EPISODE 42: Jodi Arias

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Jesse, Hello Lindsay, what are you drinking
today?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm drinking straight up Crown, dude Crown.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Apple Just straight Crown.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I got it on the rocks .

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And that's what I'm doing.
I got that big dick energygoing on right now.
Yeah, what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I got me a Black Cherry Vista Bay.
Vista Bay yeah, they were soldout of Vista Bay at Aldi last
week and it was really sad.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
You're like on that Bambolem, on everything Black
cherry Bambolem, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It just so happens like I just was drinking a lemon
lime earlier, but I got blackcherry right now for the pot,
but I'm almost out of this one,so we'll be on another flavor at
break time.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Another one yes, we're going to turn up y'all.
What are we drinking about?
You always.
You know what are we.
What the fuck are we got goingon?
We're on to some new shit.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
We're drinking about a woman named Jodi Arias.
It's a lady.
It's a lady.
It's a lady.
The latest man.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, okay, okay, you want to hit that intro we're
going to party, gonna party,party, party.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Happy ass friday y'all friday, we're gonna crank
this up, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
That is you like the bumping dude.
It blows up my speakers.
I love it.
You know what's really cool,though?
Like we fired right the fuckinto this because we had a huge,

(01:39):
a fucking huge, the most epicgenzyness drink.
About something, dude.
You puddled all the puddle andI keep saying puddle.
I don't know if this is a coolthing.
It was the most epicness, socheck out the one we did just
before this, on a wednesday yes,our.

(02:02):
Our drunk about something stuff.
The recap of Jonestown wasfucking horrific.
Everything about Jonestown wasfucking horrific.
And Lindsey's on to somethingelse.
We got a lady.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I'm going to talk about a lady, a lady.
But first, jesse, what made youfeel old this week?
I wrote it over there.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So the thing I always put it on our little notes I no
longer worry about the bullshitin society and the trendy
things that are going on.
I look at it, everybody looksat it, right, and I don't give a
fuck about it.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I laugh at it and move on.
I don't give a fuck about it.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I just care about being happy and just moving on.
Does that make me feel old,Like I'm not trendy anymore?
Is that something?
That is a thing, or I?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
don't know.
Yeah, we don't care.
We buy what we like, and that'sit.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
We do what we do.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, we do what we like we don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We're going to do our own thing If we like it, you
know, ha ha, chuckle, chuckle,right, but like other than that,
fuck off yeah the trendiestthing that we own in our house
is our kid has Crocs, we havesome hey dudes and some vans.
That's the trendiest thing Ilove.
Hey, dudes, I'm old.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Hey, dudes are like old man shit.
Not really, because Old peopleneed to know.
They really do, but our heydudes have skulls on them.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I can do a whole ass rockville.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
We got metal ass skulls man A whole ass rockville
.
My feet love me, yes.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
What do you feel all about over there?
You sigh.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You talked about it the other day and I forgot, but
probably this week.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
so at my job we have six air conditioning units to
run our restaurant and two ofthem are out and those are what
powers the kitchen and it's beenhot and it made me angry how
hot I was.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like common human struggles because of a business.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Right and then.
But Thursday night I got reallyoverheated and it started
making my stomach hurt and Ihave never really felt.
And we've been outside atRockville for days in the heat,
not this heat.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
We're in late July.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's May heat, not July heat, right, and it was
different, like it made mystomach hurt, like I got woozy
and I had to go to the freezer.
Then I had to go to thebathroom because I mean,
honestly, not to be reallygraphic, but I'm going to be
graphic.
I didn't know if I had to takea shit or if I had to puke, and
I didn't do either.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just felt horrible does that make you feel old,
being able to say I didn't knowif I had to take a shit or what?
Yeah, it's like younger people,I don't know.
There's a, there's a certaingeneration that don't give a
fuck.
They will say whatever oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, I work around a lot of Gen Z, so yeah I have
learned that well they don'tgive a fuck what they say, and I
don't either.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
yeah, I just noticed that they don't give a fuck what
they say, and I don't eitherJust notice that when we were
watching the fucking unicorn,what was it called?
Death of a Unicorn?
They don't give a fuck, that'sthe Gen Z.
That's the Gen Z.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
They have, and it's not even like a bad thing.
There's just no boundaries andit's cool, Just speak freely.
Well, I mean Speak freely.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
The thing that gets me is they don't shave, they
don't care about what theirclothes look like.
Why did we spend our whole life, Lindsay, trying to be like
looking good?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh my God so when we were growing up and younger
everything— we tried to lookgood.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean, since the dawn of—I don't know what you
want to call it Everything hadto be matching and named brands.
Humans tried to have fashion bematching and named humans.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And then we saw freaking jenna ortega wearing
some raggedy ass adidas pants,which were cool, I would.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I would rock with a little greasy face and her nose
ring and she's all like, lookinglike she just hasn't taken a
shower in like days, like well,I'll say three days, it's
whatever.
It's whatever, it's whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Nobody fuck on Gen Z yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So if you're listening to Gen Z, we love you.
Go take a shower.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Take a shower.
This is a quote from MamaCookie Christine Thornton that I
follow on TikTok.
She says don't let your mentalaffect your dental, brush your
damn teeth.
That part, that's what.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm saying that's what I'm saying, part that's
what I'm saying you can beFrankenstein, you can be
Frankenstein, you can beFrankenstein, you can be
Frankenstein all you want to.
But don't be the smelly kid.
And Adam Sandler has to talkabout it.
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I got the smelly kid in class.
He is by far one of thesmelliest Happy.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Gilmore 2.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Watch it twice.
Watch it two times.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
The second time Was way better Than the first time.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
John Daly and his pants being in that bitch, and
then Eminem.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
The fucking he's like .

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh, the flask.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
He's squirting the fucking, oh the flask.
They're drinking Everything Inevery spot.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So go watch Happy Gilmore 2 and count all the
Different flasks that he has.
He had like the remote, thephone, a cucumber, a banana.
We need to count.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, hit us up on drinkaboutsomethingsite.
We need to count of all All theflasks.
I want to know how many.
Yes, like he's like drinkingout of his phone, and how many
cameos of famous people that yourecognize.
Yeah, let us know the count, soI can I can name.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
All right, so we got john daly, we got eminem, we've
got, uh, rob schneider.
John lovitz, um bad bunny.
Post malone, post malone hayley.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Joe osmond oh my god, that is what I said was going
to make me feel old, that rightthere, I knew I'd hayley joe
osmond with a goddamn beard yousaid that he was gray our whole
life, and then, all of a sudden,you said he was brown, like he
was like.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
he was looking good.
The anchor, no, no, the anchorman, no, hold on, okay, hailey,
I'm on hailey joe osmond hailey.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
He was a child when jesse and I were young adults,
and now he's a grown- man with abeard.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's exactly what I'm saying, Because you were
like he's, like this young grayguy doing the Anchorman shit and
then all of a sudden no that's,stop that's not Haley Jo Osmond
.
Oh, I'm fucking around.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Haley, jo Osmond was the one that had the surgery and
he was playing.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
He had the swing.
That's Haley Jo.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Osmond With Okay so the Anchorman was in other Adam
Sandler movies and he had brownhair and a brown mustache.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But that was the one.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He's the Anchorman in Happy Gilmore 2, and he's got
white hair and a white mustacheand glasses and I'm like, oh my
God.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
But that was the one you said that made you feel old.
But Haley Jo.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Osmond, being a grown-ass man with a beard made
me feel old.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Because he was a child when we were grown adults.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, because it was like a thing.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
And now he's a grown adult and yeah, what did you
call it this morning?
Middle-aged hood.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Middle-aged hood.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I was like you know what it's an okay hood.
It's an okay hood to be in.
Yeah, we're part of the hood,we're yeah gang gang.
Middle-aged hook Gang gang.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, take them up out of ghetto.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So yeah, there's that .
That's what made us feel old itreally did, but the anchorman
was like.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
that was the epitome of what brought on, what made
you feel old, because you werelike.
He was not so great.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And you know what's crazy is?
I don't remember his name as anactor, but he's been in several
other Adam Sandler movies and Ibeen in several other adam
saylor movies and I remember him.
He was a cop in um chuck andlarry, which is one of the adam
saylor movies that I watch a lot.
Yeah, like I love, I know thatone by heart.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So kudos to adam though it's like he's bringing
back all of everybody and theydidn't get paid shit like 500,
like okay I don't care what Igot from what I've seen like
statistically like a thousandbucks was all they really even
wanted, and maybe travelexpenses.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
They were probably just like here I am.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
They were like I'm here to be and fucking Marshall
Mathers show up.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And said Detroit when he's fighting the Gators.
That was amazing.
Throws his ass, Detroit.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's all you get.
You only get like a minute inmy movie.
Everybody was there.
Everybody was there.
It was so epic.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, with all that being said, if you're new here,
what we do is we have a coupleof drinks, we talk about a true
crime case that Jesse, for themost part, has no idea about,
and even if he does know, hedoesn't know the details.
And then, at the end of theepisode, he plugs a band that he
has sought out and gotpermission to play and he is

(10:23):
enjoying that so much aren't you?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
We jammed on the back porch for a couple of hours.
Yeah, we had grandbaby morning.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
My grandbabies, my besties' grandbabies, bubbles,
blow-up pool.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Over the bridge.
We jammed you so much today,absolutely, and all of our bands
.
They're amazing, and thisstraight-ass fucking Crown Apple
on rocks is really.
This is going to be ahootamaroo, lindsay, it's going
to be a hootamaroo.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So, like I said before, we're talking about a
young lady Well, she was a younglady, she's not anymore Named
Jodi Arias, but first we got totalk about a guy named Travis
Alexander.
Oh, so Travis Alexander wasborn July 28th 1977.
I'm a little freaked outbecause when I was researching

(11:14):
this case on the first day Istarted the research guess what
day?
It was July 28th.
Oh, isn't that weird.
Yeah, fucking Alexander, yeah,well, anyway.
So Travis, he was one of eightchildren born eight, let's put
that in your mind Eight Eightchildren, yeah, born to Gary and
Pamela Alexander in Riverside,california, and at the age of

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eight he and his siblings had tobe taken in by Gary's mother,
travis's grandmother, becauseGary and Pamela, they weren't
really good parents.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You pick on California a lot, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, we're going to be between California and
Arizona in this one, okay, okay.
So Gary and Pamela, they weremeth addicts and they were
abusive and they lived inabsolute squalor Like Travis,
like he grew up with bugseverywhere and developed this
horrible phobia of roaches.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
That part.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I didn't grow up in bugs and I have a horrible
phobia of roaches because Ilived in the country and it's
Florida.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
We're in Florida.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And you would get one every now and then in the
bathroom.
It'd be like smiling at youwhen you try to get a shower.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
We call them palmetto bugs because of the big roaches
and they crawl in.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You get the small ones you call the exterminator.
Yeah, yeah, big ones are normalSmall ones call pest control
ASAP.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So the ones that you can hit with a fucking hockey
puck.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Baseball bat yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You can happy, Gilmore them bitches.
Yeah, those are the ones.
Those are natural in Florida.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, they just show up, you can't help it.
They're just like hey, we'rehere, you can spray them with
all the killer.
And they just laugh, they do adance.
Yeah, they give you theMacarena.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, I mean, I did one one time and it gave me a
whole Cheech and Chong song.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It was like Mexican-Americans don't like to
get they like flowers and moviesoh my god, we gotta watch my
girl's name gabby too.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, I love them, dude.
I love them like they're.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
They don't creep me out like you, you squeal, it's
so cute because we do have a uh,an every three month
exterminator to keep any kind ofbug out of this house.
Because, fuck, no, um, but butwe still will get them in our
garage.
Um, because it's florida, itjust happens.
I'm sorry.

(13:32):
It doesn't matter how clean youare, how much you exterminate,
they show up in your garage andI do.
You go out there to change outyour laundry at like 10 o'clock
at night.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
One runs and I scream crawls across your foot, and
then I'm like yeah, well, wedon't live in squalor, but we
can't avoid florida roaches.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
that's my fake laugh.
Now, despite travis's traumaticchildhood or maybe in spite of
Travis would grow up to bepretty successful he would end
up living in Nasa, arizona,where a lot of Mormons resided,
and he vowed to keep sex undercontrol until he would meet a

(14:18):
nice Mormon lady.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Is this a religious thing again?
A little bit, not a lot, butjust let me get there, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
So he really wasn't good at hanging on to that
commitment, even though he had areligious thing again A little
bit, not a lot, but just let meget there, okay.
So he really wasn't good athanging on to that commitment,
even though he had a whole ring.
This ring had CTR on it, whichmeant choose the right, okay,
which was supposed to keep youlike, celibate and true to
yourself till you found yourpermanent partner Right, your
spouse Right.
So you found your permanentpartner, your spouse.

(14:45):
Right right, he became involvedin a MLM, which was a
multi-level marketing scheme.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh, Pyramid Thing.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Pyramid Thing called Prepaid Legal, and he rose to
the top pretty quickly and hestill was very religious, very
devout Mormon.
That was influenced by hisgrandmother, by the way.
They ended up taking him in andhe even became a comedian with
the stage name Eddie Snell.

(15:16):
So PPL was a legal insurancethat you could sell and make
commission, and then you wouldsign up other sellers and make a
portion of their commission.
So yes, it's a pyramid, it's apyramid.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
So he's kind of a goofy guy, mm-hmm, and he's part
of a pyramid scheme.
Yes, with a little bit ofreligion.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
The religion actually plays a big part in this.
Oh, but it doesn't all at thesame time.
We'll talk about that more aswe go through.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Honestly, like we've been hacking on the religion
thing Not really hacking, butit's just a staple for a lot of
true crime.
Yes, it is.
You keep bringing all thesestories to me.
I have no fucking clue.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Isn't it wild how much religion ties in.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's what you .
I'm wide eyed right now.
I'm wide eyed because you keepfucking throwing things that are
horrific, that have to do withreligion.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, what's wild is because, I told you, I have
about three years worth of casessaved and at least 15 of those
are Mormon-based.
So yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Just 15 more Mormon that I can think of off the top
of my head.
Yeah, but 99% are religious.
I feel like you keep throwing.
Why is this a staple for truecrime?
Is it really?
Is it really?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
a thing it's a lot, it's a lot, it's like everybody
keeps using religion for truecrime.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Is this like if you don't want to be part of this
statistic?
You don't want to be part ofthis statistic.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
You don't want to be part of religion.
You know, one of the peopleinvolved just happened to be a
devout Mormon, not that I'mtrying to shit on religion.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Believe what you believe.
You know what I'm saying.
Do what you do, right.
But this has been a thing since.
Okay, we're up to like likewhat is this 40 or this is 42,
right, 42?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
yeah, that's what we have in 42, 43 somewhere in
there.
Yeah, there's like religion hasbeen a big thing yeah, pay
attention like.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's why I like spiritualism, that's why I like
it, because it's just like youcan have a connection, have your
own connection.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
But you're not really following any rules.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, have your own connection.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
And what makes in my own opinion, what makes the
religious activity or religiousbasis in a true crime story
makes it more hypocritical,Because we were raised to feel
like that.
People in any kind of Christianreligion, followers of Christ

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period.
They're supposed to be theseperfect people because they
don't drink, they don't cuss.
I mean, Mormons weren't evenallowed to drink caffeine.
You know what I mean?
They weren't even allowed tohave coffee.
But they all follow the samekind of trend, but they still
have all these dirty littlesecrets, so why even be a part
of this religion if you're justgoing to break the rules that
you're supposed to follow anyway?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right.
The trend of what they want youto be has nothing to do with
what it was written.
They twist it to make youbelieve that.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
And how many pedophile cases are involved in
religion?
Oh, so many.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Way up there.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and they're all religious and those will be few
and far between for me, becauseit's really hard for me to talk
about kid cases.
Yeah, you don't want to fuckwith a kid, Like last week with
yeah, we'll talk about that morein the recap, but the whole Jim
Jones death tapes, holy fuckingshit Like God damn.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, we did talk about all that in that recap.
I mean, it was just so horrific.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Check out the recap.
Just go back and check that out, gosh.
So in September 2006, travismeets a young woman by the name
of Jodi Arias at a PPLconference in Vegas.
Jodi Arias was born July 9th1980.
They're both July kids ToWilliam and Sandra Aririas in
salinas, california I guessthat's how you say that and jody

(19:10):
.
She grew up in a cul-de-sacneighborhood and had a pretty
good childhood, but she became arebellious teen.
She grew some marijuana on therooftop in some tupperware some
tupperware bins when she was 12.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, oh what?
Yeah, Wait a minute.
I'm trying to like plug in hereof the devil's lettuce and
you're like 12?
.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
When she was 12.
Fuck's sake, lindsay, that'swhen you're older than our
youngest child, not even a wholeyear younger or older
California yeah.
What?
And she would also threatensuicide when she wouldn't get
her way.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Them kids getting high as fuck at 12 over here in
California.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, she was just growing it.
I don't know if she was smokingit.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
She fucking growing it, yo, she growing it, she got
it.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I think you missed my last tagline there.
She would threaten suicide whenshe wouldn't get her way,
really, all the time.
I did miss that, yes, what?
So?
Her parents got so sick of herby the time she was a junior in
high school that they ended upletting her drop out of school
and move in with her boyfriend.
They were just done, you got mekicked around sideways.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Now I know Because when you got me kicked around
over here sideways, I'm lookingat the plant.
I'm not even laughing at theplant.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
The plant is his solace.
Over there, it's my spiritanimal.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It is but like already 12 and suicide.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And then she moves out.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
And religion, yeah, and she Hold on Give me a second
.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
He and the as a junior in high school, she drops
out and moves in with herboyfriend.
Okay, yeah, her parents aredone.
Okay, and she, like when shehad grown the marijuana, like
her parents called the cops onher.
Oh, they were.
And she never really trustedthem again.
Like after that, she neverconfided in them with or

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confided in them about anythingpersonal going on in her life.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I mean, I think you were doing some dirt.
I mean they were trying to dosomething good and you're doing
some dirt.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Well, that boyfriend would be short-lived and she
would still bounce around a fewother boyfriends.
She did some photography workand then she met an older man
who owned a resort in the bigsir area and I looked that up.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I love the big sir, beautiful, holy shit.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm bumping you right now, big sir, and that's jimsy,
remember I told you after Iwatched the show um big little
lies that that they lived inmonterey, california, and I was
like I really want to go thereso listen here, y'all and that's
around that area does not fly.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't like it.
I have flown.
Take us to Big Sur, okay, shewill fly.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
She will fly.
I do want to go to Monterey.
I want to see Big Sur.
She will fly to Big Sur.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And I want to see the Redwoods and I want to see all
of that.
Oh my, keep going, though Idon't want to keep fucking with
you.
I just want to plug in that.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, this guy he was middle-aged, he was our age and
she's like 20, maybe and he wasan alcoholic divorcee named
Daryl and Jody was so obsessedwith becoming like his ex-wife
that she would dye her hair likeher, she got breast implants
like her I'm sure that was paidfor by Daryl and would even buy

(22:27):
the same car as daryl's ex-wife,so it's forming a fatal
attraction, right well, do Ifeel like it?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
not with daryl, not with daryl.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, okay, okay okay , and jody, she already started
showing some kyle type behaviors, like like punching drywall and
shit, and she would kick thingsand throw temper tantrums.
And with each relationship, shewould also change her whole
identity to please whoever shewas dating at the time, to make

(22:59):
sure she was exactly what theywanted her to be.
Well, in 2006, jodi was workingat a pizza place and her
manager showed her apresentation on PPL and she was
like here, take my money it waslike a $250 buy-in and to become
part of the PPL team and thenyou work on your pyramid scheme

(23:22):
after that.
And then she ended up at thesame conference as Travis
Alexander in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's fucking Alexander, I knew it was coming
with the fucking whole pyramidthing.
I was nailing it.
Hey, lindsay, I just wanted tosay your hair looks so amazing
right now.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I don't know what the fuck you put in that, but it
looks so good, so I dye my hair.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I'm the crown.
The crown of my hair is purple,the rest is black.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh, my god, it's so good in the light right now in
our little nook in our kitchen.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It looks so good so I use, I use a full dye once a
month and then I use theconditioner dye once a week.
Yeah, and that keeps it shinyand healthy.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And I take my vitamins, you know as far back
as I can remember as far as ourrelationship goes, you have
these little Jewish curls oneach side and I love it.
And you keep playing with them.
You keep playing with themwhile you're talking.
I don't know why, but you keepplaying with them oh speaking of
Jewish, so my entire life, myentire life.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I mean like, since I can remember, I have been asked
if I was Mexican, italian,puerto Rican, cuban, what's the
other one?
I said Spanish, native,american Native.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
American With me.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Mixed.
Depending on what time of yearit is how tan I am.
I have actually been asked if Iwas mixed.
And then Wednesday, when Silaswere at my Wednesday eating
place getting my salad bar thatI love so much.
I look forward to it I gotasked if I was Jewish.
That was the first their firstJewish.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That was the first time I was asked if I was Jewish
, they were naturally going tothe Middle East and looking at
real Jewish people.
Because you have you rememberthat time we went to Miamiami
and and everybody was like youdon't speak spanish.
And I was like, yeah, I'm sucha disappointment.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's like like when some of my guests come in.
Well, when some of my guestscome in and that they are, you
know, they do speak spanish andthey try and start talking to me
.
Because I have that, look, I'ma complete disappointment,
because I only know poquito.
I, I know, I know I can figureout words.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I can help them ordering.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I can help them order their food because I know
enough and I can figure wordsout and make a sentence, but I
don't speak it.
I'm sorry, I should get Babbelno yeah, and learn how to speak
it.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I feel like you should learn enough, because you
really look like you shouldknow it.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I do.
It's such a disappointment,right, I do.
I look like I should know it, Ithink you look kind of.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
you got a kind of Puerto Rican with that hair, A
little Puerto Rican over therewith your hair.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, my birth mother grew up in Miami, so even my
father thought that she wasCuban, because, you know, miami
has a lot of Cubans.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I love a beautiful ass, dark, complected woman, and
you are exactly what I love,lindsay.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Thank you, thank you.
Our kids have great skinbecause of it.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
That's for sure, so great.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
But unfortunately, how many percent was I Like 68%
Great Britain and the rest wasall Western European.
I think they're fucking lying.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Or Eastern Eastern, I'm Eastern European they're
fucking lying.
Either way, they're fuckinglying why do I oh?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
and uh like huey huey he thinks that he's like you've
got to be, uh, armenian, you'vegot to be gypsy.
There's some gypsy in theresomewhere, but I'm not and it's.
It was kind of disappointing toget back my dna results and I
was just summer.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
While I'm looking at you and your summer ass glow
over here, so so summer, soamazing look at you glowing.
Thank you, thank you, but let'sget back to Jodi.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Go ahead.
I just wanted to point that out.
Your hair.
But when you said the Jewish.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I had to give that story because, that was.
That was my first time I wasasked if I was actually asked,
if I was.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Jewish.
I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I am a little Travis have met at Rainforest Cafe,
which I really want to go to,one of those.
I know it's cheesy, I know it'scorporate, but the theme is
cute.
We do walk by it every time wego to House of Blues in Disney
Springs.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
The.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Rainforest Cafe.
It's got the volcano, it's gotthe mist, it's got the parrots.
Let's do it.
Let Carrots.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Let's do it.
Let's do it once.
Yeah, Disney Springs we have.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, we don't, no, never mind.
I was going to say we're goingto Universal soon.
We're going to Universal yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Which is Islands of Adventure, and we're going to
how.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
We're going to Margaritaville for that.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Margaritaville.
We're going to.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Margaritaville.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Ginger and Trivium.
I love Ginger, yes, and Trivium.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I've got on a Ginger shirt right now, yay.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
And I'm over here looking like I'm on vacation,
but you got your Ginger shirt on.
You look so fucking good,lindsay, I swear.
Thank you boo-boo, why do youcut my shirts up to make it look
like that?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Cut my shirts into pieces.
Yes, this is my last resort.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I need to send Pictures to everybody that
listens of Lindsay's amazingoutfits.
They're so good.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Thank you.
Yeah, this is literally just ashirt that I just put some slits
in on the sleeves, so good,well, anyway, how about you?
So, travis and Jodi, they havethis little meet, cute.
The attraction was immediate,and Travis even asked Jodi the
same weekend to attend the PPLBlack and Gold Party as his

(28:27):
guest of honor.
And this was high.
This was a high honor.
Okay, because this was only forthe ones at the top of the
pyramid.
Okay, jodi's at the bottom.
She's paid her $250.
Right, but she ain't really gotno people under her.
And Travis, he's at the top ofthe pyramid.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh, he's working his way up.
He's worked his way up, he'ssuccessful Right.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Now Jody was still technically with Daryl, but that
wasn't really going anywhere.
Like she was young, she wanteda family with kids and he was in
his 40s and she was probablyjust his midlife crisis.
She wanted to climb up theladder.
Well, but at the same timeDaryl's in his 40s.
He owns a resort.
That's a fucking ladder rightthere.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, she's looking up the ladder, but he doesn't
want to start a family.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
He already had grown kids.
Oh, so she wants a family.
Daryl's old.
Well, he's not old, he's ourage.
We're old, but she wants ayoung person that she can have a
family with what makes you feelold every week?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, we're old, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Now Travis told her right away that he's Mormon and
he's looking for a good Mormongirl.
And Jodi, she was all abouttransparency.
I mean, she was ready to adaptfor this.
I guess you could say he was.
You know, he was cute.
I guess I saw pictures of him.
He's not my type by any means,but you know, you know, kind of

(29:49):
cute guy.
He wasn't all that, but he wassuccessful and he was at the top
of his game Doing his thing.
Yeah, after they have, you know, they spend the weekend
together and Travis invites herto church.
He gives her the Book of Mormonand all the things.
They also start doing sexualthings together, but not actual

(30:09):
sex.
They're like having oralpresentations and some kind of
this grinding thing and someanal, but not actual penis and
vagina sex.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, so I'm going to do this.
The badge wasn't allowed.
What, what in the butt?
What, what in the butt.
It don't count, yeah, what areligion.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Ah, and they live a pretty good distance away from
each other.
She's in California, he's inArizona.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
So they start meeting at one of Travis's friend's
house, who was Chris and SkyHughes, and this was like a
halfway point for them both.
But they had to sleep inseparate rooms because you know
Mormonism, but Travis wasdefinitely sneaking into where
Jodi was sleeping so they coulddo the things.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
So was she like raising Arizona?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh my God, stop it.
So when they couldn't meet atthe Hughes, they would go to
hotels.
They would read the Book ofMormon together.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
And have some anal fucking sex.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Exactly and call it like religious Right.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
They were doing Godly anal sex.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yes, but Jodi, she fell head over heels in love.
Oh, but Travis mainly justthought of her as a sex friend,
because you know they hadalready crossed that line, they
had already done the sexualthing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And he's good with just meeting and hooking up.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, she's just so they were just like you know,
fuck buddies.
It's a thing, but it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
We can bang in the butthole and it'll be great.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So Jodi's like oh my God, I gotta do the next step to
keep this man I gotta.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
She's trying to clamp on.
She's going to embrace thewhole religion.
She's in love, she's in loveand the pyramid and he's up on
the fucking high rung andeverything but at the same time
listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, she already had a man with a very good income.
He owned a resort at the BigSur, okay, so his successfulness
is not her thing.
She wants to be with a manthat's going to give, that's
going to be her husband and giveher a family.
The money was a bonus.
Yeah, for Jodi.

(32:21):
Right, right, right andabsolutely they had the wildest
sexual chemistry.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Brigity brick.
Brigity brick.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Brigity, brick, brick , brick and Travis was like all
right girl convert, Come on over, I'll even be the one to
baptize you.
And that happened in Novemberof 2006.
They meet in September.
Fuck buddies right away.
He converts her to Mormonism byNovember of the same year by
the religion.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
They weren't really fuck buddies because he didn't
vaginally infiltrate.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
They were doing sexual activity period.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean, come on, but it doesn't count in that
religion.
As long as you're banging inthe butthole, it doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So now Jodi is, she's a whole ass.
Mormon, okay, okay, and youknow what, Listen up.
Mormon, okay, okay, and youknow what, listen up.
As soon as the baptismcommenced, so did full-on hoo-ha
and wanker sex.
He got the hoo-ha finally,exactly like literally, it was
like hours later oh yeah, I bethe couldn't wait.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
He dude, he has been looking at that, but they still
weren't married.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
So, oh, all he did was baptize her into mormonism.
He's got her converted, oh yes,she's now a mormon.
He has been looking at thatthing forever, but they still
weren't married.
Oh, all he did was baptize herinto Mormonism.
He's got her converted, oh yeah, so she's now a Mormon, and
they do the whole.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think you have broke so many fucking rules in
your religion to begin with, andthey're not even in a
relationship?
They're not even.
They're just hanging andbanging.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I mean, now she's a full-blown fuck buddy just
because, and now he's like Ican't marry her what she's dirty
, she's tainted, lindsey, butjody feels, jody feels she's got
him now.
Okay, she's got him, she's got.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh, this is gonna be fucking oh, I'm turning, yeah,
I'm turning, I'm turning towardthe plant.
So the next month?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
okay, so we get, we convert into Mormonism.
In the next month, travis hostsa PPL party at his house and
Jodi comes too.
But Travis is like you can'tstay here with me because we're
Mormons and we don't do that.
I mean I do that, but we as awhole, in front of everyone, we
don't do that.
I mean I do that, but we as awhole, in front of everyone, we

(34:35):
don't do that.
Okay, so Jodi's like whatever,I'm going to ignore all of that
and she tells everyone that theyare boyfriend and girlfriend,
and then Travis is literallylike behind her, being like no,
no.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
We're just dating.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
We're just dating.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
She's coming from and we're just dating casually
California to Arizona tointermingle with a human being
and changing her whole life forone person and he just dispels
every bit of it.
He's just like you don'tfucking count.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You will.
He will go on to say basicallythat she's his dirty little
secret.
But it's not cool, no, it's not.
But then Jodi starts gettingcrazy.
Okay, like completely sober,she falls asleep under his
Christmas tree Like there's nodrinking at this party and she's
just like I'm going to pass outunder your Christmas tree so I

(35:27):
can stay here with you, travis.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So don't have an infatuation with a human being
if you're not stable.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
She has put everything.
Let me get.
I got a lot of her life.
I'm sorry, just because it'sgonna get.
I can see way more crazy.
I can see it, I can see it, it'sgonna be fucking nasty right,
and friends of travis wouldlater say that she, she became
very clingy.
She was hanging all over him,sitting in his lap, waiting for
him outside of the bathroomwhile he would do his business.

(35:58):
Yeah, she's just sitting therewhile he's pooping, and she was
all about the PDA.
She was like this is my man andhe was like girl, chill yeah
you want assurance of stability.
But he was undoubtedly addictedto the poon.
But he's like we're nottogether, but I want your badge

(36:20):
at my beck and call.
She's like I'm in love and I'mgonna cling and hang all over
you.
He's like girl, chill, we'rejust doing the sex.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yes, right, follow along.
Are you here with me?
I am completely following.
You're not.
Well, I didn't know if therewas other ones.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I haven't talked about that yet, so have you read
my notes?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, I don't read your notes, all right.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
So let me get there.
Okay, now, when she wasn'thanging all over him, she would
try and make him jealous bygoing on dates with other men in
the pyramid, yeah.
And then one day at the Hughes,skye caught her more than once
listening in on theirconversations and that was like

(37:07):
the last time that Jodi wasallowed there.
Okay, so like Skye and Chriswere telling Travis hey look,
jodi is kind of stalkerish,she's real clingy, she's not
really a good Mormon girl andhonestly, her behavior is insane
and I wouldn't be surprised ifyou end up dismembered in her
fridge one day.
And then Skye heard someoneoutside of the door.
Travis went and took a look and, peekaboo, there's Jody

(37:31):
listening on their wholeconversation.
So it's creepy, okay.
And then jody would go throughtravis's myspace account and saw
that he had been talking toanother married woman, a married
mormon woman so that's what Iwas talking about, but you
didn't know.
Well, I didn't know.
You gotta let me tell my story.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I'm allowed to give my whole perspective, but I
hadn't even went there.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
So how are you even saying that I said he was
addicted to Jodi's poon?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I get it, and he was.
I get it, yes, but he was alsolike moving.
I just seen it.
He's addicted to Jodi down into, like this is my backstory of

(38:18):
what I'm hearing already, beforeyou even tell what you've wrote
on your Don't read my notes.
I don't read your notes,lindsay, but I can call it
before it happens.
Sometimes I can't help itbecause you got me in, so much
of this podcast.
It is the age old story.
Well, yes, the age.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And I the age old story.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, yes, and I knew it was coming.
So I knew he was coming.
I knew it was.
You know what?
What in the?
I'm taking a drink in the butt.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Well, that behavior didn't scare Travis off too much
because then after that, theybecame exclusive and started
traveling together and they usethis book called A Thousand
Places to See Before you Die asa guidebook.
They were just like there'spictures all over the place of
everywhere that they went andthey're beautiful pictures.

(39:03):
They did the thing.
They was traveling because theywould start meeting up on the
weekends together and would godo things in this book, because
they were no longer allowed atSkye and Chris's house because
Sk, sky and Chris were like thisbitch crazy, okay.
Okay, like I said, they'restill living in separate states
and they did end up breaking up,so they're exclusive February

(39:25):
2007.
They break up just a little bitlater and some sources say that
it was Travis that he brokewith her, but some say that it
was J that he broke with her,but some say that it was Jodi,
because she found out that hewas still texting other women
and decided you know what?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't really think that you're ready so she was
infatuated, but like kind ofplayed on both sides and then so
they did break up and they bothstart seeing other people.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Now Travis, he has this nice house in Mesa and he
was paying for this on his own.
But in 2008, when the recessionhappened, he did have to get a
couple of roommates.
Okay, so the roommates wouldsay that Jodi, even after
they've been broken up, wouldtravel the 300 miles from where

(40:11):
she lived to come see Travis.
She would crawl through thedoggy door unannounced and get
in bed with Travis and theywould definitely have the sexy
time.
Okay, like Travis would be likebitch what you doing here, but
still welcome.
I'm a dick.
Yeah, yeah, oh my fuck.
I'm a dick.
Yeah, yeah, oh my fuck.
Then, after they are broken up,jodi decides now is the time

(40:37):
that I'm going to move to Mesa,arizona, four miles down the
road from Travis.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
This isn't going to work, this isn't going to be
good, this is not going to be.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I just Now she even had.
Now there's two sources thatsay two different things.
Now one source will say thatshe had a t-shirt made that said
Travis Alexander's, like shewas his property, and then
another source would say thatTravis had that shirt made and
would require her to wear it,but no it's not her, it's her, I

(41:09):
swear.
Yeah, and in one source I heardthat she wasn't making enough
money after she had, you know,come to Mesa to basically stalk
him.
So Travis hired her to cleanhis house while wearing a sexy
maid's outfit, all while he'sseeing a new girl named Lisa.

(41:30):
Now Lisa, she would startgetting prank calls, she would
get ding-dong ditches at thedoor.
She would even have her tiresslashed as well, as Travis also
got his tires slashed.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Oh, there's somebody else looking Uh-huh Like
somebody else in the middle.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Let me tell the story .
Okay, it's also said that Jodiwas seen outside Travis's window
while Lisa and Travis weremaking out on the couch.
Ew, but Travis was to blamehere too, as he was still sexing
Jodi and still calling her forphone sex well before she moved

(42:15):
right down the road from him.
Okay, so still a lot of sexting, and sexting is still going on.
And then there's a lot offighting between a couple who is
supposedly broken up Okay, andthey were.
They're both seeing otherpeople, but Jody was obviously
still very emotionally attachedand even wrote in her journal

(42:36):
that she would kill herself ifthings didn't work out between
them and Lisa and Travis.
They did not work out becausehe is still talking about Jody
all the time and Jody isliterally harassing them both
and he's definitely I mean, likeI said, he's still stuck on her
, he's still reaching out to heras much as she's reaching out

(42:57):
to him.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
It's a lot of sex and religion and turmoil.
Yeah, All tied into all that.
That's what I've been like.
Fuck, there's something elsefixing to just blow the fuck up
and I'm waiting for you to dothat.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Well, and it said too that so he would wear that ctr
ring, that the choose the rightright, but when he would go to
sex, jody, he would take it offlike it was his own little but
let me take this off.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
It's like you got to set this off and I'm getting
some anal no, they're doing allthe things well, well, they're
full on.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
That just now entered the chat.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, okay.
She's devoted and fullyinvolved in him.
And now tires are gettingslashed.
What the fuck, lindsay?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well, jodi, she then starts going through Travis's
stuff, and when he's not home,she's crawling through that
doggy door and she's rearrangingthings to make it look like
somebody had broken.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Fucking doggy door and she's rearranging things to
make it look like somebody hadbroken fucking doggy door.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, he had a little .
She's only like 110 pounds,remember that.
But you're crawling through adoggy door to come get a fucking
hookup but she's also doing itto look like he's getting robbed
now, yeah, or or thatsomebody's coming in to fuck
with him Like he would come home.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
She was coming in to fuck with him All his shit's
rearranged Right.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
So now Travis starts seeing a woman named Mimi who
thinks, okay, this is the girl,this is the one that's going to
be a good Mormon girl.
But Mimi, she actually onlythinks of Travis mostly as a
friend.
And Travis even starts thisblog where he would talk about
being a better person andfocusing more on his faith and

(44:37):
trying to find the woman he wasgoing to marry.
And then, a couple of weekslater, jodi, she also starts a
blog as well, saying some of thesame shit Travis would say.
And at this point she has nowmoved back to California.
She's not, she's not down theroad in Mesa, she's back in
California and is living withher grandparents.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, Right, I think they call it Mesa.
Is it Mesa?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mesa, it is Mesa.
You're right, I think it's Mesa.
California Mesa, it is MesaArizona.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Mesa Arizona.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
She's back in California.
Travis lives in Mesa Right Isthere Mesa.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So then there was plans of a PPL trip to Cancun.
Now Travis, he had alreadyasked Jodi if she would go with
him, but with their status beingbroken up and her being a crazy
bitch, he decided to ask Mimito go instead, hoping that he
could cross the line from beingin the friend zone to boyfriend

(45:36):
with Mimi.
Okay, but he didn't tell Jodythis.
He tells Jody that he's goingalone, but still they are sexing
.
They are sexting, they arehaving phone sex and Jody even
records one of their phone sexsessions.
But Travis, he's unaware.
I think he's unaware, at leastbecause we're going to get there

(45:58):
.
So he's doing all the dirt.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
He is dirty with Jodi and he's trying to be a good
boy good Mormon boy with Mimiokay, you're not a good Mormon
boy, you're not.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Religion.
Here we go.
A good Mormon boy, you're notReligion.
Here we go Now, in late May2008, he writes a blog entry
about why.
It's literally titled why IWant to Marry a Gold Digger,
where he talks about howeveryone around him is married
and he's almost 30, and how hisgrandmother actually received

(46:32):
her title of being a grandmotherat 35.
And here he was still unmarried.
He explains that he needed toadjust his priorities and that
he was just tired of going ondates where he was, you know,
wondering if that person may bean axe murderer and that person
may be wondering the same thingof him and that he wants to

(46:54):
marry a person that isabsolutely nothing like Jodi,
and she reads his blogreligiously and I'm going to
bring this up again laterbecause I did read this entire
blog entry and it's long and Iread some of the comments under
it as well.
It's out there on Reddit.
You guys can find it.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Holy shit, Because this is like he's putting it out
there.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Oh yeah, Because blogs were huge in 2008.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I remember reading people's blogs all the time
You're putting a horrific thingthat's going to.
I mean, he's just like talkingabout murder and talking about
all these crazy shit.
That's just no.
You're not following again.
You're not following again.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
He's saying that he's tired of going on dates with
people that could possibly be anaxe murderer, and that person
could be thinking the same thingof him.
That's what.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I'm talking about.
He's putting murder in hissituations.
He's going on dates with people.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, because it is a thing where it's not great to
talk about such a thing.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
So you're bringing up things, you're putting power
into something that shouldn'texist.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, you're also going on dates with strangers
who could be a murderer RightPeriod.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Right, you're like I'm not, butI'm saying don't put this in,
put these into words, becausethis is a topic that you're
bringing up.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
So Jodi sees that she's no longer, that her and
Travis are no longer going towork things out.
So she plans on meeting up withher current boyfriend, Ryan
Burns, at a PPL conference inUtah which was to be held on
June 4th.
She goes to see Daryl for somereason they still talking before

(48:43):
she makes this long road tripto Salt Lake City and asked for
some cans of gas for her carbecause gas was cheaper in
California and she didn't reallywant to have to stop along the
way to Utah.
Okay, you listening.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Paying attention Long ass way between there and there
.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, and this is only three, five gallon cans,
just remember that.
So she calls Travis a couple oftimes and leaves some
voicemails on the way aboutmaking plans at a later date for
some Shakespeare in the parktype event and says some other
things, and she tells him thatshe accidentally drove a hundred

(49:23):
miles in the wrong directionand she is supposed to be in
Salt Lake City by the fourth butshe doesn't get there to meet
Ryan Burns until the 5th.
And she also shows up as abrunette instead of a blonde.
Okay, so a few days later, mimi, over in Mesa, arizona, she and

(49:47):
Travis are getting ready tohead to Cancun, but Mimi can't
get a hold of Travis and they'resupposed to leave the next day.
So Mimi calls up a couple ofTravis's friends and was like
hey, have you heard from Travis?
And they said no, we haven't,and we're actually concerned as

(50:09):
well.
And they decide to go to hishouse to check on him.
They go and they ring thedoorbell and they ring it over
and over again.
They're knocking, they're doingall the things and this takes
like they're like doing this forlike 30 minutes.
Okay, and then one of thefriends that was in the group to
go check on him, remembered thegarage code.

(50:30):
So they go in to see if youknow, to see if they can find
Travis.
And they see that Travis's caris in the garage and his keys
are on the table and so is theCTR ring.
So they go to Travis's bedroomdoor but it's locked.
And then one of the roommatescomes out of his room after they

(50:52):
had been knocking and ringingthe doorbell for 30 minutes, 30
to 45 minutes, ok.
And he's just like, hey, Ithink Travis is already in
Cancun.
But Mimi is like no, that's whyI'm here, we're supposed to
leave tomorrow.
So the roommate is like, ohshit, ok, so I have a key to

(51:13):
Travis's room for emergencies.
Let's go in.
Let's go see what's going on.
So when the doors opened, thesmell of decomposition hits them
like a ton of bricks.
Lindsay and Mimi said I'm notgoing in.
So the other friends walk inand find Travis's dead body in

(51:35):
the shower and blood iseverywhere.
I looked up the crime scene.
It's horrific.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
You just hit me.
I know, you just fucking hit me, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Travis had been stabbed 27 times.
Travis had been stabbed 27times.
His throat was slit from ear toear, almost causing
decapitation, and had one singlegunshot to the head.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
So a gun and a bunch of fucking stabbings.
Yes, a knife and a gun wasinvolved in this.
Nobody knew a fucking thing.
No, you got people hanging outin the fucking same area.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You got a roommate in the same house.
That had no clue yeah, nobodyknew fucking shit come on.
So police was called and whenthey were asked when the when
the heat, when the police askedthe friends who might have done
this, they all, literallyunanimously, said jody, really,

(52:31):
so travis's body had beendiscovered on the 9th and on the
13th news had traveled and Jodydecides she was going to call
the police herself and see ifthere was anything she could do
to help.
You know, I know him, we'refriends.
What can I do to help?
And she calls more than once?

(52:52):
Sounds a little suspicious.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
We're friends.
What can I do to help?
And she calls more than once.
Sounds a little suspicious, alittle suspicious.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
So she talks to Esteban Flores, who is a
detective, and said you know,his tires have been slashed and
somebody had been breaking intohis room and rearranging his
things and taking stuff.
I really think someone might beafter him.
This was all shit she had done.
Everything she's telling thepolice was all things she had

(53:20):
physically done herself.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's the plot that I was trying to fold into, and
it was just like tire slash,shit's going on.
Who the fuck Right?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Oh, I thought it made it clear that Jodi had done
that.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, I didn't know like you'rebuilding your story no jody was
crazy bitch.
I'm just taking parts andpieces over here lindsey jody's
crazy bitch okay well, fuck,yeah, I mean, she's fully
infatuated with this dude.
That don't really give a fuck.
She just, he just wants to fuck, and then now he's fucked right
.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So little did she know that she was actually the
main suspect and all theevidence was definitely pointing
to her.
They had found her hair, theyhad found a bloody thumbprint
and a palm print, and in thewashing machine with some towels
was a camera and the camera wasruined.

(54:12):
But the SD card was not and thedetectives were waiting for the
content on that SD card to comeback.
And when those pictures weredeveloped they pretty much told
the story and all of them weretimestamped for June 4th.
Let me remind you that Travis'sbody wasn't found until June
9th.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
And he had done decompt.
Yeah, so here is what reallyhappened.
Here we go.
So Jodi was to meet up with herboyfriend, ryan Burns, in Salt
Lake City.
That was planned out and shewas supposed to be there on the
4th, but she doesn't get thereto the 5th, so she leaves
California with her gas cans,she heads to Mesa, arizona,

(54:54):
instead, and now she has calledTravis and he knew that she was
coming.
So she gets there and they havea lot of sex.
Like she got there like reallyearly in the morning, she takes
a nap, she wakes up around 1 aor 1 PM.
They have a lot of and theytake pictures of all of it.
There are nude pictures of Jodi, nude pictures of Travis, then

(55:16):
pictures of Jodi's butt, cheeksspread apart like Mike Honcho,
michael Honcho.
And then they take it to thebathroom so they could add some
water into the sexypicture-taking.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Take it to the chorus .

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Then there's a picture of Travis looking at the
camera with water running downand he looks like he is
witnessing something strange.
Then the camera drops, but itstill takes pictures and you can
see Travis's bloody leg andJodi's foot in that picture.
Shit has unfolded, yeah it'sinsane, it's unfolding.
Somehow the Shit has unfolded.

(55:52):
Yeah, it's insane, it'sunfolding Somehow.
The camera is on the ground.
Jody stabs him, slits histhroat and, to make sure he's
dead, shoots him in the head.
She then moves Travis's bodyback into the shower to wash him
off and leaves him there.
Now she thinks that she'sdeleted all these photos off the

(56:14):
camera and then puts it in thewashing machine with the bloody
towels, gets in her car, takesoff to Salt Lake City Okay, she
waits six hours and then turnsher phone back on and
immediately starts callingTravis's phone to leave
voicemails about making plans tosee Othello.

(56:35):
Yes, Then tells the whole storyabout how she's driven 100 miles
in the wrong direction, I'mlost, yeah.
She gets to Salt Lake City, shemeets up with Ryan and she goes
on about her life and shecontinues to call and to text
Travis until she gets the phonecall five days later that he has
been found dead and calls otherfriends and plays like the

(56:59):
grieving ex and even attends hisfuneral.
What the fuck?
And they all know that it's her,Like evidence.
Hasn't said it's her yet, butthey know it's her.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
The Mormon infatuation Religious.
Don't give a fuck about who I'mbanging in the butthole Scream
and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I don't want to victim blame, but damn Travis,
you did not help yourself out inthis situation.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
No, he was leading her along.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
You knew she was crazy and you kept stringing her
along.
You knew she was crazy and youkept stringing her along.
You knew she was crazy.
Exactly, you knew she was afucking nutbag.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Somebody's coming from California to air a fucking
Zona and crawling in your doggydoor and crawling in your
fucking doggy door.
And then she moves to your town, four miles down the road from
you.
After you break up, she changesher religion and completely is
infatuated with you.
And you don't give a fuckenough To just say and you have

(57:57):
another chick and you're like Iwant to go to Cancun, fuck off
bitches, right.
And he got fucked off.
Mm-hmm, ooh, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
So now Jody's a crazy bitch, though okay Shit.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
So Jody's first story to police Is that you don't
fuck with a pot farmer.
You don't fuck with a potfarmer.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
From 12 years old.
She was 12.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Not even 14, that is, 5 months older than our child.
She has 12 years of life andshe decides to fucking Raise a
pot farm On the roof, on therooftops Of her parents' house
In fucking California.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Okay, With tacos, with tacos.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Tacos Are better in LA LA, California.
She was in the big surf she wasin.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
well, no, that was when she.
She lived in Riverside first,yeah, Then she moved to the big
surf.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Oh right, right, right, right, right right, but
either way she's a child-assCalifornian pop fucking farmer
that you don't fuck with bro Inthe name of fucking.
Whatever your fucking religiousass fucking.
You don't fuck with Moroni,your butthole.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
The angel Moroni, your butthole banging religion.
Ooh, wait till I go into thatwhole deep dive of the Mormon
religion.
Man, there's a lot Mormonism isjust crazy to me.
And if we have Mormon listeners, we love you.
We just don't like religion.
Yeah, but you can't haveinfatuation.
We don't understand at all anyof it.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Do what you want to do, yes, but just watch out for
this kind of bullshit, becausethis is some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
And Travis shouldn't have been stringing her along,
stringing Bullshit.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
And Travis shouldn't have been stringing her along.
He knew she was crazy.
No matter what, he knew she wasfucking crazy, no matter what.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
So Jodi's first story to police was that she hadn't
been anywhere near Mesa, andwhen they showed her pictures of
herself, she was like OMG,travis must have been sleeping
with someone who looks just likeme.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I mean, we can tag your fucking location, we know
where you were.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
And then, when she was left alone in the
interrogation room, she startedsinging some songs like oh Holy
Night in July, and she does ahandstand Chessie and starts
talking to herself.
And it's really fucking creepyand she laughs to herself.

(01:00:19):
I mean, it's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, it's a wild interrogation Handstands and oh,
holy nights in July, and shesings a Dido song too.
A.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Dido song yeah, Dido is into the chat.
I am fucking yeah what thehandstand got got me.
And there's a littledocumentary I want you to watch
in a little bit.
It's only 40 minutes.
Um, it's the court tv.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
It'll show all of that I gotta show jesse, you
guys, I know, most of my truecrime aficionados that are
listening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I know you guys know this case.
It's very famous.
I don't know about it.
Yeah, but it happened aroundthe same time as casey anthony.
So it's, yeah, it's it's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, it's too much to get away with.
Nowadays technology andlocations your phone literally
lets you know where the fuck youare.
You can't say that you're ahundred miles away because of
some fucking gas cans and somebullshit.
It's there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Well, also, I forgot to put this in my notes she
actually does get stopped on herway to Salt Lake City because
she had rented a car.
Okay, but she switches theplates, but she accidentally put
it upside down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Oh, so she left out in full fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Full premeditation too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Oh intentions of doing what she fucking did.
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Pre-meditated as fuck you know the handstand itself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Just fucking.
Let me know that she did it.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, here's what's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
The gun and the knife , the murder weapons, they have
never been found.
What Never been found?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Oh, she got her bitches off in the desert.
Check this out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
A week before she left she staged a robbery at her
grandparents' house where shestole her grandfather's gun, and
the shell casing from the gunthat they found at the crime
scene matched her grandfather'sgun that was reported stolen.
But check this out out, okay?
So she gets arrested and beforeshe's booked she says, hey, I

(01:02:20):
know this is really shallow, butcan I go fix myself up?
Oh, and she had been reallyflirty, really flirty with all
the male cops that they evensent in a female cop to try and
get her comfortable to maybeconfess to this, because they
know she fucking did it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
She's like I don't want to talk to this bitch, I
want a guy.
I want a guy back in here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Right and so she knows, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
All she knows is how to use her looks and how to use
her sexuality to get what shewants yeah, and her butthole was
golden right yeah, she gotarrested there's literally
pictures of her butthole takingout her man and her.
Hold on.
I'm going to look up for jessebecause you guys I'm sure a lot

(01:03:05):
of you probably know this caseand I know you have seen it, but
I am going to show jesse hermugshot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
You are going to die oh, here on live, here we go.
I'm just thinking about somecool ass punk rock bands over
here.
She's like she got arrested fortaking out her man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
No, lindsey, she is not persuading she is like hey
girl, I am fucking fabulous,fabulous California.
Yes, lindsay, that was herbooking photo, oh Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
It is not working so now, okay, she's brought back in
three weeks later.
Her new story is that whilethey were in the shower taking
sexy pictures, two people a manand a woman in beanies with
holes in them that's pictures.
Two people a man and a woman inbeanies with holes in them
that's how she describes it,which is a fucking ski mask.
Okay, two, two people, beanieswith holes in it, man and a

(01:04:01):
woman.
They came in and they killedTravis and almost killed her too
, but the man said no, we're nothere to kill her.
And then that man was likeyou're that bitch from
California, aren't you?
And if you tell anyone aboutthis, what happened to him?
What happened to you and yourwhole family?
Whole mob style.
Okay, now she sticks with thisstory for like two, three years

(01:04:26):
because this goes on thatfucking long it takes till 2013.
We're fast forwarding to whenthe trial happens.
Okay, this trial was the eventof the season.
Tickets were sold and scalped,people took time off, work like
this was their fucking vacationand Jodi had been quite the true

(01:04:48):
crime celebrity leading up tothis, giving interview after
interview about the wholeassassination.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Quote unquote story Everybody was feeding into her
bullshit.
Oh yeah, Because they knew itwas bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
This bitch gets on Inside Edition and is like no
jury will convict me.
Mark my words.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Oh, fuck, yeah, Put me in the spotlight and I have
nothing to fucking really giveyou.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
But guess what?
She gets on the stand and herstory changes once again.
This bitch is on the stand for18 days, 18 days.
That's unheard of as a defense.
Okay, no, so her story changesonce again Now.
Now, jesse, the true story wasthat she did kill Travis, but in

(01:05:36):
self-defense.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
It's a whole different story.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Now see he had actually been very abusive to
her behind closed doors and shedidn't want to taint his good
Mormon name, she didn't want tomess it up.
So what actually happened,according to Jodi, was when they
were taking the sexy picturesin the bathroom she had actually
dropped his camera and hecalled her a fucking idiot and

(01:05:59):
body slammed her to the ground.
So she quickly goes to thecloset, where she knows he keeps
his gun and shoots him in thehead and everything after that
she don't remember because sheblacked out.
Okay, she blacked out, yeah,and she claimed that she had
also previously caught Travismasturbating to the picture of a
little boy.
What the fuck does that have todo with the fucking, his murder

(01:06:23):
?
Because now she's saying thathe's abusive and he's a
pedophile.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah, but this is fucking garbage the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
So her defense.
Her defense also played thephone sex that Jodi had
recording in open court whereshe has this humongous, huge
fake orgasm.
It's wild.
I listened to that.
Well, I'm like like my face ishorrified.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Is it a big one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
It was so dumb the biggest, greatest one you ever
did see.
The biggest greatest one youever did see.
But on that sex tape Travisdoes mention saying you sound
like a 12-year-old girl comingfor the first time and that's on
recorded tape.
What the fuck?
So they took that, the defensetook that and ran with it.

(01:07:08):
So the defense really tries tomake him look like an abusive
pedophile.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Oh, and, by the way, I'm coming out swinging Lindsay.
I'm fixing to fucking swing bro, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
What the fuck?
Her lawyer?
Her court appointed lawyer.
She can't afford a regular one,Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
His name was the fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Her name was.
His name was Kirk Nermy KirkNermy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Oh, you're playing with the germy Nermy, but don't
be squirmy Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Unfortunately for her .
Her defense did not work andJodi was sentenced to life
without parole.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
And on her sentencing date she wore a t-shirt that
said Survivor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Oh, like she is a victim.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Of not having common fucking sense of being led along
and being fucking just in themiddle of his buggery right.
Right, we call it buggery right, Isn't that the term?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Up until the point of murder.
I can sympathize with her beingled on and made to believe that
she was I get it, I get it, youdon't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
You don't do that, you don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, and when you find out that he is a piece of
shit and he's still seeing otherwomen and he's not into you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Be done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Other than sexually.
You move on and you go on withyour life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Be done then.
And men, let this be a lesson,as you don't treat women like
that, if you ever have a bitchcoming through your fucking
doggy door.
Yeah, it's not cute and I ain'tsaying bitch is being a
derogatory.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
That's not love.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
That's not fucking love, because he thought she was
a bitch Coming through yourdoggy door.
That's disrespect, to beginwith.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
He knew she was crazy you coming through your doggy
door.
That's disrespect.
To begin with, he knew she wascrazy, you're belittling her,
and he still let it happen andletting her come through a doggy
door.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I'm going to give Lindsay my fucking house key.
I'm going to give youeverything that I respect you as
a woman Well that's crazy andlet you come into my life and be
like we're going to have thisintimate thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Right and be proud of it and show it and whatever the
fuck it is now.
In one source I did hear thatshe had the garage code, but she
chose to climb through thedoggy door.
I don't, I don't get it butwhat's crazy to me, this is a at
least 200 pound male.

(01:09:30):
She is 110 pounds and shebrutally murdered this man.
I mean, I don't know how shedid it right, the shot alone.
The pictures the pictures tellthe story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
It was it, but how it was a shot fucking oh my god,
he oh he.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
She started stabbing him first before she shot him.
I feel like he kind of fuckingdeserved it, bro.
He was leaving her alone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I don't know.
We're not going to say that.
We're not going to say that,well, nobody deserves death.
Nobody deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
He shouldn't have let her along, shouldn't have let
her along.
He shouldn't have let her along.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
He knew that she was mentally unwell to lead somebody
along that long and to changingtheir religion and their whole
lifestyle and everything for him, because that's just completely
fucking, just horrific.
Oh my fucking god, lindsey,this is she shouldn't have done
that either.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
you don't change your whole identity for a dude, you
just don't do it.
And what is a mystery to me isthey are.
They're having an afternoon ofsexy time.
They're butt naked.
Where is she keeping this knifethat she stabbed him 27 times
with the nearly decapitated him?
Where did that go?
Where was it at?

(01:10:50):
Where's the gun and the knife?
Exactly Because it was hergrandpa's gun, not you.
It hasn't been found, but itmatched the shell casings of the
gun that was missing from hergrandpa's house where's all the
shit?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
where's?
Where's the evidence in thefucking the you?
Well, you said the gun matchedthe fucking.
So where's the gun you werelike?
Well, she staged a robbery ather grandparents house prior to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
This was all now.
She tried to act like it was acrime of passion, but it was
definitely premeditated.
This bitch was carrying gascans.
She turned her phone off at theright time.
She turned it back on at theright time, sent him messages to
act like she didn't know thatshe had just killed him led on
insanity?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
yeah, if that is a thing I don't know, that she had
just killed him.
Led on insanity?
Yeah.
If that is a thing I don't know, no, she led on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
first she said she went nowhere near Mesa.
Then she said ninjas came inand killed him.
Then she said that she killedhim out of passion, because he
had beat her ass and don't go,ninja.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Nobody, don't need ninja.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Exactly yeah, but he led her ass on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Oh yeah, In yeah, but he let her ass on.
Oh yeah, In this wholereligious fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
He didn't deserve death.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
No no, but you don't fucking keep dragging somebody
from California over to yourfucking hole and you keep
playing in the bunghole.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
And if he was really Like he knew she was crazy, and
if he was really concerned andif he had just not been addicted
to the poon, he could havestopped that with a restraining
order.
There were signs there couldhave stopped that with a
restraining order signs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
There was so many signs.
All his friends were tellinghim period he knew there's so
many signs.
Yes, asa base, really fuckingseen it.
You know, I'm saying I saw thesame.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, exactly asa base opened up my eyes I saw the
sign, but travis did not chooseto acknowledge the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
He saw it Right, but he didn't document it, but no
one's going to drag you up toget into the night where you
belong.
And I just had to Uh, uh, uh.
No one is.
And you have to see the signswhen all this shit's going on,
rattle, rattle in my fucking noquarters, no mercy cup.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
He could have ended everything with a restraining
order long before she plannedhis murder it shouldn't have
happened.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
No, you should have been.
Like.
You know, you're really not mybag.
I love the band.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
He should have straight up told her.
I can't marry you because of myreligion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Don't change your religion.
For me, I'm not that selfish.
He was selfish and he wanted itall.
He wanted the poon, he wantedthe chicks, he wanted the thing
and he wanted wiping materialover here on the side and you
got your little fucking ringthat you wear.
That he took off.
He took it off while he was Tobang Jody.
Yeah, it's not great.

(01:13:30):
It's not great.
So this is the whole ass story,that's it that is the story of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Jody Arias and Travis Alexander and how things could
have definitely been prevented.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I'm sorry that I was like trying to plug in some of
the things I was thinking aboutand I'm over here rattling my
cup because I am fucking fullyon inebriated.
But you know, it's great.
I'm allowed to be right.
I'm allowed to be right.
Am I allowed to be?
Is this what you want me to be?
Am I all that you want me to be?
And Ace of Base was part ofthis.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I saw the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, you got to see the signs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
You can't fucking do this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Like pay attention to the red flag, Human beings
fucking along and tie religionand buggery into the butthole
fucking play and then get her tolike change her whole lifestyle
.
When you clearly through afucking doggy door to come and
play around with you, causeyou're that selfish.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
When you clearly see that somebody's mental health is
off.
They're slashing your tires,they're stalking you.
You've got to cut them offRight.
Get the law involved, anythingthat you can, before you get
stabbed 27 times, I mean if yousee somebody putting that effort
and you're not fully into them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
No, let it go let it fucking go, don't drag them
along.
You're being selfish, you'rebeing unhumane and I hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
He did not deserve death but he did not fucking
fully support human life.
He didn't understand what hewas in at all, and mentalism and
somebody's humanitarianism.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Does that make sense?
I don't know.
Jesse's drunk you are, I am,I'm sorry.
You got the crown CrownStraight crown Straight fucking
eyes, but Em, I'm allowed to be.
You said I'm allowed to be, soI'm crawling through your doggy
door, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
And I'm telling you so fuck, Jody RIP.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Travis.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
What amazing band are you plugging this week?
I'm playing music.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, I'm allowed to play some fucking music over
here and I love supporting thesefucking bands, so check these
guys out.
I got this amazing band calledIssue of Destiny and they're
from Gainesville.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Like the pick of destiny Is there like the pick
of fucking destiny.
But they have some issues, bro,bro Row Row issues.
Bro, bro Roe Roe, roe, roe, browith a Roe.
So check issue of Destiny out.
And this song is called Let Go.
So check this shit out, guitarsolo.

(01:16:30):
Somewhere between piles ofsilver and lead, I've been
running in circles, been walkingthrough worlds of unending.
Do you feel lost, abandoned,thrown from the back?

(01:16:58):
A scorched environment of rotWill descend, it will descend.
I can't let go.
I can't let go.

(01:17:22):
Since I fell from grace, I feltlike a waste of your time.
Ever since that day, you havehaunted my mind.

(01:17:52):
You've haunted my mind.
You've haunted my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
There is no comfort, there is no reason, there is no
rhyme, this misdirection, howthings got Blown.
On divine, I left on divine.
I must let go, I must let go, Ijust let go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Holy shit, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
That was amazing.
I love it.
So I looked them up onInstagram.
Follow them, you guys.
They are described as a grungemetal band, which is two of my
favorite genres.
It's grunge metal and it's gotthe little grungy and the raw.
I loved it.
I loved it so much.
I have followed them now onInstagram and Spotify.

(01:19:11):
We're in so Gainesville.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
We love you.
So, gainesville, we're fans, welove you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
So Gainesville is right down the road from us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
It's hard to break out of the ska music and punk
music from Gainesville.
Ska and punk in Gainesville,florida, is the tits, but these
guys are full on fucking grungemetal out of Gainesville.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Don't forget you guys .
That's where Tom Petty's from.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
For sure, yeah, for sure, and it was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
It's also where the Gainesville Ripper was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Oh, the Gainesville Ripper.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
We have a.
What did we do?
A, two, three part on that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Ah, two, three.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Two part I think Three part.
I think Gaines, go back andlook up our Go back, go back, go
back, go back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Yeah, drinkaboutsomethingsite.
Yes, and watch and listen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Follow this amazing band Follow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
The issue of Destiny, which reminds me of the Pick of
Destiny, which makes me want towatch Tenacious D.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
We're going to watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
I need you to watch.
Okay, so Court TV.
Okay, there's severaldocumentaries On the Jodi Arias
case.
It was very famous.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
It came out around the same time.
Let's go back and watch.
I want to see the handstandDude.
I want to see the handstand.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
You've got to see the handstand, the handstand.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
In the interrogation room.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Oh my God Woo, and how she talks to herself.
It's very Robert Durst, whichwe will cover.
He's called the Jinx and we'regoing to cover that probably in
January.
January is going to be aboutthe Jinx, because that's going
to be a huge one like Jim Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
I just really have to say thank you for all of your
amazing fucking stories and wecan have whatever it takes to
get through all this.
You do a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Thank you so much you do a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Some of my foresights are a little early and I feel
like some of them they'rejustified because I'm drunk and
I'm just see what's fixing tofucking happen, dude, it's crazy
.
So you did a great job though.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Thank you so much, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
And make sure you stay tuned for next week Will we
cover something else?

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, something new, something new, something bold,
something blue.
I will go ahead and give someforesight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Next week will be a Florida case.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Really, yeah, really, it will be another Florida case
, something here in Old Town.
Yeah, we're getting away fromCalifornia.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
From O-Town yeah, we're getting away from
California.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
We're going back to Florida.
We've been in Californiaforever, yeah, but I'm glad
we're moving back.
It's like Florida andCalifornia has so much true crew
, true crew, blue, blue, thecrime.
I know I'm slurring, there's alot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
You got me in the backside of this, lindsay and
I've been drinking straightCrown Apple on ice.
Well, I mean, this crimeactually happened in Arizona, so
yeah.
Just the murderer was fromCalifornia.
Well, yeah, the murderer Justthe murderer was from California
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Well, yeah, the murderer yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
The killer was from California.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
So check out all of our past stuff and we'll see you
guys next Friday.
And make sure you check out ourrecap from Jonestown and all
four parts of that, because yourgirl put in the work she did On
that one and I'm proud of youbecause you did so fucking great
on that and you puddled me allthe day long.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
So much puddled.
We were both puddled on thatone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
It was great.
We'll see you guys next Fridaythough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Bye.

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