EPISODE 33: Turpin family horror

What drives parents to imprison, starve, and torture their own children for decades? The Turpin family case stands as one of America's most shocking examples of familial abuse hidden behind closed doors.

This story forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about how such abuse can exist in plain sight, our responsibility to report concerns, and why our systems repeatedly fail vulnerable children—even after rescue. Listen and ask yourself: What would you have done if you'd noticed something wrong in the house next door?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:02):
hey, jesse happy friday, lindsey hello, hello.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Listeners pop a top again.
So what are you drinking today?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I have a mixture I have a bunch of shit going on
here.
I got this and that and theother here.
What is this?
Uh, pull this out of my ass.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here it's a vista bay raspberry it's very good you
brought me this and you broughtme a celsius tropical vibe.
Yes, and what's in that littlegoblet over there?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I went to my bourbon cabinet yeah to the cabinet.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I already had a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
So yeah, it's Port Finish St Augustine Distillery,
your favorite Motherfuckingbourbon.
Yes, it's my last little bit, Iknow.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We got to go back.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I threw it to the bottle before I threw it away.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let's go back to the beach and the distillery.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's a promise that you're going to have to fulfill
for me there, lindsay.
Okay, it's going to have tohappen.
It's going to have to happen.
I'm just saying that it's goingto have to happen, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's going to have to happen.
What are you?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
drinking over there.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm having a pineapple Vista Bay.
I think it's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I feel like I'm way more colorful.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I really like.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Than you.
I really like the lemon limealso yeah.
And in the other box I loveVista Bay and in the other.
I'm just waiting for you totalk for me.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
In the other box Say something that way, oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
God, it'll interrupt you and get you all flustered,
okay.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
In the other, I'll be , quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm just saying I'll be quiet.
You can go ahead In the otherbox Chessie is enough, she's
going to kill me.
Okay, go ahead, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
In the other box.
I enjoy the watermelon and thelemon the best, and then the
punch flavors.
They're all good.
I like Vista Bay.
Yes, vista Bay is the tits.
It's very good, very good, verygood, very crisp, very crisp,
hard seltzer.
Today is beautiful.
It's a beautiful day outsideand we've been inside most of it
.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I've been singing fucking.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
A roar wave.
Yeah, a roar wave.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But so many.
I found so many cool new bandsand roar wave is coming up.
They're fixing to be like hugefamous.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So I'm oh yeah, like I think I already said it on the
last episode, but they're gonnabe onrock and that is so
fucking cool Dudes are likekilling it man.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So in the new stuff, the new songs and just oh, a
baby of ours.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That we found and shared to our little listeners
here.
I love it.
Yes, good.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, so let's roll that intro oh.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
God, happy Friday.
Happy motherfucking Friday.
Yeah, motherfucking happyFriday.

(03:09):
How's that?
Oh, I do this whole thing withmy shoulders.
Now Look at this, isn't it cool?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
They can't see it, he's doing a little jiggeroo
with his shoulders, with hisshoulders, with his shoulders,
so shoulders With his shoulders.
So we're on episode 33.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Dirty 33.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I had to look because I couldn't remember what
episode we are on.
And do you want to know whatwe're drinking about today?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, go ahead.
Tell me, Miss Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
What are we?
Well, today we're going to bedrinking about the Turpin family
.
But before we get into that,turpin family.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, turpin time Like Turpin, turpin, turf, just
Turpin, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Before we get into that, what made you feel old
this week?
Look at you.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Can't fucking see shit up close man.
Oh yeah, can't fucking see shitup close man.
Oh yeah, I noticed that.
I mean I just put like I wearglasses and contacts, so I put
my contacts back in and thennotice that either way with my
glasses or my contacts- I can'tsee shit up close, so it might
be time to upgrade yourprescription.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I mean, don't put bifocals on contacts.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So that's, I don't know bifocals on contacts, so
that's I don't know Cause my dadcan they?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, my dad has been a bifocal.
If his glasses are Coke, bottleas fuck, but he wears contacts.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I don't know, I can't see shit up close.
I know that one Well.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm already like three.
I know I have to take a pictureof small print and blow it up.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh, so you've already been there.
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, but there's a few things that made me feel old
.
So I've had this ongoing sinusinfection that I may have to
tell a doc for some antibioticsbecause I'm about sick of it.
Now.
It's like when I bend over,sick of it now.

(05:08):
It's like when I bend over.
Um, when I bend over like the,it burns right in this in the
nose area and up here where myeyes is.
My eyes will be watering andyou know, I really thought it
was allergies but it just can'tget it out, it ain't going away
and then let's see, I haven'tbeen able to wake up at my
normal time that I want to wakeup.
All week it's been like 30minutes past.
Yeah yeah, old sucks.

(05:29):
And then that pizza that we atelast night tried to kill me,
dude.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I woke up in the middle of the night last night,
yeah, and Lindsay was over therepraying to all the gods.
Oh and it was so acidic and andI'm like I feel so bad for my
baby so I went and got her somewater.
You know, like what else do Ido?
I don't want to come like Iwant to be around her.
I don't want to hover.
No, her hair is not in thefucking way.

(05:55):
It looks like she's kicking ass.
Whatever she's in it.
Get her a drink of water andjust set it down.
I'm like, ah, I hope you feelbetter.
If you you need anything, I'mhere, whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, sometimes it just feels good to get it out of
your body when it's botheringyou.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Can't eat the same shit you used to.
It was almost like relief.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
But yeah, so it was grandkid night so we ordered a
shit ton of pizza.
We get the meat treat and weget the supreme and veggie and
it was real good going down.
We went ham for real but yousee my ass, go get me a pralisek
before I started, yeah, so Ihave, I'm good, I'm gonna do
that from now on when we eattomato based um foods like the,

(06:38):
the bloody mary's and shit,don't bother me, it's really not
the damning, not theingredients so much.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It's actually just the bread or something with the
pizza, but I didn't eat.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I only ate the toppings.
All I ate on the bread was thethin crust, which is barely
bread at all.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I had like two pieces of that.
But I can eat all those sameingredients any other time
without being a pizza and I'mfine.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
But we put it in pizza form and it is heartburn
sitting.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yes, deadly, it's deadly.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
So, if you are new here, what we do is we have a
drink or two.
Sometimes I tell Jesse a truecrime story that I've been
wanting to spill my guts about,but I save it for the pod.
So I tell him a story.
Sometimes I break him,sometimes I puddle him,

(07:34):
sometimes he just wants to leave.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Last weekend I flipped the script on you.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You did, I was like sir.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Who is this dude over here?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's like agreeing with this Like.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I said I wasn't agreeing like with it, I was
just trying to.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I wasn't and I wasn't victim blaming whatsoever,
because murder is never theanswer.
But at the same time, I don't.
My head cannot, cannot, wraparound how a woman in her
twenties can be ruled by theirparents Right.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You couldn't find comprehension in the status In
our house.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
we have a 20 year old living at home.
He's got.
He's got certain things he'sgot to do during the week and
he's got to pay a certain amountof money for his car payment,
you know, and insurance andstuff.
But other than that he's gotfreedom, yeah yeah, and has
pretty much since he turned 18yeah because how are you gonna,

(08:28):
especially if they have a joband we're letting him?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
establish yeah, manhood, right that's coming to
it and to his own and be his ownperson, be a good person.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But I wasn't like supporting her I knew exactly
what you meant and it was just.
It's still, but, like I said,my rebellious spirit could never
, never.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
You wanted me to be up in arms with you.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, not really, I just didn't.
Your understanding of it wasjust surprising to me, like odd.
Yeah, yeah, it was a little oddKarate artery.
But at the end of the episodewe also plug a band that Jesse
has diligently sought out andgotten permission to play and

(09:12):
he's really excited about thisweek.
He's already brought it upseveral times.
So we're going to get thisthing rolling, but we're going
to do things just a littledifferent.
We're going to start with that911 call.
Ok, yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So I'm going to need you to plug that in real quick
here we go y'all and we're goingto start the ride of the Turpin
family, because these arehorrific.
Usually, this stuff reallystarts setting the tone, mm-hmm.
So you're wanting to fuck me upon this one Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it's important.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Lindsay, thank you Thank you 911 emergency.
What are you reporting?
Um hello, this is 911, do youhave an emergency?
I just want to leave from homebecause I live in a family of 15
.
Okay, can you hear me?
And we have abusing parents,did you hear that?

(10:08):
Okay, how did they abuse you?
Okay, they hit us, they throwus across the room, they pull
our hair, they yank out our hair.
I have two.
My two little sisters right noware chained up.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, how old are you ?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm 17.
What's your name?
Foden Turpin.
Oh, yes, I'm still here.
What's your address?
Okay, you've got to give me aminute.
Let's go take a walk.
I've never been out.
I don't go out much, so I don'tknow anything about the streets
or anything.
Does anybody at the house takeany kind of medication?
I don't know what medication.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It is Whoa, there's the whole house full and
everything.
She's like I've never reallybeen out, Like I don't even
understand what that is youheard her voice, can you believe
that she's 17?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
She sounds five she did At the most to me Maybe.
Okay, we'll say seven, to talkthat clearly, right?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
17.
Very creepy, very not normal.
I'm trying to wrap my headaround just that call alone.
So I'm starting off with that.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
This is what you gave me.
Yes, this is what you gave me.
Well, so if you didn'tunderstand clearly, that was
17-year-old Jordan Turpin andshe is one of the 13 Turpin
children brought into this worldby David and Louise Turpin.
After that phone call, onJanuary 14, 2018, police were
brought into one of the mosthorrific scenes that you can

(11:39):
imagine.
The Turpin house in Paris,California, was covered in trash
, filth, feces, urine, moldedfood and 13 children who were
starving, malnourished, filthyand some of them chained to
their beds.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
What the fuck, Lindsay?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
The age range of the Turpin children for from two to
twenty nine.
So how did we get here?
All right, david, I don't knowif I want to be here.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
You can't leave the hell on.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
What the hell You're in now, oh you got me?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, I, I got you.
Now I have to ride this wave.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, hold on, it's not aurora I knew you were gonna
say that oh, man, no, oh, I'mpicturing it, I'm trying to.
It's all, just it's coming andit's gonna be fucking so david
allen turpin was born on october17th 19, 1961, and he was a man

(12:43):
of the pentecostal faith.
He did well in school andgraduated as a computer engineer
from virginia tech and workedfor lockheed martin androp
Grumman.
He met the woman that he wouldmarry when he was 23 years old,
and she was barely 16.
And her name was Louise AnnRobinette.

(13:06):
So Louise, she was born on May24th 1968.
And she, unfortunately, wouldbe sexually abused most of her
life by her grandfather, andthis abuse was allowed by her
mother, who had also been abusedby the same man.
What, yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Very horrific.
Just fucked up all right offthe rip.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, we're kicking you right in the nuts off the
rip, okay.
Off the rip, okay.
So David and Louise married inParisburg, virginia, in 1985.
And between 1988 and 2015, thecouple would have 10 sons and
three daughters, all with thename or all with names starting
with the letter J.
Wow.

(13:51):
They believe that God hadcalled upon them to have as many
children as possible.
In the early years, the familyseemed to be doing great.
They lived in Fort Worth, texas, and David was making a
six-figure salary, which is nice.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
So he's traveling around with Lockheed and it
looks like he went fromCalifornia.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, California is where we start the story.
We're going back in time.
Yeah, he started in Virginia,okay, okay, now we're the story
we're going back in time, yeah,he started in Virginia.
Okay, okay, now we're in FortWorth Texas.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, but he's moving around because of, probably,
his job.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yes, yes, yeah, that's what I mean, and so they
lived in Fort Worth and Davidwas making six figures.
They would invite familymembers to stay for a week at a
time once a year and would go totheme parks like Disney and Six
Flags, all paid for by theTurpin family.
Louise's sister, Teresa, wouldsay that at this time the family
home was always spotless andeveryone always seemed really

(14:47):
happy.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So it seems good so far at this point.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, but they were definitely definitely living
beyond their means.
Oh, and I actually filed forbankruptcy the first time in
1992.
They only had two kids at thispoint.
Oh yeah, by 1998, they now hadsix children and all the lavish
family trips stopped.

(15:11):
And when the oldest child,jennifer, started attending
school, she was picked onbecause she was dirty and smelly
and she actually had a candybar wrapper being used as a
scrunchie to pull her hair back.
Wow yeah.
So a lot went downhill from 92to 98.
And I don't this to me.

(15:32):
I don't understand why thisisn't reported.
And I don't this to me.
I don't understand why thisisn't reported.
When a kid has a candy barwrapper in their hair as a
ponytail holder, you need to saysomething.
Start with the parents and ifshe's, you can.
I mean teachers know.
Teachers know when a kid isbeing made fun of because
they're dirty and smelly.
They can look right at them andsee that they're dirty and

(15:53):
smelly.
That usually means that there'sproblems in the home.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Who else is better to know about kids than somebody
who's around a whole lot ofdifferent kids Right, and I mean
and they're all like mandatoryreporters.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
So that's.
That's just where a lot of this, a lot of things just go unsaid
, unreported.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Definitely noticed.
Things could have beenprevented.
Yeah yeah, y'all better saysomething If my kid's doing
something crazy and goes toschool smelly.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Right, Like I'm mad if my kid smells like body odor
just walking past me in my ownhouse.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm upset.
We're going to tell him tobegin with.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yes, if there's something shady that we need to
know about, about our own child,tell me.
And you know and actually itmight have been looked into a
little bit because shortly afterthat they started homeschooling
the kids now I'm pulling themout I don't want to put this, uh
, put a bad stigma on that,because we are now homeschooling

(16:50):
our kid, but it's not becausehe was dirty and smelly and
we're unclean, it's because hewas having it does get smelly
though yeah, he does, but wemake him wash.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
He has to.
He has to wash.
Yes, 11 year old now it's abody of a 14 year old.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's a fight, but we make him wash.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
He don't always do the best job, but we don't live
in filth.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
His clothes are clean , they smell like tide pots,
okay, but anyways, for the inthis, in this situation, they
pulled them kids out becausethey was getting a little
attention put on them.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, and everything in the household was just went
way the fuck down and theyreally they really weren't
homeschooling them.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Um, according to Jennifer, like she remembers, at
first it was like that and thenit just it went downhill, but
we're gonna keep on with thestory.
So, in 1999, they now haveseven children and moved to a
more secluded area in Rio Vista,texas.
This was on a farm, basically,and the new owners of their

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previous home was horrified atthe mess that was left behind,
which also included, likescratches on doors, feces on the
walls, and they assumed thatthis was made by animals.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Them poor ass kids.
I know Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now I do want to say one of my main sources for this
case was from Jennifer Turpins.
She's the oldest from her bookcalled when Was God, and it's so
sad because she apologizesright off the top that it may
not be.
What's the word grammatically?

(18:31):
No, that can't be right.
It doesn't have all the correctgrammar but it was still easy
to listen to.
It was you got the moral of thestory?
You know what I mean.
You got are not the moral, butyou understood what she was
talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
The best she can, yes with education very low
education level right and me.
I've graduated at least fromhigh school and been around a
whole bunch of stuff and I stillseem ignorant as fuck.
It's the Appalachian in me.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's deep-rooted, deep-rooted.
So now when they get to RioVista.
At first the Turpin childrenwere allowed to play with other
kids in this area, but thatdidn't last long.
One neighbor recalls how whitethe kids hands were, like they
were wearing gloves, butactually that was only the only

(19:23):
clean part of their body.
Oh, that was just that damndirty Right the neighbor said
that the children told her itwas a waste of water to clean
anything above your wrist.
Yeah, now, instead of reportingthis, the neighbor just stopped
interacting with the Turpinsand didn't let her kid interact

(19:45):
with them anymore.
And David and Louise stoppedletting their kids out during
the day at all and they wereonly allowed out at night and
they had to stay close to homeso to avoid society completely
they only their fucking mindsthey only let their kids out at
night and they're literallyliving nocturnally, yeah they

Speaker 2 (20:08):
should have lost their kids a long fucking time
ago.
Oh yeah, somebody would havetook way better.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Care, man, come on another neighbor said that they
saw two of the poys digging inthe trash can for food, but
still nothing was reported, justnosy neighbors that wanted to
talk on TV after all this isyeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I didn't say nothing.
Sons of bitches.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now Jennifer says that in this house it was ankle
deep in trash, god and human andanimal waste.
She said they had like six dogsso they got dogs and human shit
?
oh yeah, I think they uh, oh oh,I did not put this in my story,
but she shares in her book howshe had gotten a kitten, just

(20:52):
fell in love with this animaland, um, and all the dogs mainly
lived outside and, for somereason, her parents after a
couple of years of her havingthis cat I don't remember the
exact distance, so please eitherread or listen to her book on
audible when was God?
Um, she says that her parentsbasically just made her let the

(21:15):
cat, knowing that the dogs wouldattack it and kill it.
Yeah, little Smokey, and thatjust like shattered her whole
world.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know, at that point, Well, here's what I want
to try to figure out right now.
How in the fuck did her parents, how did these two human beings
decide that this is just goingto be their lifestyle?
They, they didn't have thatgrowing up as as well, there is
no real answer, I meanunfortunately.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
But jennifer does talk about how, as as a child,
she remembers her mother beingthis wonderful person, but her
father was always kind ofabusive towards her mother and
then slowly over the years hermother just starts getting
meaner and nastier and filthier,and it just so something

(22:10):
between the two mental.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, it was like Jennifer said one day between
them, and I'm going to talkabout that here in just a second
yeah.
He had broke her to the pointwhere she just didn't give a
fuck, and then he didn't carethat she didn't care, and then
it just kept.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean I got a lot more story.
So yeah, I'm still on the firstpage here.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
OK, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
So Jennifer said that when she would try to clean,
her mother would get mad at her,her, and dump all the trash
that she had cleaned up.
She would dump it back on thefloor, she says in the house.
In the house there were snakebeds, mice nest and spiders
everywhere.
She actually developed thishuge arachnophobia because she

(22:52):
was getting something from underone of the beds one day and she
pulled her arm out and wascovered in spiders.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, Jennifer so she Like a hoarder house, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh yeah, completely, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
And all these kids running around and you get.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
There's several, there's a 2020 special and there
is documentaries on YouTube.
There is a documentary that Icould not.
It's not, it wasn't on any ofthe apps that we already pay for
and I wasn't going to pay foranother one.
So I, like I said, my mainsource for this was Jennifer's
book.
So, jennifer, she actuallyattempted to escape and got

(23:31):
about three miles from home andwas picked up.
She didn't know any key factsabout she was 20, by the way, at
this time.
Okay, she didn't know any anykey facts about her life.
Um, she, she did know her age.
She didn't know who thepresident was, and all she
wanted to know was how she couldget a job, an apartment and a

(23:54):
car.
So the person that picked herup took her into town and
Jennifer started walking around.
She found a daycare because shewas the oldest, so she'd been
basically taking care of thesekids since she was of age, you
know, to be in charge of heryounger siblings.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
She was the one really doing anything and
probably trying to give themsome kind of she said around the
age of 11.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
When she was 11 is when her mother just basically
made her start doing everythingLike cooking and it was
microwave shit for her siblings.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Her parents went out all the time and would leave
them for days at a time and theywould just eat the food, throw
the shit on the floor and walkaway.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
And they would buy that.
And I felt bad, because we buyshit for us too, but at the same
time our kids don't want foranything, we just have our
certain things.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
That we can't split up, who doesn't?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Right, you know, but our kids aren't starving by any
means we buy them shit.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, they have their own shit, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
But so she?
She went to a daycare and sheasked how she could get a job.
They gave her an application,but Jennifer didn't know her
address, her Social Securitynumber, nor did she have an ID.
She felt defeated and actuallythought about jumping in front
of a moving vehicle to end herlife.
But she says God told her notto and to trust in him.

(25:20):
So she says that she found alittle house by a church and
knocked on the door and a sweetcouple took her in.
They cleaned her up, fed herand took her to a football game.
But the next day she says thatit was God.
But in my most humble opinion,Jennifer, if you listen to this
this is just my humble opinionit was probably a mixture of
fear and Stockholm Syndrome.

(25:40):
She called her mother to comeget her.
Yeah, she was 20.
She was thinking abouteverybody else and she was
thinking about her siblings.
That's what she's done sinceshe was 11.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yep, yeah, that's what that was.
Poor Jennifer, poor everybodyin this whole ass family.
Oh God, I I know it's just andit, okay, let's.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Let's get there before I talk about that.
Okay, so right beforejennifer's escape, david lost
his job and the family went intosevere debt and their farm was
foreclosed on.
So they just packed up and left.
The neighbors decided to take apeek in on this abandoned home
and it was, of course, absolutesqualor.
And was it reported?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
no, once again, no.
Follow them.
Go find out who these peopleare.
They're fixing to livesomewhere else like this with
all these kids.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
The pets were left behind.
There was like a pig and dogsall left behind that were just
surviving on trash.
The neighbor shelly, who hadpreviously interacted with the
Turpin kids.
She saw that there were ropesthat were tied to the bunk beds
and just assumed that the kidshad done that.
Not that these kids were beingtortured in their own home, but

(26:49):
she sure wanted to talk about itlater.
But she didn't report a thing.
She was nosy, nancy.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
We just had three people move out of our
cul-de-sac and if I didn't, if IHadn't seen Just the common
shit Set out of the curb, andthen you can peer in, because
they're moving In and out andyou can see these nice Cleaned
out houses.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes, yes, it felt a little like it was two foot deep
, our neighbor's garage.
Was way more organized Thanours was way more organized than
ours.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
We try so hard, we got too much play shit and then
he goes out there and plays withall the play shit.
I mean we have?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
yeah, because we have stuff for Christmas and camping
and beach and kids, oldfootball shit and pictures and
festivals and yeah, all this.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
So he goes out there and plays and screws it all out.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then he's got his drum set out there and, yeah,
like our neighbor, but it's notnasty.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
But I'm saying, if I rode by any of those houses and
seen it two foot deep In trashand animals and shit and 15 kids
piling out and look likethey're still living in caves.
You know I would have been.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
They're going to report it, especially if you
know kids are involved,especially if you know if 13
fucking kids are involved?
Yeah, because these houses thatthese kids are living in are
not much bigger than what's inour neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
13 of them, well, even if they left and it was
hard for us to have four in thishouse if they were completely
gone from this state, I would belike somebody needs to come
find out where these people justmoved to, because what they
were doing in their life whenthey left it needs to be to be
checked out Well yeah, in thesedays too, and that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Like that house was foreclosed on, yes, but somebody
bought the previous housebefore they moved out.
They didn't come and look at it.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, all the hush mouth bullshit.
Yeah, fuck that.
And then they want to talk shitlater.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Right, right, right, right, right, fuck.
So when, when David and Louisepicked up Jennifer, her mom was
crying and apologizing, sayingthings would change.
But as soon as they got to thehotel that the family was now
living in, all that shit wentright out the window.
So they even told Jennifer thatthey could have her arrested

(28:55):
for child neglect, since she hadbeen the one in charge of all
the siblings.
What, yeah, her parents toldher that.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I'd have beat the shit out of my parents.
They told me some shit likethat.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
These kids couldn't beat the shit out of nothing
because they were malnourished.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
But like doing all that, I'd have been like y'all
kids, y'all kids, y'all, comewith me.
Right now we all going to goexpose all of this.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
But I wish that the people that Jennifer had stayed
the night with had intervened.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
They were like you know Giving and caring, but at
the same time they kind ofturned their back on.
They had to have seen howsmelly and stinky she was.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
She had to have told them she was a 20-year-old woman
who was the size of a12-year-old.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
And probably talking like a 12-year-old.
She had nothing to go off from.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right it was just.
So they stayed in severalextended day hotels and then
made their move to Marietta,california, into a cul-de-sac
neighborhood, surprisingly Now.

(30:05):
Previously, david and Louisehad been super religious didn't
drink, didn't smoke, gamble oreven go out to a bar
occasionally.
Now, 10 kids and a coupledecades into their married life
later, they decide now is thetime to party and sow their wild
oats.
And that is literally a quotefrom them.
Yeah, I'm so fucking disgusting,these people even got into
witchcraft and swinging andthere's nothing wrong with
either one of those, but whenyou neglect your 13 children,

(30:31):
take a go and do some bullshiteverything you're done, doing
yes you and everything you'redoing yeah what the fuck,
lindsey?
david even arranged for louiseto sleep with another man in a
hotel while he waited outside,and this was recorded for David
to view for his pleasure lateron.
Holy shit, catch me outside.

(30:54):
How about that?
A year later, david bought thesame room and slept with his
wife in the same bed to rememberthat event.
And then their wild days cameto a close.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
They shot the fuck out, lindsay.
I'm like I don't know what todo right now.
I don't have some squirming,I'm squirming and then I don't
know.
I just want to go and fix this.
I want to go fix it right now.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I can't well, and then they said their wild days
came to a close, it was overwith.
So, david, now david and louisedecided disgusting.
David, david and Louise decidedto open a school called the
Sandcastle Day School, but theonly students were their own
children and they didn't do muchteaching because Jordan would
go on to say that she never, shedoesn't even remember finishing

(31:39):
like third grade yeah, level ofschooling.
And she said that like shewould try to teach her siblings
things and her parents would geton to her about it, like she
would try to teach them shitthat she knew and and, literally
wanting to be on my way, I know.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Go grab them youngins up, I know, and let them hang
out in the backyard in a kiddiepool for a while.
Yes, come in, and I know.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like we'll just take all the couches out, line up the
beds and and just have themrotate taking showers, and you
know, I know there's something,somebody, somebody knew somebody
, I mean there's just.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean we already see there's been quite a few people
that could have reportedrunning into all kind of shit
there that should have happenedand I just I'm so up in arms
right now, I just want to go, Iwant to go, I want to go fix it
somehow.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
In 2014, they moved to Paris, california, and
actually allowed the oldest boyto attend community college.
Classmates would say that ondays that there was food in
class, like donuts or pizza, theturpin boy would eat nonstop.
And you know and I know, I'venever been starving at any time

(32:55):
in my life.
But if I'll go like a 24 hourfast and I start eating, I like
have to make myself stop or I'mgoing to be sick, and that's
just 24 hours.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Have you ever been around somebody like that?
In that situation where theyhave like a, you can tell that
that person situation where theyhave like a no.
You can tell that that personover there just really is hungry
.
No, and that's so sad it is, itis very that's, I mean.
I so super sympathize with allof this because I have literally
been in that situation whereyou're the person that shows up

(33:26):
and you watch them physically,just engulf all that just as
much as they can, because theydon't get it, you know.
That's.
That's why I'm like up at armsright now.
I want to go and fix it rightnow.
You're going to make me be asocial worker or some bullshit.
This ain't you.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You're going to make me go sign up for be a good one?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, no, I would.
I would be classified as a badone because I'm fucking pissing
off everybody by doing myfucking job, right thing right
exactly that would be me.
I would get fired very quickbecause I actually did my
fucking job.
Yeah, damn, lindsey, you'remaking me go down the roots of
me.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
You're breaking me down into my roots, I know well,
let me get through this storyand then you can share, I know.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
We're wrestling later after this one.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
In 2015,.
Child number 13 was born andDavid arranged for a vow renewal
in Las Vegas.
Elvis impersonator and all andall 13 kids were in attendance,
and you can watch this onYouTube.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He should have got a scrotum removal while he did his
vow renewal.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Now the kids are matching in this video.
I watched it.
They're matching and clean, butlook so tiny and some of them
can't even walk properly.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's very Well they was tying them kids up and
keeping them all huckle buck.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, and they're malnourourished, so they're not
growing and developing.
I mean, you know, the littleones, oh god, it just yeah, but
that would keep them in roomsand shit.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Let them walk and go play exactly have a life.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I can't believe all this man and it's just and
knowing what you know it's, it'scringe and terrifying as fuck,
like just watching this family.
Oh god, I, I'm going to pausereally quick, you guys.
I have to show I have to showJesse a picture.
I can already imagine, everyaspect in every single room, of
David Turpin.
This motherfucker has the worsthaircut ever known to mankind

(35:26):
and you have a name for it and Ican't remember it off the top
of my head.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Hold on.
Yes, I have a name for hishaircut.
Yes, oh, here we go.
But I can imagine every singleroom, every single situation and
this woman, this young woman,having to take charge and at
least give them something inlife.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh yes, jennifer deeply cared for her siblings.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
There he is.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Humperdinck, humperdinck, yes, engelbert,
style.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Oh my God, and it's even worse, his haircut it's
even worse when he's younger.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I can't pull any of those pictures up His haircut
looks like 1960s Tupperware.
That's it, that's it, that isit.
Oh man Like 100%.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, he's the lost BG.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's David Turpin.
He is just completely horrificand I want to just tell you yeah
, I can't find any of theyounger ones, but you can see it
on the YouTube video if youdecide to watch the vow renewal.
I want to beat him all over andfor and for some of these kids
Over and over again.
For some of these kids it wasthe first time outside of the

(36:40):
walls of their own home.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Oh my God, I'm sorry, like I really want to go fight
this dude.
Oh yeah, I'm not a violent dude.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
He's got a punchable face and so does his wife, I'll
show you very little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I want to hit him with a two-by-four.
That already hit him and gavehim his haircut.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I do want you to watch the 2020 special.
It's only like an hour afterthis, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
But I want to get a two-by.
I'm on a hacksaw.
Jim Duggan his ass.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
So Jennifer says that before California the abuse was
mainly put on her.
David would beat her With thebelt until she bled For anything
that he said that she did wrong, and he even hit her in the
head with the belt Buckle.
That dude that dude right there.
He did some shit like this topeople.

(37:27):
He did that.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
He had that kind of household.
He hung out in his car, wasalways getting banged, he
mistreated his kids and havepigs and shit in his house and
two foot of garbage and feces.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
And has beaten this little girl and she all these
kids are little, I mean littledefenseless creatures.
Little, I mean littledefenseless creatures.
I mean she said when they gotto California at first things
were OK.
They were going on vacationsagain and they even got a year
pass to a theme park.
She says that they bought toysand gifts but those would be

(38:05):
quickly taken away aspunishments most of the time.
And she said Louise would havedesigner purses and collectible
dolls, like when they go in andinvestigate this house, like
there's all kind of new shitstill in packages.
That's, that's Louise's liketoys.
They're not the kids.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, what she looked like.
Is it my turn to see that?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yes, I can show you, louise.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I'm shooting on a piece of ice right now because
I'm already out of bourbon.
But, Lindsay, if she isEngelbert Humperdinck style too,
I want to die laughing.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh my God.
Ok, here's the picture of themat their vow renewal.
Look at the hair.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Look at him.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Look at the hair.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
So, OK, he looks like the big dude with the nail in
his head on Happy.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Gilmore yes, that's her.
After everything went down.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Haggard old bulldog.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Haggard old bulldog.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I don't make fun of people's looks by any means, but
she deserves it.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Oh yeah, fuck her, fuck her, she deserves it.
Oh yeah, fuck her, fuck her,fuck him, fuck them both.
But yeah, that's them side byside, uh-uh.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, this looks like warts.
They look like warts onsomebody's genitalia.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So Jennifer says that they would eat better food than
the kids saying they couldn'tafford to feed them the food
that they were eating.
Yeah, those would eat betterfood than the kids saying they
couldn't afford to feed them thefood that they were eating.
Yeah, they that those wordscame out of their mouth.
Jennifer says that after theyhad been in california for a
while, the abuse got shifted tothe other siblings.
She said that her mother wouldnow physically throw them across

(39:43):
the room saying she wishes theywould die and then chain them
up.
Then why?
Why have kids, Right?
Why the hell you have kids?
Jennifer says that one time herparents were going to set her
up with a guy and they actuallytold her that if she didn't have
sex with him he would probablytrigger warning, rape her.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
But Like she just might as well go ahead and give
it up.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
It didn't go through.
But Jennifer, like she saysthat, as well, go ahead and give
it up.
It didn't go through.
But jennifer, like she saysthat she knew that if any dude
that she was going to end upwith was going to have to be
picked by her parents, becausethey had her in complete bondage
she never got out.
Yeah, jennifer says that whenshe was 29.
This is how long this poor girlis in this house Twenty nine,

(40:30):
almost 30 years old, looks likeshe's 12.
When she was 29, she waswashing dishes and Louise just
looked at her and said I alwaysknew you grew up to be a slut
and go to hell.
I've always known to watch youclosely and she never kissed a
dude, yet no, she's never beenwith a guy at all.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
She never went out the only time that she's been
outside her house was when sheescaped for a day, and with how
horrifically beaten in to theirheads it is, she took that so
personally so personally.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I mean she talks about it in her book.
Yeah so hard.
Complete PTSD from this entireher entire life.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Couldn't clap back, no, and couldn't run, because
she was in fear of everybodyelse.
God, this is horrible Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
So Jennifer had been hearing about her parents talk
about another move, this time toOklahoma, where they planned on
keeping the children chained atall times or in cages.
David had been laid off fromhis job in Paris and had already
accepted a position in Oklahoma.
Now Jennifer and her sisterJordan had been planning another

(41:44):
escape for about two years.
Jennifer was too afraid to doit all by herself again, as she
had tried once and failed, andafter that everything just got
worse.
So she wanted to make sure, ifher sister had gotten out and
not been able to return withhelp, that she would at least be
there to protect her siblings.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
You know what my saving grace is behind all this?
99.9% of the people that willhear our fucking voices would
never live like that.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
No, no, the .1% might , yeah, and if they do and if
there is one out there that'sliving like this and they hear
this, maybe something will go upand be like you know what I
need to go get some help orsomething.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
If I get to that point, I'll let my kids go.
Y'all just go, y'all just go.
I'll take whatever fuckingpunishment they give me, because
it's got to be way better thanthis.
Don't fucking have kids.
If you're not ready to havekids mentally, physically,
financially Don't fucking havekids.
This is fucking.
You want to chain them, fuckingkids up in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
That was their absolute plan.
They wanted to keep them.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
He needs to put his finger in his ass and mine
Arkansas by himself.
That's what he needs to do.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Now, jennifer had a phone at this time and the
parents were paying the bill,and it was closely monitored
what she was doing on the phone.
This phone was mainly so thatDavid and Louise could keep in
contact with her while they wereeither at work or out doing
their own thing, you know,because they did that a lot and
so the plan was to use adeactivated phone that was still

(43:20):
able to call 911, and it neededto be done before the move to
Oklahoma.
So on January 14th 2018, thecall was made and the police
came pretty quickly to theTurpin home.
One fact that really stood outto me is that one of the kids,
who was around 11 years oldtheir arms were the same

(43:42):
circumference of a four monthold baby.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That just like that Lindsay.
That fact just like.
But they showed up, they'rethere, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but
that's how malnourished.
That's what we shared earlier.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Right, yes, that's, they're there, that's.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, that's when the call was made.
Yeah.
Here we go, we have fastforwarded now to 2018 and they
are now in.
But that's how malnourishedthese kids were.
An 11-year-old had the arm sizeof a four-month-old baby.
Yeah, my three-year-oldgranddaughter doesn't even have
this arm the size.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
We got chunky ass grandkids.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
We got chonky grandbibles.
But praise be yes Under his eye.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, all that, fuck yeah.
Under the boardwalk Whatever,boardwalk whatever.
Under all that, under thebridge downtown.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So David and Louise were arrested and charged with
12 counts of false imprisonment,7 counts of abuse of a
dependent adult and 6 counts ofchild abuse.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
And 1 count of a bad fucking haircut.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Oh my god.
Well, David also had a chargeof lewd acts on a child under 14
.
Now see, a lot of this case isnot as deep, but there's so many
underage kids that a lot ofthose facts have to be Right,
and that's why only Jordan andJennifer, I think, and one other

(45:02):
and Joseph they're the onlyones that I have found names on,
because the other's identitywas completely protected Of
Joseph, damn.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh my God.
All of them, though, like eachindividual human being, went
through so much trauma, so muchgarbage.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Well, he also had another charge of perjury on
affidavits he had filed aboutthe kids education, because you
know, yeah, they don't give ashit Right.
So on February 22nd 2019, theypled guilty to one count of
torture, three counts of childabuse, four counts of false
imprisonment and six counts ofcruelty of dependent adults.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Every human being in that fucking building was abused
.
Oh yeah, even their selves.
They were self-abusing.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely Count them in too.
Can you do that Can?
Absolutely Count them in too,can you do that?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Can you fucking do that?
It's all fucking there.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
That's what they were .
They were charged with all theothers, but they only pled.
You know, they only plead tothe lower you know lower amounts
.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I would hate to be their fucking lawyer, dude.
I would hate to be theirfucking lawyer.
I would not be there.
I would lose my job.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Well, they were both sentenced to life without the
possibility of parole after 25years.
But the story doesn't end there, really.
All the children spent abouttwo months in the hospital due
to heart damage from lack ofnutrition, cognitive impairments
and neuropathy.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
That's where, like your limbs go numb and shit yeah
.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
The six minor children were placed in two
separate foster homes, and fiveof them were adopted by a family
who also turned out to beabusive.
Shitty again, I know this iswhere I'm going to tear up,
because that's why I don't wantto be a social worker.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I don't want to do it .
Why, why didn't they get thefucking platinum package?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
This is where my faith in anything gets really
tested, because I want to knowwhy these children Look how mad.
You are right now.
Why do children have to gothrough stuff like this Right?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
It doesn't, it hurts.
They didn't ask for shit, theydidn't even ask to exist.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
They didn't ask to be here.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Okay, I'm not going to cry no, do it, just do it.
I'm fixing to do it too.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
This family hit these already severely damaged
children in the face withsandals, they pulled their hair,
they beat them with belts andwould strike them in the head.
They were forced to overeat,and when they would throw up
from that, they were forced toeat their own fucking vomit

(47:28):
Fancy oh.
Why do people exist like this?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I'm with you, dude, I'm so with you right now.
This is horrible, again, again.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
They had no fucking light on that end, and the
foster father was also accusedof grabbing, fondling and
kissing them on the mouth.
Now this family would go on tobe arrested as well.
But what the actual fuck?
There was other families, too,that watched more of the YouTube

(48:00):
videos.
Because that was as much as Icould write down without being
just fucking absolutely enraged.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, yeah, you got content on 11 humans, yes, and
all what the fuck reallyhappened, and then they're
getting shit on again.
It's nonstop, it's goodness,and then check this out.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
So when the initial investigation happened on the
Turpin parents, over $600,000was raised for the children and
put into a trust controlled bythis absolute cunt of a woman
named Vanessa Espinoza and sheshe denied Joseph Turpin, the
person, a purchase of not a car,not a motorcycle, a fucking

(48:42):
bicycle for transportation, fortransportation.
She just wanted something.
He didn't ask for anything elseother than a fucking bicycle
and he was denied.
Now I did the very simple mathand that six hundred thousand
dollars divided by 13 is around46 000, which is plenty of money

(49:03):
for these older kids to get adecent car paid off and and and
uh, probably a little studioapartment.
They just wanted a fuckingchance, right, they just wanted
a chance.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
And they've already been through enough.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
They've already been through enough.
Why are you doing this to them?

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Well, she got arrested too.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
There's a whole story on that.
She's covered in that special,so fucking horrific.
And this money was raised bythe public.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I bet you could spend another two days and we could
talk for two months on this shit.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
There's parts that there's some podcasters that
cover two and three parts onthis.
I had to make it small becauseI could not be enraged about
this family you are.
I know I'm like I'm red insideright now.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Listen to me.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I was watching inside out with the, with the
grandbaby, at like three in themorning and I'm that little red
dude.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
That little red dude is all in me, right now listen
to me about human existence realquick, because I'm fixing to
fuck you up again.
Well, you're clenching yourfist and you're saying, god, god
, god.
Imagine the thousands offucking years.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Shit like this and even worse is going on oh, I
know, I know, I know and I canpicture every single room in
this household and I've been inhouses almost like that.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I've been around people almost like that.
It is so fucking disgusting.
And I've been around a haircutalmost like that, and it's so
fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
He looks like that dude on the Princess Bride, the
white ghosty guy.
Yeah, what's his name?
I don't know, he's got the palelips good morrow, abbott.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Hey, I bet I hate that guy.
Kind of looks like that guy too, like when he's walking and
he's all like good morrow, goodmorrow, good morrow.
Hey, I bet there he is.
There he is with the fuckinglittle haircut on princess bride
.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
No I'm thinking of the ghostly white dude that's
who came to mind.
You know what I'm talking aboutthe ghostly white dude that's
who came?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
to mind you know, I'm talking about the torturer guy.
The torturer guy, yes, thesix-fingered.
The six-fingered yeah, he wasworking for the six-fingered,
the six, the six yeah,six-fingered man, my name is
eminu toya.
You put my father and prepareto die, and that was a great
movie.
I'm trying to bring some kindof light into it.
But imagine all the little boysand stuff that had all their
genitalia cut to be in churchand sing for church.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Well, and the Native Americans?

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Imagine all the people that used to march on
fields and take over wholecivilizations.
In the name of God.
I know what kind of God wasthat too?
So you're questioning all ofthat.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I know it hurts.
I have to stop thinking aboutit.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It hurts, it's man, it's man.
Oh no, I know, I know.
Just remember that and I do,and I'm not trying to stick on
any side of any religion or anyideological bullshit.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
It's fucking man, why can't the children be saved?
Why can't the children where'swhere's the light?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
yeah, but I mean, but it's been going on for human
existence, just period.
Disgusting.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
His haircut is fucking disgusting, so Jordan
Turpin, the Turpin girl who madethe 911 call.
She was released without noticefrom her foster home without
any life skills, plan forhousing or how to obtain food
and health care.
Why, why?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
don't you set them up while you're there?
Well, hold on, we're getting tothe light, we're getting to the
light.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
So the Turpin Children filed lawsuits and ABC
2020 did investigate and, likethey, did their fucking work and
they also and they have aspecial case on this and the
main updates that I have foundthat are that Tyler Perry has
been providing support and carefor the Turpin children.
He's such a beautiful humanbeing oh yeah, and Jennifer was

(52:36):
married last year in Octoberwith all her siblings in
attendance.
Jennifer is on Instagram.
She has written the book.
Where was God?
I'm trying not to break down,so we're tagging Jenny in this.
Yes, and I listened to her bookon audio and she has a website
and I want to order from.
I want to order some of herjewelry.

(52:57):
It's called Dawn's Designsthat's her middle name.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
So we're tagging Dawn's Designs.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yes, so her name is Jennifer Dawn Turpin, and Dawn's
Designs is the name of thewebsite where you can order her
jewelry that she makes and shehas that listed in her bio and
she is also a.
Now she has become aphlebotomist and is a huge
supporter of the LGBTQ community.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Okay, do you think, do you?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
think that's awesome and that wraps up.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
So we're tagging all that, tagging all the cool stuff
so fucking amazing.
I may reach out to Jenniferherself I hate it.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I will tag her website, but I may reach out to
Jennifer personally for herpermission to tag her, because
she may not want to be relived.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
We're tagging her jewelry shit.
I'm going to tag her website,for sure.
We're going to plug your shit.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, relived Right.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Tagging her jewelry.
I'm going to tag her website.
We're going to plug your shit.
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Support, cute little thing,anything else?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Like if, if we get in contact with any any more,
we're going to add, you know, ifthere's any more stuff that we
can add for her, her siblings,anybody else?
That's relative our way.
I want to know, I want to bepart of any support for anything
Like I just felt they need thefucking golden ticket pass in

(54:14):
life from here on, and if we canhelp in any way, hey, there's
your smile, I know.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Well, and just listening to her book I could
just tell what a beautiful humanbeing she is.
Now, she didn't narrate thebook, but I just pictured her.
I looked up her picture and Ijust heard her words and just
knowing what she went through,and I just, you know, I just sat
and listened and just my heartbled.

(54:44):
I mean it just bled, and Iwanted to just find her and hug
her.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah, I've been around a lot of poverty growing
up and noticed a lot of thingsand remember a lot of things and
a lot of things I've shut, shutout of my mind.
You know, and I can pictureevery situation in that room,
except for the tying up andabuse stuff.
I didn't really ever see any ofthat.
No, but the hoardering, thefilth, the squander, the just

(55:15):
nasty ass way of life.
I've seen it a few times and Isympathize with every single
human being in this storyUnfortunately even the parents,
because they're fucking shot out.
Yeah, but I'm glad they're away, I'm glad all this really
happened.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Now I've had a few friends whose parents weren't as
clean as my family was, but Inever seen anything like that
until I remember watching.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
To the extent where you're waiting in their house.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
No, yeah, I remember watching the first episode of
Hoarders and I thought that itwas made up.
Yeah, I was like there's no way, I've seen it.
And I mean I remember that onthat particular episode they
found a flattened out dead catyeah, like in this person's
house under trash and I screamedbecause I was like I've been in
houses where you don't moveshit, you don't move it around,

(56:01):
so horrifically, lindsay, thankyou, and you just kind of
fucking puddled me on this deal.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And thank you, jennifer, for writing your book
and letting us and telling usabout your story, giving us the
opportunity, us podcasters, theworld.
Thank you so much I'm sorryabout your life and I hope it's
the golden ticket from here on.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And for Jordan and Jennifer, who have both been in
the public to tell this story,and Jennifer, who have both been
in the public to tell thisstory, and because,
unfortunately, some of thesiblings they still got the shit
stick after that.
Well, and they also stillsympathize with their parents.
So yeah, yeah, but that's goingto take some growing and

(56:46):
learning and some therapy andall that yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
They'll overcome that Cause.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
you got to understand a lot of these children were
still way under age.
Like I said, they ranged fromJennifer was 29 and the baby was
two.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Anybody that gets in that situation, stay in positive
.
Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
And then you got to think you know, five of them
went to another abusive home.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah, you know, I mean Fucking A, fucking A, it
sucks so bad.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
So bad.
The system failed them.
But thank you, tyler Perry foreverything that you've done and
all the other you know celebrityfigures that have stepped down
I know Oprah had some, yeah.
And thank you, abc for steppingin and doing your investigation
and helping these kids, oh God.
And helping these kids, oh God,because it could have just all
been swept under the rug.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, it could have.
Could have just kept goingdownhill.
I'm glad it came out, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
All right, so let's turn this car around.
And what are you?
What band are we plugging thisweek?
What band have you found for usto listen to?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I've been so geeky.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I know.
Your face just lit up.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
It's been on my heart all week long.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I know and I was looking forward to playing this
band this is how I feel when I'mlike everything's on the tip of
my tongue.
I don't want to spill all thestory to you, but I got to wait.
I got to wait.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Broken Hearts and Nickels.
Broken Hearts and Nickels Isthe name of this group.
Okay, and I believe it's athree-piece group.
I did a little research on itand I'm not completely 100% sure
, but I think this song and alittle bit of another song is
their legacy.
That's it, and I'm saddenedbecause I want so much more

(58:30):
material from this, but I'm notsure, 100% sure.
I think the drummer passed away.
Oh no, yeah, the singer's alittle bit older guy.
The bass player like like allthese guys are from a huge music
background.
Okay, they all have wikis, allof them, and they're just
amazing artists.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
the lyrics in this are they like a mini super group
?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
mini super group I found, and I just it's this
song's to stick in your fuckinghead, okay, and I want to play
it right now, I'm just so.
This song is called little Rayand the hard truth.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Okay.
And little Ray and the hardtruth.
And what's the name of the band?
One more time, broken heartsand nickels.
Broken hearts and nickels.
Love it.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I spend a lot of time trying to keep my hands on the
system.
If I can, let me simplify I'm apoison drinking venom sitting

(59:58):
here.
Well, I'm too far, so I searchfor redemption.
I'm a dashboard, and the onlything that saved me is a memory
of a future I used to be mine.
I walk into the fire, I keep onrunning, I'm always searching.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Show me the light so I can force it and leave it
there for life.
Love me.
Scars and broken hearts.
With nickels I have a thousanddollars In love.
I love you.
No peace for me.

(01:00:43):
Yeah, you're one for the great,and the others on the fly Are
reaching this earth beneath.
I walk into the fire.

(01:01:06):
I keep on going, I'm holdingsearch and you'll be alive so I
can force you To leave here torely.
We'll be right back.
What do you think, lindsay?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I know that voice.
What other band has he been in?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I don't remember.
We need to do.
I need to do a little bit moreresearch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah, because I know that voice.
These guys have been in somebig shit.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
band is that?
Oh my God, I found them.
And he's all like, yeah, man,play our jams, whatever.
And I only found.
And he's all like, yeah, man,play our jams, whatever.
And I only found like two songs.
It's like I wanted so much moreand I did a wiki look on all
three of the members andapparently it said that the
drummer had passed away just afew months ago.
And I'm just like dude, I wantso much more from these guys.
They're so fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
This song just sticks in your soul doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
yes, it was so smooth and, like I said, it's gonna
drive me crazy and you can tellthat he's an older dude but he
has all the lyrics, the bestlyrics that I've heard this year
.
Swear to god.
They're so gripping into mysoul.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I want, want,so much more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Broken what Broken hearts and nickels right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Broken hearts and nickels.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, love them to death man.
So fucking fire dude.
He's just like a fine piecebehind a dashboard at night, you
know, and I'm all like dude,I've been there, I've been there
, just amazing.
So yeah, upon Lindsay'sresearch research, real quick,
we just checked it out.
I think it's posted backwards.
I think it's the band littleray and the hard truth is the

(01:03:26):
band.
So little ray is the singerright yes, that's what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
According to, the song was called broken hearts
and neck, so I was back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yes, love them so much.
I want to get this shit right.
Apologies, all around, fuckingfire ass band, though follow
them.
There are two songs out.
Follow them.
Just just support whatever.
And just you know, hey, amazingproject, perfect lyrics.
It hit my soul, dude, I'm gonnaplay that song for hours when

(01:03:54):
we go up north.
Lindsey, you're gonna hear thatsong 15 times okay I'm driving
yeah heard but yeah that's myrestaurant lingo coming out
there heard.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Isn't it good though?
Yes, I mean like it was sogroovy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yes, and it has an old throwback style, but at the
same time this dude is spittingsome fucking badass shit that's
modern at the same time I'mtelling you I've heard that
voice before.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Like I said, it reminds me of whitey ford, but
I'm telling you I've heard thatvoice somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yes, either way, mr ray, do some more stuff.
I don't know, I don't know whatreally happened there.
I just I did a little bit ofresearch, but I was looking
backwards, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, so I don't understand and that's okay,
cause that's why your wife ishere to investigate.
But on here on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Spotify it was the other way, so but that's fine,
I've done the same shit.
Maybe, maybe it's just how itcame out, but fucking love them.
They're in my fucking soul.
Once you hear it, once you gotto hear it more, right, that's
the kind of music I love to play.
Yes, little Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Yes, lil Ray, and you were already over there
spitting out the verses andstuff and I'm like OK, he
already knows all this jam.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Oh, I've heard this song so much, dude, I love him.
We're going to leave this guywith you and we want you to
check out every band that we'veplayed.
Yes, like, follow, share.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
We got a playlist All of our content.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
We just hooked up with another podcast that we're
going to start sharing a littlebit back and forth.
Actually, I just tagged themand I want to.
I want to keep on building thisthing with you.
This is fun as fuck, I know I'mstarting to get a little
calloused.
I'm not as puddled as as Ishould be right now, but I am
completely.
Is that weird?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
No, well, as I would say, next week we're going to do
another, more popular casebecause it's in the it's in the
it's trending right now.
So I want to go ahead and tellJesse about that one, and you
guys a lot of you will know itIf you don't Great, it'll be
your first time hearing it too.
And then we're going to cover afew.
We're going to be in PrideMonth, so we're going to cover a

(01:05:58):
few cases that happened in theLGBTQ plus community Awesome,
yes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Awesome, awesome.
Join our everything Cause.
This ride at midnight behind adashboard is just so fucking
fire.
Yes, we'll go into the fire.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yes, it's very.
I mean mean, that voice is justlike butter man.
It's butter, butter and there'sa fly buzzing around you that's
pissing me off and y'all.
We do not live in filth, but wedo live in florida and there's
going to be one fly in yourhouse at all times and plants
there was one over there tryingto get me.
He's trying.
It was on your shoulder asecond ago now he's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
he was trying to walk into the fire too Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Anyway, lindsay, walk into the fire and die Fly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Let's do this shit.
Yes, we'll see you guys nextFriday.
Yes, like share, follow, drinkabout something outside.
All that good stuff, send us anemail Tell us the other day it
was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Well, tell us about some things true crime
situations that you've been in.
Or if there's a local band thatyou think that we should seek
out to play on our pod, Tell usabout that too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I'm almost up to 100 bands now.
Lindsay, I know I'm allbacklogged.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I've got 300 cases.
So yeah, you're almost caughtup with me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Finding some cool ones, yeah, but um, we'll see
you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, we can do this for a long time.
We'll see you guys next friday.
Yes, we love you so much.
Bye.