EPISODE 47: Belle Gunness

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Jesse, Hello.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
What are you drinking ?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
today I have like some vodka and some Jim Jones
over here in this cup, but I'mnot partaking too much, because
I partaked way too much earlier.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I did.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I did, I did Well.
You also have an energy drink alani yeah so we're fired up
we're fired up.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yes, what are you drinking over there?
You got a whole ass fuckingmoonshine jug over here.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I have a mason jar of okay vodka, soda water or
sparkling water.
It looks beautiful, lime andlime.
Vista Bay.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Lime.
I love it.
It is so good.
The lime is very good.
So Vista Bay lime, all thelimes.
Don't spread the lime light allover your notes over there.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Pause it so I can clean.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You can clean, no, clean, while it's fucking going.
Don't pause.
We're not going to pause whileyou spill your alcohol in front
of me on your, on your beautifulnotes.
It didn't go on my notes.
It went on the table.
Okay, it didn't go on the notes.
It went on the table.
No-transcript.
It didn't go on the notes, itwent on the table.
It went on our kids' schoolbooks, though, the school books,
school books.

(01:27):
I don't think we need that.
So we did a video ass chat.
Honestly, our first Video recap, video recap, video ass recap.
That's what it was Lindsey'scleaning, because she spilled
something on something.
I spilled some of this todayand it happens, it happens, it
does.

(01:48):
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful, lindsey, itwas the most beautiful thing all
right, sir, go ahead and rollthat intro do?
you got all your shit in a rowhere, lindsey I do.
Holy shit, we're going, we'regoing, we're going, we're going.
Happy fucking friday.
Everybody cheers.

(02:15):
I love your cup, dude.
I feel like I want to drink outof the mason jar all my life,
all my life.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I pray for someone like you, so real quick before
we get started, if you're newhere.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thank God that I finally found you.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Go ahead.
If you're new here.
What we do is we have a coupleof drinks and we talk about a
true crime story that I haveresearched and wrote out.
Jesse knows nothing about itfor the most part, even the
cases that he does know, he doesnot know the details and then
at the end of the episode heplugs the band that he has
gotten.
He does not know the detailsand then at the end of the
episode, he plugs the band thathe has gotten.
Permission to play on our podand we are so grateful for those

(03:11):
artists.
Support those artists and, uh,go back and listen.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like I said, if you're new here, go back and
listen to our all our backlogyeah, if you like music, if you
like true crime, if you likedrunken banter, drunken, fuck
dude, I have been so drunk today.
You got me today, lindsay,slurry, slurry y'all.
Hang on, cause it's finna.

(03:35):
Get fucking nuts.
Lindsay, you got a fuckingbadass story.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I got a question for you what you got, lindsay what
made you feel old this week?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
shit sake Lindsay now it's shit sake damn hell sake,
damn hell fuck, son of a bitchpile of fuzzy monkey nuts over
here.
So my old was like, okay, everyyear, honestly, every fucking

(04:06):
year, when all the kids go toschool and they just fucking got
in school in florida, in ourarea well, pretty much
everywhere yeah we just got sick.
Everybody has ailments everytime kids go to school and and
you know I love education thewhole everything but recovering

(04:28):
from that makes you feel old.
You know All the kids they goto school the next week
everybody's sick.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well, and my heart goes out to you because I've
been a single mom before in thepast.
I raised my older three boys bymyself for eight years.
That first week of school isreally a trying time, or the
first month is really a tryingtime for especially single
mothers, or or even marriedmothers that have a nine to five

(04:58):
job, because guess who theycall first at school.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
The mother, or good ass dads, I mean oh yeah, yeah
or single dads, absolutely.
I mean you gotta play.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So yes, you're absolutely right.
Thank you for bringing that tomy attention because these?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
because there are single dads that are raising
their children.
You have to give them thatcredit honestly or stay at home.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Dads stay at home where the mom is yeah, has the
full-time career and the dad'sgot to go, so it's a trying time
.
It's a trying time.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
So kudos to all the dads too that aspire to be in
that position.
But moms, forever fucking moredeserve that credit, Forever
more.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
But I'm just saying it's a trying time because you
are at work, yeah, or you know,even if you're at school, if
you're trying to further yourdegree, yeah, young moms, you
get that call from the school.
You got to come get them.
Now you and I are growing up.
We had to be damn near deathbefore they would call our
parents.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
What I broke down to Silas, our 11-year-old, which
was shit.
I broke down to all the otherkids.
I said you're stealing moneyfrom our household when you call
and you fuck up and you dosomething stupid to where we
have to leave.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
We're not talking about that.
We're talking about whenthey're sick and the school is
going to call yeah, period, ifthey have a red throat, if they
got a stiffy nose, the early onsickness, I get, I get, I get
all that.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
But further on in their educational year of school
and and the whole thing, ifthey do something stupid where
you have to leave work andyou're like fuck, I leave work
because my kid wasn't payingattention in class or my kid
wasn't being respectful or hegot written up and you got to do

(06:43):
, I mean but we were talkingabout sickness oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah, we were talking about how,when you go back to school,
everybody's sick.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Every kid gets sick and you gotta go pick them up.
So I'm trying to push hard.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm trying to push, I know, but that's not what we
were talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh, I know, we were talking about what you said made
me feel old.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, and I mean I haven't got all the way to the,
the narrative, uh, that I wantedto push because of a
conversation that me and silashad, if that makes sense, but I
had to get it out, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, lizzie, I've been,I'm in a little tooter, tooter,
tootaloo over here on the.
You know, the I'm in, I'mdrinking a lot, I I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
But basically it sucks.
Back to school, the whole shit.
Kids get sick.
You get called from work.
Yes, you got to baby yourbabies because your babies need
you Period.
I get that part.
Yes.
But when they fake sick and theteacher or the nurse still has
to call home, that sucks.
Because now you've missed a dayof work, yes, and that's not

(07:45):
cool because them kids ain't gota fucking stomach ache or a
stuffy nose all summer they'refaking it they're faking it, and
I have to say so.
This is our second year into ourhomeschool journey and guess
what?
Silas has not had a.
No, I'm sorry he did, he wassick one time, last time one
time last year justifiable.
Call your mom and daddy but itwe didn't have to call us

(08:09):
because we were already herewe're here I was already at home
and I was at work, but you knowwe were okay
so yeah before that I would geta call about once a week, yeah,
and some kind of ailment that hewas trying to pass off and it
off.
And he's not the only one of myfour kids that have done that.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, and that's the narrative that I was trying to
put into further.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's where I was going.
I was going to get into that.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh, so we're team Gen Z over here on raising kids
over here.
Yeah, you got it and I got it,and I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
But, jesse, you haven't asked me what made me
feel old.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
This week I was fixing to.
I was just trying to plug thewhole conversation up to this
point.
So what made you feel, old MissLindsay, over here?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, you know, when I'm doing scrolling the TikTok,
sometimes songs from it'll saylike top 10 songs from 1994.
And I'm like, oh my God, thatwas like like I remember.
When I hear those songs it'sliterally like I'm right back
there in 1992, 1993, 1994 orwhatever.

(09:17):
But that was a long time ago thefuck it was it was a long time
ago and it's really hard for meto, because time is a thief like
time is an absolute thief, butI am grateful for the time
period that I was born in.
A lot of people wish or orthink that if they were born in

(09:40):
a different time period theirlife would have been better no
I'm gonna be covering anold-timey case today and guess
what?
bullshit's been happening allthrough time and there has been
horror and true crime andabsolute shittiness through the
entire time.
Because I'm gonna go back, we'regonna go back into the the, you

(10:00):
know don't tell me yet the well, I'm just saying we're gonna go
back to the king and queen agesand shit like that at some
point with our true crime,because it's just been happening
through history.
There's been no point inhistory where anything was hunky
dory.
There is no such thing as goodold days, so throw that shit
right out the window If you havea good old day scenario in your

(10:21):
head it's because you had agood childhood.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's it.
Yeah, and you were shelteredaway from what was real.
You were sheltered away fromwhat was really going on.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, and, as a person who did not have a great
childhood, I want to debunk thegood old day theory all the way
down to attila the hun.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know how many people that are kin to Attila
the Hun?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Who the fuck is that?
Okay, that sounds like a StarWars character like Jabba the
Hutt, no historically Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
One out of 500,000 people in the globe is kin to
Attila the Hun.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So global of the hun okay so global.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now I have.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I have a case on people or a character in time
that we will talk about later onin the future, yeah, um, where
a lot of people are related tothis character as well, so I'm
intrigued go ahead and thenthat's crazy as fuck, where a
human being has a conquest,where he travels around killing
whole civilizations and rapingand doing so much pillaging to

(11:28):
the point to where his dna iseverywhere is ever fucking where
lindsey.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, robert barathian, I'm not trying I'm
not trying to like like.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Okay, I am trying to like like, but at the same time,
attila the Hun was a fucking,you know.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, he was like a conquistador of, just like Asian
fucking taking over the worldtype well, that's crazy, because
the guy that I'm gonna talkabout that also has a lot of DNA
through history, is also Asian,so just taking in what people
have done historically, you know, in in religion and everything
where people would join abattlefield, 500,000 on each

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side in the name of Jesus, andthen or a name of, in the name
of whatever God they wereworshiping, and 10,000 people
were fighting and 5,000 peopledied.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Holy shit, I mean I feel like that's true crime to
me.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Oh yeah, that's true crime to me.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
We're going to cover shit like that later on, because
there was an asshole behindthat that made everybody be like
, hey, you need to go do thisfor God for two years, and if
you don't do this, then I'mtaking your land, your wife,
your family and everything youown.
That was a thing, so that'strue crime to me.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hold on, I'm just taking a picture of you beside
the plant that has bloomed.
Oh, the blooming plant.
Because you're going to want tocrawl in that bitch in a little
bit.
Oh what?
All right, Let me get a betterpicture.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Live ass pictures.
You want me to leave this onhere?
Don't cover up the bloom, it'sbeautiful.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Y'all don't know about the plant Do a smile, do a
smile.
I can't see your face at all.
What the fuck.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Lindsay, come on, tighten it up.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You just went behind the whole, all right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
All right, here we go , here we go, here we go what?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I need to do some crazy.
There we go.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
How do you like that?
Is that a good one.
I can post later.
That is it.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
So we're going to have a picture right now.
What just fucking happened thatyou fucking heard.
But anyhow, our plan isblooming.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So anyhow, the peace lily that Jesse turns to when I
get to the rough part of thestory it's there.
We're going to post a pictureof that, because it has a really
pretty balloon today.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And you know how many times I've talked to the plant,
how many times have I turned,fucking that way.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, let's get.
You want to get to the story.
Yeah, you want to get to whatwe're drinking about today.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yes, but full on circle real quick, real quick,
real quick.
Historically, so many peoplehave done true crime as far as
pushing people into a fuckingbullshit ass narrative and I'm
fixing to get pissed off becauseI'm a little fucking drunk and
I'm pissed off becausehistorically, all the way down
to fucking Stalingrad and Hitlerand everybody that's done their

(14:23):
fucking bullshit and pushingthings in to a real thing where
people have killed so manymillions of people historically.
We need to talk about that aswell well, and also this story.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
At the end of the story you will see how far back
and I mean this is just goingback about a hundred years.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
So, lindsay, what are we fucking drinking about?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
We're drinking about a lady named bell Gunness.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Bell Gunness.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
She will have several different names, but we'll talk
about that towards the end.
So, okay, the very firstpodcast I ever listened to was
about this case and it wascovered by sword and scale.
And now I still love sword andscale, but I definitely prefer a
podcast with humor and wittybanter, hence why we have humor

(15:14):
and witty banter I'm not muchcool on the banter yeah, we are,
we're good, I'm kidding okay,because I'm a goofball and drunk
ass fucking bastard over here,right?
now.
So like sword and scale is a uha production, whereas we are
just talking.
We're just talking about thisshit yeah yeah, yeah but, like I
said, this was the very firstpodcast I ever listened to, the

(15:37):
very first case I ever listenedto and it stuck with me and I
gotta tell you about it.
Okay, all right, kudos to swordand scale yeah sword and scale
is great, okay, yeah, so bell,gunness or goodness, but I'm
gonna say gunness because it'sjust easier.
She was born bella paulstatteror brennhild theestadestorseth.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Holy shit, that's a fucking mouthful.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I know she was a Norwegian-American and born
November 11th 1856, in Selbu,municity.
Yeah, selbu, sel pfft, selbu,municity, norway, to Paul and
Berit Storseth.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
She sounds Scandinavian over here.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So she was one of eight kids and her sister Orlina
.
She moved to America andmarried a man named John Larson.
And married a man named JohnLarson and in her early teens
Belle worked for neighboringfarms in the area milking and
herding cattle to save money forher dream of migrating to

(16:53):
America as well, and she did soin 1881.
That's 100 years before youwere born, jesse.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
You were born in 1981 .
Belle moved to America in 1881.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
A whole ass fucking hundred years.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And you're Scandinavian as fuck, so you
could have been related.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, you know, I found out, lindsay, that my
family moved about 20 yearsbefore that into the United
States as well.
So, holy shit, we're, as family, Moving together trying to come
across and be and not reallyconquerors.
Trying to achieve the dream thebetter of whatever has been

(17:34):
established over here.
You know, that is awesome,that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
She would make her way to Chicago to live with
Orlena, who now went by Nellie,and her husband John.
Now there was a huge influx ofNorwegian immigrants in the
Midwest at this time, like huge.
They had their own littlenewspaper, all that shit.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
That was coming over.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
She would find work as a domestic servant, and then
she got a job as a butcher.
Put a bit in that, yeah skills.
Bella was now Belle Petersonand she really wanted to be rich
and successful and so just aservant or a butcher lady wasn't
.
That wasn't going to be it forher.
She had.

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She had goals, she had dreams.
She wanted to marry a rich manwho would provide her with a
comfortable lifestyle.
Okay, and it was said that shewas being courted by a suitor
and became pregnant out ofwedlock.
And then she miscarried thatbaby Fuck.
And that man would lose hislife to arsenic poisoning.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Double fuck.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
But that part is a mystery and has become part of
the folklore that is now BelleGunness.
Okay, I don't know anythingabout this fucking thing you're
building and I'm surprised?
You don't, because this is someshit Bitch.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
you're over here building this fucking crazy ass
story already that I don't knownothing about.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Okay, holy shit.
So, belle, she would go on tomarry a man named Mads Dittslau
Anton Sorensen in 1884.
So that's only about threeyears after she came to America.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So another ethnic type person?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
yes, well, I told you there was an influx of
norwegian, of norwegianimmigrants in the midwest right.
Okay, they would awesome thisis awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
This is the most fucking epic story you've told
me so far.
Honestly, maybe it's becauseI'm fucking drunk already, but
like I'm trying, no, wait aminute, wait a minute, wait a
minute, let's see.
Wait, calm it down a little bithere, because I'm trying to
take all this in.
Fuck's sake.
This is going to be the mostepic story because it's new, new

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, it's old, old, old, new, orit's very old.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's our oldest story we've spoke of yet.
No, no, no, no, it's not ouroldest story, because we have
covered the salem witch trials.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, so that was our oldest in history, thus far,
but now I'm seasoned a littlebit into this and now I'm like
embracing something that I'venever heard before.
Or you, you've never even spokea word to me about all of this,
and I am fucking intrigued.

(20:28):
Right now I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
You're hooked.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Scandinavian ass motherfucker over here and I'm
so excited.
Dude, All right.
Well let me fucking tell thestory I ain't going to interrupt
anymore, but I'm a whole assfoot over here tickling Lindsay
over here Because I'm like she'slike quit fucking with me, but
I'm drunk as fuckery.
Fuck.
You Go with Lindsay, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So so Bell and Mads Bell and Mads OK, they get
married and they open a littlecandy and cigarette shop
together.
I mean because, yeah, what'sbetter than candy and cigarettes
?
You know that's the perfecttime for it.
Cigarettes, you know that's theperfect time for it.
And Mads had also been a nightwatchman, but he wasn't really
what you would call rich and thecandy shop wasn't really that

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successful, but luckily it wasinsured because about a year
after opening it burned to theground Fuck, supposedly due to a
kerosene explosion.
No, I don't believe it.
All right, well, let me tellthe story, okay, but I don't
believe it.
So Belle, she wanted kidsreally badly, okay, like that

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was just like her goal in life.
She wanted to be rich, shewanted to live comfortably and
she wanted some babies.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
So she's new into the United States, right.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And she's trying to build this whole career.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, she came over in 81.
We're now in 80, well, we'llsay about 90 at this point.
18, 90.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, okay, and I'm trying to build the whole.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Let me tell the story before you build.
Let me build, okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
No building blocks over here.
I'm not being Jack Black overhere.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, so the candy store has burned to the ground
and Belle wanted kids.
She wanted kids, really bad,and she was having trouble
conceiving and her sister Nellieshe had already had some kids
at this time and Belle, likeweirdly, expected her just to
give her one what?
Yeah, belle was like Nellie, canI have one of your children?

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And Nellie was like no, that'smy child.
And then Belle gets pissed offand like cuts ties with her
Period.
Fuck, yeah, belle, nelliesisters no more, you're not cool
.
She ended up adopting one.
Yeah, belle, nellie sisters, nomore, you're not cool, you're
not cool.
Well, she ended up adopting onedaughter named Jenny Olsen and

(22:51):
then, literally, mysteriously,like nobody knows how, belle had
four kids.
Belle had four fucking kids outof nowhere she had two sets of
twins within two years after notbeing able to conceive for now
15 years.
So we're 15 years down the roadfrom her and Mads getting
married.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'm looking at you right now.
I'm like I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
She can't conceive, but she all of a sudden has two
sets of twins within two years.
Okay, so now she has.
So now she has five kids total.
She's adopted Jenny.
She's got two sets of twins butunfortunately two of the babies
passed away before the age ofsix months because they had
enlarged intestinal issues.

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Now the mortality rate duringthis time was insane and people
didn't live very long and babieswere dying all the time.
But Belle had these kidsinsured and she got a life
insurance payout.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
That time they were had, they had some, I know.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Isn't that crazy?
Like that still is insane to methat in the late 1800s, early
1900s, there was life insurance.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Okay, it's the perfect time to do some crazy
ass fuckery.
Yeah Cause, right now, holyshit, and like okay, you're
dumping, right now, you'redumping it.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Four human beings right now, five, five human
beings, she's got five and two,one is adopted, two gone, four
that nobody knows how she cameabout acquiring Right.
Two are now deceased.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Right From intestinal issues.
Two gone.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes, and she had insurance payouts for both of
those children.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
This is a lot to take in.
I hope you get up to my energybecause I am drunk energy.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I know, just listen for a little bit.
I am listening.
Listen for a little bit.
Okay, drunk energy Before youpop back in.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm not Just listen, I'm not Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
So then, bill and Mads, they were scammed out of
some of their money by anAlaskan miner.
Now, this was a thing back then.
There was like you know how youget that message from Messenger
from the Nigerian prince thatwants to give you all his money.
Well, this was happening backthen, from Alaskan miners.

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So Mads and Belle put all theireggs into this basket and this
basket just fucking falls andall the eggs crack and they're
out of money.
So, fucked up right now withthis whole analogy but I get it
as luck would have it their homewould burn to the ground and

(25:40):
they got another insurancepayout, so they recovered their
losses from their home burningto the ground.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
It was like two kids died out of nowhere.
She tried to claim that no, no,no, no.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
We got to start.
The candy store burned down.
She got an insurance payoutfrom that Fuck Okay.
Two kids died, she got aninsurance payout from that, for
fuck's sake.
Now the house is burned down.
She's got an insurance payoutfrom that.
So it's a lot to keep upseveral pages.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
God damn, we're all trying to catch up because it's
like okay, everybody else is onboard.
You're got a delayed reaction Ithink, everybody else is caught
up, but I'm not.
I'm astounded, honestly, andit's just gonna get more.
It's not locking in, because atthe point where you're like bam
, bam, bam, bam bam, I'm likewait a minute, wait, wait a

(26:33):
minute, wait, wait a minute.
And you're like wait a minuteand I'm like alaskan fucking,
what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
yeah, alaskan miners had this whole scamming thing
going on fuck yeah I'm trying toput myself into the late 1800s.
This well, you still gotsettlers and pioneers at this
point.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, certain parts of the country to take in yeah
especially when you're fuckingdrunk, as I am already and it
and it's just like you're, likeeverybody understands, but like
I don't fucking understand rightdrink some more alani, well,
and let's follow along the alaniis empty, but I'm gonna drink
more liquor because I don't.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, I'm ready what do you mean?
You don't get it.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'll get it now.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Insurance is a big part of this.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
But three stages of in Alaska, in the fucking middle
of fuck.
This is going to be crazy.
Okay, I'm going to let you go.
I'm going to let you go.
Go Lindsay, go Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
So in 1900, mads, the husband, belle's husband, he
has two life insurance policiesand the way that these were set
up, on July 30th of that yearboth of these policies would
become active at the same timebecause he bought one.
The first one that he boughtwas going to expire, and then

(27:51):
the second one is going toexpire, and then the second one
is going to activate, but onJuly 30th these insurance
policies are going to be activeon the same day.
Okay, alright, okay.
And it just so happened thatMads came home with a headache
that day and Belle gave him somequinine powder, which was a

(28:13):
popular remedy at the time.
So she gave him some quininepowder, which was a popular
remedy at the time.
So she gave him some quininepowder to take away his headache
.
And when she went to check onhim, mads was dead From a
cerebral hemorrhage.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's four Lindsay.
Four fucking events.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
All quick with insurance, fucking bullshit baby
, you are gonna have to let metell this story because there's
gonna be a lot of events we'rewrestling later and we are going
to have a two-hour episode, ifyou don't let me talk, no, I
want one.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I want one because we're wrestling later.
This is crazy as fuck to me.
I just don't fucking understandhow the fuck all this is
wrapped together real quick,because it's early 1900s.
You're punching me so fuckingfast.
I don't know what the fuck isfucking happening.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Well, it turns out that Belle had made a goof, or
well, actually the doctor did,because according to her, what
she thought was quinine powderwas actually morphine fuck.
So she collected that lifeinsurance, which was five
thousand dollars, and that isequal to a hundred and ninety
two thousand dollars in today'smoney that's what I'm talking

(29:26):
about.
There's a lot of fuckery goingon craziness and she took off to
laporte, indiana, and bought apig farm and this farm already
had a little bit of bad history,like it had been a brothel
before.
But bell got it and she got itgoing again and she renamed it
abattoir acres there's so muchcontent to talk about right now.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Abattoir, I'm gonna let you fly about a pig farm
brothel.
I'm going to let you fuckingfly about a fucking pig farm
brothel.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
And you know there are quite a few famous people
from LaPorte, including DrScholl the foot guy.
Really yeah, the foot fuckingguy, the foot guy is invented
From brothel, fucking pig farm,fucking whatever.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's fucking Okay.
I'm not gonna talk much aboutit, I'm gonna let you fly, you
got a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
So, belle, when she gets her farm in La Porte she is
now in her 40s and she's asingle mom and boy did she look
rough?
And I'm gonna show you apicture really quick of her,
just so you can go ahead andhave her in your little brain,
your little brain stem for therest of the story.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I am honestly, I am honestly involved in this whole
ass fucking story.
You're invested not involved,I'm involved and invested.
There's Bella.
I got my whole ass foot overhere on Lindsay.
There she is and all of hernine ass fucking, fucking kids.
What the fuck is going on withher and her insurance.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well, belle, like I said, she looks rough.
You just saw a picture.
Yeah, okay, so she had a farmand she had a little fortune,
but you know what?
There is just there's neverenough money.
Okay, there's just never enoughmoney.
Okay, there's just never enoughmoney.
Now it said that Bell waslooking for a new man by placing

(31:23):
an ad in the Chicago Tribune,but that wasn't really
successful at first.
Okay, and she ended upreuniting with an old tenant of
hers from Chicago Cause.
So when her and Mads lived inChicago, they had a tenant whose
name was Peter Gunness, andthat's how you know.

(31:44):
She got her last name, um, andso they got reacquainted.
Now, peter had been marriedprior to meeting Bill and he had
two children, and on the second, when the second child was
coming into this world, his wifesadly passed away from giving
birth and the baby she passedaway as well, now his surviving

(32:08):
daughter.
Her name was Swan Hilt.
So, peter and Belle, they gotreacquainted, they got married,
she becomes Belle Gunness andwithin six months of this union,
little Jenny Gunness went tothe neighbor's house and said
that her father had been burned.

(32:29):
Fuck, please, come help.
I mean, she's like you know,she's at the neighbor's door
Come help my daddy's hurt.
And when the neighbors getthere, peter isn't burned at all
, but he was laying in a pool ofblood and his nose had been
broken and he was dead.
What the fuck is happening.

(32:52):
So the coroner?
Guess what the coroner's nameis.
Give me two guesses of what youthink the coroner's name is.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I'm trying to think of a fucking cool ass name Harry
Belafonte.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The coroner's name was Dr Bowel Dr.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Bowel.
Wait a minute, I can't evenpull up a fucking cool ass
Belafonte on you and you pullBowell on me.
Woo, what the fuck Lindsay so?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Dr Bowell was fetched and he saw that there was a
contusion on the back of Peter'shead as well.
So he's laying in a pool ofblood.
His nose is broken, supposedlyhe's burned.
Now there's a contusion on theback of Peter's head as well.
So he's laying in a pool ofblood.
His nose is broken, supposedlyhe's burned.
Now there's a contusion on theback of the head.
So Dr Bowles' instant thoughtwas murder.
But Belle, she was like no,what had happened was I?

(33:50):
I'm speaking in, belle.
Okay, I'm boiling some brinefor my hog head cheese.
Okay.
And Peter liked to keep hisshoes near the stove to keep
them warm.
And when he bent down to gethis shoes, the meat grinder that
I had used earlier to makesausage it fell off the shelf,
knocking him into the ground andalso knocked over that hot

(34:14):
brine that I was boiling.
And now all of this, all this,has killed my poor peter so this
is like the early 1900s right?
this is 1900 no, this is alittle past 1900, so mads died
early 1900.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, the early 19.
If you're not fucking fourshots in right now with me,
you're not fucking joining ourfucking podcast.
That's what I feel like.
If you're not fucking fourshots into this bullshit that
she's dropping on me right now,you're not joining this podcast,
because I'm like holy fuckery,fuck, fuck sake, lindsey.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Belle.
She was hysterical, like sheput on the performance of a
lifetime, of course, and what'sweird was Dr Bowell couldn't
find any evidence of Burns.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'm going back to Bowell over here.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But it was all trumped up to an accident.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Trumped up.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So now Peter is gone and Belle had another kid what
To an accident Trumped up.
So now Peter is gone and Bellehad another kid what?
So it's thought because she wasa stout woman like weighing in
the upper 200s that maybe herbaby bump just didn't show.
And when the midwife showed upto assist her in giving birth,

(35:32):
belle was already supposedly had, she had already washed and
dressed the baby and was doinglaundry.
And you know what laundry waslike back in the 1900s, right,
early 1900s early like we livedin the 1900s we had washing
machines, but the early 1900sthey were out there washboard
and that shit.
Right Now the baby namedPhillip was just a little too

(35:56):
big and a little too bright-eyedto be a newborn.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So there's a little suspish, okay so like an eight
month, eight month old showingup that part?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
we'll never know.
That part's what part of hermystery?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I feel like honestly, lindsey me and you is going to
wrestle over this one, becauseI'm just like how in the shit
are you dropping this shit on mewith this?
I can't get it.
I can't get it.
You got a lot to put out.
You got a lot to put out.
There's this big ass fuckingstory, holy fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
So now Peter's dead.
That's the second of herhusbands that have met their
untimely death.
Okay, fuck, she's got anotherbaby named Phillip who's.
We don't know if that was herkid or not.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Fuck sake.
So then Peter's brother Goose.
He came to town and he was verysuspicious about his brother's
death and was very concernedabout the life insurance policy
on him.
All of that life insurance wassupposed to go to Swan Hilde and
he was in town to make surethat that happened.

(37:04):
But Bell told Gust to come on,come on and stay at the farm in
a while, help out a little bit.
And he's like well, where thefuck is my brother's money?
So Belle told him that Peterhad invested in some stocks and
when that matured Swanhild wouldget that money.
Okay, but she didn't have anydocumentation to prove this

(37:24):
claim whatsoever, had none Cause.
You usually I mean even backthen you got some paperwork to
prove you got some stocks.
You got some paperwork to proveyou got some stocks.
So, gust, he would stay for acouple of days and then he
vanishes with Swan Hilt, likehe's out, he takes the baby,
he's gone.
So now Belle is a widowed,single mother again.

(37:47):
Okay, but that didn't stop her.
That woman could work a farmand she would dress in men's
clothing and go to livestock andfarm auctions.
I mean, she, she had that shit.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
She was the mother and the father well, I mean, she
came from another country, sheunderstands the workability like
I'm a man and now yeah right,yeah, and playing the whole
fucking insurance scheme.
That's going on Fuck.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
So it was said that she could lift a 200 pound hog
without any issue and Iimmediately thought about that
brute ass.
Bitch on what's the name ofthat movie Encanto the sister.
Yeah, I could just like lift upa donkey and shit Put it on her
shoulders, yeah that was agreat movie.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I love it, we love in kanto.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
We've watched it so many times so she's in kanto in
the 1800s, 1900s but I thinkthat some of that like her
lifting a 200 pound hog likeover her shoulder, let's go pig.
I think that that's just someof the folklore that comes with
this story.
But she for sure could butchera hog and do the whole process

(38:59):
about uh, you know of thebutchering without a bit of help
.
Now, have you ever watched a?
Uh, a pig be butchered?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I butchered pigs.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
You did the whole.
Thing.
You shot it, you bled it out,you scalded it, you dehaired it
Every bit of it.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Okay, I've done every bit of it.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, the first time that I encountered this whole
process.
So my uncle, well, he wasactually like a cousin, but he
was old enough to where youwould refer to him as uncle.
You know, he was like my dad'scousin, right, so he was uncle
him as uncle.
You know, he was like my dad'scousin, right so he was uncle.

(39:38):
So he had a.
That was what he did for aliving.
He butchered him.
One morning I woke up reallyearly.
Uh, my granny lives on hisproperty for uh, quite some time
, about a decade and I woke upreal early and I came out and I
was like what you doing, uncle,hubert?
And um, he was doing the wholeprocess and I was good, like, I
watched him shoot these pigs inthe fucking head.
I watched him boil them, do thething.

(40:00):
But when he strung them up andall them guts came out, I ran
into my granny's house and Ipuked for quite some time and
God bless my little cousins.
We were raised very religiousand they were casting the demons
out of me while I was pukingyeah, you're fucking fully on

(40:23):
and fucking enveloped in thebullshit that was going on
behind you.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
This holy shit, whoa so well.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Bell, she used to be really quite friendly with the
neighbors, but now they were,they were a little scared of her
and she had some cows wanderinto a neighboring farm a little
too often and the head of thatfarm uh got her cows and uh
locked them up and when she wentto retrieve them the man said
you got to pay me a dollar toget them back.

(40:53):
So she paid the money and thenshe did the exact same thing to
him, but the difference was thatshe herded his cattle.
She was an excellent herder.
Ok, she herded his cattle ontoher property and then was like
now you got to pay me a dollar.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
This is a full on fucking human being that knows
how to keep livestock and sheknows how to work a farm.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
She grew up doing it.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, she can work a farm she knows everything that
was what she did growing up yeah, yeah, and I know a little bit
about that because I've beenpart of that.
I've shared crop share and farmshare.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
But you ain't done no full-fledged, functioning,
money-making farm.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
No, no, no, but I know how.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
all the inner workings and I'm going to share
some photos of the farm on ourInstagram.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Drink about something .
Okay, Watch it.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
In late 1904, bell placed an ad for another
farmhand slash companion andthat ad was answered by Olaf
Lindboe.
Now they became close, belleand Olaf, and it was said that
he became her fiancé.
He sent a letter back to hisfather in Norway and said that

(42:13):
he loved the farm and he wasgoing to wed Miss Bell.
Well, when some time passed,her neighbor, chris
Christopherson oh, what the fuck?
Not the singer, not the singer.
This was way before his time.
Yeah, but her neighbor, hisname was Chris Christopherson.
Yeah, his time.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, but her neighbor, his name was Chris.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Kersauverson.
He received word from Bellethat Olaf had taken off in the
middle of plowing season and sheneeded some help.
Well, belle tells Chris thatOlaf had gone off to the World's
Fair and had never come back.
So when Olaf's father wrote, hewrote Belle asking about his

(42:53):
son.
Belle said he had gone west toHomestead.
Olaf had brought some moneywith him to invest into the farm
.
So now Belle, she's added toher stacks, ok.
So then a man named HenryGerholt came to help with the

(43:13):
farm in April of 1905.
Somewhere in 1905.
Okay, he wrote a letter to hisfamily saying that he loved it
there and the house was amazingand he was being treated like he
was family.
So Chris Christopherson, nosyneighbor Chris.
Okay.
So Chris Christopherson, nosyneighbor Chris.

(43:34):
He said that he saw Henryworking and he would go out and
about with Belle quite often.
And then in August, duringharvest season, belle goes to
Chris again asking for helpbecause Henry, he just up and
quit it's like you're buildingthis whole thing that I am so

(43:55):
intrigued so then another ad wasplaced for poor bill.
You know she's, she just needssome help no, she don't.
And she wrote this.
This was her ad.
Okay, comely woman who owns alarge farm in one of the finest
districts of LaPorte County,indiana desires to make the

(44:18):
acquaintance of a gentleman witha view to joining fortunes.
No replies by letter will beconsidered unless the sender is
willing to follow up with ananswer with a personal visit.
Triflers need not applyTrifling big try, that shit had
me fucking dying.

(44:41):
Triflers need not apply bitch,don't, don't be trifling don't
be trifling don't be trifling,okay.
so her mailman would say thatshe got several letters a day
like up to 20 a day in responseto her ad.
The next suitor to come wasGeorge Berry and he showed up

(45:05):
with fifteen hundred dollarsseeking partnership with Bell.
Then Christian Hilgevon soldhis farm and came to seek
partnership with bell and hetells his people that he's going
to marry a rich widow.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
So people are uprooting and fucking bringing
everything they got to thiswoman.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
And then a meal tell from Kansas answered this ad as
well and came to the farm with$2,000.
A guy named John from Minnesotashows up with $1,000.
And now all these guys, they'regone, they have disappeared,
never heard from again.
And this all happens in 1905.

(45:49):
I'm fighting the air.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Fucking, fighting the fucking air and the plant does
not understand and the peacelily is not giving you peace,
lindsey.
I am fighting everything rightnow with all I got and I am
drunk as fuck, but we're notdone yet listen here.
God damn, lindsey.

(46:11):
God damn, I'm gonna take adrink while you're ranting.
Well, you should fucking taketwo, because you need to get on
my level at this point.
Okay, I'm taking two okay, taketwo, take three, take, take two
and call me in the morningbecause I am fucking livid right
now with what the fuck schemethis woman has going on right

(46:35):
now.
And I'm fucking calling itright now, early, and I'm not
calling it because I'm gonnafuck your whole fucking script
and fucking bullshit out overhere.
Let me keep going, let me I'mnot gonna let you keep going for
a fucking second because, allright, fuck it, I'm gonna let
you keep going.
Y'all hang on Fuck.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
George Anderson from Missouri came and he agreed to
pay off Bell's mortgage if theywed.
Well, when he woke up one nightto Bell towering over him and
then she ran off, so did he.
He's like I'm going back toMissouri.
That was fucking creepy as fuck.
Yeah, he literally woke up inthe middle of the night to

(47:17):
bell's big ass.
She was a big woman, she was abit that.
That's a huge bitch what?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
why are you bringing this in here, lindsey?
I'm just saying that was a hugebitch she was like.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
She was like about five, eight in the upper Okay.
So I've heard that she waseither 180 pounds or 280 pounds
and that's a huge difference.
That's a hundred poundsdifference.
The book that I listened to,that I will plug here in a
little bit she was in the uppertwo hundreds, so she was closer
to 300 pounds.
Okay.

(47:53):
So George, okay, fuck.
So George, he's gone, he's backto Missouri, he's safe.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
He's rolling it, dude .
I mean, we're already seeing it.
The whole fucking people thatare hearing this are already
seeing this Fuck.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So men keep coming and none are ever seen leaving.
I mean even George, like hedisappeared.
He's gone, he's safe, he lived.
George Anderson's gone.
But men keep coming and otherskeep leaving and she would refer
to all these men as her cousinsI'm doing air quotes, cousins
and these cousins would havetravel trunks arrive.

(48:30):
You know, cause that's not whatthey did back then.
They would get on the train,their trunks would come.
You know, cause that's not whatthey did back then.
They would get on the train.
Their trunks would come on adifferent train.
You know.
And uh, she had so many trunks.
At one point she had like awhole room dedicated to trunks,
that male suitors, and she had15 in one room and the kids

(48:52):
would ask questions and shewould just say, oh, cousins will
be back for them later.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
cousins will be back for them later, okay, lindsey,
you're building the fuckingcoolest podcast I've ever seen.
Who's done this?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
who has?
A lot, a lot.
This has covered, been covereda lot.
I told you this is the firstpodcast I ever listened to.
A lot, a lot this has covered,been covered a lot.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I told you this is the first podcast I ever
listened to and it was firstriveting.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, the first one that you've heard ever listened
to in my entire sword and scale.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Brought this to you brought this to my life.
I'm just like why haven't Iheard this?
This is so much fuckery.
She's stacking them up formoney.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
She's stacking her money.
She's stacking them trunks.
Just got it going home?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yes, okay, holy fucking shit.
Bags of fucking bullshittery.
Fuck, dude, this is the coolestpodcast I've ever been in.
Keep on riding.
You got like 900 pages to go.
No, not really, we're good, yougot 900.
You got like 900 pages to go.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
No, not really.
We're good we got 900.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You got 999 pages to go Bullshit.
A fucking flip on me and I wantto fucking keep on flipping
back at you.
This is going to be a long one.
Y'all hang on, cause fuck.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
We're about halfway through, we're good.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
So one farmhand named Emil Greening named emile
greening, who was a polishimmigrant.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
So bell had her companion farmhands like her
companion.
Yeah, she wasn't fucking aroundwith that and then she had like
day labors, and so emile waslike a day laborer.
He said that he was instructedto dig some holes for her, some
deep holes for her, near hogpens, and she would tell him
that this was for disposing ofgarbage.
Okay, so now we're in 1906.

(50:40):
Jenny, her adopted daughter,had turned into a beautiful
young lady and a meal.
Her little day laborer, bell'sday laborer, wanted to start
courting Jenny.
Bell's day laborer wanted tostart courting Jenny.
Well, one day Bell tells Emilthat Jenny has gone off to
finish her education inCalifornia, but no one saw her

(51:03):
leave.
This is her daughter.
So Bell said that she hadarranged for a professor from
the school that she was toattend to come and escort her to
that school, but nobody saw theprofessor come or go and nobody
saw Jenny leave.
Put a pin in that.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
No, I don't want to, because we know what a pin in
that we know what's happening?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, after this Bell or not, not Bell, but a meal he
has he really doesn't have adesire to work for Bell anymore.
So he quits and Bell hires thisguy named Ray Lamphere.
Now, ray had been kind of apiece of shit.
He drank, he gambled and heenjoyed the company of older sex

(51:50):
workers.
Well, he and Bell, they wouldbecome lovers.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
This is dirty, do you know?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
that SNL skit Lovers.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
That's one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
So that's with Will Ferrell, the Debbie Downer chick
God, I don't know her name.
And then Jimmy Fallon I lovethe Debbie Downer, yeah.
And then Drew Barrymore so thatwas.
And then Jimmy Fallon I lovethe Sammy Downer, yeah.
And then Drew Barrymore, sothat was.
That was one of Jimmy Fallon'sfirst skits on SNL and that's
when I fell in love with thatdude because he couldn't stop
laughing.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
And he still can't stop laughing to this day.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
All the best skits are when they break.
Yes, yeah.
Jimmy Fallon to me I I startedfollowing jimmy fallon in the
90s and I have followed hiscareer so far.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
No, because he broke the best way.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yes, honestly, because he was just so we can go
back to adam sandler oh yeah,we love adam sandler period, but
like the next generation.
It was just like the nextgeneration when he, when you
seen Jimmy break in, it was justlike that's genuine.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
That was shit, that was gold.
Like I honestly fall in love.
Adam Sandler's SNL time isnothing to me compared to his
movies, but Jimmy Fallon, thatwas when I really first started
watching snl and I, just, youknow, kept going with it yeah,
so dna, though all of them,jimmy.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
All the way back, dude, we go all the way back.
We're old, yes, fuck so back tobell.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Okay, so they're lovers, but at the same time,
belle is exchangingcorrespondence with another
husband, slash farmhand, slashpartner.
His name was Andrew Helglian,yes, and he was from Aberdeen

(53:48):
South Dakota, but he was also aNorwegian immigrant.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So Belle, this girl okay, she laid it on thick in
these letters and correspondenceand she's trying to get this
man to come to her farm, but shealways made sure to tell him at
the end of each letter that heshould not tell anyone that he's
coming, and this would be likean almost 18-month endeavor for

(54:14):
her.
Yeah, she puts in the work forAndrew.
I don't know why, because she'sstill getting lots of responses
from other people, but shewants Andrew.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Really yeah.
So she's folding all these guysthat are popping in and they
disappear.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
They got money, they show up.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
She gets the money and you don't ever hear from
them.
Fuckers again, deuces, fuck.
So in the meantime, while she'scorresponding with Andrew, an
elderly widower showed up withsome cash.
I think his name was Ola.
He showed up with some cash andI think his name was Ola.
He showed up with some cash andhe was never seen again.
And when his sons figured outwhere he had gone to, they wrote

(55:00):
Belle and asked where theirfather was and Belle said well,
I haven't seen him.
And she continues to writeAndrew and even offered to make
him all kinds of yummy foods,especially cream pudding.
Now, I don't know what the fuckcream pudding is.
I should have Googled it and Iwant to get a recipe, because

(55:21):
this bitch talked about creampudding a lot.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I want some.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I will make you cream pudding.
Yeah, she was, the creampudding was the selling point.
I think it was a selling point.
I think, yeah, yeah, I wantsome.
So she would also call him herone and only best friend.
Okay, so in january 1908,andrew finally shows up.

(55:51):
Now he had been ill a couple oftimes, you know, he had been
going through some shit.
He planned on visiting Belle.
Belle finally, like, gave himthe dear John letter.
Like, motherfucker, if youdon't get here soon, this
arrangement is off, oh off.
And uh, yeah, no, she's like,this arrangement is off, okay

(56:13):
that's better.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I was like looking at you and I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
This isn't happening and all this time, like I mean
she, like Ola, has already comeand gone.
He's disappeared.
We don't know where the fuck heis.
And then, when Andrew shows up,belle kicked Ray, her other
farmhand that she's been a lover, lovers with.
Okay, she kicks him right thefuck out and said you sleep in

(56:36):
the bond.
Now you sleep in the bond.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
She didn't offhand though.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Andrew, he gets your room.
You go to the bond.
Yes, complete control, completecontrol, control.
Andrew and Bell.
They head down to the bank tocash in some deposit
certificates.
Well, andrew, he's only been intown about three days so far.
He showed up right, he's gotthem certificates.

(57:03):
He's ready to get Belle hermoney, the money has showed up,
not him.
But they were told that itwould take a few days for that
to happen, like four or fivedays for him to be able to
retrieve the actual value of themoney.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Oh, she's got to wait this time, okay.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
And Belle was pissed and tried to argue, but it was
what it was and they returnedabout three days after the money
arrived, Like the bank tellersaid that she had been pissed
and then it seemed like theyweren't in any hurry.
It was weird to the bank teller.

(57:40):
I'm holding back right now.
But when the money arrived andthey show up to get it three
days after it had arrived,Andrew, he was a little ill.
Now they collected the $2,800in 1908 money.
Okay, they collected the $2,800and went back to the farm and

(58:05):
Andrew, can you guess he fuckingdied.
No, he was never seen again,yeah whatever the equivalent of
died.
And he had kept true to his wordand he didn't tell anyone of
his plans to come to Belle'sfarm.
Now his brother Azul, he startsto worry about him, so he

(58:29):
starts investigating a littlebit and he finds all these
letters from bell, I mean, andlike I said, this bitch laid it
on thick I'm gonna plug the bookat the end.
Yeah, that I listened to and youguys, you gotta listen to it
because it, uh, they go intodetail about bell's letters that
I could not write that all inthis script.

(58:50):
I just couldn couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
So our whistleblower is showing up, right, do I feel
like it?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Not really All right.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Somebody's showing up , let me tell that story.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Okay, god, okay, all right.
So on February 3rd 1908, belleand Ray.
They get into a huge fight.
Now, ray was her former lover,still a farmhand, but he either
quits or he is fired.
And Belle, she hires anotherhand named Joe Maxon.

(59:21):
So Ray goes and he talks to anattorney about some unpaid wages
from Belle.
She gets ahead of the narrativea little bit.
She says Ray is crazy, he's amenace and he is harassing and
threatening me and he's stalkingme.
And she had him arrested aboutthree times and one of those

(59:41):
arrests like they they psyche,eval him.
Ray goes through some shit.
Okay, azel Andrew's brother.
He writes to Belle inquiringabout his brother's whereabouts
and Belle writes him back andsaid well, I would like to know
where he is too.
All she knew that he waslooking for his other brother

(01:00:03):
who I think was in New Yorksomewhere doing some shit in
April.
She, the teacher of the Gunnesskids, would later say that the
girls had come in crying afterreceiving quite a beating from
their mom when she caught themplaying near the cellar door.
So what's you hiding in thatcellar though, belle?

(01:00:27):
She's going by Belle yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
So her machine is just so fucking big that she can
control and manipulate thewhole fucking system.
She's got it figured out thatfast.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Well, I have to assume that the strict
investigations behind lifeinsurance policies were probably
started because of Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, oh, for sure.
We're probably started becauseof bill.
Yeah, oh, for sure.
And that's where I was likewe're fighting later because I
want to pull the plug on all thebullshit right off.
Rip and you're like fuck you,Shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I want to tell my story but I do have a long one
and I try to make it not a twoparter.
Yeah, cause I've got a big oneto cover in September and, by
the way, you guys happySeptember and this is my
birthday month, Fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I done.
Bought you a gift already.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Oh, you have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, and you're literally in the presence of it,
but you don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I don't know it.
And I like to be surprised,isn't?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
that cool, so shut the hell up.
No, I'm just saying you're inthe fucking room of it right now
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And backstory.
Jesse likes to give awaysurprises really early and I'm
like stop it.
I like to be surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Have I not given you the best fucking birthdays ever?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
yeah, jesse has given me surprise birthday parties
twice, two times Three, no twice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
We did.
Your 30th was amazing.
That wasn't a surprise though.
We did your 30th.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I wasn't surprised, though we planned that quite a
bit in advance, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Okay, we've done so many cool fucking parties.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yes, we've done some cool shit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah, soft birthday party.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yes, super soft.
You got to look up Letterkennyor you got to watch Letterkenny.
Find the Super Soft Birthday,because that's what I had for my
40th.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
And then we did another one that was just like
all your friends, everybodyshowed up to my favorite Mexican
restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It was amazing, because it was weird too,
because we had planned on adifferent restaurant and Jesse's
like babe, I've really beenfeeling that meal that we always
get at El Paso.
Do you think we should do thatfor your birthday?
I don't.
He was like I don't want totake away from your, but I was
like, fuck yeah, bitch, I willeat at El Patro's anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Anytime and everybody was there when, when we showed
up, all my friends were there,like I almost passed out.
Yeah, sometimes when we showedup, all my friends were there
Like I almost passed out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Yeah, Sometimes, honestly, Lindsay, I plan your
birthday parties eight monthsahead of time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Is that bad?
Well, don't do that, because Idon't want to do another big one
until I'm 50.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Don't say, don't do that, because I'm allowed to,
because I'm going to do a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Sally O'Malley party, because I'm going to be 50.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
That's our next one, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
That's our next one.
Yeah, that's my next, from hereuntil 50, which is years from
now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Yeah, we don't need big birthdays until then?
No, but I've planned yourbirthday parties months, half a
year ahead, ahead of time andyou're the absolute tits for
that.
Yeah well, in this fucking potright now, your story is fucking
absolute.
All right, let's get back to it.
All right, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
So Bella is still claiming that Ray is harassing
her and she's spreading thataround town and she says that
she fears Ray will set fire toher house and murder her
children.
Okay, hey, you listen?
Are you paying attention?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
The whole time is fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
So on April 28th she talks to a lawyer we're in 1908,
by the way.
Okay, april 28th she talks to alawyer and says that she fears
for her life and she wants tomake a will, leaving everything
for her children.
She then buys some candy andsome cakes at the general store,
along with some kerosene.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Joe Maxson says that they had a big dinner that night
and he went to bed firstbecause he's been working all
day long.
You know he's the farmhand andI shit you not Really.
In the middle of the night hewakes up and the house is on
fire and I set fire to the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Watch it burn.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
So, joe, he tries to get out of his room, but the
fire is too thick and it's toodense, the roof is starting to
collapse.
So he jumps from the secondstory window and he runs like he
jumps down from second storywindow and runs into town.
But it was too late.
What?

(01:05:07):
There was nothing left butbrick walls, ash and soot and
the bodies of three children,myrtle, lucy and Philip, all in
their beds, and a woman, and thewoman who was assumed to be
Belle.
Of course her head was gone.
So, sheriff Schmutzler, he wascalled immediately, immediately,

(01:05:32):
and he went off to find RayLamphere, because this was
exactly what Bell was sayingthat he was going to do.
One guy said that he had beenwatching the fire from the road
and said that he saw Ray runaway from the house.
But Ray actually, actually, infact, had an alibi he was in the

(01:05:53):
comfort and company of anelderly black woman that night,
which, uh, actually made himseem more guilty at that time,
because you know, yeah, forfuck's sake right.
So he was arrested and chargedwith arson and murder.

(01:06:14):
Well, volunteers in the area,they they wanted to search for
Bell's head, because why thefuck was her head cut off Right?
And neighbors would say thatthe body was too small to be
Bell's Ooh was too small to beBell's Ooh.

(01:06:35):
This was the body of a womanwho was 5'2 and about 150 pounds
, whereas Bell was 5'7 to 5'8and weighed about 200 pounds to
300 pounds.
It was reported that the bodyin question contained lethal
doses of strychnine.
Fuck, of course.
Well, they would never findBell's head.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Bell done dipped.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
But guess what they would find?
Okay, I'm ready the murderedand dismembered bodies of Andrew
Heglian, jenny Olsen we'refighting two unidentified
children and many, many moreFull-on leg wrestling Later.

(01:07:24):
There were so many bodies thatBell's Carriage House became a
makeshift morgue.
Oh my God, many of these bodiesor body parts, we'll say had
been wrapped in burlap sackswhen they were, like they had
been buried for so long thattheir flesh had become like

(01:07:47):
jelly.
The amount of bodies totaldiscovered is not really known,
but it is said to have been 12.
And it is believed that Billhad about 40 victims.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Lindsay, Lindsay, I've gone to the plant.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Pray to the peace lily gods over there.
Okay, I, I'm gonna let you soakthat in for a minute give me a
second.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I'm verklempt.
I'm verklempt.
I'm over here talking aboutlike seven to eight
motherfuckers and you donepulled out a whole ass fucking
pile of motherfuckers and wedon't need all these
motherfuckers.
And they done died up in thismotherfucker and this is a
horrific ass motherfucker up inyour motherfucking fucking

(01:08:40):
fucker.
Lindsay, are you kidding meright now?
This really fucking happened inthis motherfucker.
I'm sorry, samuel ass fuckingmotherfucking Jackson and his
motherfucker, but motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
So this obviously made headlines everywhere and
the story of Hell's Bell, theBlack Widow of the Midwest, the
Butcher of Men, the LadyBluebeard or Hell's Princess,
spread like wildfire and Hell'sPrincess is the name of the

(01:09:20):
audio book that I listened toabout this case.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
But what about ACDC?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Hell's Bell.
They were talking about fuckingBell Gunn.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
I don't know but what I mean ACDC has fucking a song
called hell's bell.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Yes, they do are you fucking kidding me right now?
This is the fucking mosthorrific thing so far.
No, honestly, body count,everything count hold on, let me
get there.
You ain't there yet.
I ain't there yet.
I got to keep going.
I'm I'm torn to the plant overhere.

(01:09:59):
You see me, I'm looking at overhere and our peace lily has
bloomed over here by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Well, we've already talked about that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Okay, I'm getting over here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
So, ray, he would go on to be tried for the arson and
the murders, but would only beconvicted for the arson.
The bodies that were recoveredwere said to have been murdered
and dismembered with absoluterage.
Jesse, she then got them.
Most of them had defensivewounds, and after they had been

(01:10:34):
chopped up, it was said that thebones, and like the bone end
pieces, had been hammered down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
She just kept on fucking going, didn't she?
I'm saying she, I don't know,but like I feel like full on she
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
It was she, it was she, it was she, it was she, it
was she, it was a whole bell.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
This is a whole lot.
Okay, I'm going back to theplant I need.
I need a plant dude, I need aplant.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Robert.
Well, there was definitelyspeculation and now legend that
bell killed her whole family andgot away.
There have been recordingsightings of her throughout
history and one woman was evenarrested on suspicion of her
being Belle, but it was foundthat she wasn't.

(01:11:26):
Now Belle's farm that becamequite the attraction for some
time.
After this Admission wascharged popcorn, charged popcorn
, candy, ice cream and cake.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
They were served to spectators for her fucking farm
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yes, listen, listen, wait people were having picnics
with their families at thismurder farm and people would
take dirt from the grave sitesas souvenirs.
Fuck what the fuck, no, like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Okay, you're pulling in Belle, the name Belle.
There's a Tennessee Belle thatwe need to pull in later on.
Okay, the Belle Witch Caveshave you heard about that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
No, I'll dig into it though.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Okay, y'all need to check that shit out About a
witch that had a cave that didher old thing in Tennessee, the
whole Bell Witch Cave thing.
Right, I think it was Tennessee.
I may be wrong.
Maybe later on we'll do that,but the Bell fucking name is
just in my soul.

(01:12:35):
She's killed over like 40people and that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I mean, like I said, we know of 12 body parts, but
let me keep going, okay, we'realmost saying right now I feel
like it's way more than thatit's a shit ton.
So I mean, like I said, thiswoman had had some game for a
woman that had been described asa stout woman with a frog's
mouth and grotesquely small feet.

(01:13:04):
Frog's mouth Now Ray.
Like I said, he was convictedon the arson but not the murders
.
Ray would die about a yearlater.
I think it was of tuberculosisI didn't write it down, but I'm
pretty sure that that's what itwas.
But before he died he confessedthat he had been an accomplice

(01:13:24):
for Bell's murders and that shedid get away.
Really.
He said that she would poisonthe suitors with strychnine or
chloroform them, she would bashtheir heads in and take them
down to the cellar fordismemberment.
She would then either bury themor feed them to the hogs.

(01:13:47):
So you know that a hog is goingto eat everything.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
If you're not from the South or have not heard
about what pigs can do, theywill eat everything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, it was a perfect ass scheme that she had,
and thousands of fuckingdollars are coming in.
Oh my God, she's playing thesystem Now.
He fucking great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Now.
He did confirm that theheadless woman found in the fire
was not Belle.
No, but it was a housekeeperthat was sent to her from
Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Lindsay, we all knew that Bitch.
We all knew that.
I ain't trying to call younothing derogatory, but we're
leg wrestling.
Later you called me bitch, likethe last podcast, and that is
the story the whole story legendof bell guns.
There ain't no legend behindthat, lindsay, and I just want

(01:14:44):
to say holy fuckery on yourstory, holy ass fuckery dude, I
cannot grasp this at this dude.
I cannot grasp this at thismoment.
I cannot grasp it.
It is insane 18 early 1900swell it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I mean, it is believed that it started in the
late 1800s because, like I said,she was impregnated out of
wedlock and that guy died fromarsenic poisoning.
It was just complete fucking.
So we don't know.
There are certain things we'llnever know because we don't have
what we have now.
It was scams on top of scams,and she knew Now, later on later

(01:15:27):
on in recent years her DNA wastested because there was a
jawbone found in the rubble andher dentist confirmed that that
was that work that was done onthat jawbone was some of his
work.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Why haven't I heard this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
But recent year DNA testing has been done and
there's still no conclusion thatthat was bell this woman
grabbed all her shit and dippedthe fuck out yeah, that's what I
mean.
She had like the equivalent ofsix million dollars saved.
Hang on today's money wait afucking minute.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
So she grabbed all this money, killed, killed every
fucking body, everybody, anddipped out of the hog farm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Including her kids.
Now a lot of people wonderedwhy?
Why the fuck were you killedJenny?
Well, it was speculated that,you know, Jenny had become quite
the beautiful young woman.
Yeah, and it was either saidthat either Jenny knew too much
or she was now competition forbell suitors.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Oh yeah so the the crazy spin on all of this is the
deep-seated fucking parts thatare all played into all of this
that's happening.
So so many moving parts, somuch debauchery, and she's just
like constantly bringing insuitors and fucking them up,
constantly Taking their fuckingmoney, taking them out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Fuck.
Lindsay this is, and puttingthem in, either the holes that
she had had dug by her farmhandsor the hogs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
How would you think that this was a real thing in
the early 1900s at a fucking pigfarm from an immigrant or
migrant, whatever.
Immigrant, immigrant that camein and created something coming
up full-on American fuckingdream and just fucking played

(01:17:29):
the system at the same time.
I mean she had game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
They said that she purred like a kitten in the
bedroom.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Oh, I meant she did Kitty kitty.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
But like fuck, dude, and like I said, I'm going to
post pictures of Belle in ourstories, so make sure you follow
us on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Drink About.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Something and on our website drink about something,
about sites, our socials, JesseSamba, Lindsay Samba See the
plant that Lindsay yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Turning to over here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
It's beautiful.
Today is fucking.
It has been blooming and I loveit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
And if you notice in the background, I've got so one
of the grand babies that stayedthe night.
Last night they jerked on ourgrandbaby snake plant, yeah, so
we've got it propped up with astraw and a hair clip.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
It's a snake plant.
That is our grandchild.
That's what makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yes, it's a grandbaby snake plant.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
When we first moved here, not long after we got in
and we started a snake plant andit died all the way and I
replanted it and it's stillliving.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yes, it's still living.
We got a straw.
It's the grand baby sprout.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Because we decided to go ham at Arby's and we got an
Arby's straw holding on to oursnake plant.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
We used all the coupons at Arby's last night.
But fuck's sake, lindsay, andshout out to Lake City, florida.
Arby's, all of our food wasdelicious.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Some true crime just happened there too, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
What.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Oh yes, it did.
Yeah, a shooting at our Arby'sthat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Arby's had a shooting not too long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
For fuck's sake, god damn, for fuck's sake, goddamn,
we should cover that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Well, I'll talk about that in our recap for next week
.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
True crime.
True crime happened at ourArby's with a straw that's
holding up our snake plant overhere.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
You will see in the background of our picture on
Instagram that will be posted onFriday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Yes, we will Plug it, Pluggy and Sherry, Sherry and
all the cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
And give us a review.
That's what we're talking aboutright, jesse, what band are you
plugging today?

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
I have a band you do.
I have a band, we almost forgotabout the damn band because
we're literally.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
My jesse is so intrigued by this story he is
y'all.
He is riveted right now is isthis on our break, on our yes.
On our bathroom breaks.
He has been like what the fuck,lindsay, this is the best shit
you've ever told me in your life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
So there's some early 1900s shit that happened in
Lake City with Al Capone, that Iwant to share, but anyhow it
wasn't that early though Lovethat period.
It wasn't that early.
No, it was the 30s.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
So not early, early, but mid-early, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Anyhow, it was in the Depression era.
Yeah, I want to share this band, though it's called Zim Zim.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Okay, let me find them on Instagram.
Check out Zim real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
And this song is called Jiggy Juice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
So let's listen to this song, and then, at the end,
I will tell you where you canfind them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Let's listen to this song and then at the end I will
tell you where you can find themyou know where they're from.
Where are they?

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
from Harlem, oh shit, yeah, new York City, and they
are a part of the MandalayWorldwide Artist Development
Group that I hooked up with, andyou guys need to check that
shit out.
I find development groups and,like, I mean, we started with

(01:20:56):
all this and all the bands fromanother group that shared so
many bands to us and it's justsharing.
That's what we want to do.
That is exactly what we want todo.
So this song is called JiggaJuice and I want you guys to
check that shit out.
And I'm a little drunk, I ain'tgonna lie.

(01:21:17):
Slurry, slurry, because Lindsayhas me fucked up over this one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
So check this song out.
Thank you Before the lights goout.
Give a seat before the sun diesdown.
What I was born with is all Igot right now.
The richest man ain't therichest man, come fuck with me.
I got a master plan, this gunclappin' and don't need no hands
.
Don't really need a gang.
I'm by my Wu-Tang clan.

(01:22:05):
Was only gone for a second.
Shit started gettin' hectic,brought bad, so I left it.
Tryna make one more effort, buta nigga, so effin'.

(01:22:28):
I'm getting like me, catch ahit like me, want the good like
me, and I'll be here foreverSaying that you love me won't
change me.
Did you really think that wewas gonna last?
I wasn't wanting on me.

(01:22:49):
Now I'm nothing.
Left each other, hurt, trying toget to the back, let alone a
nice juice, and you're tearingdown the roof.
You ain't being optimistic,trying to give me time and yeah,
I missed it, ain't you?

(01:23:09):
You don't even like that word.
You don't feel it too?
This way, I'm not your girl andyou're committed.
The money's what you prefer,and I take it how you said it,
cause you meant every word.
So dead for nothing, nowhere ofintention.
You ain't have my best in mind,babe.
You cut off connections, wantedenergy.

(01:23:30):
You quit all that cussing.
If you would've told me that,then you cut off connections.
Want your energy.
You paid all that coffee.
If you wouldn't tell me that,then you wouldn't get my loving.
And you know that Bitches ain'tsmart like me, cause I'm
smarter Teaching young hatersthat I feel like I'm your father

(01:23:55):
In a man's world.
But the bitches go no harder.
Thank you, I'm all right.
Pass the ice chicken juice andI got a surprise, cause bitches
ain't good like me.
Catch a hit like me, want thefeel like me, and I'll be here

(01:24:20):
forever.
I pick up fast, stay low, stopand go.
Just let you know that I'm allright.

(01:24:41):
Pass the ice chicken juice andI got a surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
That is the epitome of what we are about, Lindsay
Just sharing bands, all cultures, all everything.
I love it and spending thattime with reaching out to so
many different artists that wantto put their music out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I love it.
Yes, that was a really coolsong and okay.
So if you want to find thisband, you can find them at
Mandalay Worldwide, which isM-A-N-D-A-L-A-E underscore
worldwide, and the artist isKeziah K-E-Z-I-A-H.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Is where, yes, it's like so follow Mandalay
Worldwide.
And then you click on atofficial underscore Zim, yes,
and that's where you find thesinger.
Yeah, they're just starting up,they're just getting going.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Brand new, brand new Artist development stuff.
So if you dig the stuff, followit, support, follow all the
links.
It's so new and it's so amazing.
I love the divide, the wholefucking thing, and I've seen the
video.
They have this whole artistdevelopment thing going on and

(01:26:14):
there's like a skateboardingthing, there's this whole little
thing that I seen.
It was just like this isfucking beautiful.
Art is beautiful.
It is Music is art Amazing, andI love every bit of all of it
Absolutely, so I want to embraceit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
That's why we're here to support I want to embrace it
.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Check it all out and this story period.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Stay tuned for our recap on this one on Wednesday.
For fuck's sake.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
So immigrant woman came over, fucked around a whole
lot of fuckery and then had apig farm and then fucked around
a whole lot more fuckery and now, if you want like deep, deep
ass details of the trial of RayLamphere, check out that book

(01:27:03):
that I read.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
There was way too many details for me to put into
this story.
That's what I was talking about, so I wrapped it up real tight,
but yeah, so it's about six toeight hours somewhere in there I
bet that audio book it's calledhell's princess you'll get a
lot of details on what ray wentthrough.
Yeah, because she was playinglike insurance.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
She was, oh yeah, just people getting them in,
getting their money, fuckingthem up.
You know what's funny Feedingthem to pigs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Fuck One podcaster that I listened to that did
cover this story.
Every time there was a come upfor her he would play like
little snippets of moving on up,moving on up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Yeah, every fucking time.
Yeah every time.
How could that fucking not bemy genius?

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
And see, he can only play a few.
Moving on up, he can only playa few.
He can only play like secondsof it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
So you don't get.
You know, fine with copyrightshit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
But I really enjoyed.
Yeah, I think his name was DanCummings that guy who didn't
watch that shit at our age.
Fuck, oh my God, fucking withthe Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Every bit of all.
I can do.
The walk I can do George.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Jefferson's walk.
Yeah and Wheezy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Wheezy, wheezy, hey, wheezy.
Every bit of all that is DNA.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
And she was like I don't like when you call me
Wheezy, because you know I gotasthma bitch.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Tell your husband not to call you out on your fucking
disabilities and then, at thesame time, with all that
bullshit going on, archie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Bunker with that.
Well, they had a crossover.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
That's what I'm talking about.
So it's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Archie Bunker's racist fucking boomer ass.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Nobody gave actual fuck that was.
That was the end of, that wasthe literally end of all that
bullshit was that time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
But you know, okay, so I love all in the family
which is archie bunker, yeah,and edith and all that shit,
yeah, but I really love his role, which is what I grew up
watching was, uh, in the heat ofthe night, that was some true
crime like this was likehonestly, the 90s TV shows is
where it started, I had Rescue911, I had Unsolved Mysteries

(01:29:20):
with Robert Schacht.
That shit was iconic and Icouldn't sleep a lot.
And then In the Heat of theNight, which was a fictional
show, but it was definitelybased but his voice.
And then in the heat of thenight, which was a fictional
show, right, it was definitelybased on true crime.
And then, um, god, there was,there was another one I think

(01:29:42):
everybody started with.
What else did I watch with?

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
unsolved mysteries.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I think everybody, anybody that was yeah, that
watched tv in the 90s period,whether you being an adult,
because my me and my dad watchthat shit together, so, and he's
a boomer, my dad's a boomer,yeah, and, um, you know, I'm a
millennial I'm an eldermillennial, this was part of it.
So if you're post unsolvedmysteries, let us know oh yeah,

(01:30:09):
that's why this shit's a bigdeal now.
That's why true.
Shit's a big deal now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
That's why true crime's a big deal.
It is Post-Unsolved Mysterypeople that are listening to our
fucking podcast.
I want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Well, because this shit wasn't covered as widely
Like everybody wants to.
Like I said, I'm here to debunkthe good old days Like there's
no such thing, no Period, nosuch thing, no.
Like I said, if you had goodold days, that means you had a

(01:30:41):
great childhood.
She dove back to the fuckingearly 1900s, late 1800s.
This is what blew my mind.
There were insurance scams asearly how, as I mean, this bitch
came to america in 1881.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Maybe she is the fucking full-on reason why she
is, I mean honestly so bell,gunness bell gunness is one bell
.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Gunness is one of the most um.
What is the word that I'mlooking for?
Plurific.
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
that's not right horrific, not horrific, but all
the horrific.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
She is one of the biggest body count of women
serial killers yeah, top notchin history that we know of,
right well there's more, I meanoh, there's more.
There's body count of womenserial killers yeah, top notch
In history that we know of.
Right, well, there's more.
I mean, oh, there's more,there's more.
One day we're going to coverold Bloody Mary, bloody Mary and
we're going to make.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
We're going to make a Bloody Mary while we're
covering Bloody Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Oh yeah, that's going to be a brunch episode.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
We may do it live.
We just came out with a livething.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Yeah.
So if you, if you checked outour recap, our Wednesday recap,
it is video.
It is audio or not video it is.
Yeah, it's our faces.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
So we're going to do audio on everything.
Check it out on YouTube, videoon YouTube and then.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Jesse is actually going to make that audio as well
.
For those of you who don'twatch audio or watch video,
excuse me, so it as well.
For those of you who don'twatch audio or watch video,
excuse me, so it will be onyoutube and it will be on your
regular podcast feed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Yeah, so more work for me so much yes, more work.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Well, you only got to do one this week.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
That well, technically two yeah yeah, so
more work for me.
I don't mind it and that's okayand it's new for me.
I put in.
Look at this, this is a newchallenge for me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Waving my notes in this face, fl.
This, this is a new challengefor me, waving my notes in his
face.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Flicking your papers at me and we're going to leg
wrestle later.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
And I just I want to go ahead and say that the next
case we're going to cover isgoing to be at least two,
possibly three parts, and it ishorrific.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
So be ready, I'm going to go ahead and give a
blanket trigger warning for thisnext case that I'm going to do.
It's terrible, it's horrible,but it needs to be talked about,
and you know, I gotta makeJesse just puddle in the plant
has so much abuse and then whenthat's over, we're going to go
to New England and we're goingto cover somebody completely

(01:32:52):
different from New England.
We're going to go to NewEngland and we're going to cover
somebody completely differentExactly From New England.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
We're going to New England, so follow all of that
and I'm so excited for that.
Thank you, zim, for your artand thank you, mandalay
Worldwide for fucking makingthis happen.
Dude, all of you that aretrying to put out music, hit us
up absolutely.
We are here to support period itis the the best art period I

(01:33:19):
love pictures, I love, I love, Ilove paintings, I love
everything that is artwork, butmusic as far as a art form, baby
, it's the best speaking ofwhich, I did discover a museum
of bad art that I would reallylove to visit while we're in
boston I know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
So follow me on tiktok uh, so you can uh stay
tuned for that coverage, and inuh, so we leave out on that
journey for new england onseptember 26th.
So follow me, drink aboutsomething.
Pod underscore lindsey ontiktok for coverage on that
journey for New England onSeptember 26th.
So follow meDrinkAboutSomethingPod
underscore Lindsay on TikTok forcoverage on that shit, and
Jesse will be reposting as well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
We're fucking sharing everything we can, so
DrinkAboutSomethingsite all ofour personals.
Deftones has a new fuckingalbum.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah, we still haven't listened to that shit.
What's wrong with us?

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Why I've heard like two songs we're gonna listen to
it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Yeah fucking, but now we gotta need we gotta we gotta
go enjoy some dinner, we gottasober you up boo-boo, so you can
have another drink.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
I need to.
I need to.
Oh fuck, mud vein has a newsong out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
There's so much new shit lauren ashore has new songs
out that I'm completely fuckingdigging alex is over there
doing his shit over there atslaughter tripperville.
Every fucking week all newcrazy ass fucking covers and
crazy ass songs and I don't haveit off the top of my head, but
I did discover a new band uh, anew deathcore band that I really
love and I will plug that inour recap we're gonna hit them

(01:34:45):
up see if we can get them onthis podcast right, yes, love
you, zim.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
love all the bands that we do.
Check out all the bands.
We're going to have a recap onour 50th coming up.
There's so much cool shitcoming, so stay tuned.
Share with all your friends andlike, subscribe the whole
fucking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
And definitely review us so we can get into the
algorithm.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Yeah, and there's a joke that I told way back I want
to send you some merch.
So if you want to follow thatand find the joke that I've been
talking about, fucking, I'mgoing to send you some merch.
Dude, I'm and the the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Adam Sandler.
The Happy Gilmore, yeah, thecount on all the flask, on all
the flask, yes, and HappyGilmore to don't cheat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
I want to know the fucking full on yes.
Count of how many flasks floodus with your emails yes and dms,
we want it.
We want it.
Yes, I want to send you merch.
I want to send you merch.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Yeah, we want to send you speaking of merch, we just
purchased from big steppen andjennifer turpin this this week.
Yes and uh, we're gonna postpictures, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Holy fuck dude.
We tagged him.
We purchased from Aaron Goodwinand.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Jennifer Turpin.
Aaron Goodwin is the survivorof a hit put out on him, and
Jennifer Turpin is the survivorof parents that abused and
starved her.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
All horrific.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
And make sure you read her book when was God,
because that is one of the bestbooks I have read so far this
year.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
So all the horrific things you got me pointing to
the plant again already, andit's blooming.
All of these fucking storiesover this plant is just
absorbing all of my oh, my Godand fuckery that you have put on
me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
This plant is going to reach to the ceiling by the
time you give it all of yourenergy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
This is the strongest fucking plant in the in the
galaxy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
I swear to god no you'll notice in the picture,
there's a little ouija boardbehind it too.
But oh yeah, it's just from tjmaxx, it's whatever.
Yeah, it's whatever, it'swhatever it's whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
We'll see you guys next friday though yes, we're
something new.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Uh, it's gonna be a start of a series, lindsey, you
have poured some fucking shit onme and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
It is just fucking the tits.
1800s, early 1900s holy fuckery, I love you to death.
We will see you guys nextfriday.
Check us all out bye.

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