EPISODE 27: Evil Ken and Barbie PART 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Jesse, hello Lindsay, Guess what, what?
We have a guest with us.
We do.
I just want to say hey, shelly.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey Shelly, hey everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up?
We got a guest.
It's my sister, it's my twistedsister.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We have an audience too.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
She is so twisted I am not twisted.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
Yeah, I've known you a long,have not twisted a little bit, a
little bit, a little bit yeah,I've known you a long time, so a
little bit so, hey, I want totell you what I'm drinking okay,
well, I was about to ask you,but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
What's drinking?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I took a travelers dude.
I'm doing like travelers on ice.
It's a traveler's journey,travelers and that's the whiskey
right yeah, that's the whiskey.
Right, yeah, it's the whiskey,but it tastes like a bourbon.
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
The Chris Stapleton.
It is so good On ice.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Hang on, let me take a little sippy poos, but I'm
going to ask my sister.
No disrespect to Miss Lindsayover here, my wonderful wife.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Shelly, what are you drinking?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Mike's Hard Lemonade and Coconut Rum yes, dried
lemonade and coconut rum yes,mixed together.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's kind of like your signature cocktail,
definitely is.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I'm already digging this because while she's talking
, I can drink.
I'm liking this shit.
There you go.
This is awesome, so trifectathis episode and I want to ask
Miss Lindsay what she's drinkingover there.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm drinking.
Oh, I've got a black, cherry,white claw.
No, no, no, this vista baywe're on all the drinks and then
I'm following it up with anatural lime vista bay, that's
the one that I've talked aboutbefore.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's a natural lime and it tastes like a crisp
sprite natural bambalam.
Yes, I love it.
It's delicious, yes this is sofucking good I'm gonna get my
I'm to get my sister to try thisshit over here.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm going to get her to try it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, you don't want to try it.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I taste it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I want to get her to try it.
Okay, you guys ready she'sgoing to try it.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
She's going to travel with me.
Just a little sippers, you justgot my thing.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Welcome to my world, bitch.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm sorry Are you, okay, this is why you're hairy
right here.
It makes the beard grow.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So she's new, first time being on the pod.
Yes, and we're excited.
I got to teach her to lean intothe mic just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
She's learning.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
She's learning.
Andsey's got this crazy assstory that um we're not.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
We both don't know the stambo I have no clue so
today we're gonna go to canadaoh canada yes, canada, and we're
gonna be talking about thecannon barbie killers so what
the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
like there's a cannon , barbie killer.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I will show y'all pictures and once we get a
little halfway into the story.
But um, their names are paulbernardo and carla homoka.
This is a very famous case,especially in canada especially
shit about fuck so there waslike ken and barbie, though
killers did they look like?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
oh yeah they're beautiful oh yeah, so were they
weightlifters or something?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, no, that's.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I got that one for later too, though, ok, but so I
want to recap just a little biton our three part that we just
put out, finished putting out onthe Morris murderers.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, what a fucked up journey.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
We definitely want to recommend the See no Evil
documentary.
We watched that after we weredone.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, after you tell the whole story about all
that, it really portrayed thatjust really well.
It was right and it's not verygory, so it's, it's.
It doesn't go into the app.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean it goes into the horror, but it's.
It's not as awful as the actualit's a pg-13.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes, pg-13, for sure, but they they had the pictures
of the kids the actual children?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
yeah, actually in it.
I was like those had thepictures of the kids and all the
stuff actually in it.
I was like those are thepictures that I found.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Those are real.
Shelly doesn't know anythingabout that.
She has to listen to ourpodcast as she knows.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, you'll have to listen to that one.
It's a three-parter, so ifyou're new here, this is episode
.
What are we on now, 26?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, pick up sticks.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
And we have a drink or three clink and we talk about
true crime and then at the endwe plug a band that we're
digging and that we think youshould listen to as well.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And if you want to go ahead and cue that intro song,
Well, I'm going to do it, but Imean I'm not sure if we're ready
.
But I mean I'm not sure ifwe're ready.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We're ready.
We're ready.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
My sister's in the hot seat over here and I'm
loving it.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I am loving this.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
She is so nervous.
Look at her I'm the mosttalkative person ever, I'm going
to get you turtlings here in aminute Take a few sippy poos.
Ken and Barbie, though I'm allready.
So we were on like this JanisJoplin trip earlier and you were

(04:54):
singing earlier.
We did the mic check to likeTake another little bit of my
heart now, baby.
It was so fun.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Wasn't it it stuck in my head.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
We were out on the back porch Just a minute ago and
we were like hanging out.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And Lindsey's rocking the shirt.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Janice Got her on.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And so we only have Actually we only have two mics.
So I'm leaning into my sister,I'm like, hey, you gotta get a
little bit closer, because yougotta get a little closer To my
heart now, baby.
I don't know.
Uh, is that right?
Is that right?
Yeah, don't touch me thoughwe're beating the shit out of
each other because we're we beateach other's asses while we
were growing up definitely did.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
You got scars, I got scars, mine are all mental I'm
gonna show them a picture of uh,our, our subjects this week
like faces, yeah look at themthey're definitely ken and
barbie looking they are so kenand barbie looking very years
ago, very 80s.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, there we go I wish I had her hair yeah, that's
the 80s hair I'm seeing here,so let me ask you a question
okay, come on what made you feelold this week?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
you know what?
I'm gonna throw this over hereto my sister.
She's here with me.
She's in the hot seat this time, Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, you tell me what yours was, and then Shelly
will tell me what hers is.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, here's what I'm going to do.
Here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to bring this outright here.
Okay, I couldn't get enoughsleep this week.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, you could.
You were lame as fuck.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
all week I was super lame, super blah could not get
enough sleep.
I was like why am I so damntired?
Didn't you work a lot of hours.
This week I worked so manyfucking hours.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm always working.
You just couldn't shut yourselfdown.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, it was constant go and then when I could, it
wasn't good enough.
So never was good enough.
So that's me.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I'm going gonna ask my sister what made you feel
old this week?
Well, all I do is sleep, but um, I would say my knee still is
making me feel old she is thesister we talked about in a
previous pod yes, we did talkabout it already she is here.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yep, she got attacked by a hurricane, a hurricane
during a tornado hurricane.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Or during a hurricane , a tornado came through our
neighborhood and a pine treefell on the garage.
We were all hanging out inplaying uno, because, because
we're in florida, we havehurricane parties, it's whatever
we definitely have hurricaneparties and um we were tripping
out like three o'clock in themorning.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'm picking my sister up from the hospital.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, it was rough, it was insane.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So the whole porch fucking just collapsed on my
sister.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
It was the garage.
A big pine tree fell on top ofus.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It was insane.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
It was insane.
You're laughing, but it wasn'tlaughing.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
The reason why I'm laughing about it is because I
can fuck with my sister a littlebit over here.
We're like that, we've got thatkind of relationship.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You called me Lieutenant Dan for days.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I did.
Lieutenant Dan ain't got butone leg.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well for me, so I've been working out regularly.
Yes, I've been working outregularly for about three years
and me and one of my besties, wedid this workout.
It was insanity, and Irestarted every few months and I
still haven't got past themodifier track.
No, but, lindsay, you're the.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Zumba queen.
But, I haven't got past themodifier track.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
She is always on it, works out every single day.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
And works on her feet every single day.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I can tell it She'd be looking good.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
She's got a nice booty.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thanks guys, but yeah , I want to get past that
modifier track.
I want to be.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You want to defeat it , I want to defeat it, so I'm
going to keep it going.
We're going to keep it going.
It's goals, it's goals.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, like when I do defeat it, what's next?
What am I gonna do to challengemyself either one?
Of our stuff doesn't rank up,nowhere near.
No, I don't work out like her.
I mean I'll work a lot aboutsleep.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm complaining about lindsey's like I just I want to
be.
Defeat the modifier.
I want to.
I want to kick shaunti's ass.
Yeah, that's who's theindestructor.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
So it makes you feel old that you can't level up past
the modifier.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I would never, would never, lose the modifier track.
There's so much going on in thegym, lunging and all kinds of
shit I would be on like what'sless than the modifier track.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Can I just hang out on the couch and watch?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
this video.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I think that's me with workout videos, because
you're actually up and doingthat shit.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I would just watch the gym as well, though, and do
the stair machine there threetimes a week.
That's why that butt's likethat.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I would just watch the video and be like fuck it, I
need a donut Because I'm tired.
This is crazy.
I don't want to do this.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, it's a 30-minute workout.
When I get to about 25, mystomach starts growling.
I'm like, all right, what am Igoing to eat?
But I still try to wait until11, after Silas is done with all
his schoolwork.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Right, and it's hard some days.
We shot this right out of thegate really fast, so I'm ready
for Ken and Barbie though.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, did you want to recap a little bit on Spookalla
?
Because you said you were goingto.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh, you guys just did do that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Where Corey Taylor told you you were fine.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
He did.
Corey Taylor told me I was fineat Spook House.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I saw you guys' pictures.
It looked like y'all had agreat time.
That was so amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
We did so.
We're there as Silas World.
We're letting him run around.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Silas was the man.
We wanted to talk to peopleabout our true crime stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
So we're checking out people, checking out their
merch, buying merch and justsharing, you know, and that's
what we want to do.
And we hung out with a couplemovie stars, we got to hang out
with bob from beetlejuice yesthat was amazing keifer
sutherland was there too, but wenever saw.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, keifer was there a little bit cool.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
There was just so many people there and cory
taylor's over there and I snucka picture like right when we got
in.
Oh, I stalked him all daylindsey had to go to the
bathroom because we had drovefrom tampa yes, yeah well.
So the photobomb came later on.
Then it was like I'm sneaking apicture of cory.
Then I'm like I'm good, I got apicture of cory taylor and I'm

(10:58):
gonna be good, he's gonna playlater on some acoustic stuff,
right?
So I'm walking around and wehave.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
We have already grabbed our seats for his show,
which was still two hours awaydid not know that cory was over
there right beside us where wewere sitting I walked over to a
little perform.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, they had like a cherry bomb they had like a
little scream set up like, uh,the the scream silhouettes type
set up.
So I walked over there to justcheck it out and I was goofing
in front of Lindsay.
I walked by her goofing just towait.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
He noticed you goofing.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, she did, and I was like ducked down because
this dude Because he wasvideoing.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
This dude had a video camera.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
He had his phone up, he was videoing and he's like,
oh, you're fine, bro, and it was.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Corey Taylor.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Corey Taylor said I was fine.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
And that's your story .

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I was like, oh my God , that was just Corey Taylor
right there, told me I was fineand I was like, where is Jesse
going?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So I'm following him with my eyes.
And then they darted over tothe left and I'm watching Corey
Taylor video his wife, and I'mlike, oh my God.
And then I talked to the couplethat was sitting with us.
I'm like, oh, corey Taylor'sbehind you.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, you're right behind him.
We invited a couple to sit withour table just to hang out with
us.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
We never found out their real names.
No, I was calling them stupidnames.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Mike and Sophia, yeah , and we went to different
schools together, right?
So that's what I told.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Silas.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
We're old friends.
We went other so I sat downlike lindsey.
You know every woman in thiswhole building wants cory taylor
, but cory taylor just told methat I was fine, so I was.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So if you don't know who cory taylor is, he is the
singer for stone sour slipknotand he does solo work as well.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Cmft cory, motherfucking taylor yeah, and
so we've seen him at louder thanThan Life.
He was serving, he was doingalcohol, he was doing drinks.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, he was doing drinks there at a bar.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
We've seen Corey Taylor as Stone Sour.
We've seen Corey Taylor asSlipknot.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Six times.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Six times.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes, six.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
How do y'all keep?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
up with that Five.
Yeah, we're six.
Yes, altogether, and on our10th time he told me that Jesse
was hot.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, he said, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Fine, get out of my way, dude.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, I'm trying to hang on to this, I'm trying to
video.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, okay, and we had a debate.
He didn't say I was hot.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
He said I of context, but still context.
That's right.
We had a debate to see who wasshorter him or David.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Draymond from Disturbed, because we've also
met.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
David Draymond.
They're the same fucking height.
And Jesse was like, oh no,David's smaller, David's smaller
.
So I Googled it and they're thesame exact height.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, so I met David at it was the 16?
, 15.
15.
2015.
David is this little short dudefrom Disturbed Corey.
Taylor is this little shortdude from Slipknot.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
So how tall are they 5'7"?
Yeah, that's not too tall.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
That's only three inches taller than me.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm not going to say that's super short, guys.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, I guess to us though we're thinking, these are
rock icons.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
They're huge when they're on stage, they always
look bigger.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And then we looked up Jim Root and he's like 8'6",
6'12".
He was like 6'7" or somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
If you're in Jacksonville go to Jack Ravis,
go to the local shows.
Jim Root shows up sometimes.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Jack Ravis is awesome .

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, Very fun.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
All right, are you guys ready to get started on
this bullshit?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
so ready.
I don't know what.
I don't know.
Ken and barbie, I'm not ready.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
All right, there's a ken and barbie thing yeah,
because I'm just not ready whatdid you say 20 years ago?
Oh no, um.
So it was in the late 80s okayoh, yeah, well, I still think 20
years ago.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, we do, and it was but 40 years exactly yeah,
yeah, I mean I'm almost ready,but I'm just not ready carla
leanne homolka was born may 4th.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
May the 4th be with you may the 4, fourth, but fuck
her.
We'll go ahead and say that in1970 in all right, I'm gonna
fuck this up.
Missuswaga ontario, canada.
Is that how you think you saythat?
that's how yeah, that's like themississippi of canada he can't
mississauga yeah, I don't knowmississauga, ontario, canada, to

(15:21):
dorothy seger and it's spelledlike Karel, but it's pronounced
Carl.
But yeah, it's spelledK-A-R-E-L but it is pronounced
Carl.
I watched the documentary.
I looked it up Carl with a K.
Yes, so Dorothy Seeger and CarlHermalka are the parents.
She had two sisters, tammy andLori.
Carla was very smart, highlyintelligent, like.

(15:44):
She had an IQ of like 130.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, and she did very well in school, but she was
a little strange, to say theleast.
Her childhood friend Renya,which I think that's a really
cool name, renya.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, I like the Halakamiki Maka last name they
got.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
No, fuck them Okay.
So Rydia says that one day,when her and Carla were playing,
carla talked her into seeing ifher pet hamster, george, could
fly.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh, that's not going to come out.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
She makes a parachute out of a pillowcase, straps it
onto George and drops it out ofan upstairs window.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Already statistic as a child.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
And of course this did not work?
No, poor George.
George did die, but not for twoweeks.
What he had?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
internal injuries.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, and then later on Carla convinces Rania to let
her dig up the corpse of herpoor hamster, and so carla could
mess around with it likeexperiment on it.
So you're starting this wholeass story and I cannot just
imagine a little hamster likethe flying with a pillowcase.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, oh, it's a circus show.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I love it well, car was also.
Pretty much she was kind of abully.
So Renia says that there was ahandicapped girl in the
neighborhood and one day, whenthe other kids were playing
baseball, this girl was in awheelchair and she had small
arms.
And Carla tells this littlegirl's brother that she is a

(17:23):
creepy looking freak and thenstarts acting like a seal and
making fun of this little girl'sarms oh my goodness.
And then all the other kidsjoin in and do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Not cool.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Fucking kids suck.
Yeah, kids do suck.
Why are they so mean?
For no reason, like poorhandicapped girl, yeah.
So why do not so mean kids goalong with the bullies like why
do you have to co-sign with theevil?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
that's my question.
It kind of keeps them fromgetting bullied also, though
yeah, yeah, I guess you're rightabout that it's like makes you
feel good in a weird way.
It's like you're getting awaylike you're getting attention
from as a kid instead of getting, and I remember doing the same
thing, but on on the inside Ifelt like a horrible person
Absolutely All the time.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So I guess that makes us okay, because we did have
remorse.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, and I didn't participate in so much of that,
but as a kid I also felt like Iwas getting empowered and
joining the cool club making funof other people.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, and also the bullied become bullies.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Bulliers yes, yeah, so you don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Just, parents, teach your kids not to be assholes.
Yeah, period, yeah Well, herfather, carla's father, was a
traveling salesman, but Carladidn't like him very much and in
this case, the absence did notmake the heart grow fonder.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
She actually had a game that she would play called
death of a salesman.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I mean hated that hamster, hated that the hamster
didn't come out well but now itis speculated and reported on
that carl would try to have atry to have affairs while on his
travels but would fail.
But it earned him thereputation of a pervert and I
guess he just he had no game.

(19:09):
But I did find in one sourceout of very many that he did
have an affair and Dorothy evenagreed to have a threesome with
this woman in an attempt to savethe marriage Dirty.
And I guess it worked becausethey stayed married all
throughout all this.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I think the dad was a little twisted too here.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, well, in her teenage years, carla would go
through a goth stage wearingdark clothes, heavy makeup,
dyeing her hair vivid colors,and there's nothing wrong with
that.
And she did have a fascinationwith the occult and would
perform rituals with her Ouijaboard near an old train station,
and again nothing wrong withthat.

(19:46):
But she would carve littlecircles in her skin.
That's what I was going to say.
She was probably a cutter andshe would fill them with nail
polish.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
She would fill the holes with nail polish.
Lindsay's telling this story,and then I look over at my
sister and she's over here goinglike cutting her arm.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yep, I knew it was coming.
She's probably a cutter, and soI don't recommend that
whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's very unhealthy , yeah.
And nail polish is not a goodidea and you know if you do, you
know if you are a person thatyou know does use cutting as a
relief.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
A form of stimulation .
Stimulation, it's not a goodout.
Know it's good out.
It's not a good out, we want to.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, we want to be sympathetic towards that,
because I know that it can be aproblem.
She also told a friend that shewould like to draw dots all
over somebody's body and playconnect the dots with a knife
and then pour vinegar in thewounds.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, see, that's where the problem comes into
play, like if you're doingsomething to yourself and then
you associate that to otherpeople.
It's unhealthy.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Right.
I don't think she had a lot ofparents around her either.
Her dad was gone all the time.
She had been a latchkey kid andher mom was probably working.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well, that was a huge problem in the 80s.
It definitely was 80s like itwas.
You know it's in 90s when we doa lot of these cases in in time
periods before 2010.
You can just tell there was alot of unsupervised shit because
there was with us.
I used to ride my bike for fourmiles away from my house.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, yes, shelly can tell you, we ran amok as kids.
We did what the fuck ever?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
all the time it was nobody knew where we were, we
would eat from neighbor's housedrink from the water hose, ride
our bikes and play me too, and Iwould go shower and time to
take a shower, eat dinner, go tobed and wake up and go to
school and do it all over againwelcome to post, gen x yeah, we
were well shelly's still, gen x,you and I are millennials, yeah
you're gen x so I was born in79.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You are, uh, a baby Gen X.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Basically you are one of the last, okay, but and then
Jessie and I are a month awayfrom being millennial because, I
was born November of 79 yes soI'm riding right there and I
would go to the neighbor's housethat I thought had the best
snacks that I knew.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm like you know what?
They've got Slim Jim's andDebbie Cakes at their house.
I'm going to go over there.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Believe it or not, our house was a safe space,
though, Jesse.
We had a lot of friends comeover to our house.
We had a lot of people comeover.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, and I've heard stories.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Our friends always hung out at our place.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, y'all's mom, always has the fun house.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
As we moved to Florida.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
When we got it, because we were always freaking.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But, before y'all had a hard time the first 10 or 12
years of our lives was differentthan those last.
So Carla's first boyfriend,doug, says that Carla was very
moody, she was obsessed withdeath and would always threaten
suicide when things were goingher way.
It puts a bad rap on people whoactually suffer with suicidal

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thoughts when you're just likeI'm going to kill myself because
you know.
To seek attention To seekattention Right and
unfortunately there are peoplethat actually suffer with those
thoughts and it's not recognized.
because of people like carla,she didn't have no intention of
that.
She probably met him down thereat the train tracks she would

(23:10):
write weird messages in herfriend's yearbooks, like death
kicks and bones rule yeah, soshe was just stuck into whatever
was negative and dark for herwhole emotional being it.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's just not healthy to keep and then to portray
that on other people.
It's just not healthy, Right.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Her boyfriend was into it too.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
No Well, carla says that Doug was as boring as salt
and pepper being your mainseasonings.
But I also saw in some sourcesthat Carla was a girly girl and
thought of nothing but gettingmarried, and her and her friends
had a diamond club talkingabout the diamond rings that
they wanted from their futurefiancés.
Shelly, were you ever like thegirl that pictured the diamond

(23:52):
ring?
Not me, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I never fantasized about my weddings or nothing
like that when I was a kid, Iwas a tomboy.
The perfect man Come on.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
No, I was more manly than most of all my men.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
My engagement ring has an amethyst, and that's what
I wanted.
I picked it out.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I mean, don't get me wrong, we like jewelry.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But I've never been a diamond fan.
It's whatever.
I'd rather have colored stones.
They're way cooler, especiallypurple amethysts.
Dark and girly can go hand inhand.
But, like I said, you literallyfind two different versions of
Carla.
But I think the truth liessomewhere in the middle.
So before graduating highschool, she got a job at number

(24:30):
one pet center.
Don't let her mess with thehamsters.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Parachutes, here we come.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
But she did want to work.
She wanted to work with animalsand her and her coworker,
debbie, were invited to a petindustry convention in Toronto
at the Hojo.
Remember Howard Johnson?
Yeah, in October of 1987.
And she was 17 at this time.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
We used to think the Hojo was the tits.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
If you were staying at the Hojo.
It was the tits.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You were bougie, if you were staying at the Hojo.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
You were a diamond princess if you were bougie.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, if you were staying at the hotel, you were a
diamond princess.
Well, while they were havingdinner at the hotel restaurant,
they were approached by two guyson the prowl for young girls.
One of those guys was PaulBernardo, and for Carla and Paul
it was love.
Well, mostly lust at firstsight.
Well, mostly lust at firstsight.
Paul Bernardo was born onAugust 27th 1962 to Marilyn and

(25:29):
Kenneth Bernardo.
Welcome to the party, paul.
Upon arriving in this world, hehorrified his mother
immediately to the point ofscreaming, because he had a huge
black mark on the side of hisface.
Turns out, this was just alarge blood clot that dissolved
with time.
It took like six weeks.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Hemangioma or something it's called, I think.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
You know, I didn't even look into that that's
probably what it was.
So, kenneth, who was Paul'sfather?
He was a very rigid, buttonedup man and who would, for
example, mow his yard in a suit.
Wow, yeah, that's way too hot.
What the fuck was that I mean,I guess you can in Canada it
probably don't ever get reallyhot up there.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Canada's different.
Was it a Canadian tuxedo?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
If you mow your yard in a suit in Florida, you better
change.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So it's like all You're going to smell like
straight stank BO.
All denim, the whole Canadiantuxedo.
He's out there.
Hey, how's it going, eh, hey,mow your yard today.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
eh, oh, my God Stop it.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I love Canadians for real.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yes, we do.
We do so well, kenneth.
He was a peeping Tom and apedophile and he raped his own
eight-year-old daughter fuck himin front of the family, and he
also abused his wife.
It also came to light after awhile that ken was not paul's

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biological father.
Paul's mother had grown tiredof kenneth's bullshit and had an
affair with a man named billwho had she had actually wanted
to marry.
But for some reason, I guess,her family pressured her into
marrying Kenneth because he mademore money.
So she had this affair withBill and apparently Paul was
conceived on the very day thatKennedy was shot.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Hmm, yes.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
We just talked about that on the last yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, these are yeah they use Kennedy a lot on the
last podcast.
Yeah Well, these are.
Yeah, they used.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Kennedy a lot In the 60s.
Mm-hmm Kennedy was a hugehousehold name.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I want to tell a story about the time that was on
the John F Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
We will Maybe when we cover JFK oh.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, because that'll be.
I got to go on the JFK aircraftcarrier one time and I'll tell
that story later on.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So later on, as kind of a fuck you to Ken, she showed
a picture of Bill to Paul andsaid this is your father.
You're a bastard and you mightas well get used to it.
This woman was not well at all.
She started living in thebasement of the home when Paul
was a teenager.
She would not feed the kids andshe would hide food under her

(28:03):
own bed, because I guess Kennethwas always talking about y'all
are going to eat me out of houseand home, so she would hide the
food.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
She's suffering a little bit.
Yeah, she was very unwell.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, I mean, he ends up becoming a convicted peeping
Tom and pedophile, and he hadraped her own daughter, as moms
we do, you know, keep chocolatein our bedroom.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, thatsounds a little different.
Well, Paul would refer to herand call her, to her face, a
slob and a whore regularly.

(28:34):
So Paul also had a birth defectwhere his tongue was fused to
his palate.
So it's almost like this.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, he had no little.
Yeah, it's called tongue-tied.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
And it made him non-verbal for a long time.
But they had a procedurecorrecting this defect and after
that he never stopped talking.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's why they had to cut that little piece
underneath of there.
Oh, it sucks.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
People pierce that.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah and well, I've met some people that have that
their tongue barely can like.
If they're like, stick out yourtongue, they can't do it, I'll
stick out your tongue.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Let me see, show me that I'm like uh, he even earned
the name Silver Tongue Devil.
In his teenage years he washandsome and had a spellbinding
personality and was the king offirst impressions.
Unfortunately, like Carla, butworse, he had a dark side.

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Following in the footsteps ofKen, paul started peeping and
was even caught, but nothing wasdone about it.
He collected underwear ads ofolder women and young girls, and
he liked BDSM porn and was alsopartial to urination and
defecation porn by now this wasthe 70s 80s well, yeah, no, he

(29:50):
was a teenager in the 80s uh,early 80s and then yeah, so it
gets real rough into the late80s now.
So paul was a greed driven youngman as well and he wanted badly
to be part of the boomingyuppie society in the 80s.
And that makes me think ofpatrick bateman from american
psycho.
Oh, man, there was so much tothat we rewatched we rewatched

(30:13):
that movie all the time, just tounderstand it more we have to.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You have to watch american cycle like four times
just to find out what reallyfucking.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And then I googled it and went into a deep dive and
it was literally about corporategreed in america.
Corporate greed.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's all it was about.
But like how it portrayed allof that in the middle of all
that, that was, that was genius.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
That was a genius ass movie very yeah, it's one of
our favorites so good, runaround naked in a chainsaw with
his tighty whities.
It'll grow With his tinywhiteys Ew gross.
He looked good.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Shut up.
He was ripped dude.
I got a man crush on his ass.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
You got a man crush on Christian Bale.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Actually, you know what he plays a villain very
well.
He's very good at it, he does.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
And that whole bloody with his face and he's all like
Well, I really liked him in thelatest Thor face and he's all
like.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, I really liked him in um the latest thor movie
like this is sue studio.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, he's like fixing to fuck him.
I have to go return somevideotapes.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yes, go ahead, but I did like him in the latest thor
movie you just you.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You can't bring this into that.
This is going to be fuckinghorrific, I know well.
It is going to be like realfucking.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
So I'm, I'm laying the ground, I'm laying the
bricks on the foundation.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, this is um.
This is the gosh twisted yes.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
So paul worked at a couple restaurants.
He did newspaper delivery anddid a few security guard jobs.
Then he started hanging outwith these three boys named
steve, alex and van smmyrnis,smyrnis, smyrnis.
They were neighbors and theywould come up with money-making
schemes all the time, and theSmyrnis brothers were already

(31:52):
petty criminals and their fatherowned a Greek restaurant and
they would use the restaurantfood to trade for stolen gas and
illegal fishing.
That was working Greek yes,greek restaurant, and they were
kind of gross to women food totrade for stolen gas and illegal
fishing.
That was working Greek yes,greek restaurant so and they
were kind of gross to women andPaul looked up to their behavior
but he, like, surpassed their,their level later on.

(32:14):
So, paul, he went to theuniversity of Toronto,
scarborough, and started datinga girl named Jennifer Galligan
in 1986.
And Jennifer was still in highschool, paul was, he was in
college.
With Jennifer he would startshowing his true, sexually
sadistic colors, and he had been.

(32:36):
He'd been keeping that underwraps pretty well for a while,
but he started just letting itout.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I see your true colors.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Oh my God, don't Don't bring Phil Collins into
this, okay?
And then it'll be stuck in ourhead.
Yes, so she said that Paul wouldget sexually aggressive at the
same time every day Around 11 pm, midnight and at 2 am, and when
he drank he was violent.
Jennifer thinks that Paul wasactually sexually involved with

(33:07):
the smyrna's brothers becausethey were always finding excuses
to touch each other.
He would not ask for, butdemand anal sex, and his
thoughts of anal sex were thatthat's how you show dominance
over a woman and that's how youwould make her love you.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh, god, he already was freaking out with the mother
boys.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yes, so you're on top of the mountain.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I don't want to shame anybody that enjoys that?
No, as long as it's consensual,and you know, everything is
reciprocated.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But you don't have to get on top of the mountain.
That way, you know, you don'thave to feel like you're just
dominating.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Make sure all parties involved are enjoying it, and
it's nothing to fucking.
She apparently wouldn't enjoyit.
No, it's nothing to be likeyou're overcoming anything.
It's just a personal preferenceand you're just doing that for
both certifications.
There's no dominance.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
There's no no dominance, it's just, that's
what's satisfying him.
Yeah, right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes yeah, because he liked uh, he liked inflicting,
and he would also do things likeusing wine bottles to see how
far he could go.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
There's a mindset there where you're just not
healthy?
Yeah, it's not healthy.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Jennifer would also say that on her graduation he
strangled her.
I mean she survived, becauseshe's telling the story.
He strangled her and thenanallyled her.
I mean she survived becauseshe's telling the story.
He strangled her and thenanally raped her and he would
take nude photos of her andwould threaten to post them on
her church bulletin board if sheever left him In the name of.
Jesus, in the name of Jesus.

(34:38):
So it's just like Because youcouldn't threaten the exposure
on the internet back then.
So I guess church bulletin isthe next Biggest, biggest.
Yeah, that was that was it.
That was how you would shamesomebody if you posted it on a
bullet, because bulletin boardswere everywhere.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Much younger than him too.
Yeah, she was so intimidatedand already scared yes, but at
that I mean it's just.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I can't even say that I would leave, because you
don't know how in her young mindshe was thinking that if that
was her first, she might thinkthat that's how all men are and
she just had to please him no, Idon't plow the cornfield, I
don't.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I don't play in the back than the back door I just
no wine bottle using for you nogod I would you know I would
never feel like I'm trying todominate my woman.
No as far.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
But we're gonna have our fun, we're gonna do our
thing, but there's nothing likethat, and I'm, I'm not trying to
dominate my woman, no as far.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
But we're gonna have our fun, we're gonna do our
thing, but there's nothing likethat, and I'm I'm not trying to
talk to you like this around mysister over here well, and I
want to say that this is how.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
This is how assholes get away with shit like this,
because they will threaten toshame a female, so they'll keep
quiet you don't tie that intoanything.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
as far as being empowering, he didn't love her,
he just used her.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Exactly that's where I'm going, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Well, right before graduating college, Paul got a
very well-paying job as anaccountant at Price Waterhouse
Accounting Firm, and one night,while he and Van Smyrnis were
out hunting for girls, they sawCarla Homaka and her friend
Debbie at the hojo.
They had heard this place wasgreat for finding girls, so they

(36:10):
were on the prowl.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Again, the hojo was the business, it was the
business.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's the hookup and I want to make it.
He was 23 and Carla was 17.
Another young one for him tomanipulate and for them, like I
said before, it was love, butbasically lust at first sight.
Within the hour they were backin the girls' hotel room with
Debbie and Van sitting rightthere.

(36:36):
They had sex for four hours.
Wow, Four hours.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I mean not at 43.
Wow, four hours.
I mean not at 43.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I mean first of all ew you just met and ew that
these two just sat there.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, they could have got up and left the room.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But it is said that Van Smyrna's actually liked
getting Paul's sloppy seconds.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
But Paul wasn't sharing this one.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
There were probably some alcohol involved.
Oh, I mean, I don't know aboutthe girls, but Paul and Van were
probably already fucked up whenthey got there, they probably
brung alcohol to the room forthem to help loosen them up,
because they were 23.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's disgusting as fuck to sit there and let all
that happen.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
This was a regular occurrence for these boys, for
Paul and the Smirnes brothers.
The Smirnes brothers wereSmirnes there had to have been
some white girl in that dealthere.
That's what I wanted to know.
More than likely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, there was some cocaine, Cocaine happening.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Well, after that uncomfortable situation, Paul
and Carla hit it off right away.
He swept her off her feet, helove-bombed the shit out of her
and Carla liked that.
He was exciting.
So Carla, she lived in the StCatharines area, where Paul
lived in the Scarborough area,and this is still all in Toronto
.
It's very confusing.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Toronto's huge though .

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, it's Toronto, ontario, and then they live in
these provinces of that area andit's about two hours apart from
each other St Catherine's andum Scarborough.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Beautiful country, though I love it.
God is so beautiful up there.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Well, paul would make the.
It was about, like I said, anhour hour and a half to two hour
drive every weekend and hewould stay with the Homolka
family.
Carla's parents loved him andwould call him their weekend son
, and her sisters loved him aswell.
On paper, paul was perfect.
He was handsome, preppy and hada very well-paying job.

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Paul at first would sleep onthe couch, of course, because
you know she's 17, he's 23.
But of course he would sneakinto Carla's room to do the
nasty.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Heck, yeah, he done.
Tore it up for four hours inthe hojo On the first night.
Within the hour he's definitelysneaking into the room.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I think it was actually.
I mean what I heard in severalsources.
It was like within 30 minutes.
Yeah, what 30 minutes?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
There was definitely alcohol or some white girl
involved there.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Regular sex.
It wasn't good enough for Pauland he started to talk about his
other fantasies, and hisfantasy at this time was to peep
on Carla's little sister, tammy, who was 13 or 14 at the time.
Come on, dude, and Carla wasokay with it.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Come on, dude.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Only because she liked him, and she even broke
Tammy's shade for easier accessfor Paul.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
So that he could look better through the shade.
Oh, freaking nasty.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So while he's seeing Carla and peeping on Tammy, he's
actually still dating Jenniferand in True Cheater's MO he
started accusing Jennifer ofcheating.
She ignored this and still gavehim a really cool sweater for
his graduation and for this.
For some reason, this gift madehim very angry and he started

(39:46):
doing like do she ask donuts inthe parking lot?
Like who gets mad at a sweater?
No, if you want to destroy mysweater.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't have anything for it, but we got to see
Weezer.
But we got to see Weezer.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
We did get to see Weezer and it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
As I walk away.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
As I walk away Speaking of Weezer, real quick
sidetrack.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think it was his bassist.
She got shot.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
No, it was his wife.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, it was his bassist wife yeah, got shot.
New stuff and is now in jailfor the attempted murder of a
police officer.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That shit just went down.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Didn't know that, because the police were on a
manhunt and I guess they cameinto her yard and she shot at
them.
So they shot at her and theyactually shot her.
Yeah, and I guess she shot oneof the police officers as well.
But why'd they come into heryard?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
They were on a manhunt for another assailant.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
For.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Another whole different.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Uh, yeah, she's lying on the floor and she oh my god,
stop it lying on the flooranyway so jennifer was like dude
, you're insane, it's over, takeme home.
Good job, jennifer.
Anyway.
Yes.
So paul does agree to take herhome, but at every single red
light on the way to her house hewould grab her hair and hit her
.
And then after a while, beforegetting home, he pulls over into

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a secluded area, pulls out aknife and he was going to stab
her, but he dropped the knife inbetween the seats on accident
and she takes the fuck off.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
What a fucker man.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
And she never sees him again.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Later she does report this and also says that Paul
owed her $2,000 and his checksto her had bounced, and this
gets noted but does not getinvestigated for some time and I
think the document had actuallybeen dated for the wrong year.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Good thing he dropped the knife between the seats.
We get mad when we drop stuff,but that was a blessing.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yes, let me go ahead and pop the top on this one.
I'm on pineapple this today.
All right, so now Carla hasPaul's full attention, and even
though Paul was not happy thatshe was used goods because she
had already lost her virginityto somebody else Really he liked
virgins and Well, yeah, he'speeping at the 12 year old and

(42:06):
he wants to sodomize.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
He wants to bugger.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, he wants to bugger and he wants a virgin.
Yeah, but and so Carla?
She'll do literally anything toplease him and to keep her.
Man, paul and Carla's sex lifegoes into full blown like per
man.
Paul and Carla's sex life goesinto full-blown BDSM status.
Then Paul asks Carla straightup how she would feel if he was
a rapist.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So he's just wanting to turn all this up to full-on,
just, and he wants somebody tohave a little interest, and she
was cool with it.
Oh.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Of course she was.
She was already letting himlook at her little sister.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
So she's infatuated again, just like the last one we
were talking about, and it canbe so manipulative when a woman
is just so infatuated with a manand you can change her into
doing whatever the fuck you want.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
He's a narcissistic person too.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well unbeknownst to her, paul had already been a
rapist.
Oh, he had Well.
First I want to say this Mostof his rapes and attempted rapes
would go unreported because hewould threaten the women or
girls that he assaulted andstatistically, 66 percent of
rapes go unreported if theperson is a stranger.

(43:14):
So he always made sure it waspeople he didn't know,
especially in the 80s.
So trigger warning.
I'm about to list.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's all trigger warning to begin with, I've been
one saying that he was alreadya rapist before but nobody
really reported it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
This is fixing to be a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I've been puddled over here in this corner because
, like I'm trying to be, I'mtrying to play it cool because
my sister's with me, but at thesame time, I'm really being
puddled right now.
This is a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
This dude is horrible and it's like when you sober up
from the drinks later on,you're like ugh.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
She's not innocent either, though.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
No, she's already got a past and we're going to cover
more of that on part two, butyou'll see here in a minute.
Okay, so I'm going to list thereported rapes in order.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
She's fixing to allow this man to do the most, and
you're fixing to drop it rightnow.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Drop it All the shit on me, All right let me fly.
Well, I'm trying to play coolbecause my sister's here.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I know Y'all hold hands.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
No, I'm not holding hands.
She's over here like.
I don't know anything about thestory either, and I really
don't.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I thought I would know by now, but I do not.
On may 4th again.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
may the 4th uh 1987, he followed a 21 year old to her
home and attacked her in frontof her fucking house.
On May 14th 1987, he raped a19-year-old in her parents'
backyard On July 27th.
This was an attempt, but failwhen the girl fought back 1987

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again Still 1987.
Yeah, I'll let you know when weget to further years.
December 16th.
That's my birthday 1987, heraped a 15 year old.
After this there was a boloissued and a warning to young
women To not be out alone, andhe now had a name.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
So that's what they know he's done.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
These are just reported.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
That whole area.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
He's just fucking Up some shit after this one he got
the name the scarborough rapiststalker.
These crimes were mostlycommitted, uh, around the local
bus station where he would pullthe victim in between two houses
to commit the crime.
So on december 23rd, same 87,he raped a 17-year-old.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
So from the 16th to the 23rd he was I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh, he hardly has any cooling off period for a while.
On April 18th 1988, he attackedanother 17-year-old On May 25th
88, he was almost caughtbecause they were now staking
out the bus station but Paul gotaway.
But he was almost caughtbecause they were now staking
out the bus station but Paul gotaway, but he was not done.
He then went on 25 miles to theClarkson area and on May 30th

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1988, he attacked a 18-year-oldfrom that area On October 4th.
he had another failed attempt.
This girl fought back, but hestabbed her in the thigh and the
buttocks.
It just starts escalating nowokay, he's getting more violent
with it.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
You gotta stop man.
There's more yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
On November 16th 1988 , he attacked another
18-year-old in her parents'backyard.
So now, after this, there is atask force formed into finding
this fucker, and Paul's notwearing anything to cover his
face because he is attackingthem from behind and wielding a
knife.

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He would make these girls tellthem that they loved him, just
fucking degrade them to thelowest.
He would actually say you know,tell me Merry Christmas what?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I was going to say happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Tell me happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
He would make them say that he was better than
their boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Just yeah, complete While he's raping them.
Tell me I'm better.
Tell me my dick's bigger.
Tell me all the things Exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So on December 27th he had another failed attempt
and a neighbor saw him andchased him off.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
He fed off of all of it.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Oh yeah, because he doesn't slow down.
On June 20th 1989.
So now we're in 89.
He failed again and this victimfought back and screamed,
alerting neighbors and a mananother man I forgot to write
his name down.
He was actually identified forthis and spent 16 months in

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prison for something that Pauldid.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Oh, so he was a bystander neighbor trying to
help.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Or I think he may have been involved in the girl's
life that Paul attacked youwere right, though, because this
is the most horrible thing thatI've heard so far.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I wonder if he was a pedo too.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I mean 16 years.
He did 16 months.
You'll find out later why, butI think it was so she false
identified him yes.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Or either he was involved in her life already and
that was the only person thatthey could think of.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
That would possibly do something like that.
You're dumping such a pile ofshit and he's still going.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Oh yeah, I'm not done .
Oh God.
August 15th 1989, he stalks a22-year-old.
He waits for her outside of herhouse and attacked her when she
got home.
On November 21st 89, heattacked a 15-year-old and now
he's at the bus station again.
I don't know if it was theScarborough bus station or in

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the Clarkson, but yeah, we're ata bus station again.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He's rerouted his MO there.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
On December 22nd he attacked a 19-year-old on the
stairwell of an undergroundparking lot and then the next
day he proposed to Carla.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
What the fuck.
Meanwhile he's going home atnight to Carla and still having
sex with her and relations withher.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And she's not suspecting nothing.
They're not coexisting yet.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Okay so he's still the weekend guy.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, he's still the weekend, boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
What a disgusting son of a bitch.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
So Carla's definitely not enough for him.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
So on May 26th he attacked this is 89, he attacked
a 19-year-old, but he got cockyand he let her see all of him
and she remembered everythingabout him.
And now police had a compositesketch yeah, fuck you.
And this sketch looked exactlylike Paul Bernardo.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, we got you To the T, we got you back freckle.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I don't know if we got it yet.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
They don't, and now there's $150,000 reward for any
information, so this gets peopletalking that are like holy shit
.
That's Paul Bernardo.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
We know him because he was well known.
Well, he just had the wholefucking community tied into this
shit.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So a bank teller who knew Paul, who dealt with him
often, she called in.
And also the wife of one of theSmyrna's brothers, she called
in.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And Tina even told police that Paul was very open
about his desires for rough sexand anal sex.
For some reason, her sayingthat made her story unbelievable
.
I'm so disgusted, because howdare a woman speak of that?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
nature.
I'm disgusted in this humanbeing.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yeah, a woman couldn't stand up for herself.
And oh, he wants all this andwants all that.
And then them look at her likewell, you're allowing it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
So all paul's attacks were very violent and would
last anywhere from 30 minutes totwo hours.
He would carve on them with hisknife, raped by sr oh
scarborough rapist.
He would do that on some of thevictims, he would stomp on them
.
He broke one victim'scollarbone and each attack was

(50:59):
more brutal than the last.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
He just pulled them down for a while there and
escalating.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
You know.
I just want to raise a glass,though, to our famous football
player out of Lake City, florida.
His last name was Scarborough.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Was he?
Let's bring him into this.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Poor fella.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, there's the church that my family went to
when we lived in Lakeland.
The preacher's last name wasScarborough, and that's who I
thought of the whole time.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
So yeah, bo Scarborough Lake City's famous.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
There's your info.
If you want to read it.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Scarborough has been a name.
The last name has just beenhitting me so hard over here and
that's a thing in Lake City too, that last name.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, alabama Crimson Tide.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Seattle Seahawks Dallas.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Cow big city too, like that last name.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
So yeah, alabama crimson tide.
Yeah, he did great, I meandetroit lions and las vegas
raiders yeah, out of columbiahigh, but that's just been
hitting me so hard.
The last name, it's just been Ihad to bring it around I had to
break away because lindsey hasjust dropped so much shit on me
right now yeah, and I don't knowhow to Take a deep breath.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I am deep breathing the whole time We'll bring and
comprehend how a dude would doall this crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
No, well, because you don't think like that.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
No.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Thank God, thank God, thank God.
So during this like three yearspan of crimes, paul left his
accounting job and him and theSmiryrna brothers sold marked up
worms to fishermen so theywould buy them wholesale right,
that's the cheaper price, markthem up and then sell them.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Retail it's convenience.
Nobody gives a shit.
As long as you can get a bucketof worms and fish, they don't
give a fuck what the price.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, they also joined one of the most famous
multi-level marketing companiesever.
Amway, amway.
Did y'all know anybody from?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
amway the the pyramid triangle fucking my parents
were in amway yeah, it was justit was such a scam.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
We don't know nothing .
Amway was such a scam.
I know about.
It was mostly ran in religiouscircles too, especially through
like with.
Uh, if you went to like, ohfuck yeah, amway is going to use
jesus oh yeah, they useeverywhere.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Apparently I was well , you know what's fucked up well
you remember how okay, so youloved Amway is going to use
Jesus.
Oh yeah, they use Jesuseverywhere.
Apparently, I was not there.
Well, you know what's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Well, you remember how okay, so you loved our music
teacher in elementary school.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I did.
Okay, you did too, mr Royster.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
We probably don't need to drop his name, but we
did.
Well, they don't know his firstname.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
But so I told you that he treated me very badly,
right?
Yeah, well, he was, he was in,he was in amway, and so were my
parents, and when my parents gotout of amway, I got shunned.
What is amway?
So it's a multi-level marketingcompany and they sold
everything.
They sold household products,snacks you know and I don't like
we had.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Uh, I mean, I've been around you know and they sold
in bulk like sam's club Iremember when ollie's dad was
into that like really big tooone of my best friends that were
oh yeah, we had amway dish soap.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
We had amway snacks.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
We had amway chewing gum it was a big thing back then
and and lindsey got shunnedbecause of that shit for real.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
It was like he treated me really bad me because
I, because your parents were inthe church with him, you as a
child.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yes, as a child.
Why take it out on a kid?
Because your parents aren'tjoining your fucking pyramid
scheme?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
His first name I do know.
Oh yeah, See, they soldeverything.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
They're still going obviously.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
There's the logo.
Maybe I do know that logo.
Yeah, you do.
They have face products,everything.
Oh, there's the logo.
Yeah, so maybe I do know thatlogo yeah, yeah, you do.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
They have face products, everything Skin care,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
It was a big thing in the 80s and 90s.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Everything that you can think of you want.
They had it.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Fucking pyramid scheme 80s and 90s.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
We didn't buy name brand chips, we had Amway chips
yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Okay, a pyramid scheme it really was.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
And it was a lot.
Like I said, it was a lot in,it was big in the religious
community and if you didn't haveanybody underneath of you
supporting you.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
you weren't being on top of the pyramid, so fuck you.
That's what they believed.
That was what they were trainedto do.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
During the Amway time he got obsessed with the
motivational speaker TonyRobbins Y'all probably know that
guy and he wanted to become amotivational speaker himself.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
This rapist Of course , silver tongue, oh silver
tongue.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
He needs to be fucking castrated by now.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Then he would go on to make a living smuggling
cigarettes across the border tothe US, and he also wanted to
get into evangelicalChristianity.
Here we go.
Because there was so much moneyhe kept the cigarette thing
going.
He was working all angles.
He could have just stayed athis accountant job because he

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made six figures there at 23years old.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
It wasn't enough for the thrill.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
He had that white girl involved.
I guarantee it.
We need to find out if this guywas fucking hopped up on some
cocaine, I swear it.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
No sources told me that.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
No sources told you this.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So we can just imagine that it probably was the
thing, or if not, he was justevil, like naturally, naturally.
So Paul also got into the rapgame a little bit after he
became obsessed with our boy RobVan Winkle.
Rob Van Winkle.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Katie, uncle Fanny.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Vanilla Ice, vanilla Ice.
Remember when Vanilla Ice triedto do New Metal.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh yeah, that was very brief.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
That was with Ross Robinson I know the fucking
producer of Korn and it flopped,it flopped so fucking hard or
something.
Now, yeah, you see, rob you see, rob is playing it though, but
yeah, damn, I'd actually okay.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
So where he was called uncle vanny in that
fucking movie, okay.
So I love adam saylor, we arehuge adam saylor fans, but
that's my boy was the mostfucked up movie I think Adam
Sandler's ever done.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Shelby has probably watched it 900 times.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
The incest, bro, the incest.
But Uncle Vanny, and then thenew kids on the block tattoo
where their heads stretched outas he grew oh my God, because
they put it on him when he waslike nine.
Poor thing it did, it did.
But I have to.
We, me and Jesse, like chokedon our popcorn laughing.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
We wouldn't saw that in the theaters.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
You're a brand, brand alpha bloke yeah so he, he uh
went by, he dyed his hair and hewent by the name Young Hype and
he made an album called DeadlyInnocence fuck you, young Hype.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yes, fuck you and Deadly Innocence.
Fuck you, young hype.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yes, fuck you.
And according to many sourcesand I heard some of the lyrics
myself it's awful.
I found a little bit of thelyrics you did, so you want to
read just a little bit?
It's like a paragraph.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Some of him is spitting.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Just so we can clown on that, let me see if I can do
it like a rapper Like and do itlike a rapper Like heh man, you
think I'm innocent, but behindthis I'm packing a lot of
deadliness.
So come at me, man, take yourbest shot.
See what happens to you, pal,you're out of here.
Man, you come at me with yourbeer, your beer, pot belly.

(57:55):
You think you're really toughand tough Pot belly.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I think he had a little bit of animosity toward
guys.
Maybe too I'm garbage right now.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
He hated everybody.
Hang on, let me get the beatgoing.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Hang on, wait ready, You're on, pop now man.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I come back with my beat boy hat looking like I'm 13
years old and I'll kick yourass and fucking blow your
fucking head off.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I'll kill your ass and fucking blow your fucking
head off.
I'll kill your fucking parents.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'll come after fucking, shoot your girlfriend
and fucking your sister.
Man, I'll fuck your sister.
I'll fuck your girlfriend.
I'll shoot the rest of you.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Lindsay no, See this.
Wait a minute.
What?
What just happened?
I'm the solo creep Sleep.
I was over here grooving boo,but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Hey, wait a minute, isn't it awful?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
it's fucking terrible , that's fucking horrible he
didn't make it yeah, let's doanother one no no okay we're
done, we're done, you're doneall right.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
So paul and carla are now engaged and planning an
elaborate 80s wedding, and Paulis also now residing with the
Homolkas.
So it's what?
89, now we're in 1990.
Good job, I was just about tosay that.
So Paul moved to St Catharinesand guess what stopped the

(59:15):
Scarborough Rapist.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Oh yeah, Because he moved.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
He couldn't do his dirt God, but I mean that's a
good thing.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Oh no, he's fixing to still keep doing that.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Oh yeah, strap in.
Y'all Buckle your seatbelts.
It's about to get worse.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Well, I'm going to let you fly, because I'm going
to take a drink out of mytravelers.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Let me take one too, because, fuck, I got to read
this.
You're going to quit drinkingthat and go to them.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Little fruity, them Trillies, oh, the Vista Bays,
but traveling.
I'm going to let Lindsay goahead because I'm going to
travel.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So Paul is obsessed with Tammy, Carla's younger
sister, and Carla has beenallowing him to peep on Tammy,
slowly trying to get her toallow him to take Tammy's
virginity.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Wait, who's Tammy Tammy is?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Carla's 15-year-old sister yeah he's been wanting to
fuck with her and she wasletting it be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Since she's 12.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
So, Paul wanted an open relationship, like Ian and
Myra.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Oh, all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
But Carla wasn't about it, but she was okay with
a threesome, but the thirdperson would be her 15-year-old
sister.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Little did Carla know .
So why do you have my sisterhere All the?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
time you have my sister here talking about
sisterage.
I'm so sorry.
And this is garbage-asssisterage.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Carla's little sister probably had a crush on him
secretly too, she did.
Yes, I got a feeling, but he'salways been nice to her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yes, he was nice to her, he groomed her.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
He was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Uncle Paul.
Her shorts were always supercute, so on video.
So Paul had got A camcorder.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
You can't come at me like that, Shelly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Girls.
No, I'm just saying like rightnow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We've experienced things with older women that
have done that.
Y'all are double-teaming meright now.
Are you double-teaming?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
me.
But you're not gross, you'renot a pervert, I'm just saying
like, this is garbage and that'swhy you don't grasp this
concept.
Yes, no, I have, because if youwere about this right now, we'd

(01:01:30):
be getting divorced.
Be like get out, yes, tellingme how cute I look when I'm 12,
14 and I'm like little, did Iknow?
Well, I mean, I have regularswho's uh, you know, couples
whose husbands will attempt toflirt with me and phone to their
wives and then I definitely hadseveral.
I divert the attention to thewife.
I'll look at them and be likeso how are you doing, how you
know?

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I will take it right off me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I haven't experienced that, but thank God, cause I
don't know, I'm glad my wifediverts.
That's garbage.
No, I put all the attention onthe female.
Tell her she's beautiful,whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Oh my God, y'all corner me, though I swear it, I
know it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So Paul's got, he's got a camcorder and he's
videoing everything, okay, andthey start making sex tapes
where Carla is role-playing asTammy during sex.
By the way, carla alsonicknames his member Snuffles
and calls him King.
Oh, snuffleupagus.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Don't you ever do that to Snuffleupagus.
Don't you ever do that toSnuffleupagus, don't you ever?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
do that.
Well, you have to know thatit's the 80s.
That's where that came from.
Definitely he was an elephant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
He was a woolly mammoth though right.
Wasn't that what Snuffleupaguswas I?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
always loved his eyelashes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
They were so cute.
What do you think about thatreal quick?
What do you think about thatreal quick?
Like they're bringing back direwolves and then a woolly
mammoth is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Well, I told you my love of Game of Thrones.
I want one dire wolf and I wantone dragon.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It don't belong.
It's not 100% dire wolf.
I watched a whole documentary.
They're like using a graywolf's DNA with it 75%, but
there's only, I think, two orthree that they actually did but
a dire wolf is they're gonnahave to make war for them to
even breed them together.
So it's gonna take them a while, but, um, it seems like some.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I want one named amira, I'm gonna go ahead and
say some hitler where he triedto, you know, do a bunch of
crazy stuff and well, he tried,but he didn't really try.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
He wasn't successful.
But he was like so they'redoing it and they are successful
oh, it's garbage, and don't letus know what you think about
that how many movies are outthere that says this is not a
good idea.
Yeah, we're like we can thinkof five movies right now Go off
though, yeah, right now.
That does not support any ofthis bullshit.
Don't bring back a dire wolf,what are they like?

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
eight feet tall, that's got to be the biggest
predator to ever exist and theybring it back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
And then now a woolly mammoth which is twice the size
of any elephant you've everseen in your life, with
Chewbacca mixed with it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Come on, chewbacca, yeah but at least the elephants
are not invasive and they're nottrying to take over population.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
No, they're supposed to keep it in captivity or
whatever, but it does not needto happen.
What the fuck does not need tohappen as far as what the fuck
does it change to?

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
do that.
The monkeys got loose in NorthCarolina during the hurricane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Well, what I saw was, you know, we're out here
recreating direwolves, but wehaven't cured cancer yet, so
that's where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
But it's 20 years for direwolves to get out of a cage
too, and then there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, here we go.
Direwolves are going to comeand fuck our children up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
They're coming to kill every kid you've ever had I
swear to God.
They're not going to do that.
Eat them for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
They're going to eat every child you've ever had.
The dire wolves are coming.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
We already have so many gnarly things in Florida as
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
We definitely don't need this yeah.
So innocently, tammy.
She was growing closer andcloser to Paul, like you said,
Tammy, she was growing closerand closer to Paul, like you
said, and he, though, he wasknowingly grooming her and
acting like he was cool UnclePaul.
So Paul was actually videoingTammy, undressed now that Carla

(01:04:51):
had broken her shade.
For easier access, they wouldhave sex in Tammy's bed and they
even drugged her with sleepingpills and her spaghetti and Paul
ejaculated onto a pillow thatshe fell asleep on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Her sister sat there and watched.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Oh, carla was recording this girl.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
She was participating full on, not snuffy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
And all this happened within the summer and the fall
of 1990.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
several times this has slowed him down on his
access or his ability to go out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah, fuck you.
You're fucking way harder thanme.
Shelly, you're supposed to bepuddled, like me I am not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
I've been watching I was about to say she knows, yes.
So tammy started getting alittle suspicious and she would
dump out drinks that carla andpaul would make for her and her
friends, because there wasalways little white flakes
floating on the top.
Well, carla was the oneproviding the drugs because she
worked for a veterinarian at theMartindale Animal Clinic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Where's their mom and dad?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
meanwhile, that's what I'm Okay, so you'll really
see what.
Where's mom and dad yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
It's the latchkey kid thing again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, Carla's the oldest daughter and she's the
latchkey kid thing again.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Carla's the oldest daughter, and she's the one
supposed to be watching herlittle sisters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Well, carl, he was the traveling salesman, and
their mother, dorothy, was aregistered nurse, so she was
probably on call all the time,working 12, 15 hour shifts.
So she had access to all kindsof shit and these drugs were
untraceable shit and these drugswere untraceable.

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They even started experimentingwith using halcyon on tammy,
which is a type of tranquilizeror sedative, and right before
christmas 1990, carla said thatshe was going to give tammy's
virginity to paul as a christmaspresent what the?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
fuck.
She had access to these drugs,probably because her mom was a
nurse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
But wait a minute.
Well, she worked at the vetclinic.
She's using animal sedatives,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I'm putting a pin in this.
Wait a minute, y'all are bothjust like analyzing this shit,
but what the fuck, lindsay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Now Shelly's over here.
I'm not laughing at thesituation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I'm laughing at Jesse's reaction.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
You're over here doing this.
Yeah, we're so nonchalant.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And I'm in the middle .

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
We're expecting all this.
I am.
I've never heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
She doesn't know this story, but she's probably
predicting it, because we'veheard this same song in advance.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
But, y'all are rolling this shit like hardcore,
like it ain't no big deal, likefucking.
Oh it's a huge-aided involved.
Why aren't y'all over here,completely fucking fucked up
right now.
Oh, I've cried like three timesover this case this week Y'all
are just flowing like, oh, it'sbecause of this, it's because of

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that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
She said she's going to give her sister to him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
They planned it out.
You're a fucking hard-ass,Shelly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Here's my baby sister .
Oh, my baby sister's virginityfor Merry Christmas and I'm
supposed to be like not overhere trying to point this out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
He's grooming her at the same time.
He's getting her worked up tothis.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
All of this is just fuckery dude Inside his head.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
He's already done this a thousand times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
And she's just completely fine with it, and I'm
just going to let you bang theshit out of my sister for her,
because he's wealthy, he's got agood job, all the family likes
him he looks jesus's birthday.
You're gonna marry this guy andyou can bang my sister doors,
fuck, and y'all are just likejust analyzing it and not being
where I'm at right now I mean I,I get y'all are way beyond this

(01:08:19):
.
She's patting my sister's,patting my back right now.
Fuck you, shelly dude.
This is so Shitty, this is so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I'm so glad you're.
We're almost done, but it'sgonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Gnarly, we're almost done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
No, I mean I need something to Hold, but I mean I
don't want to hold nothing, Ijust want to die Right now.
This is the garbage, just andnow she's all fucking full
silver tongue freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, I mean, I've built you up to what a monster
he is.
That that is no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
But like shelly, this is her first time diving into
this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
She's probably like me and have watched true crime
for the last 20 years.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Women are hard.
Yeah, women are hard.
Yeah, we are.
Y'all have.
You can't throw shade your waywithout you being hard at it.
You know you're so callousedand I'm not that calloused.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
This is the most horrible thing, and it's not
that you're sheltered, by nomeans.
You do know that there's uglyin this world.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
But you just don't think, obviously, thank,
goodness like some of thesecrazy ass people out there.
No, but this is a perspectiveinto what innocent women go
through, because I mean carla'sdefinitely not yeah, but I feel
like, I feel like her littlesister is from

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
from from baby girl.
Okay, lindsey's on the rightand shelly's on the left, from
fucking right to left over here.
Y'all have both heard andexperienced shit like this in
your life, really.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Not experienced so much, but we have definitely
heard of it and been around it,been around it and witnessed
some things that have beenthrown our way or said our way
to, where we've obviously putour guard up but at the same
time in the back of our headgoing damn but women in general.
Thank goodness I didn't fallthrough with that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
There is just so much of that shit that's really came
upon you guys where you're justcompletely calloused.
You understand what tactics anddiversions and things that men
put you into.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
You never know when, even just pumping gas on a
regular Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
What a random dude or the guy attention will say to
you no, I pay attention to mysurroundings and I have shit in
my hand at all times ready to go?

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Well, I mean as far as, and only every now, and then
do you think, damn, that wassurprising.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Normally it's like I freaking jerk, he done said some
slick shit.
We become numb to it and itbecomes our norm because we are
women.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
My perspective.
Like I'm saying, as far it'sjust me and Lindsay over here.
We're talking back and forthnow and then I'm adding a third
wheel in over here and all ofyou guys are just completely
callous to what the fuck is.
Just natural, ass, human beingshitty ass people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
The cases that I'm talking about and the ones that
I've saved are the ones thathave stuck out and fucking
haunted me.
So, this one, but I've done somuch research on it now I'm like
, okay, so they planned it out.
Paul got a new camcorder, carlagot the Halcyon and then added

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in another drug, which is aninhalant called halothane, and
this keeps a person under duringanesthesia, keeps pain away and
keeps a person unconscious.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Is it Mr Halothane?
Mr Halothane, under duringanesthesia, keeps pain away and
keeps a person unconscious, isit Mr Halifane?

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Mr Halifane, no, stop it, okay, okay, no more jokes,
because it's about to get rough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Let me roll through this.
I'm trying to lighten this up,but I'm really no.
Let me get through this one,okay, god.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
On Christmas Day, everyone was drinking and having
a jolly good time.
Paul and Carla put Halcy.
Everyone was drinking andhaving a jolly good time.
Paul and carla put housey on intammy's drinks.
Paul has the camera going allday.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
He actually covers ice, ice baby for the entire fam
in its entirety you're notfucking rob van winkle, dude,
you're not and, and I watchedvideo footage of this and it's
so uncomfortable was getting astrawberry shortcake for
Christmas and didn't know shewas getting some halcyon in her
drink.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
So on the video they imitated Wayne and Garth from
Wayne's World like the close upthing.
Like they did that wholeroutine.
Yeah, whoa, whoa and Tammy.
She starts feeling ill andactually makes an announcement
to the whole family saying, hey,these guys are trying to poison
me.
But it went unnoticed and I sawthe video.

(01:12:26):
I saw the fucking video and sheis very, very intoxicated, but
it's not just by alcohol.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
She hadn't had a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
This is fucking garbage and we're fired up right
now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
That girl was 12.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
She had had some rum and eggnog and she knew she'd
been drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
She.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
She was 12?
.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
No, no, no, she was 15.
She was 12 when he firststarted getting upset.
At this point, she's 15.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
But either way all three of us are fired up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
She's probably questioned herself before,
because he drugged her oncealready.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Right yeah, they've literally built up her tolerance
throughout the whole summer, sothey had to give her a large
dose.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
And she thought she was safe at christmas with all
the family there and all thethings I'll drink, and she still
trust him even though she'ssuspicious, she still I wouldn't
fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
No, I'm not drinking nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
You make me fucking 14, 15, 15 right now, and who
would have a sister that wouldhave another sister to let a
dude do this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
But but let's just remember that Carla is also a
little bit twisted and she wascutting herself and doing the
fingernail polish in her cutsand she's a little wild.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
And she's allowing this to happen.
She knows that Paul is a rapist.
She knows that he is obsessedwith her sister, but the fucking
parents never got involved inany of this bullshit okay, so
let me finish, because you'regonna be like excuse me where
are you, mr and mrs hamaca?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
are you hamacas?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
so then, paul carla, mickey, mickey, maccas this
shit's happening on fuckingChristmas dude.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Yeah, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
So Paul, Carla and Tammy sit down to watch a movie
and I think it was like aknockoff of the Exorcist and
Tammy, she passes out, and theylaid her down by the Christmas
tree.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
I would have known if my kid was either tipsy or a
little drugged, especially ifshe yelled out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
The pants must have been whacked the fuck out,
because Jesse and I drink onholidays, on special occasions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
We still know what our kids are doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
We still know what the kids are doing Mine's in
there watching Texas ChainsawMassacre while we're recording,
or they're playing Cardboardwith us outside.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
They know what.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Or listening to music or playing a video game.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Bugging the shit out of us and by the way check out
Silas on our.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
YouTube.
He had a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
He loves some Leatherface and we just did a
horror con, so check it out onYouTube for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
He is from the land of awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yeah, so he's watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre
.
I just walked in there a minuteago, but we know what our kids
are doing, at all times Even.
But we know what our kids aredoing At all times, even though
you know he's 11.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
And it's not that we're sheltering our kids.
We're not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
We're letting him do.
But I mean Texas.
I mean it's okay, pg-13-ishright.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
No, texas Chainsaw Massacre is rated R.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Oh well, to me Well it was 80 standards.
Rated R it was definitely 80standards, rated R standards for
a guard, but my kid is in therewatching a fucking movie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
But still the point is, I feel, like as a parent and
that's not giving us clout,because I feel like I would have
known something was up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
But I ain't letting my kid fuck around with another
little fucking dude at 15.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
That's how much they have.
But also, like I said, theseare parents that one works out
of town all the time.
One is a nurse and they have atumultuous relationship.
So remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
So it's a bunch of fucking garbages in the house at
the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Who knows what they were doing too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
They were dabbling a little bit, well I mean I salute
both us three over here, all ofus, both us three, all of us
three over here, at leastknowing what the fuck our kids
are doing into.
You know we're not getting intothat bullshit, you know all
right, let me get through this,because it's hard okay god.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So they put some halothane on a cloth and put it
directly over, directly overtammy's face to keep her from
waking up.
Carla and paul both gotundressed, and while carla held
the camera, paul began to rapetammy.
So at this point there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
They swooped baby girl up she'd have passed out in
the living room, took her totheir bedroom no, no, she's in
front of the christmas tree, ohso the parents are outside
freaking they're up there,they're gone.
Yeah, okay, we don't know wherethey are they don't want to do
the house party down the road orsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
So then it was Carla's turn to rape her own
sister.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Wait, wait, why so?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
they.
So Paul has raped her whileCarla holds the camera.
Now Carla is raping her whilePaul holds the camera, and this
whole time Tammy is on herperiod.
Oh poor baby girl.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Goodness Lindsay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
So rape her as in.
How Did they?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
elaborate Vaginally and anally by Paul and then by.
I forgot the word.
But Did he pull out the winebottle again?
No, but Carla basically wentdown on her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I'm twitching, my eye is twitching, my eye is
twitching and she's on herperiod at the same time, her
sister.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
So suddenly Tammy starts to vomit, of course, and
then she choked on her own vomitand the vomit fills up her
lungs, aspirated.
They tried to resuscitate herbut couldn't and they quickly
got dressed, drug Tammy to herroom, attempted mouth-to-mouth
and then called 911.

(01:17:42):
Lindsey Carla quickly got ridof the halothane evidence while
waiting for the ambulance.
Tammy was rushed to thehospital and the scene was
inspected by the police and thestory that was told was they
were watching a movie.
Everyone fell asleep and theywoke up to the sound of Tammy
gagging, but there was achemical burn on Tammy's face

(01:18:06):
from the halothane.
Oh yeah, but Paul quickly saidthat that was a carpet burn from
them dragging her on the flooras they attempted CPR.
They dragged her on her face.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Oh no, that was a chemical burn.
That was a serious drop.
The biggest fucking thing I'veever felt in my life In 1990,
that was believable.
I pulled her off the couch andwe drug her a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
The Canadian police failed a whole lot in this
entire story, because this isjust part one Period.
Blood would have beeneverywhere too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
This is part one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
This is part one, and it would have been on him
because he did it and thensister didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
I'm fitting to wrestle both of y'all man.
Why are y'all dropping thisshit?
Shelly you part of this, I knowyou are.
Why are you acting all hardover here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
I do feel like there would have been her you should
be over here, puddled by me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
So, while all this, inspection is happening and Paul
and Carla are gettingquestioned.
A call came in from thehospital telling the family that
Tammy had passed away.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
And not from drug overdose, from aspirating on her
own vomit where she drank thatone little freaking vodka drink
and her little.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I think it was rum and eggnog is what it was.
I'm pretty sure that that'swhat it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Her parents said yeah , you can have one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
You can have a couple of drinks because we're in the
house, but what about the?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
menstruation oral gratification.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
That's where we're leaving off for today.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You're leaving off right now, lindsay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I'm sorry y'all, this is a huge case.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I don't know anything about this whole entire case,
but you better believe it.
But you're going to be backnext week for part two.
Now I'm calling you tomorrow.
Luckily I'm in the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I'm in the corner right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I'm going to do my research at home.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
If I could be in the fetal position.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Because I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.
Like Jesse don't ever get nosleep.
Not knowing the whole rest ofthe story, I know Like it gets
worse.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
This is horrible, it gets worse than this.
It gets worse than this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
It gets worse than this, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
I got chills right now.
So, you guys, that's the restof the story I still have to
write.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I'm halfway done writing part two, but I still
have to finish.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Look at her.
At least you're chilling outbecause, like it took her a lot
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
all that she knew it was going to get rough.
That's why I was like, let meget through this Under the
Christmas tree in the livingroom, freaking floor on the
pretty rug, and it's Carla'ssister.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
A baby On Christmas Day, that's still a baby to me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Presents have been opened.
She had her one little eggnogdrink and she knew she was
poisoned.
She even said out loud, so theypoisoned my drink.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
She knew yeah, oh yeah, her exact words.
Or these people are trying topoison me, and it went unnoticed
by everybody nobody in thehouse fucking suck, the parents
fucking suck no, everybody sucksand I don't because, and I
don't want to, I don't want tovictim blame parents because in

(01:21:01):
our last story there was a lotof neglect that it was accepted
in that day and time there'ssome turned blind eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
We don't want to be blamed because we don't know
exactly where they were what washappening how?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
early they went to bed.
And how much they trusted thisfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
They don't, they don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
They obviously trusted him for the last couple.
Trust him like we know thathe's a disgusting rapist, but
they didn't know that yeah, theyhad no clue about that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
No vanilla paper.
Yeah, fucking lice full vanillathat would have been a turnoff
for me.
I've been like, oh, he's tryingto be a rapper, yeah yeah,
that's his name.
That's his name vanilla liceand then if I, after I read his
lyrics, I would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
oh no, it's so horrible God.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Yeah, it's definitely terrible.
You got me fucked up, Lindsay,right here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
You really did so that is the end of part one.
I'm so sorry guys, I've lefteverybody hanging, but you have
to stay tuned for part two nextweek.
Definitely tune in next week,yes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Yeah, well, thank you for hanging out with us, shelly
.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
I had an awesome time .
I will definitely be here nextSaturday, next Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
What's today?
Saturday is when we're going torecord.
Friday we're celebrating ourboys' 20th birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Thank you for coming.
We'll fire this off next Fridayand you're going to be here
right.
That's going to be great.
I'm not ready for the greatness.
This is not greatness.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
No, at least we're going to find out, hopefully
that this dude gets caught,obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
I'm not spoiling.
But some type of justice isgoing to be served.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Just in case any of our listeners have never heard
of this before, Because we haveseveral women that have been
affected by this Jennifer, allthe girls from the bus station
area and their backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Their backyard, front yard stairwell of a parking
garage One dude got convictedand was in jail for 16 months.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
That was not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Good job, paying attention yes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
So I mean, I just want to know if I can play music
, yet I'm looking for somejustice here.
What about music?
Can I play music?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
yet yes, is he still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Shelly, am I allowed to play music yet?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
I'm going to write this dude.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Tell him how much I hate him.
You should, honestly, I wouldnever but.
No, I mean he should get allthe hate mail.
Fuck that Dude, fuck him, FuckVanilla, Lass no because he's
already cocky and narcissistic.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
He would like the fact that he got mail.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
A mail.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yeah, he would get a letter, he'd be like ooh, this
chick done, frowned out about meand oh I'm going to jack off to
this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Oh, fuck that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
I'm not giving him no satisfaction.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
But what about music?
Can I play music?
Yeah, tell me what band.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Are you plugging today D LA LA Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
The tacos are always better.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Live and die in.
La.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Yes, I got this cool ass band that I want to play.
They are called FrequencyWithin and they're from LA.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Frequency Within.
I'm going to find them rightnow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
And I talked to Jenna Lynn and they got some badass
music.
So I want to play that stuff.
So this is Frequency Within.
This song is called Struck.
I want you guys to check thisout and support the band from LA
.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yes, follow them on their socials as well as
following us, but we'll say thatmore at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
I'm excited.
This band is badass.
So check this stuff out.
Here we go.

(01:24:56):
We'll be right back, chasingthe sensation, overwhelmed by
the feeling Stuck in this worldthat you turned upside down, I
can now touch the ceiling,buzzed by the feeling, feeling

(01:25:18):
Struck, blown.
You're Blown.
You're Out Of Love.
You're Out Of Love.
Hurry, hurry, try to Stop Me.
Stop Me Forever.
Let me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Go, break the seal of silence, break me to calamity.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Look me in the eyes and promise this breaking point
won't come from me.
Oh no, I swear.
It's possessed by the feeling,feeling Struck by your hope.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
It's all too late, struck by your arrow.
Hurry, hurry, try to stop me.
Hurry, hurry, let me go.
Let me go While the stars fallaround me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Glistening sparks fall to my feet.
Don't let darkness isolate me.
Don't let darkness isolate me.
Please don't let it.
It consume me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
While the stars fall around me.
I'm in time.
Smile, stare, Make this feelinglast forever.
Ties by your snare.
Make this feeling last forever,Forever I'll be here.
I will be here.
I will be Persist by thefeeling Struck by your arrow.

(01:27:41):
I'm feeling Hurry, hurry, tryto stop me.
I'm feeling, I'm feeling Let mego.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
I'm feeling, I'm feeling I'm feeling I'm feeling
I'm feeling Struck by your arrow.

(01:28:16):
Let me go Frequency Within.
I really liked it.
They're really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Heck yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
I love that A little mixture of garbage, no doubt.
And I just love it.
It's just so, la, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Do you like it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
I liked it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Lindsay, you have puddled me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
It was a nice wrap-up to the first part of this
horrific story, which will beworse in part two.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
And there's a whole other fucking part coming and
you just left me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Jesse is stressed out .

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Poor baby girl that died on us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Oh, that is the most.
How do you put that together,knowing that was what the fuck
just fucking happened, lindsay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I know, like I said, it's easier actually putting it
together than it is talkingabout it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Anyhow, if you're around LA, check out frequency
within yes that's a really cool.
Struck is a really cool song.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
It's really cool so follow them on musical platforms
.
Instagram, follow us on drinkabout something dot site.
Yeah, instagram.
Youtube.
Send us YouTube, send us aGmail, send us a request if
there's a story that you want usto talk about.
Yes, and what was I going tosay after that?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
You were going to say that Shelly's going to come
back for part two yeah, she is,she's invested now Definitely
invested.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
I loved every bit of this, had so much fun.
Thank you guys for having me.
Yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
We'll have you back for part two.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
And we're going to just close this thing out and
see you guys next Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Yes, if you're listening to us, leave us a
review.
That really helps the show getinto the algorithm.
We really appreciate it and weappreciate everybody that's out
there listening.
We love you.

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