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September 12, 2025 82 mins

When neighbors described David Parker Ray as a friendly, helpful mechanic, they had no idea about the soundproof trailer parked on his property—a meticulously designed torture chamber he called his "toy box."

From the moment his father began supplying him with sadomasochistic pornography as a child, Ray's path toward becoming one of America's most terrifying predators was set in motion. His mechanical aptitude, which earned him respect in various jobs across the Southwest, would ultimately serve a darker purpose: constructing elaborate torture devices for his countless victims.

In this first installment of our two-part series, we explore Ray's development from troubled child to sadistic predator, raising uncomfortable questions about what creates monsters and how they hide in plain sight. The story serves as a stark reminder that behind seemingly ordinary facades can lurk unimaginable horrors—leaving us to wonder how many other David Parker Rays might be living among us, waiting for their opportunity to strike.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Jesse.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yes, Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What are you drinking today?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
A little number seven on the rocks over here, and
then I got this over here, andthen I got something over there.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, well, they can't see you, so explain
yourself.
Oh, it's a Vista.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Bay.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Vista Bay.
What flavor.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hard seltzer Is it cranberry Raspberry?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Raspberry, it's one of the berries.
Raspberry Raspberry holy fuck.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Stevie nicks wrote that no no it's not no.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Who?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
wrote that.
Oh, she wrote the fucking, uh,the red corvette song she didn't
write that.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Jesse, you didn't listen to stevie nicks's story
we were sleeping during that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm sorry, but and then jack daniels on the on the
rock, hold on disclaimer stevienicks did not write any Prince
songs.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
What Prince wrote a Stevie Nicks song?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's what it was.
So we went to a Stevie Nickssong and I'm going to ask you
what you drink in here in just asecond.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We went to a Stevie Nicks song.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We went to a Stevie Nicks concert.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Song.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, there was only one song, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, there was only one song.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, it was Red Corvette by Stevie Nicks.
I'm lying, I'm lying, so lying.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
But we were tired.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Why no, we weren't tired, we literally got off work
and went to Jacksonville.
Okay, we were tired, but shesung us To sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was a whiskey lullaby because we went up and
got.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We got drinks, Then we Let me reframe, let me
explain.
We went to Stevie Nicks.
We only drifted off whilelistening to her, never went
full asleep.
We just kind of I laid my headon his shoulder and he laid his
head on my head.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It was cute.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And she sang softly.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
She's a witch and she knew that we were the only two
fucking people in that wholestadium.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
She knew that we needed to rest, and we only, and
it was only like, uh, closedeyes through one song type thing
, other than that we werestanding up, we were hollering,
we were like honestly, we turned, we returned all the way up and
then there was just like thatlow moment and I wouldn't call
it a low moment that was whatlala, lala, lala.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yes, yeah, her witchy poo vibes.
It was great.
It was great.
I think about that so much.
That concert, for some reason Ithink about so much.
Oh, I do too.
But, it's hard to actually pickout points and parts.
It was just all one big vibe,the whole aura of where we were.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
She was on her, she was doing her stories tour, so
she was telling us storiesbehind every song that she wrote
.
Yeah, and telling it like sheeven told us about the whole
everything behind her andLindsay Buckingham's nude photo
on their first album, aFleetwood Mac Like it was a

(02:39):
really good.
It was a really good show and Iremember every minute of it,
even the part where we weresleeping.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Obviously, I don't Maybe I only remember while I
was sleeping.
That's the only song I remember, minute of it, even the part
where we were sleeping.
Obviously I don't.
Maybe I only remember while Iwas sleeping.
That's the only song I remember.
What are you drinking overthere, by the way?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So I have made a rattle cup.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You got you a concoction.
I do, you're already makingpotions right now, and it's not
even Halloween yet.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I know Well, it's Halloween in this house we
decorated last night.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I Halloween, yet I know?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, it's Halloween in this house.
We decorated last night, sookay, so I've got blue ice vodka
water.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, so I found a knockoff version of Alani's at
Aldi and they're delicious, so Igot a watermelon earlier.
It was good yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So I got a watermelon one of those mixed in with a uh
, a sparkling yeah so water,water, water malone and vodka
yeah, fuck yeah, sparkling water, water malone and a sparkling
cup in a sparkly cup with anumbrella on top you are bougie
as fuck right now well, silasgot this out of, uh, that

(03:41):
villains activity book.
One of villains activity book.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
One of the stories did it.
He don't need it.
We got that.
I got that for you, I know.
Anyhow, we're so decoratedright now I'm looking at like it
looks like a theme park in ourliving room.
Honestly, our whole house ofHalloween is.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
And it smells so fucking good Like caramel and
pumpkin and spice and vanilla,like all.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I even broke out the beard oil.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and I'm wearing .

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Tip the tongue, the teeth lift.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I'm wearing pumpkin glaze.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You do smell good, but smell this, which one?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
are you wearing the Harvester?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, it's called Tip the Tongue, the Teeth Lift.
No, it's not.
Which one is that?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't know the teeth of lips.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Which one is that?
Ben and I gotta, gotta, gotta,gotta, gotta.
Which one is that it's theHarvester.
It is the Harvester.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
From Fable yeah, From Fable Beard Company.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's good If you got a beard or if your man has a
beard, buy him.
Fable anything, yes, do it.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
And if you're a man that's listening to this and you
have a female friend that likesfemale fragrance, or anybody
that likes female fragrance.
Either way, both ways you'rehaving a hard time saying female
fragrance.
I am too female fragrancefemale fragrance fragrances you
gotta you gotta puff the thenostrils out when you say it so

(04:58):
fable has a female line too, andit's phenomenal yes, what are
we drinking about?
So today we are drinking abouta man named david ray parker.
But for before we get into thestory, if you're new here.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yes, we have drinks and I don't know shit.
And lindsey likes to tellstories and fucking destroy me
and at the end of it and theirtrue stories.
I plug a band that I've hit upand they said, hell yeah, dude,
you can share our music andthat's what we do and we love
you.
And I wanted to cut in front ofLindsay and say her little

(05:35):
spiel before that.
And I think when we go toseason two, we're just going to
be like, if you're new here,just go back.
That's what we're going to say.
Season two, the whole season,Season two is coming up.
We've been doing this foralmost a year.
Lindsay, I just wanted to justgo ahead right now.
I'm going to do this Becauseanybody that's hearing this,

(05:57):
that's heard everything.
Thank you so much.
And thank you, Lindsay, fordestroying me so much.
I mean not really youremotional support plant is still
blooming.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
It is so thank you, lindsey, for destroying me so
much.
I mean not really.
Your emotional support plant isstill blooming so thank you,
lindsey, and thank you everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Picture of you again for the instagram we're
literally fixing to fire off injust a couple of weeks into our
second whole ass season, and I,I want to do a little bit of
work for you and I'm doing it,I'm doing it, we're, we're doing
video stuff now.
We're, we're moving on.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Hit that intro while I take a picture of you, oh fuck
.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay, here we go.
I'm going to.
This is going to be on oursocial medias.
Here we go While this ishappening.
This is going to do thatbecause it's part of the party.

(07:05):
It's part of the party.
We did a whole photo shootwhile the intro song was playing
.
That was the best one.
Is that the best one?
No, god, okay, whatever, yes,and that was the best one.
Whatever, play it, plug it, doit, share it, whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And that one too, that one's great.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's my favorite one.
That's me.
That's the me.
That's me.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You'll have to follow us on Instagram to see it
Friday.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm going to start doing that to you.
You're going to be the same way.
I swear to God.
You're going to be like no,don't ever share that.
And I'll be like fuck you, I'msharing it, we're going to share
.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I always ask you first If you ask me to.
But I do ask me to, but I dohave to ask you a question.
Don't do it, lindsey.
Lindsey, don't do what makesyou feel old this week, or what
did make you feel old this week?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I made notes on our notes, but I don't even need to
look at it okay because I knowthat I get a little over the top
with these young and sometimesmaking jokes and then it's okay,
okay.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
So sometimes it's okay okay we.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
We got kids that have they're grown and then they
have friends and they'll comeover and they'll do their thing
sometimes a little over the top,and you already pointed out a
few times.
Actually pretty much everyfucking time I'm a little over
the top of these kids and thennow I'm thinking about I'm like
fuck, I am a little over the topand it makes me feel creepy
because they're all kids butthey're full grown ass 20 to 25

(08:30):
to 30 year old sometimes and I'mcutting up and acting goofy and
I'm like, wait a minute, thatfeels creepy to me.
But the reason why it feelscreepy is because I'm so fucking
old and I still see a 30 yearold, not a 30, probably about a
25 and down.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They're all children, yeah, 25 and down 25 and down
is all children between 20 and25.
Yeah, that's who he cuts upwith.
They are grown adults yeah,they're all grown.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
They're all grown people, because compared to us,
they're still babies.
My cutting up can kind of be alittle dirty and kind of be a
little weird and kind of be alittle much.
Yeah, if it.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't do that to females.
I respect.
No, this is all boys.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
The dudes I've been, I mean I've spent most of my
life around shops, so mechanicshops and stuff, so I have that
ingrained.
I mean honestly they love it andthey think it's funny but as a
female, I want to like crawlinto a hole, yeah, but I still
feel like thinking about it Ikind, but as a female I want to
like crawl into a hole, yeah,but I still feel like thinking

(09:26):
about it I kind of, and I don'twant to take that away because
they actually enjoy that timewith me.
They really do.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
They're like this dude's fucking cool man being
the only female in the house,like yesterday, I was like all
right, that's enough balls andwiener talk, yeah, for today and
me.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm like, I'm done.
That's what we do here, but Iam the only female in this house
, so you feel me yeah, sometimesI'll get a wild hair and send
lindsey's videos of me goofingat the shop or whatever, and I
love that.
Yeah, and it is really becauseI have my.
I mean no shit.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Like me and my female co-workers, we talk about gross
shit as well, but if I had abunch of daughters in the house
and I was talking that way, youwould be like what the fuck?
At the same time, yeah, so yeah, I would be Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I still feel old.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
They're full grown and I still feel like they're
babies, so that's what makes mefeel old.
Your turn, lindsay.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right.
So yesterday I was doing thedoom scroll right before shower
time, after the house was cleanand decorated, by the way Clean,
decorated, yeah and I came homeand killed it too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he came homein his break.
He did some shit.
I was.
I came across the video ofJamie Lee Curtis, who, I have to

(10:38):
say, we've been watching JamieLee Curtis since we were babes.
She looks phenomenal, by theway.
So Stephen Colbert she's on theStephen Colbert show and he
asked her if she had ever askedanybody else for an autograph.
Okay, and she thinks about itfor a minute and then she's

(11:00):
dying laughing and she cannotstop.
She's just fucking hysterical.
So I mean, the audience islaughing, I'm laughing.
I don't even know what's funny,yet Guess who it was?
Tell me, steve Urkel.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Really, and she was fangirling over Steve.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
No, it was for her daughter.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So Jamie Lee Curtis had a daughter who was
fangirling over Urkel at thesame time.
We were, and I, just then Iwent, and then I just I went
into this whole realm ofthinking about TGIF and all
those shows that we watched andhow that was what we looked
forward to every week Now, okay,so right now you can sit down

(11:43):
on your couch or your bed,whatever you're you know, a
table at a restaurant, pull upon your phone and you can watch
any fucking giving show that youwant to watch known to mankind
and movies.
We had to wait for a tv godschedule first.
Well, me, I.
I just had bunny ears.

(12:03):
I didn't grow up with cable orsatellite.
Yeah, so I had to watch network, local network television.
Tv 20 out of Gainesville yeah,or was it Jacksonville,
gainesville?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
And.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I had to wait for TGIF.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, there was soap operas during the week and
there was talk shows.
If you were homesick, you werewatching.
Bob Barker, you were watchingall my children.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
They bounced 20 off of our middle school over here.
You remember that big saladdish at our middle school.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
That's where it bounced, from Gainesville off of
that.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, that's how you got it.
Yeah, well, thank you for allof that, because that was the
only way this little farm girlcould In middle school Back in
the 90s.
No, but that's what made me feelold Jamie Lee Curtis bringing
up Urkel, because that wassomething that I looked forward
to every week of my life foralmost a decade, you know.
Yeah, because you had FullHouse, you had Family Matters,

(12:57):
you had Boy Meets World, step bystep, and I have literally
loved the fact that I can go toHulu and rewatch all of those
shows at any point at any time,and I'm grateful for that,
because those shows were likethat was my life.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, roseanne and fucking Golden Girls now, that
wasn't.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Roseanne and Golden Girls wasn't on TGIF, but yeah,
I'm just saying like just andlike all those old shows and
Frasier and Cheers, becauseFrasier was the spinoff of
Cheers and yeah, that just sentme into a whole spiral.
Seeing Jamie Lee Curtis talkabout getting her daughter
Urkel's autograph Just sent meinto this whole spiral of all

(13:39):
the nostalgic TV shows.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, what was the movie that she was in where she
did the dance?
Jamie Lee Curtis did the dance.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh, it was with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I forgot the name of the movie.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
True Lies.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, god, was she killing it then?
For sure, but one two, three.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Count of three Favorite.
Jamie Lee Curtis movie One, two, three.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Probably True Lies.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
My Girl for me, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, okay, can we do that?
I'm going to that.
I'm going to that with you.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
But also my number two is Freaky Friday.
I love Freaky Friday with herand Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Lohan and they just did the two.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, we haven't watched part two yet.
We got to wait for it to comeout on our streaming services?
Yeah year, because of ourupcoming trip columbia county
movie theater fucking sucks well, that well, we like to go to
gainesville and sit in thelounge chairs because columbia
county movie theater fuckingsucks yeah, because in
gainesville we can have a drinkwith our fucking gigantic

(14:35):
columbia county movie theaterfucking sucks with our giant
bucket of popcorn right, and Ijust love gainesville way better
.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh yeah, because I'm from gainesville, bitch.
Okay, I'm not from gainesville,but gainesville has some cool
shit and I like the college townit's.
it's not too big and not tooweird of a college town that you
don't want to come andparticipate, because some
college towns are weird.
I've been to some weird collegetowns and it's this way, that
way, and then some.
Then some are political, someare this, some are that.

(15:05):
Gainesville's just like kind ofright up the middle.
I like it.
You know, I don't mind going toGainesville.
Go Gators, go Gators.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, I myself am a NOLS fan and did spend a lot of
time in Tallahassee, my middleschool best friend with her aunt
.
We would go into Tallahasseeand there was this little
restaurant called Wings andRings where you got chicken
wings and curly fries and man,that's just slapped oh yeah, one

(15:38):
of my best friends lives inTallahassee.
Yeah, Like we love our CrawfordBull boys.
Yeah, Crawford Bull Tallahassee.
So check out Fighting Giants,Tragic and Defy the.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Tyrant.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yes, those are our Crawfordville boys, which is
close enough to Tallahassee.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, I mean, some of them live in and out and around
.
Anyhow, you have stories, I do.
You have a story?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
And we're going to do that.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
We're going to do a whole ass story.
All right, I don't go ahead andturn this way, because I know
the plant's going to need me forthis one.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, this one's going to be a little slow build.
There is going to be a lot oftriggering factors in this.
Anything that you can possiblythink of that may trigger you
will be discussed in thisepisode, so wanted to go ahead
and put that out there before wecontinue.
But most of the triggeringfactors will be towards the end

(16:30):
of this episode and then on intopart two.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
This is a two-parter.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yes, it's a two-parter.
I was thinking it was actuallygoing to be a three, but I'm
going to be able to do it in two.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
All right.
So we're talking about DavidParker Ray.
Button too, I'm gonna let yougo, all right.
So we're talking about DavidParker Ray, and he was born on
November 6th 1939.
To I want to say either what doyou see?
Do you say Cecil or Cecil?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Cecil.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, For me it's Cecil.
I like Cecil, I don't carewhich me, so anyway his dad's
name was Cecil Leland Ray andhis mother's name was Nettie
Opal Parker, and he had a littlesister named Peggy Pearl Ray.
I mean so they lived in Belen,new Mexico, and those seem like
very Southern names for me.

(17:17):
But then, at the same time thatI thought about it, I'm like,
well, that is the Southwest,we're in the Southeast, but
that's the Southwest, so it'sstill the south, kind of I get
it, but it's a lot of latinapeggy pearl ray native american,
but they weren't they weren'teither one of those.
Right, yeah, it's small, smalldesert town.
So, um, cecil andettie did notstay together because Cecil was

(17:45):
an abusive alcoholic.
So Nettie would go on to livewith her parents and David, who
was only about 10 years old whenthe parents divorced him, and
Peggy would go and live withCecil's parents, who were strict
, ok.
And they went to Mountaineerthat was the name of the town OK
, mountaineer, that was the nameof the town.

(18:05):
Okay, mountaineer, new Mexico.
All right, like I said, theywere strict, devout Christians
and they were really hard onDavid and Peggy and gave them
beatings regularly.
Fuck that, yeah.

(18:25):
And Cecil, he didn't comearound too much, but when he did
, he would bring David littlegifts, but these gifts were not
what a little boy should begetting.
Oh, cecil was bringing him porn, and not just any In the 30s,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, the 40s.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
We're in the 40s now.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
He's grown, so it's 10, 40, late 40s, early 50s.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, oh man.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
What are you doing in there, boy?
I'm going to give you a beating.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
But, jesse, this wasn't just any porn, it was
sadomasochistic porn.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
How the fuck did they have something?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
like that.
That was what.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
But you got to think back who else have we covered
Fucking what's his name.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I can't think of his name right now.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Garbage the couple from england.
He was into that shit too.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Oh yeah, why can't I?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
think of his name right now.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh god, okay monsters of the moors.
Check that one out.
Yeah, whoa.
So, oh my god, now you'remaking me go to that this way,
and that way, and that way andthis way.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
And this caused little David Parker Ray to
develop very early sexualfantasies of raping, torturing
and murdering women.
Oh yeah, definitely sodomy aswell.
So Ray and his sister, theyattended Mountaineer High School
and ray was bullied for hisshyness around girls.

(19:47):
But ray, he had already startedkeeping diaries about his
fantasies and would also havedrawings of bondage and torture
type porn.
Like he was drawing the shit out, yeah he's locked into some
thick and I want to say I want,I want to pause and give the.
I've got a little soapbox here.

(20:07):
We've got a platform.
I want to talk about this Now.
Jesse, you know, we all grew up.
There was always a friend thatwould introduce us to porn of
some sort.
Yeah, if you can, as a parentin 2025, even if you discover
that your child is looking atporn, hopefully it's none of

(20:29):
this shit, which I mean.
At the same time, if you're ofage and you like S&M, it's
whatever.
When it's time to have thattalk, right, when it's time to
have that talk, let them knowthat porn is not real life sex.
It's acting.
That's acting.
Yeah, and they should not everfeel like that.
That's the expectations thatthey are going to have.

(20:54):
No, in real life sex.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
You can aspire to be that fucking badass in that
situation, but no, all of thosepeople are.
It's.
It's an act, it is scripted, itis set up to look like what it
looks like.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Even the shit on Pornhub.
They have that, you know.
I mean, that's as close to reallife as you can get, but at the
same time, they've stillthought about it before they
turn them cameras on, yeah,before they turn them cameras on
, yeah.
So yeah, make sure you're.
I mean, it's an uncomfortableconversation period.
It's always going to be, butthat was actually brought to my

(21:32):
attention a few years ago by aguy that always comes to your
shows and you know we were justhaving a kind of a drunken
conversation, but it was a validpoint.
Men mostly men, women too, butmostly men need to not ever
think that porn is what reallife sex.

(21:52):
Yeah, you don't aspire to be tothat level no no, that's movie
star.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Level of sexual activity yeah, it's not real.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sexual activity should be natural right and you
just go with your vibe andsomebody likes that vibe and and
y'all are consummating andbeing a relationship.
That's what you go with when,also in in our outlander journey
, we discussed that that is themost realistic actual sex we've
ever seen in a show and how manyshows before that I watched, I

(22:22):
said I don't feel like watchingthis because this is just too
much bullshit.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It makes Jesse uncomfortable.
But Outlander he's like that'sreal.
Yeah, that's real.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's real, real passion.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Real passion.
It looked they scripted that itlasts two seconds.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well, not even two seconds, but it's real, it is
beyond two seconds, but.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I'm just saying, their sexual scenes in that show
are more realistic thananything we've ever seen in any
other type of show.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, and at most stages, other than in your early
on stages, that marathon shitis just not it.
You know you want to have moreof a relationship other than
just that.
Right, and it's just not aboutthe marathon bullshit where you
just go in the bedroom and doshit for hours.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, it's just not about the marathon bullshit
where you just go in the bedroomand do shit for hours.
No, it's not about that andnobody.
And also, at the same time,there are people that consenting
adults enjoy snm and bondageand bdsm, and that is fine, yeah
.
But this here that we're goingto talk about, it's not cool,
okay.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The generalization of sexual activity when it comes
to that is just common vibes andyou have that activity together
in a good, healthy way.
Whichever way it is, whicheverway it is, you can do whatever
your taste is which I comeacross it around 14 myself.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
The same type of thing.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well, that's about how old it wasn't dirty dirty
like that kind of craziness, itwas just I understood the
mechanics of what goes down orwhatever.
Well, like you said, what?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
shocked me about this story is how long ago.
That's shocking yeah yeah, thatkind of shit 40s and 50s crazy
ass shiza videos so, like I said, ray had already started
keeping diaries about hisfantasies.
He would have drawings ofbondage and torture, type porn.

(24:17):
Well, little peggy, his littlesister, she found these drawings
and she was frightened like shewas, was scared, and I mean I
would be scared in 2025.
I couldn't imagine forties andfifties finding this shit.
So David was born in 39.
He is now 14.
So we're saying late fifties or, I'm sorry, late forties early

(24:40):
fifties yeah.
She's I mean this, this, that'sclutch.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Your pearl was fucking wholesome at all.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, there's no, there's no such thing as the
good old days yeah, we thoughtit was of course we did but
guess what this guy was roamingaround.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so um leave it to beaver for fucking pulling
the wool over our eyes.
Well, she.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
She would keep her distance from Ray after
discovering that shit.
Well then, Ray or, excuse me,David, his last name is Ray he
was given a motor scooter fromhis grandparents and he soon
discovered that he was verymechanically inclined and he
would take it apart and put itback together with ease.

(25:25):
So this gave david a newpopularity with other boys who
would have him work on theirbikes and shit like that.
Like he was, that was mr, fixit a little greaser there yeah,
well in 1957.
so we're in 1957.
That's still a very long timeago.
That's considered a quote,unquote wholesome age Right.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, the era of just respect and wholesome.
But it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, david's grandmother.
She died suddenly.
And then, david, he went toAlbuquerque to live with his
mother and Peggy.
She went on to stay inMountaineer and live with a
local family.
I love Albuquerque to live withhis mother and Peggy.
She went on to stay inMountaineer and lived with a
local family.
I love Albuquerque.
That is one of the coolestplaces we've been to.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Wasn't it awesome.
I wish we'd have went on up toSanta Fe.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You know historically some of the ancient Native
Americans, but you know at thesame time we went and saw
awesome Native American shit,but at the same time time that's
where this motherfucker's fromand yeah, and it's gonna get
rough well, there's a lot ofshit that goes down in the kirk
man oh yeah, real, but gatheringof nations was amazing yes, it

(26:37):
was the whole, the whole, butI'm glad area that we went to
that area without me knowinganything about this.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
yeah, because I would probably make you go, well, if
you had looked up the crime ratein Albuquerque period, you
would have been like fuck.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, yeah, I mean, like this story we're going to
keep going.
Okay.
So after David graduated, heleft home to become a mechanic
and he started dating this girl.
She was from Albuquerque, butshe's unnamed, so she didn't
want to be part of the story.
Okay, and they married in 1959.

(27:11):
So he's born in 39.
He's now 20.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
He gets married for the first time.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And he's got a weird perception on that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
But we'll talk about this later on.
He's already done some shit,but we're going to talk about
this later on.
He's already done some shit,but we're gonna talk about that
later on, okay okay fuck.
So when his wife was pregnant,david joined the military and
his mechanical skills were putto use and he was sent overseas
for about three years.
In 1960 they had a baby boynamed David Elvin Ray.

(27:45):
But that marriage it didn'tlast and it dissolved by 1961.
And David was actually awardedcustody of little David.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
He seems like a stand-up dude Because he's a
military man At this point.
Yeah, but you already dumpedshit before, so I don't know
which way to go.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, and I'm going to, okay.
So, throughout this story,David is going to seem to
Outshine huh To some people anamazing guy, amazing neighbor,
amazing and then there's a wholedifferent world that he's in.
So let me keep going.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He's got some back fuckery going on, right.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, when David was sent off with the army again,
his mother, Nettie, who was nowremarried, would keep little
David.
Then David was married againwrong wife number two in 1962 to
another woman who was also notnamed, and that one only lasted
about three months.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, she's seen it.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, I don't know.
I don't know if she did or not.
There's a lot of mystery here.
Okay, okay, but I'm just goingthrough the timeline.
In 1963, david was dischargedfrom the army.
It was honorably Honorably,honorably, honorably, yeah,
honorable discharge.
He was discharged from the armyand became a driver for a local

(29:09):
truck driving company and heworked alongside his stepfather.
In 1966, he married GlendaBurdine, who already had a
little boy, like he did, andthen they had a little girl
together named Glenda Jean Ray.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
But you can't say 1966 without saying pickup
sticks.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Sorry, I meant to pause for that.
I really did, but I wasfumbling with my words there, so
Okay, you made it.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, we made it okay .

Speaker 2 (29:38):
So Glenda Jean Ray would actually end up going by.
You want to take a guess whatshe went by?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
What did she go by?
I can't guess it.
I can't guess it, jessie, shewent by, jessie, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So Glinda Jean Ray will now be Jessie throughout
the story, Bro.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
what the fuck is Glinda Jean?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Ray, I don't know, I don't know I was like, but she
go by Ray, but it doesn't makeany sense.
And then did she go by Glinda,or so she will be.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Jessie for the rest of the story.
So little, glinda, jean Raywill go by Jesse for the rest of
the story Makes no sense, Iknow but that's what she went by
.
Okay, so David and Jesse wouldbe very close later on in life,
but before that do you look forfucking podcast?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
to put my name I actually don't.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I really this is like the fifth time now.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's probably not the fifth time.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's pretty fucking close.
Yeah, because there was jesse.
Miss kelly, there was, therewas.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
There's been a few jesse's throughout, yeah why
does my name keep coming up intrue crime?
I don't know.
There's that much true crimeand this and this.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Jesse spelled it like you do, yeah as a female as a
female.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Come on, we'll talk about that a minute a little why
at the end I kind of wish myname had a Y at the end.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, because you're Jesse David from the Bible.
Give me an.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
IE.
Give me an IE.
Yeah, give me a Y with an IE.
Fuck it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
All right, Let me keep going boo-boo yeah.
So David and that David ran offto be a drifting hippie.
He left his family.
Okay, he would starthitchhiking with a woman named
Sally, and one day they stoppedat a truck stop for a meal.

(31:18):
David talked with oh my God,are you playing with the mask?
You're distracting me.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You got it over here.
Was it Sally O'Malley?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
my God, let me take a picture, right quick, but no
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So we have all these decorations going on.
I can't stop wearing it.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's our New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
New Orleans Did we get this in New Orleans, did we?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
No, we found.
What was it?
What did you find it at?
Like a yard sale.
I don't remember Some NewOrleans Halloween decorations,
decorations and there was abunch of masks in there, so I
just put them all over the houseoh, dude, and they're cool.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I want to go to a masquerade party your 30th
masquerade party was so fuckingamazing it was well we.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And then we've went to another one, uh, for new
year's eve.
Remember the show where I gottrashed?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
oh god, yeah, yeah and then we went.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We did when we do flappers on that one?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
no, it was just masks .

Speaker 2 (32:07):
We did.
I had like a.
I had a lace romper.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
For your 30th?
We did.
I was a post-apocalyptic typedude with a gas mask on.
That was cool Toting around in1911.
That was fun.
Anyhow, go back.
Baby Weird had to play.
Had to play Sorry.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
So David talks with the owner and the owner offered
him a job due to his knowledgeof mechanics.
Like this dude.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
He was balling into fucking.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Balling into mechanics In the wrenching yeah,
balling wrenching.
Sweet.
What is the deal with mechanicsand fucking true crime too?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I'm not going to talk about my job personally, but we
just had a mechanic leave thatI could have swore could have
been a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh yeah, let's talk about that later.
So David and Sally.
So OK, let's just make thisclear.
David has a whole ass family athome.
David has decided to become adrifting hippie.
He's he's hanging out withSally.
Sally and him move in with theowner of this truck stop.
Yeah, sally O'Malley.

(33:06):
So David and Sally moved inwith the owner and the owner's
girlfriend, who was also a cookat the truck stop.
Everyone got along and they allpartied all the time together
at a local bar.
When the truck stop would close, it was time to party.
Now girlfriend was pregnant.
But you know, back then it wasokay for you to drink and smoke

(33:27):
while you were pregnant.
I mean it wasn't okay.
Then it was okay for you todrink and smoke while you were
pregnant.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean it wasn't okay , but it was accepted for you to
drink and you barely had, youbarely had vaccines.
You didn't wear seat belts.
You fucking did what you wantedto you drank and smoked while
you were pregnant even know shewas pregnant, probably did she
did, she did she knew, and ohwell, yeah yeah, you know, I
literally just said on your hipwhile you're pregnant, smoking a

(33:49):
fucking benson and hedgesdrinking a martini 30 extra
olives yeah, and I'm listeningto tammy, why net absolutely no
vermouth in that bitch, okay?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
so one day the girlfriend the truck stop
owner's girlfriend she noticesthat sally and all her things
had vanished, and when she askedDavid where Sally was, he was
just like you know what?
She's a free spirit and she hasgone on her way.
This couple thinks nothing ofit until about 30 years later,

(34:23):
but we'll get there.
So then, a little while later,david, he goes home to his
family and he stayed a devotedhusband and father for a while
and became an aircraft mechanic.
Secretly, he was starting topursue sex workers or women that
he met in bars to satisfy hissadomasochistic fantasies.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh, he could pay for it and do the dirt.
Masochistic fantasies.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh, he could pay for it and do the dirt.
So in 1969, there was a lot ofcool things that happened in
1969.
It was the summer of 69.
Yes, and then there wasWoodstock, and then Brian Adams
sang about it, and it was.
You know, 69 was a year that'sa good thing.
But uh, david.
He moved his family to Tulsa,oklahoma, and became a teacher

(35:13):
at the Spartan School ofAeronautics.
Now you just dropped that on me.
I gave Jesse the littleassignment.
This was a big deal and hetaught here for the next two
years.
So I gave Jesse a littleassignment on giving us some
history.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, you wanted me to like look up the history.
Yeah, just give me a littleassignment on giving us some
history.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
He's a teacher there.
Yeah, you wanted me to look upthe history.
Yeah, just give me a littlehistory of the Spartan School of
Aeronautics.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
This is juicy.
I like this.
Yeah, yeah.
This is cool that you made mepart of it.
I literally just told.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Jesse, hey, I want you to give me some info on this
school.
And he's like what, what heglitched?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
No, he glitched, no, no.
So there's like three spartanschools of aeronomics, like in
the united states, I think,maybe more, but from what I've
seen, like they started like inthe 30s, yeah, and they helped
revolutionize.
We won world war ii because ofthe technology and the things
they were doing there and it'sreally, really cool.
I mean, if you're into aviationand you want to learn how to
work on planes and mechanicswhich we have a badass spot here

(36:14):
in our town- actually yeah,what's it called?
Right now is it Arrow oh.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why can't we think of our?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
We've had some dreams it's changed.
No, it gets bought and sold.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, our little aeronautics place.
Yeah, we have an old militarybase that's in Lake City,
florida, and they repair planesthere commercial planes and they
do a lot of great career for alot of people here in our town.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
But it gets bought and sold out.
Money, money, money, whatever.
But the employees Back to Tulsa.
That's really I mean all theway down to people that started
traversing the globe whenever,uh, aviation was created as as
far as transportation or warfareor whatever the technology was,

(36:58):
they really forefronted that inin that school.
It was really cool.
I looked up a little bit ofstuff about it and I think
that's about it as far ashistory goes.
I mean, they're phenomenal.
Anyhow, I'm trying to boast itup, but I think you got a
horrific person that you'refixing to dump on me.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's working there, right I'm trying to find the
name of our local ship becausewe I mean if we hadn't had a few
drinks.
Arrow, it used to be timco along time ago.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't know what it is now, but there was like a few
different names of the one herein town.
But isn't that crazy?
Like that's one of the biggestlanding strips in our area.
It's bigger than Jacksonvilleright there, the longer not
bigger.
But you know you can landanything in the world right
there and we watch the planesactually off our back porch.
You can watch them because theyhave to line up right there.

(37:49):
It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, anyways, I can't find.
I can't even find it on Google.
But one of our friends worksfor that company.
Couple of them.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, just just you know.
We know people that do things.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
So, just like he was in school, david Parker Ray, he
was also a loner as a teacher.
He really didn't, you know.
You know how it is You're ateacher, y'all become buds, you
go have drinks after work,whatever.
But David, he was like nah, I'mgood.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
This thing went home.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah Well, david was now in his 30s and in secret he
was getting deeper and deeperinto the world of sadomasochism
and violent deviant sex.
He would later say that hewouldn't even think about it for
months at a time, and thenother months it was all he could
think about Full on addictionRight and it would start to take

(38:42):
over his life.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And that in turn comes where the talk comes into
your child.
You know this way, that way,whatever your preference is it
has to be healthy.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Well, that's deep-seated, that's literally.
His first introduction intosexual world was sadomasochism
Horrific to write off rip.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You got to tell him hey, this is how this goes, this
is healthy.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But at the same time, we want to make sure that we
understand that there is a worldwhere that is okay, but this is
consensual right it'sconsensual do your thing, so we
here at genzy, chesterton,fieldville.
We all know that whatever you'redoing, as long as it's
consensual, healthy and legal,we we do support it yes, we

(39:29):
support it um you and yoursright, but when it comes to the
point where you are takingadvantage of somebody, yeah, or
doing the things that this guywill go on to do, it's not cool,
all right, fuck.
So he would say that hewouldn't even be able to achieve
a climax without imaginingkilling a woman.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
There we go Fuck.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
In the mid-70s David would move the family to
Victoria, texas, where he ran agas station and he was a
volunteer fireman.
Here we go again Upstandingcitizen, deep, dark, secret life
.
Okay, but in 77, he wouldreturn to Albuquerque and worked

(40:17):
repairing tracks for therailroad, and this job would
have him traveling all over theMidwest and he would barely see
his family.
And then his marriage to Glendawould be over All right.
So that's wife number three.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
See, that's the thing that I was talking about
earlier, and I don't want todump names, but a dude at my
work, a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Write his name down, so we can.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't want to write his name down.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
No, write his name down so we can go back.
We can know oh my God, this guy.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm not trying to point out just somebody by their
mannerisms and things, but I'mgoing to keep an eye out, okay.
Okay, lindsay got me over herelike scoping out people now on
this true crime shit.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
So now we're in 1983.
Okay, you and I have both beenborn at this point.
David Parker having dropped theray, he's now dropped ray.
He's reinvented himself alittle bit.
He moved to Phoenix Arizona andbecame lead mechanic for Canal
Motors and helped this businessprosper over the next eight

(41:18):
years.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Should have stayed in Tulsa.
That was a great career.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, this one listen , you'll come to find out.
This guy had stacks.
He lived very meagerly, but hehad stacks.
But why he?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
had stacks, but why he had to move and uproot every
time.
You're going to tell us, you'regoing to find out.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Okay.
So anyway, he's working forCanal Motors.
It's an up-and-coming business.
He helps it prosper over thenext eight years.
He married again, now for thefourth time, to a woman named
Joni Lee.
David was secretly still verydeep into the world of S&M, and
he would travel a lot fromPhoenix to New Mexico and then

(41:57):
Mexico, for reasons that we willtalk about later.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Lindsay, I feel like you are literally Gotta build
bitch.
Now I'm looking up because theweight that's fixing to drop on
me is going to be horrific.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
David and Joni lease some property known as Block K
by a large man-made reservoirlake in Elephant Butte.
Where's that?
New Mexico?
New Mexico, right down the roadfrom Albuquerque.
Okay, and this was alsoconnected to the town of Truth
or Consequences.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I remember seeing that on the map.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, I'm going to give a little history about.
Okay.
So Elephant Butte.
First of all, it got its namefrom a rock formation which was
shaped like an elephant lying onits side.
There was also a state parknearby.
On its side, there was also astate park nearby.
Now, truth or Consequences gotits name from the radio game
show hosted by Ralph Edwards inthe 50s.

(42:56):
On the show's 10th anniversary,ralph said that he would
broadcast live from the first UScity to rename itself after the
show and the residents of HotSprings's where I heard about it
.
They voted to change their nameand now it is called Truth or
Consequences, but the locals sayT or C.
Okay, so now let's get back tohow I said, david had been close

(43:23):
with his daughter.
This was not a healthycloseness, as he would tell her
about his obsession with S&M andhis conquest of women that he
would act out his fantasies on.
She knew about this from apretty young age.
What a creep bag, such a creep.
But in between they would alsobond over their love of nature

(43:45):
and hunting, and she would alsobecome mechanically inclined and
Jessie would come out as alesbian in her late teens.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Well, you couldn't help it.
You're around your dad andyou're handing him tools, and
this is all of your world.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Well, I mean, you're born gay, your sexual
orientation just happens,naturally.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Right, you can do whatever you feel.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
But she was comfortable enough to come out,
and this was in the 70s.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Wow, I mean there was a lot of peace, love and
whatever right there.
Right, there was a lot of thathappening.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
There's still a lot of stigma, though.
In our area I'm sorry, so we'rein the 80s.
We're in the 80s.
I apologize.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Still, there's things we're in the 80s.
We're in the 80s.
I apologize, yeah, Still.
I mean there's things we'removing.
I get it yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, when she, when Jessie, when she turned 19 or
when she was 19, she became veryconflicted about her dad's
sexual violent behavior andafter she witnessed witnessed
him become violent with a sexworker who literally left out of

(44:51):
their house naked running shewas running naked out of his
house in 1986.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I can just fucking imagine how horrific all the
backstory you're fixing to dumpon me.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
So then, jesse, she went down to the local FBI
office in in that area and toldthe feds.
Yeah, okay, is that bad yeah,and told them that her father
kidnapped women, tortured themand then sold them into sex
slavery over the mexican border.

(45:25):
That's what she told the FBI.
Fuck, she knew a lot of fuckingshit.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh, that's why he was moving jobs, that's why he was
doing this and that and theother and fucking all them
fucking things that he wasfucking doing.
Fuck Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So they started to investigate.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
It gets way worse than I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
It gets worse.
It gets even more worse, no,but.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I'm already picturing and now you're fixing to paint
it Fuck.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So they started to investigate and interview David,
who fucking bragged about hisS&M behavior and tried to
justify it.
Okay, and for some insane and Icapitalized insane reason, they
dropped the investigation andJessie would never turn on her

(46:11):
father again.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Okay, I keep, I keep.
You're looking at me and you'resaying my name, but okay, okay,
no, and that's why we drink.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
And that's well.
That's another podcast.
Oh, it's a podcast, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
We need to do a collab for them.
I want to do one, I want tohang out with some, but we are
drinking about something, andthe something is David Parker
Ray.
I'm taking a sip right now.
We're drinking about somethingright now and listen and we're
drinking about Jesse Ray.
Yeah, quit saying my name inthe middle of this.
This is offensive.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
But you're Jesse David.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
God.
Both names.
I just connected David.
Both names I just connectedDavid Parker Ray and.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Jesse.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Ray, and you're Jesse David Ew.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Whamsy, whamsy.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
All right In 1988.
Fuck, he's going to the planthe's getting.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
You got a cool straw over here, still holding up.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Our snake plant is still in recovery, don't mess
with her.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And the grandkids are coming next week.
Right, we're going to leave it.
We better get more straws.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Okay.
So in 1988, david's partnerdown at Canal Motors, billy Ray
there's so many Rays no comment.
So his name was Billy RayBowersays no comment.
So his name was Billy RayBowers he no comment.
He vanished after wanting tocash in on his partnership.

(47:39):
Police were called toinvestigate, but Billy Ray's
disappearance would go unsolved.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I farted, sorry, keep going.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
You made me drop my pencil unsolved.
I farted.
Sorry, keep going.
You made me drop my pencil,well, I farted.
Billy Ray's disappearance wouldgo unsolved for a while.
A year later, a man was fishingat Elephant Butte Lake and a
body came floating up.
Oh fuck, the body was that of aman who had been shot execution

(48:13):
style and was tied up.
But that body would remain aJohn Doe for about 10 years
before being identified as BillyRay.
10 years, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
You keep flipping shit at me, man, I'm building
boo-boo, building the suspense.
It's a shit-ass brick house,dun-dun-dun-dun House.
She's mighty, mighty.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Just letting it all hang out, alright.
So David now feeling like he'sgotten away with quite a few
crimes and is no longer beinginvestigated?
The FBI said fuck off he startsto make even more of his six
fantasies become part of hislife, and he uses his mechanical

(49:08):
skills to do so.
What, what is a motherfuckerbuilding machines?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
and shit.
Let me get there, because I'mgoing to rage against it.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
He decides to design a torture chamber and constructs
many torture devices.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I was just joking, Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Well, we're not playing here.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
But I was joking, Lindsay, you don't have to tell
me this.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Well we're not playing here, but I was joking
you gotta not Fuck.
So he also wanted to documentand film his victims' reactions
to pain.
He would also make money offhis films in the dark underworld
of torture porn.
In 1991, at 513 Bass Road,david would turn a cargo trailer

(49:56):
into what he would call his toybox and it would be right next
to his mobile home.
He had like a double wide.
And then we got a cargo trailerand Jesse is over here silently
freaking the fuck out becauseI'm it's about to go hard, let
me roll, okay, fuck.

(50:16):
The entrance would read welcometo satan's den.
And satan's den would besoundproof, air-condition and it
had weights, pulleys, whips,chains, scalpels.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Why the fuck the air conditioning Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
So victims could.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Enjoy the air conditioning while they're being
fucking torqued.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
So they wouldn't hyperventilate, dehydrate,
things like that we're going toget there.
We're going to get there.
So he would have pap smearequipment and a gynecologist
chair that was designed to shockhis victims.
Full, full Lens.
Walls were decorated withpictures and drawings of women

(51:06):
being tortured.
There would also be cattleprods, stretching devices and
enormous and enormous is noteven a big word for this
enormous dildos, yes, enormous.
One dildo was attached to abase that had nails sticking

(51:29):
upward so that when it was used,it would tear the flesh.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
There was also Are you fucking kidding me right now
?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
He has scooted towards me.
He's literally in my face.
And in my face, lindsay, and inmy microphone, lindsay.
This isn't funny and you'remaking me laugh this is not
fucking funny.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
No, and I'm still going.
You have more.
Yeah, you got to scoot backover to your seat.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
No, I'm not Get in your seat.
No, I'm going to stay right,the fuck here while you're Get
in your seat.
No, I'm going to stay right,the fuck here while you're Get
in your corner.
I'll go back to my microphone,but Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
PS.
Has anybody watched that moviewith Jennifer Aniston and Jake
Gyllenhaal and the guy from ohBrother when Art Thou, where
it's called the Good Girl, andhe's he is having relations with
Jennifer Aniston, the guy fromBro Brother, art the one.
What's his name?

(52:31):
Buster Scrubs.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Fuck.
What is his name?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I don't know, but he's having relations with
Jennifer Aniston, and his dogkeeps barking at them while
they're having relations andhe's like get in your corner.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Get in your corner.
I thought it was out of.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
we're not on a Get in your corner.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I thought it was out of time.
I ain't even paying attentionto our screen.
I'm over here in your face,Lindsey.
You have more to dump on meright now.
Yep, well, I'll keep makingjokes we're almost done with
this part about us wrestlinglater.
I'm right here.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
You ready to wrestle?
Uh-uh, your knee hurts from ourkid.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
So get your ass in your corner.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Let me get over there .
I can't believe it.
I can't believe this.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
I never came over here to your side of the court.
You got.
No, your beard smells nice, butI got to finish my.
I got to finish part one.
You can finish it, but, bitch,I got shit to do.
I want to go away.
Well, go away back to yourcorner, go hug the plant.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
No, the plant ain't good enough for this moment.
Okay, I'm back, All right, butshit, All right, Go, go whatever
dude go.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I'm all the way invested into my fucking plant,
all right.
I'm all the way invested intomy fucking plant, all right.
So there was also a coffin withrestraints and ventilation
holes.
There was a monitor so that thevictim would have to see what
was being done to them.
When he would lure a victim, hewould blindfold them, drug them
.
Once they would be in the toybox, he would play this

(54:08):
horrifying message that he hadpre recorded.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Take a picture of this and share it to fucking
everybody.
That way they know, where I'mat.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Alright, hold on, he's shooting a bird at me.
Just let y'all know.
Okay, alright, you ready?
No, I'm not ready.
So the pre-recorded messagewould play for the victim saying
Hello there, bitch, are youcomfortable right now?

(54:36):
I doubt it.
Wrists and ankles chained,gagged, probably blindfolded,
you are disoriented and scaredtoo, I would imagine.
Perfectly normal under thecircumstances.
For a little while at least,you will need to get your shit
together and listen to this tape.
It is very relevant for yoursituation.

(54:56):
I am going to tell you indetail why you have been
kidnapped, what's going tohappen to you and how long you
will be here.
Now you are obviously hereagainst your will, totally
helpless, don't know whereyou're at, don't know what's
going to happen.
You're very scared.
You're very pissed off.
I'm sure that you've alreadytried to get your wrists and

(55:19):
ankles loose and know that youcan't.
Now you're just here waiting tosee what's going to happen to
you next.
You probably think you're goingto be raped, and you're fucking
sure right about that.
Our primary interest is in whatyou've got between your legs.
You'll be raped thoroughly andrepeatedly in every hole you've

(55:40):
got, because, basically, you'vebeen snatched and brought here
for us to train and use you as asex slave Sound kind of far out
.
Well, I suppose it is to theuninitiated.
I can't read this word.
I'm sorry, but we do it all thetime.
It's going to take a lot ofadjustment on your part and

(56:00):
you're not going to like it afucking bit, but I don't give a
rat's ass about that.
It's not like you're going tohave any choice in the matter.
Now I'm going to stop there.
This transcript goes on forprobably about 30 minutes for
his victim to listen to, butthat's just a little bit of what
he says to his victims whilethey're kidnapped.

(56:24):
Strapped yeah, in a trailer, ina trailer.
So you?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
put yourself in this situation right now.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
And I just snapped.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh, I've put myself in it Because I've listened to
this case be told probably byabout Male, female, whatever you
are Four different, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
You put yourself in this situation right now and you
hear that being bonded up andnot knowing what the fuck's
really going to fucking happen,and all you have now is time to
think about it before it reallyfucking happens.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
And they're blindfolded.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Every one of these fucking podcasts is the worst
one, and this is the fuckingworst one.
Why you keep giving the fuckingworst one?
I swear to God.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
He would end with the victims know that he would be
drugging them and they wouldnever remember him where they
were and there would be no DNAevidence as he would flush out
all their holes.
David would have other womenaccomplices to assist in the
torture of his victims,including Jesse Ray.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
So that's the we.
That's one of the we I thoughthe had like multiple
personalities of fuckery goingon.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
No, he had other females, including his daughter,
the he has the we and it'sother actual human beings.
And we're going to talk moreabout that in part two.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
There's a part two to this.
I have to come back.
Oh yeah, I know I have to comeback.
We gotta tell you how he wegotta tell the end.
Can you do part two without me?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
yes, I can, if you want.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I'll set it up.
I don't really want to but,fuck, there's some good parts of
part two how the fuck is thereany good in this?
Any of, but still no, okay.
There's good parts, this Any of, okay, well, I mean, but still
no, no, not okay.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
There's good parts in part two.
I'm picturing this trailer.
I can promise you that.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Can I rant for two seconds?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Because I'm picturing this trailer right.
What is it like?
Is it like a Con-X or whateveron a semi-trailer?
When we get to part two, I'mgoing to show you pictures, oh,
my god, yeah, I'm sorry, so I'mpainting my picture right now on
my own.
I'm fucking all this metal andgear works and shit Of fuckery

(58:34):
all in this fucking 40 foottrailer of stirrups and chains.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
The neighbors thought that that was his workshop
Because it was soundproof.
They had no idea.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
And he had it all padded and fucking do you know
what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Hold on this motherfucker.
Listen to this.
So I don't know if you if youguys have been listening
throughout, y'all know that oneof my favorite podcasts is last
podcast on the left.
Okay yeah marcus that he's thenarrator, he's he writes the
script.
Hit.
One of his buddies lived twodoors down, grew up two doors

(59:10):
down from David Parker Ray Areyou fucking kidding me.
And he was described and we'regoing to get there.
Regular Joe Cool dude, fuckingneighbor Fuck.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
So let me finish up, let me wrap up, boo-boo.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Okay, but we're almost 50 episodes in Mm-hmm.
And I'm still not thiscalloused.
I can't.
I know you can't do females,Males, people that love podcasts
.
How do you get calloused tothis where you love it?
I don't love any of this.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
All I can say as a person that I enjoy the stories,
because not, it's not evenreally an enjoyment, it's.
I am intrigued because, I don'tthink like any of these
motherfuckers me that I've everheard about.
So it is intrigued.
It's not, it's not.

(59:58):
I really I don't know the rightwords because I don't think
that way, and it is insane to methat there are people out there
that think this way, like Ican't even imagine that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
He developed it when he was coming into an emotional
state of sexuality.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
There are other people who are subjected to the
same shit and turn out just fine.
Yeah, so what was the key?
Factor as to thinking oh, theonly way I'm going to get my
fucking jollies off is by rapingand torturing and killing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
My opinion right now trying to get acceptance from
his father, that was droppingoff some fucking garbage, but
that guy was never around.
No, I know he didn't getaccepted.
He wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Parents, god damn it, like we he wasn't there,
parents.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
God damn it like we.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Does that make sense?
Yeah, our net.
Our next recap episode, becausewe're not going to recap this
series just yet because it's notover, so we're going to have a
recap of something else that wewatched, coming out wednesday
another destroyed fucking human,yeah by a parent we just cannot
wrap our minds.
and I have children that had anawful father not jesse and they

(01:01:13):
did the same thing.
It's almost like, and what I,what I try to, uh, it's like a
battered wife syndrome, but withchildren, yeah, it's like like
not, I don't even want to say astock, but it's similar.
It's different levels, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And even on your side , the battered wife side.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I had battered wife syndrome but I got out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
There's different levels of what they call
syndromes.
You can't just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
And it's insane to me you can't pinpoint a thing.
And why I stayed?
Because the only thing that Ithere was a part of that person
that was good, but at the sametime that was only like 25% of
him.
The other 75% was fucking evil.
So why did I think that one 25%was going to stick around?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You thought you could make it better Right, you
thought you could change it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
That's the whole horrific thing about
relationships and either sideyou're facing the demon and
thinking you can beat it and youcan change it to make it better
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Well, let's wrap this up so we can plug your band.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Okay, so we're going to wrap up part one.
I'm going to end with this.
Okay Talk.
David Parker Ray was now anemployee at the elephant Butte
state park by day, and it wasalso said I just said this a few
minutes ago that he was awonderful neighbor by night.
He would seek out sex workerswhen they would offer their

(01:02:43):
services.
He would pull out a fake badgeand tell them that they were
under arrest for solicitationand then take them back to the
toy box.
Some women would be friends ofJesse's and some straight up
just drugged and kidnapped.
Some would be released the nextday or a few days later and

(01:03:07):
some would never be seen againwhich is literally what she was
trying to drop to the fuckingfeds about.
But that's what's crazy to me isshe wanted to turn him in and
then Now she's going along withit.
Should have ran, yeah, but shedynamics between abusive parents
and their children is insane tome how we I mean there will be,

(01:03:34):
there'll be more down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Every parent, every parent that hears a podcast of
this level needs to set theirchildren down between the age of
, we'll say, 12 and 15.
We'll say 12 and 15, take thetime and show them, in a healthy
way, of what can become ofsomebody that has these
situations and they can get out.
Give them a way out, show them.

(01:03:57):
Show them the way out, Even ifyou are around somebody that's
horrific like this and you don'teven know it.
I mean, just just give them theknowledge that's what we're
doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
It's the knowledge and david parker ray's situation
.
The only person that knew abouthis sick behavior was his
sister, who was like all right,I'm gonna get the fuck away from
him, and then his daughter, whowas like all right, I'm gonna
turn him in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
And that didn't work, so she's like okay, well, now
I'm just gonna fucking go alongwith it joy and join, and, and
she's getting something off onit because she was raised into
it just like he was.
He was, it was given to him yep, and he didn't know anything
different, except for now,that's, his infatuation of

(01:04:37):
sexual activity.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
He had a devout christian grandfather which,
honestly, when you're raisedlike that, you're either going
to go along with it or you'regoing to veer far away from it,
and so there's probably adefiance there yeah he was mad
at his mom, he was mad at hisdad, he was mad at his grandpa
and time period and location andlet me make this clear because

(01:04:59):
we had a couple of comments onour youtube channel we are not
in favor of killers at any time,ever Never.
We just put the facts out thereand try to dissect of how we
think this person got to thispoint.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Yeah, when you hear me ramble, I'm drunk as fuck
anyhow, so it don't count.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And Jesse never has any idea of what I'm going to
talk about, Like not an inkling.
No, I don't count he prints outmy scripts for me and
everything.
He does not look at thembecause he we want.
That's part of our thing hereis it's a natural organic
reaction from Jesse.
So don't ever think we are on akiller's side, except maybe

(01:05:38):
that one time with Bernie Titawe're not.
I mean, murder is never theanswer.
But at the same time it waslike God damn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yeah, sometimes the killers are not even the killers
, because we went through thatwith the Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah, the West Memphis three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Memphis thing yeah.
And I mean there's still a lotof people out there that think
those guys are guilty, and Idon't know how this guy, this
fucking guy, this fucking guy isdisgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
He's gross and we're going to.
We are going to have a part two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
We're going to.
We are going to have a part two.
We're going to talk about a fewof his victims and how he so
that conversation with yourchild, though.
Let them know all about things,in a healthy way, of course,
where they accept it and it's attheir level.
Whatever your child's level isat those ages, Let them know
about things.
That's what parents need to do,and we've done that with our
own child.
Here and there.
I mean, we catch our childwatching Jackass and stuff like

(01:06:32):
that and they're doing crazyballs and dicks, fucking jokes
and whatever.
But we tell him that this isacting.
This is not right.
You don't even need to watch it, but then again I'll be over
there laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Well, yeah, I mean shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
So that's unhealthy for an 11, 12, fucking, whatever
you know the the age range isunhealthy.
Our child is mature, but he hasolder brothers and older
cousins, he knows all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
So we got to break this down for you.
This is not real life.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
This is exactly that's what we go to paid
content every time this personis paid to do these acting
extreme disgusting things.
Yeah, to me it's disgusting, Idon't know he kind of got onto
that because of YouTube and theylet that shit play to anybody
yeah, because he does have akid's YouTube account.

(01:07:22):
So but yeah, he found, hediscovered, he discovered so
many things.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Well, and he has an discovered so many things and he
has an older cousin you knowthat he's hung out with and,
yeah, when they come over hereand they're like check this out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
The laugh, chuckle, chuckle.
But we keep breaking it down towhere this is not natural.
You don't do this.
This is not cool.
You have to do that with anysibling.
That started as his childhoodand where he's, he's got this
infatuation, addiction at thaterotic pleasure of something
that he wants to create thisfucking building where he can do

(01:07:53):
that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Well, that was introduced to him too, at that
age where they are starting tohave developmental shit going on
developmental, sexualeverything, everything I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
It's uncomfortable for me to talk about, but stay
in that pocket with yourchildren a little bit.
We're healthy in a healthy way.
Teach them the right way, don'tlet them stray.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But that is a very healthy yeah.
To stay healthy as you can withyour kids.
Make sure that they know thatthere are certain things that
are unacceptable and can bedangerous in life.
That are unacceptable and canbe dangerous in life, but at the
same time, if you're an adultand you're consenting, your
kinks are your kinks.
It's whatever.
Yes, as long as you're an adultand consenting and it's legal

(01:08:37):
Period.
So, with that being said, thatis the end of part one of David
Parker Ray, who is known as theToy Box Killer, and we will
return next week for part two.
So now here comes the fun part.
Jesse, what are you going to?

(01:08:58):
What band are you going to plugtoday?
I?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
have some amazing music to play.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Did you?
Did you read it down here atthe bottom?
I didn't, so you're not allowedto read my notes on your notes,
that way we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Sometimes I do, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
This band's from Taiwan, lindsay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Taiwan, yeah, okay.
And I want to play them andwhat's their name, so I can find
them on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Soulman, I have it written right here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
You spelled it correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yes, I've contacted them.
I'm fixing to fuck Lindsay'sWorld up with my band.
It's my turn.
I'm so fucking ready.
These guys are amazing Femalefronted.
They're from Taiwan.
Yes, I love female fronted.
This song is called I'll NeverLet Go and I will never let go
of Soulman.
You're going to fucking love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I'm excited you tell me you're a penis in your life.
Look me in the eye, releaseyour rage, fuck everyone who
lets you down, because I'm goingto blow your mind.
Shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Shut up Anger.
This is my universe no way.
Everything we share.
What's the issue?
Call the punches, spying, openreality and you see people
suffer and you see world on fire.
Chaos and criticism Everywhere.
People suffer and it feels likewe're on fire.
Chaos and criticism everywhere.
The anonymous gotta pray thatwe should Stop the cycle.

(01:10:35):
Colonize shapes.
What's the matter?
Life won't last forever.
Look at me in the eyes.

(01:11:16):
You better recognize.
Thank you.
Eternal fight, external chaos.
All you should realize.
I am the boss.
Take your place.
Destroy universe no way.
Every dimension.
What's the age?
I am the boss.
Your face is drawing universeglowing Every day.
We share what we get.
You're gonna find just spying onfake reality.
I'll let you see who I am.

(01:11:37):
I'll let you see who I got.
Look at me in the eyes.
You better recognize Burningfire in your sight.
Make me feel alive.
You should know that I wouldnever let it go.

(01:11:59):
Have you seen all the scars?
They've been torn apart.
Ignore least a fear Egos, greedand pride.
When we rise, we don't hideTill the stars are white.

(01:12:20):
Till the stars are white.

(01:13:14):
I guitar solo.
We need a place to belong.
Let our tribe fall.
No one will be left alone,ready to break the wall.
We all.
This time, our place will beknown.
We all, so let our dreams fall.

(01:13:37):
We all, no one would be leftalone.
We all Ready to break the wall.
Look at me in the eyes.

(01:14:00):
You'll never recognize the firein your sight.
Make me feel alive.
You should know that I wouldnever let it go.
And the same old scars.

(01:14:22):
They've been torn apart.
Ignore the list of feardisappear.
Egos freeze and fly, and werise.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
We don't hide till the stars align.
Lindsey, lindsey, holy shit,lindsey oh, that was amazing
what do you think?
Oh, my god, I love you guys Iwish there was a video of us
over here juking right now.
We were over here dancing, somuch, oh my God Soulman right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I love you guys.
And you said it was threefemale singers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I think it's a six piece.
Yeah, I think it's three.
Yeah, I'm looking at thepicture, those three females and
three males in the band andthey don't have a lot of
followers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
follow solman yeah, well, they're underscore tw yeah
, you have on instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
You have to look it up that way to find it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Yes, that's how I found them otherwise you have to
know.
I'm so glad that you had thatin the notes you have to know
some taiwanese yes, so femalefronteded metal band from Taiwan
.
Oh my God, like I that is myshit right there?
I aspire to this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yes, I aspire to being a female.
You back, I got to hit you back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Speaking of female, we need to look up the song that
just came out with Amy Lee,Courtney Laplante and Poppy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
We got to look that up and listen to that shit.
Oh my God, amy Lee and Courtneyare I've seen a little snippet
of it.
Amy's a little older than us,courtney's probably around our
age.
Our fucking music is inspiring.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I think Amy might be like two years older than us.
Not much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yeah, well, poppy's pretty young, yeah, she's young,
yeah, but pretty young.
Yeah, she's young, yeah, butshe's doing the damn thing like
she's following all thefootsteps of this metal.
This fucking army metallicajust took over a fucking serious
, and I hate it, though, becauseI used to love me some fucking
rock the bells and listen tofucking all the cool ass,
fucking rap music from all that.

(01:16:41):
They took away that station.
Oh, plugged in.
Fucking, yeah, they, they tookit, they took it away.
Lindsey, they took it, theytook it away.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Lindsay, they took it away.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Well, they might bring it back.
Yeah, hello, cool J.
He should forever have astation on his XM.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
But back to them, back to our band.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Yeah.
So yeah, the poppy Back to ourband.
Sorry, we got ADHD Anyhow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
If you haven't noticed by now, yeah, has has so
much to.
I was over here I had my eyesclosed and just enjoying every
second of that.
I mean, that's my element,that's what I like, that's my
your jam, my jam that that, thatsound.
It reminded me like I had, likeI was feeling like the hanabi
ginger the hanabi, um uh spiritbox, um uh butcher babies.
Like all I, I, like all.

(01:17:33):
They have conjured all thatsound and put it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
In what I've seen in the videos, there's two females
fronting it, another femaleplaying guitar, and then three
other males and drummer, anotherguitar bass player fog, they
kill it.
They kill it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Come, come to florida come to come to florida we want
to see you.
Yes, I want to see them I wantto see them, like we have some
of our bands that we've watchedupcoming in a small venue.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
First, that's where I love it too.
My drummer fucking hates it.
You know that I love what,chris krails?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
you are a curmudgeon ass bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
We love you, but you're a curmudge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Jesse and I love watching our up and coming bands
in small venues, to start out,because it's like it's like we
get a close personal connectionwith them.
We have now saw Beartooth insmall.
We have saw Ginger in a small,very small, yeah, and then, of

(01:18:32):
course, in another Ginger showwe discovered Hannaby.
And then we saw CourtneyLaPlante literally play right
after you did at Rockville likewhen Jesse played at Rockville.
I literally said I love you.
Bye, and I ran.
I packed up real quick and ranand I grabbed a drink and some

(01:18:54):
food, cause I was like I wasfamished and and I needed to get
a little buzz.
I ran to the stage to wherespirit box was going to play
their first performance atRockville and they got it two
years.
I was on the rail and it wasbeautiful.
I ate my jambalaya and drinkwhatever drink it was I bought.
I don't even fucking know, andI almost passed out once, cause

(01:19:18):
you know how I get with my bloodsugars low and yeah.
I almost passed out but I madeit through and I got to enjoy
Courtney theante on the rail atRockville in a November November
Rockville.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Oh God, it was beautiful, it was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
It was wonderful.
That was one of my favoriteRockvilles of all time.
Well, duh, mine too yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
I mean, you played yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
That was an exciting experience to be able to be
backstage behind my man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Yeah, and they were putting me at Slipknot stage and
I'm walked on Slipknot stage,I'm talking to managers and
people that put all their shittogether.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I'm like I don't think this is our stage, bro.
I'm not supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Why are we here?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
That was a stressful day We've talked about in
previous episodes.
Go back, listen to our backcatalog, but make sure you
follow so men.
Underscore tw on instagram andlisten to their music.
Follow us.
Drink about something that site.
Drink about something oninstagram lindsey stand by jesse
.
Stand by on facebook.
Drink about something.

(01:20:20):
Underscore lindsey on tiktok.
And we're gonna have more.
We're going to put out somemore content on there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
For our 50th.
I need to take the time andplay all these fucking bands all
together.
We're going to have a backporch party.
You're going to fucking comewith us.
We're going to have a full-onback porch party.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
I'm going to play all the bands that we played the
first season.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
This will be episode 48, so we only got two episodes.
The first season is just goingto be music.
We're going to do a podcast too, because you got to get your
shit out.
You got to fuck with me, butwe're going to play bands.
We're going to have a whole dayback porch party and we're
going to play bands.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
And that's right.
That's the weekend before weleave for New England.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
It is, it's coming, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Holy is coming.
It is holy shit, yeah, and theweather is cooling down.
We get to surprise y'all withthis cool ass place jesse has
found and booked for us to stayat, where we would literally be
covering true crime in a spotthat true crime happened.
Man, I'm excited in the bedroomof the woman the bedroom, the
master bathroom okay, I'm notreally I mean it's, it's the
bedroom, but whatever dude, Idon't know I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
I don't know.
I'm excited, but I'm excitedabout playing all these bands
too, and our first season'salmost over, so all of our
followers share to all of yourpeoples we're going to keep
building this.
We want to see it grow.
It's growing, it's actuallyexploding.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
If you love us, tell somebody else, because they
could love us too and we loveyou and we're gonna see you.
On wednesday we're gonna have alittle um special recap episode
on a documentary that jesse andI watched.
Fuck, and we gotta talk aboutit, yeah, and y'all y'all
watched it, we know.
So let's, we're gonna givey'all our opinion and our
bullshit, uh, rant abouteverything that we yeah, pretty
much see you wednesday andfriday yes, we're going to see
you Wednesday and Friday, andyou got a part two of this

(01:22:08):
coming up, which will be nextFriday.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
We're excited and we will see you guys then.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
We love you so much I had to take a gulp.
Bye.
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