August 13, 2025 • 29 mins
The Jodi Arias murder case stands as a chilling reminder of how dangerous obsession can become when mixed with manipulation and rejection. What drives a seemingly ordinary woman to commit such a brutal act of violence? And why did Travis Alexander keep pulling her back into his life despite recognizing the warning signs?
Travis Alexander grew up in difficult circumstances – one of eight children with parents struggling with addiction – before finding stability through his Mormon grandmother and faith. Jodi Arias, from a stable middle-class background, became completely infatuated with Travis after meeting him, even converting to Mormonism to strengthen their connection. Their relationship quickly developed into a complex web of religious contradiction, sexual exploration, and unhealthy attachment patterns.
Perhaps most importantly, this case serves as a stark warning about toxic relationships. Travis recognized Jodi's instability but continued to maintain contact for physical intimacy. Jodi's obsession grew to the point where she couldn't accept Travis moving on with another woman. The hosts emphasize the critical lesson: never pursue or maintain relationships with someone showing signs of dangerous instability, regardless of other benefits or attractions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Jesse, happy Wednesday Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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I got a little something, something over here,
Lindsay, what you got, Well, solike.
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Holy shit, lindsay, you've beenkilling it over here and I'm so
fucking proud of all yourachievements and everything, but
what are we going to recap?
You said you had some recap.
(01:55):
Oh, from last.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
From Jodi Arias.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh, the handstand.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So, jesse, he watched .
He watched the handstand, hewatched the interrogation where
Jodi did the handstand.
And she sang to herself and shelaughed to herself and she dug
through some trash.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, Wild and it took you an hour and a half to
find her singing.
Oh, holy Night, and that waslike 12 o'clock at night and I'd
been working.
I was tired.
I was like Lizzie, it's okay,and she's like no'clock at night
and I'd been working.
I was tired.
I was like Lizzie, it's okay,and she's like no, we're going
to find it.
I know it's there.
And you finally found it and itwas like woo, we found it.
And we were geeking for another30 minutes on that.
(02:36):
Yeah, but, before that and thatI mean Before that and I
actually said Jody's turnedupside down or something You're
like, why'd you do that?
And I was like she did thehandstand.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Listen.
I woke up sick as fuck thismorning and you know I was like
I wanted to review our pod and Iwas like what does this mean?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And then you said it like that I'm like oh.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I get it.
And then you said it like thatI'm like oh, I get it, but
that's like something that Itook.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I took it out.
I was like you know what?
My wife's not happy with mylittle joke there, so I just
took it out.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, I didn't get it right away, so I was like maybe
our listeners won't either.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
There.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But Jodi Arias literally does a handstand, that
way of thinking is fully on.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We have some of the most amazing listeners over here
.
Thank, you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Jodi Arias literally does the handstand in her
interrogation.
I can't get over it.
I can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's on our website right now too, so you can see
that of her doing it on ourwebsite.
Squires, squires, yeah, so goto drink about something.
Got side and you'll see herdoing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Absolutely Follow us.
So quick recap.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So Jody, she is, you know, a little middle-class
family.
She's doing okay, her family'scool, Whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
A fucking 12 year old pot farmer.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Lindsay come on.
I know but Travis, he's overhere.
But Travis, he's over here.
He's in a family of eight withsome meth head parents.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Big family.
They kind of failed.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He got sucked in Gets taken in by his Mormon
grandmother.
He gets really deep into thatfaith, wants to go by it.
But he has a little bit of asex.
I kind of want to say it's anaddiction, because when he meets
Jody and he realizes she's acrazy bitch, he don't let that
go.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I kind of brought it up a whole bunch because they
didn't do the Okay, they didn'thave normal conventional sex at
first for a while.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, they did oral, anal and grinding.
They did a grinding thing.
They didn't do the soaking.
So they should have changed nosoaking.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I was fixing to say they should have changed it
where they can cut a hole in thesheet and it doesn't count.
You know, Right, I got a holein the sheet, so I'm not
actually seeing you while it'slike so many different fucked up
crazy things and he had likethis ring and he was like, oh,
I'm gonna take this off, so itdoesn't count.
Choose the right CTR yeah crazyand he would take that off and
(05:11):
she got fully ass infatuatedwith him, but I mean you know,
so she had already, she had.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean.
So last podcast on the list isa big inspiration for me, so I
definitely plug them a lot.
They described her firstboyfriend as a gas station
vampire.
So she goes from him to theolder guy, daryl, who owned the
resort in Big Sur, which we saidwe definitely got to look at.
(05:38):
And what were we doing?
We were doing a train ride.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We were watching Modern Family.
It came up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
The resort in Big Sur which we said we definitely got
to look at.
And what were we we were doinga train ride.
We were watching Modern Familyit came up, yeah, and they
literally just how the fuckthey're doing a train ride in
Big Sur, right by Big Sur, so Idon't have to drive.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You can't be a passenger princess on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I can be a passenger princess on the train ride.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But I do want to drive some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We can both be passenger princesses If we ever
get famous.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Dude, I'm getting a convertible and driving that
Because all the curves andeverything.
You remember the Austin Powersmovie where he's like it's
almost like Northern Californialooks nothing like England.
It looks like the same with allthe curves.
Yes, oh yeah, but Big Sur isbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I want to go to Monterey, so she got like
completely infatuated, changedher religion.
Changed her religion, gotbaptized by Travis.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, then it was on then.
And then they had full, youknow vag, wanker sex, and then
it just became Vag wanker Well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I listen to two British ladies a lot.
It's vag wanker and I love theway they talk and I'm like you
know what Wanker's cool.
Love the way they talk and I'mlike you know what Wanker's cool
On a jet two holiday.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
On a jet two holiday.
Yeah, this was a fucking jettwo.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
50 pounds off per person.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, like so, and she was like traversing between
California and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Mesa and.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Arizona.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was like why the fuck?
I was going between Mesa andMesa.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The whole episode you was in a Mesa of Mesa.
I was, like I said, you know,been day drinking.
I think you had too manycervezas.
I did, yeah, on your Mesa Mesa,but you know what?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
My speech was clear.
I wasn't slurring.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I was.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You were slurring.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I was.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You was drunk you were doing Crown straight on the
rocks.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, well, yeah, and he's on the rocks again over
here.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Rocking.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Rocking into the night.
Rocking into the night.
So yeah, she's going in throughthe doggy door and instead of
Travis saying you know what, betyou crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We need to elaborate on the doggy door.
Lindsay, a little bit, yes,because that is insane to me.
Because, that is insane, to meInsane.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Look, I love you, but there is no body on this planet
.
I don't want you thatinfatuated with me.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Lindsay, I don't want to feel like I can control
Squeeze his middle ass through adoggy door.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now she was 110 pounds, so she was like the size
of a dog.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But she was completely infatuated.
He could do whatever he wantedand still call her back in for
the booty call at any time, buthe kept her on the hook the
whole time during all of thatbullshit Still, okay, I still.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I cannot wrap my brain around how she got she
forged a knife.
I cannot wrap my brain aroundhow she got she forged a knife
to stab him and the gun withouthis knowledge of it being there.
They're both naked and takingpictures in the shower.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Where did she put it?
I think she jumped and she's110 pounds.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, I know she did it but, I, just want to know
how it's a bag.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so she shows up with her little backpack.
They have all the little sexytime and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You think she just had that shit in her purse.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, she took the backpack into the bathroom right
, had the full plans, the gunand the backpack the knife and
the backpack.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This is allegedly speculating, guys, Allegedly
speculating guys Allegedlyspeculating.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, this is me over here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Don't never take my shit for real.
Don't tell him that though,we're speculating wildly.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Speculating.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wildly.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Ininebriatedly, but I think she showed up with a
backpack okay, it was both inthere with some clothes and some
bullshit and stuff that hedidn't even pay attention to
because he was too busy tryingto get his dick wet Right,
always Banging, banging, banging, playing, banging, banging.
Then the camera comes out,right and they're in the shower.
(09:31):
They're playing around.
She's like slips around andgrabs the fucking.
I think she grabbed the knife,juked him one good time probably
in the throat and thatincapacitated him to the point
where he was shocked enoughwhere she could just keep on
fucking going.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, this was definitely.
I mean, we know for a fact thatthis is a premeditated murder.
The evidence shows that theshot was after.
So do you think okay?
So she planned on getting there.
She planned on having one lasthurrah for him because he was
planning on going to Cancun withanother female and that just
did not go over well with Jodi,like whatsoever.
This was end game for her.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
The full breaking point.
She could not never have himand she thought that when he
went on this trip it wascompletely over and ain't nobody
going to have him but me, and Icould never get him.
So it's over.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And she.
So she brings the murderweapons with her and you know
they, they.
She goes to sleep because she'sbeen driving all night.
You know Gurley's got to take anap.
She's not a passenger, princess, she's.
She's doing the whole, thewhole show.
So she's got to take a nap.
She wakes up, they're doing thenasty, they're taking pictures.
(10:38):
Her butt cheeks are spread openlike my concho.
There's literally pictures ofher butthole, Like that was
evident.
Chocolate starfish Chocolate,starfish Hot dog flavored water
on Travis's end?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
okay, because he's got the hot dog.
Oh, you seen it there, lindsay,I did not, but you seen her
butthole.
Did you see the pictures?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, I did not.
I didn't go that far into thegoop.
It really happened yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But we did see some on the dock like there was some
bloody pictures and such.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, it's a little blurry.
You know, I just can't wrap myhead around how this 110-pound
woman committed this horrificmurder.
I know she did it, but I wantto know how.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, he thought fucking Alexander over here
thought that he had her and shewould never hurt him, right, and
he was supposedly abusive.
And he knew she was crazy andhe was abusive.
He was, but he knew that shewould never come at him like
that, so he was shocked.
He was shocked In that fuckingshower.
he was shocked and you saw thatlast picture, yeah, and he was
definitely fucking shocked shewould never do this to me and
(11:49):
all of a sudden juke, juke youknow I'm violent jay and I stab
people and then, like she gothim and it was just completely
shocking to the point to whereshe probably went fucking full
ham with that knife.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
First, well, that's what.
Yeah, that's what.
That's how I figured how itwent down.
She took that last picture ofhim probably holding the knife,
because she's crazy, jodi.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
How many?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
stabbings 27.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Then an ear to ear, throat slit, then a gunshot to
the head.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Right, that's what it was.
Evidentiary, yes, evident, likefor the forensics and all.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And you know so, she, her, her first story is she
wasn't there at all, that he wasjust sleeping with somebody
that looked like her, and didyou see?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
did you see in the video how she's?
Leaning over with her boobslike this oh yeah, she's trying
to play the boys over there overwith her boobs like this.
Oh yeah, she's trying to playthe boys over there.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
She's like look, I know y'all can't see me, but
I've got mine like Jesse youbetter quit it there you better
quit it there.
The cleave is hanging out.
She's bent over, she's like.
That does look like me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm like no, it's me.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But it's not me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I was going to call the family, but I just didn't
want to seem like I bugged themtoo many times.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Right.
And then the second story isthat ninjas, male and female,
came in shot Travis like,assassinated Travis and let her
go and told her never speak ofthis.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If she says anything, they're coming for her and the
whole fucking family Right.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Then three, two to three years later she's like
when she gets on the stand,she's like no, travis was
abusive and he was a pedophile.
Now in the sex tape that isplayed in open court, and
they're sexting.
They are Well, they're phonesexting.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, but it's recorded.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's recorded without Travis's knowledge.
She has a huge fake orgasm onit and he literally does say you
sound like a little 12 year oldgirl coming for the first time.
For the first.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That's creepy as fuck bro, that is creepy as shit.
How does that turn you on?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
how do you, why would you say something like that?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
what makes you want to say that and be turned on
about it, where you're stillgoing to diddle diddle?
Right right, right, ugh, ugh,yeah, for fuck's sake, yeah,
this is so toxic, and everylittle aspect of all of that.
And leading on and knowing thatyou can do whatever you want to
with this woman and she will befully involved in whatever you
call.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know how deep the crazy was.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, but he's been playing her on and off and just
dragging her in.
You can't do that On and offand just dragging her in.
You can't do that Leading heralong.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Women and men, because both parties can be
guilty of this same type ofbehavior.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Manipulation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do not pursue any kind of relationship with a
person that is unstable.
No, don't do it.
No matter how good the poon, nomatter how good the wink is the
blood hole or the hot dog orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do not lead on a person that you know is mentally
unstable.
It could be horrible for you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Be horrible for somebody in your family.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right, yeah, it's completely fucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean don't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, and just what he did?
Just keeping her involved anddrug along.
He knew what the fuck he wasdoing.
He knew it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was addicted to that poo.
He didn't want to let it go.
He wanted a good Mormon girlover here.
We'll say on the left, Neverdid settle.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He was in his 30s, lindsay.
I mean, come on, you never evensettled and you're that old and
he's supposed to be a Mormonwhere they're building the
kingdom of heaven.
I a.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Mormon, where they're building the kingdom of heaven.
I mean, you and I have bothbeen married and divorced by 30.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but religiously , though he was supposed to have
8, 9, 12, 15, 37 kids by nowShit.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And wives.
Yeah, why didn't he play that?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
card.
Why didn't he have sister wives?
He fucking should have moved onup north, what I think he
should have moved to um where'sthat?
Area where they have like thefucking.
I don't know we're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
we're going to deep dive into Mormonism in a little,
in a few episodes FuckingNebraska or some shit where you
can have like 37 wives.
I got so much content for youguys you have no idea Where's
that dude that had like 70 kids.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Are we going to talk about him?
Holy shit, there was one ofthem, wasn't that?
Warren Jeffs.
Oh yeah, oh fuck, I can't waitto talk about that.
It's got to be on the list.
Put him on the list.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's going to be like an eight-parter.
We're going to start with allthe people, all the players yes,
so much stuff.
And, like I told you, there's alot of true crime cases just in
the Mormon community that Ialready have logged into my
agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah and full on though we don't hack on religion
.
No, logged into my agenda.
Yeah and full on though wedon't hack on religion.
But at the same time, there's alot to hack on from the
religion, you know.
Because I mean honestly,mutilate little boys and shit
make them sing higher.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm saying Between Mormonism and Christianity and
Catholicism.
That's like my whole list, noshit.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Three years worth of content.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
There's a lot of religion and a lot of shit yeah,
a lot of shit.
And, like I said, you know,back in medieval times they
march on a field 5 000 people oneach side in the name of christ
.
Is like you're gonna do thisdude for this little piece of
land and then to tell them thatyou're leading them toward god,
but you're gonna kill off allthese people wait till I talk
about, about fucking Joan of Arcand her fucking right hand man
who was like, oh, I can't, oh,there's that too.
(17:05):
We're going that far back.
Oh, I'm excited about thatbecause, you know me, I'll be
watching the history way on downthe road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So y'all stay tuned for that, because that's wild,
that whole, that whole fuckingstory with her right hand man.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And whole that whole fucking story with her right
hand band.
Yeah, and you know it's, it's aconspiracy, that like joan of
art was just basically a fuckingschizophrenic right and she and
her right hand man was nasty.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh god, he was so gross, so and also I had
nightmares about that guy and,too, lindsey, like we're kind of
creeping up on so manydifferent things, like as far as
music goes and the bands andall that stuff.
Uh, 50th episode's coming uppretty soon and I'm manifesting
this because I talked to one ofthe touring drummers from a
pretty famous band and he'swanting to be on our podcast, so
(17:51):
hopefully that'll be a coolthing.
Maybe y'all check that out whenwe get there.
But just keep following alongand follow the bands and the
stories, everything Lindsey hasgoing on.
She is, I think, leveled up alittle bit over here.
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm just like I'm just bumbling, I'm trying to
yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know what, uh , what kind of levelage we've
gotten, but I I talked aboutfrom our first podcast is like
us, trying to get settled in andand learning how to do this,
this, the craft of doingpodcasting.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's a journey, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, I have to get calloused you know cause you,
you fucking really ruined meCause Jesse knew nothing about
this world.
You ruined me Before I broughthim into it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You have, and you know, I I kind of wanted to do a
Bailey Sarian thing, butdifferent.
I wanted to do metal and makeup, but I'm not comfortable
talking in front of a camera.
But I always hear these storiesthat I want to relate to Jesse
but I'm like I need to write afucking essay to explain to him.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And Lindsay, fucking kills it on makeup too, though
she does.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't have any on right now.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Everybody that is around her is jealous about her
style.
Well, you know it, girl, forreal.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But one bestie is coming over tomorrow early
before our little graduation.
So I have three main bestiesAaron, cindy and Jojo.
We're celebrating Jojo'sgraduation.
She is getting her degree.
She has been working for a verylong time.
And another bestie she's comingover and she's like, will you
(19:29):
do my hair and makeup?
I'm like, yes, girl.
And then the other bestie'scoming all the way from
Jacksonville.
She's bringing some smokedsalmon dip.
I'm excited I'm going to haveall three besties here in one
sitting.
And then my work bestie Stacyyes.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You better not call her like your bestie, bestie
Cause you know how many bestiescan women have before there's
somebody getting jealoussomewhere?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, everybody loves everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We're older, though, so it's a different thing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't have any besties, I don't have nobody, I.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't have any besties, I don't have nobody.
I got my band.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
JoJo, aaron and Cindy have been around a long time.
And they all know each otherand we've all hung out together.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So it's just a different occasion so the
togetherness has always beenthere.
And I mean what?
12 years now, right, Almost 13?
Yeah, we've been together 13years, Justin, but the whole
togetherness has always beenthere.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So it's a whole Cindy and I have been besties for 19
years, going on 20.
Aaron followed a few behind her, then Jojo followed right
behind Aaron, and so I mean,like these women have been in my
life a very long time.
And then Stacy, my work bestie,like I've literally I feel like
(20:41):
I've raised her from a child Ihave.
She started working with me at17 and she's now 27.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
She's kind of aspiring up to that fourth.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and we close together two nights a week.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's my work, bestie.
She seems cool.
I mean I'll always cut up andhave a great time with all of
them.
So it's in and she's like shecomes over that dog.
That one time.
It was really cool, Jolene.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
She's got a basset hound named Jolene, and that is
oh, that's my girl.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But back to the recap .
So the trial goes right Full on.
It was just insane, you know,like the, the prosecution, I
mean, you know and you wanted totalk about.
You wanted to talk about whathappened with the prosecutor in
this deal.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So, juan Martinez, yeah, oh my God, can you pause
it so I can go get my notes.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm not going to pause it, lindsay.
I said we're going raw andunedited, so you better run, run
, run, run, run run.
Lindsay went to go get hernotes and we're going raw and
unedited.
But like these stories andeverything here, I am by myself
now.
This is Drink About Jessie overhere at uh, yeah, I'm quiet
because I don't know what to say, because she left.
(21:49):
She's coming back, but I'mcompletely lost.
I don't even know what to saybecause she's gone now.
You guys, she better come back.
Come back to me.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, now better come back.
Come back to me.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm coming right back , okay, okay, now we're back, I
can yeah All right, so takeanother sip for me.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Juan Martinez was the prosecutor in the Joey Arias
trial, okay, and he wascutthroat, you saw it.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, aren't you glad I brought that up, Cause you am
I, am I your partner Cause.
I don't have this group ofbesties over here.
All I need is you, Lindsay.
All I need is you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
All I need is you, but they were there before you,
babe, sorry, no, no, no, no, no.
My circle really got a lotsmaller because it was super
(22:47):
huge when you first met me and Iwas it.
I just brought it down to.
I don't need you know, well, Imean well, okay, so me and I, we
have also like had our ownlives, yeah, away from each
other.
Like Jojo's moved to, uh,georgia, cindy was in Ocala.
Oh yeah, everybody peels offand I got, I got.
But we have these group textswhere I got routed eyes too, but
I just they don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
they don't come and chill with me and I'm kind of
jelly, not Because I just have agreat time with your friends.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I know you do, I do.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And they don't even make fun of me or, like you know
, talk shit about me in front ofmy face.
So I love it.
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
God, stop it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, back to the trial Juan Martinez.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He was cutthroat.
You can watch the docu.
There's several documentariesout there about it.
And he was cutthroat.
I mean, you saw oh he's nasty.
Yeah, he was nasty.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But he knew he had him at the beginning and he was
just like why am I fuckingwasting my time?
He was going out just cutthroatprosecuting and Jody Arias a
defendant was on the stand.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
How many days?
For 18 days, 18 days.
And she and he I mean she's.
It's crazy, because her answersback to him were so stupid at
some point oh, then he justcaught her in so many lies at
the same time he's like are youa liar?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
she's like not that I know of, but I have told some
lies.
And then all of a sudden, like20 minutes later, he's like did
you do this?
And then he calls, he recallsthe same thing and she tells a
different story and I'm likeyou're fucking done, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But he ended up getting disbarred because he
leaked information to a bloggerwith whom he was having a sexual
relationship with and lied toinvestigators about their
relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
The nookie really fucks up some shit.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It does Like, bro, you're literally prosecuting a
trial about a man who gotmurdered over some nookie, and
now you're getting disbarredover some nookie, nook, nook.
Wow, how the universe versesSpun.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, no, he felt like he was 10 foot tall in
bulletproof.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh yeah, you can tell he's big dick energy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You can tell, yeah, that trial, and he's like I can
get it.
I'm God right now.
Right now, this moment, I'mliving my best life.
And then the defense.
Tell them about the defenseLindsay Nerm, nermy Nermy Became
a comedian after this.
Yes, so one got disbarred andone became a comedian after this
trial.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Fuck sake.
Jodi Arias ruined everybody'slife, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
With her handstand.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah yeah, their circus act over there and there
was a couple of retrials becausethey would be deadlocked.
And remember there was onejuror who was like in leopard
print head to toe and I was likethat's going to be me, yeah you
did say that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I said she wants to get the hell out of here.
She can play bingo.
I'm not going to be in leopardprint, I'm still going to be in
like full goth metal it's goingto be goth metal.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
leopard print, goth metal leopard print Black on
black Black on black.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
With my winged eyeliner my lashes and my purple
hair Fuck yeah, we're going tobe cute old people.
Yeah, no matter what you wear,I'm still wearing the same thing
.
Speaking of that, you bought afucking a nightie the other day
and I was jealous about thatshit.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He is so jealous, you sent me a video Now.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
first you sent me a video of dudes wearing
nightgowns and I was like dude,I could do this.
And I was like I could feellike.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm comfortable Dudes wearing muumus.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm like, I feel like I was comfortable.
They did that shit like in thefucking 1800s Come on, fuck.
They wore jostling gowns andnightcaps.
Is it unacceptable for me towear a fucking nightie?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Do you want to wear my skeleton nightie?
I'll let you sleep in ittonight.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Really.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes.
So I went to Bell's Outletshopping for my oldest grandbaby
.
She starts school on Monday andthen her birthday is on
Saturday next week.
I was like I gotta go shoppingfor my oldest grandbaby and of
course I had to get a littleshit for myself.
I got some stuff for Si andafter I was leaving the skincare
(26:48):
section I got some face washand some shit like that, you
know, and I was like I waslooking at the nightgowns and
for some reason, like Snoopy,but there it was Snoopy's and
for some reason like Snoopy, butthere it was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Snoopy's back in style Everything was Snoopy, I
wasn't really big on it.
I mean I like the old stuff,but you know.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But there was a lot of Snoopy shit and then I was
searching and then there was oneblack skeleton, moo Moo, and it
was just for me and it was mysize.
And it was only seven bucks sothe thing is lindsey and it's
soft, fuck you.
And it's v-neck like I didn'teven have to cut the neck out
fuck you three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So listen, the thing is the thing is, the reason why
I'm infatuated with it isbecause you look so fucking good
in it and I'm just like I wantto wear this too because, like I
feel like I would look good too.
I don't know what I am.
No, I don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm hanging low as it is, so I get home from work
last night and we got avibration plate, so I wash my
face and wash all the makeup off.
I got my space buns theexercise plate yes, it's called
a vibration plate oh, okay andI've got my space buns in.
I've got my black skeletonmuumuu on.
It's my first Halloweenpurchase of the year, even
(28:02):
though I made notes to myself.
We don't need nothing, we don'tneed no more dude.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We don't need.
Don't do it, man, we go ham onHalloween.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And I was on the vibration plate.
Come and check us out forHalloween.
Everything's jiggling.
It's a party.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm like 190 pounds, I've got jiggles.
I've had four kids Everything'sjiggling on this vibration
plate and he's like where'd youget that?
I want it right now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh, we turned that into a thing.
That became a thing.
I might be telling too much,but it became a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I'll be TMIMI in on the pile.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, anyhow.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Raw uncut, non-edited .
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, so I mean.
So in that moo-moo on thevibration plate later.
I'm good, slappity, slap.
I'm not allowed to say that andget away with it, because I
don't edit none of this shit.
So fuck it, lindsay, I think.
So I don't know what I'm saying, I just had to do whatever.
It was kind of funny.
I don't know what I do, solet's wrap this thing up.
(29:01):
Fucking horrific ass.
Fucking shit.
Infatuation.
He drug her along.
Should not have it really hadfucked up careers.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It fucked up people.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He wound up unalived.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Brutally murdered by a 110-pound woman that could fit
through a doggy door.
But what I was saying isthere's one guy on there who was
on Travis's side, a friend whosaid he'd light up a room.
Stop saying that shit.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Not everybody lights up agoddamn room.
No, no, period, point blank.
Whatever Some people are piecesof shit behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All that being said, check us out on
drinkaboutsomethingsite.
Yes, and happy fucking drunkabout something we are so drunk
right now.
And we'll see you guys nextFriday.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Love you, bye.
Hey Jesse, happy Wednesday Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, now this is raw, uncut and unedited, so go ahead
and roll that intro.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Junk About Something you guys we're fixing
to kick it off, rightmotherfuckin' now.
Yes, it's almost like a littleEgyptian type of movement.
(00:37):
You know, yeah, what, what?
I'm walking like Egypt rightnow, like if Walk Like an
Egyptian was remade, it wouldhave to be with that song.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Did you make another drink for our little recap here?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I got a little something, something over here,
Lindsay, what you got, Well, solike.
So the last one because it wasthis is Drunk About Something.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Drunk About Something .
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So yeah, we compile things, we go raw and I usually
go pretty raw on Drunk AboutSomething.
So, yes, St Augustinedistillery met me today.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And you got that on ice and ice just dropped in our
maker, because we do record thisin our kitchen.
It's raw, unedited.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But yeah, so this is bourbon, st Augustine distillery
smoked bourbon.
Haven't had this one yet, soit's like that little kit that
you bought me you I have to buythe little fuel and I'm lazy and
I just didn't want to do itbecause it's like smoking, I'm
like I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I want to do all this , but we need to do it.
We need to make a video of itokay it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's gonna happen, but saint augustine's jewelry is
by far actually my favoritebourbon and I deserved it right.
Yes, yes, did I, absolutely Do.
I Did I.
Holy shit, lindsay, you've beenkilling it over here and I'm so
fucking proud of all yourachievements and everything, but
what are we going to recap?
You said you had some recap.
(01:55):
Oh, from last.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
From Jodi Arias.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh, the handstand.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So, jesse, he watched .
He watched the handstand, hewatched the interrogation where
Jodi did the handstand.
And she sang to herself and shelaughed to herself and she dug
through some trash.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, Wild and it took you an hour and a half to
find her singing.
Oh, holy Night, and that waslike 12 o'clock at night and I'd
been working.
I was tired.
I was like Lizzie, it's okay,and she's like no'clock at night
and I'd been working.
I was tired.
I was like Lizzie, it's okay,and she's like no, we're going
to find it.
I know it's there.
And you finally found it and itwas like woo, we found it.
And we were geeking for another30 minutes on that.
(02:36):
Yeah, but, before that and thatI mean Before that and I
actually said Jody's turnedupside down or something You're
like, why'd you do that?
And I was like she did thehandstand.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Listen.
I woke up sick as fuck thismorning and you know I was like
I wanted to review our pod and Iwas like what does this mean?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And then you said it like that I'm like oh.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I get it.
And then you said it like thatI'm like oh, I get it, but
that's like something that Itook.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I took it out.
I was like you know what?
My wife's not happy with mylittle joke there, so I just
took it out.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, I didn't get it right away, so I was like maybe
our listeners won't either.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
There.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But Jodi Arias literally does a handstand, that
way of thinking is fully on.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We have some of the most amazing listeners over here
.
Thank, you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Jodi Arias literally does the handstand in her
interrogation.
I can't get over it.
I can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's on our website right now too, so you can see
that of her doing it on ourwebsite.
Squires, squires, yeah, so goto drink about something.
Got side and you'll see herdoing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Absolutely Follow us.
So quick recap.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So Jody, she is, you know, a little middle-class
family.
She's doing okay, her family'scool, Whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
A fucking 12 year old pot farmer.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Lindsay come on.
I know but Travis, he's overhere.
But Travis, he's over here.
He's in a family of eight withsome meth head parents.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Big family.
They kind of failed.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He got sucked in Gets taken in by his Mormon
grandmother.
He gets really deep into thatfaith, wants to go by it.
But he has a little bit of asex.
I kind of want to say it's anaddiction, because when he meets
Jody and he realizes she's acrazy bitch, he don't let that
go.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I kind of brought it up a whole bunch because they
didn't do the Okay, they didn'thave normal conventional sex at
first for a while.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, they did oral, anal and grinding.
They did a grinding thing.
They didn't do the soaking.
So they should have changed nosoaking.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I was fixing to say they should have changed it
where they can cut a hole in thesheet and it doesn't count.
You know, Right, I got a holein the sheet, so I'm not
actually seeing you while it'slike so many different fucked up
crazy things and he had likethis ring and he was like, oh,
I'm gonna take this off, so itdoesn't count.
Choose the right CTR yeah crazyand he would take that off and
(05:11):
she got fully ass infatuatedwith him, but I mean you know,
so she had already, she had.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean.
So last podcast on the list isa big inspiration for me, so I
definitely plug them a lot.
They described her firstboyfriend as a gas station
vampire.
So she goes from him to theolder guy, daryl, who owned the
resort in Big Sur, which we saidwe definitely got to look at.
(05:38):
And what were we doing?
We were doing a train ride.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We were watching Modern Family.
It came up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
The resort in Big Sur which we said we definitely got
to look at.
And what were we we were doinga train ride.
We were watching Modern Familyit came up, yeah, and they
literally just how the fuckthey're doing a train ride in
Big Sur, right by Big Sur, so Idon't have to drive.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You can't be a passenger princess on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I can be a passenger princess on the train ride.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But I do want to drive some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We can both be passenger princesses If we ever
get famous.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Dude, I'm getting a convertible and driving that
Because all the curves andeverything.
You remember the Austin Powersmovie where he's like it's
almost like Northern Californialooks nothing like England.
It looks like the same with allthe curves.
Yes, oh yeah, but Big Sur isbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I want to go to Monterey, so she got like
completely infatuated, changedher religion.
Changed her religion, gotbaptized by Travis.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, then it was on then.
And then they had full, youknow vag, wanker sex, and then
it just became Vag wanker Well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I listen to two British ladies a lot.
It's vag wanker and I love theway they talk and I'm like you
know what Wanker's cool.
Love the way they talk and I'mlike you know what Wanker's cool
On a jet two holiday.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
On a jet two holiday.
Yeah, this was a fucking jettwo.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
50 pounds off per person.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, like so, and she was like traversing between
California and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Mesa and.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Arizona.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was like why the fuck?
I was going between Mesa andMesa.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The whole episode you was in a Mesa of Mesa.
I was, like I said, you know,been day drinking.
I think you had too manycervezas.
I did, yeah, on your Mesa Mesa,but you know what?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
My speech was clear.
I wasn't slurring.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I was.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You were slurring.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I was.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You was drunk you were doing Crown straight on the
rocks.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, well, yeah, and he's on the rocks again over
here.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Rocking.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Rocking into the night.
Rocking into the night.
So yeah, she's going in throughthe doggy door and instead of
Travis saying you know what, betyou crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We need to elaborate on the doggy door.
Lindsay, a little bit, yes,because that is insane to me.
Because, that is insane, to meInsane.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Look, I love you, but there is no body on this planet
.
I don't want you thatinfatuated with me.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Lindsay, I don't want to feel like I can control
Squeeze his middle ass through adoggy door.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now she was 110 pounds, so she was like the size
of a dog.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But she was completely infatuated.
He could do whatever he wantedand still call her back in for
the booty call at any time, buthe kept her on the hook the
whole time during all of thatbullshit Still, okay, I still.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I cannot wrap my brain around how she got she
forged a knife.
I cannot wrap my brain aroundhow she got she forged a knife
to stab him and the gun withouthis knowledge of it being there.
They're both naked and takingpictures in the shower.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Where did she put it?
I think she jumped and she's110 pounds.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, I know she did it but, I, just want to know
how it's a bag.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so she shows up with her little backpack.
They have all the little sexytime and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You think she just had that shit in her purse.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, she took the backpack into the bathroom right
, had the full plans, the gunand the backpack the knife and
the backpack.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This is allegedly speculating, guys, Allegedly
speculating guys Allegedlyspeculating.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, this is me over here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Don't never take my shit for real.
Don't tell him that though,we're speculating wildly.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Speculating.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wildly.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Ininebriatedly, but I think she showed up with a
backpack okay, it was both inthere with some clothes and some
bullshit and stuff that hedidn't even pay attention to
because he was too busy tryingto get his dick wet Right,
always Banging, banging, banging, playing, banging, banging.
Then the camera comes out,right and they're in the shower.
(09:31):
They're playing around.
She's like slips around andgrabs the fucking.
I think she grabbed the knife,juked him one good time probably
in the throat and thatincapacitated him to the point
where he was shocked enoughwhere she could just keep on
fucking going.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, this was definitely.
I mean, we know for a fact thatthis is a premeditated murder.
The evidence shows that theshot was after.
So do you think okay?
So she planned on getting there.
She planned on having one lasthurrah for him because he was
planning on going to Cancun withanother female and that just
did not go over well with Jodi,like whatsoever.
This was end game for her.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
The full breaking point.
She could not never have himand she thought that when he
went on this trip it wascompletely over and ain't nobody
going to have him but me, and Icould never get him.
So it's over.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And she.
So she brings the murderweapons with her and you know
they, they.
She goes to sleep because she'sbeen driving all night.
You know Gurley's got to take anap.
She's not a passenger, princess, she's.
She's doing the whole, thewhole show.
So she's got to take a nap.
She wakes up, they're doing thenasty, they're taking pictures.
(10:38):
Her butt cheeks are spread openlike my concho.
There's literally pictures ofher butthole, Like that was
evident.
Chocolate starfish Chocolate,starfish Hot dog flavored water
on Travis's end?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
okay, because he's got the hot dog.
Oh, you seen it there, lindsay,I did not, but you seen her
butthole.
Did you see the pictures?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, I did not.
I didn't go that far into thegoop.
It really happened yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But we did see some on the dock like there was some
bloody pictures and such.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, it's a little blurry.
You know, I just can't wrap myhead around how this 110-pound
woman committed this horrificmurder.
I know she did it, but I wantto know how.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, he thought fucking Alexander over here
thought that he had her and shewould never hurt him, right, and
he was supposedly abusive.
And he knew she was crazy andhe was abusive.
He was, but he knew that shewould never come at him like
that, so he was shocked.
He was shocked In that fuckingshower.
he was shocked and you saw thatlast picture, yeah, and he was
definitely fucking shocked shewould never do this to me and
(11:49):
all of a sudden juke, juke youknow I'm violent jay and I stab
people and then, like she gothim and it was just completely
shocking to the point to whereshe probably went fucking full
ham with that knife.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
First, well, that's what.
Yeah, that's what.
That's how I figured how itwent down.
She took that last picture ofhim probably holding the knife,
because she's crazy, jodi.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
How many?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
stabbings 27.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Then an ear to ear, throat slit, then a gunshot to
the head.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Right, that's what it was.
Evidentiary, yes, evident, likefor the forensics and all.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And you know so, she, her, her first story is she
wasn't there at all, that he wasjust sleeping with somebody
that looked like her, and didyou see?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
did you see in the video how she's?
Leaning over with her boobslike this oh yeah, she's trying
to play the boys over there overwith her boobs like this.
Oh yeah, she's trying to playthe boys over there.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
She's like look, I know y'all can't see me, but
I've got mine like Jesse youbetter quit it there you better
quit it there.
The cleave is hanging out.
She's bent over, she's like.
That does look like me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm like no, it's me.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But it's not me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I was going to call the family, but I just didn't
want to seem like I bugged themtoo many times.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Right.
And then the second story isthat ninjas, male and female,
came in shot Travis like,assassinated Travis and let her
go and told her never speak ofthis.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If she says anything, they're coming for her and the
whole fucking family Right.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Then three, two to three years later she's like
when she gets on the stand,she's like no, travis was
abusive and he was a pedophile.
Now in the sex tape that isplayed in open court, and
they're sexting.
They are Well, they're phonesexting.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, but it's recorded.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's recorded without Travis's knowledge.
She has a huge fake orgasm onit and he literally does say you
sound like a little 12 year oldgirl coming for the first time.
For the first.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That's creepy as fuck bro, that is creepy as shit.
How does that turn you on?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
how do you, why would you say something like that?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
what makes you want to say that and be turned on
about it, where you're stillgoing to diddle diddle?
Right right, right, ugh, ugh,yeah, for fuck's sake, yeah,
this is so toxic, and everylittle aspect of all of that.
And leading on and knowing thatyou can do whatever you want to
with this woman and she will befully involved in whatever you
call.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know how deep the crazy was.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, but he's been playing her on and off and just
dragging her in.
You can't do that On and offand just dragging her in.
You can't do that Leading heralong.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Women and men, because both parties can be
guilty of this same type ofbehavior.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Manipulation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do not pursue any kind of relationship with a
person that is unstable.
No, don't do it.
No matter how good the poon, nomatter how good the wink is the
blood hole or the hot dog orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do not lead on a person that you know is mentally
unstable.
It could be horrible for you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Be horrible for somebody in your family.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right, yeah, it's completely fucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean don't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, and just what he did?
Just keeping her involved anddrug along.
He knew what the fuck he wasdoing.
He knew it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was addicted to that poo.
He didn't want to let it go.
He wanted a good Mormon girlover here.
We'll say on the left, Neverdid settle.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He was in his 30s, lindsay.
I mean, come on, you never evensettled and you're that old and
he's supposed to be a Mormonwhere they're building the
kingdom of heaven.
I a.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Mormon, where they're building the kingdom of heaven.
I mean, you and I have bothbeen married and divorced by 30.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but religiously , though he was supposed to have
8, 9, 12, 15, 37 kids by nowShit.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And wives.
Yeah, why didn't he play that?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
card.
Why didn't he have sister wives?
He fucking should have moved onup north, what I think he
should have moved to um where'sthat?
Area where they have like thefucking.
I don't know we're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
we're going to deep dive into Mormonism in a little,
in a few episodes FuckingNebraska or some shit where you
can have like 37 wives.
I got so much content for youguys you have no idea Where's
that dude that had like 70 kids.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Are we going to talk about him?
Holy shit, there was one ofthem, wasn't that?
Warren Jeffs.
Oh yeah, oh fuck, I can't waitto talk about that.
It's got to be on the list.
Put him on the list.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's going to be like an eight-parter.
We're going to start with allthe people, all the players yes,
so much stuff.
And, like I told you, there's alot of true crime cases just in
the Mormon community that Ialready have logged into my
agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah and full on though we don't hack on religion
.
No, logged into my agenda.
Yeah and full on though wedon't hack on religion.
But at the same time, there's alot to hack on from the
religion, you know.
Because I mean honestly,mutilate little boys and shit
make them sing higher.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm saying Between Mormonism and Christianity and
Catholicism.
That's like my whole list, noshit.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Three years worth of content.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
There's a lot of religion and a lot of shit yeah,
a lot of shit.
And, like I said, you know,back in medieval times they
march on a field 5 000 people oneach side in the name of christ
.
Is like you're gonna do thisdude for this little piece of
land and then to tell them thatyou're leading them toward god,
but you're gonna kill off allthese people wait till I talk
about, about fucking Joan of Arcand her fucking right hand man
who was like, oh, I can't, oh,there's that too.
(17:05):
We're going that far back.
Oh, I'm excited about thatbecause, you know me, I'll be
watching the history way on downthe road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So y'all stay tuned for that, because that's wild,
that whole, that whole fuckingstory with her right hand man.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And whole that whole fucking story with her right
hand band.
Yeah, and you know it's, it's aconspiracy, that like joan of
art was just basically a fuckingschizophrenic right and she and
her right hand man was nasty.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh god, he was so gross, so and also I had
nightmares about that guy and,too, lindsey, like we're kind of
creeping up on so manydifferent things, like as far as
music goes and the bands andall that stuff.
Uh, 50th episode's coming uppretty soon and I'm manifesting
this because I talked to one ofthe touring drummers from a
pretty famous band and he'swanting to be on our podcast, so
(17:51):
hopefully that'll be a coolthing.
Maybe y'all check that out whenwe get there.
But just keep following alongand follow the bands and the
stories, everything Lindsey hasgoing on.
She is, I think, leveled up alittle bit over here.
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm just like I'm just bumbling, I'm trying to
yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't know what, uh , what kind of levelage we've
gotten, but I I talked aboutfrom our first podcast is like
us, trying to get settled in andand learning how to do this,
this, the craft of doingpodcasting.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's a journey, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, I have to get calloused you know cause you,
you fucking really ruined meCause Jesse knew nothing about
this world.
You ruined me Before I broughthim into it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You have, and you know, I I kind of wanted to do a
Bailey Sarian thing, butdifferent.
I wanted to do metal and makeup, but I'm not comfortable
talking in front of a camera.
But I always hear these storiesthat I want to relate to Jesse
but I'm like I need to write afucking essay to explain to him.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And Lindsay, fucking kills it on makeup too, though
she does.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't have any on right now.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Everybody that is around her is jealous about her
style.
Well, you know it, girl, forreal.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But one bestie is coming over tomorrow early
before our little graduation.
So I have three main bestiesAaron, cindy and Jojo.
We're celebrating Jojo'sgraduation.
She is getting her degree.
She has been working for a verylong time.
And another bestie she's comingover and she's like, will you
(19:29):
do my hair and makeup?
I'm like, yes, girl.
And then the other bestie'scoming all the way from
Jacksonville.
She's bringing some smokedsalmon dip.
I'm excited I'm going to haveall three besties here in one
sitting.
And then my work bestie Stacyyes.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You better not call her like your bestie, bestie
Cause you know how many bestiescan women have before there's
somebody getting jealoussomewhere?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, everybody loves everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We're older, though, so it's a different thing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't have any besties, I don't have nobody, I.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't have any besties, I don't have nobody.
I got my band.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
JoJo, aaron and Cindy have been around a long time.
And they all know each otherand we've all hung out together.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So it's just a different occasion so the
togetherness has always beenthere.
And I mean what?
12 years now, right, Almost 13?
Yeah, we've been together 13years, Justin, but the whole
togetherness has always beenthere.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So it's a whole Cindy and I have been besties for 19
years, going on 20.
Aaron followed a few behind her, then Jojo followed right
behind Aaron, and so I mean,like these women have been in my
life a very long time.
And then Stacy, my work bestie,like I've literally I feel like
(20:41):
I've raised her from a child Ihave.
She started working with me at17 and she's now 27.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
She's kind of aspiring up to that fourth.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and we close together two nights a week.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's my work, bestie.
She seems cool.
I mean I'll always cut up andhave a great time with all of
them.
So it's in and she's like shecomes over that dog.
That one time.
It was really cool, Jolene.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
She's got a basset hound named Jolene, and that is
oh, that's my girl.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But back to the recap .
So the trial goes right Full on.
It was just insane, you know,like the, the prosecution, I
mean, you know and you wanted totalk about.
You wanted to talk about whathappened with the prosecutor in
this deal.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So, juan Martinez, yeah, oh my God, can you pause
it so I can go get my notes.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm not going to pause it, lindsay.
I said we're going raw andunedited, so you better run, run
, run, run, run run.
Lindsay went to go get hernotes and we're going raw and
unedited.
But like these stories andeverything here, I am by myself
now.
This is Drink About Jessie overhere at uh, yeah, I'm quiet
because I don't know what to say, because she left.
(21:49):
She's coming back, but I'mcompletely lost.
I don't even know what to saybecause she's gone now.
You guys, she better come back.
Come back to me.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, now better come back.
Come back to me.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm coming right back , okay, okay, now we're back, I
can yeah All right, so takeanother sip for me.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Juan Martinez was the prosecutor in the Joey Arias
trial, okay, and he wascutthroat, you saw it.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, aren't you glad I brought that up, Cause you am
I, am I your partner Cause.
I don't have this group ofbesties over here.
All I need is you, Lindsay.
All I need is you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
All I need is you, but they were there before you,
babe, sorry, no, no, no, no, no.
My circle really got a lotsmaller because it was super
(22:47):
huge when you first met me and Iwas it.
I just brought it down to.
I don't need you know, well, Imean well, okay, so me and I, we
have also like had our ownlives, yeah, away from each
other.
Like Jojo's moved to, uh,georgia, cindy was in Ocala.
Oh yeah, everybody peels offand I got, I got.
But we have these group textswhere I got routed eyes too, but
I just they don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
they don't come and chill with me and I'm kind of
jelly, not Because I just have agreat time with your friends.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I know you do, I do.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And they don't even make fun of me or, like you know
, talk shit about me in front ofmy face.
So I love it.
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
God, stop it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, back to the trial Juan Martinez.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He was cutthroat.
You can watch the docu.
There's several documentariesout there about it.
And he was cutthroat.
I mean, you saw oh he's nasty.
Yeah, he was nasty.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But he knew he had him at the beginning and he was
just like why am I fuckingwasting my time?
He was going out just cutthroatprosecuting and Jody Arias a
defendant was on the stand.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
How many days?
For 18 days, 18 days.
And she and he I mean she's.
It's crazy, because her answersback to him were so stupid at
some point oh, then he justcaught her in so many lies at
the same time he's like are youa liar?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
she's like not that I know of, but I have told some
lies.
And then all of a sudden, like20 minutes later, he's like did
you do this?
And then he calls, he recallsthe same thing and she tells a
different story and I'm likeyou're fucking done, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
But he ended up getting disbarred because he
leaked information to a bloggerwith whom he was having a sexual
relationship with and lied toinvestigators about their
relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
The nookie really fucks up some shit.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It does Like, bro, you're literally prosecuting a
trial about a man who gotmurdered over some nookie, and
now you're getting disbarredover some nookie, nook, nook.
Wow, how the universe versesSpun.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, no, he felt like he was 10 foot tall in
bulletproof.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh yeah, you can tell he's big dick energy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You can tell, yeah, that trial, and he's like I can
get it.
I'm God right now.
Right now, this moment, I'mliving my best life.
And then the defense.
Tell them about the defenseLindsay Nerm, nermy Nermy Became
a comedian after this.
Yes, so one got disbarred andone became a comedian after this
trial.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Fuck sake.
Jodi Arias ruined everybody'slife, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
With her handstand.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah yeah, their circus act over there and there
was a couple of retrials becausethey would be deadlocked.
And remember there was onejuror who was like in leopard
print head to toe and I was likethat's going to be me, yeah you
did say that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I said she wants to get the hell out of here.
She can play bingo.
I'm not going to be in leopardprint, I'm still going to be in
like full goth metal it's goingto be goth metal.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
leopard print, goth metal leopard print Black on
black Black on black.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
With my winged eyeliner my lashes and my purple
hair Fuck yeah, we're going tobe cute old people.
Yeah, no matter what you wear,I'm still wearing the same thing
.
Speaking of that, you bought afucking a nightie the other day
and I was jealous about thatshit.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He is so jealous, you sent me a video Now.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
first you sent me a video of dudes wearing
nightgowns and I was like dude,I could do this.
And I was like I could feellike.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm comfortable Dudes wearing muumus.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm like, I feel like I was comfortable.
They did that shit like in thefucking 1800s Come on, fuck.
They wore jostling gowns andnightcaps.
Is it unacceptable for me towear a fucking nightie?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Do you want to wear my skeleton nightie?
I'll let you sleep in ittonight.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Really.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes.
So I went to Bell's Outletshopping for my oldest grandbaby
.
She starts school on Monday andthen her birthday is on
Saturday next week.
I was like I gotta go shoppingfor my oldest grandbaby and of
course I had to get a littleshit for myself.
I got some stuff for Si andafter I was leaving the skincare
(26:48):
section I got some face washand some shit like that, you
know, and I was like I waslooking at the nightgowns and
for some reason, like Snoopy,but there it was Snoopy's and
for some reason like Snoopy, butthere it was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Snoopy's back in style Everything was Snoopy, I
wasn't really big on it.
I mean I like the old stuff,but you know.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But there was a lot of Snoopy shit and then I was
searching and then there was oneblack skeleton, moo Moo, and it
was just for me and it was mysize.
And it was only seven bucks sothe thing is lindsey and it's
soft, fuck you.
And it's v-neck like I didn'teven have to cut the neck out
fuck you three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So listen, the thing is the thing is, the reason why
I'm infatuated with it isbecause you look so fucking good
in it and I'm just like I wantto wear this too because, like I
feel like I would look good too.
I don't know what I am.
No, I don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm hanging low as it is, so I get home from work
last night and we got avibration plate, so I wash my
face and wash all the makeup off.
I got my space buns theexercise plate yes, it's called
a vibration plate oh, okay andI've got my space buns in.
I've got my black skeletonmuumuu on.
It's my first Halloweenpurchase of the year, even
(28:02):
though I made notes to myself.
We don't need nothing, we don'tneed no more dude.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We don't need.
Don't do it, man, we go ham onHalloween.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And I was on the vibration plate.
Come and check us out forHalloween.
Everything's jiggling.
It's a party.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm like 190 pounds, I've got jiggles.
I've had four kids Everything'sjiggling on this vibration
plate and he's like where'd youget that?
I want it right now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh, we turned that into a thing.
That became a thing.
I might be telling too much,but it became a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I'll be TMIMI in on the pile.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, anyhow.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Raw uncut, non-edited .
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, so I mean.
So in that moo-moo on thevibration plate later.
I'm good, slappity, slap.
I'm not allowed to say that andget away with it, because I
don't edit none of this shit.
So fuck it, lindsay, I think.
So I don't know what I'm saying, I just had to do whatever.
It was kind of funny.
I don't know what I do, solet's wrap this thing up.
(29:01):
Fucking horrific ass.
Fucking shit.
Infatuation.
He drug her along.
Should not have it really hadfucked up careers.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It fucked up people.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He wound up unalived.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Brutally murdered by a 110-pound woman that could fit
through a doggy door.
But what I was saying isthere's one guy on there who was
on Travis's side, a friend whosaid he'd light up a room.
Stop saying that shit.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Not everybody lights up agoddamn room.
No, no, period, point blank.
Whatever Some people are piecesof shit behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
All that being said, check us out on
drinkaboutsomethingsite.
Yes, and happy fucking drunkabout something we are so drunk
right now.
And we'll see you guys nextFriday.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Love you, bye.
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