girlfriend.
We were like, the first thing Isaid was like, What kind of
music are you into?
And then like an hour later,what did what did Lindsay ask?
The same fucking question.
I was like, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 (47:15):
I was exhausted.
I had been I I literally camehome.
I they let me leave 15 minutesearly.
I ran for my life.

SPEAKER_00 (47:22):
Yeah, we did all the things.

SPEAKER_01 (47:24):
I came home, I changed clothes, started
drinking.
All my food had been in the ovenon warm.
I had to add a couple of things.
Our friend showed up earlierthan normal.
He's still on the couch.
He's still on the couch when Iget home.
Not showered.
Hasn't cleaned the bathroom yet.

SPEAKER_00 (47:42):
Fuck the system.

SPEAKER_01 (47:44):
But once I had my first drink in me, I relaxed.

SPEAKER_00 (47:46):
Oh, I tightened up.
I tightened up.
And then like at the hour afterI'd asked that same question,
you could tell Lindsay loosenedup enough to where she was like,
what kind of music you're into?
And that I was like, that is socute because you're making sure
your boys like got this reallycool chick.
And you were like, she you youasked that question, and she was
like, Oh, I like Metallica.
And you're like, Well, that's agateway drug.

(48:07):
And then we played like somehardcore metal ass shit.
She didn't say anything,actually.
She did not chime in.
So young, so new.
That made me feel old too.

SPEAKER_01 (48:17):
And we're all like singing at the top of our lungs.

SPEAKER_00 (48:20):
Yeah, that was quite like Landon plugged in some some
bands on the on the littleoutdoor fire that we had in the
back area.
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (48:28):
We're getting close to an hour.
We gotta speed it up.

SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
Oh, well, well, we don't have a thing this week, so
this is our thing.

SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
At the same time, it's you know, oh chilling.
Next morning we get up, we goBlack Friday shopping, we have
our routine, we have our storesthat we go to.
But normally we have somebody toum for silence to hang out with.
We didn't the sheriff.
Oh, yeah.
She is sick.

SPEAKER_00 (48:51):
We had to take the boy with us.

SPEAKER_01 (48:52):
So we had to take the boy with us, and um,
luckily, so I had already boughtour tickets for Wicked, Wicked
for Good.

SPEAKER_00 (48:59):
Oh, you worked that out.

SPEAKER_01 (49:01):
Somehow the seat next to us was still available.
And so I I I bought his ticket.
So we go do Black Fridayshopping, we go see Wicked, and
it was everything.
And I got uh cut off for thefirst time in my life at a bar.

(49:21):
So the movie theater will onlyserve me three drinks.

SPEAKER_00 (49:24):
This one here, I probably could have got three
long four Long Islands,probably.
No, three, limit.
What's your Long Island?
It didn't taste that strong, butstill, I had the Long Islands, I
I had two of them.
And Silas be to begin with, hewas shitting on Wicked to begin
with, because you know, ifyou're a parent or whatever and
you got to he's a musical childwho does not like musicals just

(49:49):
yet.
But how many people have beenthere?
But have you been there?

SPEAKER_01 (49:53):
He loved Hamilton.

SPEAKER_00 (49:54):
Yeah, well he's honestly have musicals because
we have to.
He was all involved, fullyinvolved.
He was on it.
I'm over there tired of shit,and I'm over there like kind of.

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
He took a nap, I took a nap.

SPEAKER_00 (50:08):
On Wicked.

unknown (50:10):
I can't, I couldn't open it.

SPEAKER_00 (50:11):
That's a thing.
I think it's our funk that we'vebeen in.
We've been in like a three-weekfunk.

SPEAKER_01 (50:16):
It's only been two.

SPEAKER_00 (50:17):
No, I've been in a three-week funk.

SPEAKER_01 (50:19):
No, we started, we I got sick before you.

SPEAKER_00 (50:22):
You did, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 (50:22):
Yeah.
It's been two.

SPEAKER_00 (50:24):
Has it been just two?
It feels like fucking threeweeks to me.

SPEAKER_01 (50:27):
There's nothing to make us feel old.
Maybe it has been three.
I don't freaking know.

SPEAKER_00 (50:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:32):
November has ran together.

SPEAKER_00 (50:33):
Yeah, he was shitting on it.
And I was just like, what?
And then as soon as we got inthere, I looked over and Silas
is like fully like on it.
We must have good.
Oh, we must have ate like threebuckets of popcorn.

SPEAKER_01 (50:44):
I don't know, but popcorn is my favorite part of
going to the movie.

SPEAKER_00 (50:47):
I love it.

SPEAKER_01 (50:48):
And then um, they had like the big tall boy uh
trulys.
So I had three of those.
Uh passenger princess, you know.
But yeah, when I went and boughtthat third, because I had we had
one before we went in.
Because we got there early.
We had one before we went in,then I got one to go into to sip
on.
Then I was like, I have to gopee.

(51:09):
I'm like, let me get one more.
Wash this popcorn down.
And she was like, All right,that's the last one I can sell
you.

SPEAKER_00 (51:16):
And I was like, Lindsay's slipped off.

SPEAKER_01 (51:21):
But it was just funny to me.
That's the first time I've everbeen cut off anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 (51:26):
That's cute.
I love it.
You're saying no.
This is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
Let's go, girl.
That's the last one I was gonnadrink anyway.
But um yeah, so we we watchedWicked.
I did, I fell asleep literally,I took 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 (51:43):
Um you may tell you about the parts that you missed.

SPEAKER_01 (51:46):
No, oh we don't want to spoil no spoilers.
Just go watch it.
Yeah, like tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 (51:53):
Perfect tie into the original.
Perfect.
Oh my god, perfect.
Was there some dark shit inWizard of Ice?
Like, look at me.
I'm over here like so good.
I'm like, I'm like, oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 (52:09):
And now, I mean, y'all know, y'all know, if if
you know, you know.
Stranger Things is out, thefirst volume, first four
episodes.
We've been doing that.
So we get home, we had watchedone episode Wednesday night, one
episode Thursday night, camehome last night, and it was so
early.
So we watched one episode fullyawake.

(52:31):
We started the fourth and fellasleep.
We're we're exhausted.
So we're gonna watch that four.
We gotta rewatch that onetonight.
And uh, so yeah, now we're we'rewe're waiting for Christmas for
second volume.

SPEAKER_00 (52:45):
You got me over here giddy about that too.

SPEAKER_01 (52:47):
It's so good.
The season is so like I love allof Stranger Things, and Jesse
actually watched it before me.
Him and Landon were watching ittogether, and they got me into
it.
So I watched one episode onenight while he is asleep.
I'm like, all right, becausethis was back, my the restaurant

(53:08):
that I worked at closed a littlelater before the pandemic.
And um so I would get home, wewould basically just kiss each
other goodnight, and I wouldwatch whatever.
So I would watch one episodelike on the TV, and then I was
hooked.

(53:28):
So to be respectful of his sleepschedule, I just plugged in my
headphones and started watchingit on my phone so that he
wouldn't have to hear it becauseI could not.

SPEAKER_00 (53:37):
I I was like down.
I stayed up with the withStranger Things for a while.
And then But you could havewatched it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (53:45):
So he was re-watching it with me.

SPEAKER_00 (53:47):
Yeah, like the 80s and everything in the tight end,
it was so perfect.
Everything in the background'slike, come on, dude.
You know what we haven't seen onStranger Things?
I will did we we need to go backand look because I haven't seen
like the couch with all theremember the couch that
everybody had?
That was the 90s, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 (54:03):
No, that was late 80s.

SPEAKER_00 (54:04):
Yeah.
The couch.

SPEAKER_01 (54:06):
They're not gonna show that.
That's that was that was whitetrash.
What?
That was the white trash couch,man.
We don't get the couch that wehad.
I had the couch.
So, well, so they're living innicer house, nicer situations.

SPEAKER_00 (54:19):
The trailer park couch.
That did you you have the couchand the TV on the TV?

SPEAKER_01 (54:25):
We're talking about the mobile home.
Okay, so when manufactured homeswere you got the couch with the
house and it had it was likebrown and white, and it had like
the wood and the the wagon wheelwith the wagon all the country
scenery is like this is yourcountry home.

SPEAKER_00 (54:44):
Yeah, like wheat.
Yeah, yes, it just had like afucking plant and a wagon
fucking organ trail, some shitin the background on the the
motif of the couch.
Look up that couch.
I mean, I'm sure everybody's apicture of it in stories.
Yeah, we need to post thatbecause that is I seen it on
like um a couple of social mediaplaces where it was just like

(55:06):
there's the couch.
There it is.
Who didn't have this couchgrowing up?

SPEAKER_01 (55:11):
And the and the wood paneling in the mobile home.
That was in mobile home.

SPEAKER_00 (55:15):
And it was like the couch was built.
I I swear, if you have that, ifsomebody has that couch, hit me
up.
I swear.
I want to know if somebody stillhas that couch.

SPEAKER_01 (55:23):
All right, so what we're gonna talk about now is
our top five things that we missabout the 80s and 90s.
I was born in 82, he or he wasborn in 81, I was born in 82.
So we still were old enough inthe 80s to remember things.
Holy shit.
But we mostly things that wemiss.
So I'm gonna start because Ihave a list.
He's he's going off the phone.

SPEAKER_00 (55:44):
I don't have a list.
I'm gonna bounce off.

SPEAKER_01 (55:45):
I'm gonna do our top five, and then we're gonna do an
honorable mention.
So my number five is I miss tapeplayers.

SPEAKER_00 (55:55):
Cassette tape?

SPEAKER_01 (55:56):
Yes, cassette tape players.
Really?
I don't know why, but when Iespecially when I saw it last
night on one of the episodes,um, Holly uh plays Tiffany on
cassette.
My my first okay, so I wasraised, I had to Christian
listen to Christian music, butmy first secular music tape that

(56:18):
I ever owned was Billy RayCyrus's Some Gave All.
Some Gave All.
Yeah.
Can I bounce off of that?

SPEAKER_00 (56:25):
Can I bounce?
Can I bounce off of it?
Can I can I can I bounce offfrom it?
So I had a I had the um cassettetape.
It was uh oh my god.
It was it might have beenPanasonic, but it had the two
the two tape decks that youcould record what you could
actually record what was beingprojected out on um FM radio.

(56:48):
And I used to hit play andrecord and make my own fucking
personal cassette tapes.
You remember you had to so youhad to put play and record, you
know.

SPEAKER_01 (56:58):
You had to put if you didn't have a unrecorded on
cassette, what you would have todo to record new music was put
tape over it.
Tape over the top.
Do you remember that trick?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (57:09):
Yeah, you covered the hole.

SPEAKER_01 (57:11):
So if you wanted to record your favorite song on the
radio, you would have to puttape over a tape, like scotch
tape.
Yeah, you put it over the holewhere it where it was gift
wrapping tape, if you're tooyoung to know what that is.
Okay.
So you would have to put tapesover the hole, you put it in,
you had to wait till theannouncer would say, and the

(57:33):
next song is blah blah blah.
And then you had to play andrecord.

SPEAKER_00 (57:39):
Might have been on a alpine.
Might have been on alpine.
I don't remember what mine was.
Panasonic or alpine.

SPEAKER_01 (57:45):
I just remember I had it was gray, and it had a
handle where I could tote itaround because you know the
thing was put it on.

SPEAKER_00 (57:52):
You had the yeah, the look I had the whole console
with the fucking, it was likethis big.
And the speakers were like thisbig.
It was supposed to be like byyour TV or whatever, and that's
what I had in my bedroom becausemy parents said, fuck all that,
they just use the TV, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (58:08):
And well, that was yes, and that one had been
around for a long time.
Like I my dad had that one, likehe bought that right after eight
tracks went away.

SPEAKER_00 (58:17):
Right.
You had the boombox style.

SPEAKER_01 (58:19):
Yeah, I had the I had the one you could put on
your shoulder.

SPEAKER_00 (58:21):
We all do that because we've seen so many music
videos.
Everybody walking around withthat shit on their shoulder.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (58:28):
So, okay, so that was my number five.
Um, my number four, neon colors.

SPEAKER_00 (58:36):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (58:38):
Everything in the late 80s and till about 93 was
neon.

SPEAKER_00 (58:43):
Neon.

SPEAKER_01 (58:44):
Okay, it was like a a chemistry mess up or
something.
I don't know.
And we got we all know.
But we got neon color,everything was neon, everything
was bright, blind, blinded bythe light.
Yeah, everything was neon, neonpink, neon purple, neon,
everything was neon.

(59:04):
And I had a jacket that at thattime was my prior, and this was
before I went through my grungestage, and I no longer wanted to
wear it after that.
I wanted to be flannel andNirvana.
Nirvana and Pearl Jam.
Pearl Jam was my number one.
But um, but yeah, neon colorswere the tits.

(59:25):
Like we had the new I had a neonpink fanny pack.
Um, so that there wasn't yeah,the fanny packs have made their
comeback, but they ain't neoncolors like they used to be.
Like at all.
Now they're called pretty muchlike belt bags or sling bags.
I have a sling bag now, and likeit's the best thing because I
can hold all my stuff in thefront, and I I don't have to

(59:48):
worry about anybody snatching itoff of me.

SPEAKER_00 (59:51):
I love colors, huh?
And the and and the parachutepants?

SPEAKER_01 (59:56):
Oh yeah, parachute pants.

SPEAKER_00 (59:58):
Oh yeah.
I've been to a couple of neonparties.
I want to do a neon party here.
It's full-on neon.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:05):
Neon.
Neon party.

unknown (01:00:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:08):
The neon movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:10):
What was the Batman movie where he had the whole
neon gang that was all likeneon?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:15):
That was uh Batman's.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:18):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:19):
That's my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:20):
It's my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:22):
That is not your favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:23):
Well, okay.
I like the Tim Burton shit.
I love the Tim Burton.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:27):
We're talking about okay, Batman Forever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:29):
Batman was it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:30):
Batman Forever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:30):
With Jim Carrey and shit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:32):
Yeah.
Now I know Michael Keaton is thebest Batman.
But Val Kilmer did a really goodfucking job.
And then you had Tommy Lee Joneswas in that movie, and Jim
Carrey was in that movie.
And um Nicole Kidman.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:48):
That was at the height of her career.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:49):
Batman Returns was with fucking our boy over here
from our story.
Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:57):
Christopher Walkins was in the returns?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:00):
With Penguin, right?
He was the mayor.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:02):
Oh shit, I'll have to go back and watch it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:04):
He was the mayor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Batman Returns.
For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:10):
So my number three is video rental stores.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:16):
Wasn't that just and you walked in, you could smell
popcorn.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:20):
Friday night.
Okay, so we didn't getBlockbuster in our town for a
long time, but we have onecalled Pick a Flick.
And then we had Video 1800.
What was the Arc?
And then we had Ardvark.
Oh my God, Lindsay.
Like, why the fuck Ardvark?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
I was fixing to say it, but I couldn't bring it up.
Um you're talking 25 Fridaynight or Saturday.
30 years ago?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:46):
When you would have a sleepover with your friends,
if their parents were cool, theywould take you to the video
store so you could pick out twoor three movies that you could
stay up all night and watch.
And there was just somethingabout that.
Like it was exciting.
You you had you picked out yourmovie, you picked up pizza on
the way home, you popped thepopcorn.

(01:02:07):
Sometimes you would buy it fromthe store.
And or thought it was so cool.
Or us cheap, you know, thecheaper parents would already
have it at home.
But that's cool too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:14):
But it was the same thing.
Economy.
Um same shit.
You just had to spend moremoney.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:19):
Um, but if you didn't have it at home, you
could pick it up right there atthe movie store.
You could buy the single packsand uh pop your popcorn at home.
And it was just a whole thing.
You it was it was a vibe.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:30):
That's right, because they actually had the
whole popcorn machine when youwalked in.
That's why it smelled likepopcorn in there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:35):
And you can buy already pots or you could buy
the single surfaces.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:39):
Search the aisles, you're like, okay, I want to do
horror.
You know, I always go to horrorbecause uh me and my bros, we
would and I had like a we had aa uh what do you call it?
A five five fruffle.
There was five of us.
And we wouldn't five fruffle.
And there was five of us and onechick, four dudes and one chick.
And we we always it was likenever had anything to do with

(01:03:03):
the chick, but she was alwayspart of us.
And I missed she was part of thegroup.
She was she's still bestie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:09):
I was the chick part of the Duke group.
Still best when I was in um whenI was older.
Now, when I was younger, now I'mtalking about like when we would
have girl girl slumber parties,you did your yeah, uh, you know,
things like that.
And and I rem because that wasbeing growing up in a sheltered
home, that was my exposure tothe real world.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:29):
The picture is always, you know, everybody
sitting in front of the TV, andyou could tell what what does
that room smell like?
We know what that room smellslike.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:37):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:38):
Feet and ass.
Fucking everybody hang out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:41):
Well, I mean, we were doing smelled like acetone
and fingernail polish because wewere painting our nails.
Um the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:48):
I didn't know, I didn't get that conference.
So sorry for the chick that hungout with us because feet and ass
with us, man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:55):
Ours smelled like Love's Baby Soft, because that
was the popular perfume backthen that we could afford.
It was like five dollars, andthat was expensive.
Um, but yeah, so video rentalstores was a whole vibe.
And if you made the A B on rollor A on roll, which I always did
when I was younger, I was reallygood in school.
Um, you got a free ticket to gorent a movie for free.

(01:04:16):
And there was there was thisperiod where every single
because back then we got reportcards every six weeks.
So there was this whole thingwhere um, or this whole time
period where I rented a landbefore time every six weeks.
Oh, when I would get my littlevoucher to go rent a free movie
from Pick a Flick.
So that was exciting for me.

(01:04:37):
Um, so my number two Saturdaymorning cartoons.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:43):
The best.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:44):
With your bowl of cereal in front of the TV.
Because I wasn't allowed, mythat was my parents' day to
sleep in, so I better keep themlow.
So I had to sit right, we had afloor model TV.
So I had to sit right in frontof the TV with my cereal.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:58):
You ain't bothering nobody.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:00):
No, and I wasn't allowed to have fruit loops and
shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:02):
So honey, like I had the I had the um I had the ninja
turtle bowl that changed colorswith the milk.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:09):
I did I didn't have anything good like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:11):
What?
Lindsay.
I know Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:16):
Get a ninja turtle bowl.
But my kids did, so that's allthat matters, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:20):
It didn't change colors like ours.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:23):
My so the line, so it would always it Pee-wee
Herman would kick it off.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:28):
And that wasn't a cartoon, but it was a kid's
show.
And then you would have Garfieldand Friends, and I don't
remember what else after that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:38):
Usually it was like uh something.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:41):
Later on it became like recess and things like
that, but oh Muppet Baby Baby.
Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:54):
No, like every one of these are hitting on me.
I I'm just bouncing off.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:58):
That was just regular TV network Saturday
morning cartoons, not you know,Nickelodeon and stuff like that.
That had like Inspector Gadgetand the cool shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:07):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:07):
Which I would get exposure to if I had stayed the
night's and stuff like that.
Well, if I had stayed the nightat Friends' house, I would get
the cool cable.
We I didn't have cable, I didn'thave a satellite, we just had um
ABC, CBS, and ABC always had thegood cartoons.
And then, you know, uh, I thinkaround 9 a.m.

(01:06:28):
I could catch uh catch uh Saveby the Bell.

unknown (01:06:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:32):
Save by the Bell.
Yes.
You thought you were growing upwhen you watch some shit like
that.
Right.
I am getting trendy over here.
And then my number one they havethe neon stuff too.
Yeah, most neon stuff by thebell.
Loved it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:50):
Pa Mark Paul Glaciar, man.
I remember do you remember theconspiracy where the everybody
said he had died?
He did not die.
Right.
Yeah.
Like that was a whole thing whenI was in school that Mark Paul
Glacier, who played Zach on uh Idon't even know if I'm saying
his last name right.
Um that he had died.
And that was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:10):
I've even said it on our podcast a few times.
I'm like, dude.
No, we have to, and then thankGod for good.
Who was it?
Who was it?
Uh Rufio from he didn't die.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:18):
No, I thought that fucking Rufio died.
I knew that that wasn't truebecause I was like, no, he grew
up and he has barely aged.
What did they tell me that hehas barely aged?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:27):
We finally watched Hook.
We watched Hook uh a coupleweeks ago, and it was just like
Rufio is not dead.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:34):
Well, even I mean, even um Mario uh Lopez, who
plays AC Slater on Save by theBell, he hasn't aged like hardly
at all either.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:42):
No, like he looks exactly we look good, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:45):
70s and 80s kids.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:46):
We look good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:49):
Yeah, he looks great, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:51):
Oh, that's a Powerman 5000 story, right?
Dave.
Go back.
Go, go back.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:57):
My number one thing that I miss, and this is mo it
did start in the 80s, but mostlyin the 90s, is TGIF.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:06):
Yes.
Full House.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:09):
A program.
Okay, so this was a programsegment on Friday nights.
Thank God it's Friday.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:15):
Family Matters on there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:17):
Okay.
Full House would kick it off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:19):
Raising roof.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:20):
And then you would have Family Matters.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:21):
I'm raising the roof more.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:22):
And then Step by Step.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:23):
I'm raising the roof even more.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:25):
And now before Step by Step, it was Perfect
Strangers.
Remember those guys?

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:29):
I'm raising the roof.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:30):
And then uh and then Boy Meets Worlds.
Yes.
And oh my god, those programs,if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:39):
Yeah.
And I go back to like guts fromNickelodeon.
You know, remember we weretalking about Nickelodeon.
We don't want you know, I eventalked about Mo for You came
home the other day.
No, it was a month ago.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:54):
No, it wasn't.
It was two weeks ago after wehad talked about guts.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:58):
And swatching guts.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:00):
He was watching guts.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:01):
And I was like, oh, I get it.
It's cute.
Yes, wasn't it?
And uh the what the firstepisode, it was like these kids
are flopping around here gettinghurt in the middle of this shit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:11):
What did you think?
So it was like a um what's theshow?

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:15):
So they're doing um obstacle courses.
Obstacle courses and and andtrying to get to the aggro crag,
and Mo was like the referee orwhatever, the contrast behind
everything that's just keepingeverything going.
And those kids were getting kindof fucked up at the beginning,
and then like after the thirdepisode, they started changing

(01:09:35):
the uh obstacles and everythingto make them a little bit safer.
It was like, wait a minute, thatkid just got like fucked up, but
he's like they're pushing him toget back on and try it again and
do this obstacle.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:46):
Jill Lil White, who played Urkel, Steve Urkel, he
came out with his own marijuanastrain called Yeah, the Herkel
Urkel.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:54):
Herpal Urkel.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:56):
I just can't handle it the way people a lot of
people can, but I like it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:00):
Well, you just want some old funky something to make
it smoothie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:03):
No, I my strain has to be sativa.
Hybrid is okay, but sativa is mythat's not right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:11):
Yeah, so that kind of that kind of messed up.
Turned out just a little bitthat way.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:17):
We had a technical difficulty we had to figure out
over there, yes.
So back to our honorablemention, yeah.
Playgrounds in the 80s and 90swere top tier um because they
they didn't know all these uhthings we were playing on was
gonna possibly break bones.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:35):
And um Yeah, we didn't give a shit growing up.
No, we wanted to play.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:39):
Yeah.
I had no merry-go-grounds.
We used to, I mean, we wouldalways have somebody pushing us
as we were going around themerry ground.
It was like being on a fair rideor something like that, when you
would have somebody that wasconstantly pushing you.
We would sing songs, like Igreat memories of 80s and 90s
playgrounds.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:59):
Right to risk, if that makes sense.
I mean, go to your playgroundand do your things.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:06):
The slides were made of metal, and we would burn our
little legs and ass cheeks onthem things, and I mean the
monkey bars.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:14):
Tried to swing all the way around and break your
arm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:17):
I didn't, but thank you.
I had no upper body strength, soI like I remember trying one
time and I just hopped off and Iwas like, this feels like it's
gonna be an accident.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:26):
Yeah, you knew better than me.
Texture broke two of my bonesright there.
Really?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:32):
Silas has broke his arm on uh monkey bars.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it happens.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:38):
Yeah, I've had uh four boys, and there's been some
broken bones for sure.
But me, I was like, no, thisfeels like my arm's gonna come
out of its socket.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:48):
Other than a broken toe or something?
You've never had anythingbroken.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:51):
Right, yeah, I've broken toes.
I've broken pinky toe, big toe.
I got a fingernail or afingernail, a toenail grow it
that just finished growing outfrom a broken toe.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:01):
Not on a playground.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:03):
In the house.
No, I was scooting the tableback, kind of like in a rage
type situation, and the benchwent right on my foot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:11):
Yeah, it got me, it got me too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:13):
It got me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:16):
And our grill got me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:19):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:20):
But uh other than that, yeah, at our age, we don't
need to be fucking around noplaygrounds.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:25):
But the playgrounds were different.
So so amazing.
Yeah, and that's like, and wewere at them all the time.
It feels like like we werealways at a playground.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:37):
Yeah, the shit really went down with the
playgrounds.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:39):
That with all my boys too.
Like I would take them to play.
And they I mean there's stillplaygrounds, yes, absolutely.
But um, they were just a littlebit better.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:49):
Because of the mayor girl round.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:53):
I agree on all points.
I mean, I can't I can't pull upanything other than what you
just said.
You had a list, so I agree.
80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:03):
There's nothing there's no honorable mention of
anything that because you grewup a little differently than me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:09):
Yeah.
Um, no.
I mean music was different.
You had to really like kind ofseek out music.
Um social media was different,and we didn't have the dawn of
internet.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:24):
No, you knew everything that you ever heard
about, you heard through like aradio station.
Radio station, um, TV, andmagazines.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:35):
So I think that was for something at the games that
all would be like so-and-so isplaying at in Jacksonville at
blah blah blah.
You know, you're like, fuck, I'mgoing, you know.
And that's I mean, we we wentand seen uh, you know, my
sisters and I went and seen cornback in the the way back in the
nineties.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:52):
See, I wish I had had that opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:56):
So you yeah, but we didn't get flyers or anything
posted in our little town.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:59):
You know, so I didn't start going to concerts
till I met Jesse in 2012.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:05):
Yeah.
I was like, because Spon Shankand and so many uh so many
iconic bands are gonna be atRockville.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:12):
I'm like, I remember seeing them in the 90s.
I just want everybody to knowthat I manifested half of that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:21):
So even the last one though, like they're bringing
back so many iconic bands likeSnot and all that like last
year, and then now Spine Shankand so many.
I mean, we're gonna go and dothe damn things.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:35):
Oh we're yeah, we'll be having our uh countdown to
Rockville soon coming up soon.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:40):
Oh, that's coming up, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:42):
Yes, so um we're gonna wrap this up.
Hopefully y'all hear this partbecause it's it's it's been in
the two segment segments.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:50):
But um shit happens.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:52):
Yeah, so we'll have a brand new case uh out for you
next week and um new song, newbands to check out.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:01):
It was a suicidal tendencies in 1988 is when they
started.
They're gonna be there.
88 in Rockville.
Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:08):
Well, we've seen them before.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:09):
Yeah, but I'm just saying that's 80s.
That's there, there I go.
I mean, and when we seen themthat one time at Rockville, they
had a whole mosh pit around thedamn sound booth.
That was badass.
They know how to do it.
80s bands know how to do it.

unknown (01:15:25):
God.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:26):
I mean Guns N' Roses?
I mean, there's more 80s, right?
I know.
Well, you know, I'm gonnapartake in a little bit of that.
A little bit of that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:34):
I'm more excited for a f a few different bands.
We did try to see Guns N' Rosesum at Rockville 2022, but it
rained out.
Yeah, the weather was shit.
I really think that they are nowum, they've gotta be referring
to the Farmer's Almanac becausethe dates keep changing.
It used to be like the same timeevery year, so the weather was

(01:15:55):
whatever.
Um, but I think they'rereverting to that because of
weather predictions.
I mean works.
It's it does work.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:04):
Old ass fucking heads talking some fucking
farmers almanac shit.
That shit works.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:08):
Yes, absolutely, it does work.
And um I will inform a lotbecause I I look at it every
year and I'll inform myco-workers.
All right, it's gonna be a cold,wet winter, or it's gonna be a
cold dry.
I mean, we're so dry right now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:24):
Um Yeah, now that we're just old, we just know
that that works.
It does work, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:28):
It does work.
And um, I've been able to knowwhat that time of year is gonna
be like, just reading thosepredictions.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:38):
Yeah, I don't know why that works, but it works.
It does.
Yeah.
So sipping, tripping, andrecapping and losing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:46):
We're gonna go, uh we're gonna go finish up
Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:49):
Is that what we're doing right now?
Yeah, and then a Christmasmovie, because it's that time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:53):
We've already watched like three today.
We watched Eight Crazy Nights,Elf, and All I Want for
Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:00):
Die Hard.
Fucking Die Hard.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:03):
I took a nap through Die Hard because I was tired.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:05):
Well, I wanted to go to like, you know, unostalgic
ones that 80s.
Yeah, it's not honorable mentionbecause we need to really
recognize that as being aChristmas movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:15):
It's definitely a Christmas music.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:17):
Music movie.
Music movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:19):
It's got Christmas music in it, and it happens at
Christmas.
How is it not a Christmas movie?
I don't even know how that's anargument.
It's definitely a Christmasmovie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:28):
It's it's we had to do it.
Fuck I was a movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:32):
Rickman in there and Reginald Bell Johnson from
Family Matters.
Family Matters.
Yes.
It's a big alone.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:46):
Yeah.
So he left there and he went toChicago, right?
Chicago.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:50):
That's what we're saying.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:52):
He was a cop in Die Hard, then left and went to
Chicago.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:55):
Like, this motherfucker played a cop so
good, we're gonna have him beinga dad cop.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:00):
Yes, in Family Matters.
That's okay.
I think I'm I think I count TVdad now.
I count now as far as your recapnow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:07):
TV dad.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:08):
In this moment.
Yes.
In this moment.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:10):
You know that I just love the fact that um Jill Lil
White, who played Urkel, SteveUrkel, he came out with his own
marijuana strain called Yeah,the Urkel Urkel.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:22):
Was it Purple Urkel?
Urkel Urkel.
I knew it was something likethat.
I don't really tell you myself.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:29):
Well, I said I like it.
I just can't handle it the waypeople a lot of people can, but
I like it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:37):
We just want some old funky something that makes
us make it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:41):
I know I my strain has to be sativa.
Hybrid is okay, but sativa is myshit.
That's not right.
Yes, that is right.
Sativa is my shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:52):
Something distilled from me.
I'm done.
Can't do it.
I don't need to do it.
We're kind of lightweights whenit comes when it comes to that
kind of partaking, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:01):
When I partook often, I was still lightweight.
I still like people would getjealous of the high that I could
get because my tolerance is lowfor anything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:13):
Everybody else was like, no, man, you need to hear
that.
I'm like, fuck that.
It's gonna fuck me all the wayup.
We were in Kentucky and we werelike living our best life.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:21):
At louder than life.
How smoking at Kentucky bud.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:28):
What'd you call it?
Like it was just like whateverwas passing around the whole
area.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:33):
The community joint.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:34):
Community, community.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:35):
Community bud.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:36):
We're part of the community unity.
Yes.
Watching Weezer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:42):
And all the bands.
All the bands.
All the bands.
Uh Slap fell in.
Okay, so for years, I reallydidn't dig Avenged Sevenfold.
I like the bands.
Oh, yeah, we fell in love withthat.
I didn't I like the bands, but Ireally uh wasn't a fan of M
Shadow's vocals, and now like Ihave to listen to Avenged

(01:20:02):
Sevenfold at least once a week.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:03):
Yeah.
Shout out to Sinister Gates forthe fucking amazing guitar
playing, cuz uh I kind of got acrush on you, bro.
Over here.
A little bit of crush overthere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:14):
Maybe a big crush.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:15):
Yeah, well, yeah.
He deserves it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:18):
Them solos over makes it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:21):
Uh Lindsay, get the fuck off of here, man.
I'm ready to go, bro.

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We love you.
I mean, just like we're we're sowe are so indebted uh to your
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Not the number two, but a numberone fan.
We already have one.
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